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Another American Hostage Home plus USAID Sending Millions to Hamas & Trump and Elon Detail More Outrageous Spending · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It is so fun to start Verdict with good news
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  Speaker 1: and welcome. It is Verdict for Center, Ted Cruz, Ben
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson with you and Senator We have got incredible news
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  Speaker 1: that a hostage coming out of Russia has been released.
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  Speaker 1: This is incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yet another American hostage has come home. Mark Fogel, who
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  Speaker 2: has been in Russian jail since twenty twenty one, returned
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  Speaker 2: home to the United States this week Thursday night. Late
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, he was in the Oval Office with President Trump.
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  Speaker 2: This is a big victory bringing American hostages home. It's
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  Speaker 2: a continuation of the Venezuelan hostages that were brought home
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  Speaker 2: the first week President Trump was back in office and
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  Speaker 2: the Hamas hostages both Americans and Israelis that have been
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  Speaker 2: released since President Trump has been in office. Yet another
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  Speaker 2: hostage release. This is the consequence of a strong commander
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  Speaker 2: in chief who our enemies are afraid of. That's a
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  Speaker 2: big victory for everyone. On top of that, we also
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  Speaker 2: have yet more breaking news of USAID funding millions and
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars that is going to terrorists that funded Hamas,
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  Speaker 2: that funded terrorists that that did enormous damage to US
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  Speaker 2: national security interests. And put money in the pockets of
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  Speaker 2: those who were who were attempting to murder and succeeded
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  Speaker 2: in murdering Israelis and Americans. And finally, today Elon Musk
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  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump were in the Oval Office together. The
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  Speaker 2: President this week signed an executive order implementing doja's recommendations,
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  Speaker 2: and they detailed yet more incredible examples of abusive waste, fraud,
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  Speaker 2: and abuse, including astonishingly enough people receiving Social Security benefits
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  Speaker 2: who are allegedly one hundred and fifty years old. Spoiler alert,
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  Speaker 2: ain't one hundred and fifty all of that on today's show.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to take a moment and talk to you
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  Speaker 1: real quick about the incredible work that's being done by
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  Speaker 1: incredible story about this hostage, Mark Fogel. It was an
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  Speaker 1: American detained in Russia from August of twenty twenty one
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  Speaker 1: until February eleventh of twenty twenty five. Donald Trump becomes
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  Speaker 1: president and he gets him out.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: He was arrested in Russia at a Russian airport for
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  Speaker 2: the possession of drugs, which which has family said was
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  Speaker 2: medically prescribed marijuana. And Fogel was a history teacher who
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  Speaker 2: was working at the Anglo American school in Moscow, and
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  Speaker 2: he was arrested and and he he came home. And
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  Speaker 2: when he came home, it's snowing in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of snow on the ground. And he
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  Speaker 2: came out of the snow to come into the Oval
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  Speaker 2: Office to be with President Trump. And I got to say,
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  Speaker 2: it was powerful. It was amazing the scene of the
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  Speaker 2: two of them in the Oval Office.
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  Speaker 3: Here, give a listen.
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  Speaker 4: He's a very happy guy tonight. It's just a real honor,
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  Speaker 4: an honored ab at the ways.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the luckiest man on earth right now.
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  Speaker 5: And I want you to know that I am not
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  Speaker 5: a hero in this at all. And President Trump, this
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  Speaker 5: is a hero. These men that came from the diplomatic
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  Speaker 5: service are heroes. The senators and representatives of past legislation
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  Speaker 5: in my honor to get me home are the heroes.
