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Tucker Carlson WRECKS Fake Conservatives in First GOP Presidential Forum · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is a saying in politics that someone is a rhino. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you don't know what that stands for, it is
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Speaker 1: the acronym for republican in name only, right, you're a
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Speaker 1: fake Republican.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: There's also globalist Republicans that put the world ahead of.
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Speaker 2: Our interests in this country.
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Speaker 1: There are also Republicans that are just elitists, and they
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Speaker 1: think that they're smarter and wiser and better than you are.
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Speaker 1: The problem is those three categories that I gave you,
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Speaker 1: actually I believe make up the majority of Republicans that
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Speaker 1: are serving in Washington, d C. Some of them got
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Speaker 1: into power by masquerading as Tea Party conservatives. Others came
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Speaker 1: in and been there literally since the nineteen nineties when
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Speaker 1: there was a contract with America. And then there were
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Speaker 1: the Maga Republicans, even though some of them just used
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Speaker 1: that to get elected and they became the globalist. An
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Speaker 1: example of that is Mike Pence. Mike Pence is a
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Speaker 1: guy that's been no different than Jeb Bush or Mitt
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Speaker 1: Romney in my opinion. Of course, there would people like
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Speaker 1: Glad He served Donald Trump well until the very end
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Speaker 1: when they had problems with each other. On January the sixth,
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Speaker 1: and that's fine if you have problems with one another,
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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I don't think you have to
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Speaker 1: pledge allegiance to one person or one ideal or one individual.
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Speaker 2: I think you have to stay true to yourself.
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Speaker 1: But there's also faking it, and I think it's pretty
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Speaker 1: clear that that is exactly what Mike Pence was doing
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Speaker 1: the entire time he was in the Trump administration. He
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Speaker 1: was faking it because he cared more about being the
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Speaker 1: vice president than being out of power, and he was
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Speaker 1: willing to fake it to make it work so he
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Speaker 1: could keep that job. But as soon as that opportunity
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Speaker 1: the door closed, he then went back to being who
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Speaker 1: he actually is, and who is Mike Pence. He's a
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Speaker 1: guy that puts the world ahead of American interest. Now,
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Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I'm not trying to beat
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Speaker 1: up Okay, I want to be very very clear. I
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Speaker 1: am not trying to beat up on Mike Pence. I
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Speaker 1: just want you and everybody else to understand that these
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Speaker 1: are the conservatives that aren't real. They're not authentic, they're
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Speaker 1: not genuine. They're Republicans in name only. They are globalists.
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Speaker 1: They are not hard true conservative leaders that are going
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Speaker 1: to stand with us and fight hard to actually change
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Speaker 1: this country. Now, there is the first Republican kind of
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Speaker 1: forum debate that took place, and it was a debate
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Speaker 1: that took place. It was actually run by Tucker Carlson.
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Speaker 1: Everybody that's running for the Republican side, to my knowledge,
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Speaker 1: showed up except for Donald Trump, who had a scheduling
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Speaker 1: conflict quote unquote. The others that showed up, he asked
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Speaker 1: pretty tough questions. Now, there were some that were saying,
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Speaker 1: why would you ever do this, because all you're doing
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Speaker 1: is debating a guy that's not running for president, and
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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, there are others that said, this is exactly
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Speaker 1: what we need to weed out bad candidates. Is someone
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Speaker 1: that's actually willing to challenge these Republican players, these people
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Speaker 1: that claim to be hardcore conservatives, and when you challenge them,
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Speaker 1: then you find out who they really are because instead
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Speaker 1: of just these simple questions by these fake moderators on
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Speaker 1: TV during the debates, you're getting down into the nitty
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Speaker 1: gritty one on one when you go up against Tucker Carlson. Now,
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Speaker 1: part of this conversation was extremely revealing of who Mitt
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Speaker 1: Romney I'm sorry, Mike Pences. It's hard I get them
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Speaker 1: confused a lot because they're basically now the exact same person.
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence is sitting there on stage and he's talking
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Speaker 1: about how we need to send things like jets and
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Speaker 1: other things to Ukraine, and Tucker Carlson says, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: mister Vice President, and then the wheels come off, and
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen carefully to what Mike Pence
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Speaker 1: says in this clip.
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Speaker 3: Well, let somebody transfer some jets.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Vice President.
