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Media goes full-court press to convince Americans that Hunter Biden story is a "dud" · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There are two big stories right now, one that the
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Speaker 1: media is trying to downplay and the other that the
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Speaker 1: media has become obsessed with over the last twenty four hours.
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Speaker 1: The headlines say it all. NBC News Mike Pence, former VP,
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Speaker 1: subpoenaed by special counsel investigating Trump's role in January the
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Speaker 1: six is what one headline reads. And then there's another headline,
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Speaker 1: this one from Bloomberg House. Republicans hunter Biden pro begins
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Speaker 1: with a thud, seeing it doesn't matter what actually happens
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Speaker 1: in these committee hearings because they've already written the headlines,
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Speaker 1: knowing how to do it from a pr perspective. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's start with the significance, or maybe the insignificance, of
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence being subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating January
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Speaker 1: the six. Here's how the CBS actually NBC Nightly News
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Speaker 1: led with a story. There are some breaking news right
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Speaker 1: now involving former Vice President Mike Pennce, a source familiar
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Speaker 1: with the matter telling NBC News Pence has been subpoenaed
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Speaker 1: the Special Council overseeing the investigation into former President Trump.
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Speaker 1: It's unclear what information the special counsel may be seeking.
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Speaker 1: By the way, let's be clear about how this is
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Speaker 1: normal and not just a you know, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: breaking news story that NBC and the others in the
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Speaker 1: media are trying to turn this into with Waldo Wall
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Speaker 1: coverage on MSNBC and CNN over the intel that you
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Speaker 1: were just given. Vice President Mike Pence was at the
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Speaker 1: Capitol in January six. Vis Prince had to go into safety,
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Speaker 1: into basically hiding. Mike Pence had to be taken to
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Speaker 1: a secure location within the Capitol. If you have a
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Speaker 1: special Council that's looking into this, there's no reasonably that
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence wouldn't be called to testify because he was
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Speaker 1: actually there at the Capitol in January the six This
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Speaker 1: would be a very normal course of business. Is this
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Speaker 1: Waldo Wall breaking news worthy or oh my gosh, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's going to get and dieted and going down. No,
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Speaker 1: But if you listen to news, that's exactly what they're
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Speaker 1: doing with this intel their headline. Former Vice President Mike
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Speaker 1: Pence has been subpoenaed by the Special Council investigation that
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Speaker 1: is investigating former Presidentald Trump's efforts to stay in office
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Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty election and his role in the
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Speaker 1: January six attack on the Capitol. According to a source
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Speaker 1: familiar with the matter, Special Council Jack Smith was appointed
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Speaker 1: in November by Attorney General Garland to lead the Justice
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Speaker 1: Department inquiries in a Trump's role in the riot, as
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Speaker 1: well as the former president's handling of classified documents after
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Speaker 1: he left office that they seized in Marlago. The subpoena,
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Speaker 1: they say, is related directly to January sixth investigation. Spokesman
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Speaker 1: for Smith and Pence declined to comment on the matter.
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Speaker 1: ABC News first reported that Pence had been subpoena, and
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Speaker 1: in December, NBC News reported that Smith at subpoena local
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Speaker 1: officials in key presidential swing states for quote any and
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Speaker 1: all communications involving Trump his campaign in a series of
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Speaker 1: aids and allies who assisted his effort to overturn the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty election results. The move was an indication that
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Speaker 1: Smith is probing into a scheme involving fake electors, a
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Speaker 1: slate of individuals who signed documents purported that they were
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Speaker 1: the state's rightful electors and falsely asserted Trump was the
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Speaker 1: victor in those states. The House committee formed to investigate
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Speaker 1: the attack on the Capitol also gathered evidence that the
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Speaker 1: fake electors submitted false certifications of Trump victories to the
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Speaker 1: National Archives in hopes of having Pence substitute them for
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Speaker 1: the actual electoral votes that made Joe Biden the president.