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  Speaker 5: I am in awe of what they all did. My
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  Speaker 5: family has been a force. I think my ninety five
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  Speaker 5: year old mother is probably the most dynamic ninety five
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  Speaker 5: year old on earth right now, and I am so
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  Speaker 5: indebted to so many people. I think I remember a
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  Speaker 5: Churchill quote that he said when the ref was fighting
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  Speaker 5: the liftoff, and he said that never have so many
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  Speaker 5: owed so much to so few. And I put myself,
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  Speaker 5: fortunately and unfortunately into that category, and I said, never
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  Speaker 5: has won so much to so many. That this superorganism
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  Speaker 5: of people that came to my support and the love
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  Speaker 5: that I was given sustained me for three and a
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  Speaker 5: half years in a prison that had me in hospitals
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  Speaker 5: for more than one hundred days. I was given more
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  Speaker 5: than four hundred injections.
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  Speaker 4: In that time.
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  Speaker 5: And knowing I had the support of my fellow Pennsylvanians,
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  Speaker 5: my family, my friends, it was so overwhelming that it
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  Speaker 5: brought me to my knees and it brought me to tears.
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  Speaker 4: But it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was my energy, it was my being that kept
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  Speaker 5: me going that whole time. And I will forever be
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  Speaker 5: indebted President Trump to Steve over there. What a dynamic
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  Speaker 5: man this guy is. When I met him, the energy,
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  Speaker 5: the can do attitude just exudes from his body. And
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  Speaker 5: when he smiled at me and introduced me, and I
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  Speaker 5: got the feel for what has happened. You know, it's
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  Speaker 5: not just me, it's his everybody and Secretary Rubio, who
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  Speaker 5: met my son a while back.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a.
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  Speaker 5: Middle class school teacher who's now in a.
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  Speaker 4: Dream world. We're going to show you the Lincoln bit.
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  Speaker 6: It's very special, special place appropriate for very appropriate.
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  Speaker 5: And thank you all. And I love our country and
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  Speaker 5: I'm so happy to be back here. And I wish
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  Speaker 5: I could articulate it better.
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  Speaker 4: You've done beautifully. And he's got a great mother.
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  Speaker 6: And when I show the mother at a rally, she said,
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  Speaker 6: will you if you win, will you get my son out?
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  Speaker 4: And I promise. She's ninety five years old and we'll
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  Speaker 4: get him out. And we got him out pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 5: She told me that that exact words.
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  Speaker 4: Remember, she's made quite an impression.
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  Speaker 5: And you also did.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna know of what you've done and your team.
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  Speaker 4: It's great to have you back. And I have a
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  Speaker 4: great life.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That that that's just amazingly powerful. And and you think
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  Speaker 2: about Mark Folo's life has been transformed, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: transformed because Donald Trump is a strong commander in chief
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  Speaker 2: and Putin is afraid of him. Venezuela is afraid of him,
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  Speaker 2: Hamas is afraid of him, and and and that that
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  Speaker 2: that pattern is significant. Look, hostage negotiations are always complicated
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  Speaker 2: and difficult, and and that's the difference we have. You
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  Speaker 2: think about in three weeks to see so many American
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  Speaker 2: hostages released, that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings me to the question. And it's frustrating. I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those I want to be a very queer center.
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  Speaker 1: I'm frustrated. This makes me angry that you look at
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Mark, you you look at how sincere
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  Speaker 1: his love is for this country, how thankful he is
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  Speaker 1: to see the light of day again in America, to
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  Speaker 1: be out of hell in Russia, and the way that
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  Speaker 1: we know they treat people in Russia. He talked in
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  Speaker 1: that in that clip about how many days he's spent
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  Speaker 1: in the high hospital, how many injections he received, And
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  Speaker 1: the reality is many people don't make it out alive
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  Speaker 1: once you go into the prison system in Russia. And
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  Speaker 1: there's an anger I think by not just me, but
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  Speaker 1: I think probably many people listening. They're saying, how is
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  Speaker 1: it that Biden Harris didn't get these people out? It's
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  Speaker 1: not just him, it's the others you just mentioned. But
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  Speaker 1: it's like, did they just not fight hard enough? Do
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  Speaker 1: they just not give a damn? Because Donald Trump just
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  Speaker 1: did it? And I think this is something that outrages
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  Speaker 1: me and many others.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think it's fair to say that
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  Speaker 2: that Biden didn't give a damn.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I will say during his presidency that there was some
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  Speaker 2: hostages who returned home. Mark Swedan, who was a Texan
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  Speaker 2: who was wrongfully imprisoned in China for over ten years.