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Speaker 4: Have you I know you're running for president, you are
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Speaker 4: you are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.
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Speaker 4: Every city in the United States has become much.
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Speaker 2: Worse over the past three years. Drive around.
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Speaker 4: There's not one city that's gotten better in the United.
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Speaker 2: States, and it's visible.
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Speaker 4: Our economy has degraded, the suicide rate has jumped, public
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Speaker 4: filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased.
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Speaker 2: And yet your concern.
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Speaker 4: Is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find
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Speaker 4: on a map, who've received tens of billions of US
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Speaker 4: tax dollars, don't have enough tanks. I think it's a
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Speaker 4: fair question to ask late, where's the concern for the
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Speaker 4: United States in that?
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Speaker 3: It's not my concern? Tucker, I've heard that routine from
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Speaker 3: you before, But.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear what he just said? He just said,
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Speaker 1: that's not my concern. I'm going to back it up.
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Speaker 1: Listen carefully as the way it's described, He's like, you
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Speaker 1: guys aren't even focusing on America, and Mike Pence says,
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Speaker 1: and I'm quoting, that's not my concern, meaning you, the
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Speaker 1: American people are not my concern. I'm putting Ukraine over
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Speaker 1: the American people in the US.
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Speaker 2: Listen, your concern.
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Speaker 4: Is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find
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Speaker 4: out a map, who've received tens of billions of US
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Speaker 4: tax dollars, don't have enough tanks. I think it's a
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Speaker 4: fair question to ask Lake, where's the concern for the
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Speaker 4: United States?
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Speaker 2: In that? It's not my concern? Tucker. I've heard that
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Speaker 2: routine from you. It's not my concern.
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Speaker 1: Everyone needs to take that audio that I just played
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Speaker 1: for you, and you need to share it everywhere because
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Speaker 1: this is how we get rid of these rhinos like
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence, like Mitt Romney, like Paul Ryan. This is
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Speaker 1: what they actually believe he got caught there because he
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Speaker 1: was so irritated with Tucker Carlson for challenging him that
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Speaker 1: he said, that's not my concern, and he said it
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Speaker 1: with anger, and I believe him, by the way, believe
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Speaker 1: people when they say things like this, It's not his concern. You,
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Speaker 1: the American people, are not the concern of Mike Pince.
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Speaker 1: He cares more about being a globalist and going all
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Speaker 1: over the world and being involved in all these different wars.
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Speaker 1: Because it's not as concern the American people. Listen carefully
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Speaker 1: again as he says it, and understand that you have
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Speaker 1: the former Vice president of United States of America, Mike Pince,
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Speaker 1: telling you that you are not his problem.
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Speaker 2: Where's the concern for the United States in that.
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Speaker 3: It's not my concern, Tucker, I've heard that routine from
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Speaker 3: you before. But that's not my concern. I'm running for
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Speaker 3: president of the United States because I think this country's
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Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. I think Joe Biden is
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Speaker 3: weakened America at home and abroad.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's not my concern. It wasn't done there. By
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Speaker 2: the way. We also has asked about America running very.
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Speaker 1: Low on weapons, And what does that mean since we're
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Speaker 1: giving them all away, says I.
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Speaker 2: We just need more of your dollars. We just need
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Speaker 2: to invest more.
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Speaker 4: Last question in Kragiough, the Pentagon says that because of
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Speaker 4: the munitions of the material we have sent to Ukraine,
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Speaker 4: we are we're very low in enharm stock files.
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Speaker 2: Is that a concern to you?
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Speaker 3: On the one fifty five artillery? And I have no
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Speaker 3: reason to disbelieve that. Look, it's the answer, though, is
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Speaker 3: the answer is not to shrink from America's role as
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Speaker 3: leader to the free world. The answer is to invest
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Speaker 3: in our national defense. I really do believe that. Look,
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Speaker 3: remember in a year and a half, and again we
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Speaker 3: have a strong disagreement on.
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Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure we do.
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Speaker 3: That's okay, Well, that'd be great if we didn't.
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Speaker 1: This is a guy that just told you the answer
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Speaker 1: is not to shrink from America's role as leader of
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Speaker 1: the free world.
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Speaker 2: The answers to invest in our national defense. I really
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Speaker 2: do believe that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, then why are you sending all of our munitions
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Speaker 1: over right now and giving us at an all time low?
