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Dean Graves on the Law of One: Free Will, Consciousness & Service to Others · The Living Conversation

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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  today
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Dietz.
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  Welcome.
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  And
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  we're
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  talking
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  with
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  our
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  guest,
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  Dean
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  Graves.
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  And
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  you
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  have
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  been,
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  Dean,
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  you
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  have
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  been
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  outlining
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  to
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  us
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  some
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  very
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  interesting
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  and
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  intriguing
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  structures
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  of
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  how
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  we
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  develop.
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  And
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  that
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  I
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  had
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  understood
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  from
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  our
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  last
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  segment
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  was
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  that
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  you
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  got
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  in
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  touch
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  or
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  your
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  teacher
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  got
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  in
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  touch
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  with
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  you
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  in
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  a
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  pre
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  incarnate
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  way.
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  And
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  is
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  your,
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  are
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  you
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  in
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  touch
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  with
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  your
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  teacher
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  on
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  an
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  ongoing
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  basis?
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  Daily.
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  Daily.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  daily
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  conversation
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  with
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  them.
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  Oh,
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  that's
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  really,
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  that's
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  very
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  interesting.
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  And
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  if
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  I
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  might,
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  I'd
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  like
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  to
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  get
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  the
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  understanding
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  of
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  what
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  is
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  the
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  basis
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  of
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  reality
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  or
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  the
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  ontological
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  primitive
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  for
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  your
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  teacher.
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  Well,
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  they
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  are
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  not
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  incarnate.
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  Right.
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  They
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  are
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  a
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  social
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  memory
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  complex.
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  They
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  are
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  as,
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  as
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  we
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  evolve
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  through
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  these
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  ranges
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  of
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  consciousness,
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  we
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  are
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  surrendering.
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  We,
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  we
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  first
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  of
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  all,
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  from
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  our
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  range
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  of
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  consciousness,
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  we
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  essentially
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  outgrow
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  the
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  limitations
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  or
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  the
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  structure
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  of
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  the
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  archetypical
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  mind
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  that
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  we
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  were
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  referencing
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  before.
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  We
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  simply
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  outgrow
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  it.
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  It
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  no
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  longer
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  has
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  sway
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  on
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  our
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  processes.
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  We
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  are
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  also
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  surrendering
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  significantly
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  this
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  perception
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  of
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  separation
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  so
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  that
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  our
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  social
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  memory
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  complex
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  becomes
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  cemented
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  as
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  what
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  we
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  would
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  perceive
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  more
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  vast
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  individual.
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  And
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  the
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  individuality
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  becomes
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  defined
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  by
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  the
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  universe
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  that
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  we
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  participate
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  in.
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  Right.
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  Okay.
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  Every
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  universe
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  is,
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  has
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  a
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  design.
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  And
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  of
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  these
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  32
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  archetypes
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  of
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  the
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  Creator,
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  every
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  universe
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  is
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  a
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  different
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  mixing
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  and
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  matching
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  of
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  these
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  inherent
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  characteristics
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  and
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  our
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  end
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  distortions
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  of
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  those
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  inherent
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  characteristics.
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  Our
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  particular
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  universe
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  is
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  comprised
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  of
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  nine
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  of
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  those
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  archetypes,
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  the
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  five
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  inherent
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  characteristics,
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  the
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  free
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  will
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  distortion,
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  and
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  three
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  other
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  distortions.
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  As
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  our
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  universe
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  has
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  expanded,
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  it
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  has
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  expanded
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  in
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  groups
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  of
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  nine
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  stars.
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  Each
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  star
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  is
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  home
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  to
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  an
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  archetype.
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  Both
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  that's
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  true
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  for
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  inherent
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  characteristics
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  as
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  well
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  as
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  the
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  distortions.
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  So
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  we
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  participate
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  in
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  a
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  nine
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  star
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  system.
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  And
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  the
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  higher
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  consciousness
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  of
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  those
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  nine
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  stars
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  are
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  the
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  ones
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  that
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  guide
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  our
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  experience.
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  They
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  begin
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  new
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  populations,
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  they
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  retire
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  old
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  populations
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  that
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  aren't
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  functional
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  or
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  disperse
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  them
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  to
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  other
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  planets
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  that
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  are
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  being
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  more
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  productive.
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  And
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  so
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  all
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  the
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  other
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  universes
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  have
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  also
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  been
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  created
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  with
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  some
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  mixing
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  and
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  matching
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  of
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  those
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  archetypes.
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  Some
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  universes
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  have
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  all
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  32.
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  And
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  our
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  task
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  is
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  to
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  explore
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  uniquely
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  from
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  this
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  mixing
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  and
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  matching
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  of
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  the
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  archetypes
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  of
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  the
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  Creator,
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  creation
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  itself.
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  So
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  that
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  brings
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  me
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  to
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  the
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  question
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  about.
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  You
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  have
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  spoken
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  about
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  the
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  Creator
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  and
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  also
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  about
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  in
• 4:15
  one
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  your
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  videos
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  on
• 4:16
  your,
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  on
• 4:18
  your
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  website
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  about
• 4:20
  the
• 4:21
  releasing
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  of
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  emotional
• 4:22
  baggage.
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  But
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  get
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  into
• 4:24
  that
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  in
• 4:24
  just
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  a
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  moment.
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  Is
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  The
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  Creator,
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  as
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  your
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  teacher
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  understands
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  it
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  is
• 4:29
  guiding
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  you
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  to
• 4:30
  understand
• 4:30
  it,
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  is
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  the
• 4:32
  Creator
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  also
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  a
• 4:34
  social
• 4:34
  memory
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  complex?
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  And
• 4:36
  can
• 4:36
  we.
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  Is
• 4:37
  our
• 4:38
  evolution
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  towards
• 4:41
  becoming
• 4:42
  unified
• 4:43
  with
• 4:43
  that
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  social
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  memory
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  complex
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  as
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  the
• 4:45
  Creator
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  is
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  that.
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  Well,
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  yeah,
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  let
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  me.
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  Let
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  me
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  clarify
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  that.
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  The
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  purpose
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  of
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  creation
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  is
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  so
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  that
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  the
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  one
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  infinite
• 4:56
  Creator
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  might
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  know
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  itself
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  by
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  experiencing
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  itself.
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  And
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  this
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  is
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  a
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  determination
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  from
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  the
• 5:00
  wisdom
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  of
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  the
• 5:01
  Creator
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  of
• 5:02
  how
• 5:03
  it
• 5:03
  needed
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  explore
• 5:04
  itself.
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  And
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  if
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  you
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  understand
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  that
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  the
• 5:06
  one
• 5:06
  infinite
• 5:07
  creator
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  at
• 5:08
  one
• 5:08
  point
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  in
• 5:08
  time
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  was
• 5:08
  all
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  that
• 5:09
  there
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  is
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  still
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  all
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  that
• 5:10
  there
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  is.
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  Right.
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  If
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  you're
• 5:12
  all
• 5:12
  that
• 5:12
  there
• 5:12
  is,
• 5:12
  you
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  have
• 5:13
  no
• 5:13
  concept
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  of
• 5:14
  self
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  because
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  you
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  have
• 5:16
  nothing.
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  Nothing.
• 5:17
  There's
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  no
• 5:18
  mirror
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  reflect.
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  Right,
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  right.
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  And
• 5:20
  so
• 5:21
  the
• 5:21
  beginning
• 5:21
  of
• 5:22
  creation
• 5:22
  was
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  projection
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  by
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  one
• 5:24
  in
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  originating
• 5:26
  one
• 5:26
  infinite
• 5:27
  Creator
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  itself
• 5:29
  as
• 5:29
  an
• 5:29
  analog
• 5:30
  projection
• 5:31
  with
• 5:32
  one
• 5:34
  difference.
• 5:35
  The
• 5:35
  analog
• 5:36
  projection
• 5:37
  was
• 5:37
  intoxicated
• 5:38
  with
• 5:39
  free
• 5:39
  will.
• 5:40
  It
• 5:40
  perceived
• 5:41
  itself
• 5:41
  as
• 5:41
  separate
• 5:42
  from
• 5:42
  the
• 5:43
  Creator.
• 5:43
  Yeah.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:44
  so
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  Creator
• 5:45
  had
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  mirror
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  order
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  interact
• 5:47
  with.
• 5:49
  Since
• 5:49
  it
• 5:49
  was
• 5:49
  an
• 5:50
  analog
• 5:50
  projection
• 5:51
  of
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  one
• 5:51
  infinite
• 5:52
  Creator,
• 5:52
  had
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  same
• 5:53
  desire
• 5:53
  as
• 5:53
  the
• 5:54
  originating
• 5:54
  one
• 5:54
  infinite
• 5:55
  Creator.
• 5:55
  Creator.
