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Eric Trump joins us discussing his latest Best Seller Under Siege · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Today's show is going to be really cool. Eric Trump
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Speaker 1: has a new book out talking about the weaponization of
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Speaker 1: the private sector against his father, the government, the federal
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Speaker 1: government against his father, and state governments that attacked his family.
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Speaker 1: He was subpoenaed countless times, and you'll be shocked to
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Speaker 1: hear him talk about how much money it costs to
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Speaker 1: defend themselves from these frivolous and ridiculous lawsuits. Senator Cruz
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Speaker 1: and I had the privilege of sitting down with Eric
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Speaker 1: to talk about his new book, and I want you
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Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say.
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Speaker 2: You know, Ben, I got to say, we try to
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Speaker 2: count on being honest and candid with our viewers and listeners,
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Speaker 2: and yet you just claim that we're going to take
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Speaker 2: a break from politics, and this is about as far
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Speaker 2: away from taking a break from politics as I can
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Speaker 2: possibly imagine. Today, we are very pleased to welcome our
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Speaker 2: friend Eric Trump, President Donald Trump's son, who has a
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Speaker 2: brand new book. A brand new book came out this week.
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Speaker 2: The bookook is entitled Under Siege, My Family's Fight to
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Speaker 2: Save Our Nation. He is in the midst of his
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Speaker 2: nationwide book tour right now, and and in classic Trump fashion,
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Speaker 2: he's on the list, and there's only one place to
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Speaker 2: be on the list, and that is at number one.
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Speaker 2: It's the number one best selling book in America right now. Uh,
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Speaker 2: and Eric, this is your first book. It ain't bad
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Speaker 2: debuting at number one. Congratulations and welcome.
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Speaker 3: Mister senator.
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Speaker 4: Now it will probably be my last book as well,
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Speaker 4: because we're not I'm not doing this again. You know,
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Speaker 4: the return, the return on time of books is especially
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Speaker 4: when you put your heart and soul into it. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: we're number one on Amazon, We're number one on all
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Speaker 4: the lists, and it's I mean, it just went viral.
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Speaker 3: I think. You know, people in this country are pissed off.
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Speaker 4: And and mister Centaer, you you've done a better job
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Speaker 4: fighting against a weaponization of government that I would say
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Speaker 4: just about anybody other than maybe Donald Trump, right, who's
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Speaker 4: had to face all of this. And you know, I
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Speaker 4: became the pinata in this whole fight because I was
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Speaker 4: the one guy who didn't have constitutional protections. I was
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Speaker 4: a civilian, you know, I was the guy that was
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Speaker 4: running the Trump organization. I was the guy that ran
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Speaker 4: everything that was outside of Washington, DC from my father
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Speaker 4: when he went into the White House and what they
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Speaker 4: tried to do to us, what they tried to do
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Speaker 4: to our family, what they tried to do to this nation,
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Speaker 4: what they tried to do to you and all your
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Speaker 4: viewers on this show is unthinkable, and somebody had to
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Speaker 4: materialize it because there's the greatest governmental corruption this nation
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Speaker 4: has ever seen.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and they launched everything they had at
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Speaker 2: your father, at your family, four separate indictments. On top
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Speaker 2: of that, the asinine case from the New York Attorney
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Speaker 2: General trying to argue that somehow global international banks are
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Speaker 2: innocent wifes who are deceived and are apparently are unable
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Speaker 2: to value real estate because you know, giant banks have
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Speaker 2: never had to value real estate in the past. I
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Speaker 2: will confess, for me, maybe the most absurd moment of
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Speaker 2: all of it was when the idiot judge in New
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Speaker 2: York valued bar a Lago at eighteen million dollars, which
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Speaker 2: I'll confess I saw it.
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Speaker 5: I would have bought it for that.
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Speaker 2: I saw your dad not shortly after that, and I
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Speaker 2: offered it on the spot. I said, mister President, I'll
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Speaker 2: give you twenty million right now. Well they too, I mean,
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Speaker 2: as you as you know, you can't buy a hot
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Speaker 2: dog stand in Palm Beach for eighteen million dollars, and
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Speaker 2: and that notion that, to me, it was the most ludicrous.
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Speaker 2: It was a relatively small detail of what was a
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Speaker 2: pile of idiocy upon idiocy. But you guys were the
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Speaker 2: targets of it, and and it it cannot have been fun.
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Speaker 3: Mister Center.
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Speaker 4: I became the most opeenid man in American history for
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Speaker 4: doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not Hunter Biden. I never
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Speaker 4: had a speeding ticket in my life. I've lived a
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Speaker 4: very straight, very good life, hard working guy, no games,
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Speaker 4: never even approached a line, you know, raised right, you know,
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Speaker 4: And and they tried to destroy us. I was the
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Speaker 4: one that was getting calls from the FBI. You remember
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Speaker 4: the Rushia hoos very well because you were probably the
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Speaker 4: best person at fighting against it. Eric, I hear you
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Speaker 4: have secret servers in the basement of Trump were communicating
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Speaker 4: directly with the Kremlin. I go, excuse me, I literally started,
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Speaker 4: mister Center. I started laughing. I started laughing. I go,
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Speaker 4: First of all, you don't keep servers in basements because
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Speaker 4: basement's flood. Second of all, were like largely cloud based,
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Speaker 4: and they did it so a greedy woman could get
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Speaker 4: about three extra votes, right, and they used that as
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Speaker 4: their explanation as to why she lost.
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Speaker 3: And then it was.