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Speaker 2: You know, there's also another problem with his claims.
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence will tell you what an amazing, great, godly
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Speaker 1: Christian man he is, and he's all about religious freedom.
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Speaker 2: But there's a problem with that. And I'm not doubting
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Speaker 2: his faith.
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Speaker 1: But what I am doubting is a sincerity to this
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Speaker 1: idea that he's going to stand up around the world
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Christians, they're being persecuted. Why do
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Speaker 1: I say this because there are people of faith that
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Speaker 1: are being persecuted. Religious leaders are being locked up right
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Speaker 1: now in Ukraine. Tucker Carlson also asked him about that.
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Speaker 1: Listen carefully to the arrogance coming from Mike Pence.
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Speaker 2: May I ask, would you be?
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Speaker 4: And I believe you have a good faith position on
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Speaker 4: this and we have disagreements on it, but I wanted
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Speaker 4: to I can't let you a lie over the question
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Speaker 4: of the treatment of Christians.
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Speaker 2: As I heard that, would you be? No, But hold on,
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Speaker 2: would your I.
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Speaker 3: Don't accept my answer.
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Speaker 2: I just told you that.
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Speaker 3: I asked the religious leader in Kiv if it was happening,
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Speaker 3: asked me if I raised the issue, and I did,
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Speaker 3: and I'm saying I also raised it with the Ukrainians
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Speaker 3: and I was told that there are religious leaders who
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Speaker 3: have been working with the Russian military that is murdering
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Speaker 3: people by the thousands. Okay, I mean, Tucker, look hold on,
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Speaker 3: don't you think let me explain to you what I
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Speaker 3: think our national interest is there.
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Speaker 4: I would think you would have greater concern for religious
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Speaker 4: liberty in Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: And I'm surprised I told you I raised the issue
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Speaker 3: of religious liberty.
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Speaker 4: You spoke to one person who's clearly on one side
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Speaker 4: of it. And there are many, many news reports that
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Speaker 4: are not disputed by anybody that many clergy have been
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Speaker 4: arrested in Ukraine, and I'm merely saying I may not
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Speaker 4: agree with their views. I'm not Russian Orthodox, but you
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Speaker 4: can't arrest clergy for having different views, period, because if
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Speaker 4: you do, you violate the basic tenet of.
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Speaker 3: Book I won't look. I want to be clear with you.
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Speaker 3: I won't stand by it. I won't stand for it.
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Speaker 3: If people are being persecuted for their religious beliefs, I
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Speaker 3: won't stand for it in any country with WISFRA country
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Speaker 3: of our nation is supporting or our allies or support yes, period.
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Speaker 1: Paragraph I'm sorry. I don't believe Mike Pence. I think
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence there is losing because he doesn't have the
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Speaker 1: facts on his side, and when Mike Pence is visually
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Speaker 1: frustrated at Tucker Carlson for pressing him on religious freedom,
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Speaker 1: it's a fair question to ask. Mike Pence also claimed
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Speaker 1: there was no restrictions on religious freedom in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: That's a lie.
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Speaker 1: There is restrictions on religious freedom in Ukraine.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: Tucker also broke it down even bigger than Ukraine, and
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Speaker 1: he talked about, like, hey, your entire foreign policy I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure the majority of conservatives would agree with in essence,
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Speaker 1: listen to this bigger and broader viewpoint as well.
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Speaker 4: Issued a bunch of public statements about your views on
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Speaker 4: foreign policy which are within, definitely within the mainstream of
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Speaker 4: Republican views as far as I can tell. You recently
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Speaker 4: met with Zelensky, acording to news reports, and I'm wondering
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Speaker 4: if during that meeting, as a prominent Christian leader, which
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Speaker 4: you are, in additionsip political views, you broach the question
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Speaker 4: of his treatment of Christians within Ukraine. The Zelensky government
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Speaker 4: has rated convents, arrested priests, has effectively banned a denomination,
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Speaker 4: a Christian denomination Ukraine. Orthodox Church within Ukraine has persecuted Christians,
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Speaker 4: and I wondered if you raised.
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Speaker 5: That with him.
