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Bonus: Unpacking Trump's Victory w/Ruslan KD · The Lila Rose Show

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Hey, guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose Podcast.
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First episode since the historic election just a couple days ago.
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Congratulations to president-elect Donald Trump.
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Oh, my goodness. Lots of reactions, lots of
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celebrations happening right now.
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Lots of people expressing their worries and their concerns.
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There is so much to unpack and I'm very excited for this
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special episode, the special live because we've got our good
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friend Ruslan in the studio today.
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Hello. Thanks for joining, Ruslan.
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You guys know him from his channel.
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And we're going to be talking about, yeah, unpacking what just
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happened, a lot of the reaction stuff, what this means for the
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country. You voted for Trump for the
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first time this time, right? First time Trump voter.
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First time Republican voter. Wow, I've never voted.
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I didn't know that. Wow, that's huge.
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OK. What was it for you?
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I went down the rabbit hole of his long form conversations and
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I listened to him explain some of the controversies that he's
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had in the past, specifically aspects of racism, immigration,
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all of those things, and those were a lot of what was pushed
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in. 20/16/2020. He's the second coming of the
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mustache man. He hates these people.
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He hates those people. And I ended up watching him with
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Patrick, the David who's a friend of mine.
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And they talked about how he helped pass the biggest criminal
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justice reform ever, so much so to the point where Van Jones,
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who's a huge Trump critic in the middle of him tearing up on CNN,
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thanks him for passing criminal justice reform, which I was
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like, huh, interesting. I miss that.
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And then I, I kind of kept going down these different things and
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finding out like I didn't know. I don't, I remember that knew
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about opportunity zone. I knew about all these other
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aspects that that he did. Obviously, the electing the
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Supreme Court judges that overturned Roby Wade, which I
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think was good, but I think really hearing him humanize
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himself. And then I had a a very simple
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conversation with my son the day of the election.
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Were you were you undecided up until the day of the?
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Election, I was definitely not going to vote Harris.
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I was very vocal, like I am a Never Harris.
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Guy and on and largely abortion right was a big thing.
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Yeah, yeah. And she was the most zealous pro
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bort candidate. And it was, it was bad.
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And Tim Walz's views and dark stuff, very dark stuff.
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And I was like, OK, the alternative is absolutely a no
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go for me. Last time around, I voted third
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party the last two elections and I was like, we need another
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option. And then I was sitting here.
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And so I landed on Election Day. I came back from San Antonio,
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did a great event with pastor at Newton in San Antonio, did
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amazing event. And my family picked me up and
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we're driving. We stopped by Panera and my son
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goes, you know, they've been talking about, he's 9, They've
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been talking about the election in school.
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And I'm like, what are you guys doing talking about the
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election? And he goes, yeah, they're
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talking about it. And then me and my wife were
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talking and I'm like, and I explained it to him.
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And this is kind of when I had the epiphany, I said, yes,
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Donald Trump has said some nasty things.
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Yes, he has tweeted some things that aren't helpful and, and,
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and he's sometimes combative, but generally people feel like
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the economy and their day-to-day life was better during his time
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versus the Harris who says some good things and says she wants
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to bring a country together. But under the administration
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she's a part of, generally people feel like things are
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worse with things like housing, inflation and the real economic
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realities. And I didn't, I was going to
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unpack the abortion pill and I like all that.
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I was going to go into all of that with him, but then I said
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it. And so I was like, man, one
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person sometimes gets in their own way, sometimes say some
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silly things. I definitely disagree with him
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on a few policy issues in the way he's spoken about things,
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but generally speaking what he says and what he does are
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different and I think people who are supporters of his understand
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that. His second language, hyperbole.
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He's not on the nose with everything he's saying in the
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literal sense. At least that's what his last
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election was, right? He didn't persecute Hillary
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Clinton. He didn't write, did he?
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He wasn't the mustache man. He didn't do all these crazy
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things people were claiming he was going to do.
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That was that was honestly the biggest thing separate from
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obviously life and Kamala being so bad on life and wanting to
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keep Kamala out. So vote for Trump to keep Kamala
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out, which six? You know, it succeeded thanks be
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to God. But the other thing was all of
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the people that were threatening like he's going to be Hitler.
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I mean, there's so much intense fear and threats coming from
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mostly the left about what he would do if he was elected.
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And then also some Republicans like the Liz Cheney Republicans
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saying this guy is, you know, he's not in his right mind.
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He's going to create nuclear war, all of this stuff.
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And I didn't find that compelling because he looked up
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the four years that he was president, like you're saying.
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And it's like, there was no mustache, man.
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Like you just said how to use that term.
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There was no new, there were no new wars.
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And I, I mean, you can't help that.
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Like that's what happened. And when I would talk to some of
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these critics of his about not abortion, but about other
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things, and I'd ask about those four years, like they couldn't
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answer why everything was OK during those four years and
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there wasn't some catastrophe because, you know, they say
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Trump's in not in his right mind.
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So that was also, you know, gave me also peace when I was when I
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chose to vote for Trump because he was less pro abortion than
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Kamala and was more for religious conscience and and not
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just religious, but just conscience protections in
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general for people of conscience.
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I think that that was also huge. Yeah, and I just have to ask
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myself the question like the third party is isn't haven't
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made any noise. They're not really an option.
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I don't agree with them all the way either.
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And being in California, I was like, I want to set a precedent
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in California that like you're, you got, you're on, you're on
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borrowed time if you're in California, like you're on.
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And the California went in many ways more conservative this last
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election. I just saw a pastor friend of
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mine named Shane. He posted a map of like the 2020
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versus 2024. And it was way more red
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districts and stuff that happened that I was like, oh,
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like this. I wanted to send that message as
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well. And so I think a lot of what,
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you know, do I do I want someone that says the right things and
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says they're for unity and says they're for America and says
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they're for everybody, but their policies and their behaviors are
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in contrast with that. Or do I want somebody that is
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not a perfect person has done some really goofy things in
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terms of the stuff that's came out of his mouth.
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I wasn't a fan of January 6th. I'm not.
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I'm not sure about these tariffs he's presenting.
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Do you think he's actually going to do the tariffs?
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I don't I don't think so. I I really don't think so.
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I hope not. Yeah, I hope not either.
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And but All in all his election is good.
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And so I was talking to I had a friend of mine, Lisa Revere on
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who are you? She's amazing.
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She is amazing gala that I missed unfortunately that you
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guys live action put on and she said something and she was
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talking about her husband and he said both candidates are
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transgressors of God's law. One party is right now is are
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opposers of God's law. And I was like, that makes a lot
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of sense. So both both of these folks are
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are simple. They're they're transgression.
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There's aspects of their policies I don't agree with.
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More aggressively, certainly more like aggressively.
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I mean the Kamala Harris prosecute like you look at her
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whole history and we talked about this in the show so many
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times. So people were like we know
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Lila, we know Kamala Harris's background, but she was, you
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know, trying to throw David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt in
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jail, the pro-life investigators of planned parent in California.
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And then she tried to get the pro-life pregnancy centers to
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put up abortion ads. I mean she was in not just pro
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abortion, but anti anyone who spoke against abortion.
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So if you're pro-life, she's also anti you just as being
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pro-life. So not a lot of space for
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pro-life the. Freedoms towards, you know,
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people of faith, like specifically just being able to
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stand on the scriptures and the policies that could potentially
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impact us. Not that they were anything
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directly over, but like a lot of like we need to clean up the
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social media companies. We need to do the end.
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I'm like, oh this, this just sounds.
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Very sounds dark. Sounds very authoritarian, oddly
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enough, the stuff that they were they were talking about, yeah.