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  Speaker 2: I was very very active pressing for Swedan's return. Look, look,
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  Speaker 2: when you're dealing with hostages, it is always complicated. It
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  Speaker 2: is always difficult. I've been involved in seeking and helping
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  Speaker 2: get the return of multiple high hostages over the past decade.
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  Speaker 2: What I would say is the reason that Mark Fogel
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  Speaker 2: wasn't returned, and then that these hostages were not released
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  Speaker 2: under Biden is that our enemies viewed Biden as a
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  Speaker 2: weak commander in chief and that they were weak. That
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  Speaker 2: they were not They were not afraid of him. Putin
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  Speaker 2: was not afraid of Biden. Hamas was not afraid of Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Venezuela Maduro was not afraid of Biden and all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's take an example. Let's take an example this week
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  Speaker 2: where Hamas is delaying some of the Israeli hostages, and
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  Speaker 2: give a listen to Trump explaining what will happen if
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  Speaker 2: they don't release the hostages by Saturday at noon.
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  Speaker 3: Give a listen.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I would say this, and I'm going to let
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  Speaker 7: that because that's Israel's decision. But as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 7: if all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at
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  Speaker 7: twelve o'clock, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say,
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  Speaker 7: cancel it, and all bets are off and let hell
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  Speaker 7: break out. I'd say they ought to be returned by
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  Speaker 7: twelve o'clock on Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: And if they're not returned, all of them, not in
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  Speaker 6: drips and drabs, not two and one and three and
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  Speaker 6: four and two Saturday at twelve o'clock, and after that,
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  Speaker 6: I would say, all hell is going to break out.
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  Speaker 3: There's something interesting he said there.
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  Speaker 1: He said, this is my opinion, and then he basically
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  Speaker 1: said that gave some room there for Israel to pivot.
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  Speaker 1: We now know there is no pivot needed. Net and Yah,
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  Speaker 1: who has come out saying the same exact thing, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's clear that our strongest ally we are getting their
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  Speaker 1: back and we are one again on this on this front,
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  Speaker 1: that is good for both countries well.
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  Speaker 2: And look, both Prime Minister net Yeah who and President
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  Speaker 2: Trump are very focused on bringing the hostages home. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, I spent two hours with BB on Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night and then I had dinner with Trump on Friday night,
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  Speaker 2: So I've seen both of them within the last few days.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say BB echoed exactly that message that
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  Speaker 2: came from Trump, which is if the hostages are not
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  Speaker 2: released by noon on Saturday, all of the hostages, that
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  Speaker 2: the ceasefire is over and Israel will return to eliminating
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  Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorist. And I think that is the way
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  Speaker 2: you get hostages released from a position of strength, and
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing strength from the commander in chief.
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  Speaker 1: Final question on this and that is when you look forward.
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  Speaker 1: There are still other Americans I know that are around
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  Speaker 1: the country, around the world say being held.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a.