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Speaker 3: I did raise the issue when we were there, and
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Speaker 3: I raised it with the leader of the Orthodox Church
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Speaker 3: when I'm visiting Kiev and asked him about concerns about
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Speaker 3: religious liberty. He assured me that the Zelenski government in
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Speaker 3: Ukraine was respecting religious liberty, even while recognizing that there
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Speaker 3: were very small elements of the Russian Orthodox Church that
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Speaker 3: we're being utilized for the purpose of advancing the Russian
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Speaker 3: cause in Ukraine, and that they were they were taking
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Speaker 3: steps to hold them to account. But the leader of
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Speaker 3: the church at Saint Michael's and Kiev told me personally
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Speaker 3: that he believed that the Zelenski government was respecting religious liberty.
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Speaker 3: And I must tell you, other than the sanctity of life,
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Speaker 3: there's no higher priority in my life than preserving the
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Speaker 3: freedom of religion in America and championing religious liberty around
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Speaker 3: the world.
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Speaker 2: I'm confused on this question.
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Speaker 4: It's very clear that the Zelenski government has arrested priests
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Speaker 4: for having views they disagree with. That's not consistent with
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Speaker 4: religious liberty. It's an attack on it, and we're funding it.
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Speaker 4: And I'm just wondering, how is it and I don't
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Speaker 4: mean to be disrespectful at all, but I sincerely wonder
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Speaker 4: how a Christian leader could support the arrests of Christians
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Speaker 4: for having different views.
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Speaker 3: Well, what I can tell you is I asked a
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Speaker 3: Christian leader in Kiv if that was in fact happening,
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Speaker 3: and he assured me that it was not. People were
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Speaker 3: not being persecuted for their religious beliefs.
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Speaker 2: Now, he said, take a break here.
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Speaker 1: I know we just by the way you hear Tucker there,
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Speaker 1: he says to him, and you can see where this
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Speaker 1: is going.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: This is part of what I played for you earlier,
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Speaker 1: but this is the more extended version of it. How
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Speaker 1: we got to that point. But he said, are you
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Speaker 1: saying that no priests have been arrested there? The other
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Speaker 1: thing is, when you're dealing with Ukraine, you're just going
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Speaker 1: to take people at face value for what they say.
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Speaker 1: This country is in many ways more corrupt than Russia,
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Speaker 1: and that's saying something. The joke in Russia was, you
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Speaker 1: want to see corruption, go to Ukraine. You think it's
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Speaker 1: bad in Russia, go to Ukraine. That's been known for decades.
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Speaker 1: I've heard the same exact thing when I met with
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Speaker 1: world leaders in Hungary when I met with the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister of Hungary, Victor Arband. You think it's you guys
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Speaker 1: have seen nothing when it comes to corruption until you
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Speaker 1: see what's happening in Ukraine. Follow the money. That's why
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Speaker 1: they're against US war. That's why they're against people funding
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Speaker 1: the war. That's why they're saying war is bad, and
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Speaker 1: they don't like the idea that we're You know that
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Speaker 1: all of this is ratcheting up, because he's also saying,
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Speaker 1: in essence, you guys are getting played. You guys are
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Speaker 1: sending all these weapons and all this cash, and it's
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Speaker 1: going into the bank account to some of the most
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Speaker 1: shady corrupt Ukrainians, including Zelensky. And I don't believe, by
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Speaker 1: the way, that Mike Pence is this dense. I think
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Speaker 1: Mike Pence is actually a really smart guy. I think
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Speaker 1: his answer was just really stupid on this one. He
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Speaker 1: thought I could get away with it, and Tucker Carlson's.
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Speaker 2: Like, no, no, no, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get away with it. Man, Like,
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Speaker 1: are you telling me that these people have not been arrested.
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Speaker 1: It's a fair question to ask, It's an important question
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Speaker 1: to ask. It's a question that should be asked, and
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Speaker 1: you can hear Mike Pence. He gets he gets irritated,
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Speaker 1: is a kind way of putting it right.
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Speaker 2: He's he's a little.
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Speaker 1: Frustrated that he's having to answer questions from Tucker Carlson.
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Speaker 1: But the question that Tucker just asked, I'm gonna back
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Speaker 1: it up five seconds. Listen, he's gonna say, you're saying
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Speaker 1: that they haven't been arrested.