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And so I just kind of, I had to say, OK, well, we're not,
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there's no real third party option right now that I really
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even agree with. And there's no momentum there.
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And I'm in a blue state. I want to send a message to my
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state. And you know what, I could hold
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my nose and, and and say, I think right now he's the best V
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guy. And that's still feel parts of
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me are still like, I don't know, I don't feel good saying that.
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But I think when I consider all the things and I consider just
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how much he's humanized himself, I think he made ran a better
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campaign and I OK, I can live with this decision and let's
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see. And if he does just the border
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alone, if he does the border alone, which I think the catch
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and release in America versus catch and release in Mexico was
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a terrible policy, they just completely fumble.
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And I think if he. Meaning stopping that policy,
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reversing that executive order, Yeah.
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That's bad. Like that's, that was dumb.
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That was the worst thing that could have done.
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And I'm I'm someone that's an asylum seeker.
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I'm someone that's a refugee that came over here legally and
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have seen people come over illegally as well.
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And I think there's a tension we can hold where we can extend
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compassion to the people here that are trying to come, come
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over because their life is a danger and all that.
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I think that's that's a reality for some people.
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While at the same time saying we need order, we need order, we
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need laws, we need structures and we can't continue on in the
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way we've been continuing on. This is unsustainable,
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unsustainable. And that that that that's kind
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of where where I landed. I was like, this is this is not
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good. And I think the other thing, if
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he does, I think we'll instantly ease some of the tensions is
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opening up to fracking and opening up to oil production
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here. I think a lot of the climate
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alarmism, and I'm a, I'm AEV guy.
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I got, I, we, we own 2 Teslas. We got the Tesla batteries at
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the house. We got the solar panels.
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I don't go to the gas station. But I think a lot of this
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climate alarmism is dangerous. And I think that we need to be
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as self sustainable as we can as a country.
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And that I think instantly moves the needle to gas prices going
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down, which everything goes down because now you're not paying as
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much to transport stuff. And I think people would
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instantly feel a relief there if he pushes and, and kind of works
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on deregulating some of the oil production and being afraid to
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go to our reserves and all the goofy stuff that we've seen from
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the left. So yeah, I just, I just kind of
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like had to look at all those things and go, you know, I'm,
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I'm not sure about RFK on all this stuff.
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I'm not sure about Elon's intentions and all this stuff.
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I don't know, but man, goodness gracious, did Elon risk a lot,
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you know, as a, as someone that probably would have been highly
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persecuted after this election. And I had to come to that
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conclusion. I and I, and I'll be honest with
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you, Lila, I came, I had that conversation with my son and I
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said, who would I want to run the country?
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Someone that says the right things but did a job bad job or
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someone that says the wrong things but did a good job.
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It it really that simple? And then in that booth, I'm
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sitting there and I'm looking and I voted for everything else
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except president. I was sitting there.
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I voted for every single deal and I and then I come back to
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the to the to the top ballot issue and I'm like third party
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leave it blank, president. I'm gonna I'm gonna you did it
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check off Donald Trump and and your video kind of influenced me
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as well because I know you when you talked about withholding
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your vote on breaking points. Yeah.
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And I was like, I'm, I'm with Lila, like I.
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Think I was, I was, you know, this is the back story.
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I haven't really shared this on the podcast yet, but I was, you
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know, in the weeks leading up to Election Day working, you know,
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as best I knew how behind the scenes and, you know, on
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publicly to some degree, but certainly behind the scenes to
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say, can we get more concessions from the campaign on life?
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Because, you know, the whole whole idea of a campaign is get
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people to vote for you, you know, and like win the vote, win
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the vote, get people out to vote for you.
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And if pro lifers are like, yeah, whatever, we don't care
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about this, this, this, this, this will vote for you no matter
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what. Like where, where are we at?
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Right as the pro-life movement, we are nowhere.
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That's where we're at. And so, you know, I'm, I am, I
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am pleased that Trump did reverse course on Amendment 4 in
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Florida. And we won amendment.
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We defeated Amendment 4 in Florida.
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And by the way, for the record, I don't know if all the hard
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work that Ron DeSantis, Governor DeSantis put in into defeating
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Amendment 4, which would have legalized abortion up until
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until birth in Florida into their state constitution.
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If if President Trump had come out against Amendment 4 or
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sorry, come out for Amendment 4 or stayed silent and not said
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that he opposed it. I do think that would have
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influenced a lot of people in Florida like strong hardcore
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Trump supporters who might themselves have either not voted
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on it or voted yes. And we won only by I think it
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was a few 100,000 votes. It was not like, you know,
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millions of votes actually might have been tens, 10s of thousands
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of votes. It was like 3 percentage points.
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So I do think anyways, the, the, you can be loyal opposition and
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I think that's what you've been in a, in a good way, meaning
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I, I think some people and I and I say, and I say this to my
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friends on the right, when you are incapable of critiquing your
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own side, when you're incapable of saying anything you disagree
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with, I don't think that serves your side well and I don't think
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that serves the independent voter well.
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Exactly. Totally agree.
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And they're like, yeah, no, he could have done better on
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January 6th. It's like, no, shut up.
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Do you get in love? It's like, no, I think saying
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things that I, I disagreed with how he handled January 6th.
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I'm not saying it was a coup. By the way, it was your biggest
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thing because, I mean, besides contesting the election maybe
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too much in some people's view, was it also that he waited, what
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was it, 45 minutes for the first tweeter?
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He waited, too. Long he waited, too.
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Long he needed to come out early and be like hey let's defuse
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this. I think him flipping on Pence
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was not a good idea and the way he treated Pence after the fact
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was not cool I think. I think Pence is a good person.
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I know like some people are like Pence has been, especially on
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life, he's been very strong. Yeah, And I think the fact that
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all the judges that he elected in all those states were like,
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Nah, bro, you don't have a case yet.
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Now there's a different case to be made about the laptop
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suppression story and about ballot harvesting in the middle
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of a pandemic. That's a different conversation
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we could have on the legalities of that and technicalities that.
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But to claim that there's mass fraud and all the judges you
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elected said if. You just didn't have the
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evidence. The governor's court get
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elected, said. And then you're still not
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willing to concede. It's just not a good.
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And so again, it's a, you know, credit to, to Harris for
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conceding. I think she she should have
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conceded the the night of. But she took a She took a nap, A
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long nap. Yeah, she conceded.
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She said there's going to be a peaceful.
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Transfer of power, which again to his credit there was a
15:47
peaceful transfer of power in 2020, but him not concede, I
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just think some of that stuff was in poor taste and I think he
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could have did a better job with that.
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And so we'll see. And I liked his acceptance
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speech. I thought it was actually better
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than the 2016 acceptance speech. I think he drove home a lot of
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points of working with a coalition and working with
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people of all backgrounds, all ethnicities.
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And I believe he even in the acceptance speech, when people,
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correct me if I'm wrong here, even said we do want people to
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come over here. We just want them to come over
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here legally, right? And I was like, yeah, like,
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that's the message you do need to send folks that are from
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other parts of the world. We need to order.
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Like we need to order. We can't.
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We can't have what we've been having at the border.
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It's just not sustainable. And again, I'm not saying that
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there's this mass conspiracy about the left to flood swing
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States and, you know, and then to assume that the immigrants
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that are going to come over and get citizenship are all going to
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go and just bow lead. Wasn't it Hispanic men came out
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in record numbers for Trump? I want to.
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Say so even that. 40 of Hispanic men, Yeah, I want to say he won
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one out of four black men. I wish that. 20% he got I think
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the the number one of their size 25, was it 25%?