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Speaker 1: The January sixth committee to vote an entire hearing depends
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Speaker 1: his role on that day and the intense public and
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Speaker 1: private pressure that Donald Trump applied depends to get his
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Speaker 1: vice president to interfere with the election count the electoral count. Pence,
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Speaker 1: as then vice president of the Senate, presided over Congress's
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Speaker 1: certification of the twenty election results, but that role was
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Speaker 1: strictly ceremonial, with no power to intervene in the counting
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Speaker 1: of electoral votes. Still, Trump sought to apply pressure on
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Speaker 1: his vice president, even after pence aids as well as
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Speaker 1: Trump's said it would be illegal for the then vice
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Speaker 1: president to interfere in the count that according to testimony
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Speaker 1: before the January sixth Committee, which remembered, there weren't any
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Speaker 1: real Republicans on that committee because Nancy Pelosi wouldn't allow
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Speaker 1: us to be on the committee. In other words, it
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Speaker 1: was a kangaroo court. Now, the Wall Street Journal in
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Speaker 1: their opinion articles said Pence described telling that to Trump
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Speaker 1: himself during an Oval office meeting with his lawyer John Eastman,
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Speaker 1: one of the architects of a memo that outlined a
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Speaker 1: scenario in which Pence could refuse to certify the electoral
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Speaker 1: College count. After Eastman described his plans as mere theory,
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Speaker 1: Pence wrote that he turned to Trump and said, mister President,
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Speaker 1: did you hear that even your lawyer doesn't think I
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Speaker 1: have the authority to return electoral votes. Pence, who ultimately
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Speaker 1: performed his ceremonial duty in the aftermath of the violence,
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Speaker 1: has said he's proud of what he did on January sixth,
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Speaker 1: and has declared there's almost no idea more Unamerican than
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Speaker 1: the notion this is exact words that any one person
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Speaker 1: could choose the American president. When asked by NBC News
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Speaker 1: Meet the Press in November if he believes Trump committed
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Speaker 1: a crime, Pence said, well, I don't know if it
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Speaker 1: is criminal to listen about advice from lawyers. The truth
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Speaker 1: is what the president was repeating is what he was
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Speaker 1: hearing from the gaggle of attorneys around him. Pence went
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Speaker 1: on to say, presidents just like all of us have served,
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Speaker 1: who all of us that have served in public life.
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Speaker 1: You have to rely on your team, you have to
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Speaker 1: rely on the credibility of the people around you. And
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Speaker 1: so as time goes on, I hope we can move
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Speaker 1: beyond this, Pence said, beyond that prospect and this really
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Speaker 1: and this is really a time when our country ought
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Speaker 1: to be healing, quote unquote the former vice president who
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Speaker 1: has hinted that he is considering a run for president.
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Speaker 1: And there's no way to understate this. He's not hitting
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Speaker 1: at it, he's wanting to do it. He's seeing if
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Speaker 1: there's a pathway for a Pence twenty twenty four presidential campaign,
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Speaker 1: which means he would literally be running against his former boss,
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Speaker 1: the former president United States of America, Donald Trump, who's
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Speaker 1: already declared. So are there politics involved in how Pence
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Speaker 1: responds to some of this? Of course there's gonna be.
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Speaker 1: We all know this. We also know that he has
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Speaker 1: criticized Donald Trump and his actions. On January the six,
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Speaker 1: as a mob of then president Trump supporters descended on
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Speaker 1: the Capitol. Okay, Trump tweeted that Pence didn't have the
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Speaker 1: courage to do what should have been done to protect
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Speaker 1: our country and our Constitution, promoting the chances that were
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Speaker 1: happening at the Capital of hang Mike Pence as writers
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Speaker 1: sought out the Vice president, who had been rushed to
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Speaker 1: a secure location. In November, Pence called Trump's January six
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Speaker 1: tweets about him reckless and said the remarks angered him,
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Speaker 1: quote unquote, I mean the presence words were reckless and
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Speaker 1: his actions were reckless, Pence said in an interview with
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Speaker 1: ABC's David Muir. He added, the presence words that day
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Speaker 1: at the rally endangered me and my family and everyone
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Speaker 1: at the Capitol building. So it's very clear here that
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence and the President are no longer going to
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Speaker 1: be type friends. In fact, I think it's fair to
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Speaker 1: say they're now political enemies over this. Now, the question
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Speaker 1: is is this really a big deal that Pence was
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Speaker 1: the poenot. The answer is no. Is Mike pence story
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Speaker 1: one that people are interested in, of course, But does
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Speaker 1: this spell doom and gloom for Donald Trump the way
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Speaker 1: the media is trying to imply it. It does not.
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Speaker 1: And that's part of the problem here with the media.
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Speaker 1: They always overstate things that deal with bad news, especially
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Speaker 1: if that bad news is specifically for Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: the Special counsel Jack Smith, who's overseas this inquiry, knows that.