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Speaker 4: Impeachment number one, and then it was impeachment number two,
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Speaker 4: and then it was them attacking Cavanaugh. And then it
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Speaker 4: was one hundred and twelve subpoenas that I received for
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Speaker 4: again doing nothing wrong. And then it was a weaponization
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Speaker 4: of every attorney general and district attorney in this country,
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Speaker 4: whether it be Latitia James or Alvin Bragg or Cy
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Speaker 4: Vance or Fanny Willis and her boyfriend in Fulton, Georgia,
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Speaker 4: you know, or Jack Smith or Comy and everything that
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Speaker 4: they did. Then they spied on her campaign. Then they
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Speaker 4: did the weaponization of Faiza. Then they took my father
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Speaker 4: off the ballot in Colorado, and then they took him
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Speaker 4: off the ballot in Maine. And when that didn't work,
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Speaker 4: they tried to silence his voice and get rid of
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Speaker 4: his First Amendment, right, So what did they do? Took
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Speaker 4: him off of YouTube, took him off of Twitter, took
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Speaker 4: him off of Facebook, took him off of in inst
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Speaker 4: And when that didn't work, when we popped up truth social,
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Speaker 4: what did they do? They had every judge imposed gag orders.
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Speaker 4: On him, and then they raided mar A Lago. I
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Speaker 4: was the guy that got the call when thirty FBI
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Speaker 4: agents were outside screaming in a phone to me turn
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Speaker 4: off the security cameras at at mar A Lago. They
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Speaker 4: did everything they could, and then they de banked us,
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Speaker 4: and then they deplatformed us. They tried to bankrupt us,
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Speaker 4: they tried to imprison us. And I'll never forget walking
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Speaker 4: out of that jail cell with my father in New
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Speaker 4: York after the thirty four felony accounts right which have
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Speaker 4: all been overturned, and I said, Dad, we either win
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Speaker 4: the White House or you and I are in jail
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Speaker 4: for doing absolutely nothing wrong. That's how diabolical the pendulum was.
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Speaker 4: And they were doing it to the people in this
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Speaker 4: country as well. They were debanking them. They were going
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Speaker 4: after their pastors, they were going after their churches. They
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Speaker 4: were weaponizing the irs. You know, they were skipping great
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Speaker 4: people who had worked their butts off their entire year
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Speaker 4: because of DEI hires and literally rooting upward mobility of
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Speaker 4: people across the country. They were corrupting their children. They
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Speaker 4: were teaching them revisionist history. This siege wasn't just against
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Speaker 4: the Trump family. It was against all of us, it
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Speaker 4: was against both of you. It was against every person
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Speaker 4: that's watching us right now. And people are pissed off
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Speaker 4: in this country, and that's why this book went to
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Speaker 4: number one.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned mar Lago a second ago and getting that
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Speaker 1: phone call. Can you just explain how insane that day
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Speaker 1: must have been because I know people we saw it
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Speaker 1: on TV, but you were on the inside. And when
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Speaker 1: you're getting a phone called, they're telling you to turn
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Speaker 1: your cameras off.
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Speaker 3: So like, what time of day is it, what are
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Speaker 3: you doing?
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Speaker 4: It was about seven fifty eight o'clock in the morning
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Speaker 4: when I got a call from my team. They say,
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Speaker 4: the thirty FBI agents and they have a search warrant.
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Speaker 4: I go, what are they searching? I'm not sure if
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Speaker 4: I understand, Like we have like such a great relationship
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Speaker 4: with law enforcement. It was bizarre at the time. I go,
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Speaker 4: how would I not know about this? From Secret Service?
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Speaker 4: How would I not know? I mean, they didn't give
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Speaker 4: anybody warning. And I'll never forget, I said. I finally
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Speaker 4: figured out what they were doing. And I said, did
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Speaker 4: anybody let my father know? And it was my team,
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Speaker 4: really and they said no, And I go we'll call
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Speaker 4: him right now, and we met in his office and
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Speaker 4: that's when he wrote up that beautiful tweet, as you remember.
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Speaker 4: And the FBI was so damn pissed that we sent
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Speaker 4: out that tweet. They wanted to have the narrative, they
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Speaker 4: wanted to be able to release a story, and instead
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Speaker 4: my father writes that beautiful tweet. You know, right now,
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Speaker 4: the FBI is raiding the famous mar A Lago my home,
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Speaker 4: you know, and the world went crazy. The world couldn't
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Speaker 4: stand it. It was the worst decision that they ever made.
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Speaker 4: And remember, Senator, they said it was on behalf of
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Speaker 4: Nara right National Archives. Does anybody I went on Hannity
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Speaker 4: that night, I go, does anybody actually believe a glorified
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Speaker 4: library sent thirty FBI agents to invade Mara A Lago
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Speaker 4: with with firearms?
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Speaker 3: Give me a break, right?
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Speaker 4: And then sure enough it comes out there was Joe Biden,
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Speaker 4: and it was Merrick Garland, and it was the whole
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Speaker 4: host of criminals that weaponized the entire system. But I'll
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Speaker 4: never forget that call. Thirty FBI agents outside of mar
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Speaker 4: A Lago. They searched Milania's room, they searched Baron's room,
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Speaker 4: They took attorney client privileged documents. They took hippa documents.
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Speaker 1: So everyone listening, I hope you'll buy the book just
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Speaker 2: Well, I will say, Eric, you should brace yourself. It
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how many copies of the book you sell.
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Speaker 2: The New York Times is going to insist that that
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Speaker 2: like left Handed Transgender Witches is the number one book
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Speaker 2: in America, and to be fair, in the New York
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Speaker 2: Times newsroom, it probably is the number one book in America.
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Speaker 2: But if you get outside the New York Times and
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Speaker 2: to the rest of America, there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: people right now that are going to Amazon. Go to
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Speaker 2: Amazon right now by Eric truck Trump's book, keep it
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Speaker 2: at number one, Annoy a liberal by two, buy one
10:29
Speaker 2: for yourself, and buy one to give a liberal just
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Speaker 2: to drive them crazy, and and and to say, explain
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Speaker 2: to me again how you think weaponization is a bad thing.
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Speaker 2: Because because your your liberal friends, to the extent you
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Speaker 2: have any that they haven't defriended you, they're not going
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Speaker 2: to have an answer to that. Eric, tell me, what
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Speaker 2: was your dad's reaction when you went in and and
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Speaker 2: told them, okay, the FBI agents are here. I assume
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Speaker 2: he was pissed, but like, what was his immediate reaction
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Speaker 2: when you tell him that.
