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The War on California’s Fraud Epidemic Begins plus A Four‑Decade Timeline of Iranian Aggression · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: JD. Vance. He's got a new job. Yeah, he's still
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  Speaker 1: the Vice president, but now he's leading that task force
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  Speaker 1: to eliminate fraud. And now the Centers for Medicare and
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  Speaker 1: Medicaid Services have identified and suspended seventy hospice and home
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  Speaker 1: health businesses in Los Angeles alone that were flagged as
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  Speaker 1: high risk fraudulent providers. We've now learned. Now, let me
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  Speaker 1: just take you back a month when JD. Vance was
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  Speaker 1: announced for this position, and this is what he said
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen, and it's already happening now.
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  Speaker 2: Time you've got a new job. Here it is the
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  Speaker 2: announcement last night from the President.
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  Speaker 3: I'm officially announcing the War on fraud, to be led
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  Speaker 3: by our great Vice President JD. Vince. We all get
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  Speaker 3: it done, and we're able to find enough of that fraud,
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  Speaker 3: we will actually have a balanced budget overnight.
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  Speaker 2: So here are some of the allegations. California eight billion
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  Speaker 2: and suspected COVID fraud, Minnesota nineteen, Massachusetts almost fifteen, and
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  Speaker 2: Main forty five million in improper medicaid payments. As you
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  Speaker 2: look at this, go ahead and explain it to us,
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  Speaker 2: because we want to understand.
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  Speaker 4: What the job is, and what do you build up?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the number is?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what the top line number bill is.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's unfortunate that nobody has ever tried
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  Speaker 5: to take a systematic look at how much fraud there
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  Speaker 5: is in the federal government. How many illegal aliens are
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  Speaker 5: on Medicaid. We know that it's billions and billions of
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  Speaker 5: dollars that should go to American citizens, it's going to
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  Speaker 5: illegal aliens. How many fraudulent daycare centers have been set
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  Speaker 5: up where that money should go to American citizens to
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  Speaker 5: help their kids get into childcare, instead it's being stolen
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  Speaker 5: from them by illegal aliens in our country. How much
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  Speaker 5: has have government officials actually been complicit in this fraud
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  Speaker 5: because some of them have gotten wealthy, or at the
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  Speaker 5: least they've gotten campaign donations from the people who have
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  Speaker 5: gotten rich from that fraud. The story of the American
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  Speaker 5: economy in so many ways during the Biden administration Bill
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  Speaker 5: is that the American citizen was ripped off for people
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  Speaker 5: who shouldn't be here and by politicians who should have
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  Speaker 5: known better. And the Trump administration, the President has asked
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  Speaker 5: me to take a full whole government approach to trying
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  Speaker 5: to understand that and what does that mean. Bill. That means,
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  Speaker 5: first of all, the Apartment of Justice is going to
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  Speaker 5: be investigating and where possible, throwing fraudsters in prison. But
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  Speaker 5: it's also going to mean that Scott Bessent and some
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  Speaker 5: of our friends at the Treasury Department, we're going to
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  Speaker 5: be looking at income tax records. We're going to be
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  Speaker 5: trying to understand how it is that the American people
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  Speaker 5: have been defrauded, how it is that people have used
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  Speaker 5: resources and programs that should go to American citizens instead
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  Speaker 5: have been going to fraudule uses. There's a whole host
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  Speaker 5: of tools that we have that have never been used
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  Speaker 5: used and the President I talked about this a couple
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  Speaker 5: of months ago and said, what if we just did
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  Speaker 5: everything that we could to stop the fraud that's being
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  Speaker 5: committed against the American taxpayer. The President said, great idea,
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  Speaker 5: Let's do it, and we're going to work on that
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  Speaker 5: very aggressively over the next year.
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  Speaker 2: Need a quick answer over the next year is that
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  Speaker 2: the timeframe is that twelve months?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's going to continue beyond that. But I think
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  Speaker 5: that we've already discovered a lot build and really I
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  Speaker 5: think the year the next year is where we're going
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  Speaker 5: to try to uncover as much as possible and run
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  Speaker 5: at this as much as we can. But it's not
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  Speaker 5: going to stop.
