Latest / The Pausecast / Ep 82: How your triune brain navigates the corporate landscape
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- 0:02I got a lot of feedback that talking about the brain was
- 0:05pretty neat. Pretty cool.
- 0:06People like learning about how and why I do something.
- 0:09When we had the heart based leadership has cast, I decided
- 0:14great. Let's do more of that because I
- 0:15think it helps to explain our behaviors, and then we are more
- 0:18aware of it. And if we can learn that we can
- 0:20change it, right? So today I am talking about a
- 0:25couple other ways, the brain functions.
- 0:27And I think this is really important to know as a leader
- 0:29because it might explain behavior patterns that You
- 0:32experience or someone people in your team experience, you can
- 0:35understand what it means. It doesn't mean they have to
- 0:37stay that way might be more about what their default is or
- 0:40what yours is but know that it's just how we are wired and we can
- 0:44change it but we're designed to transform the first topic.
- 0:48I want to talk about is the Triune brain so the Triune brain
- 0:52if you know this is essentially try and try meaning there's
- 0:56three parts of the brain. It came from Paul MacLean who
- 1:00was a Our chair of physics physician and neuroscientist
- 1:05back in the back in. Mid-century 1950s 1908 later
- 1:10later on in the 1900s and basically spent six Decades of
- 1:17work, he researched the brain and basically hypothesize that
- 1:20the skull holds not one. But these three interconnected
- 1:24brains. He called them interconnected
- 1:26biological computers, which I think is a pretty good term.
- 1:31They all represent. Isn't an in evolutionary stratum
- 1:35as his exact words from his books and each one came later as
- 1:42humans evolved. So that's why he called the
- 1:46Triune brain. There's these three prominent
- 1:48parts and each one contains more can progressively complex
- 1:51infrastructure of nerve cells. So the first of the three parts
- 1:54and you might have heard about these.
- 1:56There's The Reptilian Brain that came first like that's when we
- 1:59were really primal. It's and and then mammalian
- 2:03brain, which is later, which is mammals.
- 2:07And we are starting to care for young and we have families and
- 2:12hunter-gatherers and things like that.
- 2:14And then paleo meal. Paleo man million, which is
- 2:18really now the modern neocortex, the the frontal lobe thinking
- 2:23brain which came as we had, we were able to evolve and have
- 2:29decisions made and Creative aspects and Building Things, and
- 2:34things like that. So all of these actually
- 2:35developed from The evolutionary side of that.
- 2:37So reptilian that first Primal part is when we're in that part
- 2:42of our brain, we are basically in fight or flight mode.
- 2:46Imagine the think of a little reptile, like an iguana sitting
- 2:50on a branch, right? And that, that iguana, what is
- 2:57that going to like cuddling up to cuddle up with another
- 3:00iguana? And when I click it slips lick
- 3:03its face. And okay.
- 3:04Hey here I am know, like, like that, that all that lizard
- 3:08thinks about is getting in the sun, maybe eating a couple
- 3:11flies, maybe some veggies and going to sleep and then doing
- 3:17the same thing and fighting off any Predators.
- 3:20That's The Reptilian Brain. So when we get pissed and we get
- 3:23mad, or we are fight, or we feel fear at work, which is really
- 3:27anxiety when we feel that we get into this brain.
- 3:31It's really, really hard to switch out of it because we're
- 3:34usually in an amygdala hijack or usually like hijacked out of our
- 3:36minds and our emotional responses are four hundred times
- 3:41faster, by the way, then our thinking brain, because this was
- 3:44developed first. It's like, it's like reflexes
- 3:48for us, right? It's and we all know, we've all
- 3:50experienced this when we were in that brain and it just like a go
- 3:53to me, I got to know why I get so angry.
- 3:55Well, something sets you off to be in that reptilian mode
- 3:59because you just, you're just fighting and fighting Or
- 4:01freezing. So that is when we are stressed
- 4:06out at work and we cannot access these higher parts of our brain
- 4:10because this is where we're literally fighting for our
- 4:12lives. And the thing is is our brains,
- 4:14don't know if we have a quarterly quarterly Business
- 4:20Review to hand in or we're getting eaten by an elephant I
- 4:24don't think it all for me to maybe maybe a tiger.
