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Rushion Interviews Star of the Netflix series, "Raising Dion," Alisha Wainwright on not growing up Hollywood. | Gaming and virtual / augmented reality gurus & industry leaders Hans & Harold Vancol brings coding to all! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. My guess is
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Speaker 1: Alicia Wainwright. A little background on her Haitian Jamaican received
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Speaker 1: their degree in botany at the University of Florida. She
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Speaker 1: also worked in Panama for the Smithsonian. Now she's an
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Speaker 1: actress who currently starts on their hit Netflix series Raising
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Speaker 1: d M, which is trending by the way season two
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Speaker 1: officially on Netflix. The hitting Netflix series is executive deduced
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Speaker 1: by Michael B. Jordan and Charles D. King Good Friend
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Speaker 1: of Mine, and it's based on the comic book series
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Speaker 1: of the same name, Raising d M. Raising little background
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Speaker 1: on the show, uh follows the story of Nicole play
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Speaker 1: by Alicia Waite Right and her son Dion Josiah Young.
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Speaker 1: After Dion starts to manifest several mysterious superhero like billites.
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Speaker 1: If you saw the first season, she was she was
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Speaker 1: tormented by that. You know, there's a lot of tears
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Speaker 1: flowed for her in that first season, a lot of crime.
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Speaker 1: Two years later, now after defeeding the Crooked Man, and
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Speaker 1: he's back. Jason Ritter is back, but we want to
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Speaker 1: be real in the details of how he's played out
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Speaker 1: in the second season. Season two follows Dion as he
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Speaker 1: continues honing his pals with the support of his mom
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Speaker 1: and a new potential love interest that'sn't introduced on the show.
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Speaker 1: But please welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class the
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Speaker 1: incredibly talented, by the way talented Alicia Ranway. How are
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Speaker 1: you doing, Alicia. I'm doing very well. Thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for that introduction. Well, you know, Alicia, I got
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Speaker 1: to see you. Um I saw you know in the
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Speaker 1: first season, and um, everything is about growth and everything
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Speaker 1: is bout natural. But last night, you know, I got
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Speaker 1: to see the finale last night, So it was just
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Speaker 1: so happened this weekie, and I was like, oh, it
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Speaker 1: popped on my radar to start watching, and that this
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Speaker 1: interview wasn't even scheduled yet and so I started watching
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Speaker 1: it and you are a natural. I don't know. You know,
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Speaker 1: I want to say a complimented because I want to
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Speaker 1: insult anybody out the acting. But there's some there's a
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Speaker 1: quality about your acting. There's really seems so that conversational.
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Speaker 1: Can we talk about that and talk about you know,
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Speaker 1: because you started over here in science and now you're
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Speaker 1: in acting. I started in math and now I'm in
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Speaker 1: it entertaining it. Talk about that journey a little bit
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Speaker 1: and also what did you hone your acting skills? Um? Wow,
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Speaker 1: thank you. I would say that I think one of
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Speaker 1: the benefits I have in my acting career is that
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Speaker 1: it's not my first career. I was able to live
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Speaker 1: a full life um with you know, travel and and
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Speaker 1: kind of immersing myself in the science world, and along
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Speaker 1: the way, I just learned a lot about life. I
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Speaker 1: learned a lot about myself. And you know, some of
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Speaker 1: my peers who were trained very classically in acting in theater,
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Speaker 1: they have a different set of skills that can maybe
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Speaker 1: give them a different range. But for me, the ability
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Speaker 1: to be like very natural and authentic is probably one
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Speaker 1: of my like I don't know, it's like the best
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Speaker 1: I have to offer. But yeah, I would say that
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Speaker 1: that having you know, a life outside of entertainment has
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Speaker 1: absolutely helped shape my skill set. Whereas a lot of
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Speaker 1: my peers they learn on the job. You know, their
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Speaker 1: life was was kind of the career that they made
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Speaker 1: for themselves, so they didn't get the chance to maybe
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Speaker 1: travel for pleasure or you know, have outside interests beyond
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Speaker 1: things that were completely focused on acting, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: So where did the acting training come from? For you? Okay,
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Speaker 1: we got that, We got the education universal Florida, says Botany,
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Speaker 1: the life experience in Panama. One of your places where
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Speaker 1: you was at the Smithsonian. Where did they acting start
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Speaker 1: to develop? Was high school college where, um so, I
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Speaker 1: took an acting class when I was in college. I
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Speaker 1: think it was called acting one oh one for non majors.
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Speaker 1: There was like, you know, it's pretty much you know,
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Speaker 1: it was an elective class that I took when the
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Speaker 1: teacher thought I was really bad, and like it was
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Speaker 1: just it didn't necessarily make me feel like this was
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Speaker 1: something I could ever take seriously. But it was my
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Speaker 1: first real attempt at like is this something that I like?
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Speaker 1: But I kind of got shot down UM. And then
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Speaker 1: later on when I ended up leaving UH the Smithsonian
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Speaker 1: and leaving kind of my work as a scientist and
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Speaker 1: moving on to actually wine, I thought I wanted to
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Speaker 1: be a winemaker, and so I was leaving in Snoma,
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Speaker 1: I met a couple of people who steered me towards
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Speaker 1: an acting class UH in San Francisco at the time,
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Speaker 1: and so I started taking classes there for UM beginners
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Speaker 1: and then quickly got a sense of the things that
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Speaker 1: were making me seem very green UM that I just
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Speaker 1: didn't know because I didn't have the education and acting UM.
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Speaker 1: But it was incredibly impactful to me, and it helped
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Speaker 1: give me a lot of the tools I use now
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Speaker 1: whenever I approach you know, my work when it's interesting,
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Speaker 1: because so because I was just trying to get to
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Speaker 1: the root of the acting. You know, because you took
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Speaker 1: that class. It was a disaster in college and then
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Speaker 1: you know, were we want you brought to venture into
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Speaker 1: wine making here and then somehow you take this acting
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Speaker 1: class in the San Francisco area. Was it always in
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Speaker 1: the back of your mind something there's a child that
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Speaker 1: you thought about doing? Because I was, I would tell you, like, personally,
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Speaker 1: I chose his career as a stand up comedian. But
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Speaker 1: I never thought about that all in my life. It
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Speaker 1: was just something. I went to college and it fell
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Speaker 1: into my life and I loved it, even though I
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Speaker 1: pursue I got the math degree, But after I worked
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Speaker 1: out IV a couple of years, I went, this is
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Speaker 1: not what I want to do from a creative standpoint,
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Speaker 1: I realized I was boxed in. It feels like creatively,
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Speaker 1: that's what was that what drove you to acting? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So when I was maybe five, I was in a
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Speaker 1: public grocery store and my woman had suggested to my
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Speaker 1: mom to maybe take some pictures and put me into
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Speaker 1: some kids modeling. Um, but she's a single mom, and
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Speaker 1: you know, carding your kid from Fort Laud Adults Miami
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Speaker 1: for auditions and stuff. She quickly learned that that's not
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Speaker 1: a kind of lifestyle she was interested in. So I
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Speaker 1: had the understanding and the taste of it very early on.
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Speaker 1: But then my mom was like, you know, it's a
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Speaker 1: better use of my money and time to put you
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Speaker 1: in karate and gymnastics and tennis and all of these things.
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Speaker 1: So I had a very well rounded up bringing that
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with a thing but I still
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Speaker 1: have that little nugget in the back of my head.
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Speaker 1: So as time we're on I kept, you know, looking
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Speaker 1: for someone to validate the curiosity I had. And every
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Speaker 1: time I would do that, people would be like, what
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Like your stick, stay in your lane.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I moved out to the Bay
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Speaker 1: Area that like, basically I had to pay money for
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Speaker 1: a class for someone to look at me and be like, no, wait, actually,
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Speaker 1: I think there's something there. And I just latched onto
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Speaker 1: that teacher's encouragement and my peers in the class their encouragement,
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Speaker 1: and I used that to kind of catapult myself forward.
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Speaker 1: When when did the light bulb go off for you?
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Speaker 1: As far as acting, I'm speaking right now to Alicia
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Speaker 1: White right, one of the stars of an incredibly popular
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Speaker 1: series of Netflix li Flix Skulls, Raising Dion. She plays
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Speaker 1: the mom to the character Dion. Is a very fun
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Speaker 1: take on raising the family. She's parenting. Uh continue, and
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Speaker 1: he was, who's now has superpowers? How do you handle
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Speaker 1: that as a parent? You know, when when you know
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Speaker 1: that kid can blow through a wall or a fly
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Speaker 1: around the room and all these different skills set that
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Speaker 1: this young boy has. So it's a really fun take
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Speaker 1: on that. But I want to say something about your mom.