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Speaker 3: For their religious beliefs. Now take a break here. I
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Speaker 3: know we disagree on this strongly, but I respect your
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Speaker 3: right to your opinion on Ukraine, and I trust your
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Speaker 3: respect mine. Look, look, okay, look, I've been to Ukraine
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Speaker 3: now twice. My wife and I traveled into Ukraine a
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Speaker 3: month after the initiation of hostilities. We traveled then with
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Speaker 3: a group called Samaritans Purse, providing Christian relief to the
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Speaker 3: millions of Ukrainians, women and children of every age that
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Speaker 3: had to flee that country in the face of the
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Speaker 3: unprovoked Russian invasion that began a year and a half ago.
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Speaker 3: I did return, took eleven hour train ride into Kiev,
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Speaker 3: also again with Samaritan's Purse. We not only met with
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Speaker 3: government leaders, but we met with Christian relief workers. We're
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Speaker 3: literally rebuilding homes of people in small towns, little hamlets
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Speaker 3: a year ago were being shelled by Russian tanks. All
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Speaker 3: the people in that community were just sitting in their homes.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is what I saw was not
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Speaker 3: just evidence of war, but I saw evil. And I
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Speaker 3: believe that it is in the interest of the United
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Speaker 3: States of America to continue to give the Ukrainian military
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Speaker 3: the resources that they need to repel the Russian invasion
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Speaker 3: and restore their sovereignty.
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Speaker 1: May I ask, would you be And now you can
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Speaker 1: hear the audience they're doing, And this is why we
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Speaker 1: have to do a better job of.
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Speaker 2: Vetting these people. We have to do a better job
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Speaker 2: this debate.
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Speaker 1: By the way, if I was a candidate and I
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Speaker 1: was a Rhino, I wouldn't do okay this interview. If
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Speaker 1: I was Mike Pence, I wouldn't have showed up. If
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Speaker 1: I knew I was going to do this, I would
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Speaker 1: not have shown up because the points that talk or
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Speaker 1: making are valid, right, I mean, why are you more concerned?
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Speaker 1: Why aren't you more concerned about the US over Ukraine?
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Speaker 1: And he's like, that's not my concern. Okay, well, that
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Speaker 1: tells you that you don't want him to be the
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Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. You know the
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Speaker 1: fact that he's saying that we're very low on weapons
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Speaker 1: and munitions and that's why we need to invest more.
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Speaker 1: That concerns me because we're sending this all away, you know, Mike,
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Speaker 1: Mike Penn's claiming there are no restrictions on religious freedom
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: That's just not true.
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Speaker 1: He claims it Zelenski's only arresting priests supporting Russia based
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Speaker 1: on what we've seen, that's not true.
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Speaker 2: These are all things.
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Speaker 1: That are I think, very important for us to hear,
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Speaker 1: you know, Tucker Carlson. It wasn't just by the way
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Speaker 1: Mike penns that he gave a hard time to and
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Speaker 1: ask these tough questions. He also former Arkansas Governor Asa Hodgson.
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Speaker 1: He's running for president as a Republican. Another one that
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Speaker 1: needs to be owned because he's not a hardcore conservative.
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Speaker 2: He's a rhino. He's a globalist.
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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say when he was asking
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Speaker 1: him about how many COVID shots he's had. Listen carefully, but.
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Speaker 4: One of the powers that government, did you surp over
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Speaker 4: the past several years, is the right to decide what
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Speaker 4: medicine you take in the form of COVID mandates? How
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Speaker 4: did you feel about that? And how many COVID shots
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Speaker 4: did you take? And how do you feel about it
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Speaker 4: now in retrospect?
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Speaker 6: How many COVID shots did you take?
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Speaker 2: Zero?
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Speaker 4: But I think it's fair and I can see that
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Speaker 4: you were repoiled when I asked you that question. And
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Speaker 4: I don't think, honestly you should be asking people about.
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Speaker 2: Their medical care.
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Speaker 4: But that became a matter of public policy, and I
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Speaker 4: do think that the whole country ought to pause and assess, like,
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Speaker 4: what did we just go through?
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Speaker 2: How do we feel about it now? So it's a
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Speaker 2: very straightforward You.
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Speaker 1: Notice how ASA thought, oh, I'm going to take it
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Speaker 1: to Tucker. You don't want to answer the question, And
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Speaker 1: that tells you about the temperament that he would be
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Speaker 2: We do a crappy job of vetting our candidates. We do.