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Speaker 1: But he's just wanting to paint a picture. He's wanting
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Speaker 1: to paint a picture of Trump's efforts to cling to
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Speaker 1: power and try to say that Donald Trump was trying
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Speaker 1: to overthrow the will of the people and that this
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Speaker 1: was a in essence, coup attempt by Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: those on January the sixth, That is the narrative. Now,
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Speaker 1: if I was Mike Pence on January the sixth, full disclosure,
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Speaker 1: would I be mad as hell what Donald Trump did
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Speaker 1: that day? Yes, I would be. Would I have an
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Speaker 1: act to grind with a former president? Absolutely, But the
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Speaker 1: reporting should be reporting it that way. I mean, you've
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Speaker 1: got to be You've got to be pissed. Okay, if
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Speaker 1: you're Mike Pence on January the six You're in a
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Speaker 1: secure location, you're having to be rushed from the Senate floor,
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Speaker 1: You've got your family with you, You're doing your constitutional duty,
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Speaker 1: and then this is happening around you, I'd belived if
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Speaker 1: I was him, Okay, I would be. I'd be furious.
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Speaker 1: But also to be clear, the article should talk about
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Speaker 1: that they're not and why are they not. They're not
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Speaker 1: doing it because they don't want to tell you the truth.
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Speaker 1: They want to turn this into a massive story. Now,
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Speaker 1: while all this is happening, the media is also trying
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Speaker 1: to downplay the big breaking news on Hunter Biden and
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Bloomberg. Again, this is propaganda. I want
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Speaker 1: you to be I want to be clear about that.
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Speaker 1: This is propaganda. This headline House Republicans Hunter Biden pro
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Speaker 1: begins with a thud. That's a lie, But that's their headline.
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Speaker 1: Bloomberg has a narrative they want to push, and that
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Speaker 1: is that the House Republicans and Day One failed to
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Speaker 1: open their investigation into the finances of Joe Biden's family
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Speaker 1: to produce evidence of sending their claims that US intelligence
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Speaker 1: officials worked with Twitter to suppress an unflattering twenty news
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Speaker 1: story on the president's son. Former Twitter Inc. Officials testified
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Speaker 1: Wednesday that their decision limit the spread of the New
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Speaker 1: York Post story about Hunter Biden's now infamous laptop and
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Speaker 1: as overseas business dealings was, in hindsight, a mistake. They
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Speaker 1: said that before Congress, but they said they weren't directed
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Speaker 1: by the FBI or other intelligence officials, and the action
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Speaker 1: wasn't politically motivated. So there you have it, because these
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Speaker 1: Twitter officials are lying about why they did what they did.
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Speaker 1: Now the media is saying, oh, say, there's no there there.
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Speaker 1: They did this on their own. They were just stupid.
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Speaker 1: They got bamboozled. But this wasn't directed by the FBI.
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Speaker 1: Okay that this whole entire article from Bloomberg is nothing
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Speaker 1: but state sponsored propaganda, and it's disgusting. Here's why we
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Speaker 1: know it is state sponsored propaganda. That is disgusting. They
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Speaker 1: were having regular meetings with the FBI. The FBI came
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Speaker 1: in to Twitter days before this story was released and
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Speaker 1: warned them of a major story that could be breaking
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Speaker 1: involving Russia's potential interference in our election. They gave them
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Speaker 1: a heads up, heads up, something big may break and
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Speaker 1: if it does break, which means they knew the story
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Speaker 1: was coming out from the New York Post, be ready
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Speaker 1: and don't get bamboozled. Whatever you do, just don't get bamboozled. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. And then they say, and this
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Speaker 1: article says, oh, well, they you know there was no
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Speaker 1: there there. They didn't actually warn them directly and that's true.
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Speaker 1: They didn't come in and say, hey, the New York
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Speaker 1: Post is going to publish this article and don't let
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Speaker 1: it go anywhere because Russian disinformation. They didn't do that.
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Speaker 1: Why why did the FBI not say that directly? I'll
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Speaker 1: tell exactly why. Because they knew the story was true.
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Speaker 1: They knew the laptop was real, they knew it was authentic,
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Speaker 1: and they had a copy of it, and they knew
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Speaker 1: from whistleblowers that it was authentic, and they knew because
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Speaker 1: of all their information data that this was all actually real.
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Speaker 1: So they couldn't walk into Twitter and say directly, hey,
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Speaker 1: you're about to get to be a story about Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: and the media has been bambooso by this story, and
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a fake laptop story and it's really fake.