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Speaker 1: She may not have taking you down between Fort lauder
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Speaker 1: Dale in Miami, but she did set you physically in
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Speaker 1: the right way, taking these karate classes, taking these tennis classes,
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Speaker 1: because you're really physical, especially in the second season. Talk
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Speaker 1: about that. I mean, so, the showrunner, Carol Barbie, and
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Speaker 1: I have such a great rapport and initially when the
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Speaker 1: show was first written, before I even became attached, the
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Speaker 1: character was a dancer, and for me, dance is not
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Speaker 1: the most accessible skill. I do think I have rhythm
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Speaker 1: and whatnot, but like you got to walk, now, you
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Speaker 1: got that walk, Now you got you, you got a
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Speaker 1: bowl walk about you. You know, like okay, okay, I
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Speaker 1: got I got earn that for the character, you know,
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Speaker 1: And like I I did what I could to use
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Speaker 1: the feeling that she's, you know, a dancer, but you know,
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Speaker 1: Nicole's character has been classically trained in modern dance for many,
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Speaker 1: many years, and that's just something you can't pick up
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Speaker 1: in in a couple of months. So the showrunner, who
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Speaker 1: absolutely felt for me and how hard I worked for
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Speaker 1: the dance, she knew that I had always been interested
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Speaker 1: in boxing and and uh, you know that sort of
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Speaker 1: aspect of like stunt work and stuff. So she was like,
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Speaker 1: this is a fantastic way to incorporate into Cold more
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Speaker 1: into the storyline because she can be a little bit
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Speaker 1: more defensive. And it made sense that if there's a
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Speaker 1: two week, two year hiatus between season one and season two,
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Speaker 1: Nicole would be doing everything she could to be the
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Speaker 1: best version of herself, and that includes taking self defense
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Speaker 1: classes and boxing classes and things like that. So it
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Speaker 1: kind of all kind of fell together. But yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: I've always been a pretty athletic person. I ran track
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Speaker 1: and in high school. I mean I run now, and
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Speaker 1: I picked up boxing later in life. But it's such
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Speaker 1: a fun tactile skill, and you know, if you're interested
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Speaker 1: in that action shows and stuff like that, you end
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Speaker 1: up carrying that with you from show to show. Well
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Speaker 1: it's fun because the reason I liked it the physicality
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Speaker 1: being introduced with you boxing and you know, because you
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Speaker 1: are going to fight. And I always, I always know, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what did you get that skill from? What? What did
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Speaker 1: that pop up from? What did that ability to fend
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Speaker 1: off people pop up from? But I see it when
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Speaker 1: you boy, when you're you, you're hitting the bag. You
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Speaker 1: know you you look like you're looking athletic. You don't
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Speaker 1: look like a weak mom or complaining mom because the
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Speaker 1: first season and no complaints. You know, you're very emotional
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Speaker 1: the first season. A lot of tears, A lot of
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Speaker 1: tears flow for you in the first season because he
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Speaker 1: was caught off guard by all these skills. You know,
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Speaker 1: the dad was out of this young man's life. What
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Speaker 1: do I do if it was like a classic character
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Speaker 1: of going a fish out of war. This is not
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Speaker 1: the life I expected. You know, my life has been
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Speaker 1: flipped upside down. That to me was the first season
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Speaker 1: and the second season it feels like you understand your life.
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Speaker 1: You're trying to still trying to take control of you,
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Speaker 1: like because you're still trying to be a parent to
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Speaker 1: this young budding superhero. But the physicality was brought in
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Speaker 1: because certain scenes required, and I felt it was authentic
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Speaker 1: your thoughts, well, thank you for saying that. And and
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Speaker 1: I think the showrunner, you know, season one was kind
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Speaker 1: of written as a character, and then over time I
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Speaker 1: infused myself into season one. Season two, I feel like
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Speaker 1: the show runner really wrote the show knowing like Alicia
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Speaker 1: Waynewright's sort of interests and skill set. So I think
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Speaker 1: you know, season one, she is very emotional, she's very
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Speaker 1: raw because she has a lot being piled onto her.
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Speaker 1: But then season two she has that confidence of a
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Speaker 1: having defeated something that was an incredible obstacle. And then
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Speaker 1: to her kid is living, he's thriving, and so she
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Speaker 1: she has a job, she has disposable income, like she's
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Speaker 1: able to provide for her kid in a way that
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Speaker 1: she wasn't even thinking she could do season one. So
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Speaker 1: you know, in those two years, she's taken so much
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Speaker 1: and made so much more out of it. And I
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Speaker 1: think when you know you have that drive and you
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Speaker 1: have that confidence, it's kind of the baseline for your
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Speaker 1: success in life. And I think you see that at
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Speaker 1: the beginning of season two. We'll be right back with
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Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's
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Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. JUSTI young,
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Speaker 1: the young man who plays the role of Dion. Talk
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Speaker 1: about him. I know this, He's not he's not part
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Speaker 1: of this any of people. He's part of this interview.
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Speaker 1: Your role in just communicating with him being a parent
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Speaker 1: being trying to keep structure unreal world, but also realizing
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Speaker 1: that romance is coming back into your life and dealing
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Speaker 1: with that as a person who wants to expand your
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Speaker 1: emotional life. But the primary emotion has always been your son.
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Speaker 1: Talking about your role Josi Young, well, I mean just
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Speaker 1: I they found him, you know, they did a huge
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Speaker 1: nationwide search for for this character and they found him,
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Speaker 1: and he was so raw and so fresh, and I
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Speaker 1: think as the years have gone on, it's been really
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Speaker 1: beautiful to see him grow and not only grow in
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Speaker 1: his skills, but grow in his confidence and in his
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Speaker 1: understanding of how the industry works. And you know, he
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Speaker 1: has a great support system and his family, and I
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Speaker 1: think working with child actors, it's really important to have
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Speaker 1: parents that are very hands on, you are very um
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Speaker 1: encouraging of their kid and creating as a space because
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Speaker 1: the industry is a lot, you know, especially now with
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Speaker 1: social media and like the things that these kids can
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Speaker 1: read on the Internet and the things that they can
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Speaker 1: learn about themselves from people that they don't know. I
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Speaker 1: think you have to have a really strong foundational like
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Speaker 1: boundary system set by the parents to make these kids
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Speaker 1: happy and healthy because it's a lot of exposure, especially
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Speaker 1: now with social media, but you know, being playing his
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Speaker 1: mom has been so much fun, and it's just it's
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Speaker 1: gotten I want to say, it's almost gotten easier over
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Speaker 1: the years because as he's gotten more comfortable and he's
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Speaker 1: just kind of dialed in, like his professionalism, it's just
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Speaker 1: flows very smoothly. That first season was a little hard
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Speaker 1: because it's almost like you're teaching him, so he's learning
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Speaker 1: and then he's also performing. So the weight on his
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Speaker 1: shoulders was just insane. It's an it's an insane expectation
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Speaker 1: to put on one child for six months who has
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Speaker 1: never done this before, and so we try to approach
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Speaker 1: him with like joy and grace and the best we could.
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Speaker 1: But like, I know it was really hard for him,
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Speaker 1: and I know it was really hard for his family
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Speaker 1: to like watch him have that weight on his shoulders.
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Speaker 1: But the season too, he just he just absorbed it.
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Speaker 1: And it's just such a little man now, and it's
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Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of crazy to see because it's
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Speaker 1: like who are you? You know, like when I met you,
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Speaker 1: you didn't know some of the most basic things, and
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Speaker 1: like here you are like just kind of nailing it.
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Speaker 1: And he's really honed in his skills, and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I'm really proud of him, and I'm proud of the
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Speaker 1: show that we make because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: like it's his his real life, you know, and he's
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Speaker 1: growing and he's learning and he's creating the core of
16:48
Speaker 1: who he is now. And that's kind of what I
16:51
Speaker 1: always you know, people are always like it's you know,
16:53
Speaker 1: never work with kids, never work with animals. But like
16:56
Speaker 1: I do think, like when you work with kids, now, okay,
17:00
Speaker 1: I work with but like when you work with kids,
17:04
Speaker 1: you really have to remember like they're little people, and
17:09
Speaker 1: the things you do and say around set, they're going
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Speaker 1: to care with them for a long time and it's
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Speaker 1: going to shape the way to think about the industry,
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Speaker 1: the way they think about themselves. So as best as
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Speaker 1: I could, I tried to like, you know, participate in
17:22
Speaker 1: an environment where he was happy and could thrive and
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Speaker 1: do really good work. So I I do hope that
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Speaker 1: that translates on screen, But it does, you know, outside
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Speaker 1: of work, he's just a sweekend. Well, it does because
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Speaker 1: your relationship, you know, at the beginning of the interview,
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Speaker 1: I was just talking about how talented you are. As
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Speaker 1: far as the little nuances, especially in your relationship and
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Speaker 1: parenting him, I really believe there is a there is
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Speaker 1: a mom's son parent or relationship there that's played out
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Speaker 1: because you have your face. You make little gestures in
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Speaker 1: your face, with your eyes, with your lips, with your nose.