• 5:55
  But
• 5:56
  that
• 5:56
  first
• 5:56
  step
• 5:57
  created
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  one
• 5:58
  infinite
• 5:59
  Creator,
• 5:59
  which
• 5:59
  is
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  Creator
• 6:00
  as
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  object,
• 6:00
  and
• 6:01
  also
• 6:01
  created
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  Creator
• 6:02
  as
• 6:02
  the
• 6:03
  subject.
• 6:04
  So
• 6:04
  it
• 6:04
  developed
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  first
• 6:05
  subject
• 6:06
  object
• 6:06
  relationship.
• 6:09
  And
• 6:09
  yet
• 6:09
  that
• 6:10
  subject
• 6:10
  object
• 6:10
  relationship
• 6:12
  is
• 6:13
  conceptual.
• 6:14
  Conceptual.
• 6:15
  And
• 6:15
  it's
• 6:15
  not
• 6:16
  necessarily
• 6:18
  reality.
• 6:19
  Is
• 6:19
  that
• 6:20
  correct?
• 6:21
  Well,
• 6:21
  it's
• 6:21
  reality
• 6:21
  to
• 6:22
  perception.
• 6:22
  Well,
• 6:23
  right,
• 6:23
  but
• 6:24
  there
• 6:24
  isn't.
• 6:24
  There
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  no
• 6:25
  reality
• 6:25
  other
• 6:25
  than
• 6:25
  what
• 6:26
  we
• 6:26
  perceive
• 6:26
  there
• 6:26
  to
• 6:27
  be.
• 6:29
  Can
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  ask
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  quick
• 6:30
  question
• 6:30
  here,
• 6:31
  please?
• 6:31
  Sure.
• 6:32
  Just.
• 6:33
  My
• 6:33
  Western
• 6:34
  philosophy
• 6:34
  is
• 6:35
  rusty.
• 6:35
  That
• 6:35
  was
• 6:35
  my
• 6:35
  undergrad,
• 6:37
  so
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  wanted
• 6:38
  to
• 6:38
  check
• 6:38
  in
• 6:39
  real
• 6:39
  quick.
• 6:39
  Was
• 6:40
  subject
• 6:40
  object
• 6:41
  an
• 6:41
  important
• 6:42
  piece
• 6:42
  of
• 6:43
  Kant?
• 6:44
  Am
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  remembering
• 6:44
  correctly?
• 6:45
  Was
• 6:45
  Kant
• 6:45
  involved
• 6:46
  in
• 6:46
  a
• 6:46
  lot
• 6:46
  of
• 6:47
  subject
• 6:47
  object
• 6:47
  type
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  analysis?
• 6:49
  Not
• 6:49
  that
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  recall.
• 6:50
  Okay,
• 6:51
  I'm
• 6:51
  misremembering.
• 6:52
  Thank
• 6:52
  you.
• 6:53
  And
• 6:53
  Anthony,
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  had
• 6:53
  a
• 6:54
  question.
• 6:54
  So
• 6:54
  sorry
• 6:55
  about
• 6:55
  that.
• 6:56
  Oh,
• 6:56
  I
• 6:57
  continue
• 6:57
  to.
• 6:57
  To
• 6:58
  be
• 6:58
  intrigued
• 7:00
  by
• 7:04
  what
• 7:05
  your
• 7:05
  teacher
• 7:05
  has
• 7:06
  for
• 7:06
  us
• 7:07
  through
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  and
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  understanding
• 7:11
  what
• 7:11
  is
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  basis
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  consciousness.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:14
  the
• 7:15
  Creator
• 7:15
  is
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  subject,
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  Creator
• 7:18
  that
• 7:18
  is
• 7:18
  consciousness.
• 7:20
  We
• 7:21
  are
• 7:21
  consciousness.
• 7:21
  Everything
• 7:22
  that
• 7:22
  we
• 7:22
  experience
• 7:23
  is
• 7:23
  consciousness,
• 7:24
  which
• 7:24
  means
• 7:24
  all
• 7:24
  of
• 7:25
  consciousness
• 7:25
  is
• 7:25
  conceptual.
• 7:29
  Okay.
• 7:29
  So
• 7:29
  there's
• 7:30
  no
• 7:30
  consciousness
• 7:30
  beyond
• 7:31
  concept.
• 7:32
  That's
• 7:32
  right.
• 7:33
  There's.
• 7:34
  There's
• 7:34
  no
• 7:35
  real
• 7:35
  other
• 7:36
  than
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  concept
• 7:38
  or
• 7:38
  the.
• 7:39
  There
• 7:39
  is
• 7:39
  no
• 7:39
  real
• 7:39
  other
• 7:40
  than
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  one
• 7:40
  infinite
• 7:41
  Creator.
• 7:41
  That's
• 7:42
  called
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  law
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  One,
• 7:43
  which
• 7:43
  is
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  one
• 7:44
  irrefutable
• 7:45
  law
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  all
• 7:45
  of
• 7:46
  creation.
• 7:48
  All
• 7:48
  is
• 7:49
  one.
• 7:49
  All
• 7:50
  right.
• 7:50
  Well.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:50
  I.
• 7:50
  I
• 7:51
  do
• 7:51
  appreciate
• 7:51
  that.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  wanted
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  come
• 7:54
  back,
• 7:54
  though,
• 7:54
  to.
• 7:54
  To
• 7:55
  continue
• 7:55
  to.
• 7:56
  To
• 7:57
  try
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  grasp
• 7:58
  or
• 7:58
  get
• 7:59
  A
• 7:59
  sense
• 7:59
  of
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  Creator
• 8:01
  as
• 8:02
  social
• 8:02
  memory
• 8:03
  complex.
• 8:03
  Is
• 8:04
  that
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  correct
• 8:04
  way
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  put
• 8:05
  that?
• 8:06
  Well,
• 8:06
  it
• 8:06
  is.
• 8:07
  You
• 8:07
  and
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  are
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  one
• 8:08
  infinite
• 8:08
  creator,
• 8:08
  experiencing
• 8:09
  ourselves
• 8:09
  at
• 8:10
  this
• 8:10
  range
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  consciousness.
• 8:11
  Right.
• 8:11
  It's
• 8:12
  just
• 8:12
  we
• 8:12
  are
• 8:12
  extremely
• 8:13
  intoxicated
• 8:14
  with
• 8:14
  free
• 8:14
  will.
• 8:15
  You
• 8:15
  can
• 8:16
  define
• 8:16
  consciousness
• 8:17
  as
• 8:17
  our
• 8:17
  creator
• 8:18
  ness
• 8:18
  intoxicated
• 8:19
  with
• 8:19
  free
• 8:19
  will.
• 8:20
  What
• 8:20
  has
• 8:21
  made
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  hierarchy
• 8:22
  of
• 8:22
  creation
• 8:23
  possible
• 8:24
  is
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  increasing
• 8:25
  degree
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  intoxication
• 8:26
  of
• 8:27
  free
• 8:27
  will.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:28
  it
• 8:28
  works
• 8:28
  very
• 8:29
  much
• 8:29
  like
• 8:29
  whiskey.
• 8:30
  The
• 8:30
  more
• 8:30
  whiskey
• 8:31
  that
• 8:31
  you
• 8:31
  drink,
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  more
• 8:32
  foolishly
• 8:33
  you
• 8:33
  behave
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  less
• 8:34
  like
• 8:35
  your
• 8:36
  authentic
• 8:36
  self.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:38
  so
• 8:38
  we
• 8:38
  are
• 8:39
  extremely
• 8:39
  intoxicated
• 8:40
  with
• 8:40
  free
• 8:41
  will.
• 8:42
  The
• 8:42
  evolution
• 8:43
  of
• 8:44
  consciousness,
• 8:44
  which
• 8:45
  is
• 8:45
  synonymous
• 8:46
  again
• 8:46
  with
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  enlightenment
• 8:47
  path,
• 8:48
  is
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  process
• 8:48
  of
• 8:49
  sobering
• 8:49
  from
• 8:50
  our
• 8:50
  free
• 8:50
  will
• 8:50
  intoxication.
• 8:53
  The
• 8:53
  Buddha
• 8:54
  was
• 8:54
  extremely
• 8:56
  sobered
• 8:57
  from
• 8:57
  his
• 8:58
  free
• 8:58
  will
• 8:58
  intoxication.
• 9:00
  Who
• 9:00
  was
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  Buddha?
• 9:02
  The
• 9:02
  Buddha.
• 9:02
  Oh,
• 9:02
  okay,
• 9:03
  okay.
• 9:05
  Because
• 9:05
  on
• 9:05
  your
• 9:05
  website
• 9:06
  also
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  talk
• 9:07
  about
• 9:07
  this
• 9:08
  range
• 9:09
  of
• 9:09
  entropy
• 9:10
  that
• 9:11
  there
• 9:11
  are
• 9:11
  eight
• 9:11
  steps
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  at
• 9:12
  the
• 9:13
  bottom
• 9:13
  is
• 9:13
  chaos
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  at
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  top
• 9:14
  is
• 9:14
  stability.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  stability
• 9:16
  is
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  same
• 9:17
  as
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  Creator.