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Speaker 1: It's not a real laptop and it's not Hunter Biden's.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't say that, So instead, what do the FBI do?
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Speaker 1: Because they're smart, Hey guys, there's going to be a
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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation article. Right, there's gonna be a Russian disinformation
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Speaker 1: story that comes out that may break before the election day,
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Speaker 1: Right may break, just might it might break, And if
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Speaker 1: it does break, you guys, don't get bambooso by it.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. That's what this is. Be very
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Speaker 1: clear about. That's what this is. Now, there's another aspect
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Speaker 1: of the story that we need to talk about, okay,
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Speaker 1: And the aspect of the story is the fact that
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Speaker 1: the media now is saying, we have to protect the
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Speaker 1: presidency at all costs. We've got to separate this out.
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Speaker 1: We've got to act like every time there's a big
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Speaker 1: moment in these hearings that we already knew this like
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Speaker 1: this is old news. And that's what they're trying to
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Speaker 1: do here. They're trying to imply that it's all old news.
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Speaker 1: Every part of its old news. Every bit of this
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Speaker 1: is old news. None of this is new, none of
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Speaker 1: this is earth shattering. This is just straight up normal.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to say here. Okay, that's that's
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Speaker 1: what this is. And they're doing a hell of a job.
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Speaker 1: They're doing one hell of a job pulling this off.
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Speaker 1: You write these headlines this way, House Republican hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: pro begins with a thud, that's how they described It's
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Speaker 1: nothing here, right, There's there's there's no there there. Right,
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Speaker 1: This is a thud. This is they're already this thing's
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Speaker 1: already unraveling. It started the first day of the hearing,
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Speaker 1: and they're already saying it's over. Many of the documents
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Speaker 1: republican display. They go on to say it the House
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Speaker 1: Oversight Hearing. We're from so called Twitter files. Well they're
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Speaker 1: not so called Twitter files. They are the Twitter files.
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Speaker 1: They're released by Twitter. Since Elon Musk is them, so
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Speaker 1: why would you undermine them by calling them so called?
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Speaker 1: Because again this is propaganda. A series of reports shared
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Speaker 1: by journalists who were involved were invited by Elon Must
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Speaker 1: to Elon Must to examine Twitter's handling of controversial decisions
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Speaker 1: made under the company's previous leaders. The first installment of
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Speaker 1: the Twitter Files focused on the company's treatment of the
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Speaker 1: New York Post story. Must gave the journalists access to
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Speaker 1: company emails and Slack messages, and many of those messages
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Speaker 1: were then published on Twitter. Most of the reports suggests,
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Speaker 1: without evidence, that Twitter made decisions based on demands and
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Speaker 1: pressures from the FBI and the Biden campaign. Okay, there
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Speaker 1: is evidence the entire Twitter files, if you go back,
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Speaker 1: show the evidence that they were meeting with the FBI
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Speaker 1: and they were getting direct emails from staffers and people
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Speaker 1: on the Biden campaign. It's not indirect. There's there's no
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Speaker 1: claims of this without evidence. The Twitter files, in fact,
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Speaker 1: was the evidence to back it up. House Judiciary Committee
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Speaker 1: Chairman Jim Jordan said, I think you guys wanted to
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Speaker 1: take it down, referring to the Hunter Biden story. Why
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Speaker 1: because they wanted to make sure that he became president.
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Speaker 1: That's why I think you guys got played by the FBI.
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Speaker 1: That is the words of Jim Jordan. He's right, Republicans.
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Speaker 1: Bloomberg goes on to write repeatedly asked witnesses to recall
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Speaker 1: years old emails and applying it. That's like unrealistic, the
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Speaker 1: contents of which the foremer employee said they no longer
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Speaker 1: have access to and do not recall the details. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's convenient, isn't it. At one point, the power in
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Speaker 1: the room went out and the peniel had a recess,
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Speaker 1: stretching the hearing into the afternoon. James Baker, a former
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Speaker 1: lawyer for Twitter who previously worked for the FBI at
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Speaker 1: a top high level, so he didn't act as an
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Speaker 1: agent or an operator of the government while working for
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Speaker 1: the social media company. Baker said the company's actions were
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Speaker 1: fully consistent with the First Amendment. That's also a lie.
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Speaker 1: They were silencing members of Congress who put out things
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Speaker 1: they didn't like. Some of the information actually came from
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Speaker 1: the United States government's owned websites, and they didn't like it.