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Speaker 1: Is you know. I'm not saying you're you know you're
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Speaker 1: twinkling your notes like you make somebody disappear. I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying that you play more into the reality of what's
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Speaker 1: more than what's written. And that is so special. And
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Speaker 1: I always say when I'm watching television, I'm watching a
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Speaker 1: movie and somebody's making me smile because they've stepped beyond
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Speaker 1: the pages and they're entertaining me. You do that so
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Speaker 1: well and and and I do see you being the
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Speaker 1: next ten years state of course you already start. And
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Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be able to see this happen
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Speaker 1: over the last thirty years and just to see it
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Speaker 1: on this screen one episode after the next episode. That's
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Speaker 1: the one thing about Benja Benjace allows you to just
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Speaker 1: really chart the person's progress through the series, how they
18:41
Speaker 1: develop characters, and you do such an amazing job those nuances.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'm not the only one that's telling
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Speaker 1: you this. When people talk about your future in this business,
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Speaker 1: Alicia ain't right. What are your thoughts? Wow? Dan, I mean,
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Speaker 1: thank you for saying that. I think that's so generous.
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Speaker 1: What a generous thing to say. I would say, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, putting your head down and doing the work
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Speaker 1: and not um doing your best to not let the
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Speaker 1: nose um make you feel like your dreams are not possible.
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Speaker 1: I think as you climb up the ladder of roles
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Speaker 1: and projects and things like that, it never gets easier,
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Speaker 1: and there's always something higher than what you're doing. And
19:34
Speaker 1: I think I've learned that this feeling will always be
19:38
Speaker 1: there in in in my industry. And so if you
19:41
Speaker 1: don't stop and appreciate what's happening to you right now,
19:46
Speaker 1: your entire life will constantly be looking for the next
19:50
Speaker 1: rung of the ladder. And I try very hard to
19:57
Speaker 1: approach each day like it could go away and this
20:02
Speaker 1: could be the best it could ever get. So that
20:05
Speaker 1: being said, how do you make your time on set
20:08
Speaker 1: the most pleasurable? How do you form these connections because
20:12
Speaker 1: you might never see these people again. Maybe the show
20:14
Speaker 1: doesn't get renewed. Like. That's kind of how I approached
20:17
Speaker 1: my work because I have seen careers evan flow and
20:22
Speaker 1: if you can't just roll with it but continue to
20:25
Speaker 1: do your best work, UM, you could find yourself reflecting
20:29
Speaker 1: on your life and your career and feel like, you know,
20:32
Speaker 1: I didn't really enjoy it. And I do feel like
20:36
Speaker 1: you know, I've had ups and downs in my career,
20:39
Speaker 1: but I ultimately am very passionate about what I do,
20:42
Speaker 1: and I enjoy what I do. UM, And I think
20:45
Speaker 1: if you keep doing that, you're successful. It's just inherent.
20:49
Speaker 1: And so of course I have big, lofty dreams for myself,
20:54
Speaker 1: but I can look at myself right now and feel
20:57
Speaker 1: very satisfied. Well, I'm very satisfied that you are a star.
21:01
Speaker 1: I'm very satisfied and say that and tell that to
21:03
Speaker 1: anybody who speaks uh this. You know, the second sceneson
21:06
Speaker 1: of Netflix of Raising don only magnifies what I'm saying,
21:09
Speaker 1: because the opportunities and we're gonna get past this pandemic
21:12
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just see one or two, one or
21:14
Speaker 1: two movies and releases in your name just gonna be
21:16
Speaker 1: all over the deadline and variety. I see that. But
21:19
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about a couple of more
21:21
Speaker 1: characters in Raising Dion too. Uh. It's the second season
21:24
Speaker 1: I called it is that Rome Flynn. He plays your
21:27
Speaker 1: love in she was Tevin and then you then your
21:30
Speaker 1: older sister just camps herself into your life player by
21:33
Speaker 1: playing you know, she's so funny becuse I'm a big
21:35
Speaker 1: fan of her from Bawlers and when she walked through
21:37
Speaker 1: that that my girl from Ballers and uh, and so
21:41
Speaker 1: talk about their relationship because it's in't a jarbable series,
21:44
Speaker 1: Like I said, every episode would like that for me.
21:47
Speaker 1: And I got to the finale, I was thoroughly satisfied,
21:50
Speaker 1: and it sets up for another great third season coming up.
21:53
Speaker 1: They they've already set it up, y'all. When this episode
21:56
Speaker 1: then you know it's the third season and the characters
22:00
Speaker 1: easy powerful. So talk about the other two co stars.
22:04
Speaker 1: So Rome came on very late. We almost weren't sure
22:09
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to get him because he
22:12
Speaker 1: was on a show that kept getting delayed for COVID uh,
22:17
Speaker 1: and so we weren't sure it was going to work
22:18
Speaker 1: out that the last minute it did, So I actually
22:20
Speaker 1: didn't meet him for the first time until we were
22:23
Speaker 1: on set, and he immediately in real life took to
22:29
Speaker 1: Josiah and made it his priority to be almost like
22:37
Speaker 1: a real life best friend mentor to him. And so
22:41
Speaker 1: that I think so easily made him fit into not
22:46
Speaker 1: only the shows like outside experience with the cast, but
22:50
Speaker 1: also what you see on screen, because Nicole appreciates Tevin
22:56
Speaker 1: because of what he offers Dion and how much he
23:00
Speaker 1: is about Dion. And I think, like it would it
23:02
Speaker 1: just warmed my heart to see how much Rome really
23:04
Speaker 1: took to Josiah and like made it his priority to
23:08
Speaker 1: like spend time with him and play with him and
23:13
Speaker 1: be his friend. So Rome is a solid one for
23:15
Speaker 1: that and like really took that on and I think
23:17
Speaker 1: it translates on screen. And I mean, Jasmine, Jasmine Simon,
23:21
Speaker 1: she is what's what we do on set, is how
23:25
Speaker 1: we are outside of set. She's always she's not She's
23:29
Speaker 1: like a couple of years older than me, but she
23:31
Speaker 1: just has always treated me like a big sister with
23:35
Speaker 1: that big sister energy and is like giving me a
23:37
Speaker 1: hard time all the time. And I think that you know,
23:40
Speaker 1: she's teasing me in this way that only a sister
23:42
Speaker 1: ken And it just really comes on screen so perfectly
23:46
Speaker 1: for how we are in real life. And I think,
23:49
Speaker 1: I think what's what's fun about that is is it
23:52
Speaker 1: feels very authentic. And we used to the showrunner would
23:55
Speaker 1: joke that, like she wants to make a mini series
23:58
Speaker 1: of just you know Nicole and and her sister Key
24:02
Speaker 1: King on the couch because we do get a lot
24:07
Speaker 1: of pleasure out of those scenes. Well, it's it's it's amazing,
24:09
Speaker 1: Like I said. The Raising Dion is season two on Netflix.
24:13
Speaker 1: To noteworthy executive producers on this series names you maybe
24:17
Speaker 1: you may know Michael B. Jordan and the incredible producer, Uh,
24:22
Speaker 1: this amazing African American guy, black guy, Charles D. King.
24:26
Speaker 1: How he's just flipped the scrip on Hollywood and bringing
24:29
Speaker 1: tremendous black content to the screen, one of the leaders
24:33
Speaker 1: in bringing black content the screen. And he's doing a
24:36
Speaker 1: big time. But he needs talent to do a big
24:39
Speaker 1: time and he's found the brilliant young actress. Because she's
24:43
Speaker 1: young and because she says a lot of years in
24:45
Speaker 1: front of Alicia Wainewright, she's hey, she's you're making She
24:48
Speaker 1: had a degree in botani the University of Florida. She
24:51
Speaker 1: worked in Panamoa to Smithsonian. Now she is a star
24:54
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. I want to thank you for coming on
24:56
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Alicia. I appreciate you so much.
25:01
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25:03
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25:22
Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald from Money Making Conversations with your daily
25:25
Speaker 1: Minute of Inspiration. This week, I sat down with restaurant tour,
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club Marcus Davis. Well discussed the importance of
25:35
Speaker 1: trusting your vision even when it isn't clear to anyone
25:38
Speaker 1: but you. I wanted to be uh synonymous with the city.
25:42
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an ambassador reflection of my city,
25:44
Speaker 1: and I wanted the concept to be just as diverse.
25:48
Speaker 1: I would go into the bank rug business plan and UH,
25:52
Speaker 1: they would ask who is your target audience? And they
25:55
Speaker 1: would try and drill me down or no, you gotta
25:57
Speaker 1: idemnify target demographic. And I insisted that I didn't, that
26:02
Speaker 1: I wanted to do something different. I wanted the city
26:06
Speaker 1: of Houston to be reflected in the Breakfast Club. If
26:09
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26:11
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Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Welcome
26:20
Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. I am your host, Rashaan McDonald.
26:24
Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have different definitions of success.
26:27
Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.