• 9:18
  Is
• 9:18
  that
• 9:19
  correct?
• 9:19
  Well,
• 9:20
  the.
• 9:20
  The
• 9:20
  8th
• 9:21
  Ranger,
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  8th
• 9:22
  density
• 9:23
  is
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  Creator
• 9:24
  is
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  subject.
• 9:26
  The
• 9:27
  analog
• 9:27
  projection
• 9:28
  of
• 9:28
  the.
• 9:28
  The
• 9:28
  creator
• 9:29
  as
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  object
• 9:30
  is.
• 9:30
  Is
• 9:30
  not
• 9:31
  chaotic.
• 9:32
  It
• 9:32
  is
• 9:32
  everything.
• 9:34
  And
• 9:34
  yet
• 9:34
  beyond
• 9:35
  subject
• 9:35
  object.
• 9:37
  Is
• 9:38
  there
• 9:38
  a
• 9:38
  creator
• 9:39
  beyond
• 9:39
  subject
• 9:39
  object?
• 9:40
  Yeah,
• 9:40
  well,
• 9:40
  yes,
• 9:41
  because
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  was.
• 9:41
  That
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  initiating
• 9:43
  creator
• 9:44
  that
• 9:45
  projected
• 9:45
  itself
• 9:46
  as
• 9:46
  an
• 9:46
  analog
• 9:46
  projection.
• 9:47
  Oh,
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  see.
• 9:48
  In
• 9:48
  order
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  understand
• 9:49
  itself.
• 9:49
  Right,
• 9:51
  okay.
• 9:51
  And
• 9:51
  then
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  would
• 9:53
  imagine
• 9:53
  that
• 9:54
  in.
• 9:54
  In
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  way
• 9:55
  that
• 9:55
  you've
• 9:55
  been
• 9:55
  speaking
• 9:56
  about
• 9:56
  intoxication
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  free
• 9:57
  will,
• 9:59
  that's
• 10:00
  part
• 10:00
  of
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  accumulation
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  emotional
• 10:02
  baggage.
• 10:02
  Is
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  right?
• 10:03
  Well,
• 10:04
  emotional
• 10:04
  baggage
• 10:04
  contributes
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  that.
• 10:06
  We
• 10:06
  are
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  range
• 10:07
  of
• 10:07
  consciousness
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  experiences
• 10:09
  emotional
• 10:09
  baggage.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:10
  emotional
• 10:10
  baggage
• 10:10
  is
• 10:11
  nothing
• 10:11
  more.
• 10:11
  We
• 10:12
  interpret
• 10:12
  every
• 10:12
  experience
• 10:13
  with
• 10:14
  emotion.
• 10:15
  Right,
• 10:15
  right.
• 10:16
  Emotion,
• 10:16
  again,
• 10:17
  is
• 10:17
  another
• 10:17
  misunderstood
• 10:18
  concept.
• 10:19
  We
• 10:20
  perceive
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  there
• 10:20
  are
• 10:21
  hundreds,
• 10:21
  if
• 10:21
  not
• 10:22
  thousands
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  different
• 10:23
  emotions
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  there's
• 10:25
  actually
• 10:25
  only
• 10:25
  one
• 10:26
  emotion.
• 10:27
  That
• 10:27
  is
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  spectrum
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  emotion
• 10:29
  is.
• 10:29
  Either
• 10:30
  this
• 10:30
  thought
• 10:30
  that
• 10:31
  I'm
• 10:31
  processing
• 10:32
  right
• 10:32
  now
• 10:32
  feels
• 10:33
  good
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  like
• 10:34
  it,
• 10:35
  or
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  doesn't
• 10:35
  feel
• 10:36
  good
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  don't
• 10:36
  like
• 10:37
  it.
• 10:38
  If
• 10:38
  you
• 10:38
  don't
• 10:38
  like
• 10:39
  it,
• 10:39
  it's
• 10:39
  a
• 10:40
  negative
• 10:40
  emotion.
• 10:41
  If
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  do
• 10:41
  like
• 10:41
  it,
• 10:42
  it
• 10:42
  is
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  positive
• 10:43
  emotion.
• 10:44
  That's
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  only
• 10:44
  emotion
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  there
• 10:45
  is.
• 10:46
  But
• 10:46
  we
• 10:46
  are
• 10:46
  obligated
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  make
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  choice
• 10:49
  before
• 10:49
  we
• 10:49
  can
• 10:49
  proceed
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  next
• 10:50
  thought.
• 10:52
  Every
• 10:52
  thought
• 10:53
  in
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  of
• 10:53
  itself
• 10:54
  is
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  complete
• 10:54
  emotion.
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  mean,
• 10:55
  a
• 10:56
  complete
• 10:56
  experience.
• 10:57
  We
• 10:58
  perceive
• 10:58
  because
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  our
• 10:59
  low
• 10:59
  level
• 10:59
  of
• 11:00
  awareness
• 11:01
  that
• 11:02
  an
• 11:02
  experience
• 11:02
  will
• 11:03
  last
• 11:03
  some
• 11:03
  period
• 11:03
  of
• 11:04
  time,
• 11:04
  30
• 11:04
  minutes
• 11:05
  or
• 11:05
  an
• 11:05
  hour,
• 11:06
  whatever.
• 11:06
  But
• 11:07
  that's
• 11:07
  comprised
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  dozens
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  thoughts.
• 11:09
  And
• 11:09
  with
• 11:09
  each
• 11:10
  individual
• 11:10
  thought
• 11:11
  within
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  perceived
• 11:13
  experience,
• 11:13
  we
• 11:13
  are
• 11:14
  obligated
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  make
• 11:15
  and
• 11:16
  adjudicate
• 11:16
  every
• 11:17
  thought
• 11:17
  whether
• 11:17
  it
• 11:18
  feels
• 11:18
  good
• 11:19
  or
• 11:19
  doesn't
• 11:19
  feel
• 11:19
  good.
• 11:21
  That's
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  only
• 11:21
  emotion
• 11:22
  there
• 11:22
  is.
• 11:23
  Yeah.
• 11:24
  We
• 11:24
  have
• 11:24
  experiences
• 11:25
  for
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  sole
• 11:26
  purpose
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  learning.
• 11:27
  We
• 11:28
  perceive
• 11:28
  erroneously
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  we're
• 11:29
  learning
• 11:30
  about
• 11:30
  other
• 11:30
  people
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  world
• 11:31
  around
• 11:32
  us.
• 11:32
  But
• 11:32
  what
• 11:32
  we're
• 11:33
  actually
• 11:33
  learning
• 11:33
  about
• 11:34
  is
• 11:34
  ourselves
• 11:34
  in
• 11:35
  relation
• 11:35
  to
• 11:36
  people,
• 11:36
  places
• 11:37
  and
• 11:37
  things.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:38
  so
• 11:39
  the
• 11:39
  people,
• 11:39
  places
• 11:39
  and
• 11:40
  things
• 11:40
  provide
• 11:40
  us
• 11:41
  with
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  opportunity
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  be.
• 11:42
  To
• 11:43
  become
• 11:43
  more
• 11:43
  aware
• 11:43
  of
• 11:44
  ourselves
• 11:45
  by
• 11:45
  virtue
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  this
• 11:46
  process
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  interpreting
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  thoughts
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  are
• 11:49
  provoked
• 11:50
  by
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  interaction.
• 11:52
  Dean,
• 11:53
  is
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  Enlightenment
• 11:54
  Awakening
• 11:55
  experience.
• 11:55
  Is
• 11:56
  that
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  sense
• 11:57
  of
• 11:59
  understanding
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  Creator
• 12:00
  within
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  perceiving
• 12:02
  these
• 12:02
  emotions
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  thoughts
• 12:03
  from
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  standpoint
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  Creator
• 12:04
  within?
• 12:05
  Is
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  a
• 12:05
  way
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  describing
• 12:06
  it?
• 12:07
  Well,
• 12:07
  it
• 12:07
  is.
• 12:07
  But
• 12:08
  understand,
• 12:09
  we
• 12:09
  are
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  Creator
• 12:10
  experiencing
• 12:11
  ourselves
• 12:12
  at
• 12:12
  this
• 12:12
  range
• 12:12
  of
• 12:12
  consciousness,
• 12:13
  which
• 12:13
  means
• 12:14
  we
• 12:14
  are
• 12:14
  very
• 12:14
  intoxicated
• 12:15
  with
• 12:15
  free
• 12:15
  will
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  have
• 12:17
  limited
• 12:17
  capacities.
• 12:18
  But
• 12:18
  we
• 12:18
  all
• 12:18
  have
• 12:19
  awareness.