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Speaker 1: So these are just some of the things. I want
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Speaker 1: to be clear here. These are just some of the
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Speaker 1: things that happen. And they're gonna keep lying to you.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why they keep lying to you, I
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Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear they want to lie to you
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Speaker 1: because they wanted this story to go away. And this
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Speaker 1: is the only way to fight back on it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Like this is it. This is the only way to
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Speaker 1: fight back. This is the only possible way to fight back.
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Speaker 1: And if you don't fight back this way, right, if
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Speaker 1: you don't really come back after them this way, you've
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Speaker 1: got a problem here. This story actually gains legs, and
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Speaker 1: this story actually goes somewhere. They therefore have to write
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Speaker 1: the headlines. And these headlines, I would argue, have been
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Speaker 1: written for months. They knew how they were going to
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Speaker 1: spend this when they started. They're gonna say, Okay, let's
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Speaker 1: tell everybody that opened with a thud. Let's tell everybody
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Speaker 1: it was a dud investigation from the very beginning. Let's
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Speaker 1: tell everybody that this was just a thud of a
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Speaker 1: moment here, that there was no there there. Let's undermine
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Speaker 1: it and say nothing news coming out of these hearings. Now,
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Speaker 1: I would argue this, there's not a lot new coming
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Speaker 1: out of these theories. We already have it all from
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Speaker 1: the Twitter files. Well, it's new from these hearings. That's
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Speaker 1: news worthy is the fact that you have former executives
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Speaker 1: at Twitter who are now being held accountable for their
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Speaker 1: words and their actions that have been now leaked. I
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Speaker 1: actually the same call it leaked have now been exposed
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Speaker 1: because of Elon must bravery to buy a company and
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Speaker 1: then expose how they did business. The Twitter files are
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Speaker 1: about exposing the corruption of big tech, and these types
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Speaker 1: of conversations that they were having at Twitter, I have
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Speaker 1: no doubt, are the same exact type of conversations that
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Speaker 1: are happening at Google and Facebook and YouTube. There's somebody
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Speaker 1: they don't like, something they don't like. What do you do?
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Speaker 1: You just violence it and shut it down forever. That's
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Speaker 1: actually hear what the president has a say in case
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Speaker 1: there was a tough question, and this is what Joe
20:18
Speaker 1: Biden had to say, and I want to get your
20:19
Speaker 1: reaction to it. Now that we know what we know,
20:22
Speaker 1: that the balloon had in tennis and communication system. Do
20:27
Speaker 1: you regret not having insisted on bringing it down? Swoner? No,
20:32
Speaker 1: I think the expert, the intelligence community, defense community, they've
20:36
Speaker 1: forgotten more about it than you or I know. I said,
20:39
Speaker 1: I wanted to shot down as soon as possible, and
20:40
Speaker 1: they were worried about the damage. You can be done.
20:43
Speaker 1: Even in a big state like Montana. This thing was gigantic.
20:47
Speaker 1: What happened if it came down to hit a school
20:49
Speaker 1: in the rural area. What happened it came down? So
20:51
Speaker 1: I told him as soon as they could shoot it down,
20:53
Speaker 1: shoot it down. They made a wide decision. They shot
20:56
Speaker 1: it down over water and recovery most of the parts,
20:58
Speaker 1: and they're good. Wasn't it a major breed security bridge
21:03
Speaker 1: for the United States? Just the fact that the balloon
21:06
Speaker 1: came into the airspace through over the country for so
21:09
Speaker 1: many days. Oh, Look, the total amount of intelligence gathering
21:15
Speaker 1: is going on where every country around the world is overwhelming.