26:29
Speaker 1: Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals and live
26:32
Speaker 1: their very best life. It's time to stop reading other
26:35
Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. People always
26:38
Speaker 1: talk about gifts and passions and purposes. If you have
26:42
Speaker 1: a gift, leave with your gift and don't let your friends, family,
26:45
Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dream.
26:48
Speaker 1: In the world that it's concreasingly dependent on technology, STEM
26:52
Speaker 1: education is very important for the future of our kids
26:55
Speaker 1: and future jobs. And they have basic knowledge of the
26:58
Speaker 1: computer programming that's put forth to us everyday via your
27:01
Speaker 1: phone tech related skills. Brothers Harold and Hans van Cole
27:06
Speaker 1: that's a great name, can talk organically about the experience
27:09
Speaker 1: of getting involved with the Limitless initiative and the KRPR
27:13
Speaker 1: robot simulative project they're helping to spearhead. The organic extra
27:18
Speaker 1: of how they were introduced to the Limitless and why
27:20
Speaker 1: they got involved with the project is pretty inspiring. Harold
27:24
Speaker 1: and Hans Vancle are founders of their consulting company HV Unlimited,
27:28
Speaker 1: where they work to help companies get into the gaming space.
27:32
Speaker 1: They also leaders a GRAB Games and gaming company that
27:35
Speaker 1: creates entertainment and the vr R, a R enabled platforms
27:39
Speaker 1: games in the virtual reality all algumented reality space. Harold's
27:43
Speaker 1: VP creative a VP creative at Grab Games, and Hans
27:48
Speaker 1: is CEO a GRAB Games. Please welcome to Money Main conversation.
27:51
Speaker 1: For the very first time, they might be I might,
27:53
Speaker 1: I might be robotic today I finished with these guys.
27:56
Speaker 1: Harold le fella, all right, thanks for having us. I'm
28:02
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of USC grads and the heart
28:04
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles that I got a new football coach.
28:06
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. You know, we're not gonna
28:08
Speaker 1: get too far with that, but I just gotta acknowledged
28:10
Speaker 1: that football maybe back on the campus of the Universe,
28:14
Speaker 1: so we were there during the glory years, so I
28:21
Speaker 1: know that's right. Well, you know, so you remember when uh,
28:23
Speaker 1: when uh, just speaking off the cup of the U
28:26
Speaker 1: T game, the well, the greatest football game I've seen
28:29
Speaker 1: in college football game, Yeah, that that was. That was
28:33
Speaker 1: a brilliant game. This is a brilliant, brilliant football game.
28:37
Speaker 1: If you're a fan of college football, it's a game
28:39
Speaker 1: you always will remember. But but you guys, uh, when
28:42
Speaker 1: I see your name Harold and Hans and just the
28:44
Speaker 1: Hans van Cole, it sounds so European. I'm sure you've
28:48
Speaker 1: gotten that a lot time, fellas. Yeah, definitely. Always always
28:51
Speaker 1: get asked like, oh are you German? Or how did
28:54
Speaker 1: you get that name? And they're always they always get
28:57
Speaker 1: disappointed when I just tell him, yeah, they my parents
28:59
Speaker 1: saw it in the baby book and they like that. So, Harold,
29:02
Speaker 1: how did you get your name? Then? What baby book
29:04
Speaker 1: they saw your name? Ma'm I'm assuming it's the same thing.
29:09
Speaker 1: But you know, my name doesn't draw as many reactions. So,
29:15
Speaker 1: but but what does draw reaction is the fact that
29:18
Speaker 1: you guys are in the you know, we hear the
29:20
Speaker 1: word STEM being thrown out a lot to STEM say
29:23
Speaker 1: the the America is falling backwards, uh behind in the
29:28
Speaker 1: STEM educational platforms, and especially when you minorities are people
29:32
Speaker 1: of color, the STAM education platform almost becomes non existence.
29:37
Speaker 1: And then we had the pandemic jump all over us
29:40
Speaker 1: and turn into virtual living, which means that you have
29:43
Speaker 1: to have some clear understanding of computer or how to
29:47
Speaker 1: use your phone for your child to be educating. And
29:49
Speaker 1: we all know that the footprint for Internet is not
29:52
Speaker 1: always available for people of color. So when I say
29:55
Speaker 1: those harold those things. What saddens you the most about
29:58
Speaker 1: what has happened to the minority community the last two
30:01
Speaker 1: years with the pandemic tied to education? I mean, that's
30:07
Speaker 1: a that's a big question. I think, you know, there's
30:11
Speaker 1: already a bit of a divide um in terms of
30:17
Speaker 1: educational opportunities and kind of what kids have access to. Um.
30:24
Speaker 1: You know, when when I first showed up in high school, uh,
30:28
Speaker 1: I was I was meeting all these people. It was
30:31
Speaker 1: the first time that I really gotten exposed to a
30:34
Speaker 1: lot of people outside of my immedia area. Uh. And
30:38
Speaker 1: you know they're starting in uh Spanish too, and you know,
30:43
Speaker 1: advanced algebra and all these things. And I'm like, man,
30:47
Speaker 1: you guys had those classes at your school and you
30:51
Speaker 1: know they had music classes and different languages and uh
30:55
Speaker 1: you know, computer courses and all that stuff. And you
30:58
Speaker 1: know it starts so early that those diverging paths, you know,
31:03
Speaker 1: UM and seeing that there's just different opportunities at different
31:10
Speaker 1: schools UM can really set people way ahead or start people,
31:17
Speaker 1: you know, behind the starting blocks. And so when you
31:21
Speaker 1: look at that as a as a basis, um it
31:25
Speaker 1: only the pandemic only made it worse. Uh. You know,
31:29
Speaker 1: it's you have these situations where you know, like I
31:35
Speaker 1: think some like eight of kids you know at or
31:39
Speaker 1: below the poverty line, you know, couldn't even regularly attend
31:45
Speaker 1: there their remote classes because you know, there's situations at
31:50
Speaker 1: home and different things going on. And you know, the
31:54
Speaker 1: school was a place where one you knew where your
31:58
Speaker 1: kids were gonna be and two you had people really
32:01
Speaker 1: guiding what it was that they were doing. And so
32:06
Speaker 1: you know, the pandemic just kind of widened that because
32:09
Speaker 1: now you're bringing in you know what like you mentioned,
32:13
Speaker 1: what internet do they have access to. What hardware do
32:16
Speaker 1: they have access to? Um and so you start to
32:18
Speaker 1: see a lot of programs start to come up to
32:20
Speaker 1: try to get hardware into the hands of kids, try
32:23
Speaker 1: to give families, you know, better internet access, cheaper internet access,
32:31
Speaker 1: because unfortunately, you know, economic uh you know factors really
32:38
Speaker 1: play into the barriers that that kids have for education,
32:44
Speaker 1: and you know, we don't think that should be the case.
32:47
Speaker 1: Uh So the pandemic just kind of widened a gap
32:51
Speaker 1: that kind of already existed. At the gap when you
32:54
Speaker 1: talk about it, Haggs, when you start talking about the
32:57
Speaker 1: are which is virtual reality and augment the reality, you know,
33:02
Speaker 1: that's if you if you're not if you're not even
33:04
Speaker 1: on the plane of two plus two's four equal four,
33:07
Speaker 1: then this the distance is more amazing because what you're
33:11
Speaker 1: talking about is what we're seeing basically in the Marvel movies.
33:15
Speaker 1: You know, it's that bringing out that life, you know,
33:17
Speaker 1: walking into a store and you see a dinosaur standing
33:20
Speaker 1: over you. Because I was fortunately or with a contract
33:22
Speaker 1: I had with their National Guard to get into the argument.
33:25
Speaker 1: And it's really as a three D world that really exists,
33:28
Speaker 1: and I know there's some type of programming now where
33:31
Speaker 1: I was working with this guy he was in London
33:33
Speaker 1: and then on my cell phone. You know, I was
33:37
Speaker 1: able to appear like he was on my front step
33:39
Speaker 1: with me talking. That's how advanced this program and he's
33:42
Speaker 1: getting it's almost getting to a version of teleporting somebody.
33:45
Speaker 1: It's almost like I teleported him from London to my
33:49
Speaker 1: front step and on my phone he was sitting right
33:51
Speaker 1: next to me on my on the sofa on my
33:54
Speaker 1: front step. So how can we catch up? Are are we?
33:57
Speaker 1: Are we fighting a game that we won't catch up with?
33:59
Speaker 1: Harm um? I think I think it all starts at
34:04
Speaker 1: really establishing the the knowledge set from a core level
34:10
Speaker 1: with with the kids that are coming up and the
34:13
Speaker 1: people that are in high school and and going to college.