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  Speaker 1: Trend you expect to continue because of the difference in leadership.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Look, look, a strong commander in chief. When our
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  Speaker 2: enemies are afraid of the president, Americans are safer, Americans
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  Speaker 2: are at less risk because the bad guys, the terrorists,
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  Speaker 2: those who want to take hostages have less confidence they
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  Speaker 2: can succeed, and that is a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: I want to move to USAID and some of the
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  Speaker 1: big issues that are now coming out of that, and
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  Speaker 1: it deals also with the issue of terrorism. We got
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  Speaker 1: some shocking news that has come out. It's something, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, that I think we need to point out
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  Speaker 1: very clearly. You had been talking about this now for
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  Speaker 1: several years in Congress and on this show. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: thank goodness, now at least all of it seems to
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  Speaker 1: be being exposed because of the digging with Doge and
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  Speaker 1: the Trump administration back in office.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was a lengthy tweet that I sent this
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  Speaker 2: week that said the following. The full story of USAID
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  Speaker 2: funding HAMAS is vast, and much of it was done
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  Speaker 2: in secret. Before and after October seventh, the USAID flowed
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  Speaker 2: unaccountable hundreds of millions of dollars towards HAMAS that enabled
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  Speaker 2: it to launch the attack and keep battling Israel afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: They lied about the nature of that aid in public databases,
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  Speaker 2: refused to disclose what group were getting the money, and
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  Speaker 2: gave tens of millions in American cash to be distributed
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  Speaker 2: without American supervision. They internally admitted the aid would benefit
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  Speaker 2: HAMAS and even exempted themselves from anti terrorism laws, but
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  Speaker 2: in public issued denial for all four years of the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration, I prevented them from confirming a Middle East
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  Speaker 2: Administrator because they wouldn't acknowledge what they were doing, because
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  Speaker 2: continuing their secret pro HAMAS programs was more important to them.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you there was a major article in
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  Speaker 2: the Washington Free Beacon that I tweeted out as well,
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  Speaker 2: and it's an article My team and I provided a
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  Speaker 2: significant amount of the information to the Washington Free Beacon,
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  Speaker 2: but it's entitled at USAID funding for terroritied groups and
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  Speaker 2: internal hostility towards Israel goes back years. One former State
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  Speaker 2: Department official described a lack of embarrassment among some USAID
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  Speaker 2: staffers about being associated with terrorist organization. And I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to read from the beginning of this article because it's
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  Speaker 2: an important article and the fact Senate are very disturbing
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  Speaker 2: as the Trump administration works to shutter the United States
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  Speaker 2: Agency for International Development USAID, Current and former US officials
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  Speaker 2: who work closely with the unbattled AID group say they
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  Speaker 2: watched for years as it funneled millions of dollars to
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  Speaker 2: anti Israel advocacy groups and entities linked to terrorism. That
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  Speaker 2: funding caused internal friction across multiple administrations, according to those
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  Speaker 2: who spoke with The Washington Free Beacon. In some cases,
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  Speaker 2: USAID fought to conceal how taxpayer funds were spent, and
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  Speaker 2: when it came to Israel, officials recalled battling USAID over
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  Speaker 2: funding for groups that worked to undermine the Jewish state
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  Speaker 2: or maintain.
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  Speaker 3: Ties to terror organizations. Quote.
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  Speaker 2: For those who believe in a strong US Israel relationship,
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  Speaker 2: elements of USAID had been problematic for years, said one
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  Speaker 2: former State Department official who worked with USAID during the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration.
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  Speaker 3: Quote.
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  Speaker 2: There was even a lack of embarrassment among some USAID
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  Speaker 2: staffers about being associated with terrorist organizations. Some of the
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  Speaker 2: terror tied funding initiatives are publicly known. In November twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, for instance, USAID awarded one hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: to a Palestinian activist group whose leaders hailed the Popular
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  Speaker 2: Front for the Liberation of Palestine a designated terror group,
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  Speaker 2: just six days before Hamas's October seventh assault. On Israel,
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  Speaker 2: USAID handed nine hundred thousand dollars to a terror charitor
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  Speaker 2: charity in Gaza involved with the son of Hamas leader
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  Speaker 2: Ismail Hanayer. USAID's hostilities towards the Jewish State, however, ran
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  Speaker 2: deeper than the agency's grant making. Under Samantha Power, former
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  Speaker 2: President Joe Biden's pick to run USAID, agency officials fought
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  Speaker 2: pro Israel policy making at the State Department, often urging
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  Speaker 2: their colleagues at Foggy Bottom to pare down statements that
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  Speaker 2: praise the Jewish state, former official said in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: during a period of conflict with Hamas, Power herself refused
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  Speaker 2: to meet with Israel's ambassador unless Israel reached a cease
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  Speaker 2: fire with the Iran backed terror group. The decision put
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  Speaker 2: Power at odds with the White House National Security Council,
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  Speaker 2: which signed off on the meeting. Emails obtained by the
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  Speaker 2: Freebeacon Show.