- 4:27Yeah everyone uses tiger I'm so bored of that one.
- 4:29How about like Like a panda or that?
- 4:34Eat somebody. I don't know.
- 4:35Maybe it maybe. Like, I'm really angry panda.
- 4:39You get my idea. They could, they could.
- 4:42Well, now we're getting into more complexity because that's a
- 4:44mammal, but you know what I'm saying?
- 4:46Like it's just a fight or flight response.
- 4:52The other thing to know is that, yeah, there's also these neat.
- 4:55These needs that go along with each part of the brain, but I'll
- 4:57get into that in a minute. So, let's continue to the
- 4:59mammalian brain. So, the mammalian brain is this
- 5:03mammal brain, right? So, think of all the mammals on
- 5:05the planet, lots and lots of mammals, right?
- 5:08These are the breathing animals and, and there might be more I'm
- 5:13not in biology expert, but they can be cute and cuddly, like
- 5:17think of a bear and a koala bear, Maybe.
- 5:20Or do you think of little your dog, you think of your pets?
- 5:25Usually, the ones with /, the furry friends, right?
- 5:27So, the mammalian, one of their traits like what are they like
- 5:30to do? Well, they love to, like, saddle
- 5:33up to you and like, like rubbing, like rub their nose,
- 5:37and in your, in your skin and just be like, hey, I'm here.
- 5:40And they want attention, they want to be pet, they want to,
- 5:43they want to be cared for. They are like maybe stroking
- 5:47their young and just like Harlow's monkeys.
- 5:50Right, like the monkeys. I'm going to get cared for by
- 5:52the mom. That was a previous podcast that
- 5:55I talked about. With the monkeys, the resmoke
- 5:59rhesus, monkeys with Harlow's experiment.
- 6:01Yes. So you got to tune into that one
- 6:03to learn about that in the heart base leader episode.
- 6:08So some emilien is, when we are at our circuits for emotions are
- 6:12really turned on, right? So our emotional Center is lit
- 6:15up and we want to be loved. We want to be cared for, we want
- 6:19to, we want to To reach out and connect.
- 6:21We want to really feel like we belong somewhere in those.
- 6:27So this part of the brain of all the second stage and is a really
- 6:31important part of the brain to, because we need this part in,
- 6:34this is the Cuban aspect, right? Like humans are big into that
- 6:37connecting and like groups, and engaging, and care.
- 6:41And all of that is mammalian brain.
- 6:43So, at what I think about as a leader, you know, when you are
- 6:46caring for your team and you're giving somebody a high five I
- 6:50have and you're excited to share a win with them.
- 6:54Like that's our mammalian brain, I'm a million.
- 6:56Brain is designed to like express our emotions.
- 7:00It's a big part of our brains huge part of our brain and, and
- 7:05think about all the mammals, like, that's how they really
- 7:06operate and everyone, all the man will stop there.
- 7:08And then what happened was, the humans, develop this third part
- 7:11of the Triune brain, the neocortex and the neocortex came
- 7:15last. It's the least developed part of
- 7:17our brain. It's, it's your temple.
- 7:19So if you put your Fingers. Right.
- 7:20Where your frontal lobe is, you know, just give it a little
- 7:23little rub little massage. That's, that's your thinking
- 7:26brain. And this is the least active
- 7:29part of our brains because 95% of our brains are unconscious.
- 7:33If you just tap it gently, this is our conscious brain.
- 7:36This is where we make decisions. That's where creativity happens.
- 7:39That's where we are strategic. That's what we're thinking, big
- 7:43picture we have visions. We goals all the all of that is
- 7:47from that brain. So we use it a lot.
- 7:50It actually, it actually takes a tremendous amount of energy to
- 7:53use this part of our brain. That said, it's also a very
- 7:58small part of our overall functioning of our brain.
- 8:01So we need all three of these parts, right?
- 8:03Reptilian 1 million and the neocortex.
- 8:07So just know that you have all of these at excess, but you need
- 8:10to use them all as a leader. And you might be more index on
- 8:14the neocortex, which makes a lot of sense, right?
- 8:16But don't forget about the mammalian part of your brain.