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  Speaker 1: After a year now. As you heard the Vice President
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  Speaker 1: say there, this is all about having a task force
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  Speaker 1: to root out waste fraud and abuse. Well, now that's
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  Speaker 1: clearly ramping up, and we are expecting the number of
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  Speaker 1: investigations as of today to grow exponentially. The task force,
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  Speaker 1: which President Trump established earlier this month, now seeks to
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  Speaker 1: build on the work of addressing Minnesota fraud that VANCE
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  Speaker 1: and the CMS administrator doctor Oz announced last month. On
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  Speaker 1: February the twenty fifth, for example, Vance announced that the
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  Speaker 1: administration was halting certain amounts of medicaid funding to Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: until the state government learns to be good stewards of
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. Doctor Oz noted that there would be about
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty nine million in deferred payments for
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  Speaker 1: medicaid to the state of Minnesota alone. The task Force,
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  Speaker 1: through interagency coordination, will examine every state for waste fraud
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  Speaker 1: and abuse, is what sources are now saying, adding that
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  Speaker 1: the task force will follow cms's template in its early work,
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  Speaker 1: partially because of cms's data infrastructure for locating and taking
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  Speaker 1: action against those who may be committing fraud. Now, according
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  Speaker 1: to sources familiar with the matter, CMS has an AI
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  Speaker 1: driven in internal fraud detection system that can both flag
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  Speaker 1: claims for review and block claims flagged as likely fraudulent,
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  Speaker 1: and it will be scaled throughout the government to aid
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  Speaker 1: the Task Force in its mission. This year marks a
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  Speaker 1: task Force, they say, is in the process of onboarding
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  Speaker 1: CMS technologists to scale the AI system. In a statement
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  Speaker 1: to Brightbart News, spokesman from Vance's office said the Vice
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  Speaker 1: President is looking forward to carrying out the presence war
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  Speaker 1: on fraud, saying this, the American people deserve better than
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  Speaker 1: being ripped off by people who hate this country, and
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  Speaker 1: the Task Force to Eliminate Fraud will ensure that essential
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer funded services are used to support the hardworking Americans
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  Speaker 1: who rely on them instead of being used by fraudsters
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  Speaker 1: and criminals. Now, just a quick reminder, the fraud that
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  Speaker 1: we just talked about is only in La So how
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  Speaker 1: much fraud is there out there in California in general, well,
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars in frauds on hospice billing
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  Speaker 1: has been now tied to the state of California alone
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  Speaker 1: in broader healthcare and hospice fraud. Nationwide, billions and improper
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  Speaker 1: Medicare payments are being flagged as we speak now. California
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  Speaker 1: is consistently identified as the top state for suspicious hospice
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  Speaker 1: growth and billing spikes. In some regions of the state,
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  Speaker 1: hospice providers have exploded in number by far beyond what
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  Speaker 1: the patient population would possibly justify. Even government regulators have
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  Speaker 1: flag now clusters of new companies billing Medicare at unusually
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  Speaker 1: high rates. The schemes, they're shocking and brazen. Fake and
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  Speaker 1: ineligible patients have already been found, individuals that have been
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  Speaker 1: enrolled in hospice who are not terminally ill. Some patients
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know they were listed as hospice recipients. And
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  Speaker 1: then we're hearing about kickbacks and recruitment schemes where brokers
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  Speaker 1: paid to find patients and then steer them into specific
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  Speaker 1: hospice programs. We also know that cash payments or incentives
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  Speaker 1: were used to sign people up as well as kickbacks
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  Speaker 1: to them. And then there's even billing for phantom services
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  Speaker 1: that have been uncovered, charging Medicare for visits, treatments, or
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  Speaker 1: care that never even happened. Recycling patients is also something
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  Speaker 1: else that's been uncovered in California. What does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: It means moving patients between providers to restart billing cycles
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  Speaker 1: and maximize fraudulent payouts. Now why California, Well, California lawmakers
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  Speaker 1: have allowed for this hot spot to become a reality
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  Speaker 1: with extremely weak oversight. And that's also allowed, they say,
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  Speaker 1: rapid licensing of new hospice providers. They knew that there
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  Speaker 1: was too many popping up compared to the population, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't care. We also know that high medicare spinning create
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  Speaker 1: a huge financial target, and the state knew that was happening.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what, Gavin knew. Some of the Democrats didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: Enforcement also were being told lag behind the explosive growth
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  Speaker 1: in provider Gavin knwsome knew about as well and didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, officials warned, for example, that Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: County alone had more hospice agencies than many entire states
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  Speaker 1: in this country combined, and that was in one city.
