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Manhattan DA Abusing His Office to Target President Trump · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump says he's gonna be arrested this out of
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Speaker 1: New York. Why because they're saying he miscategorized a payment
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Speaker 1: to Stormy Daniels. What's crazy is this is exactly what
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton actually did and was She was never you know,
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Speaker 1: convicted of anything, never charged with anything. In fact, Clinton
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Speaker 1: was just fine for doing the same thing. And she
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Speaker 1: also could have actually been indicted by the same loke
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Speaker 1: activist George Soros DA. The Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg
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Speaker 1: is essentially using the same legal theory which is totally
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Speaker 1: out of bounds to potentially indict former President Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton's campaign was fined for. That is what
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Speaker 1: the former United's attorney, Brett Tolman argued. Tollman asserted that
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Speaker 1: Bragg's legal theory that Trump tried to hide a campaign
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Speaker 1: expended You're by using his then lawyer Michael Cohen to
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Speaker 1: pay porn actress Stormy Daniels one hundred and thirty thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars and alleged hush money before the two sixteen presidential
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Speaker 1: election would have applied to Clinton when her campaign hit
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Speaker 1: a payment for the phony Russian dossier against Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: and they categorize it as legal fees. Former New York
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Speaker 1: City police officer and conservative pundit John Cardillo also tweeted
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Speaker 1: this out. Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand, and no one cared Toleman tweet in response,
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Speaker 1: and the Hillary Clinton was actually fine for hiding the
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Speaker 1: Still dossier payment under legal fees, essentially the same legal
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Speaker 1: theory on the Stormy Daniels payment. The DA is running
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Speaker 1: criminal investigation of Trump on that should tell you everything
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Speaker 1: you need to know. Indeed, the Federal Election Commission in
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Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty two did in fact fine Larry
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Speaker 1: Clinton all the way back in twenty sixteen, and that
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Speaker 1: for that presidential campaign, as well as the Democratic National
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Speaker 1: Committee for not properly disclosing payments for the so called
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Speaker 1: Dolcier Still dossier that the DOJ and the FBI relied
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Speaker 1: on to investigate Trump for alleged Russian collusion. It was
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Speaker 1: a hoax the entire time. Now campaigns just so you know,
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Speaker 1: we're supposed to report expenses over two hundred dollars and
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Speaker 1: disclose the purpose of the expense. Where the Clinton campaign
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Speaker 1: do well, they knew that they couldn't actually tell America
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Speaker 1: that they were paying for the dossier, so instead, the
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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee funneled their payments
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Speaker 1: for the dossier, totaling more than a million dollars through
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Speaker 1: the Democratic law firm Perkins Coy. According to the FEC,
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Speaker 1: Perkins Coy paid opposition research firm Fusion Gps more than
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Speaker 1: a million dollars in twenty sixteen for the Steel dossier.
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Speaker 1: Perkins Coy was then paid one hundred and seventy five
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Speaker 1: thousand by the Clinton campaign and about eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand was also paid by the Democratic National Committee
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Speaker 1: in July and August of twenty sixteen, around the same
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Speaker 1: exact time that the FBI claimed they opened their investigation
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Speaker 1: on the Trump campaign. Remember they spied on Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump's campaign. The payments were not disclosed until Caspetel,
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Speaker 1: lead investigator for the then House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Unions,
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Speaker 1: uncovered these payments. That is when the FEC fined the
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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign a measly eight grand and the DNC one
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Speaker 1: hundred and five grand nuts chump change, just so you know,
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Speaker 1: for those two entities for reporting the payments as legal
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Speaker 1: services and legal and compliance consulting instead of as opposition research.
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Speaker 1: The FEC sidness statement. George Washington University law professor and
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney Jonathan Turley also noted in a recent
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Speaker 1: column on the potential indictment against Trump that the Hillary
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Speaker 1: Clinton faced a not dissimilar campaign finance allegations, saying last
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Speaker 1: year the Federal Election Commission find the Clinton campaign years
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Speaker 1: later for funding the Still dossier's a legal expense. The
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Speaker 1: campaign had previously denied funding the dossier, by the way,
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Speaker 1: which was used to push false Russian collision claims against
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, and it buried the funding
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Speaker 1: in the campaign's legal budget. Yet there was no cry
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Speaker 1: for this type of prosecution, this type of prosecution in Washington,
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Speaker 1: DC or New York. So why is it happening now?