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Wow, I was shocked how many black men, black creative types,
16:53
people working in media, people working in movies, in in TV
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shows were texting me the morning of celebrating.
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And and I was like, I would have never thought you were going to
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vote for it. And they were.
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And they were just quiet. They didn't say anything.
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I'm talking people in some of the most influential people in
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my world all texting me the morning of like man, I'm so
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relieved and I'm so glad he. Won I think one of the other
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huge takeaways from all this, I was I saw some like threat
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Twitter thing on this or X thing on this, but I was like, that's
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such a good point. Well, there was a general
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conversation about the death of legacy media.
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Like this is really like the nail in the coffin because you
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have so much, so much fear, so many threats that legacy media
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is reporting. And then the pollsters saying
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that Kamala would win or that it we wouldn't know for days or
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weeks or whatever. Iowa, you had these crazy
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predictions that completely didn't bear out.
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And so, but they wouldn't seem crazy because they were all
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buttoned up. Your your official news man
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giving the prediction or pollster.
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And then at the end of the day, they're all wrong.
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And you know, I do. I do think if it weren't for
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social media, if it weren't for independent podcast media, I
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don't know if Trump would have won.
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I don't know if Republicans could win period because of
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that. I think he.
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His legacy media is owned by the left.
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It really is. And him being willing to sit
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down and go 3 hours with the Rogan go 2 hours.
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And then dance to do it, yeah. Advance to do it I.
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And Elon did it too, and he's like campaigning.
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Hard Yeah, Even seeing Ben Shapiro.
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Yeah. One of the things I I
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appreciated about Ben Shapiro was that he would do podcasts
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and he would be very sober about areas he disagreed with Trump
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on. And I don't see that on the
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left. Like, I don't see this.
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Like, yeah, I could disagree with this, this and this and
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this, but I right, I don't. It's like groupthink, 100%
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groupthink. And so I saw people that were
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willing to, to, to basically hold my views on tariffs, hold
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my views on January 6th, hold my views on even DACA.
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And I'm like, oh, OK. Like I see more of myself.
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And I really feel like the Overton window is shifted so far
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left that the left has just left the country behind.
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And I was a guy that's always kind of been like centered,
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centered right here, center left here, center right here.
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And I just feel like I've been pushed in the right all the way,
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like and. I'm like, well, it's a it's a
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great point because I do think you're right.
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It is going left, the Overton window on the left, but on on
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the right, it's kind of wobbling.
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Like it's like, which way will we go?
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Like Western man is the big question I have in Western
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woman. Like, are we going to go
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towards, you know, natural law and natural right?
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You know, this dignity of the person?
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Are we going to just kind of waffle or kind of some of us go
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left and then some of us just sort of wander through the
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wilderness? But I do, I am really hopeful
19:26
because I do think because of independent media, people like
19:28
Ben Shapiro, people like yourself out there who are
19:32
grounded in natural law thinking and right reason and good
19:34
philosophical foundations, we are seeing on the right some
19:38
real resurgence. And not just the right, but like
19:40
this independent space, like the Joe Rogan independent space
19:43
where there is this more, I guess appreciation for natural
19:47
ideas, even if there's not always right 100% of the time.
19:50
And again, that wouldn't be happening if it weren't for the
19:52
Internet and for podcast and social media.
19:56
What a time you'd be alive. Yeah, I'm hopeful.
19:58
I think it'll be something that continues hopefully.
20:01
I mean, listen personally, hopefully 2028, you and I on our
20:05
respective platforms are sitting down with the next presidential.
20:08
Sounds great, Bruce. Well, let's do it.
20:09
That would be awesome, right? I mean.
20:11
Who's that going to be in 2028? I mean, I think it's going to be
20:13
Vance. I think I think the best shot
20:15
the left has right now is Shapiro, who are massive fumble
20:20
on Harris's part to. To have walls and not Shapiro.
20:23
Yeah, and they're saying that was awesome, like, 'cause he's
20:25
Jewish and whatever, but I mean. Really in?
20:27
Pennsylvania and he's a popular. And it didn't deliver.
20:31
It didn't deliver. On her part.
20:34
And so, yeah, I think on the left it would be Shapiro.
20:36
Well, it felt very insincere too, to like being blasting
20:38
Trump and bands for being quote UN quote weird.
20:41
And then you have walls, which, you know, kind of
20:44
stereotypically pretty weird. And then he supports
20:47
transitioning little kids. And, you know, maybe he's nice
20:50
in real life. I don't know.
20:50
I've never met the guy but his policies were very weird.
20:54
Very weird. And then he said he got owned by
20:56
advance and I wasn't sure about Vance, but I saw Vance.
20:58
I'm like, man, I think like a Tosi.
21:00
I would have to see a Tosi Gabbard as VP, Vivek VP,
21:04
DeSantis VP. Maybe Vivek and DeSantis were
21:06
like no, Tulsi Gabbard great, great option, right?
21:09
Woman who served in the military, like has her own
21:12
independent platform, is a free thinker.
21:14
He picks Vance and I'm just like, I don't know about this
21:16
guy, right? I don't know about this guy.
21:17
And then I saw him in a debate. He's brilliant, he's really
21:20
sharp this. Dude is sharp.
21:23
He's even his appeal to the country on the issue of the
21:27
unborn and just goes, listen, we haven't done a good job of like
21:32
appealing to you guys on this issue.
21:33
My party can do better. I was like, man, he really did a
21:37
fantastic job and he held. That's funny because I was very
21:40
critical when you have that. Well, he was saying that his
21:43
friend got an abortion and now he understands why.
21:45
I mean, it sounds that in the debate, basically, yeah.
21:48
I mean, it sounded good, by the way, like his Polish.
21:50
I I would never criticize his Polish and his, like, persuasive
21:53
demeanor. He was talking about how his
21:55
friend before the debate was before the vice president during
21:58
the vice presidential debate. He was talking about how his
22:01
friend like texted him or called him the day before and said, you
22:05
know, it was he was sorry. He texted his friend who had had
22:08
an abortion when she was younger, and he basically said
22:11
I'm sorry. I understand why now.
22:13
Interesting. And I was just like, you didn't
22:16
to do that, you know, like it sounded good.
22:18
But he I I just think there were on life, there was ground that
22:22
they threw away that I don't think they could have won this
22:25
whole idea that they wouldn't have been able to won if they
22:27
weren't doing the things in life they did.
22:28
I just I don't agree with that. I don't I don't I see Pauline
22:31
gutter that doesn't tell me that like shows me tells me a base
22:34
that's very galvanized by people being hardcore pro-life.
22:37
Look at look at DeSantis. I mean, DeSantis won in a
22:41
landslide in Florida and he supports the heartbeat law,
22:44
which is even more than a 15. You know when the baby's hearts
22:47
detected at 7 or 8 weeks. So it's not like you can't win
22:50
in a swing state or a purple state by being hardcore
22:52
pro-life. I mean you can and DeSantis is
22:54
living proof of that. So anyways would.
22:55
Have been my guy that would have been the guy that if I had to
22:58
pick someone, I really like the Santas and I think you're right.
23:01
People were going were acting like women cared about this
23:06
issue more than they statistically cared about this
23:08
issue. It was an entire like focus that
23:11
Kamala campaign was you. You love abortion.
23:14
I'll give it to you as much as you want.
23:16
Like we actually didn't love abortion as much as you counted
23:19
on common. Maybe single women do.
23:21
Maybe single women want that. I don't know.
23:23
You know, it's hard to read the room on that sort of stuff.
23:27
So maybe single younger women do.
23:29
But clearly, I mean, I think I looked at like women was it, was
23:32
it 30 to 45 and like those demographics.