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  Speaker 1: A recent congressional investigation highlighted massive taxpayer losses tied to
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  Speaker 1: fraudulent hospice claims, failures in federal oversight to stop bad
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  Speaker 1: actors early when there was massive warning signs and serious
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  Speaker 1: concerns that organized fraud networks were actually exploding and then
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  Speaker 1: exploiting the system statewide in California. Now, lawmakers they knew
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't a small scale fraud. They understood early on
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  Speaker 1: with all the warning signs that were going off, that
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  Speaker 1: it was a systemic abuse. So the question is why
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  Speaker 1: didn't they crack down on it in California. Part of
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  Speaker 1: it may be as simple as this. Many of the
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  Speaker 1: fraudsters were giving kickbacks or better known as political contributions
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  Speaker 1: to people in power in the state of California, and
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what the vice presidents in charge of uncovering,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully real people will be held accountable and go
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  Speaker 1: to jail. The question that's been asked by a lot
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  Speaker 1: is why did America do what they did with Iran?
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  Speaker 1: Why did we go after the Supreme Leader and kill
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  Speaker 1: him and so many others around him. What would be
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  Speaker 1: the reasoning for this many on the left have been asking,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go through a timeline of some examples
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  Speaker 1: of Iran hurting America and terrorizing the world. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's important. Let's start back in nineteen seventy nine, when
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian regime took over the US Embassy in Tehran,
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  Speaker 1: resulting in a four hundred and forty four day hostage crisis.
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  Speaker 1: They were released after Ronald Reagan was sworn into office
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  Speaker 1: because Jimmy Carter showed weakness and they realized they could
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  Speaker 1: keep our hostages in essence as long as they wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward in nineteen eighty three, the Ringing regime provided
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  Speaker 1: material support to Hesbolah for the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing
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  Speaker 1: that killed two hundred and forty one US service members.
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  Speaker 1: One year later, in nineteen eighty four, the Ranian regime's
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  Speaker 1: proxy has Block kidnapped CIA Station Chief William Buckley in Beirut.
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  Speaker 1: Buckley then died in captivity. Also in nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: the Ranian regimes proxy has Block carried out the truck
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  Speaker 1: bomb attack on the US Embassy annex in Beirut, killing
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  Speaker 1: another twenty four people. In nineteen eighty five, the Ranian
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  Speaker 1: regimes proxy has blow hijacked TWA flight eight forty seven,
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  Speaker 1: during which a US Navy diver was murdered. In nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight, the Ranian regime carried out mass executions of prisoners,
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  Speaker 1: and it is still an episode that is under international
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  Speaker 1: scrutiny for the size of that mass execution event. Nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty nine, the Supreme Leader issued a regime fadois calling
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  Speaker 1: for Salam's death, including murder abroad. In nineteen ninety two,
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  Speaker 1: Iranian regime operatives assassinating a Kurdish dissident in Berlin later
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  Speaker 1: tied by German authorities to senior Iranian decision makers. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this is just an example of some of the things
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  Speaker 1: they've done. Nineteen ninety four, Argentina's top criminal court blamed
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  Speaker 1: Iran for directing Hesbela Tobaum, the Jewish center in Buenos
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  Speaker 1: Aires that killed eighty five innocent people. In two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seven, for example, US courts held a Rean response
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  Speaker 1: responsible for providing material support to Hesblah for that nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty three by root attack, underscoring the long standing regimes
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  Speaker 1: obsession with killing innocent people. In twenty twelve, for example,
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian regime and HESBLA operatives carried out bomb attacks
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  Speaker 1: targeting the Israeli embassy staff in India and in Georgia
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Investigators also linked the Bangkok blast to
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  Speaker 1: the same wave of suspected Iranian regime operations that we're
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  Speaker 1: targeting Israeli diplomats Israeli officials in twenty te In twenty
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  Speaker 1: twelve explicitly blame the regime's IRGC coued forces for masterminding
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  Speaker 1: that diplomatic targeting attack wave that went around the world.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, Iranian forces fired on and boarded a
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  Speaker 1: tanker in the Gulf, seizing that vessel altogether. In twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: the IRGC forces detained not one, not two, not three,
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  Speaker 1: not four, not five, not six, on seven, not eight,
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  Speaker 1: not nine, but ten US Navy sailors after their boats
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  Speaker 1: entered what they claimed was Iranian waters. What do they do?