• 12:20
  We
• 12:20
  are
• 12:20
  designed
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  begin
• 12:22
  this
• 12:23
  process
• 12:23
  of
• 12:24
  living
• 12:25
  by
• 12:25
  pointing
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  awareness
• 12:27
  outside
• 12:27
  of
• 12:27
  us.
• 12:28
  Because
• 12:28
  we're
• 12:29
  in
• 12:29
  the
• 12:29
  process
• 12:29
  of
• 12:30
  creating
• 12:30
  an
• 12:30
  individual
• 12:31
  identity,
• 12:32
  a
• 12:32
  hierophant,
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  false
• 12:33
  perception
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  self.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  we
• 12:35
  do
• 12:36
  that
• 12:36
  for
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  sole
• 12:37
  purpose
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  getting
• 12:37
  more
• 12:38
  of
• 12:38
  what
• 12:38
  we
• 12:38
  like.
• 12:39
  No
• 12:39
  one
• 12:39
  is
• 12:39
  motivated
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  get
• 12:40
  more
• 12:40
  of
• 12:40
  what
• 12:40
  they
• 12:41
  don't
• 12:41
  like.
• 12:41
  We're
• 12:41
  all
• 12:41
  motivated
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  get
• 12:42
  more
• 12:42
  of
• 12:42
  what
• 12:43
  we
• 12:43
  like.
• 12:43
  And.
• 12:44
  And
• 12:44
  so
• 12:44
  our
• 12:44
  awareness
• 12:45
  has
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  be
• 12:45
  pointed
• 12:46
  outside
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  us.
• 12:47
  So
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  can
• 12:47
  observe
• 12:48
  you
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  make
• 12:49
  adjustments
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  my
• 12:51
  hierophant
• 12:52
  in
• 12:52
  order
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  find.
• 12:53
  Try
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  trick
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  more
• 12:54
  successfully
• 12:55
  in
• 12:55
  giving
• 12:55
  me
• 12:56
  more
• 12:56
  of
• 12:56
  what
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  like.
• 12:58
  Awakening
• 12:59
  is
• 12:59
  nothing
• 13:00
  more
• 13:00
  than
• 13:01
  realizing
• 13:01
  that.
• 13:02
  That
• 13:02
  whether
• 13:03
  you're.
• 13:03
  You're
• 13:03
  able
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  define
• 13:04
  that
• 13:05
  experience,
• 13:05
  that
• 13:06
  process
• 13:07
  or
• 13:07
  not,
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  you're
• 13:08
  not
• 13:08
  getting
• 13:08
  happier
• 13:09
  by
• 13:09
  virtue
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  behaving
• 13:10
  in
• 13:10
  that
• 13:11
  way.
• 13:11
  Okay.
• 13:12
  The
• 13:12
  awakening
• 13:13
  is
• 13:13
  the.
• 13:13
  The
• 13:14
  inverting
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  that
• 13:15
  awareness
• 13:16
  inside
• 13:16
  to
• 13:17
  start
• 13:17
  becoming
• 13:17
  aware
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  you're
• 13:19
  not
• 13:19
  happy,
• 13:19
  number
• 13:20
  one.
• 13:20
  But
• 13:21
  then
• 13:21
  to
• 13:21
  find
• 13:22
  out
• 13:22
  what
• 13:22
  it
• 13:22
  is
• 13:22
  that
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  have
• 13:23
  created
• 13:24
  by
• 13:24
  virtue
• 13:24
  of
• 13:24
  this
• 13:25
  perception
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  self
• 13:26
  that
• 13:27
  is
• 13:27
  perpetuating
• 13:28
  your
• 13:28
  unhappiness.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:30
  it
• 13:30
  is
• 13:30
  through
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  inwardly
• 13:32
  directed
• 13:33
  awareness
• 13:33
  that
• 13:34
  you
• 13:34
  begin
• 13:34
  to
• 13:35
  fulfill
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  purpose
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  creation
• 13:36
  by
• 13:37
  exploring
• 13:37
  yourself.
• 13:38
  Wonderful.
• 13:39
  Yeah.
• 13:40
  Well,
• 13:40
  we
• 13:40
  are
• 13:40
  coming
• 13:40
  up
• 13:41
  on
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  another
• 13:42
  break
• 13:42
  and
• 13:43
  I'm
• 13:43
  Anthony
• 13:44
  Wright
• 13:44
  and
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  am
• 13:45
  your
• 13:45
  co
• 13:45
  host
• 13:45
  today
• 13:45
  on
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  Living
• 13:46
  Conversation
• 13:47
  with
• 13:47
  Adam
• 13:48
  Dietz.
• 13:48
  Dietz.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:49
  we're
• 13:49
  here
• 13:49
  with
• 13:49
  our
• 13:49
  guest,
• 13:50
  Dean
• 13:50
  Graves.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:52
  how
• 13:52
  can
• 13:52
  people
• 13:53
  contact
• 13:53
  you,
• 13:53
  Dean?
• 13:54
  On
• 13:55
  my
• 13:55
  website,
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  initial
• 13:56
  D.
• 13:56
  DeaN-E-A-N
• 13:57
  Graves.
• 13:58
  G-R-A
• 13:58
  V
• 13:59
  E
• 13:59
  S.org
• 14:00
  Great.
• 14:01
  All
• 14:01
  right,
• 14:02
  we'll
• 14:02
  be
• 14:02
  right
• 14:02
  back,
• 14:03
  so
• 14:03
  stay
• 14:03
  tuned.
• 14:05
  Anthony.
• 14:05
  I'm
• 14:05
  Anthony
• 14:05
  Wright
• 14:06
  and
• 14:06
  I'm
• 14:06
  your
• 14:06
  host
• 14:07
  today
• 14:07
  on
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  Living
• 14:09
  Conversation
• 14:09
  with
• 14:10
  my
• 14:10
  co
• 14:10
  host,
• 14:11
  Adam
• 14:11
  Dietz.
• 14:11
  Welcome
• 14:12
  back.
• 14:12
  And
• 14:12
  we
• 14:13
  are
• 14:13
  here
• 14:13
  with
• 14:13
  our
• 14:14
  guest,
• 14:14
  Dean
• 14:15
  Graves.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:17
  before
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  break,
• 14:17
  Dean,
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  had
• 14:18
  answered
• 14:19
  Adam's
• 14:20
  question
• 14:21
  about
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  enlightenment
• 14:22
  experience.
• 14:23
  One
• 14:24
  of
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  things
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  would
• 14:25
  like
• 14:25
  to
• 14:26
  in
• 14:26
  our,
• 14:27
  in
• 14:27
  this
• 14:27
  last
• 14:27
  segment
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  our
• 14:29
  show
• 14:29
  today
• 14:30
  is
• 14:30
  begin
• 14:31
  to
• 14:32
  explore
• 14:32
  what
• 14:33
  might
• 14:33
  be
• 14:33
  of
• 14:34
  use
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  our
• 14:35
  listeners
• 14:36
  in
• 14:36
  their
• 14:37
  daily
• 14:37
  experience
• 14:38
  from
• 14:39
  the
• 14:40
  structure
• 14:40
  and
• 14:41
  the
• 14:42
  points
• 14:42
  of
• 14:43
  awareness
• 14:43
  that
• 14:44
  you
• 14:44
  have
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  transmission
• 14:47
  from
• 14:47
  your
• 14:47
  teacher.
• 14:48
  Okay.
• 14:52
  Because
• 14:53
  on
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  website
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  speak
• 14:54
  about
• 14:55
  stress
• 14:55
  and
• 14:55
  suffering,
• 14:56
  mental
• 14:56
  health,
• 14:58
  happiness,
• 14:58
  certainly
• 15:00
  emotional
• 15:01
  help.
• 15:01
  And
• 15:01
  I
• 15:02
  guess
• 15:04
  part
• 15:04
  of
• 15:04
  what
• 15:04
  I'm
• 15:05
  interested
• 15:05
  in,
• 15:07
  one
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  my
• 15:08
  abiding
• 15:08
  points
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  interest
• 15:09
  is
• 15:11
  how
• 15:12
  to
• 15:13
  assist
• 15:14
  our
• 15:14
  young
• 15:14
  people
• 15:14
  from
• 15:15
  getting
• 15:15
  their
• 15:15
  nose
• 15:15
  out
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  their
• 15:16
  phone.
• 15:18
  You
• 15:18
  know,
• 15:20
  and,
• 15:20
  and
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  do
• 15:21
  appreciate
• 15:21
  that,
• 15:22
  you
• 15:22
  know,
• 15:23
  are.
• 15:25
  It's
• 15:26
  by
• 15:26
  design
• 15:26
  that
• 15:27
  people
• 15:27
  are,
• 15:27
  are
• 15:28
  drawn
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  that.