23:34
And I think he won over a lot of women.
23:36
He did, Did he? Was it?
23:37
Can you look this up? Pairs.
23:38
I don't know if you can say this, but I think he got 10%
23:41
more of Gen. Z women this year than he got in
23:45
2020. Yeah, Trump's.
23:46
That's crazy. So I don't know if that's the
23:48
correct number, but but what I'm trying to say is that Biden got,
23:52
I should say it this way, Biden got more Gen.
23:54
Z women than Kamala did Biden. Biden was super pro abortion,
23:58
but he wasn't talking about it in every speech.
24:00
In fact, in 2020, Biden was kind of not talking about it a lot of
24:03
the time because I think, you know, deep down he probably is
24:07
like uncomfortable with it. I don't know.
24:08
But Kamala likes is a true believer.
24:10
I'm a hardcore pro abort. And I just don't think that
24:12
presented well to even the Democrats.
24:14
A lot of them didn't go for that.
24:15
I'm just glad that like Pete, even when I was watching Crystal
24:18
Ball on breaking points, like she's like, I got it wrong.
24:22
I got it wrong I thought. Good for her for acknowledging
24:25
that this. This mattered more to women than
24:27
it does, you know, and I'm like, I feel like we've been trying to
24:30
tell you guys this, like I don't think women all want to out, you
24:33
know, I don't think so. I don't think that's the the
24:35
vibes. Like, I think the most women
24:38
from, I mean, almost all women I know are pro-life, you know, but
24:41
I'd say even the women that are like legal, safe and rare aren't
24:44
going to die on that. Hill well, and I honestly think
24:47
too like some of the loudest voices on the left who were like
24:49
clutching at abortion like this part of that too was the nature
24:54
of them also being so upset at President Trump now president,
24:58
you know, president-elect Trump for his past statements about
25:01
women you know all of the allegations about rape against
25:04
him like that whole picture for them was like their perfect
25:07
Handmaid's Tale picture, right. So I think that also made it
25:11
easier for this very loud but minority group on the left to
25:15
paint, you know, Trump as this villain da, da, da, right.
25:19
But that didn't really bear out in the votes because most women
25:22
are not like solely animated on the right to kill a baby as my
25:25
like dream voting issue. And then a lot of women are
25:28
pro-life too. And so you didn't really have
25:30
the, they didn't have the blue wave they were looking for.
25:32
Yeah, which which I'm glad. And now I I think when I go.
25:36
OK, cool. So now you got the Senate,
25:38
hopefully you can do some of the things that are going to benefit
25:42
people. Again, I think the border, I
25:44
think energy production, I think those are two simple things that
25:48
he can do right away. And then, but I also see this as
25:51
a, as an opportunity for people to faith Christians to say, OK,
25:55
now that this is where we are, maybe what we do is we continue
26:01
casting vision of our plan of how we believe the church is
26:05
mandated to care for the widow, the orphan, the, you know, those
26:10
that are going through it. And what, what, what plans do we
26:13
have to actually care for these? And so I kept telling people
26:16
like, Hey, it's not that we don't care about poor people.
26:19
We just don't think the government needs to do it right.
26:22
We actually believe that they let the get the government out
26:24
of our way and let the people who have burdens and let the
26:28
church step up and do that these sorts of things because that's
26:32
what scripture mandates us to do right now.
26:33
There's an order to that in first first Timothy chapter 5,
26:36
Paul talks about the widows and those who can remarry should
26:40
remarry. Those who can't remarry and have
26:42
families should go live with their families and those who
26:44
don't have families. That's who the church is
26:46
supposed to take care of. But the order is Hugh does not
26:49
provide for the needs of his household specifically his
26:51
immediate household is worse than a non believer in his
26:53
denied of faith. That's first Timothy 5 really
26:54
harsh verse from from the apostles.
26:56
So Paul and there's an order to that meaning us.
26:59
And now I got to take care of my family now then my then in them
27:04
meaning then I take care of my extended family, my local
27:09
community and I and then after that I go on to take care of
27:13
those who are connected to my local community, right.
27:16
And I think if we can cast that vision as followers of Jesus,
27:19
like, Hey, get your house in order first care for your family
27:22
family, then care for your, how about your mom and your
27:24
grandparents or you just shipping them off or you
27:26
actually caring for them. But we don't do enough casting
27:29
vision of like multi generational living.
27:32
My, my, my, my mother-in-law lives with, with me and my wife.
27:36
My, my, I take care of all my mom's bills, right.
27:38
And so I think like casting that sort of vision and saying, no,
27:41
no, we're not saying that. Like we don't want elderly
27:43
people and people with disabilities and people who are
27:46
poor to not be cared for. We just don't think the
27:49
government is an agent for good. Like that's what we don't see in
27:52
the scriptures. We see, I see two menates in
27:54
scriptures. 1 is in Romans 13. The government is to use the
27:56
sword to suppress evil, right? Order.
27:59
I see the government is here for order to punish the wrongdoer.
28:03
And then I see Jeremiah 22, which is don't oppress people
28:06
who are marginalized, right, Specifically the unborn, the
28:09
alien, those those specifics. So it's compassion and order.
28:13
And I think the left has hijacked the compassion and
28:15
said, oh, the government should do it.
28:17
And I go, yeah, compassion, but the government shouldn't do it.
28:20
Get out of the way and let the churches and folks like live
28:22
action and folks that are really on the ground care for people.
28:26
And, and, and those of us that have means can put our money
28:29
where our mouth is and fund the organizations in the nonprofits
28:32
and lookout for the person in our local community that may
28:34
need a job or the single mother that may need help on a rent or
28:37
may need to get groceries or whatever that thing is.
28:40
I think we don't do a clear enough job of saying those
28:43
things. And so then the left is allowed
28:45
to hijack it and then weaponize people's compassion and empathy
28:48
against them. And, and that's what I'm hoping
28:50
to also do is like, let's cast vision on these.
28:52
There's a lot of folks doing great work, like missing what?
28:54
The Christians don't care about single moms and, you know,
28:57
babies born in poverty. Like that's just not true.
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And there is public policy on the right that's very pro
30:24
family, pro child, pro mother and woman.
30:28
Like all the child tax credit stuff, you know, like make birth
30:31
free. I mean, there is just there, I
30:33
think there can be. I, I guess maybe, I don't know
30:36
if I'm a moderate on like the government's involvement in
30:39
social services to some degree. The government I think should
30:42
always be involved in social services.
30:44
I, I mean, maybe there could be an ideal world where there
30:46
wasn't involved at all. But it is an important
30:49
institution, but it has to be within reason.
30:51
It has to be done in an effective and smart way and
30:53
obviously not violate human rights by like supporting
30:55
abortion and transgender surgeries and stuff.
30:57
So you don't want it so powerful that it has all this crazy
30:59
control over everyday life. But to some degree, you know, a
31:02
community can say, hey, through the practice of subsidiarity,
31:05
this principle that says at this community level, we are going to
31:08
pay into this, you know, with this fund to support the people
31:13
that need the support. And that's how we want to run
31:16
our local government. I think that can that can work.
31:19
But what I love to see on the Republican side is, you know,
31:21
make America the friendliest place to, to raise a family, the
31:25
most welcoming place in the world to raise a family.
31:28
And one of the best ways that you can do that is families that
31:30
are having kids. I mean, you have three kids,
31:32
right? You have two kids, have families
31:34
who have children. They get, they get more tax
31:36
credits, they get more tax cuts or they get cash credits.
31:40
They get, or they get cash credits for even having kids.
31:43
And you look at, you know, a country like Hungary, they're
31:45
actually running plans where I think it's if you have 4 kids,
31:48
you, you don't get, have to pay any income tax.