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  Speaker 1: They used public humiliation as coercion, and of course, a
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  Speaker 1: guy by the name Barack Obama gave in no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Reuters in twenty seventeen reported a sharp rise in IRGC
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  Speaker 1: detentions of dual nationals hostage style leverage, a pattern the
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  Speaker 1: regime used repeatedly because America was weak. In twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: Denmark said an Iranian intelligence service planned an assassination on
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  Speaker 1: Danish soil in twenty eighteen, as well, a Belgian court
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  Speaker 1: case centered on an Iranian diplomat convicted for planning another
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  Speaker 1: bomb attack near Paris. Twenty nineteen, the IRGC shut down
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  Speaker 1: a US military drone. Twenty nineteen, again, the Iranian regime
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  Speaker 1: exceeded the nuclear deals in Richmond uranium stockpile limit, of course,
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  Speaker 1: that Barack Obama said was worse, accelerating the proliferation risks significantly.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, the regime further breached nuclear deal constraints again.
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  Speaker 1: This is after Barack Obama had no problem bowing down
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  Speaker 1: to the Iranians. In twenty nineteen, the IURGC also seized
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  Speaker 1: a British flag tanker in the Strait of Hormus, yet
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  Speaker 1: again flexing their muscles. In twenty nineteen, the regime ordered
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  Speaker 1: a lethal crackdown on nationwide protests. It was reported that
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  Speaker 1: more than one thousand and five under their own citizens
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  Speaker 1: were killed. In twenty twenty, i RAN launched ballistic missiles
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  Speaker 1: at bases housing US troops in Iraq a direct regime strike,
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  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, US officials also confirmed American church were
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  Speaker 1: treated for concussions after the Iranian missile attack, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a big one. In twenty twenty one, a drone
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  Speaker 1: attack on the tanker Mercer Street killed two crew The
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  Speaker 1: incident was attributed to by US and UK and Israeli
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  Speaker 1: officials directly tied to Iran. In twenty twenty one, US
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors charge Iranian intelligence officials with plotting to kidnap a
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  Speaker 1: journalist from New York for retention to Iran. In twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, the DOJ charge Iranian nationals for a cyber
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  Speaker 1: enabled campaign to intimidate US voters and undermine confidence in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election. In twenty twenty two, US authorities
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  Speaker 1: charged an IRGC member with plotting to assassinate John Bolton
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  Speaker 1: inside the United States of America. Twenty twenty two, again,
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  Speaker 1: Usha Amini died after detention by the regime's morality police,
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  Speaker 1: triggering a nationwide uprising against state violence. In twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: Iran agreed to supply Russia with more drones and more missiles,
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  Speaker 1: enabling strikes that hit Ukrainian cities in infrastructure and twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three routers. It detailed a US Iran Detaine exchange
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  Speaker 1: that hinged on regimed detention of Americans, an example of
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  Speaker 1: Iran state hostage level ridge. In twenty twenty three, the
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  Speaker 1: October seventh attacks where i Ran backed Hamas terrorists murdered
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  Speaker 1: more than one thousand, two hundred innocent men, women, and children,
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  Speaker 1: including forty six Americans. In twenty twenty three, Iranian backed
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  Speaker 1: HESBLO exchanged fire with Israel as regional violence expanded after
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  Speaker 1: October seventh. In twenty twenty three, again hes boild launched
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  Speaker 1: rockets from Lebanon and Israel struck back, demonstrating Iran's proxy
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  Speaker 1: pressure on Israel's northern border. US forces in Iraq were
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  Speaker 1: also targeted by drones as Iran aligned groups resumed to
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  Speaker 1: sustained the attack pattern on US interests. US officials said
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  Speaker 1: they expected more Iran backed attacks on US troops, underscoring
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  Speaker 1: the regime's proxy warfare. The White House sat Iran was
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  Speaker 1: in some cases actively facilitating quote unquote rocket and Jordan
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  Speaker 1: attacks by their terrorist proxies on US basis. Iran align
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  Speaker 1: hoothis escalated attacks on commercial shipping triggering widespread rerouting and
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  Speaker 1: supply chain disruption. Twenty twenty four, persistent Iranian back toothy
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  Speaker 1: strikes continued on shipping trying to hurt the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the world. A drone strike by an Iranian back militia
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  Speaker 1: killed three US troops at Tower twenty two in Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: a major escalation against US forces directly iraqs cout forces
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  Speaker 1: commander visit Bagdad and help modulate militia tax, demonstrating regime
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  Speaker 1: command influence over even Iran's proxies. Iran provide Russia with
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  Speaker 1: ballistic missiles, deepening Tehran's role in the war, affecting European security.