• 15:29
  But
• 15:29
  that's
• 15:30
  one
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  perennial
• 15:31
  things
• 15:31
  that
• 15:31
  I
• 15:32
  hold
• 15:33
  in
• 15:33
  my
• 15:33
  own
• 15:34
  practice
• 15:35
  as
• 15:35
  something
• 15:35
  that
• 15:36
  I
• 15:37
  want
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  assist
• 15:38
  people
• 15:39
  to
• 15:39
  become
• 15:42
  more
• 15:43
  free
• 15:43
  of
• 15:43
  that.
• 15:44
  What
• 15:44
  are
• 15:44
  your
• 15:44
  thoughts
• 15:44
  about
• 15:45
  that?
• 15:46
  Well,
• 15:47
  one
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  the
• 15:51
  critically
• 15:52
  strategic
• 15:54
  choices
• 15:55
  that
• 15:56
  we
• 15:56
  need
• 15:56
  to
• 15:57
  make
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  order
• 15:57
  to
• 15:58
  prepare
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  evolve
• 15:59
  beyond
• 15:59
  this
• 15:59
  range
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  consciousness.
• 16:01
  Right.
• 16:01
  Is
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  choose
• 16:03
  whether
• 16:03
  we
• 16:03
  are
• 16:03
  going
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  polarize
• 16:05
  service
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  self
• 16:06
  or
• 16:07
  service
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  others.
• 16:10
  Those
• 16:10
  choosing
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  service
• 16:11
  to
• 16:12
  others
• 16:12
  path
• 16:12
  are
• 16:13
  choosing
• 16:13
  to
• 16:14
  align
• 16:14
  with
• 16:14
  the
• 16:15
  Creator.
• 16:16
  And
• 16:16
  that's
• 16:16
  considered
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  be
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  direct
• 16:18
  path
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  will
• 16:18
  lead
• 16:19
  us
• 16:19
  through
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  evolutionary
• 16:21
  process
• 16:22
  with
• 16:22
  the
• 16:23
  least
• 16:24
  distraction
• 16:26
  developing
• 16:26
  this
• 16:27
  identity.
• 16:27
  This
• 16:28
  hierophant
• 16:29
  provides
• 16:30
  us
• 16:30
  with
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  opportunity
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  choose
• 16:32
  to
• 16:32
  have
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  choice,
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  choose
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  service
• 16:34
  to
• 16:35
  self
• 16:35
  path.
• 16:36
  Most
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  deviant
• 16:38
  behavior
• 16:38
  that
• 16:38
  we
• 16:39
  perceive
• 16:39
  in
• 16:40
  our
• 16:40
  world,
• 16:42
  narcissism,
• 16:43
  sociopathy,
• 16:46
  psychopathy,
• 16:47
  are
• 16:48
  nothing
• 16:48
  more
• 16:49
  than
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  individual's
• 16:50
  choice
• 16:51
  over
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  series
• 16:52
  of
• 16:52
  lifetimes
• 16:53
  in
• 16:53
  order
• 16:53
  to
• 16:54
  follow
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  service
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  self
• 16:56
  path
• 16:57
  and
• 16:58
  develop
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  identity
• 16:59
  which
• 16:59
  is
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  path
• 17:00
  of
• 17:00
  separation
• 17:01
  from
• 17:01
  the
• 17:02
  Creator.
• 17:03
  And
• 17:03
  so
• 17:03
  consequently,
• 17:04
  that
• 17:05
  evolutionary
• 17:05
  path
• 17:07
  can
• 17:07
  go
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  long
• 17:08
  way.
• 17:08
  But
• 17:08
  it's
• 17:08
  considered
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  be
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  indirect
• 17:10
  path
• 17:10
  because
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  eventually
• 17:12
  hit
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  roadblock.
• 17:13
  You
• 17:13
  can't
• 17:13
  go
• 17:13
  any
• 17:14
  further.
• 17:14
  You
• 17:14
  can't
• 17:14
  be
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  unity
• 17:15
  and
• 17:16
  in
• 17:16
  separation
• 17:16
  at
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  same
• 17:17
  time.
• 17:17
  Yeah,
• 17:18
  it's
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  paradox.
• 17:19
  So
• 17:19
  they've
• 17:19
  got
• 17:19
  to
• 17:20
  come
• 17:20
  back
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  start
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  evolutionary
• 17:21
  process
• 17:22
  all
• 17:22
  over
• 17:23
  again.
• 17:24
  But
• 17:25
  that
• 17:25
  notwithstanding,
• 17:26
  because
• 17:26
  they
• 17:27
  can
• 17:28
  develop
• 17:29
  along
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  path
• 17:30
  a
• 17:31
  long
• 17:31
  way,
• 17:31
  they
• 17:31
  become
• 17:33
  the
• 17:34
  antagonist
• 17:35
  for
• 17:35
  those
• 17:36
  along
• 17:36
  the
• 17:37
  service
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  others
• 17:38
  path.
• 17:39
  Because
• 17:40
  we
• 17:40
  are
• 17:40
  fed
• 17:41
  constantly
• 17:42
  by
• 17:42
  what
• 17:43
  is
• 17:43
  called
• 17:43
  intelligent
• 17:44
  energy,
• 17:45
  we
• 17:45
  cannot
• 17:45
  continue
• 17:46
  to
• 17:46
  participate
• 17:47
  in
• 17:47
  creation
• 17:48
  without
• 17:48
  this
• 17:49
  flow
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  intelligent
• 17:50
  energy
• 17:50
  which
• 17:51
  is
• 17:51
  provided
• 17:51
  by
• 17:52
  our
• 17:52
  higher
• 17:52
  self,
• 17:53
  just
• 17:53
  ourselves.
• 17:54
  In
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  future,
• 17:56
  if
• 17:56
  you're
• 17:56
  choosing
• 17:56
  the
• 17:57
  service
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  self
• 17:58
  path,
• 17:58
  then
• 17:58
  you're
• 17:58
  choosing
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  separate
• 17:59
  yourself
• 18:00
  from
• 18:00
  that,
• 18:01
  but
• 18:01
  you
• 18:01
  still
• 18:01
  have
• 18:02
  to
• 18:02
  have
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  energy.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  so
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  only
• 18:05
  other
• 18:06
  place
• 18:06
  that
• 18:06
  you
• 18:06
  can
• 18:07
  get
• 18:07
  it
• 18:07
  from
• 18:08
  is
• 18:08
  others
• 18:09
  participating
• 18:10
  in
• 18:10
  creation
• 18:10
  that
• 18:11
  are
• 18:11
  getting
• 18:11
  this
• 18:12
  flow
• 18:12
  directly
• 18:13
  from
• 18:13
  their
• 18:13
  intellect,
• 18:14
  their
• 18:14
  higher
• 18:14
  self.
• 18:15
  And
• 18:16
  you
• 18:16
  don't
• 18:16
  get
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  directly
• 18:17
  in.
• 18:18
  Service
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  self,
• 18:19
  even
• 18:20
  service
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  self.
• 18:21
  You
• 18:21
  give
• 18:21
  it
• 18:21
  up.
• 18:21
  You,
• 18:22
  you,
• 18:22
  you,
• 18:23
  you
• 18:23
  choose
• 18:25
  to,
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  divorce
• 18:27
  yourself
• 18:28
  from
• 18:28
  that
• 18:28
  source
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  energy,
• 18:30
  but
• 18:30
  you
• 18:30
  got
• 18:30
  to
• 18:31
  get
• 18:31
  it
• 18:31
  from
• 18:31
  somewhere
• 18:32
  as
• 18:32
  a
• 18:32
  separated
• 18:33
  identity.
• 18:33
  Right?
• 18:34
  Right.
• 18:34
  But
• 18:34
  our
• 18:35
  range
• 18:35
  of
• 18:35
  consciousness
• 18:36
  is
• 18:36
  like
• 18:37
  Goldilocks's
• 18:38
  porridge.
• 18:39
  We
• 18:39
  have
• 18:39
  enough
• 18:40
  energy
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  make
• 18:40
  it
• 18:41
  worth
• 18:41
  their
• 18:41
  while
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  steal
• 18:42
  it,
• 18:43
  but
• 18:44
  we're
• 18:44
  not
• 18:44
  smart
• 18:45
  enough
• 18:45
  to
• 18:45
  know
• 18:45
  we're
• 18:46
  not
• 18:46
  supposed
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  give
• 18:46
  it
• 18:46
  away.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  so
• 18:49
  they
• 18:49
  greatly
• 18:50
  interfere
• 18:51
  in
• 18:52
  our
• 18:52
  experience
• 18:53
  of
• 18:53
  creation.