31:51
And then if you I think it at your 5th kid, you get a free
31:53
minivan. I might be getting that part
31:55
wrong, but stuff like that. It's I mean, we have a declining
31:58
birth rate. People aren't having enough
31:59
kids. Harris, pull up the tweets, some
32:02
of the reaction tweets. There's there's some reaction
32:04
tweets right now, some very far left women saying we're never
32:06
going to, you know, have sex or date anymore.
32:09
I know like make abstinence great again.
32:13
Well, if you have sex, if you're going to, if you want to have an
32:15
abortion, yeah, that's that's the way to do.
32:17
It how about you only have sex with a man that you were married
32:20
to that will provide for you and that child.
32:22
Let's let's pull this up and so you guys can see it.
32:25
So this was there's a lot of this stuff on Twitter right now
32:28
on accent on Reddit especially. But ladies, we need to start
32:31
considering the the 4B movement like the women in South Korea
32:35
give America severely sharp birth rate decline.
32:38
By the way, there's already a severely sharp birth rate.
32:41
I know, I know, you know that. No marriage, no childbirth, no
32:44
dating men, no sex with men. We can't let these men have the
32:47
last laugh. We need to fight back.
32:49
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think no marriage and no childbirth is a
32:53
is a terrible, terrible idea. And I think if if people desire
32:57
to get married as you get married, but I'm all for the
32:59
last two. But if you no dating men, no.
33:01
Sex with men. But I will say, if you hate men
33:03
and you love abortion, you're not in the place to get married.
33:06
Yeah, so, you know, you have you have soul work to do.
33:09
You have soul work to do. And I mean, thankfully I don't
33:12
see this in most women, but I definitely see it in some.
33:14
Like we are literally there is a media agenda and certainly I
33:18
think an ideological like a like truly a demonic 1 to drive
33:22
enmity between men and women. I mean, that is Taylor's oldest
33:25
time. Like make them blame each other,
33:27
hate each other. And so you have this like modern
33:29
feminism that just hates and hates and hates on men.
33:32
And then they also collude that with, well, men are pro-life
33:35
now, I guess, according to these, you know, women posting
33:37
on. And so we're going to not be
33:39
with them at all because they're pro-life and they're also anti
33:42
woman. I mean, whatever the ideology
33:44
is, but where does it leave that whole group of women if they're
33:47
not, I mean, if you're not having sex with men and they're
33:50
not having abortions, thanks be to God, right?
33:53
So that's the that's the, the hidden silver lining.
33:57
In addition to saving lives of pro-life laws.
34:00
Let's not let's not have abortions.
34:03
Great. They got soul work to do.
34:04
I think that's a, that's a great way to articulate it.
34:06
And then I would, yeah, I would go, a guy probably wouldn't even
34:12
want to marry a woman that's staunchly pro-choice because men
34:17
don't have reproductive rights. So so you marry someone and,
34:21
and, or are in a serious relationship with someone and
34:23
they get pregnant and you're like, Oh my gosh, I always
34:25
wanted to be a dad. And she goes, oh, no, my career,
34:28
my education, my, this, my, that.
34:30
I'm going to go kill this baby. And I have no say say in that.
34:33
And there's videos, I mean, I think I've seen live action post
34:36
stuff of men, a young man outside the clinic sobbing and
34:42
tear and, and, and. Crying so sad because.
34:44
He wants to keep the baby. I raised the baby by myself.
34:47
Please don't do this. And so, yeah, so, so.
34:49
And the story's cut both ways. But those are especially gut
34:52
wrenching because the man truly has no say because the baby has
34:56
no status, no legal status. So like, if you're a woman, you
34:58
own that baby. You own the unborn baby.
35:01
If you're a woman today, how much of the.
35:03
You you're probably closer to this work on the ground than I
35:05
am. I'm discovering that so much of
35:08
the conversation of the unborn is just from sheer lack of
35:11
information. Yes, 100% that.
35:14
That's the entire live action mission.
35:16
Right, I posted the Time magazine stat that they just
35:19
confirmed 99% of abortions are out of elective.
35:26
So most people don't know that. And it's over 90% even are are
35:31
purely considered for convenience.
35:33
Even economic severe economic reasons are less than 10% even
35:38
severe economic reasons because because we have we have a lot of
35:42
social safety Nets in this country.
35:44
And the pro-life movement has huge infrastructure already to
35:47
try to help women if they're willing to be helped.
35:49
But if you like I was in, I was talking with Brenda Davies for
35:52
the the Goddess grey personality.
35:54
We're doing a debate conversation on abortion for
35:56
like 2 1/2 hours, but she kept saying that no one was there to
35:59
help her in LA, which is why she had her first abortion.
36:02
She was explaining and I said no one's there to help you.
36:04
Like I wish I had known you at that time.
36:06
I could have hooked you up, you know, I could have hooked you up
36:09
with free prenatal care. I could.
36:11
I know the clinic, I've been to the doctor.
36:12
I know you know he's amazing. I could have hooked you up with
36:15
all of the resources you need to like feed that baby, clothe that
36:18
baby, help shelter that baby. I could have hooked you up with
36:21
pre parents, parenting support, you name it, counseling,
36:25
whatever. We could have hooked you up.
36:27
The I mean, it's not going to say it's easy.
36:29
I'm not going to pretend like it's going to be like having a
36:31
child is not easy, especially if you are a single parent.
36:33
It is not easy, but you don't have to kill your baby.
36:36
You just don't have to do it. There's people that want to help
36:39
you. Yeah, yeah, so much of it again,
36:41
so much of it. I think it's just the
36:42
information gap and, and most people don't know what they
36:44
don't know. And so it's almost like when I
36:45
when I shared a video, I don't know if you saw my back and
36:48
forth with John Legend, but I did a video.
36:51
Tell me about it. Awesome.
36:53
We were reacting to John Legend on Shannon Sharpe and he said
36:57
women need this, women need this, my wife needed this
37:01
because that. Story drives me so.
37:03
Miscarried last 16 weeks and I stopped the camera and I said,
37:06
John, your wife tragically died. I mean, excuse me, your wife,
37:10
your baby died. Yeah, she needed a procedure
37:13
that is not the same as abortion.
37:14
We need to stop with the changing the language and and
37:16
then like. Yeah, they're not advocating for
37:17
abortion rights until birth because they had a miscarriage.
37:20
Yeah, I said that that's, you know, so so so I posted that
37:23
short clip and so he went in the comments and and tried to go
37:25
back and forth with. Me.
37:26
That means that there's something in his conscience, by
37:28
the way. Yeah.
37:29
Well, he was raised in the church.
37:30
He was raised in the church. You started off as a as a minor
37:32
director and did good for. You Rusan.
37:34
Good for we. Went we went back and forth and
37:37
I said, hey, tell you what, before we talk about the
37:39
exception for the 1%, can we just agree that 99% of these
37:42
elective procedures are wrong? Could you concede that point?
37:44
He wouldn't concede that point. And then he kind of landed and
37:47
people could go see this. It's all on my, I think I pinned
37:49
up his comment. He goes, you know, well, we're
37:52
at a moral stalemate because if I believe that was truly a baby
37:57
in there and then I would come to the same conclusion as you.
38:00
But I just don't believe that. I think a woman's right to her
38:03
bodily autonomy. Trump's whatever.
38:05
That is in there wild about that is they named the baby they
38:08
miscarried, I think Jack right and and they they like talked
38:11
about how they loved their son. So on the one it's such crazy
38:15
cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, he's saying
38:17
like if you could persuade me it was a baby, I'd be on your side.
38:19
And then on the other hand, like they delivered this baby.