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Speaker 1: Because the dissert attorney Bragg is obsessed with bringing charges
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Speaker 1: against Trump for federal violations. That's what he's obsessed with,
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Speaker 1: Now there's another part of this And the question is
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Speaker 1: could this backfire? Could this be a huge backfire on
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Speaker 1: the left for them clearly overstepping and going after Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump to try to get a mug shot. Will it
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Speaker 1: make people want to vote for Donald Trump even more
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Speaker 1: on the right if they actually do this, I would
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Speaker 1: argue yes. I want you to hear what Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: had to say about his possible arrest and a video
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Speaker 1: that he released. These four horrible radical left democratic investigations
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Speaker 1: of your all time favorite president me is just a
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Speaker 1: continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history
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Speaker 1: of our country. It's gone on forever with the Russia, Russia,
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Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine and the Mueller hooks. It's
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Speaker 1: an absolute disgrace. What's going on. They even spied on
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Speaker 1: my campaign, and remember this, with all of the work
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Speaker 1: that they did on Muller. No collusion, That's what the
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Speaker 1: answer was, was all no collusion. Whether it's the Marlago
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Speaker 1: raid or the Unselect Committee hoax, the perfect Georgia phone call,
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Speaker 1: it was absolutely perfect, or the Stormy horse Face Daniels
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Speaker 1: extortion plot, they're all sick and it's fake news. Our
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Speaker 1: enemies are desperate to stop us because they know that
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Speaker 1: we are the only ones who can stop them, and
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Speaker 1: they know it very strongly. And they're looking at the
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Speaker 1: poles where not me, but we are up by so
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Speaker 1: much they can't even believe it. We won twice and
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Speaker 1: now we've got to win a third time. They know
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Speaker 1: that we can defeat them, they know that we will
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Speaker 1: defeat them. But they're not coming after me. They're coming
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Speaker 1: after you. I'm just standing in their way, and I
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Speaker 1: always will stand in their way, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump putting out that official campaign video rallying the troops,
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Speaker 1: saying we've won twice. We're gonna win again. Now the
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Speaker 1: question is if they do indict Donald Trump, and there's
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Speaker 1: a very good chance this activist DA who is supported
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Speaker 1: and backed by George Soros, does this, will this be
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Speaker 1: an all time massive backfire. I would argue yes, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of Americans that they see a former president
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Speaker 1: in handcuffs, or see a former president getting a mug shot. Look,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt the left is going to celebrate this. Right,
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Speaker 1: They're gonna love it. They're gonna they're gonna be like
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Speaker 1: taking a victory lap. What they may not understand is
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Speaker 1: this may actually help Donald Trump more than anything else
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Speaker 1: they've ever done, because there's a certain point where there
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Speaker 1: are people in this country they're gonna say, you don't.
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Speaker 1: You don't actually go out there and take and take
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Speaker 1: mug shots and arrest former presence just because you don't
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Speaker 1: like them politically. That's not what America is supposed to
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Speaker 1: be about, especially on these ridiculous charges. Now, there is
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Speaker 1: a chance, I want to be clear, there's a chance
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Speaker 1: that you could find a really woke jury in New
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Speaker 1: York that could convict. Then there would be an appeal,
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Speaker 1: you would assume, and if you went outside of that area,
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Speaker 1: is there a chance that it could be overturned. Of
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Speaker 1: course that could happen. But people are gonna see this
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Speaker 1: for what it is. They are gonna see this as
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Speaker 1: a clear and decisive move by the left to try
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Speaker 1: to put Donald Trump in jail because he's their political opponent.