• 18:55
  And
• 18:56
  they
• 18:56
  are
• 18:56
  not
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  our
• 18:57
  higher
• 18:57
  consciousness,
• 18:58
  our
• 18:59
  higher
• 18:59
  self
• 19:00
  being,
• 19:00
  but
• 19:00
  they
• 19:00
  are
• 19:01
  significant
• 19:02
  as
• 19:03
  we
• 19:03
  would
• 19:03
  perceive
• 19:03
  it
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  be
• 19:04
  more
• 19:04
  powerful.
• 19:05
  Most
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  UFOs
• 19:06
  or
• 19:06
  UAPs
• 19:07
  that
• 19:07
  we
• 19:07
  see
• 19:08
  historically
• 19:10
  are
• 19:10
  nothing
• 19:10
  more
• 19:11
  than
• 19:11
  those
• 19:13
  service
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  self
• 19:14
  individuals
• 19:14
  that
• 19:14
  have
• 19:15
  graduated
• 19:15
  to
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  next
• 19:16
  range
• 19:16
  of
• 19:17
  consciousness,
• 19:17
  but
• 19:17
  not
• 19:18
  beyond
• 19:18
  that.
• 19:19
  In
• 19:19
  order
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  instill
• 19:20
  fear
• 19:21
  in
• 19:21
  our
• 19:23
  daily
• 19:23
  life.
• 19:23
  When
• 19:24
  we
• 19:24
  feel
• 19:24
  fear,
• 19:25
  we're
• 19:25
  giving
• 19:25
  away
• 19:25
  that
• 19:26
  energy.
• 19:26
  Right?
• 19:27
  Right.
• 19:27
  When
• 19:27
  we
• 19:28
  have
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  war,
• 19:28
  we're
• 19:28
  giving
• 19:29
  away
• 19:29
  that
• 19:29
  energy.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:31
  so
• 19:31
  they
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  the,
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  individualities
• 19:35
  that
• 19:35
  are
• 19:36
  in
• 19:36
  service
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  self,
• 19:37
  Right?
• 19:37
  Exactly.
• 19:38
  Okay,
• 19:39
  exactly.
• 19:40
  Those
• 19:40
  individuals
• 19:41
  that
• 19:42
  have
• 19:43
  for
• 19:43
  the
• 19:44
  most
• 19:44
  part
• 19:44
  dominated
• 19:45
  our
• 19:45
  politics
• 19:46
  and
• 19:48
  development
• 19:49
  as
• 19:49
  populations
• 19:51
  are
• 19:52
  strongly
• 19:53
  influenced
• 19:53
  by
• 19:53
  the
• 19:54
  service
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  self
• 19:55
  beyond
• 19:56
  this
• 19:56
  range
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  consciousness.
• 19:59
  They
• 19:59
  have
• 19:59
  a
• 20:00
  philosophy.
• 20:00
  The
• 20:01
  philosophy
• 20:01
  is
• 20:03
  they
• 20:03
  have
• 20:03
  great
• 20:03
  integrity,
• 20:04
  but
• 20:04
  the
• 20:05
  integrity
• 20:05
  is
• 20:06
  towards
• 20:06
  themselves.
• 20:08
  Right.
• 20:08
  The
• 20:08
  commitment,
• 20:09
  not
• 20:09
  towards
• 20:10
  others.
• 20:11
  So
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  come
• 20:12
  back
• 20:12
  then
• 20:12
  about
• 20:12
  the
• 20:13
  teenagers
• 20:13
  with
• 20:13
  their
• 20:14
  nose
• 20:14
  stuck
• 20:14
  in
• 20:14
  the
• 20:15
  phone
• 20:17
  is,
• 20:17
  and
• 20:18
  I,
• 20:19
  at,
• 20:19
  at
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  basic
• 20:20
  level,
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  have
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  understanding
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  there
• 20:22
  is
• 20:23
  no
• 20:23
  separation
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  that,
• 20:25
  that
• 20:26
  this
• 20:26
  individuality
• 20:27
  is
• 20:27
  an
• 20:27
  illusion.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:31
  how
• 20:32
  can
• 20:32
  we
• 20:32
  assist
• 20:33
  people
• 20:34
  in
• 20:34
  coming
• 20:34
  back
• 20:35
  to
• 20:36
  this
• 20:38
  non
• 20:38
  separate
• 20:40
  perception,
• 20:41
  Non
• 20:41
  separated
• 20:42
  experience?
• 20:43
  Well,
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  would
• 20:44
  say
• 20:44
  beyond
• 20:45
  beyond
• 20:45
  perception.
• 20:46
  Well,
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  things
• 20:47
  that
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  Buddha
• 20:47
  taught
• 20:48
  are
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  most
• 20:48
  effective
• 20:49
  by
• 20:49
  far.
• 20:49
  Meditation.
• 20:50
  All
• 20:51
  we're
• 20:51
  doing
• 20:51
  in
• 20:51
  meditation
• 20:52
  is
• 20:52
  inverting
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  awareness.
• 20:54
  Yeah,
• 20:54
  that's
• 20:54
  what
• 20:54
  a
• 20:54
  meditation
• 20:55
  is.
• 20:55
  We're
• 20:55
  inverting
• 20:56
  that
• 20:56
  awareness
• 20:56
  inside
• 20:57
  of
• 20:57
  ourselves.
• 20:58
  So.
• 20:59
  But
• 20:59
  there
• 21:00
  is
• 21:00
  difficult
• 21:00
  to
• 21:01
  do
• 21:01
  that.
• 21:01
  I've
• 21:01
  taught
• 21:02
  meditation
• 21:02
  now
• 21:02
  for
• 21:03
  25
• 21:03
  years.
• 21:04
  And
• 21:04
  so
• 21:04
  I
• 21:05
  know
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  difficulty
• 21:06
  that
• 21:06
  people
• 21:06
  have
• 21:06
  in
• 21:07
  doing,
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  it
• 21:07
  was
• 21:07
  difficult
• 21:08
  for
• 21:08
  me
• 21:08
  when
• 21:08
  I
• 21:09
  first
• 21:09
  began
• 21:09
  as
• 21:09
  well.
• 21:10
  But
• 21:11
  everyone,
• 21:13
  almost
• 21:14
  without
• 21:14
  exception
• 21:15
  comes
• 21:15
  to
• 21:15
  meditation
• 21:16
  running
• 21:16
  away
• 21:16
  from
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  stick.
• 21:18
  Something
• 21:18
  in
• 21:19
  their
• 21:19
  life
• 21:19
  hurts
• 21:21
  and
• 21:21
  it
• 21:21
  doesn't
• 21:21
  feel
• 21:22
  good.
• 21:22
  And
• 21:23
  so
• 21:23
  they
• 21:23
  want
• 21:23
  relief
• 21:24
  from
• 21:24
  that
• 21:24
  if
• 21:25
  they're
• 21:25
  persistent
• 21:26
  enough.
• 21:26
  To
• 21:26
  stay
• 21:26
  there
• 21:27
  long
• 21:27
  enough
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  they
• 21:28
  develop
• 21:29
  some
• 21:29
  proficiency
• 21:30
  with
• 21:30
  meditation,
• 21:31
  then
• 21:31
  they
• 21:31
  will
• 21:31
  get
• 21:32
  what
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  described
• 21:33
  as
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  bite
• 21:34
  of
• 21:34
  the
• 21:34
  apple.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  had
• 21:35
  a
• 21:36
  student
• 21:36
  that
• 21:36
  said,
• 21:36
  I
• 21:37
  don't
• 21:37
  care
• 21:37
  for
• 21:37
  an
• 21:37
  apple.
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  like
• 21:38
  lasagna.
• 21:39
  Okay,
• 21:39
  well,
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  got
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  bite
• 21:40
  of
• 21:41
  lasagna,
• 21:41
  it
• 21:41
  doesn't
• 21:41
  matter
• 21:42
  what
• 21:42
  you
• 21:42
  got.
• 21:42
  You
• 21:43
  got
• 21:43
  something
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  you
• 21:44
  like
• 21:44
  out
• 21:44
  of
• 21:44
  that,
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  it's
• 21:45
  at
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  moment
• 21:46
  your
• 21:46
  motivation
• 21:47
  transforms
• 21:47
  from
• 21:47
  running
• 21:48
  away
• 21:48
  from
• 21:48
  the
• 21:48
  stick
• 21:48
  to
• 21:49
  chasing
• 21:49
  the.
• 21:50
  The
• 21:50
  apple.
• 21:51
  Right.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:52
  so
• 21:52
  that's
• 21:52
  when
• 21:52
  you
• 21:53
  really
• 21:53
  begin
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  make
• 21:54
  significant
• 21:55
  progress
• 21:56
  with
• 21:56
  your
• 21:56
  meditation
• 21:57
  practice
• 21:58
  as
• 21:58
  well
• 21:58
  as
• 21:58
  the
• 21:59
  healing
• 21:59
  is
• 22:00
  what
• 22:00
  we're
• 22:00
  really
• 22:01
  looking
• 22:01
  for
• 22:02
  from
• 22:02
  these
• 22:02
  false
• 22:03
  perceptions
• 22:03
  of
• 22:04
  self
• 22:04
  and
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  liberation
• 22:06
  of
• 22:06
  that
• 22:06
  emotional
• 22:07
  baggage
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  you
• 22:08
  had
• 22:08
  alluded
• 22:08
  to
• 22:09
  right
• 22:09
  before.