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Speaker 2: We are awful at it.
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Speaker 1: We are absolutely horrific at anything that deals with vetting
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Speaker 1: candiates because we hear them say saying right, all right,
21:43
Speaker 1: sounds good, and we just let them go through the process.
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Speaker 1: And what Tucker Carlson was doing is saying, no, now,
21:49
Speaker 1: I want to play for you real quick, this back
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Speaker 1: and forth over transitioning and surgeries. We need more of this, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Asa Hudgson on child transition surgeries. We need more of
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Speaker 1: this type of questioning that Tucker gave for every candidate.
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Speaker 6: Listen in face and I believe in a limited role
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Speaker 6: of government, and so you know, if I don't think
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Speaker 6: that California ought to be able to tell parents you
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Speaker 6: need to have gender affirming care for the children, the
22:21
Speaker 6: government should not do that. And in the same way,
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Speaker 6: let's keep the government out of it unless it's that
22:28
Speaker 6: extreme case, and let's let.
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Speaker 2: Parents guide the children. I stayed with parents, so.
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Speaker 4: And amen for standing with parents, and I think everyone
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Speaker 4: in the room would agree with that. But the reason
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Speaker 4: I asked the question was not to bring up a
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Speaker 4: source subject, which I know that it is, but to
22:44
Speaker 4: ask if in the subsequent two years you had said
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Speaker 4: that you drew the line at castration of physical altercation
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Speaker 4: of a child's body because it's permanent. But in the
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Speaker 4: subsequent two years, I think we've learned that hormone therapy
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Speaker 4: for pre pubescent children is permanent. It changes the bone structure,
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Speaker 4: it changes the brain.
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Speaker 2: Of the child.
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Speaker 4: That a lot of people believe, including me, that it
23:06
Speaker 4: destroys the child's life. But it is permanent, it's not reversible.
23:09
Speaker 4: So given that in the standard you just articulated, do
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Speaker 4: you have different feelings? I mean, this is a permanent
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Speaker 4: change we are making.
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Speaker 2: To a child. Why would we allow that if we
23:18
Speaker 2: don't allow surgery?
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Speaker 6: Well, permanent change is one issue, but also hormonal treatment
23:24
Speaker 6: is a different issue and can be a different issue.
23:28
Speaker 6: And whenever you look at the bill that I vetoed,
23:30
Speaker 6: there was not any grandfather clause in there. Again, I
23:35
Speaker 6: respect legislators that have a different view, but I think independently.
23:39
Speaker 2: I think of the parents.
23:40
Speaker 6: I think of the Constitution, and actually the court, if
23:43
Speaker 6: you read the decision of the federal judge that struck
23:45
Speaker 6: it down is unconstitutional, really sided with parents as well.
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Speaker 2: But how is what I read? But how is it treatment?
23:51
Speaker 2: I guess that's my question.
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Speaker 4: If you have a child who says he is born
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Speaker 4: a boy, I want to become a girl. He hasn't
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Speaker 4: gone through puberty yet, he's say ten, is it treatment
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Speaker 4: to prevent him from going through the natural process of adolescence.
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Speaker 4: How is that treatment? It seems not really treatment, it
24:08
Speaker 4: seems like something else.
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Speaker 2: Well, you'll have to Tucker.
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Speaker 6: I hope that we'll be able to talk about some issues.
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Speaker 2: I know that, Well, this is.
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Speaker 4: One of the biggest issues in the country, and I
24:18
Speaker 4: think I would do every person in this room would
24:20
Speaker 4: agree that it is a central issue because it's these
24:25
Speaker 4: are children who are being altered permanently, and you can
24:28
Speaker 4: defend that alteration, that change if you like, but there's
24:32
Speaker 4: really no debate about whether or not it's permanent. And
24:34
Speaker 4: so I think it's fair to ask you, in a
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Speaker 4: commrational and I very much ho polite way, why you
24:38
Speaker 4: would support that.
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Speaker 1: The idea that he's like, I wish we could talk
24:43
Speaker 1: about real issues.
24:44
Speaker 2: This is a real issue.
24:46
Speaker 1: And when you want to do that right, when you
24:49
Speaker 1: want to just move past it like it's no big deal,
24:52
Speaker 1: well let's talk. I hope we have time to work
24:55
Speaker 1: and talk about real issues. This is He's a real issue.