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Speaker 1: There's no other reason. That's all all it is. This
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Speaker 1: is trying to destroy a political opponent. They want to
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Speaker 1: take down Donald Trump. They've been trying, as he described it,
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Speaker 1: four different times. Is the fourth time now that they
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Speaker 1: have tried to take him down? Will it work this time? Well,
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Speaker 1: it's New York City. It's an activist. DA. I think
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Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that there will in fact
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Speaker 1: be a mugshot. They were trying to take down Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Don't forget with the rate of Marlago and that went
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Speaker 1: off the rails. And the only reason why it went
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Speaker 1: off the rail is because our President of the United
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Speaker 1: States America, Joe Biden, being an idiot, did something incredibly stupid.
10:40
Speaker 1: He kept classified documents for up to forty plus years
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Speaker 1: of his time in office, dating back to when he
10:47
Speaker 1: was a senator early on his career. And the other
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Speaker 1: thing that we have to talk about is how the
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Speaker 1: media is covering this, MYO, may are they excited? I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is like a political wet dream for the left.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump up and handcuffs, Donald Trump getting ah a
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Speaker 1: mug shot? This would be amazing. But isn't it an
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Speaker 1: abuse to power? Yes? Is this totally out of a
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Speaker 1: left field? Yes? Is this being done by a George
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Speaker 1: Soros activist? Da? Yes? Is this the politicalization of the
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Speaker 1: criminal justice system? Yes. Jonathan Turley made that point on
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Speaker 1: Fox Take a Listen. One of the other things you
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Speaker 1: point out in this op ed is that Hillary Clinton's
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Speaker 1: campaign was fined for secretly funding the Steel dossier, which
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Speaker 1: of course was used to damage Trump with these allegations
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Speaker 1: of Russian collusion, but there was no prosecution there. So
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Speaker 1: if Trump is arrested charged, could that give credence, you know,
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Speaker 1: to concerns that the law is used against some but
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Speaker 1: not others, that you know, prosecutorial discretions being abused. You know,
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Speaker 1: of all of the cases that are now threatening Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: this is the one he would probably hope would come first.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a case that many of us
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Speaker 1: find just thoroughly proper and fundamentally weak. So if he
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Speaker 1: wants to perfect that narrative of the weaponization of the
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Speaker 1: criminal justice system, Bragg just gave him the perfect case
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Speaker 1: to do it with. So I think that the timing
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Speaker 1: here is telling. It has a lot more to do
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Speaker 1: about Bragg, I think, than Trump. He's being really sort
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Speaker 1: of hit by all sides. Ironically, he's being accused of
12:27
Speaker 1: not being aggressive and enforcing laws involving violent offenders. But
12:33
Speaker 1: he is certainly willing to bring this case, which I
12:36
Speaker 1: think is a mistake. I think people need to think
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Speaker 1: seriously of the implications of this type of case. You know,
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Speaker 1: the politicalization of the criminal justice system is one of
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Speaker 1: the great scourges of the law. It is something that
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Speaker 1: we have always rejected in this country. I can't say
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Speaker 1: that this is the first prosecutor to yield to temptation,
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Speaker 1: but there are serious flaws and the implications are great.
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Speaker 1: The implications are basically, are we losing this country and
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Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be when it comes to we
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Speaker 1: don't weaponize our justice system to take out our political opponents.
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Speaker 1: You know, you see all the time in other countries,
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Speaker 1: I say all the time, but you know third world
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Speaker 1: countries and where there are coup attempts and things where
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Speaker 1: you'll have leaders that are put into exile and they
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Speaker 1: come back to power, they're arrested, they're put in Jailman
13:26
Speaker 1: as a great example of that, you can go throughout
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Speaker 1: history and you can see this. This is something that
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Speaker 1: we should all condemn, the left, the right, everybody in between.