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Speaker 3: It was actually remarkably calm.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's you know, I've seen my father
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Speaker 4: pissed many times, but he doesn't get pissed off in
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Speaker 4: situations of kind of like great anguish and stress. Right,
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Speaker 4: it's no different than Butler, but you know, almost foreshadow
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Speaker 4: Butler is the same thing. It's it's I probably would
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Speaker 4: have been pissed in Butler, and I think he was
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Speaker 4: actually remarkably calm, especially in the aftermath of what happened.
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Speaker 4: And you know he was always his commist in the
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Speaker 4: worst moments, always, I mean and center. You saw many
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Speaker 4: of them. I mean you were there for many of
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Speaker 4: them in so many different ways. You know, he never
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Speaker 4: let emotion fly. It was it was a very he goes,
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Speaker 4: you gotta be kidding me, all right, honey, meet me
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Speaker 4: in my office. You know, we're going to write up
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Speaker 4: a statement. And that's when he let that truth fly.
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Speaker 4: And you know, the rest is history. I mean, for
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Speaker 4: the next month, they had helicopters buzzing over mar a
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Speaker 4: Lago and you know the scenes of that front gate.
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Speaker 4: You remember this, the cop car from the front gate
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Speaker 4: of mar Lago. I mean, mar Lago became, not that
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Speaker 4: it wasn't probably already, but he became the most famous
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Speaker 4: property in the world. Based on on that raid and
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Speaker 4: what they did, and then the aftermath of all of it,
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Speaker 4: we find out Jack Smith was bringing in classified folders
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Speaker 4: and effectively staging photo shoots on the office floor of
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Speaker 4: my father's you know office. But you know, as I
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Speaker 4: said before, guys, I mean they were going through Malania's closet,
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Speaker 4: they were going through Baron's room. They literally they took
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Speaker 4: his medical records, right like hip a related records.
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Speaker 3: That pissed off the judge. I can only tell you.
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Speaker 4: They took attorney client documents right That also really pissed
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Speaker 4: off Aileen Cannon, the judge on the case.
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Speaker 3: You just you couldn't believe it. And then you know, again,
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Speaker 3: all of this was stage.
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Speaker 4: You think Donald Trump just leaves classified folders fanned out
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Speaker 4: perfectly on the floor. I mean, it was all staged.
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Speaker 4: It was all set up. They wanted to imprison him.
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Speaker 4: They wanted to take his voice. They wanted to imprison him.
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Speaker 4: They wanted him behind bars. They didn't want him to
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Speaker 4: be able to campaign. They wanted to weaponize the system
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Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form, and they weren't able
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Speaker 4: to do it.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people remember the deep platforming, and you
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Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier, and you go back to the end
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Speaker 1: of his first term in office. But one of the
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Speaker 1: things you mentioned earlier on was they tried to ruin
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Speaker 1: your businesses by d banking, you can you explain for
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Speaker 1: people that don't understand just how critical that was in
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Speaker 1: a time and the Trump organization. Mean, you've been handed
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Speaker 1: the family business to run it, and now you're finding
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Speaker 1: out you can't even have banking the way that you
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Speaker 1: need to have banking to literally run businesses, whether you're
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Speaker 1: big business or a small business. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: listening right now. If you don't have a bank, you
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Speaker 1: don't have a business.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, it was that times one hundred.
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Speaker 4: I mean they they literally it was coordinated by the administration,
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Speaker 4: There's no question about it. And they called up and
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Speaker 4: they said, listen, congratulations, you cancel the account. I was
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Speaker 4: getting these letters. I got one from Capital One. They
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Speaker 4: had three hundred bank accounts. And these aren't like baby
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Speaker 4: bank accounts. These are massive commercial buildings that have hundreds
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Speaker 4: of tenants, you know, thousands of people working in these buildings,
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Speaker 4: hundreds if not thousands, of vendors, heavy real estate taxes,
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Speaker 4: I mean people, hundreds and hundreds of people depend their
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Speaker 4: livelihoods depend on on these businesses.
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Speaker 3: They've got complicated lock.
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Speaker 4: Box provisions and loan you know, loan documents, thousands of inputs,
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Speaker 4: coming in like this, you know, and they just called up.
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Speaker 4: You know, your accounts are going to get closed. You've
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Speaker 4: got one or two days to move them, and congratulations,
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Speaker 4: you're done. All because we wore a hat that said
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Speaker 4: make America great Again.
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Speaker 3: That was read.
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Speaker 4: These were commercial buildings, these were condominium associations, these were
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Speaker 4: small golf courses, these were you know, residential shops, these
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Speaker 4: were scrow accounts, things that had nothing to do, nothing
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Speaker 4: to do with politics whatsoever. And they canceled us like
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Speaker 4: we were dogs. Capital One was the worst. JP Morgan
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Speaker 4: was horrible. Bank of America was horrible. First Republic was terrible.
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't just the banks. It was platform Shopify.
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Speaker 4: Shopify literally gave us a notice they do all the
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Speaker 4: e comm platforms in the middle of the night, turned
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Speaker 4: off our accounts like we were nothing right. We were
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Speaker 4: selling golf polos that we have, you know, from mar
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Speaker 4: A Lago, and they did everything they could to hurt us,
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Speaker 4: to turn off the rails right again. They wanted our
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Speaker 4: voice gone, They wanted us bankrupt, they wanted the name
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Speaker 4: off of every building. They wanted us thrown out of
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Speaker 4: New York. You had Letitia James. That was trying to
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Speaker 4: repossess our assets. I mean, it was almost like forfeiture.
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Speaker 4: It was not constitutional. Hence the reason the appellate courts
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Speaker 4: throughout the case five zero and we got a resounding
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Speaker 4: victory two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Guys, they tried everything they could.
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Speaker 4: And because I was the guy outside of Washington, DC,
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Speaker 4: because I ran the company, it all fell on me.
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Speaker 4: That's how I became the most subpoened person the history
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Speaker 4: of this country. Having never done a damn thing wrong.
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Speaker 4: They wanted to get to my father coming through me.
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Speaker 2: That Now, were these business accounts, personal accounts both, I mean,
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Speaker 2: how many accounts are we talking about? Roughly like what.