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  Speaker 1: It is shocking to hear you read that, and yet
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  Speaker 1: it's so well documented. It's something that you've been sounding
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  Speaker 1: the alarm on for a while. Now, because of a
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  Speaker 1: new administration, we're actually getting some movement on this. But
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  Speaker 1: how angry should Americans be that their tax dours have
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  Speaker 1: been going to terrorist organizations through these funneled through these
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  Speaker 1: charities and other groups. And there were warnings meaning that
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  Speaker 1: the government, Biden Harris and their team, they knew the
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  Speaker 1: money was ending up with these people. This wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: one office, wasn't an accident. This was deliberate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they knew it and they actively hit it. Let
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  Speaker 2: me read a little more from this Freebeacon article. A
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  Speaker 2: January memo from the Inspector General Paul Martin noted that
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  Speaker 2: the agency quote does not maintain a comprehensive internal database
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  Speaker 2: of sub awardees. In other words, the foreign entities that
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  Speaker 2: work with a primary grantee on a USAID project often
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  Speaker 2: go unreported, impeding the ability of the agency investigators to
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  Speaker 2: vet fraud allegations. According to the memo, such allegations often
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  Speaker 2: include the diversion of taxpayer funded aid to terrorist organizations,
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  Speaker 2: and a November report, for example, Martin quote identified deliberate
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  Speaker 2: interference and efforts to divert humanitarian assistance by foreign terrorist organizations,
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  Speaker 2: including systemic coercion of aid workers by fdos, foreign terrorist organizations,
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  Speaker 2: and FTO influence over beneficiary selection. These diversion efforts are
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  Speaker 2: particularly pronounced in Hamas controlled Gaza. A February report from
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East Forum think tank found that the USAID
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  Speaker 2: had awarded millions of dollars to organizations directly in Gaza
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  Speaker 2: controlled by Hamas. Let me read that again. A February
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  Speaker 2: report from the Middle East Forum think tank found that
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  Speaker 2: USAID had awarded millions of federal dollars to organizations directly
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza controlled by Hamas, and it continues. In one
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  Speaker 2: bideneric case, USAID funded an educational and community center in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza quote, controlled by a local group called the Unlimited
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  Speaker 2: Friends Association. The association openly collaborated with Hamas, inviting the
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  Speaker 2: terror group's officials to its office and boasting of US
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  Speaker 2: funded projects in Hamas controlled newspapers. In twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: its director called for Jerusalem to be cleansed, quote from
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  Speaker 2: the impurity of the Jews. This is who Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: and the Democrats were sending millions of dollars to, and
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  Speaker 2: this is who they were covering it up.