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Speaker 1: You should never have to worry that running for office
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Speaker 1: can mean that you're going to be politically persecuted and
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Speaker 1: put into prison because people are obsessed with you. And
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Speaker 1: yet Democrats are now coming out and they're saying this
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Speaker 1: is victory. This is what we needed this is this
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Speaker 1: is the ball game. Right, he couldn't wait for this
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Speaker 1: to happen. Over at CNN when this news broke. I
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Speaker 1: want you to hear what they said. They actually said,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump telling people to stand up for what they
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Speaker 1: believe in and say no to this and go out
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Speaker 1: there and protest the weaponization of our judicial system. Okay,
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Speaker 1: they're now saying that he has nothing more than a
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Speaker 1: domestic terrorist for doing that, and that anybody else is
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Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist for doing it. Take a listen your
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Speaker 1: reaction to Trump's claim that he will be arrested Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: his calls for protests, and by the way, the Manhattan
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Speaker 1: Day's Office still not confirming that there is any imminent
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Speaker 1: arrest or indictment that is scheduled for Tuesday. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: part of the story that he's putting a specific date
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Speaker 1: on it that the DA's office is not. But obviously
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Speaker 1: the larger point is the one Fred that you mentioned.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you are the most sympathetic observer possible
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump and you do double backflips, you can
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Speaker 1: find some credence in his argument on January sixth, he
15:01
Speaker 1: did not know that his language would lead to violence,
15:05
Speaker 1: but January sixth has now happened. He knows the effect
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Speaker 1: of the language that he used that day and how
15:10
Speaker 1: it led to violence, and here he is coming very
15:13
Speaker 1: close to that language again. It makes it very hard
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Speaker 1: to avoid the conclusion that he is willing to use
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Speaker 1: the threat of violence as part of his political strategy.
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Speaker 1: And that is just a reminder of the very different
15:28
Speaker 1: era we are in that we have been at any
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Speaker 1: point in American history where you have Trump, the leader
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Speaker 1: of a political movement who is routinely willing to raise
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Speaker 1: the specter of violence as a way of advancing his goals,
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Speaker 1: and so many conservative commentators and members of Congress who
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Speaker 1: have condemned preemptively the possibility of indictment remained silent on
15:53
Speaker 1: his raising this threat of violence, So that I think
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Speaker 1: is just enormously significant, any marker of the very different
16:01
Speaker 1: era that we are in politically that we have ever
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Speaker 1: been in before. What's unprecedented is not that it's the
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Speaker 1: way the media is acting, it's the way this rogue
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Speaker 1: DA is acting. I really do believe this is going
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Speaker 1: to be the biggest backfire that we've ever seen. I've
16:22
Speaker 1: talked to people that have said to me, look, I
16:25
Speaker 1: wasn't going to vote for Trump again this time around.
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Speaker 1: I think it was time to move on to somebody else. However,
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Speaker 1: if they do this, if there's a mug shot of
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I will definitely back and support him, if
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Speaker 1: for no other reason, so that he goes in there
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Speaker 1: and he cleans house, and then he goes in there
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Speaker 1: and he completely overhauls the Justice Department and completely overhauls
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Speaker 1: the deep state in the FBI. If Donald Trump gets reelected,
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Speaker 1: he has promised that he will do that this time,
16:54
Speaker 1: something that he didn't do last time. And I think
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Speaker 1: it is very clear that this environment in our deep
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Speaker 1: state is so toxic and is so vile and is
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Speaker 1: so disgusting that if he does win again, I believe
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Speaker 1: he would have a mandate, a mandate to go in
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Speaker 1: there and a mandate to say I am going to
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Speaker 1: do this and there's nothing that you can do to
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Speaker 1: stop me, because I've been elected by the American people.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I would run on this right. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: hold back on this. I would run on this. I
17:29
Speaker 1: would make this my mission, my mission in life, to
17:36
Speaker 1: not back down and to say, look at what they've
17:38
Speaker 1: done to me. If they can do it, to a
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Speaker 1: former president, and I would I would make posters and
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Speaker 1: T shirts of my mug shot, and I would say,
17:47
Speaker 1: that's what this is, what this election is about. Do
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Speaker 1: you want to live in a third world country? Do
17:52
Speaker 1: you want to live in a in a third world
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Speaker 1: nation where we put into prison into ye are political opponents,
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Speaker 1: just because there are political opponents. I wouldn't back down
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Speaker 1: from this. I would own it. And not only would
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Speaker 1: I own it, I would stand there proudly and say, yes,
18:15
Speaker 1: I'm a political prisoner. I am persecuted for having my
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Speaker 1: own beliefs and freedom of speech. I wouldn't stop on this.