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Speaker 3: Five five hundred?
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Speaker 4: You know, lots of those being business accounts, all of
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Speaker 4: them being us. You know, my wife has a like
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Speaker 4: athletic clothing line. You know, JP Morgan Chase wouldn't open
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Speaker 4: up an account, so you know, for her, she's not
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, she's not the Trump organization. They did this
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Speaker 4: to everyone in the family. If you even came close.
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Speaker 4: You know, if you even came close. I have a
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Speaker 4: little farm with a couple buddies. They canceled that account.
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Speaker 4: Doesn't wear a Trump name. It can't they were indiscriminate
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Speaker 4: if it was six degrees of sep the narration from Trump,
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Speaker 4: they canceled us and one guys, you know, I'm an outspoken,
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Speaker 4: you know, a big fan of of you know, cryptocurrency.
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Speaker 4: That's how I found crypto because I realized how quickly
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Speaker 4: financial institutions can be weaponized against the American people and
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Speaker 4: realize that there's nothing that can be done on you know,
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Speaker 4: using traditional financial institutions that can't be done better faster, cheaper, safer,
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Speaker 4: and more efficiently using cryptocurrency.
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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm the biggest proponent of it.
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Speaker 2: Did did they even even purport to give you any
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Speaker 2: explanation or do they just say oh, it's canceled like
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Speaker 2: like that that they didn't Was there any details or
16:33
Speaker 2: you just get phone calls or get an email and say, okay,
16:36
Speaker 2: this this account's done.
16:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
16:38
Speaker 4: Other other than a lot of those you know a
16:39
Speaker 4: lot of the people that worked in the in the
16:41
Speaker 4: banks who otherwise said this is the most I can't
16:43
Speaker 4: believe it. I can't believe what my bank's doing. This
16:45
Speaker 4: is all political, That's what they're saying in the corridors
16:47
Speaker 4: every day they canceled you for political reasons. There's no
16:50
Speaker 4: other explanation. They're telling us, you know, they're telling us,
16:53
Speaker 4: we can't talk to you ever.
16:54
Speaker 3: Again.
16:55
Speaker 4: I was unbelievable, and I would not wish that on
16:57
Speaker 4: my worst enemy. To take the race of being able
17:01
Speaker 4: to pay employees. These are housekeepers, these are janitors, these
17:04
Speaker 4: are engineers, these are security officers, these are drivers, hospitality workers,
17:09
Speaker 4: to not be able to pay them a salary, all
17:12
Speaker 4: because somebody wanted to politicize a system against a candidate,
17:16
Speaker 4: because they happened to be a conservative and they believed
17:19
Speaker 4: in making America great again.
17:22
Speaker 1: SATA, this is a story that we're hearing about the
17:26
Speaker 1: weaponization of the private sector, not the gover, but the
17:29
Speaker 1: private sector against the Trump organization. The moment that he
17:34
Speaker 1: just said, five hundred bankcounts just shut down, I'm shocked
17:38
Speaker 1: by that. I think you were as well.
17:40
Speaker 2: That number. I'd never heard anything remotely close to that.
17:43
Speaker 2: I mean, that really is stunning. So you're running your
17:47
Speaker 2: families outside businesses, you get these calls. What do you
17:51
Speaker 2: do when you're given what you said twenty four hours
17:54
Speaker 2: forty eight hours notice, Like, were there banks that were
17:58
Speaker 2: willing to welcome your business or or what did you
18:01
Speaker 2: do with five hundred accounts being canceled.
18:04
Speaker 4: You had a lot of attorney generals and you had
18:05
Speaker 4: a lot of government institutions that were going to these
18:07
Speaker 4: banks saying, don't even think about it, don't touch that account.
18:10
Speaker 3: You know.
18:10
Speaker 4: Letitia James was doing that to the bonding companies when
18:13
Speaker 4: we had to after the initial ruling, when we had
18:15
Speaker 4: to post a six hundred million dollar bond. By the way,
18:19
Speaker 4: that that was like five times the size of the
18:21
Speaker 4: Boeing bond that made them, you know that literally, I
18:24
Speaker 4: it was. It was the biggest bond ever seen in
18:27
Speaker 4: the country, you know. And she was going to the
18:29
Speaker 4: very same institutions saying, don't even touch that bond. So
18:32
Speaker 4: we had to post a bond based on the court
18:34
Speaker 4: before we had everything overturned, and she was going to
18:36
Speaker 4: the biggest assurance company saying, you don't touch that bond.
18:39
Speaker 4: You know, you're registered in New York and if you
18:41
Speaker 4: touched that bond, I'm going to think less favorably on you.
18:44
Speaker 4: That's how badly they weaponize the system. What do you
18:47
Speaker 4: do when you get those letters? You want to crawl
18:49
Speaker 4: under your desk, And honestly, I had I had probably
18:52
Speaker 4: one hundred people in the company that didn't sleep for
18:54
Speaker 4: a six month period of time, who were distraught. And
18:57
Speaker 4: thank god we had enough little local banks. You know
19:00
Speaker 4: that that you move all the accounts. I'm thinking about
19:02
Speaker 4: it right to these little local branches who want to
19:05
Speaker 4: take your money. But these weren't the JP Morgans, these
19:07
Speaker 4: weren't the Bank of Americas. They were still a little
19:10
Speaker 4: They were small, little mom and pop regional banks that
19:13
Speaker 4: did the right thing and honestly probably saved us based
19:15
Speaker 4: on the fact that they were willing to do the
19:17
Speaker 4: right thing. This didn't just happen to us. I was
19:19
Speaker 4: on the campaign trail, I'd hear from people every single day.
19:22
Speaker 4: You know, my bank canceled me. Why well, my company
19:25
Speaker 4: makes the spring, and the spring goes in a fishing reel,
19:28
Speaker 4: and that fishing reel sold at bass pro shops, and
19:30
Speaker 4: bass pro shops sells twelve games duck hunting Ammo, and
19:33
Speaker 4: they thought the affiliation. I heard this everywhere I went.