- 8:20Which is designed and really wired for emotion and connection
- 8:26and then The Reptilian Brain, where you might decide to
- 8:30abandon a project, right? Are you might, you might notice
- 8:33there's someone who's Frozen like literally cannot do
- 8:36different cannot make decisions out of fear, okay?
- 8:39That doesn't mean they have to stay there.
- 8:41But potentially, you could also understand that that could be
- 8:44something you could help with. And if that happens to you all,
- 8:47it means is, you're in The Reptilian Brain and you can
- 8:49change. Change that and get out of it,
- 8:51but we need to turn on these other parts of our brain.
- 8:53The one of the best ways to do that is to name a feeling, it's
- 8:57the journal. It's to get out of that state so
- 9:01that you can move into something different and for super, super
- 9:03stressed. If you're chronically stressed,
- 9:06that's not going to be easy but that's okay.
- 9:07That's how I can help you. That's how we can create the
- 9:10tools so you can move into other parts of your brain.
- 9:14So the last part I wanted to mention are these needs that we
- 9:17have for each part of the brain, right?
- 9:19So the reptilian part this, you know, the fight or flight mode,
- 9:23it needs audio-visual communication.
- 9:25Like, we need to hear things and we need to see things and that
- 9:27makes sense, right? Like, am I scared?
- 9:30Am I not like? Is there a shadow?
- 9:32Or is that just the trash can, right?
- 9:34Like we're just consider constantly scanning for threats
- 9:37and that can work, right? And then we also have the
- 9:43optional emotional system is tied into that, but really, for
- 9:47this for this mammalian stage, which is the second stage we
- 9:52are, we are, we are really wired for that nurturing, and that's
- 9:55that limbic system, emotional system.
- 9:57That's also linked to our heart and that neocortex brain, right?
- 10:03So the neocortex, brain that what those needs are as
- 10:06creative, intellectual stimulation.
- 10:09That makes sense of course, because that's our thinking
- 10:11brain or conscious side. And it can really work well to
- 10:15have all of those as part of our integrated work life.
- 10:19And that's kind of cool, right? I mean, like do we ever think of
- 10:22it like that? Like, no, but they're all
- 10:24important. So, if you're only looking at
- 10:26spreadsheets for eight hours a day and maybe your brain is used
- 10:29to that which is fine, it's that can happen.
- 10:33You may notice that you are feeling, maybe a little drained
- 10:38or you're not getting nurturing in your system, that's when you
- 10:41can go home. And you, when you turn, Like if
- 10:43that's your job and that's what you to do also.
- 10:45And then your job later will be to get nurturing and get the the
- 10:49crane of intellectual stimulation.
- 10:50If it wasn't already in the spreadsheets things like that,
- 10:53right? So this is why we burnout is
- 10:55when we're really over index and maybe one of these parts of the
- 10:57brain and we're just not nourishing and nurturing
- 11:00ourselves in a way that really feels holistic and helpful, we
- 11:06need all three of these things and it I think it's worth saying
- 11:11that the play works in the safe. Space created by the audiovisual
- 11:14communication to a nurturing that when all our needs are met.
- 11:19So just know that, you know, when you when your play is
- 11:22there. Like if you're engaging in the
- 11:24act of play is joy and can be fun and a stress, reliever it
- 11:29can really help us get out a lot of these things in the
- 11:32audiovisual communication that can get us out of The Reptilian
- 11:36Brain. So, add more play into it,
- 11:39right? Like, duck out for a game of
- 11:42ping-pong. If you have paper, if you don't,
- 11:44what could you do? What would be fun for you?
- 11:47What would be play full? We have to play more as adults.
- 11:50Maybe I'll talk about that again.
- 11:51Is another time. Yeah.
- 11:55And what else? I think that's a good amount of
- 12:01information. So at that point I am going to.
- 12:07Yeah, I'm going to sign off pause and for now.
- 12:11And thank you so much for listening to this fun and
- 12:14informative podcast about the Triune brain and how it helps us
- 12:18be a better leader. I think that's a good amount of
- 12:01information. So at that point I am going to.
- 12:07Yeah, I'm going to sign off pause and for now.
- 12:11And thank you so much for listening to this fun and
- 12:14informative podcast about the Triune brain and how it helps us
- 12:18be a better leader.