18:27
Speaker 1: I wouldn't back down on this. I would open up
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Speaker 1: the biggest cannon whoop ay I could find, and I
18:33
Speaker 1: would run on this and say, this is the country
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Speaker 1: that the Democrats have created, and it's time that we
18:39
Speaker 1: get back to what's supposed to happen this country. Yeah.
18:42
Speaker 1: I've said this before and people are like, oh, lock
18:44
Speaker 1: her up, lock her up. I'm like, I don't want
18:46
Speaker 1: to lock up Hillary Clinton unless she actually committed a crime.
18:49
Speaker 1: And I don't want to lock up any Democrat unless
18:51
Speaker 1: they've actually committed a crime, and a crime that has
18:55
Speaker 1: been proven and a jury of their peers. I do
18:58
Speaker 1: not like the persecute of people on the other side
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Speaker 1: of the aisle just because of what they say and
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Speaker 1: or what they believe in. That is wrong. It's always
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Speaker 1: been wrong, and it's something that we should never advocate. Four.
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Speaker 1: It's something that we should never not ever should we
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Speaker 1: sit there and celebrate it, because if they can do
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Speaker 1: this to a former president, they can do it to you.
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Speaker 1: Never forget that. One eight hundred four seven four nine
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Speaker 1: seven three two. If Donald Trump is indicted, I want
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Speaker 1: to get your reaction to it. Will you support him
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Speaker 1: if he is indicted? One eight hundred four seven four
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Speaker 1: phone calls one eight hundred four seven four nine seven
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Speaker 1: three two. Hillary Clinton gets fined years later for miscategorizing
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Speaker 1: donate or miscategorizing you know, campaign expenditures from twenty and sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Campaign didn't have to pay the fines back until years later,
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Speaker 1: was not indicted. Now you have a liberal DA, an
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Speaker 1: activist by the name of brag Manhattan DA that is
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Speaker 1: now out there saying, Yep, I'm gonna put Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: in jail for doing the exact same thing. Again. Hillary
20:50
Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign was actually fined for hiding the still dossier
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Speaker 1: payments under quote legal fees. Essentially the same legal theory
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Speaker 1: on the Stormy Daniels payment. The DA is remaining a
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Speaker 1: crime investigation of Trump on That is what you call
21:03
Speaker 1: a legal double standard. And that's the problem here, is
21:08
Speaker 1: that legal double standard where they are now politicizing the
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Speaker 1: District Attorney's office and they are trying to destroy a
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Speaker 1: political opponent, trying to make it where he cannot run
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Speaker 1: for president. That's their goal. They're trying to make it
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Speaker 1: where he would be ineligible to be president. They believe
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Speaker 1: that if they can just indict him. They believe if
21:31
Speaker 1: they can just shut him down and get that mugshot
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Speaker 1: you coming on to chat about this. The world's obviously reacting. Dude,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump saying I'm gonna be and I'm gonna be arrested,
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Speaker 1: he said on Tuesday. And the crazy part is this
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Speaker 1: could be an indictment against him for the same thing
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Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton was actually fine for doing but never indicted.
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Speaker 1: Break it all down for us. Gotta say, I think
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Speaker 1: this podcast coming out is one of the most important
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Speaker 1: we've ever done because it walks people through what are
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Speaker 1: really confusing legal issues and really confusing facts. And it's
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Speaker 1: hard when you're understanding it. You see Democrats and you
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Speaker 1: see the media celebrating yea, we're finally going to get Trump.
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Speaker 1: You see people on the right saying, boo, this is terrible,
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Speaker 1: and it's hard to know, Okay, what really is happening.
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Speaker 1: What we do in tomorrow Morning's podcast is we walk
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Speaker 1: you through chapter and verse to understand what's going on.