38:23
She had this, you know, we, we're not sure exactly the
38:25
medical condition. I don't think he's shared it.
38:27
But, you know, apparently a miscarriage, they're calling it
38:30
an abortion, whatever. But they say this is our son,
38:33
this is our baby. How?
38:35
How can you hold both views? I don't know.
38:36
I don't think he can. And so I just said, Hey, you
38:39
know what, I appreciate you saying that if you believed what
38:42
I believed and you had the framework, you would come to the
38:43
same conclusion. And I said, and I was like, I
38:45
mean, that I'm not trying to troll you.
38:46
Like I think that's really mature of you to say, but I
38:49
think that you, you know, your, your position's incoherent
38:52
basically. And so anyway, that's all up.
38:54
And, and he, I was just, you know what, I was grateful that
38:58
he engaged without name calling that he engaged saying I'm
39:01
trying to harm women and all this sort of stuff.
39:04
And so it was interesting to see, to see him engage.
39:07
And I'm just kind of thinking like, what is John Legend doing?
39:09
Like scrolling through Instagram, going.
39:11
He's watching your show, obviously.
39:14
It's awesome. I.
39:15
Think this, this there. There is conversation and maybe
39:17
it is his conscience. Maybe there is something in
39:19
there? For sure when people will get in
39:21
your mentions. I mean, this is my opinion
39:23
anyways. I think there's conscience
39:24
happening there. Conscience or unresolved anger
39:28
that they're so emotional they have to go in your mentions.
39:31
That's my opinion. People who a lot of not a lot of
39:34
people, a handful of women, they're like, how dare you talk
39:36
about this as a man? And so I ended up just saying,
39:38
well, you know, my friend Lila does the frontline.
39:42
She's a woman. She told me to speak up about
39:44
this. I I sure did.
39:45
I'm gonna keep. Speaking up about it, I'm gonna
39:47
listen to my women friends who told me to speak up.
39:49
About I love it so you're. My, you're my lifeline.
39:51
Yeah, to be like, don't. You're crushing it too.
39:53
Thank you. Which is a.
39:54
Funny thing to be like like I can't a man can have an opinion
39:57
on women shouldn't be sexually assaulted unless I volunteer at
40:02
the women's shelter like like. It's such a bizarre point of
40:04
view. I can't have an opinion about
40:05
speed limit laws unless we're like what?
40:08
Are we talking about it makes no sense or like if a guy is about
40:11
to jump off a bridge because he's wants to commit suicide and
40:14
you try to stop him, how dare you try to stop him unless
40:17
you're going to pay his rent, unless you're going to get him
40:19
the health care he needs afterwards, unless you're going
40:21
to feed him and take care of him for the rest of his life.
40:23
I mean, that's the standard they tell pro lifers.
40:25
Like you're not allowed to say don't kill the baby unless you
40:27
personally take care of that baby.
40:29
Now, by the way, I think we actually should personally take
40:30
care of those babies and help in all the ways that we already are
40:33
in the movement and do more of that.
40:34
But yeah, it's it's not a video. It's not a good argument.
40:38
We have a video coming out that is us reacting to when they pass
40:43
no drink driving laws and no seat belt laws and the complete
40:48
meltdown people are. Having no wait, wait, when did
40:51
they? He's in the 80s, OK?
40:52
People saw guys like cracking over from the beer.
40:54
You mean to tell me I can't have a beer after?
40:56
A. But you found the commercials.
40:58
Yeah, we found them. Really interesting so we're.
41:01
Reacting to this stuff and we're like.
41:03
That's so interesting. American to tell me what I can't
41:06
do with my body and this whole and I just did.
41:08
They really say that. Yes, one lady said.
41:11
One lady is in the front seat and there's a baby in the front
41:13
seat with her. Not in a car seat.
41:15
Not in the car seat or or something.
41:16
And she goes this they going to make this.
41:19
We going to be a communist nation before it's over, right?
41:21
And so it's like we've been telling people what they can and
41:24
can't be with their bodies. That's the entire entire legal
41:28
system. News flash.
41:30
OK, what you're saying, I wanted to show get to this little thing
41:33
that another thing I saw in X recently.
41:35
But there's a lot of fear about the election.
41:39
So there's a lot of celebration like people are.
41:41
So there's a lot like you're saying in these texts from
41:42
people that maybe were moderates or didn't vote for Trump before,
41:44
and they're so excited that Trump has won and Kamala Harris
41:47
and the Democrats are defeated. But there's all these people
41:49
that are, you know, they call it liberal tears.
41:53
What is the term that they'll rightly uses?
41:54
Like maybe insensitively, but all of the people who are really
41:57
upset, right? So anyways, pull up this one,
42:00
Harris, the one from the guy about the grandmother.
42:04
So I, I am curious your take on this because it's connected to
42:06
what you just said. I am going somewhere with this
42:08
because this idea that there are laws that are scary and you look
42:14
at the line, you don't want to, you know, you're like scared of
42:16
this new law or you don't know what to do with it.
42:17
And then we look back, you know, 30 years later and you're like,
42:19
oh, this everyone wears a seat belt now, right?
42:21
But anyways, this was something that do you have the Jesse Kelly
42:24
1? So I'm going to show what he
42:26
said first because I think some of the reactions are to this.
42:29
So this was 1. So there's a bunch of people on
42:32
X right now. There's the women who are really
42:34
upset, not all of them. There's a few who are saying
42:37
we're not going to sleep with men anymore because of Trump
42:39
abortion bans. OK, sounds good, right?
42:41
That's a good idea. But then there's also this.
42:43
There's a bunch of people who are talking about, they're
42:45
being, they're afraid that they might be deported under Trump.
42:49
And this is an example of that's been going around a lot.
42:53
Jesse Kelly, I don't know if he ended up deleting this.
42:55
Actually. So Kelly left it.
42:56
Up. He left it up.
42:57
And deleted his tweet it looks like.
42:59
Because he didn't want people like Kelly.
43:01
There's not unclear. Mark Cuban had a pull up that
43:03
said, what would you do with this grandmother?
43:06
She came here illegally when she was young.
43:08
Now she's lived here 40 years. She's law abiding, all of this
43:10
stuff. And she has kids and she has
43:12
grandkids and she's never done a crime in her life.
43:15
And she pays taxes. Jesse Kelly responds to kicking
43:17
her door in the middle of the night, Put her in handcuffs and
43:19
send her and her kids back to where she was born.
43:21
Do it on camera as a warning to anyone who thinks they can
43:24
violate the sovereignty of any country without consequences.
43:27
Super harsh and dark. Yeah, and so you, that ain't it.
43:31
That ain't it. No, I think here's the thing, my
43:35
prediction of it's going to First of all, Obama deported way
43:37
more people than than Trump did under his administration.
43:40
So that's like just basic. No one knows that, no one knows
43:44
that. Second of all, how do you know
43:46
the numbers on that exactly? I don't know the numbers
43:47
exactly, but I know someone. More deportations under Obama
43:50
than Trump, but they just didn't make headline news.
43:52
I know someone's whose dad got deported under Obama.
43:58
Yeah. So I personally know somebody.
44:00
Yeah. So I think one, what are we
44:02
we're dealing with right now, there's an issue with the amount
44:07
of asylum seekers coming over because of the catch and release
44:10
in America versus catch and release in Mexico.
44:12
So 1, you got to stop the bleeding, and that's going to
44:14
require better border security. Probably, yeah.
44:18
Probably a wall which Harris is now all of a sudden in favor
44:22
for, which is interesting. It is wild to me that she was.
44:26
The borders are right and she went to the border only once and
44:29
that was when she was campaigning for president.