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  Speaker 1: Iran launched hundreds of drones and missiles directly at Israel,
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  Speaker 1: an unprecedented overt regime attack. The IGC seized other vessels,
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  Speaker 1: including boarding one that was connect to Israel by helicopter
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  Speaker 1: and diverting it to Iran, another state policy and piracy
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  Speaker 1: style co. Iran's overseas murder for higher style plots also
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  Speaker 1: continue to grow in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and then last year, the RGC sees the foreign tanker
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  Speaker 1: in the of ourmus Continuing regime maritime attacks affecting the
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  Speaker 1: global market. Now, that's just some of what Iran has done.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're asking yourself the question why, now, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even mention what they were doing with nuclear weapons,
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  Speaker 1: So don't forget that either. The nuclear weapons, Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: what Iran was ultimately all about. And that's exactly why
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  Speaker 1: Frost and exactly just how corrupt the Biden administration really was. Now,
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  Speaker 1: before I get into what the Senate Judiciary Committee told
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  Speaker 1: us today, let me just remind you what Arctic Frost
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  Speaker 1: was all about. It was the internal code name tied
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  Speaker 1: to that federal investigation effort that was launched during the
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  Speaker 1: Biden Air Department of Justice, an operation that, according to
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  Speaker 1: multiple whistleblowers and internal memos now is coming to light.
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  Speaker 1: It was designed to track and build cases tied to
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  Speaker 1: election related activity, political organizing, and what officials labeled as
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  Speaker 1: domestic extremism risk networks. Now, on paper, it was aimed
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  Speaker 1: as a national security initiative, but the reality was it
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  Speaker 1: was all about doing political surveillance on Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 1: many of his allies. And now, thanks to the Senate
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  Speaker 1: Judiciary hearing, we're getting a much clearer picture of what
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  Speaker 1: was really going on behind the scenes. The hearing turned
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  Speaker 1: into nothing short of a political earthquake. Senators revealed new
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  Speaker 1: testimony and internal communications tied directly to Special Counsel Jack
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  Speaker 1: Smith and what he allegedly demanded during the height of
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  Speaker 1: Arctic frost and the operation. Now, according to the documents
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  Speaker 1: that were presented during the hearing, Smith pushed for expanded
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  Speaker 1: authority to subpoena communications tied not just to suspects, but
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  Speaker 1: to broader networks of individuals. He reportedly advocated for aggressive timelines,
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  Speaker 1: demanding prosecutors moved faster than traditional thresholds would normally allow,
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  Speaker 1: and most explosively. Lawmakers revealed discussions suggesting an effort to
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  Speaker 1: directly link political speech and organizing activity to potential criminal exposure.
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  Speaker 1: Let me say that again, this wasn't just about investigating crimes.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted you to believe that, but What it was
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  Speaker 1: actually about was weaponizing and redefining what could be considered
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  Speaker 1: a crime to lock up Donald Trump in his allies. Now.