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Speaker 1: The long and short of it is, I think this
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Speaker 1: indictment is garbage. This indictment is this is a political persecution.
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Speaker 1: It is not, in fact a fair application of the law.
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Speaker 1: The person bringing the indictment as a guy named Alvin Bragg,
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Speaker 1: who is Alvin Bragg. He is a George Oros supported
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Speaker 1: district attorney in Manhattan. He is an elected Democrat. He
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Speaker 1: is a left wing activist. The main thing Bragg has
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Speaker 1: been known for in a short tenure as the DA
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Speaker 1: in Manhattan has been letting violent criminals go. And he
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Speaker 1: has shifted dramatically. He ran promising to prosecute fewer violent criminals,
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Speaker 1: to let violent criminals go. George Soros put over a
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Speaker 1: million dollars behind this campaign to get him elected, and
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Speaker 1: now he is threatening to arrest on Tuesday Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: And this all goes back to twenty sixteen, which obviously
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Speaker 1: was seven years ago. And in twenty sixteen, Trump allegedly
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Speaker 1: gave one hundred and thirty thousand dollars in a hush
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Speaker 1: payment to Stormy Daniels, the stripper and the porn star.
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Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen was obviously the presidential year, and the allegation
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Speaker 1: is that he paid her that money to stay quiet
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Speaker 1: about an adulterous affair they'd had. Now, paying someone to
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Speaker 1: stay quiet is not in and of itself illegal. It
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Speaker 1: may not be the most moral thing on earth to do,
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Speaker 1: but it is typically not a criminal violation. What Alvin
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Speaker 1: Bragg is doing is using a relatively obscure New York
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Speaker 1: criminal law, new York Penal Law one seven five dot
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Speaker 1: oh five, which makes it a crime to essentially keep
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Speaker 1: a fraudulent business record. And his whole claim is that
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Speaker 1: the one hundred and thirty thousand dollars that Michael Cohen,
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Speaker 1: who was Trump's personal attorney at the time, allegedly delivered
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Speaker 1: to Stormy Daniels, that Trump recorded that on his books
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Speaker 1: as legal fees, what in fact, it was hush money
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Speaker 1: to the stripper. Now, this is a tickie tac claim.
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Speaker 1: This is a claim that has been tried against other politicians.
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Speaker 1: Member John Edwards, the Democrat senator, ran for president. They
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Speaker 1: went after him on this. They tried him on this
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Speaker 1: and they lost. The jury laughed amount of court said
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Speaker 1: this is stupid and ironically and it's what you open
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Speaker 1: your show with. Hillary Clinton did the exact same thing
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Speaker 1: at the same time in the twenty sixteen election, Hillary
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Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign spent over a million dollars paying for the
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Speaker 1: Steel dossier, the bogus fake Russia Gate thing where they
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Speaker 1: hired this guy Steele to compile all sorts of sordid
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Speaker 1: rumors in about innuendo about Donald Trump, but the million
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Speaker 1: dollars she paid, she called it legal fees. Did the
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Speaker 1: exact same thing Trump what did, but instead it was
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Speaker 1: to dig up dirt and to try to disseminate dirt
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Speaker 1: on Trump that was false. And yet ironically, the same
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Speaker 1: Democrats and media that are celebrating going after Trump on
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Speaker 1: this ridiculous charge were perfectly fine with Hillary not facing
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Speaker 1: any criminal liability. I want to ask you one of
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Speaker 1: the other big questions, and we're going to dive into,
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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of the legal aspects of this verdict
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Speaker 1: that we just got finished recording. So now a verdict
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Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz, I get to co host a show
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Speaker 1: with you. It's a blast listen to it. We do
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Speaker 1: it three days a week. But the big question people
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Speaker 1: are saying is okay, and this comes down donald Trump
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Speaker 1: has a mug shot. Is Donald Trump then at that
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Speaker 1: point ineligible to run for president or ineligible to become
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Speaker 1: president of the uniteds America if he is a indicted
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Speaker 1: or b goes to trial and it's found quote guilty
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Speaker 1: by a New York jury, which I think in New
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Speaker 1: York a jury there they can hate Donald Trump as
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Speaker 1: much as this prosecutor does. Yeah, the short answer is no,
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Speaker 1: absolutely not. There is no legal prohibition on someone indicted
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Speaker 1: running for president or serving as president. There's no legal
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Speaker 1: prohibition on someone convicted running for president or serving as president.
