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- 1:54Speaker 1: Runda Wills. Since forming a law firm nearly two decades ago,
- 1:57Speaker 1: Judge Wills has recovered over one hundred million US fighting
- 2:00Speaker 1: for the rights of everyday Americans and they applied against
- 2:03Speaker 1: corporate giants. She uses her expertise and intellect to give
- 2:06Speaker 1: vorce to those who need her most. The worker who
- 2:09Speaker 1: has been wronged by their employer, a person who has
- 2:11Speaker 1: been discriminated against, sexual ass and sexual assaulted, and those
- 2:15Speaker 1: who have suffered catastrophic physical injuries. She is now making
- 2:18Speaker 1: a mark on TV. Come on, not starve. A new
- 2:21Speaker 1: court show. Relative Justice with Judge runder Wills is a
- 2:24Speaker 1: new arbitration based reality court show which centers on solving
- 2:28Speaker 1: inter family legal dispute. We gotta find out what that's
- 2:31Speaker 1: all about. Relative Justed with Judge runder Wills premiers in
- 2:34Speaker 1: September and has been cleared in eighty percent of the country.
- 2:38Speaker 1: That's a lot for a new show. I'm here, that's
- 2:39Speaker 1: pretty impressive. And when once she once everybody discovered sheets, Yeah,
- 2:43Speaker 1: she's gonna be okay. Please check out your local listening
- 2:47Speaker 1: because you should watch this show. Judge Will runder Wills
- 2:50Speaker 1: is on the show to talk about her career and
- 2:52Speaker 1: building her dream Please work with the money making conversations
- 2:55Speaker 1: for the very first time, but not the last time,
- 2:57Speaker 1: Judge Runda Wills, how you doing? Hi there soon? How
- 3:02Speaker 1: are you? It's great to be with you. Thank you.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I hope I got enough information about you out there,
- 3:06Speaker 1: you know, because you you perked up a little bit
- 3:08Speaker 1: when I was talking about you. So I'm assuming a
- 3:10Speaker 1: lot of people don't tell your story when they're doing
- 3:12Speaker 1: these interviews. Well, you know, a lot of people do,
- 3:17Speaker 1: but there are always a lot of other things I
- 3:20Speaker 1: want people to know about me. But I think you
- 3:21Speaker 1: cover most of this good because you know, when when
- 3:24Speaker 1: we look at it, let's let's be out. When you
- 3:25Speaker 1: look at a person, you're attractive, and some people tend
- 3:28Speaker 1: to just feel that way and they forget the fact
- 3:31Speaker 1: that there's a journey for anybody no matter how they look.
- 3:33Speaker 1: So tell us how I know your Texas girl, because
- 3:35Speaker 1: I'm a Texas boy, okay, and I know you live
- 3:38Speaker 1: in Houston. I'm from Houston, so we're already hitting it
- 3:40Speaker 1: off of you over there by the Tyler Rose Country
- 3:43Speaker 1: in East Texas. That's where he was born and raised.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Cabral Country. She's an cabol country, but she's raising herself
- 3:49Speaker 1: and a family and and delivering the level of success
- 3:52Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Let's talk about how you got started
- 3:56Speaker 1: in the law business and what attracted you to that,
- 3:59Speaker 1: because in my money making conversations, I try to give
- 4:02Speaker 1: people that you can do it too, and a lot
- 4:04Speaker 1: of people stop and feel they have to be born
- 4:07Speaker 1: in a certain family, that living in a certain part
- 4:09Speaker 1: of the country. But you come from a small, very
- 4:11Speaker 1: focusing ball Smithy. You're born and raised, but that didn't
- 4:13Speaker 1: stop you from going to a big school like the
- 4:15Speaker 1: University of Texas. Talk about your journey in early years,
- 4:19Speaker 1: Judge Wills. So, first of all, ri Sean, thank you
- 4:23Speaker 1: so much for having me on your podcast. This is amazing.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I've been watching your podcast. You're doing great things, and
- 4:29Speaker 1: so I'm excited to be here. Uh. My story is
- 4:33Speaker 1: one of very humble beginnings. I'm from this little bitty
- 4:36Speaker 1: town called Oneona. Uh. It's in East Texas, right outside
- 4:39Speaker 1: of Tyler. I'm one of five children. I was raised
- 4:42Speaker 1: by a single mother and my grandmother. Uh, and was
- 4:47Speaker 1: was just raised in a you know, a really really
- 4:50Speaker 1: frankly poor family. And I always knew that there was
- 4:54Speaker 1: a lot of injustice in the world, and I always
- 4:56Speaker 1: wanted to be someone who could right those wrongs and
- 4:59Speaker 1: help people. And I was just very fortunate that I
- 5:03Speaker 1: went to the University of Texas undergrad on a full scholarship.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I got an international business degree, and then I went
- 5:10Speaker 1: on to the University of Texas and got a law
- 5:12Speaker 1: degree again on a full scholarship, and started my law practice.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And I started out working for a really, really really
- 5:20Speaker 1: big law firm, and that wasn't what I wanted to do.