19:37
Speaker 4: I heard it from the crypto guys. I believed in bitcoin,
19:39
Speaker 4: I believed in stable coin, I believe in the future
19:41
Speaker 4: of kind of modern finance. And because I believed in
19:45
Speaker 4: crypto currency, my banks canceled me. Well, COVID canceled me,
19:48
Speaker 4: Bank of America canceled me. Guys, I heard this all
19:51
Speaker 4: over the place. You know, we need to make this illegal,
19:54
Speaker 4: and it is. It's illegal and a lot of states
19:57
Speaker 4: and under a lot of banking clauses. But the fact
20:00
Speaker 4: you can literally I mean, could you imagine if if
20:02
Speaker 4: AT and T or Rising just decided to cancel all
20:05
Speaker 4: conservative cell phones?
20:07
Speaker 5: Yeah?
20:08
Speaker 3: Right.
20:08
Speaker 4: If you can't bank, you can't survive. If you can't bank,
20:12
Speaker 4: you can't eat. If you can't bank, you can't pay employees.
20:16
Speaker 4: And yet they turned us off like we were dogs.
20:18
Speaker 5: How much money do you think that Trump?
20:20
Speaker 1: When you guys were out during the four years and
20:22
Speaker 1: under siege like this, how many business deals got blown
20:25
Speaker 1: up because people were afraid even to just do business
20:28
Speaker 1: with you, because they're afraid their business would be affected
20:30
Speaker 1: negatively and they could be targeted. I'm assuming that was
20:33
Speaker 1: a reality for quite some time.
20:35
Speaker 4: Well, I talk a lot about it in the book.
20:36
Speaker 4: I mean the reporters that just made their whole livelihoods.
20:40
Speaker 4: David Farrenholdt from the Washington Post and others, you know,
20:43
Speaker 4: made their entire livelihoods calling up you know, vendors of
20:47
Speaker 4: ours calling up our employees, calling up brides and grooms
20:50
Speaker 4: that we're gonna get married at one of the properties,
20:51
Speaker 4: one of the hotels.
20:53
Speaker 1: And they were harassing people that were getting married at
20:56
Speaker 1: Trump resorts.
20:57
Speaker 4: Oh I have I have more emails than you can
21:00
Speaker 4: possibly imagine. You know, I hear you're gonna go get
21:02
Speaker 4: married at at M mar Lago. Oh really, you know
21:05
Speaker 4: this might have to make the front cover of a
21:07
Speaker 4: respective paper, you know, can you please give me comment?
21:10
Speaker 4: And these brides and grooms were saying, I just want
21:12
Speaker 4: to get married in peace, you know, I just you know,
21:14
Speaker 4: there's a beautiful property. I'm not a political person. I
21:17
Speaker 4: just you know it's it's it's a five star property.
21:19
Speaker 4: I love the place. It's convenient. My family lives nearby.
21:23
Speaker 4: Whatever the hell of the reason they were doing that,
21:25
Speaker 4: They were extorting employees. They were going up to employees,
21:28
Speaker 4: and they frankly tried to do it to me. Hey,
21:30
Speaker 4: you tell us anything about Donald Trump, will let you go.
21:32
Speaker 3: You know, all your problems.
21:34
Speaker 5: They tried to turn you against your own father.
21:37
Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg, Are you kidding me?
21:40
Speaker 4: The Cyrus Vance, all of them, they they weaponized every
21:44
Speaker 4: da in and ag to try and flip every single
21:47
Speaker 4: person to say anything negative, to get any negative testimony
21:51
Speaker 4: against Donald Trump for their own political purposes. Absolutely, that
21:55
Speaker 4: was the whole game they played. And no one in
21:57
Speaker 4: our company broke.
21:58
Speaker 3: Guys.
21:58
Speaker 4: This was the siege that I dealt with every single day, right,
22:01
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was all of these factors
22:03
Speaker 4: that came together, all at once, all the time, doing anything.
22:07
Speaker 3: They could to to to just chop us off.
22:10
Speaker 4: At every single I mean when they made up the
22:13
Speaker 4: dirty dossier, when they made up right, I mean, they
22:16
Speaker 4: have stories about prostitution in there, about golden you know
22:19
Speaker 4: what's right? What do you think they were trying. They
22:21
Speaker 4: were trying to divorce my father. They were trying to
22:23
Speaker 4: destroy his marriage. They were trying to break up our family.
22:26
Speaker 4: That's what they were trying to do. Also, a greedy
22:29
Speaker 4: woman could get, you know again, two more votes. These
22:32
Speaker 4: people are sick, These people are deranged, and there's been
22:34
Speaker 4: zero accountability for any of it. And as a son
22:39
Speaker 4: who fought by my father's side every single day during
22:41
Speaker 4: this battle, somebody had to tell this story. Somebody had
22:44
Speaker 4: to tell the inside perspective of the lens that a
22:47
Speaker 4: corrupt government will go to besides just spying on campaigns
22:51
Speaker 4: and despise just you know, raiding homes, you know, all
22:55
Speaker 4: the things that they did to try and destroy us,
22:57
Speaker 4: to try and destroy make America great again, and try
22:59
Speaker 4: and construer destroy conservatives all across the country.
23:03
Speaker 2: Look, it was unmitigated evil and it was driven part
23:06
Speaker 2: of it was driven by hate. Today, the defining characteristic
23:09
Speaker 2: I think of the Democrat Party.
23:11
Speaker 3: Is they hate your father.
23:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they hate your family. I mean that anything
23:16
Speaker 2: connected to your father they hate. And I think it also, though,
23:20
Speaker 2: was a deep contempt for democracy. I think every one
23:23
Speaker 2: of these indictments, I think the weaponization that we saw
23:26
Speaker 2: their underlying terror is that the voters would do what
23:30
Speaker 2: they did in November of twenty twenty four and vote
23:32
Speaker 2: to re elect your father. And this was all about
23:35
Speaker 2: undermining democracy and preventing the voters from doing that. You know, Eric,
23:40
Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier that you described yourself as as the
23:42
Speaker 2: most subpoena man in America. How many subpoenas did you
23:46
Speaker 2: get and did you testify a lot of times? Were
23:49
Speaker 2: they demanding documents? What subpoenas were coming?