• 22:10
  Emotional
• 22:11
  baggage
• 22:11
  is
• 22:11
  nothing
• 22:12
  more
• 22:12
  than
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  experiences
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  we
• 22:14
  have
• 22:14
  had
• 22:14
  during
• 22:14
  the
• 22:15
  course
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  our
• 22:15
  lifetime
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  we
• 22:16
  did
• 22:17
  not
• 22:17
  learn,
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  lessons
• 22:18
  that
• 22:18
  were
• 22:18
  brought
• 22:18
  to
• 22:18
  us
• 22:19
  in
• 22:19
  that
• 22:19
  experience.
• 22:20
  And
• 22:20
  so
• 22:21
  we
• 22:21
  get
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  keep
• 22:21
  that
• 22:22
  in
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  form
• 22:22
  of
• 22:22
  emotion.
• 22:23
  Yep,
• 22:23
  yep,
• 22:24
  yep.
• 22:25
  So
• 22:25
  in
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  manner
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  speaking,
• 22:26
  then,
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  answer
• 22:28
  is
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  invite
• 22:29
  these
• 22:29
  young
• 22:30
  people
• 22:30
  who've
• 22:31
  got
• 22:31
  their
• 22:31
  notes
• 22:31
  stuck
• 22:31
  in
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  phone
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  begin
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  interact
• 22:35
  with
• 22:35
  one
• 22:35
  another.
• 22:35
  Interact
• 22:36
  with.
• 22:36
  With
• 22:37
  one
• 22:37
  another,
• 22:37
  and
• 22:37
  yet
• 22:38
  also
• 22:38
  to
• 22:39
  attend
• 22:40
  to
• 22:41
  a
• 22:41
  meditative
• 22:42
  practice
• 22:43
  when
• 22:43
  ideally.
• 22:44
  Yes.
• 22:45
  Yeah.
• 22:45
  Okay.
• 22:46
  All
• 22:46
  right.
• 22:46
  And
• 22:47
  would
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  say
• 22:47
  that
• 22:47
  that's
• 22:48
  also
• 22:49
  for
• 22:50
  us
• 22:50
  adults
• 22:50
  who
• 22:51
  are
• 22:53
  working
• 22:53
  through
• 22:54
  our
• 22:54
  daily
• 22:54
  lives?
• 22:55
  Sure.
• 22:55
  You've
• 22:55
  been.
• 22:56
  As
• 22:56
  adults,
• 22:56
  we've
• 22:57
  just
• 22:57
  experienced
• 22:58
  more
• 22:58
  of
• 22:58
  what
• 22:58
  we
• 22:58
  don't
• 22:59
  like
• 22:59
  longer.
• 23:02
  So
• 23:02
  it's.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:03
  that's
• 23:03
  also
• 23:04
  where
• 23:04
  you
• 23:05
  come
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  this
• 23:06
  mindfulness
• 23:06
  practice.
• 23:07
  Absolutely.
• 23:07
  Mindfulness
• 23:08
  is.
• 23:08
  Is
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  misnomer,
• 23:09
  too.
• 23:09
  It's
• 23:10
  nothing
• 23:10
  more.
• 23:10
  Right.
• 23:11
  Then
• 23:11
  having
• 23:12
  developed
• 23:12
  a
• 23:12
  meditative
• 23:13
  practice
• 23:13
  and
• 23:14
  learning
• 23:14
  how
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  take
• 23:15
  that
• 23:15
  frame
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  mind,
• 23:16
  that
• 23:16
  experience
• 23:16
  of
• 23:17
  being
• 23:17
  in
• 23:17
  meditation
• 23:18
  with
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  back
• 23:18
  into
• 23:18
  the
• 23:19
  village
• 23:20
  so
• 23:20
  that
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  maintain
• 23:21
  that
• 23:22
  perception
• 23:22
  of.
• 23:23
  Of
• 23:23
  separateness
• 23:24
  from
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  problems
• 23:25
  of
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  village
• 23:25
  while
• 23:26
  you're.
• 23:26
  You're
• 23:27
  still
• 23:27
  maintaining
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  mindset
• 23:29
  of
• 23:29
  being
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  guru's
• 23:30
  cave.
• 23:31
  Okay,
• 23:33
  so
• 23:34
  I've
• 23:34
  been
• 23:34
  talking
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  lot.
• 23:35
  Adam,
• 23:35
  do
• 23:35
  you
• 23:35
  have
• 23:35
  anything?
• 23:36
  13?
• 23:37
  Yeah.
• 23:37
  One
• 23:37
  of
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  biggest
• 23:38
  things
• 23:38
  that
• 23:39
  comes
• 23:39
  up
• 23:39
  for
• 23:39
  me
• 23:39
  is
• 23:40
  when
• 23:41
  we're
• 23:41
  talking
• 23:41
  about
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  meditation
• 23:42
  and
• 23:43
  we're
• 23:43
  talking
• 23:43
  about
• 23:44
  bringing
• 23:44
  it
• 23:45
  back
• 23:45
  into
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  village
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  service
• 23:46
  to
• 23:47
  others
• 23:47
  is
• 23:48
  really
• 23:48
  enlivening.
• 23:49
  It
• 23:49
  reminds
• 23:50
  me
• 23:50
  of
• 23:51
  when
• 23:52
  Confucius,
• 23:53
  a
• 23:53
  student,
• 23:54
  came
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  Confucius
• 23:54
  and
• 23:55
  asked
• 23:55
  him,
• 23:55
  confucius,
• 23:56
  Confucius,
• 23:57
  what
• 23:57
  happens
• 23:58
  after
• 23:58
  death?
• 23:59
  Confucius
• 24:00
  told
• 24:00
  him,
• 24:00
  you
• 24:01
  don't
• 24:01
  yet
• 24:01
  know
• 24:02
  life.
• 24:03
  Why
• 24:03
  are
• 24:03
  you
• 24:03
  asking
• 24:03
  about
• 24:04
  after
• 24:04
  death?
• 24:05
  Yeah.
• 24:05
  So
• 24:06
  when
• 24:06
  we're
• 24:06
  talking
• 24:06
  about
• 24:07
  this
• 24:07
  meditation,
• 24:07
  there's
• 24:08
  so
• 24:08
  much
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  our
• 24:09
  own
• 24:09
  internal
• 24:09
  mind
• 24:09
  that
• 24:10
  we
• 24:10
  have
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  work
• 24:10
  through
• 24:10
  and
• 24:11
  patterns
• 24:11
  we
• 24:11
  have
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  understand
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  be
• 24:13
  of
• 24:13
  better
• 24:13
  service
• 24:13
  to
• 24:14
  other
• 24:14
  people.
• 24:15
  And
• 24:15
  there's
• 24:15
  so
• 24:16
  much
• 24:16
  for
• 24:16
  us
• 24:16
  to
• 24:16
  learn
• 24:16
  in
• 24:17
  that
• 24:17
  path.
• 24:18
  And
• 24:18
  that
• 24:18
  when
• 24:19
  you're,
• 24:19
  when
• 24:19
  you're
• 24:19
  speaking
• 24:19
  to
• 24:20
  those
• 24:20
  points
• 24:20
  is
• 24:20
  really
• 24:21
  enlivening.
• 24:21
  I
• 24:22
  appreciate
• 24:22
  you.
• 24:22
  So
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  just
• 24:23
  wanted
• 24:23
  to
• 24:23
  say
• 24:23
  that.
• 24:24
  Yeah,
• 24:24
  good.
• 24:24
  Thank
• 24:25
  you.
• 24:26
  Well,
• 24:26
  understand
• 24:27
  that
• 24:27
  our
• 24:28
  authentic
• 24:28
  self
• 24:29
  is
• 24:30
  already
• 24:31
  stress
• 24:31
  free.
• 24:31
  It
• 24:32
  is
• 24:32
  always
• 24:32
  already
• 24:33
  blissful.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  it
• 24:34
  is
• 24:34
  only
• 24:34
  our
• 24:35
  creation
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  this
• 24:36
  false
• 24:36
  perception
• 24:37
  of
• 24:37
  self
• 24:37
  that
• 24:38
  perpetuates
• 24:38
  our
• 24:38
  stress.
• 24:39
  But
• 24:40
  we
• 24:40
  have
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  learn
• 24:41
  what
• 24:41
  we
• 24:41
  don't
• 24:41
  like
• 24:41
  in
• 24:42
  order
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  know
• 24:42
  what
• 24:42
  we
• 24:42
  do
• 24:43
  like
• 24:43
  when
• 24:43
  we
• 24:43
  encounter
• 24:44
  it.