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  Speaker 1: Not only were they covering it up, but this has
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  Speaker 1: a USAID has a long history that's now well documented
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  Speaker 1: of them helping radicals and one of the things you
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  Speaker 1: and I talked about before the show was another just
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  Speaker 1: totally in saying aspect of this and that included paying
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: for terrorists college funds.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that is exactly right, and it is a stunning story.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So this is something that's been reported in Fox News
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and the New York Post. Here's what the New York
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Post said. USAID reportedly bankrolled al Qaeda terrorist college tuition.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Unearthed record showed USAID American bord jahattist anwar all Illachi
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: received full funding to attend Colorado State University in nineteen ninety.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: USAID documents obtained by Fox News showed, now who is
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: on wear al Lachi. He is a notorious terrorist, so
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: notorious that President Barack Obama ordered him killed in a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: US air strike in Yemen twenty years later. The documents
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: revealed that all Alacki, who was born in Las Cruces,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: New Mexico, lied on his application and claimed that he
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: was born in Yemen, apparently so he would be eligible
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: for the federal tuition funding worth more than twenty seven
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars at the time.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: That was nineteen ninety.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Tuition and fees for an international student at the university
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: today would be nearly ten times that using the education
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: USAID provided him, he earned a bachelor's in civil engineering
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. Alilaki would go on to teach
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Islam at mosques across the country, from Denver to San
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Diego and Virginia, where US officials believe he used his
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: platform to radicalize and recruit terrorists and understand Olilaki is
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: directly implicated in number one. At the San Diego mosque,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: he met the nine to eleven hijackers, Nawaf al Hazmi
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and Khalid al Midhar, two of the men who flew
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Flight seventy seven into the Pentagon on nine to eleven,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and he was arrested in two thousand and six for
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: his terrorist ties in Yemen, and three years later, unwell,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Alolaki communicated with Nadal Hassan, who murdered fourteen innocent souls
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: at Fort Hood on Wile. Ololaki was also tied to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the underwear bomber Umar faruk Abda Matullab, who tried to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: blow up a Detroit bound Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Day two thousand and nine with bombs hidden in his shorts.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: This is who USI AID said, you know what we're
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: going to pay for you to get a college degree?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: What in the hell are these people doing?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So the question that I got to ask finally on
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: this to wrap it up and people that are listening
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and say, number one, how did this a happen? But
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: even more so, how are people not going to jail
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: for knowingly giving American taxpayer dollars to terrorists? I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: if you are working in our government, even if it's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: under the direction the Biden Harrish regime at the time,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and you're sending out money that you know is going
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to terrorists around the world, is that not like breaking
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: some law?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Senator, Well, look, that's a question that I think is
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: going to have to be investigated and examined. You know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I will say, US anti terrorism laws prohibit sending money
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that goes to terrorism. And in fact, the Biden administration
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: made a formal assessment and they concluded that sending the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: money to Gaza, that it was very likely that money
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: would be used by Hamas for terrorism. Now, ordinarily, when
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you make that determination under American anti terrorism law, you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: don't send the money. You can't send the money once
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you determine that it's likely it'll go to terrorism. However,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the way the law is written, the president has the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: authority to waive that provision. And that's exactly what they did,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: because they made a determination that their radical politics were
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: more important than stopping terrorists from murdering American citizens and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: murdering Israeli citizens, and tragic, the entire world saw the
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: consequences of that radicalism on October seventh.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think there will be any accountability for this
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: or is this going to be another one of those
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: where hey, we were in charge, so we get we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: got away with it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Look, I certainly hope there will be accountability.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But at a minimum, we're seeing accountability in President Trump
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and Elon Musk shutting down these programs at USAID.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I think that is very good.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And my hope and expectations is that Congress will come
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: along and we will pass legislation, presumably as a part
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of budget reconciliation later this year, to codify these cuts
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and eliminate the waste fraud abuse.
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, the corruption and what the President's
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  Speaker 1: going to clean it up. Let's move to another aspect
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of just an incredible three weeks where Elon Musk and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump are doing exactly what they said they were
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: going to do, and they are i think using the media,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the bully pulpit, the microphone that they've been given in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the Oval Office to inform the American people, those that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: voted for him and others that maybe didn't, that hey,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we're finding some of the most ridiculous, egregious waste of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: your tax dollars. And one of the stories they talked
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: about was people that are still getting sid Security checks
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: when they're quote one hundred and fifty years old.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really powerful. So President Trump and Elon
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Musk did a press conference from the Oval Office on Thursday.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Earlier this week, President Trump signed an executive order instructing
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: DOGE to coordinate with federal agencies and to execute massive
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: cuts in federal government staffing numbers. And the order instructs
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: federal agencies and DOGE to significantly shrink the size of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the federal government and to limit the hiring of new employees.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And I got to say, Elon Musk laid out several
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: of the egregious examples of abuse.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Listen to listen to this first one.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: You know, and that's the crazy things like just crostory
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: examination of Social Security. And we've got people in there
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: at one hundred and fifty years old.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Now do you know anyone one hundred and fifty? I
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: do are okay?