34:17
Speaker 1: I think the the main, the main piece with all
34:21
Speaker 1: of this this technology that's that's uh, you know, blowing
34:25
Speaker 1: us away daily is at its core, it's it's a
34:30
Speaker 1: programming language or or some some set of rules that
34:34
Speaker 1: apply across across these different technology areas. So I think
34:40
Speaker 1: more and more people need to understand the how critical
34:44
Speaker 1: it is to learn the skills because technology is not
34:48
Speaker 1: going away um as as we as we know, UM
34:52
Speaker 1: everybody is very dependent on on their phone, and the
34:58
Speaker 1: phone does many any many things for us makes our
35:01
Speaker 1: lives a lot easier. Um, but that's all technology drive. Well,
35:06
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, I'm just I'm you know,
35:09
Speaker 1: I'm old school. I go back to the four train
35:12
Speaker 1: in the past gal programming days, you know, you know,
35:16
Speaker 1: I'm like a dinosaur when I was back there programming
35:18
Speaker 1: versus what they're doing. When you look at augmented reality programming,
35:23
Speaker 1: what what has blown you away the most about that?
35:25
Speaker 1: What have you seen at that you can tell my
35:28
Speaker 1: people are watching this or people who are listening to
35:30
Speaker 1: this about the future of augmented and why that is
35:34
Speaker 1: so powerful? Well, I mean just just in the name itself,
35:39
Speaker 1: it's it's it's something that's meant to improve your already
35:43
Speaker 1: existing reality. Right. So, um, just there's there's a lot
35:47
Speaker 1: of different projects that that we've worked on, um, A
35:50
Speaker 1: lot of which haven't been released or that we can't
35:53
Speaker 1: talk about in details. Oh really we have one of
35:56
Speaker 1: the conversations there we can't talk about. Can you talk?
36:01
Speaker 1: Can you talk? Because I'll give I'll give a little something,
36:06
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but you know, so one of
36:09
Speaker 1: one of the projects that we've that we've worked on
36:12
Speaker 1: was with the NBA, where um just being able to
36:17
Speaker 1: improve that NBA viewing experience. And one of the things
36:21
Speaker 1: that that augmented reality presents is the ability to deal
36:25
Speaker 1: with alumetric data. So what you were referring to earlier
36:29
Speaker 1: about having a meeting with somebody in London that seemingly
36:34
Speaker 1: was right next to you, you know, that's that's a
36:37
Speaker 1: that's that was most likely a volumetric capture. But imagine
36:41
Speaker 1: being able to do that with a tennis match or
36:46
Speaker 1: an NBA game where on your tabletop you can see
36:49
Speaker 1: the entire court of a of a Lakers game and
36:53
Speaker 1: all the players are doing their highlights and everything right
36:56
Speaker 1: in front of you, and it's it's a completely different
36:59
Speaker 1: view we experience. You shook your head. You still was
37:05
Speaker 1: like an ah, You're like, yeah, yeah, I still hadn't
37:07
Speaker 1: figured that out yet, but I'm working with Yeah. Sometimes
37:11
Speaker 1: you forget, like we I mean, we've done so much stuff.
37:13
Speaker 1: It's you know, sometimes you forget some what some of
37:16
Speaker 1: your favorite projects were and how it's going to evolve
37:20
Speaker 1: h the game. Like if you can imagine a team
37:23
Speaker 1: watching film and they got to sit in the room
37:26
Speaker 1: and watch the film, but you know, why not walk
37:29
Speaker 1: onto a court and you know you size up the
37:32
Speaker 1: data and instead of watching the play, you can relive
37:36
Speaker 1: the play. Again. Let's step through what each person saw
37:39
Speaker 1: from their perspective, because a lot of the times people
37:42
Speaker 1: are you know, making calls from the stands or from
37:44
Speaker 1: the bench, but they don't see what the players see. Um.
37:48
Speaker 1: And you can go through frame by frame from that
37:50
Speaker 1: player's perspective and just stand there and watch how the
37:54
Speaker 1: play is developed. Me. You know that could kind of
37:56
Speaker 1: change the game. But um, when you start to see
38:00
Speaker 1: you know, we all know how big sports are um.
38:03
Speaker 1: And and you know leagues like the NBA or some
38:06
Speaker 1: of the most forward thinking uh in the world. But
38:11
Speaker 1: you know there's always people behind the scenes bringing this
38:14
Speaker 1: technology for it. Uh. And so you know, like Hans
38:19
Speaker 1: was saying, it all starts with exposure. UM, who's going
38:23
Speaker 1: to be leading that charge? Uh? And like you said,
38:26
Speaker 1: like you were talking about for a trand and dealing
38:28
Speaker 1: with those languages, and we were doing C and C
38:31
Speaker 1: plus plus and you know, react and all this new stuff. UM.
38:37
Speaker 1: But you know we had to learn it in our
38:39
Speaker 1: later years. You know, imagine what it would be like
38:42
Speaker 1: if a kid grows up with it, right, right, it's
38:45
Speaker 1: no different than when when kids started to grow up
38:49
Speaker 1: with basketball. And now we're having these generational talents that
38:53
Speaker 1: developed the skill over time. You know, the same thing
38:57
Speaker 1: can happen with programming and learning these languages because you know,
39:03
Speaker 1: when when these kids were taught the game, nobody expected
39:08
Speaker 1: them to evolve the game. They were the way they did. Uh.
39:11
Speaker 1: And when kids grow up with this coding and they
39:14
Speaker 1: start to bring their flavor to it, um, you know,
39:18
Speaker 1: like like we do. Um. You know, that's what's gonna
39:22
Speaker 1: be exciting and that's what's really gonna drive the technology forward. Um.
39:28
Speaker 1: And also you know, elevate our involvement in it because
39:34
Speaker 1: we consume it and you know, but we're not creating
39:37
Speaker 1: it as much as we should be, right. You know.
39:40
Speaker 1: Really interesting. You know when I early in my college life,
39:43
Speaker 1: you know, I was really in the computer science and
39:46
Speaker 1: you know, eventually got my degree in mathematics. Um. When
39:50
Speaker 1: the physics had something to do with that, I just
39:52
Speaker 1: couldn't get past physics, guys. Physics was like physical physics.
39:59
Speaker 1: I could not get to that. You know, the train
40:01
Speaker 1: leaves at one o'clock and the other train leaves north
40:06
Speaker 1: at two o'clock, what time they are around? I could
40:08
Speaker 1: never get that exact arrival time, so so I would
40:13
Speaker 1: limit publicly. I got one fl on my transcript with physics.
40:19
Speaker 1: Then I realized, you know, some get out of that.
40:25
Speaker 1: You know math, I went through three. I went through
40:27
Speaker 1: Calculus one, two and three without a book, so I
40:29
Speaker 1: knew math. I was over there fiddling around with somebody
40:32
Speaker 1: shouldn't would be fiddling around with. But one thing I
40:34
Speaker 1: did enjoy about computer science was that it was like
40:38
Speaker 1: birth in life because you you're taking an idea and
40:42
Speaker 1: you can you can animate it, you can redirect it,
40:44
Speaker 1: you can you can create with it. That was the
40:47
Speaker 1: most enjoyable part of that. You know. The thing about
40:50
Speaker 1: it when I look at young kids, you know, they
40:52
Speaker 1: look at entertainers, they see dollars, they see big houses.
40:55
Speaker 1: I look at you know, they look at athletes. They
40:57
Speaker 1: see dollars, they big big houses. They don't see the
40:59
Speaker 1: injuries to the athletes. Are the athletes who don't make
41:01
Speaker 1: it to the dollars in the big houses. So when
41:04
Speaker 1: I went to SO, I have to ask this question,
41:06
Speaker 1: is that money to be made? And what you guys
41:08
Speaker 1: are doing very much so. Absolutely. UM. I think it's
41:13
Speaker 1: one of those things where UM we call it quiet
41:18
Speaker 1: money a lot of the times because it's it when
41:21
Speaker 1: you're when we're going to meetings and we're meeting people
41:24
Speaker 1: that are behind the scenes at a Facebook or um
41:28
Speaker 1: a Google. Like those people aren't as forward facing as
41:33
Speaker 1: athletes and entertainers, but those are the people that are
41:39
Speaker 1: that are enabling the athletes and entertainers to kind of
41:43
Speaker 1: put themselves out there. Like one of the one of
41:46
Speaker 1: the biggest revelations that UM we would try to tell
41:49
Speaker 1: people is just like, hey, UM, have you ever heard
41:53
Speaker 1: of a company UM called AWST, Amazon Web Service and more.
42:00
Speaker 1: I think just recently they started doing commercials for the
42:03
Speaker 1: first time. For the longest time, people that aren't in
42:07
Speaker 1: tech didn't really know what they were. But those guys
42:11
Speaker 1: basically control what is it here about sixty or of
42:15
Speaker 1: all the websites that that control the control Okay, it's
42:20
Speaker 1: definitely up there as well as my email blast okay, okay, yeah,
42:26
Speaker 1: but like he said, those are the people behind the scenes, right, Like, um,
42:32
Speaker 1: you know, there's no no knock on sports and uh entertainment.