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  Speaker 1: According to testimony, Smith wanted broader use of material witness warrants,
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  Speaker 1: even in cases where individuals had not been charged. That
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  Speaker 1: is what you call a phishing exploration, hoping to find
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  Speaker 1: a crime with no crime that had actually been committed
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  Speaker 1: that you knew about. He's supported also using digit digital
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  Speaker 1: surveillance tools to map associations between the political activists that
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to go after. That was the tree connected
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  Speaker 1: to Donald Trump at the top, and he reportedly pushed
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  Speaker 1: the Department of Justice teams to build cases as he
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  Speaker 1: described it outward, meaning start first with a target aka
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump or one of his associates, and then expand
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  Speaker 1: the net until something actionable is found or appeared. This
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  Speaker 1: is a stunning admission by those at the hearing, making
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  Speaker 1: it clear that yes, they didn't know of any crimes
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  Speaker 1: had been committed by Trump or anyone around him. They
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  Speaker 1: instead just said we're going to pick someone and then
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  Speaker 1: find a crime that we can charge them with to
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  Speaker 1: shut them down Politically. This literally flips the entire justice
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  Speaker 1: system on its head. Now in America, investigative crime and
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  Speaker 1: then find a suspect. But not under the Biden administration
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  Speaker 1: or regime. They picked the target first, then went looking
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  Speaker 1: for a crime that they could create out of thin air. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is a grotesque abuse of power. Republican members the
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  Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee did not hold back. They described arctic
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  Speaker 1: frost as a weaponized pipeline inside the DOJ, a system
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  Speaker 1: that allowed federal prosecutors to test legal theories on political opponents,
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  Speaker 1: and a framework that risked turning the justice system into
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  Speaker 1: a tool of intimidation. Several senators pointed to internal language
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  Speaker 1: suggesting that traditional safeguards, probable cause, evidentiary thresholds, prosecutorial restraints
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  Speaker 1: were seen as quote unquote just obstacles rather than protections
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  Speaker 1: of those that are innocent. And that's where the abusive
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  Speaker 1: power argument became central. Because federal authority is used not
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  Speaker 1: just to enforce the law, but to reinterpret it and
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  Speaker 1: apply it selectively. Then you don't just have a legal issue,
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  Speaker 1: you have a constitutional one. Now. President Trump responded swiftly
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  Speaker 1: and forcefully, and remarks following the hearing, Trump described the
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  Speaker 1: revelations as one of the most dangerous abusive powers ever
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  Speaker 1: uncovered in Washington. President Trump didn't stop there. He also
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  Speaker 1: went on to say that Arctic frost was a coordinated
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  Speaker 1: effort to silence political opposition under the guise of law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Trump also reiterated a core argument he made repeatedly, the
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  Speaker 1: federal agencies were turned against the American people, and that
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  Speaker 1: was clearly revealed in the hearing, And it proves the
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  Speaker 1: system was rigged at the highest levels. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to know just how political this was, want you
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  Speaker 1: to take a listen to this part of the shocking
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  Speaker 1: amount of data that came out, Senator Cruz confirming that
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  Speaker 1: Biden's FBI wired tapped the current White House Chief of Staff,
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  Speaker 1: Susie Wilds during a privileged call with her lawyer, without
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  Speaker 1: the consent of either party. Yes, so much for client
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  Speaker 1: privilege with your attorney. No, they said, we don't care.
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  Speaker 1: We want to listen in because we're trying to find
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  Speaker 1: anything we can on Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 6: Jack Smith issued nearly two hundred subpoenas, Is that correct. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: Those subpoenas targeted over four hundred Republican individuals and organizations correct, correct,
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  Speaker 6: many of whom had no connection to those who entered
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  Speaker 6: the Capitol on January sixth.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, absolutely, and.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, some of those organizations didn't even exist on
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  Speaker 6: January sixth, Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: It is, so we're not.
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  Speaker 6: Talking about a narrow investigation. We're talking about a sweeping
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  Speaker 6: operation targeting virtually the entirety of the other side.
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  Speaker 7: Politically, it was a fishing expedition.