25:02
Speaker 1: Glenn Beck, by the way, this is on the Blaze
25:04
Speaker 1: his reaction to Asa Hutch in an interview he pulled.
25:08
Speaker 1: He described it this way.
25:10
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that.
25:14
Speaker 7: You know, at one point in America, the hopes and
25:18
Speaker 7: dreams of hundreds and hundreds of people as they looked
25:23
Speaker 7: up into the sky and those in the sky that
25:25
Speaker 7: looked down they thought it was going to go in
25:29
Speaker 7: one way, and twenty nine seconds later the entire Hindenburg
25:33
Speaker 7: was on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Now again, everyone that's listening to this should be glad
25:39
Speaker 1: that there's finally somebody on a stage with the Republicans
25:42
Speaker 1: it's willing to ask actually tough questions and have a
25:46
Speaker 1: dialogue with him.
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Speaker 2: This is called the vetting process.
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Speaker 1: You want to be president, it's America, and if you
25:51
Speaker 1: get taken down by just basic questions, that's not a
25:56
Speaker 1: bad thing, folks, that's a good thing.
25:58
Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. It's actually an amazing thing.
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Speaker 1: We should now demand this for every single Republican running
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Speaker 1: for office. Another one, by the way, that didn't do
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Speaker 1: that great. It's a guy that I actually liked personally,
26:10
Speaker 1: Tim Scott. I think he's a really nice guy. But
26:13
Speaker 1: does that mean that that's qualification to be president.
26:15
Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: Tim Scott was asked about America's interest in Russia and
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Speaker 1: what's happening with Ukraine, and I'm going to play these
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Speaker 1: three clips for you.
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Speaker 2: Quickly listen to the first one.
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Speaker 4: So you know, a nation that great has to beware
26:30
Speaker 4: of threats to its very existence.
26:32
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
26:33
Speaker 4: Yesterday Biden mobilized reserves.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
26:39
Speaker 4: And are you concerned that we're moving, as we seem
26:42
Speaker 4: to be, toward war with Russia.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would say that without any question, we
26:47
Speaker 5: should never allow American soldiers to be engulfed into the
26:55
Speaker 5: challenge between Ukraine and Russia. Our boots on the ground
26:59
Speaker 5: should not be there the ability my mama wanted to preach,
27:08
Speaker 5: or some will stand up.
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Speaker 2: And do it that way, Iljah.
27:13
Speaker 5: So literally so, I think one of the failures of
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Speaker 5: President Biden has been his inability to articulate America's national
27:22
Speaker 5: vital interest in the conflict or the genocide in Ukraine.
27:27
Speaker 5: America's national vital interests is degrading the Russian military. When
27:32
Speaker 5: we degrade the Russian military, we make sure that our
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Speaker 5: home front is safer and that our NATO ally partners
27:39
Speaker 5: that would cause us to send soldiers over is safe.
27:43
Speaker 5: When we have the land contiguous with Ukraine safe, we
27:48
Speaker 5: keep our American soldiers at home, and our primary objective
27:51
Speaker 5: should only be to engage when America's vital national interests
27:56
Speaker 5: are being engaged in. Unfortunately, President Biden has no ability
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Speaker 5: to understand and appreciate what.
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Speaker 2: That looks like.
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Speaker 1: Wait, now, Tucker noticed the exact same thing that I
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Speaker 1: noticed in those comments from Tim Scott, And listen to him.
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Speaker 1: Try to clarify and get clarification from Tim Scott on
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Speaker 1: this talking about so basically, you're saying that our national
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Speaker 1: interest is to fight Russians, and we should do that
28:21
Speaker 1: whenever and wherever we can, I ask you.
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Speaker 4: So, you're saying that it's in our national interest, vital
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Speaker 4: national interests, to degrade the Russian military, in other words,
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Speaker 4: to fight Russia with other people's soldiers.
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Speaker 5: I would say this way. If you think about the
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Speaker 5: world order that we established after World War Two, if
28:40
Speaker 5: you think about a rules based system, where does the
28:43
Speaker 5: rules based system come from? It comes from this nation,
28:46
Speaker 5: our Judeo Christian foundation that says that there are rules
28:49
Speaker 5: of the road, that there is something called absolute truth,
28:53
Speaker 5: and we established that.