23:51
Speaker 4: In one hundred and twelve subpoenas I sat in more
23:54
Speaker 4: depositions than any human being in the history of depositions.
23:58
Speaker 4: And by the way, these are like big boy subpoenas, right,
24:00
Speaker 4: They're all coming from you, your close friend Elizabeth Warren
24:02
Speaker 4: as we like to call her Pocahontas, and and many
24:05
Speaker 4: others we turned over. I mean, they would ask for
24:08
Speaker 4: document discovery, you know, please give us every email in
24:11
Speaker 4: the company, and they would list a thousand words. But
24:13
Speaker 4: aside from that, they would list national and international. Well,
24:15
Speaker 4: all our hotels are Trump International Hotel, and all our
24:18
Speaker 4: golf courses are Trump National Golf Course. You could probably
24:21
Speaker 4: see where this is going. Every email signature of every
24:25
Speaker 4: person in the company either has the word national or
24:27
Speaker 4: international in it. That's their fishing expedition. I actually brought
24:30
Speaker 4: this to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court specifically
24:32
Speaker 4: told them you can't fish, right, and they did it.
24:35
Speaker 4: They did it any way. The judges didn't give a damn.
24:37
Speaker 4: They wanted to find any comma that was out of place,
24:40
Speaker 4: and they couldn't. I mean, in the Letitia James trial,
24:44
Speaker 4: literally Deutsche Bank was on the stand saying that Trump
24:46
Speaker 4: was the best lender that they've ever had. Right, we
24:48
Speaker 4: made them, hundreds of millions of dollars paid off, every loan,
24:51
Speaker 4: paid it off ahead of time, never missed a payment.
24:54
Speaker 4: Even in the darkest days of COVID when they made
24:56
Speaker 4: a shutdown our properties, we never missed, we never faulted,
25:00
Speaker 4: we never breached a covenant. And then one day I
25:03
Speaker 4: wake up to the nightmare of your fine six hundred
25:05
Speaker 4: million dollars for doing nothing wrong with banks that loved us,
25:08
Speaker 4: that testified that they loved us. I mean it was
25:11
Speaker 4: you know, and that's because you had a crooked judge. Again,
25:13
Speaker 4: got overturned five zero at the next court. But they
25:17
Speaker 4: rigged out the entire system. And you're seeing them do
25:19
Speaker 4: that right now, right You're seeing them do that in Washington, DC,
25:22
Speaker 4: where ninety four percent of the cases that go in
25:24
Speaker 4: front of the lower Course are are literally you know,
25:27
Speaker 4: going against the administration and then they all have to
25:30
Speaker 4: go up on a po and get overturned. But guys,
25:32
Speaker 4: the beautiful thing about the story is we won, right.
25:36
Speaker 4: I mean, the media loss, The media lost their credibility.
25:39
Speaker 4: No one likes the mainstream media. I mean, my wife
25:42
Speaker 4: is on Fox News on a Saturday and nine pm,
25:45
Speaker 4: and she's getting four extra ratings of CNN on the
25:49
Speaker 4: same time slot on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in primetime slots. Right,
25:54
Speaker 4: no one likes the mainstream media. ABC's dead, NBC's dead,
25:57
Speaker 4: CNN's dead. An independent voice is like, these podcasts are
26:01
Speaker 4: winning the day.
26:03
Speaker 2: And by the way, she she is doing an awesome job.
26:05
Speaker 2: I had a chance to be on her show, and
26:07
Speaker 2: she's she's a great interviewer because she's relaxed, she's having fun,
26:10
Speaker 2: she's asking real questions and and it's night and day. Uh,
26:14
Speaker 2: you know, I I will occasionally do do CNN. Poor
26:18
Speaker 2: Ben was on CNN for six seven years. I actually
26:20
Speaker 2: think he has a padded room and he like like
26:23
Speaker 2: puts on a straightjacuality, remembers those times.
26:25
Speaker 5: Fighting comedies for seven years.
26:27
Speaker 4: Hey listen, I just came off Caitlyn Collins about twenty
26:29
Speaker 4: minutes ago.
26:30
Speaker 1: Right, So it's not some prayers.
26:35
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's so bad. Let me ask you
26:40
Speaker 2: when all of this was coming in, And it is
26:43
Speaker 2: not exaggeration to say there has never been a political
26:46
Speaker 2: leader subject to more weaponization, more assaults, more insanely unfair
26:56
Speaker 2: attacks than that than your father has been. Was there
26:59
Speaker 2: ever time that that you felt yourself giving in to
27:03
Speaker 2: despair and and do you think your dad ever did.
27:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, it's like we're like masochistic, We like we
27:09
Speaker 4: like pain or something along those lines. Right, It's like
27:11
Speaker 4: a weird trade, right, And I think it served us well.
27:14
Speaker 4: But now I think we were so pissed off at
27:16
Speaker 4: that point. We wanted to fight, and we wanted to win.
27:18
Speaker 4: And we want to save the Constitution. We want to
27:20
Speaker 4: save the American flag. We wanted to save religion in society.
27:23
Speaker 4: We want to save the you know, Second Amendment. We
27:25
Speaker 4: want to end end wokeness. We wanted to stop the
27:29
Speaker 4: dei nonsense, you know, men my size swimming in women's sport.
27:34
Speaker 4: We wanted to save the greatest country in the world
27:36
Speaker 4: against absolute lunacy. And so we never gave up. We
27:40
Speaker 4: never stopped fighting. We went out there and we punched
27:42
Speaker 4: back every single day, and we did that as a family.
27:44
Speaker 4: I never left that stage, And honestly, I've never been
27:47
Speaker 4: more proud of a human being in my life.
27:50
Speaker 1: All Right, So, our guests with us is Eric Trump center.
27:53
Speaker 1: You and I were just talking with him about this,
27:56
Speaker 1: really his family being under siege. You talked about these
27:59
Speaker 1: big boys as part of that is to financially hurt you.