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  Speaker 6: So let's turn to the constitution. Subpoenaing the tall records
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  Speaker 6: of members of Congress, does that raise serious constitutional concerns?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, And in fact we have the pen who notified
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  Speaker 7: the Special Consul's office of those concerns. And jack Smith
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  Speaker 7: had apparently said that he was going to consult with
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  Speaker 7: the Solicitor General, according to the release of the information
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  Speaker 7: from Senator Grassley this morning. Yet when he was deposed
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  Speaker 7: by the House and was specifically asked if he spoke
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  Speaker 7: with the Solicitor General, he said, on this discrete issue, no.
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  Speaker 6: Among other issues, it raises significant issues with the speech
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  Speaker 6: and debate clause.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, so much so that, as you noted, when when
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  Speaker 6: Jacksmith's subpoena at AT and T to get my toll records,
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  Speaker 6: at and T refused to comply with the subpoena because
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  Speaker 6: they concluded that it violated the speech and debate clauses.
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  Speaker 6: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely correct? And they backed down.
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  Speaker 6: Jack Smith did not try to enforce that subpoena Didy.
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  Speaker 7: He did not.
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  Speaker 6: He did not go to court and litigate the matter,
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  Speaker 6: did he?
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  Speaker 7: He did not.
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  Speaker 6: Does that suggest, as it does to me, that he
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  Speaker 6: knew damn well what he was doing was illegal and
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  Speaker 6: would not be upheld in court.
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  Speaker 7: It does suggest that.
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  Speaker 6: When the federal government subpoenas donor lists internal communications organization records,
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  Speaker 6: does that implicate the First Amendment and also freedom association
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  Speaker 6: in particular?
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  Speaker 7: It does, and the Supreme Court made that clear in
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  Speaker 7: the end of LACP.
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  Speaker 6: Case Mss Chamberlain. Aside from the legal violations, what specific crimes,
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  Speaker 6: if any, were actually uncovered as a result of the
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  Speaker 6: Arctic Frost investigation.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not aware of any crimes that were uncovered.
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  Speaker 6: Would the senators, donors, organizations, and individuals who were surveiled
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  Speaker 6: and subpoenaed have ever learned about the Arctic Frost investigation
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  Speaker 6: had Trump not one in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Four, Probably not, mainly because of these non disclosure orders,
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  Speaker 4: but also I mean the fact that a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these records were now just learning about them because they
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  Speaker 4: were in these prohibited access files only available to their
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  Speaker 4: FBI director. So if the FBI director is a Democrat,
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  Speaker 4: there's no reason to think we know about them.
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  Speaker 6: How would you compare the scope of the violations in
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  Speaker 6: Arctic Frost to Watergate.
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  Speaker 4: I think, if anything, it might even be greater. I
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  Speaker 4: mean the scope of this in terms of the sheer
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  Speaker 4: number of people and organizations affected. And as I discussed,
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  Speaker 4: I mean this brazen violation of attorney client privileged wiretapping
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  Speaker 4: a phone call between Susie Wilds and her lawyer. These
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  Speaker 4: are egregious offenses. And you know, if Watergate was just
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  Speaker 4: about a single break in, I mean this is effectively,
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  Speaker 4: you know, compound that by two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: You may have heard that shocking revelation No crimes were
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  Speaker 1: found in Operation Arctic Frost, because it wasn't about crimes.
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  Speaker 1: It was about framing your political opponent and trying to
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  Speaker 1: entrap them and charge them with crimes that you made
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  Speaker 1: out of thin air. Center Cruz wrapped it up perfectly
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  Speaker 1: when he said this at the Judiciary hearing.
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  Speaker 6: Watergate was about a handful of files in a single Office.
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  Speaker 6: This reached into tens of thousands of private communications, emails, records,
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  Speaker 6: and personal data, tall records, bank records, donor lists, law
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  Speaker 6: firm records, and other personal files relating to every major
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  Speaker 6: conservative organization were subpoena.
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  Speaker 1: That is a perfect example of just how widespad the
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  Speaker 1: abuse of power really was. And now the question is
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  Speaker 1: will those that abuse their power be held to account?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what Judiciary Committee seems to be working towards.
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  Speaker 1: And not only were they going after the President, they
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  Speaker 1: were also going after major conservative organizations, turning Point, USA,
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  Speaker 1: America First Policy Institute, even the Republican National Committee. So
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  Speaker 1: this may be just the tip of the iceberg. Don't
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