42:37
Speaker 1: But I had a teacher in high school used to
42:39
Speaker 1: always tell us more people get struck by lightning every
42:44
Speaker 1: year than make it to the NBA, right, and so
42:47
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about you know, point one zero zero
42:52
Speaker 1: one percent of everyone who plays basketball can make it
42:56
Speaker 1: to that pinnacle level. I don't really like that compared
43:00
Speaker 1: to I don't want to get struck by lightning, you know,
43:02
Speaker 1: I don't want to be you know, that's a painful
43:06
Speaker 1: way to realize you can't accomplish. But what you can
43:10
Speaker 1: always say, like I've never known anyone that got struck
43:14
Speaker 1: by lightning, and that kind of puts it in perspective like, um,
43:18
Speaker 1: you don't even know someone who knows somebody who's gotten
43:20
Speaker 1: struck by so um. But a lot of the times
43:26
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's fed to uh, to our communities
43:31
Speaker 1: because that's what they see, you know, it's it's part
43:34
Speaker 1: of the it's part of the persona of an entertainer
43:38
Speaker 1: or an athlete. Um to show that stuff, it's part
43:42
Speaker 1: of the character. It's part of you know, what they
43:44
Speaker 1: have to sell, you know, and that's all cool. I mean,
43:48
Speaker 1: I have a crazy sneaker collection. I love this stuff.
43:50
Speaker 1: There's artistry. And if there's all this stuff and people
43:53
Speaker 1: kind of bring their style to it. But um, you know,
43:57
Speaker 1: the biggest, the most outwardly facing tech person that we
44:01
Speaker 1: have right now is probably Elon Musk because he sort
44:06
Speaker 1: of understands and smoke openly smoke weak, right, and it's
44:11
Speaker 1: but but what people, what we're trying to push is,
44:16
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people in tech that
44:19
Speaker 1: make great money. Like you know when you look at
44:23
Speaker 1: the owners of most of these teams and a lot
44:25
Speaker 1: of them made money in the dot com Q Yeah,
44:30
Speaker 1: like own Cisco and Google and like all these different teams,
44:34
Speaker 1: like people's favorite teams, favorite players play for teams at
44:38
Speaker 1: these people own um. And then you look at the
44:41
Speaker 1: Forbes list every year who's the most richest people's you know,
44:45
Speaker 1: telecom people old money. But there's a lot of people
44:48
Speaker 1: in there that are our new money, new tech money. Um.
44:54
Speaker 1: And so there's there's a lot of pieces to that pie.
45:02
Speaker 1: And all it takes is uh, like like you said, exposure. Um.
45:07
Speaker 1: But you know, we we understand who we were kids once. Um.
45:10
Speaker 1: You know, we're watching Michael Jordan's on TV and we're
45:13
Speaker 1: watching the shoes anywhere and we want the shoes. Um.
45:17
Speaker 1: So you know there's something to be said about how
45:21
Speaker 1: it's presented. Um, when we were growing up, it's like,
45:24
Speaker 1: oh the nerds with the coding and the computers and
45:27
Speaker 1: all that. Uh, it's not so much that way anymore now, um,
45:32
Speaker 1: but you know there's something to be said about that presentation.
45:36
Speaker 1: So so Harry, how could that change that? How could
45:37
Speaker 1: I could make y'all cool man? How cannot make y'all
45:40
Speaker 1: you know, the life of the party all y'all life
45:43
Speaker 1: of the part. I just don't see it, Hadds. Yeah,
45:46
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that that piece. It's
45:49
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of that is happening. But you
45:53
Speaker 1: know that people don't know what they do, and I
45:57
Speaker 1: think I think a lot of what Harold and I
45:59
Speaker 1: are trying to do is to at least get get
46:03
Speaker 1: more exposure to to this space, especially to two kids
46:08
Speaker 1: at a young age, so they so they grow up
46:10
Speaker 1: with it instead of trying to learn it in college
46:14
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, I have an app idea, but I
46:15
Speaker 1: have no way of building it. Let me let me
46:17
Speaker 1: try to take classes to to be able to do stuff.
46:20
Speaker 1: Understanding it at a base level, just like we understand
46:23
Speaker 1: English at a base level is what we what we
46:26
Speaker 1: need to have, especially for for our community, because no,
46:31
Speaker 1: we we we clearly drive a lot of a lot
46:34
Speaker 1: of progress on the on the pop culture stage, just
46:37
Speaker 1: in in society in general, and just being able to
46:40
Speaker 1: further establish ourselves in an area that we don't have
46:43
Speaker 1: to go outside of the community to get stuff done.
46:46
Speaker 1: That would just make make things kyrocket even more. We'll
46:49
Speaker 1: be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with
46:53
Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass
47:01
Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. Well, you know, it's really really are
47:04
Speaker 1: very serious I talked about because marketing and Brandon is
47:07
Speaker 1: what I do. Both of you guys are good looking guys.
47:09
Speaker 1: I could actually interview guys individually because you're both were
47:12
Speaker 1: very articulate, very got something to say. As they say,
47:16
Speaker 1: you know, y'all, not one more answer, guys, you know,
47:18
Speaker 1: especially Harold, he lived to talk. Erica talk that he
47:21
Speaker 1: might like he might drift off a little bit, but
47:23
Speaker 1: Harold can talk, okay, y'all, and uh but you know
47:27
Speaker 1: so so when I look at y'all, you know we
47:29
Speaker 1: have Venus and Serena Williams. You know they were two
47:32
Speaker 1: megastars and tennis and they're leaning on to each other
47:35
Speaker 1: for success. They have somebody to turn to in a
47:38
Speaker 1: very world that stereotype black people. You know, they went
47:42
Speaker 1: into environments that said, Okay, you here, but we're only
47:45
Speaker 1: accepting you because of your talents as an athlete. And
47:49
Speaker 1: you guys are walking into an environment that's very stereotype driven,
47:53
Speaker 1: you know, and some people people are really say you're
47:55
Speaker 1: not supposed to be there, or if you're there, they
47:57
Speaker 1: don't expect you to be able to deliver the good God,
48:00
Speaker 1: how do you deal with that? And is it because
48:03
Speaker 1: is there a success? A lot of your success tied
48:05
Speaker 1: of the fact that you are siblings? Well, I mean
48:09
Speaker 1: the so the first thing I'll say is the one
48:13
Speaker 1: thing that I like about this field. It's a lot
48:16
Speaker 1: of it is merit based, Right can you do it
48:19
Speaker 1: or can you not do it? And if you can
48:22
Speaker 1: do it, and a team will accept you with open
48:26
Speaker 1: arms because you're able to solve a problem that they
48:28
Speaker 1: need solved. Right. So Um, that's that's what kind of
48:33
Speaker 1: driven a lot of Harold and eyes Um work ethic
48:36
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, let's let's figure out how to
48:38
Speaker 1: learn this stuff because we can just walk in and
48:42
Speaker 1: instantly contribute and and we'll be we'll get the respect
48:46
Speaker 1: that we need. Yeah. And and also you know, but
48:52
Speaker 1: I heard Harold and how though you know what I'm saying,
48:54
Speaker 1: that's something that's sibling, that ability to reach back and
48:58
Speaker 1: look at somebody who had your act or be able
49:01
Speaker 1: to communicate. Do you see what I see? Do you
49:02
Speaker 1: know what they're talking and being able to turn to
49:05
Speaker 1: somebody that can go, hey man, let's go, let's go
49:07
Speaker 1: get this straight. Let's show them what we can do.
49:10
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, you know what I'm
49:11
Speaker 1: saying because I heard him say, Harold and I and
49:13
Speaker 1: that's why I was just talking about Venus Serenia, and
49:16
Speaker 1: Venus and Serena had each other's back when people told
49:19
Speaker 1: them they couldn't do it. And you know, I know
49:20
Speaker 1: you say the word married bass. They were, they were
49:24
Speaker 1: number one and two in the world. They in fact,
49:26
Speaker 1: reached the finals of Grand Slam, all four ground slams
49:30
Speaker 1: in one year. They weren't final and they were saying
49:32
Speaker 1: that they are going to ruin tenants because they are
49:34
Speaker 1: too dominant. So every people, everybody always has an excuse
49:38
Speaker 1: and so and I'm not saying there's no excuse in there.