28:05
Speaker 1: What did you, guys, spend just doing the fighting of
28:09
Speaker 1: all the lawsuits against you during that four year period.
28:12
Speaker 1: How much did it cost you?
28:14
Speaker 4: Roughly four hundred million, guys. I laugh when people, oh,
28:19
Speaker 4: Trump is profiting off of government. I go, wait, wait,
28:22
Speaker 4: excuse me. If you want to come in, I'll break
28:24
Speaker 4: down the finances you want to Trump's profit. We spent
28:27
Speaker 4: four hundred million dollars to defend ourselves against nonsense, the
28:32
Speaker 4: fact that we did not have secret servers communicating with
28:34
Speaker 4: the Kremlin, the fact that Don wasn't a Russian agent.
28:39
Speaker 4: Remember you had Adam Schiff out there every single day.
28:41
Speaker 4: Donald Trump Junior is a Russian agent.
28:44
Speaker 3: Guys.
28:44
Speaker 4: If he wasn't, if he wasn't protected by the speech
28:47
Speaker 4: and debate laws, you would have, honestly, the guy.
28:50
Speaker 3: Would have been worth a zero.
28:51
Speaker 4: He would have been living in a shoe box based
28:53
Speaker 4: on the fact that you would have sued him for
28:54
Speaker 4: slander and taken everything that he ever had. It was
28:58
Speaker 4: all made up. They did everything they possibly could to
29:02
Speaker 4: take us down. We spent over four hundred million dollars
29:04
Speaker 4: between that. You know, Letitia, you know Alvin Braggs side Vance,
29:08
Speaker 4: you know, if Fanny, I mean, I could.
29:10
Speaker 2: Go on and on the raids the mara alag What
29:12
Speaker 2: was the worst to deal with between Alvin braggsie Vance,
29:15
Speaker 2: Leticia James jack Smith? Who was the worst?
29:18
Speaker 4: Probably did Letitia if you want to know the truth,
29:20
Speaker 4: I mean, it was so corrupt and I don't know
29:24
Speaker 4: Alvin Braggbaus. You had Brshawn, I mean, Judge Barhawn's daughter
29:27
Speaker 4: is like that, the head digital fundraiser for the Democratic Party,
29:31
Speaker 4: and the guy wouldn't recuse himself, and literally you'd be
29:33
Speaker 4: sitting in these courtrooms, guys, and I would not leave
29:35
Speaker 4: my father's side. I sat next to him every single day.
29:39
Speaker 4: If he was there, I was going to be there
29:40
Speaker 4: as a son to support him, you know. And most
29:43
Speaker 4: of the time some of these cases I wasn't gagged
29:45
Speaker 4: in so normally I was the guy in the courthouse steps,
29:47
Speaker 4: you know, shouting and yelling at the cameras as to
29:49
Speaker 4: what the hell was actually going on, because that's the
29:50
Speaker 4: only way you could communicate a message. But guys, I mean,
29:53
Speaker 4: you had liberal and I mean liberal reporters who were
29:56
Speaker 4: in that courtroom shaking their heads saying none of this
29:59
Speaker 4: makes it. I mean, they shut down all of Manhattan,
30:03
Speaker 4: Lower Manhattan for a hundred thousand dollars payment that my
30:06
Speaker 4: father didn't even make, made by a lawyer. They indicted
30:10
Speaker 4: him thirty four times. I mean, you know, al Capone
30:13
Speaker 4: had had one felony indictment. They indicted my father thirty
30:16
Speaker 4: four times for one hundred thousand dollars payment, by the way,
30:20
Speaker 4: by a district attorney who ran on the premise, you know,
30:23
Speaker 4: of reducing what you know, just decriminalizing just about anything.
30:27
Speaker 4: You know, you can shoot somebody in the face in
30:28
Speaker 4: Times Square and it was decriminalized, and you're gonna let
30:31
Speaker 4: them out, and you know you're gonna have community policing
30:33
Speaker 4: and all sorts of nonsense. I mean, he ran on
30:35
Speaker 4: the premise of literally emptying Rikers Island so you had
30:38
Speaker 4: no criminals in there. Yet you know, thirty four felonies
30:41
Speaker 4: in six month period of time is shutting down New
30:43
Speaker 4: York in the FDR drive every day over one hundred
30:45
Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
30:45
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't believable.
30:47
Speaker 2: If if only your father were mugging people in Times Square,
30:51
Speaker 2: then Alvin Bragg would never have prosecuted him, But instead
30:54
Speaker 2: he committed the unspeakable sin of not only being president
30:58
Speaker 2: of the United States, but being an extra ordinarily successful
31:01
Speaker 2: and bold president of the United States, which which is
31:04
Speaker 2: an unpardonable sin. All right, we don't have much much
31:07
Speaker 2: time left, but but I want to take it a
31:08
Speaker 2: little bit lighter and and ask what was it like?
31:13
Speaker 4: Like?
31:13
Speaker 2: Your father is is unique. I've never in my life
31:17
Speaker 2: have I met anyone remotely like your father. He and
31:20
Speaker 2: I have spent a lot of time together. He has
31:22
Speaker 2: extraordinary courage. But before he was president, what was it
31:26
Speaker 2: like growing up as a kid with Donald Trump as
31:29
Speaker 2: your father? Like, like, like, how what was he like
31:31
Speaker 2: as a dad when you were ten?
31:34
Speaker 3: Honestly, the greatest dad you can ever imagine.
31:36
Speaker 4: Expected big things from us, right, I mean every day
31:39
Speaker 4: I go give him kiss before I went to school. Honey,
31:41
Speaker 4: no drink drinking, no drugs, no smoking. You better get
31:43
Speaker 4: good grades. And by the way, never trust anybody. Right
31:45
Speaker 4: he did once in a while I had that he
31:46
Speaker 4: never never trust anyone. Hey, that's probably that was gonna be.
31:50
Speaker 4: I said, I've probably benefited us pretty well, so amazing guy.
31:54
Speaker 4: You know, listen, we're spoiled as hell, and that we
31:55
Speaker 4: lived in you know, Trump Tower. We had beautiful roof overhead.