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: They should be on the Guinness Wicker World records. They're
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: messing out, so you know that's the case. We're I
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: think they're probably dead, that's my guess. Or the should
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: be very famous.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: One of the two.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to meet him. Anyone wants to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: meet him. The President wants to meet him. You want
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to meet him, right, if you're one hundred and fifty
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and you're still check.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Ben Ben I got to say, you don't look at
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: day over one hundred and forty CA.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, and this is the stuff that you just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: can't even make it up. Of course, they would be
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: sitting a check to somebody that we assume is just
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is committing fraud here right like this check's ever stopped
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and I just keep cashing them.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Stupid your center fraud. Of course it's fraud. And the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Biden administration had no interest in uncovering that fraud. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: take a listen to what President Trump said about the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: magnitude of the waste fraud and abuse.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: That they're finding billions and billions of dollars in waste
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: fraud and abuse.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: And I think it's very important, and that's one of
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: the reasons I got elected.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: I say, we're going to do that. Nobody had any
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: idea was that bad. That's sick, and that corrupt. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: it seems hard to believe that judges want to try
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: and stop us from looking for corruption, especially when we
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: found hundreds of millions of dollars worth much more than
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: that in just a short period of time.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: We want to weed out the corruption.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: And it seems hard to believe that a judge could say,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: we don't want you to do that. Well, so maybe
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: we have to look at the judges, because that's very serious.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I think it's a very serious violation.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He mentioned the judges there by the way, there's a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: lot of activist judges that were put in by liberals
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: who are like, all right, we're the last defense here,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so let's try to, you know, stop him at all
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: costs to, you know, because he's too successful at giving
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the American people transparency and their money back.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Look, Barack Obama and Joe Biden put a lot of
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: radicals on the federal bench, and right now you've got
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Democrat attorneys general going and seeking out these radicals to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: file lawsuits. You've also got left wings special interest groups
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: seeking out these radical judges. We're going to see a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: lot of lawsuits. We're going to see a lot of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: law fair over the next four years. But you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I got to say, watching Democrats in the media melt down,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: number one, they've always melted down over Trump. They have
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Trump arrangement syndrome, but they also have Elon derangement syndrome,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and they scream, well, Elon Musk was not elected to anything. Well, yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that's true, But Donald Trump was elected to something. He
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: was elected to President of the United States, and he
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: was elected on a mandate. And this is actually a
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: point that that Elon made made quite effectively in the oval.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Give a listen.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: The people voted for major govementt reform. There should be
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: no doubt about that. That was on the campaign. The
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: President spoke about that at every rally. The people voted
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: for major government reform. And that's what people are gonna get.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: They're gonna get what they voted for. And a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: of times that you know people that don't get what
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: they voted for, but in this presidency, they are going
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: to get what they voted for.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: And that's what democracy is all about.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I gotta say I love listening to Elon. You've spent
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of time with him. I think this is
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a perfect example of just how genuine his heart is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: on this. He truly is a believer in this country
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and giving the American people what they voted for. And
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: he is an agent to go find the waste frown abuse,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and he's and he's and he's incredibly focused on it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: He is he is incredibly focused, and he's right. This
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: is democracy and yet it is causing the radical left
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: to lose their minds. You know, I gotta say, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: want to play this, this this segment from CNN because
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it really does show how the media that their minds
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: are melting down. You had former New Hampshire governor Chris
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Snunu who's on, and he's on with Anderson Cooper, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper loses it. And you've also got Jeffrey Tubin,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: another left wing CNN contributor. You know your old buddies.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: These are all the folks you piled around with Ben
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: put seven years in hell, seven years in hell. Do
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you have CNN tattooed somewhere on your body?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I do not.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: I do not.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just checking.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So all right, give a listen to Chris Sonunhu and
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and and look how he how he causes the CNN
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: folks to lose their minds.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It was surreal.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: But I got to tell you, I know what you're
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: not showing here. Must gave seven specific examples off the
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: top of his head of where the corruption and fraud were.