44:31
Is that? To be fair to her seat, her job
44:33
was to go and tell the countries where the migrants were coming
44:36
from to not come. That's what her job was
44:37
actually. So as borders are, we don't have
44:39
to go. To the border.
44:40
Yeah, she didn't have to go to the border, but she probably
44:41
should have went to the border. But that was what she was
44:43
supposed to be doing, was like, hey, tell the people over there
44:45
to not come over here. And she was like, don't come
44:46
over. Here, easy as that, right to say
44:48
sending a memo don't come. Yeah, I'm sure doesn't work
44:51
well. They got to stop the influx
44:54
right now like that needs to stop. 2 What's probably going to
44:58
happen? My guess would be the people who
45:00
came over and are are arrested and criminals are probably going
45:04
to get deported first. Like that's what's going to
45:06
happen. And then I think you have to
45:09
sort out with the people that came over here who have
45:12
legitimate asylum claims and, and, and go and actually get
45:15
them to come back to those court dates that you wrote them
45:17
tickets for and then start processing those people.
45:20
My opinion is I don't think the grandma who's been here for. 34
45:24
the last person very last, yeah. And even then it's like, I don't
45:30
know. I when they, they, if, if we
45:34
because of our failure to have a border and our failure to have a
45:37
system, someone has been here for 40 years and they are not
45:40
committing crimes and they've been paying taxes and they've
45:42
been raising American born children.
45:44
Is it really in the best interest of the United States to
45:47
deport that person? Even from that view?
45:49
I don't see how that you, you hurt social fabric, in my
45:52
opinion, if you do that and you hurt our economy if you do that.
45:55
So it's, it's actually a self-imposed wound to do the
45:58
deportations at that level, in my view.
46:01
So, but I understand the principle and I agree with the
46:03
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46:05
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47:26
thinking about legacy and he's thinking because he's not
47:29
running again, he's thinking about legacy.
47:31
He wants to be on Mount Rushmore.
47:32
He wants. To be 1.
47:33
Of the best. Presidents And so I think he at
47:36
the end of the day from, from again, my understanding of him
47:40
and the, the handful of people that I know that that know him,
47:43
he's at the end of the day, not a politician, he's not an
47:45
ideologue, he's a deal maker. So I think hopefully, preferably
47:50
he's going to navigate this conversation of, of migrants and
47:53
folks who are here delicately and not just like mass
47:56
deportation. Now, again, there will be some
47:58
deportation. The folks, the criminals, the
47:59
folks that are taking over apartment buildings, regardless
48:01
if it's one apartment building or all like how particular those
48:04
are, right? Because we want to get into the
48:05
minutiae of those. I think those are the people
48:07
that are going to go. I think all these folks that are
48:08
registered gang members, all the folks that have committed
48:11
crimes. And I can't.
48:11
I don't even hear people on on the left who can support like
48:14
not deporting people who are violent offenders or criminal
48:17
offenders here. I mean, maybe there's some, but
48:19
it seems pretty a unit unity position.
48:21
Progressive far left that like buy into this whole nation
48:24
states are bad. George have no prisons.
48:26
Free them all, yeah? I think those people may, but I
48:28
think those people are the fringe, fringe, fringe left.
48:30
I don't think most people are like, yeah, let's get more
48:32
people here. So again, I think as a follower
48:34
of Jesus, there's a tension I live in of when I come across
48:38
undocumented folks who came over here illegally, I could extend
48:41
compassion and resource and help them, right?
48:45
Like I've met several folks that came, oddly enough, that came
48:48
over illegally, Uber drivers. I've met the, the what some of
48:52
the folks that helped me move into my home that came over like
48:55
Kazakhstan or something, folks that came over because they fled
48:57
the war in Russia. They didn't want to, they didn't
48:58
want to fight for Putin. I know quite a few people like
49:01
that. And, and my heart to them is
49:03
goes, wow, that sucks. It sounds like you have a legit
49:05
case. Is there anything I could do to
49:07
help? You know, is anything is there
49:08
is there? Do you have a lawyer?
49:10
Like what is your process? What does that look like?
49:12
And so these are folks that are contributing, they're working,
49:14
They're not sitting on their hands.
49:16
And I think those people out of net positive to society.
49:18
I don't think that the person that's here is losing a job
49:22
because a guy comes over and wants to drive Uber or or move
49:25
people. And I think the reality is, yes,
49:26
there is racism in this country. There's always going to be
49:29
unfortunately, some racism. Like there will always
49:31
unfortunately be some willingness to kill, to rape, to
49:35
steal all of this because it's the human condition.
49:38
But this idea that these policies, like the Republican
49:41
policies are animated by racism, like that narrative, I think
49:44
deep down, most people don't actually believe that.
49:47
Maybe some people on the far left really believe that, But I
49:49
don't, I mean, not to say there aren't people who are Republican
49:52
who may be racist, right? It's not.
49:54
I'm not pretending that everyone is not racist because of
49:56
certainly racism exists still. And there's it's, you know, it's
50:00
a problem. Like people should check their
50:01
hearts all of this. But this idea that these
50:03
policies of a strong border, deporting criminals are born out
50:07
of racism, I just don't think there's true sincerity behind
50:09
that. I don't think that's true.
50:10
I'm with you. And I think even the definition
50:12
of racism changing to, you know, viewing another race as inferior
50:17
to a race to now power plus prejudice, right?
50:20
Like racism should be prejudice now it's power plus prejudice.
50:22
Or white people can be racist. Black people can be like, I
50:24
think all that is super goofy and I think the average person
50:26
is like. Yeah.
50:27
What this doesn't make any sense.
50:30
The the idea I asked somebody out this on on Instagram today,
50:33
someone was mad because I said a video.
50:34
I put out a video. I, I put out a note on Instagram
50:37
and put out a video said, hey, check on your liberal friends.
50:40
I wasn't being facetious. I genuinely met like check on
50:41
any liberal friends today. They're probably hurting.
50:43
And I did and I checked on my liberal friends and they were
50:45
saying some of the same things. And I was like, hey, like, you
50:48
know. Did they feel existential fear
50:49
your friends? Or was it more like, because
50:51
let's pull up the other tweet that we saw about the Kelly
50:54
thing, But were they like, yeah, how were they feeling?
50:57
Was it existential fear? Was your impression or was it
50:59
more just like, worry about what's going to happen?
51:02
Some people felt like they're they were disappointed by
51:07
evangelical Christians. I can't believe you guys elected
51:09
this guy right and. How could you?
51:11
Yeah, how could you and other folks?
51:14
I'm getting that. I mean, even people to me, I
51:16
mean, I get I get some heat from both sides, which is fine, you
51:20
know, as long as I'm feel my conscience and I think I'm doing
51:23
what's right. But there's people that are
51:25
saying like, how could you have voted for Trump?
51:27
Like he does support some abortions.
51:29
Yeah. And also look at these, you
51:30
know, rape allegations and look at all of these things.
51:33
And yeah, I mean, it is, it is a real concern that.
51:36
People have the allegations has been brought up and then other
51:38
people legitimately believe that we are entering, entering
51:42
fascism, you know, and hatred One like there's people that
51:46
believe that. And yeah, I think generally
51:48
speaking, the, the, the sentiment I'm getting is like,
51:50
man, how how could you vote for someone that has done XY and Z?
51:54
And then what I'm trying to do is say, hey, I understand.
51:56
Like I understand you're afraid. I understand this.
51:59
But let let me try to give you a little bit of macro perspective
52:02
of like what happened and how bad the Democrats did and how
52:05
unpopular they were and how unpopular the candidate was.