• 24:44
  If
• 24:45
  you
• 24:45
  decided
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  chocolate
• 24:46
  ice
• 24:46
  cream
• 24:47
  is
• 24:47
  your
• 24:47
  favorite
• 24:48
  flavor
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  ice
• 24:48
  cream,
• 24:49
  in
• 24:49
  order
• 24:49
  to
• 24:49
  determine
• 24:50
  that
• 24:50
  you
• 24:51
  had
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  taste
• 24:51
  most
• 24:52
  of
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  other
• 24:52
  149
• 24:53
  other
• 24:53
  flavors
• 24:54
  available
• 24:54
  to
• 24:54
  you
• 24:54
  in
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  ice
• 24:55
  cream
• 24:55
  store.
• 24:56
  We
• 24:56
  just
• 24:56
  had
• 24:56
  this
• 24:57
  debate
• 24:57
  on
• 24:57
  our
• 24:57
  previous
• 24:58
  maybe
• 24:59
  two,
• 24:59
  two
• 25:00
  interviews
• 25:00
  ago
• 25:00
  with
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  Sonoma
• 25:01
  State
• 25:01
  Philosophy
• 25:02
  Club
• 25:02
  and
• 25:02
  one
• 25:03
  of
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  students
• 25:03
  actually
• 25:03
  put
• 25:04
  it,
• 25:04
  made
• 25:04
  a
• 25:04
  clip
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  this
• 25:04
  and
• 25:05
  put
• 25:05
  it
• 25:05
  onto
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  social
• 25:05
  media,
• 25:06
  different
• 25:07
  social
• 25:07
  medias
• 25:07
  at
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  way
• 25:08
  between.
• 25:08
  But
• 25:09
  he
• 25:09
  said,
• 25:10
  well,
• 25:10
  you
• 25:10
  know,
• 25:10
  I
• 25:11
  don't.
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  love
• 25:11
  chocolate
• 25:12
  ice
• 25:12
  cream.
• 25:12
  Do
• 25:12
  I
• 25:12
  really
• 25:12
  need
• 25:13
  to
• 25:13
  taste
• 25:13
  shoe
• 25:14
  flavored
• 25:14
  ice
• 25:14
  cream
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  know
• 25:15
  that
• 25:15
  I
• 25:15
  like
• 25:15
  chocolate?
• 25:17
  We
• 25:17
  had
• 25:18
  the
• 25:18
  counterpoint.
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  So
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  think
• 25:22
  we're
• 25:22
  coming
• 25:22
  to
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  end
• 25:23
  of
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  show
• 25:23
  and
• 25:24
  is
• 25:24
  there.
• 25:26
  If
• 25:26
  there
• 25:26
  was
• 25:27
  just
• 25:27
  one
• 25:27
  thing
• 25:27
  that
• 25:28
  you
• 25:28
  had
• 25:28
  to
• 25:28
  offer
• 25:28
  to
• 25:29
  our
• 25:29
  listeners
• 25:30
  about
• 25:32
  this
• 25:33
  path
• 25:34
  that
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  are
• 25:37
  offering
• 25:37
  us,
• 25:38
  what
• 25:38
  would
• 25:38
  that
• 25:38
  be?
• 25:39
  Well,
• 25:40
  my,
• 25:41
  my
• 25:41
  recommendation
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  people
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  begin
• 25:43
  as
• 25:44
  well
• 25:44
  as
• 25:44
  to
• 25:44
  further
• 25:45
  themselves
• 25:46
  is
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  follow
• 25:47
  Mahatma
• 25:48
  Gandhi's
• 25:49
  admission
• 25:49
  to
• 25:51
  be
• 25:51
  the
• 25:51
  change
• 25:51
  that
• 25:52
  you
• 25:52
  want
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  see
• 25:52
  in
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  world.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:53
  as
• 25:54
  you
• 25:54
  do
• 25:54
  that,
• 25:54
  then
• 25:55
  you
• 25:55
  will
• 25:55
  bring
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  you
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  experiences
• 25:57
  that
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  need
• 25:57
  in
• 25:58
  order
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  further
• 25:59
  your
• 25:59
  capacity
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  service
• 26:00
  to
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  world
• 26:01
  as
• 26:01
  being
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  also
• 26:03
  your
• 26:04
  success
• 26:04
  in.
• 26:04
  In
• 26:05
  changing
• 26:05
  the
• 26:05
  world.
• 26:08
  Ah,
• 26:09
  this
• 26:09
  has
• 26:09
  been
• 26:10
  quite
• 26:10
  a.
• 26:10
  Quite
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  conversation.
• 26:12
  Any.
• 26:13
  Do
• 26:13
  you
• 26:13
  have
• 26:13
  anything,
• 26:14
  Adam,
• 26:14
  before
• 26:14
  we're
• 26:14
  done?
• 26:15
  No.
• 26:16
  Those
• 26:16
  are
• 26:16
  great
• 26:16
  words
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  end
• 26:17
  on.
• 26:17
  Oh,
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  will
• 26:18
  say,
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  will
• 26:18
  say
• 26:18
  that
• 26:18
  Dr.
• 26:19
  Wu,
• 26:19
  our
• 26:20
  teacher
• 26:20
  and
• 26:20
  mentor
• 26:21
  did
• 26:21
  mention
• 26:22
  this
• 26:22
  in
• 26:22
  terms
• 26:23
  of
• 26:23
  having
• 26:23
  a
• 26:24
  concerned
• 26:24
  mind
• 26:25
  that
• 26:25
  you
• 26:25
  live
• 26:26
  your
• 26:26
  life
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  have
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  concerned
• 26:27
  mind
• 26:27
  for
• 26:27
  others
• 26:27
  and
• 26:28
  for
• 26:28
  this
• 26:28
  world.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:29
  when
• 26:29
  you're
• 26:29
  acting
• 26:29
  out
• 26:29
  of
• 26:29
  that
• 26:30
  concerned
• 26:30
  mind,
• 26:31
  then
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  think
• 26:31
  Dean
• 26:32
  makes
• 26:32
  the
• 26:32
  point
• 26:32
  that
• 26:33
  you
• 26:33
  know,
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  be
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  change
• 26:34
  you
• 26:34
  want
• 26:34
  to
• 26:35
  be
• 26:35
  the
• 26:36
  change
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  want
• 26:36
  to
• 26:36
  see
• 26:36
  in
• 26:36
  this
• 26:37
  world,
• 26:37
  you
• 26:37
  have
• 26:38
  a
• 26:38
  concerned
• 26:38
  mind
• 26:38
  for
• 26:39
  other
• 26:39
  people
• 26:39
  and
• 26:40
  you
• 26:40
  see
• 26:41
  what
• 26:41
  needs
• 26:41
  to
• 26:42
  be
• 26:42
  worked
• 26:42
  on
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  you
• 26:43
  work
• 26:43
  on
• 26:43
  it
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  yourself.
• 26:44
  Excellent.
• 26:45
  Yes.
• 26:45
  Yep.
• 26:47
  Well,
• 26:47
  I'm
• 26:48
  Anthony
• 26:48
  Wright
• 26:48
  and
• 26:49
  I've
• 26:49
  been
• 26:49
  your
• 26:49
  host
• 26:49
  today
• 26:50
  on
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  Living
• 26:51
  Conversation
• 26:51
  with
• 26:51
  my
• 26:52
  co
• 26:52
  host
• 26:52
  Adam
• 26:53
  Dietz.
• 26:53
  And
• 26:53
  our
• 26:54
  guest
• 26:54
  is
• 26:55
  Dean
• 26:55
  Graves.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:56
  how
• 26:56
  can
• 26:56
  people
• 26:56
  contact
• 26:56
  you,
• 26:57
  Dean?
• 26:58
  On
• 26:58
  my
• 26:58
  website,
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  initial
• 26:59
  D
• 27:00
  dean
• 27:00
  Graves,
• 27:01
  all1word.org
• 27:02
  and
• 27:03
  all
• 27:03
  my
• 27:04
  books
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  pad
• 27:04
  Kaiser
• 27:05
  listed
• 27:06
  there.
• 27:06
  Great.
• 27:07
  Well,
• 27:07
  I
• 27:08
  really
• 27:08
  appreciate
• 27:09
  your
• 27:09
  being
• 27:10
  here
• 27:10
  with
• 27:10
  us
• 27:11
  and
• 27:12
  appreciate
• 27:13
  everyone
• 27:14
  who
• 27:14
  has
• 27:14
  tuned
• 27:14
  in
• 27:15
  and
• 27:16
  thanks
• 27:16
  for
• 27:16
  listening
• 27:17
  and
• 27:17
  we'll
• 27:17
  see
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  next
• 27:18
  time.