21:19
Speaker 1: And the idea that a balloon could traverse break American
21:24
Speaker 1: airspace is anyway, It's not a measuring breed. It's not
21:32
Speaker 1: a major breage. Senator. I was shocked to see him,
21:35
Speaker 1: not only loses train of thought on such an important issue,
21:38
Speaker 1: but also to imply that it's just not a big
21:40
Speaker 1: deal that this balloon came over the United States of
21:42
Speaker 1: American or most ins the military bases and where we
21:45
Speaker 1: keep our most important defensive weaponry. Your thoughts. It was
21:51
Speaker 1: astounding to us that they didn't bring this forward. There
21:57
Speaker 1: was no briefing to Congress. Our first briefing on this
22:00
Speaker 1: was yesterday, And it's like they had to get their
22:03
Speaker 1: story straight, their act together before they gave us a
22:07
Speaker 1: classified briefing. And then you have to think about it
22:12
Speaker 1: like this. They could see this then coming. It was
22:15
Speaker 1: over the Illusion is Love. They could have shot it
22:18
Speaker 1: down there after it was into our space and over Alaska,
22:22
Speaker 1: or they could have done probably what would have been
22:25
Speaker 1: the smarter thing, attached some balloons to it so that
22:30
Speaker 1: they could walk the payload down and see what was
22:33
Speaker 1: in it and get rid of that balloon that was
22:38
Speaker 1: hoisting it. But see, nobody knew what was in that balloon,
22:43
Speaker 1: and nobody knew exactly what was in the payload, so
22:47
Speaker 1: it would have made sense to take care of it
22:50
Speaker 1: on the front end rather than waiting until it has
22:55
Speaker 1: traits across the whole country, gathering information and collecting signals,
23:02
Speaker 1: collecting data, surveilling, and then they say, oh yeah, let's
23:09
Speaker 1: go ahead and let's shoot it down. There still hasn't
23:13
Speaker 1: been a warning to China from this administration, and I
23:16
Speaker 1: think this is notable to never do this again. China,
23:20
Speaker 1: by the way, has warned us, how dare you shoot
23:22
Speaker 1: down our balloon that incurred that went into your airspace
23:25
Speaker 1: over your country, and we hold the right to respond
23:29
Speaker 1: with some sort of force. Yet they're warning us, and
23:34
Speaker 1: our presence still hasn't directly said to the Chinese, Hey,
23:38
Speaker 1: you better not do that. Pull this blank again, because
23:41
Speaker 1: if you do, there will be real consequences. No one's
23:43
Speaker 1: mentioned sanctions, no one's mentioned anything as a response, a
23:48
Speaker 1: diplomatic response to China for doing this. Well, you're right
23:53
Speaker 1: about that. And the Biden administration is fearful of the
23:59
Speaker 1: China Communist Party. They're afraid of them. They maybe maybe
24:07
Speaker 1: they're beholden to them. Maybe Hunter is still doing business
24:12
Speaker 1: with them, Maybe Biden Incorporated is still doing business with them.
24:19
Speaker 1: Maybe the Biden administration is fearful of what I call
24:23
Speaker 1: the new axis of evil, Russia, China run North Korea.
24:28
Speaker 1: So maybe they're turned to tiptoe around them and not
24:32
Speaker 1: pick them off. But I will tell you this, the
24:37
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party would never have done something like this.
24:41
Speaker 1: With President Donald Trump and Secretary of State like Pompeo,
24:46
Speaker 1: they would never have tried something like this. The Iranians
24:51
Speaker 1: are now making drones in Russia. You know, they've given
24:55
Speaker 1: Russia six thousand drones to use in the fight against Ukraine.
25:02
Speaker 1: They would never have done that With a President Donald
25:06
Speaker 1: Trump and a Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. They would
25:10
Speaker 1: have not tried to get a restart on the run
25:13
Speaker 1: nuclear deal because they knew there were things that were
25:17
Speaker 1: off the table. North Korea has been sending rockets to
25:22
Speaker 1: Russia to fight the Ukrainians. They would never have thought
25:26
Speaker 1: about doing that under President Donald Trump. In China, of course,
25:31
Speaker 1: is buying Russia's oil, They are banking them, They're sending
25:35
Speaker 1: them navigation equipment because they know this administration is not
25:42
Speaker 1: going to hold them to account. Well, let's talk about
25:46
Speaker 1: and I know you can't tell us what was said
25:48
Speaker 1: in the classified briefing, but I want to talk about
25:51
Speaker 1: one aspect of this. I feel like that if it
25:55
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been literally for American citizens who spotted this
25:58
Speaker 1: down balloon that this administration, if they could have, would
26:03
Speaker 1: have never told anyone, including you and your colleagues in
26:07
Speaker 1: the Senate, that this balloon went across the United States
26:11
Speaker 1: of America. They were forced to disclose this. How concerned
26:14
Speaker 1: are you now, excuse me, how concerned are you now
26:19
Speaker 1: that they are not disclosing important information just like this
26:24
Speaker 1: balloon to Congress knowing that this was again, you guys
26:29
Speaker 1: got your first briefing yesterday. That's correct. And see you're
26:33
Speaker 1: exactly right. There was a pilot who had a great
26:39
Speaker 1: camera lens because he also was a reporter and he
26:43
Speaker 1: was watching this. So with that high depth lens, he
26:46
Speaker 1: takes that picture, he puts it up on their site,
26:51
Speaker 1: their website, and says, hey, has anybody, is anybody else
26:56
Speaker 1: watching this? Anybody know anything about it? And that is
27:00
Speaker 1: the only reason that this administration had to step forward
27:05
Speaker 1: and talk about it. It's the only reason we know
27:08
Speaker 1: about it because we've got a citizen who saw something
27:12
Speaker 1: and said this is not right. Let's see what other
27:16
Speaker 1: people know about this, and he put it out there.