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: I know you didn't play the clips. He was talking
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: about a contractor that had a three month contract, he
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: was paid for twenty years. He was talking about welfare
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: benefits that were being paid to someone that was technically
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty years old. He was talking about
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: line item from.
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: The ridden that had no justification many action like, he
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: doesn't present any actual evidence.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Well, he's standing there in the Oval office. Do you
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: expect him to come in with ten thousand pages? And
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: I have to be clear to complain about this administration
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: about transparency. When this president takes open questions on a
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: daily basis, yet Joe Biden didn't show up for a
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: press conferences six months is insane. These guys are being
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: extremely transparent. They don't have to sit there and take
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: the questions, but they do. That's all on the website,
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: it's all out there.
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: It's not transparency to say things that have no factual background.
• 34:54
  Speaker 11: I mean to say, we're cutting you know, we've found
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: a billion dollars or trillion dollars in waste with no
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: sp pacifix. That's just talk. That's not transparent.
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: It's twenty three days in here, guys, twenty three days.
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: You're you're you were talking about two point three billion
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: that was saved last year. These guys are saving two
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: point three billion a day.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: But no, well that it's.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Incredible, that's what they're saying.
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: But where's the game you're waiting.
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: You're not going to be satisfied till he shows up
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: at ten thousand pages. I know.
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: He's giving very specific thing, but he's not actually giving
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: any evidence of that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: It's all going to come because what they also said
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: was if we have to go to Congress, we'll go
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: to Congress.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: But the show where some of the details that have
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: come out, like the you know, fifty nine million dollars
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: spent on luxury hotels, it's actually not the thing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: About the FEMA money that was a use for migrants.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: That was, yeah, FEMA money for migrants.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: That's okay.
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: Now no I'm not saying it's so. I'm not saying
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: it's okay. Don't put words.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So would you stop that? Would you stop that process?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Don't be a dick.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: The portrayal, what I'm saying is the portrayal by him is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I just got to say, I this is from my
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: my seven years and how it's an n When the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: hosts start cursing at you, don Lemon lost it on
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: me one night, screaming that that is BS, that is BS,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: but saying the full thing When you see Anderson Cooper
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: get rattled like this, This is when you know they're
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: losing America and they feel it and they're witnessing it
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: because they're part of this cover up center. And now
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: they realize how stupid their argument is that, well, we
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: didn't see a piece of paper with it on there.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: What you think Elon Musk is sitting there making this
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: up in the Oval office, like, what's wrong with you guys?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And by the way, you guys never question anything that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was shady with the Biden administration when you knew it
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: was shady.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Look, number one, you see Jeffrey Tube and jumping in
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: screaming that's not transparency. Trump is literally doing a press
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: conference every day. They're putting all of this out for
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: everyone to see. They're giving chapter and verse and specifics
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and and and and you see Anderson Cooper at the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: end where he just curses and and and melts down
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and insults governor.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, I mean I mean to me, wow.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: To be clear that that that is the reason Anderson
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Cooper does that is he realizes he's in a completely
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: indefensible position. He's defending the prior administration, diverting funds from FEMA,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: by the way, funds that FEMA are supposed to use
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: to deal with a natural disaster, whether wildfires in California
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: or a hurricane or tornadoes or other natural disaster. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the prior administration took those disaster funds and instead use
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: them to pay for hotel rooms for illegal aliens. And
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and Anderson Cooper realized, wait a second, I'm defending something
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: that is so absurd that even the four viewers who
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: are watching CNN are gonna know it's absurd. And that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: why he melts down. And I gotta say the fact
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that President Trump is standing up and delivering real cuts,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that are is taking on this waste, fraud, and abuse.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: The fact that the fact that Anderson Cooper is melting
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: down that shows President Trump is winning. That shows Elon
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Musk is winning, and that shows the American people are winning.
• 37:59
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