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Speaker 1: There are political constraints and that if you're a convicted felons,
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Speaker 1: sometimes that will cause people to vote against you. But
27:53
Speaker 1: there have been multiple convicted felons elected to federal office previously.
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Speaker 1: We've had one of the things we talked about in
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Speaker 1: the podcast, Eugene Debs, who was the Socialist candidate for president,
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Speaker 1: ran four times. One of the times he ran, he
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Speaker 1: was in jail and was running for president. In the
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Speaker 1: United States, the only way to bar someone from running
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Speaker 1: for president is if they are impeached by the House
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Speaker 1: and convicted by the Senate by two thirds of the Senate.
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Speaker 1: And one of the punishments that can be imposed in
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Speaker 1: impeachment is barring them from running for federal office. The
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Speaker 1: chances of that happening are zero. There's no chance on
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Speaker 1: earth it'll happen, and so this is going to be
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Speaker 1: decided by the voters. But that being said, I gotta say,
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Speaker 1: if Alvin Bragg goes through with this, if he arrests
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Speaker 1: Trump on Tuesday, if he brings this bogus charge, I
28:42
Speaker 1: think it is likely to get laughed at a court.
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Speaker 1: I think a jury is likely to acquit And if
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Speaker 1: and when that happens, Alvin Bragg, this left wing Soros
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Speaker 1: elected DA might have single handedly reelected Donald Trump as president,
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Speaker 1: which which is more than a little bit of irony.
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Speaker 1: Every time they seem to go into extreme senator it
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Speaker 1: backfires on the left when they try to go after
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Even Elon Moss tweeted out basically saying the
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Speaker 1: same thing that you just said, which is, if you
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Speaker 1: actually do this, if you're dumb enough to do this,
29:14
Speaker 1: this will backfire in such a way that it will
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Speaker 1: guarantee the presidency to Donald Trump. I tend to go
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Speaker 1: with that assessment that this is going to be seen
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Speaker 1: by so many Americans as such a political enemies list,
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Speaker 1: the same type that we see in third world countries.
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Speaker 1: But the scary part is it's actually quite possible it's
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Speaker 1: happening here in the United States of America. Well, look,
29:36
Speaker 1: it is sad, it's dangerous. It's why, as you know,
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Speaker 1: the latest book I wrote, which just came out a
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Speaker 1: couple of months ago, is entitled Justice Corrupted. How the
29:46
Speaker 1: Left has weaponized the legal System, And the entire book
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Speaker 1: is about what's happening right now. It's about how Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden has turned the Department of Justice and the FBI
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Speaker 1: into political weapons to target his enemies. It's about how
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Speaker 1: Barack Obama turned a Partment of Justice and the IRS
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Speaker 1: and the FBI and the CIA into political weapons to
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Speaker 1: target his enemies. It's about George Soros prosecutors. I've got
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Speaker 1: an entire chapter in the book on George Soros prosecutors.
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Speaker 1: We talked about the Steel Dossier. I've got an entire
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Speaker 1: chapter in the book on crossfire, hurricane and on the
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Speaker 1: efforts to go after Donald Trump by these hard partisans.
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Speaker 1: And I got to say, it is dangerous. The reason
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Speaker 1: I wrote the book Justice Corrupted, is we all count
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Speaker 1: on our liberty coming from the rule of law, coming
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Speaker 1: from the fact that law enforcement is not used as
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Speaker 1: a political weapon to attack your political opponents, but rather
30:38
Speaker 1: the law should apply fairly to everyone. And I think
30:40
Speaker 1: what is happening right now is incredibly dangerous. It is
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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue this conversation on our podcast. Senator Thank
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