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Speaker 2: As a part of that absolute truth.
28:57
Speaker 5: What we're trying to do is make sure that our
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Speaker 5: home front remain safe. Keeping our home front safe means
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Speaker 5: that evaluating the actual threats to our country. The most
29:08
Speaker 5: immediate military threat that could happen is Russia. Why is
29:12
Speaker 5: a good question. You look at their six generation jets,
29:16
Speaker 5: you look at their hypersonic weapons, you look at their
29:18
Speaker 5: nuclear arsenal. Everything that we do that degrades the Russian
29:21
Speaker 5: military is good for America. You look at the long
29:24
Speaker 5: term threat to our nation, it's China. Their existential threat
29:28
Speaker 5: that we face long term becomes China. You look at
29:30
Speaker 5: this rising access of evil that we're being formed, it's Russia, China,
29:36
Speaker 5: and Iran. Breaking that to peace is before it gets started,
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Speaker 5: I think, is in our vital interests?
29:43
Speaker 2: Is it in our vital interests?
29:45
Speaker 6: Right?
29:46
Speaker 2: Is this really in our vital interest for us to
29:48
Speaker 2: do that? Maybe? But how much money should we spend?
29:51
Speaker 2: And where do we draw that line?
29:54
Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 1: Tucker also says one other thing, why not, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe go for peace instead of war and see if
29:59
Speaker 1: that could work?
30:00
Speaker 2: Right?
30:00
Speaker 1: Is there another way besides just sending all these weapons
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Speaker 1: to Ukraine and all this mighty Ukraine? As American taxpayers
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Speaker 1: are suffering right now?
30:09
Speaker 2: You know the war very quickly, So why not force
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Speaker 2: a peace? How would you do? Well?
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Speaker 4: You could tell Ukraine and they are a client state
30:19
Speaker 4: of the United States. Without American backing, there's kind of
30:21
Speaker 4: no Ukraine. We're literally paying the salaries of their bureaucrats.
30:26
Speaker 4: We want you to sit down as they tried to
30:29
Speaker 4: do but were stopped by our government, and stop this
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Speaker 4: war and reach a piece as one does where both sides,
30:36
Speaker 4: you know, concede some of their interests, Like why wouldn't
30:39
Speaker 4: that be in our interest to do that?
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Speaker 5: I think the faster we get to piece, the better
30:42
Speaker 5: off we are. What we don't want to do, from
30:44
Speaker 5: my perspective is allow ourselves to ask for a premature
30:48
Speaker 5: piece that cannot be achieved. As the alliances continue to
30:52
Speaker 5: come together to the extent that we can find our
30:54
Speaker 5: path out of this situation, the better off we are.
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Speaker 4: So what's the point at which we know that we've
31:00
Speaker 4: achieved our goal? And I say that within the context
31:03
Speaker 4: of having watched twenty years of occupation in Afghanistan where
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Speaker 4: nobody could answer the question what's the point? And no
31:10
Speaker 4: one in Congress ever asked that question? Amazingly, so is
31:14
Speaker 4: the what is the specific goal here?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? So I would say that the objective should be
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Speaker 5: for Selenski and Ukraine to be able to achieve victory
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Speaker 5: by maintaining as much of their territory as they possibly can,
31:27
Speaker 5: and then seeing the resources that we've deployed along with
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Speaker 5: our Western alliances, achieving the peace that I believe comes
31:36
Speaker 5: when you get these two folks to sit down and
31:38
Speaker 5: have a conversation that allows them to determine where those
31:41
Speaker 5: lines will be drawn for the next one hundred years.
31:44
Speaker 2: Okay, so, in other words, never ending wars now again.
31:51
Speaker 1: You may agree with Tim Scott and what he said there,
31:54
Speaker 1: but these are the real questions that we should have
31:56
Speaker 1: and we should expect this moving forward in every presidential
32:00
Speaker 1: former every president debate. I also love the fact that
32:03
Speaker 1: there's not commercial breaks there to kind of regather your thoughts,
32:06
Speaker 1: right because we do this all for the cameras. Unfortunately,
32:09
Speaker 1: usually it's like a talent show contest. This was a
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Speaker 1: different forum, and as conservatives, we should demand this type
32:18
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32:28
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32:31
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