31:58
Speaker 4: We were always well fed. We we had the best education.
32:01
Speaker 4: But we were never handed money. We're never handy cash.
32:04
Speaker 4: If we wanted something, If I wanted a fishing road, congratulations,
32:07
Speaker 4: you're working for it. I got on our construction sites
32:09
Speaker 4: when I was eleven years old, doing demo, doing electrical HVAC,
32:12
Speaker 4: you know, running back hose excavators. You know, I grew
32:16
Speaker 4: up working with my hands on our construction sites with
32:18
Speaker 4: many of the guys that work for me today. And
32:21
Speaker 4: you know what, he wanted us to learn a trait.
32:22
Speaker 4: He wanted us to learn the value of a dollar.
32:25
Speaker 4: And by the way, he wanted us to be tired
32:26
Speaker 4: as hell at the end of the day. You know,
32:28
Speaker 4: because listen, don't give Type A kids or any kid.
32:31
Speaker 4: But don't give Type A kids money or free time,
32:33
Speaker 4: because bad things happen. And he was an amazing father.
32:37
Speaker 4: He is an amazing father. And everything we've ever done
32:39
Speaker 4: we fought together, whether it's real estate, whether it was
32:41
Speaker 4: the Apprentice. I was on that for seven seasons, and
32:44
Speaker 4: then in politics. I mean, when he decided to run,
32:47
Speaker 4: he said to us, he goes, you know, kids, let's
32:49
Speaker 4: do this. You know, I was on Meghan Kelly. I
32:50
Speaker 4: didn't know what the hell immigration was. I mean, Senator,
32:53
Speaker 4: this was not my world. I built, you know, hotels,
32:56
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I'm in the middle of box.
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Speaker 5: I got a wall, and now you're on TV.
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Speaker 4: I've got ninety illegal immigrants around me and I'm battling
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Speaker 4: all of them. And I don't know the first damn
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Speaker 4: thing about illegal immigration, right. I mean, like, this is
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Speaker 4: not the world that we came from. But my father's
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Speaker 4: a remarkable guy. My mother was an amazing powerhouse and strict,
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Speaker 4: demanded manners, demanded respect, demanded work ethic and either the
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Speaker 4: greatest parents you can ever imagine. I spent a lot
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Speaker 4: of time in underseage talking about, you know, being raised
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Speaker 4: by them, and you know, it was unique in so
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Speaker 4: many ways. But they they did everything they could in
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Speaker 4: this strange world that we lived in to ground us
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Speaker 4: and make sure we turned out to be hard workers, normal,
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Speaker 4: you know, and didn't have any of these kind of
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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden esque problems. I don't have a laptop from hell,
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't do finger paintings selling it to
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Speaker 4: you know, foreign nationals all over the world. You know,
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Speaker 4: never married my you know, my brother's ex wife, like,
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Speaker 4: never did that kind of stuff. No drugs, no, you know,
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Speaker 4: no perversion. I was always a good kid who believed
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Speaker 4: in God and believed in hard work and you know,
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Speaker 4: lived an honest life.
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Speaker 2: Eric, I can't tell you how many times, dozens, if
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Speaker 2: not hundreds of times people have conte that one of
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Speaker 2: the things they admire most about your dad, uh is
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Speaker 2: is you and your brothers and sisters. And listen, it
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Speaker 2: is hard for for any successful person to to raise
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Speaker 2: good kids. It's challenging. There's a lot of pressure and
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Speaker 2: and you know, I I know know your entire family,
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Speaker 2: and I will say literally people early on throughout the process,
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Speaker 2: they'll comment, well, you know, somehow his kids are like
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Speaker 2: like not messed up and incredibly successful and put together
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Speaker 2: and and I mean, it's all right.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
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Speaker 2: Let's let let's say we have some young parents that
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Speaker 2: are listening to this podcast. Are there any lessons a
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Speaker 2: young parent by the way, uh, you know Ben Ben
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Speaker 2: has young kids, I have teenage. Are there any lessons
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Speaker 2: any lessons from your dad that that young parents should
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Speaker 2: know or lessons that that you've tried to apply.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep them poor and make them start working early. Honestly,
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Speaker 4: I mean that's what it is. Keep keep them poor,
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Speaker 4: don't don't give type A kids money and don't give
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Speaker 4: them endless time. That's just a bad recipe, right, And
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Speaker 4: you know, I can't tell you, guys how many friends
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Speaker 4: I had, you know, who were peers who went to
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Speaker 4: school with me, And you know, three quarters of them
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Speaker 4: ended up in rehab and and a lot of them
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Speaker 4: went down bad roads. And guess what they were getting
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Speaker 4: ferraris you know when they're you know, sixteen years old, Like,
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Speaker 4: what do you ever want to aspire to to get
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Speaker 4: if that's if that's how you're being raised. I mean,
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Speaker 4: does it surprise you that those people don't have work ethic?
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Speaker 4: Does it surprise you that they would go down bad roads?
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Speaker 4: And my father would never let that happen to us,
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Speaker 4: And you know he made us work our butts off.
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Speaker 4: And believe me, if I wasn't good at what I
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Speaker 4: did real estate wise, I would not be in this chair.
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Speaker 4: I mean, forget about bapotism for a second. It you know,
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Speaker 4: if we weren't incredibly capable, believe me, I wouldn't be
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Speaker 4: running one of the largest real estate empires anywhere in
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Speaker 4: the world. And he made us work, and he made
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Speaker 4: us prove that we were good at what we do,
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Speaker 4: and we fought every single day. And we're an incredibly
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Speaker 4: tight family. And he's a remarkable person. He's my best friend.
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Speaker 4: I love him to death, and I'm so proud of him,
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Speaker 4: especially in a week where he's accomplished as much as
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Speaker 4: he had. I am so damn pros out of what
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Speaker 4: he did and what he's accomplished and the hell of
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Speaker 4: a journey. Guys, It's all worth it. This is all
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Speaker 4: worth it. The siege is all worth it based on,
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Speaker 4: you know, the great things that are happening to our country.
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Speaker 3: And our world.
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