27:20
Speaker 1: So then you had the administration say this is what
27:26
Speaker 1: we have. What we know and we're watching it and
27:29
Speaker 1: it's nothing dangerous. The Chinese say it's a weather balloon.
27:35
Speaker 1: And then because of the American people finding out about
27:39
Speaker 1: this and just being incensed with the actions of this
27:44
Speaker 1: administration regarding the balloon, then Anthony Blincoln, the current Secretary
27:51
Speaker 1: of State who nobody is afraid of, decided he would
27:56
Speaker 1: cancel his trip to Beijing. Then he reaches out to
28:01
Speaker 1: his counterpart in China to see if they can talk
28:04
Speaker 1: about this, and three days later, the Chinese Communist Party
28:08
Speaker 1: gets back to b Lincoln and says, we will not
28:13
Speaker 1: take your call. So BAA is not going to do anything.
28:21
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is weak. They know it. Joe Biden, I
28:25
Speaker 1: don't think a president ever said let's shoot down that balloon.
28:29
Speaker 1: If he had given that order, the Pentagon would have
28:32
Speaker 1: had to carry out that order. So I don't know
28:37
Speaker 1: many people that think he gave that order. And I've
28:39
Speaker 1: talked to a lot i've retired military over the past
28:43
Speaker 1: couple of days, and they seem to think if he
28:47
Speaker 1: had given that order, that balloon would have been shot
28:49
Speaker 1: down wherever it was. Last question on this, and then
28:53
Speaker 1: I want to move to budgets and spinning cuts that
28:56
Speaker 1: you're helping proposed right now. But when you when you
28:59
Speaker 1: look at the intel Democrats are now coming out saying
29:03
Speaker 1: this balloon and what it gathered was not a threat
29:06
Speaker 1: to national security and really isn't that big of a deal,
29:09
Speaker 1: implying that this was more of like just kind of
29:11
Speaker 1: the same thing they could quote do from their satellites.
29:14
Speaker 1: I believe China never does anything by accident. I believe
29:17
Speaker 1: they were clearly trying to gather until they couldn't gather
29:19
Speaker 1: from satellites. You've been briefed on this. Do you believe
29:23
Speaker 1: that this was not that big of an intelligence gathering mission?
29:27
Speaker 1: Or was this a very successful mission? And the administration
29:30
Speaker 1: is just misleading the American people on that. I am
29:34
Speaker 1: very concerned that the administration is misleading the American people
29:39
Speaker 1: on that. There's a couple of points that are vitally
29:43
Speaker 1: important here. Number one, getting within sixty thousand feet is
29:50
Speaker 1: to the point that they could surveil. They were going
29:53
Speaker 1: over They stayed over Montana, Idaho, Dakota's places where we
30:00
Speaker 1: have some of our ICBMs, the silos, things of that nature,
30:07
Speaker 1: and we know that they are trying to assess our
30:12
Speaker 1: nuclear capacity. So it's North Korea who is one of
30:17
Speaker 1: their cohorts and the axis of evil, so that is
30:22
Speaker 1: of concern. And then they just seem to kind of
30:26
Speaker 1: make their way across military post across the country. And
30:30
Speaker 1: when we look at our military post and our critical infrastructure,
30:37
Speaker 1: we've been fighting to keep the Chinese Communist Party from
30:41
Speaker 1: buying farms and land near our military posts. Why were
30:46
Speaker 1: they wanting to do that so they could surveil our
30:50
Speaker 1: military posts. So you know, then we've got to take
30:53
Speaker 1: that into accountant. By the way, my amendment that would
30:59
Speaker 1: have prohibit themcrat the Chinese Communist Party from buying our
31:05
Speaker 1: US farmland, every one of those Democrats voted against it,
31:12
Speaker 1: every one of them. So therefore it therefore it And
31:17
Speaker 1: so they're all dancing around trying to figure out how
31:21
Speaker 1: they're not going to tell us what's really happening with
31:24
Speaker 1: the spy balloon. Now, the other thing that is important
31:29
Speaker 1: about this is if they had taken that balloon down
31:34
Speaker 1: early on, and as I said, they could have attached
31:39
Speaker 1: other balloons to that payload, imploded the balloon that was
31:44
Speaker 1: supporting the payload, and very carefully walked that payload down.