52:09
And then let's let's let's go and tease out some of these like
52:12
accusations of racism. OK?
52:13
Can you give me something specific?
52:15
He said? Well, he said Charlottesville.
52:16
Well, Charlottesville has been debunked numerous times, right?
52:18
Good people on both sides. I'm not talking about the white
52:21
supremacist, like that's been debunked.
52:23
Well, he is. So when you start getting into
52:25
the detail like which, OK, the Central Park 5, OK, fair enough.
52:28
Bad. That was dumb.
52:29
That was stupid. That was in the 80s.
52:32
What has he done? Didn't Hillary Clinton call them
52:34
super predators in the 90s? I think Biden is the one who
52:37
called him. Was that Biden?
52:38
I think Clinton did it too. Some wild stuff, too.
52:40
They've asked some wild stuff. So they're pointing us stuff
52:43
from the 80s at night. OK.
52:44
And I go, OK, wait a minute. What has he done recently?
52:46
Oh, he passed criminal justice reform.
52:48
Van Jones is on CNN crying, thanking Trump.
52:51
Van Jones, who's like. Trump did it, not Obama Is the
52:54
is the point. Yeah, yeah.
52:56
Trump did it. Yeah, and Obama could have done
52:58
it right, That's the thing. And so he worked with Democrats
53:02
and rules to pass mass criminal justice reform.
53:05
OK opportunity zones OK massive funding for HBC US.
53:10
Seems like if he's racist, he's sure not acting.
53:13
He's a bad racist. He's a bad racist.
53:14
He's failing at his racist. Right.
53:16
And so that's the part where I go, yeah, I, I don't know about
53:18
that. Now, again, then you can get
53:19
into the weeds of like, you start changing the definition of
53:22
what racism is, and it's this implicit bias and white people
53:24
don't even know they're. And then I go, OK, wait, wait,
53:25
wait, wait. Now we're talking about
53:27
something else. Like we're talking about this,
53:29
this, this virus that those folks, only people who aren't
53:32
black can catch this virus to be subconsciously angry towards
53:37
black people without knowing they're angry towards black
53:38
people. And participate in a system
53:42
that's complicit in it, though you can't point me to any
53:45
specific laws. That's that's a little
53:46
different, That's a little wonky.
53:48
And that's kind of what Matt Walsh explored on the whole am I
53:51
racist movie. And, and, you know, to scratch.
53:53
I think he did a fantastic job. I think the issue with that,
53:55
though, is that the that that world didn't start in a vacuum.
53:58
Like there were bad policies from slavery to Jim Crow to the
54:03
war on drugs that have disproportionately affected
54:06
black families. And I think it's OK to
54:07
acknowledge that The issue is some of those policies were
54:10
supported by black people when they happened.
54:11
And specifically the war on drugs, the tough on crime bills,
54:13
A lot of that was supported by the the, the Jesse Jacksons and
54:16
the Al Sharpton's. It's just that it ended up
54:19
hurting the black community, right?
54:20
And, and those are real things that happened.
54:22
You can get into the CIA being complicit and allowing cheap
54:26
cocaine to flood the streets to fund the war in Nicaragua and
54:30
the, the communism like, oh, that stuff is all real.
54:32
Like that stuff really happened. And that hugely disaffected
54:35
black people negatively. So we can't ignore that these
54:37
things happen. But they say today there are
54:40
laws that are harmful. That are on the books.
54:43
On the books, harmful I think. I think.
54:45
I think they're grasping for straws.
54:46
But we can talk about bad policies and and and what
54:49
corrections need to be made. Nixon and the leaked tapes of
54:52
him dropping the N word and LBJ being pretty overtly racist.
54:56
I mean, that whole ideology is basically, if there exists in
55:00
equity, there must be injustice, Yeah, Which is not, which is
55:02
not. And it's just not the case
55:03
because the reality is, I mean, who was I talking to recently on
55:06
the show? But they're sharing was that,
55:08
oh, Father Ambrose, he did a great little thing.
55:10
But we had Father Ambrose, Kristen, and I think you had him
55:12
on recently too, right? But he was just sharing how like
55:14
God created people differently and they might look unequal by
55:18
standard of how tall they are, how they're different kinds of
55:22
talents. You know, they're different
55:23
kinds of maybe earning power, like whatever.
55:26
Like there's these differences that happen, but that doesn't
55:29
mean that there's an injustice there in the difference.
55:32
So if. Anything, I think if we're
55:34
looking at that word justice, the word has been changed.
55:37
So the word justice means take stuff from one group of people,
55:40
give it to another group of people who are negative
55:42
redistribution. That's actually that
55:45
redistribution is actually injustice.
55:47
So you already have the job creators, the highest earners
55:51
doing the majority, not just of the taxes, the top 10% paying
55:54
in, I want to say 70 to 80% of all taxes.
55:58
But you also are saying those people didn't really earn it,
56:01
which is not true. 85% of millionaires are first
56:04
generation rich, 65% of billionaires, 1st generation
56:07
rich, meaning they did not inherit it, they did not win the
56:09
lottery. They work their way up to be in
56:11
these positions. And so you're take, you want to
56:13
take from one group to give to another group, even though that
56:16
group had nothing to do with this group not getting it.
56:18
That's injustice to me, right? But again, people aren't
56:22
thinking through these things because they think that like,
56:24
yeah, federal income taxes, progressive taxes has always
56:26
been a thing. And I'm like, no, it actually
56:28
hasn't. It's like 110 years old, 115
56:30
years old, 1910 ish is when we had the first federal taxes and
56:33
you got this crazy progressive tax rate.
56:35
And again, I'm not talk about the the tech billionaires who
56:38
are taking small salaries and taking loans against their
56:42
assets and finessing the system. I'm not talking about that.
56:44
That's different. Talk about the average person
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here. That's like, hey, not only do I
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pay the vast majority of taxes, but I actually give the vast
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majority the charity, right? I give the vast majority to to
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the church. I give the majority to to not
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you want to tax those. People are you?
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Are you at 10% like everyone? At least 10%.
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Yeah, well, they're not. And not in a I'm actually
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teaching about this to our young adults on Tuesday.
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Not in a legalistic sense, not in like a if you don't do this
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you're wrong sense, but in a hey.
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God will. I believe God is very God is
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more generous than we are. So when we do the 10% thing God
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does, God takes care of business.
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He takes care of business for you.
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I believe the radical generosity in my opinion, is more than 10%.
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So when we, when you factor in all of our giving to nonprofits,
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to missionaries, to our local church, we do 10% to our local
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church and then we try to give way and it's awesome that and
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then just helping family and helping people that we know that
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that need it. And so, yeah, it's, it's
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supernatural math that people don't understand that like,
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well, how does that make sense? But yeah, I believe that like,
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you should be giving 10% to your local church, not as like you're
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not a Christian if you don't give percent to your local
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church. But that's just a good
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principle. If you could figure out how to
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give 10 and live on 90 and even makes room to invest and to
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save, I think you'll be in a way better position.
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I think as a principle, it's a great, great, great principle.
57:58
So we're going to jump over to locals and we're going to talk
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about what we want Trump to do on day one in office and then do
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Q&A. So I haven't done this before.
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Guys. Come with me to locals, please.
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It's a link pinned up. It's link, OK, the links in the
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description. So thank you, everybody for
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joining. Hey California, thanks for
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coming on. You've got some fans on here,
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Ruslan, some nice words out here.
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Hey Victoria, thanks for joining.
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All right, we are going to be moving over to locals now for
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this special segment of the Live with Ruslan.
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We're going to talk about Trump's day one in office and
58:30
some other fun stuff. So go and join us at the link
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and that's a wrap.