49:40
Speaker 1: But what always frustrates me is that you know, when
49:43
Speaker 1: you're a minority, the rules change. You know, the rules
49:48
Speaker 1: started sliding, and the acceptability and the credibility and your
49:52
Speaker 1: accomplishments can be watered down. That's what annoys me. And
49:56
Speaker 1: so when I when I had an opportunity to interview
49:58
Speaker 1: you guys, I I jumped at it because you're the You're,
50:01
Speaker 1: You're the future stars, You're you, You're, You're the space
50:04
Speaker 1: at that, You're the you. You know you You're out
50:07
Speaker 1: today's hidden figures that need to be moved to the
50:10
Speaker 1: front of the line. Because when you were talking to
50:11
Speaker 1: because I have been fortunate to see a version and
50:15
Speaker 1: live a version of the last three years of what
50:16
Speaker 1: you guys are doing, and I'm stunned. I was actually
50:20
Speaker 1: stunned when this guy was sitting next to me on
50:23
Speaker 1: my phone, next to me on my front porch, and
50:27
Speaker 1: I knew he was in London, and so a lot
50:29
Speaker 1: of people can't wrap their head around there. Harold, how
50:32
Speaker 1: does that work for you guys being siblings? Uh, well,
50:36
Speaker 1: you know it's funny that you bring up being since
50:39
Speaker 1: Serena and then you know that that movie King Richard
50:42
Speaker 1: just came out. Uh. And you know it starts with
50:46
Speaker 1: the parents, right. The parents kind of set us up,
50:51
Speaker 1: um and and gave us these opportunities. But we were
50:54
Speaker 1: always really competitive. Um. I know a lot of siblings
50:57
Speaker 1: really butt heads a lot, um and he did just
51:00
Speaker 1: in a competitive way. We'd be playing video games and
51:04
Speaker 1: getting into it who's winning, and you know, somebody would
51:08
Speaker 1: start winning for a week, then that other one is
51:10
Speaker 1: gonna go go in the lab, you know, try to
51:13
Speaker 1: get better. And you know, so we kept elevating each
51:17
Speaker 1: other through our competition. Uh. And then you know, it
51:21
Speaker 1: was much easier for me because Hans was, you know,
51:23
Speaker 1: the prototype. I got to watch him. It's like watching
51:26
Speaker 1: myself two years ahead. Um. He would go through things
51:29
Speaker 1: and go to no high school, college, the process, like
51:33
Speaker 1: all of those different things. Um. You know, he went
51:37
Speaker 1: through and I was always right there and I could
51:39
Speaker 1: sort of see what was going on and I could
51:41
Speaker 1: sort of follow in those footsteps, and I can get
51:43
Speaker 1: through much easier because it always much easier to do
51:46
Speaker 1: something the second time than it is the first time. UM.
51:49
Speaker 1: And so but we we also worked well together, like
51:53
Speaker 1: things that I'm good at, he's better at, and things
51:56
Speaker 1: that he's good at, I'm better at. And we rather
51:58
Speaker 1: than kind of diverse aging, we kind of use that
52:02
Speaker 1: uh to to help elevate each other and and bring
52:06
Speaker 1: that uh you know into the places that we work.
52:10
Speaker 1: You know. It just people always take a liking to us.
52:14
Speaker 1: We're always together, and we're always trying to just produce
52:17
Speaker 1: the best product, trying to do the best at whatever
52:19
Speaker 1: it is that we're doing. UM. But a lot of
52:21
Speaker 1: people don't understand, you know, going back to what you
52:24
Speaker 1: were saying that, you know, they don't understand how great
52:29
Speaker 1: we have to be. And I say we as in
52:31
Speaker 1: you know, people of color, especially in industries like these,
52:35
Speaker 1: like you have to be great every day just to
52:39
Speaker 1: get uh you know, just to get the credibility that
52:44
Speaker 1: people get for you know, being regular. Um. And and
52:51
Speaker 1: that pushes us a lot too, because one, when we
52:56
Speaker 1: run into issues, we we kind of know how we
52:59
Speaker 1: have to prepare that next generation. We think that's really important. UM.
53:04
Speaker 1: But also you know, we're able to see things from
53:10
Speaker 1: multiple different perspectives. Uh. And you know, we have friends
53:14
Speaker 1: in the industry, people of color, and we've had we've
53:18
Speaker 1: all had these discussions and we can see what they're
53:20
Speaker 1: dealing with, and they see what we're dealing with, and
53:23
Speaker 1: even people we work with, UM, and so we know
53:26
Speaker 1: how how important diversity is and we try to foster
53:30
Speaker 1: a work environment where you know that isn't the case. UM.
53:34
Speaker 1: So when you have a person of color at a
53:37
Speaker 1: company that's a CEO and you have you know, people
53:42
Speaker 1: all throughout the structure, UM, because getting getting people of
53:46
Speaker 1: color into these companies the one thing. But how far
53:48
Speaker 1: up do they go? UM? And so that that's been
53:53
Speaker 1: a mission of ours and we've had the full support
53:56
Speaker 1: of you know, our CEO or board UM, and they
54:00
Speaker 1: give us an opportunity to just do what we do,
54:03
Speaker 1: but also too to help bring others up as well. UH.
54:08
Speaker 1: And so you know that's that's constantly the mission, UM,
54:12
Speaker 1: is to to kind of expose that. And when people
54:16
Speaker 1: see us as a team, UM, you know one, you know,
54:21
Speaker 1: they are surprised that brothers can work so well together,
54:24
Speaker 1: but also it's just another person that made it right,
54:28
Speaker 1: that that's doing what it is that we do UM.
54:31
Speaker 1: And we can spread our wings further that way rather
54:34
Speaker 1: than trying to hold each other back. Wow, I'm talking
54:37
Speaker 1: to Harold and the halls. They're the like I want
54:40
Speaker 1: to the two dominant voices in the augmented world and
54:44
Speaker 1: also the virtual reality world. Hey guys, you know, I
54:47
Speaker 1: just want to say, man, this this interview is a
54:50
Speaker 1: It's a good interview for me, but it's I got
54:52
Speaker 1: to bring you all back individually because of the fact
54:54
Speaker 1: that your stories are just so uniquely as the pairing
54:58
Speaker 1: of you guys being siblings, because you're during these are different,
55:00
Speaker 1: like I said, two years separate you. But it also
55:03
Speaker 1: tells a different tale of how you approach this whole world,
55:07
Speaker 1: you know. But the but the joining, the hip thing,
55:10
Speaker 1: that sibling thing is powerful, man, and don't let nobody
55:13
Speaker 1: break it. But more importantly, I'm just happy you guys
55:15
Speaker 1: took the time to come on Money Making Conversation Masterclass
55:18
Speaker 1: because what y'all doing is something that I have I've
55:22
Speaker 1: lived all my life. Sometimes when I tell people have
55:24
Speaker 1: a math if I tell people got a math degree
55:26
Speaker 1: in the day, they go, WHOA. So I know what
55:29
Speaker 1: I've accomplished in my past still carries a lot of
55:32
Speaker 1: weight forty years later. And so, and with that being said,
55:36
Speaker 1: you guys are in the middle of it. My daughter,
55:39
Speaker 1: she's her degree is gonna be in game design. So
55:41
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna get to watch her venture into
55:44
Speaker 1: your world and also get her to hopefully become a
55:47
Speaker 1: star in your world because she know, Daddy, don't, don't,
55:50
Speaker 1: don't play the stereotype game. You know. I'm I'm I'm
55:54
Speaker 1: gonna break through the glass ceiling type guy. I do
55:57
Speaker 1: it through diplomacy, I do, but I do it through
56:01
Speaker 1: also being organized and have a plan of action. You
56:04
Speaker 1: guys have done it with your plan of action. I
56:06
Speaker 1: want to thank you all for coming on money making conversation.
56:08
Speaker 1: But y'all incredible by the way. Yeah, and you know
56:12
Speaker 1: it's it's cool as you say that too. Um, there's
56:14
Speaker 1: a lot of people that we've we've dealt with. UM.
56:18
Speaker 1: You mentioned Kipper and Limitless at the beginning of the show,
56:21
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what started to drive this mission
56:25
Speaker 1: even more. UM. You know, we're showing some We got
56:28
Speaker 1: called in to show some kids some virtual reality stuff,
56:32
Speaker 1: some of the games that we're working on. And we
56:35
Speaker 1: walked in and we see a team of kids, um,
56:39
Speaker 1: you know, in this Limitless program and they're all coding
56:43
Speaker 1: and I'm talking like second grade, third grade, fourth grade, right,
56:48
Speaker 1: and their coding and you know, we're learning about these
56:51
Speaker 1: kids and we were more amazed by them than they
56:55
Speaker 1: were by us. We're watching these kids, they've been entering
56:58
Speaker 1: these robotics competitions, getting better every year. Uh, and they're
57:03
Speaker 1: using this the Kipper curriculum. Um, and we're like, yo,
57:08
Speaker 1: how do we get this to more people? You know?
57:12
Speaker 1: So uh, we started working with them to uh, to
57:17
Speaker 1: build this robot simulator that can teach a kid how
57:22
Speaker 1: to code without being in a classroom. Right. We know
57:26
Speaker 1: kids are playing video games. You say, your daughters in
57:29
Speaker 1: the game design she I'm pretty sure she she plays
57:32
Speaker 1: video game that's involved. Right. Then we're like, how can
57:38
Speaker 1: we pulling this curriculum, you know, put the medicine in
57:43
Speaker 1: with the candy and teach them how to code with
57:46
Speaker 1: something that they want to do anyway, So now we're
57:49
Speaker 1: not chasing them to go into a classroom. You know,
57:53
Speaker 1: we're saying, hey, just play this game, you know, play
57:55
Speaker 1: with your friends, play online, go through uh these missions,
57:59
Speaker 1: go through these chat just go through the story, and
58:02
Speaker 1: before they know it, they're solving problems coding. Right. And
58:07
Speaker 1: so this this robot simulator that that we're working on
58:11
Speaker 1: that we're raising money for we think and it's specifically targeted.