31:53
Speaker 1: They chose not to do that. This is a sign
31:57
Speaker 1: of weakness. They invaded our airspace, they have invaded our
32:05
Speaker 1: sovereign territory. We have a president who did nothing. They
32:09
Speaker 1: are testing him. He is failing the test. Lastly, something
32:15
Speaker 1: else very important you're working on. You proposed across the
32:18
Speaker 1: board spinning cuts some of the debt ceiling fight. Democrats
32:22
Speaker 1: have been basically positioning themselves to say, well, there may
32:25
Speaker 1: be a government shutdown of three Republicans don't agree with us,
32:28
Speaker 1: and it will be their fault. Talk about the politics
32:31
Speaker 1: of this and talk about actual spinning cuts. Because our deficit,
32:34
Speaker 1: you and I've talked about this before, is clearly totally
32:37
Speaker 1: out of control. Right, And what we have to realize
32:42
Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden has increased our federal debt load
32:46
Speaker 1: nearly five trillion dollars since he's been in office, five
32:51
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. So that's where our debt is currently under
32:58
Speaker 1: his administration. The total is over thirty one trillion dollars.
33:05
Speaker 1: So the bills that I propose every year, you cut
33:08
Speaker 1: either one percent, which is a penny out of a dollar,
33:13
Speaker 1: two percent which is two pennies out of a dollar,
33:16
Speaker 1: or a nickel which is a five percent cut, and
33:21
Speaker 1: you do that across the board in all of your
33:25
Speaker 1: discretionary spending. That forces these federal agencies to start to
33:31
Speaker 1: work and make some spending reductions. Now, the President erroneously
33:38
Speaker 1: says that Republicans are trying to cut Medicare and Social Security,
33:44
Speaker 1: which is a lie. Republicans are not. Yeah, that was
33:49
Speaker 1: one of the most That was one of the most
33:51
Speaker 1: awkward moments when the Say of the Union where the
33:53
Speaker 1: President try to accuse all the Republicans have when to
33:56
Speaker 1: cut so security, the third rail in politics. And then
34:00
Speaker 1: I was glad that you guys responded very loudly, made
34:03
Speaker 1: it awkward. And then he had to met Okay, well,
34:05
Speaker 1: maybe it's not all of you these says, Okay, well
34:07
Speaker 1: maybe we agree on this. It was one of the
34:09
Speaker 1: most awkward moments I've ever seen. The State of Union. Well,
34:14
Speaker 1: it was very awkward because there's no Republican that has
34:18
Speaker 1: done that. There's no one that has said cut some
34:20
Speaker 1: benefits to Medicare and Social Security recipients. Nobody, and so
34:26
Speaker 1: this is another of those things that they're just making up.
34:30
Speaker 1: But in order to right size this budget, what you
34:33
Speaker 1: have to do is begin the process of cutting into
34:37
Speaker 1: that baseline, so that because what the federal agencies do,
34:42
Speaker 1: They say, Luke, you gave us one hundred dollars last year,
34:46
Speaker 1: we're asking for one hundred and ten this year. And
34:50
Speaker 1: when they get one hundred and five, what do they
34:52
Speaker 1: all go out there and say? They say, you cut us,
34:57
Speaker 1: And that is just not true. What we're saying is,
35:01
Speaker 1: if you've got one hundred dollars last year, we're going
35:04
Speaker 1: to give you ninety nine, or we're going to give
35:06
Speaker 1: you ninety eight, or we're going to give you ninety five,
35:09
Speaker 1: but you're not going to get a hundred and doing
35:13
Speaker 1: those cuts. Having these agencies begin that process is in CORBA.
35:18
Speaker 1: And you know, if it were up to me, every
35:21
Speaker 1: agency would exercise zero based budgeting and go back to
35:25
Speaker 1: dollar one and totally reassess their projects and programs and
35:32
Speaker 1: inside of that be required to save that penny on
35:36
Speaker 1: the dollar. Sander, I appreciate you coming on. Is always
35:39
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