58:15
Speaker 1: Uh you know two people of color, inner city kids. Uh,
58:20
Speaker 1: you know, make reducing that barrier to entry so that
58:24
Speaker 1: people understand, like, hey, this is gonna be like a
58:27
Speaker 1: second language to them, just like social media, Like kids
58:29
Speaker 1: growing up with social media and they can run circles around, um,
58:33
Speaker 1: the older people trying to be on something media. Right. Um.
58:37
Speaker 1: So if we can get this simulator into these schools,
58:40
Speaker 1: into people's hands and have kids go through this curriculum
58:44
Speaker 1: without necessarily realizing they're going through a tried and true curriculum,
58:49
Speaker 1: and we feel like we can start to to plant
58:52
Speaker 1: the seeds uh in our communities and and kids are
58:56
Speaker 1: gonna you know, grow these skills and and really uh
59:00
Speaker 1: start to increase our our power in this industry, our
59:06
Speaker 1: presence in this industry. So you know, if we can
59:10
Speaker 1: get more kids in tech, more kids in video games,
59:12
Speaker 1: and we'll be able to tell our stories and uh
59:15
Speaker 1: create the tech of the future. So you know when
59:19
Speaker 1: we still read about oh, you watch this stream or
59:22
Speaker 1: you watch certain things and you do certain things like
59:25
Speaker 1: oh that was created co created by a black person,
59:28
Speaker 1: or that was created by this person, Like you said,
59:31
Speaker 1: the hidden figures um and yeah, are you talk? Man?
59:37
Speaker 1: You talk for three straight minutes. I just want that said.
59:43
Speaker 1: I told he could talk, boy, and you're about to
59:45
Speaker 1: go on. He about to go on. But I appreciate
59:49
Speaker 1: that about that. I gotta bring you all by separately.
59:52
Speaker 1: I want you to. I want you to to. You
59:54
Speaker 1: wanted to say a couple of things because Harold that
59:57
Speaker 1: motivation and inspiration come to chase the man. You know,
1:00:00
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm you know I would. I would.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: I graduated high school in nineteen seventy six, Okay, and
1:00:06
Speaker 1: so it took me seven years to graduate from college
1:00:09
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what I wanted to do. When
1:00:10
Speaker 1: I look at my daughter in game design, she doesn't
1:00:13
Speaker 1: listen to the music I listened to. She can't care
1:00:15
Speaker 1: less about dancing. She can look at listen about being social.
1:00:19
Speaker 1: She's focused. You don't care less about the walking around
1:00:22
Speaker 1: in Taylor clothes. You know what I'm saying. She her
1:00:25
Speaker 1: phone works, she got she got uh, you know, a surface,
1:00:30
Speaker 1: She got an iPhone, she got a laptop that she
1:00:33
Speaker 1: does all her game design. And she has a MacBook,
1:00:36
Speaker 1: so she got all the technus. So she's happy and
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Speaker 1: she can beat because she she can do and edit
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Speaker 1: and everything. But the number one thing that when you
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Speaker 1: look at these things hans you know, when you when
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Speaker 1: you realize that you you've been you stepped out into
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Speaker 1: a world that was so different than what was expected
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Speaker 1: of you. What makes you smile? I mean just just
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Speaker 1: being able to enjoy, like what what? What's your going like?
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Speaker 1: At the at the core of all of this right now,
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Speaker 1: it's like I grew up playing games. I love I
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Speaker 1: love playing games. Uh, It's it's an escape, but it's
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Speaker 1: also an avenue for problems like learning, problem solving, improving yourself,
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Speaker 1: keeping your mind sharp. And I think it's getting to
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Speaker 1: the point where more and more of the mainstream is
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Speaker 1: realizing the benefits of that kind of interaction and the
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Speaker 1: fact that we can use that as a as a
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Speaker 1: way to teach people at a younger age that there's
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Speaker 1: value in this and that it can be valuable from
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Speaker 1: a fund standpoint, and it can be valuable from a
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Speaker 1: career standpoint. Being able to go to work and enjoy
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Speaker 1: what you do and be able to share that with
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Speaker 1: people on a on a grand scale, it's just exciting
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Speaker 1: and you know, just being able to take the work
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Speaker 1: hat off and then still enjoy enjoy that that piece
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Speaker 1: from a from a just I'm just relaxing and just
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Speaker 1: want to I want to escape for a bit, right.
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Speaker 1: It's great, you know, guys, I'm talking to um. If
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Speaker 1: you want to put a sports comparison, talking to the
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Lebron of what they do, just put
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Speaker 1: put the right hats on it and see as I
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Speaker 1: wrap up to you. I hate when people when I
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Speaker 1: meet people like these two guys, they said, you know,
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Speaker 1: we we were just playing video game. I'm just doing
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Speaker 1: what I love. I'm gonna telling you something. I could
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Speaker 1: play video game, but it reached the point where my
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Speaker 1: skills set love's gonna keep it going. I just had
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Speaker 1: the skill set and I didn't have it. So I
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Speaker 1: always have to push people back like YouTube and let
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Speaker 1: y'all know how brilliant you'll are and how different y'all are.
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Speaker 1: Y'all can be in all because at the at a
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Speaker 1: young age, you're seeing what if I could have done
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Speaker 1: that at their age, what I could have been at
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Speaker 1: my age. That's the all part that you are. But
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Speaker 1: what's making it possible is that they can see y'all.
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Speaker 1: Y'all y'all in results now. So I didn't have an
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Speaker 1: end results like you guys. When I was playing game.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have a Haunt and a Harold to go. Man,
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Speaker 1: I could be like those two guys. Look at them, Wow,
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Speaker 1: they look just like me. So I know that when
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Speaker 1: I say that, I don't say that in a in
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Speaker 1: a joking manner. I'm just labeling y'all correctly. Man, When
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Speaker 1: you stand out in the field, that separates you. When
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Speaker 1: I look at that, I look at Lebron on that
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Speaker 1: Tonal commercial. Brother thirty years my body didn't look like that.
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Speaker 1: The thirty eight come on that, y'all body probably don't
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Speaker 1: look like that now. Okay, they're look gonna be weird.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know Jordan, you know he
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Speaker 1: still has the most popular shoe basketball shot out there,
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. He's almost sixty and so being relevant and
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Speaker 1: h I just want to tell you, man, do not
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Speaker 1: undersell y'all brilliance. Man. You guys can share that little
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Speaker 1: corny story that we're just doing what we love. Now,
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Speaker 1: y'all have beyond doing what you love because love. I
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Speaker 1: love to play video games, but it hit the I
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Speaker 1: hit a wall with my talent, just like I hit
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Speaker 1: a wall with my talents with physics and I had
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Speaker 1: to go to a different direction. God gave y'all a gift, man,
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm gonna stick with y'all. Man, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna standing communication with you guys to brother. I want
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Speaker 1: to be there when y'all just start breaking the next
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Speaker 1: ceiling of opportunity for people of color, my daughter, everybody,
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Speaker 1: because y'all the next stars, man, y'all, the next future.
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Speaker 1: You know, when y'all get fifty, man, you know, y'all, y'all, y'all,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have award shows with y'all with troothes with
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Speaker 1: y'all names on them. Okay, I appreciate it now hopefully,
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Speaker 1: hopefully you know, the people that are giving us those
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Speaker 1: awards are people that we get to get. Don't worry, brother,
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Speaker 1: don't don't work. I tell you. You know, you know
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Speaker 1: my life has been interested, man, because you know, I
1:04:43
Speaker 1: had a birthday the other day, and you know, and
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Speaker 1: you know, people always text me, man, thank me saying
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Speaker 1: what I did for their lives, what they like, how
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Speaker 1: how I made a difference in there, and I was
1:04:54
Speaker 1: just being rashawn. You know, just like I'm being rashawn
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Speaker 1: with you guys right now, I'm gonna tell you how
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Speaker 1: I think you take it however you want to take it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you the truth. Stop acting like y'all
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Speaker 1: regular be the stars who y'all are. Y'all are doing stuff. Man,
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Speaker 1: I can only just admire. I can't. I can't even
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Speaker 1: copying here. I can pick up this phone, I can
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Speaker 1: dial it, but y'all can take this phone and do
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Speaker 1: something else with And I go, really, that's the same
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Speaker 1: phone I got. Wow. So I'm just telling you exercise
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Speaker 1: your brilliant and don't let it be under sold by anybody,
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Speaker 1: even in an interview. And it's it's the thing I do.
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Speaker 1: I call bragging, acknowledging your greatness. Continue to acknowledge your greatness, fellas,
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