- 5:24Speaker 1: My passion was with helping people, um, and that's what
- 5:28Speaker 1: I wanted to do, was to help people. Uh So
- 5:30Speaker 1: I started my own law firm, and I have focused
- 5:34Speaker 1: my law practice for the last two decades on helping people,
- 5:39Speaker 1: just everyday Americans, to fight corporate giants, because in many
- 5:43Speaker 1: of the cases that I take, if I didn't speak
- 5:46Speaker 1: for them, if I was not their voice, they wouldn't
- 5:48Speaker 1: have a voice. And when really bad things happened to
- 5:51Speaker 1: people be being sexually assaulted or sexually harassed in the workplace,
- 5:56Speaker 1: being discriminated against on the basis of your race, your ender,
- 6:00Speaker 1: your sexual orientation, um, any of those things, surviving a
- 6:05Speaker 1: catastrophic personal injury without someone to come in and help
- 6:10Speaker 1: you to get economic justice, a lot of people would
- 6:13Speaker 1: have no justice and would have no way to start
- 6:16Speaker 1: and try and rebuild their life after going through something
- 6:19Speaker 1: extremely tragic. So I always knew that I wanted to
- 6:23Speaker 1: be a person who would go out there and fight
- 6:26Speaker 1: for the voiceless and fight for people that really, really
- 6:30Speaker 1: really wouldn't have a voice unless I stood up. Now,
- 6:34Speaker 1: judge under wills, here, I'm asking a simple question may
- 6:37Speaker 1: not be, But to me, what makes a good lawyer.
- 6:41Speaker 1: I think that what makes a good lawyer as someone
- 6:43Speaker 1: first of all, who studies the law, UM, who knows
- 6:47Speaker 1: the law, and somebody who's willing to go out and
- 6:50Speaker 1: fight and be fearless in the face of whoever they're
- 6:53Speaker 1: up against. UM. I'm fortunate in that I'm licensed in Texas, California,
- 6:59Speaker 1: and York, which just means I took a lot of
- 7:02Speaker 1: our exams, a lot of studying. But I've practiced all
- 7:05Speaker 1: over this country. I represent people all over the country. UM.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And one thing that I found is oftentimes I can
- 7:13Speaker 1: walk in to a courtroom and there's nobody there that
- 7:16Speaker 1: looks like me. But that doesn't matter to me. Doesn't
- 7:20Speaker 1: matter if I'm the only woman in the courtroom. It
- 7:22Speaker 1: doesn't matter if I'm the only black person in the courtroom.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if I'm the only black woman in the courtroom,
- 7:27Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm going to
- 7:30Speaker 1: bring it. As my grandmother always told me, you will
- 7:33Speaker 1: come up against people who have more money than you do,
- 7:36Speaker 1: who maybe went to better schools and you went to.
- 7:39Speaker 1: But one thing about it is no one will ever
- 7:41Speaker 1: outwork me. So I've always made that my mantra. You
- 7:46Speaker 1: will never outwork me. So no matter what it takes,
- 7:49Speaker 1: I put in the work. And that's what I try
- 7:51Speaker 1: to encourage, especially young women to do, to know that
- 7:54Speaker 1: you can do anything. Don't let anybody tell you what
- 7:57Speaker 1: you can or can't do. You can do anything. You
- 8:00Speaker 1: just have to put in the work. And I ask
- 8:02Speaker 1: you this because, you know, because it's funny watching you,
- 8:04Speaker 1: because it's a good funny, because you got passionate and
- 8:09Speaker 1: that's that spill first, you know, you you did the
- 8:12Speaker 1: nice name, Richelle. I'm so happy to be on the show.
- 8:14Speaker 1: This ain't a lot of great things about cool now
- 8:17Speaker 1: that speech right there, you got closer to the camera.
- 8:20Speaker 1: You know, you include your forehead browned a little bit,
- 8:24Speaker 1: you know, because that's what attracted people. I'm sure when
- 8:27Speaker 1: you did spots on television, you know, use information with passion,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and that's what's missing on television right now. But boy,
- 8:34Speaker 1: it's more importantly I would just tell you, she said,
- 8:36Speaker 1: no matter what's cool. Now, I'm gonna tell you about
- 8:38Speaker 1: University of Texas. That's one of the top schools in
- 8:41Speaker 1: the country. Okay, so let's go. She did just go
- 8:44Speaker 1: to a regular school. It's like a city they owned, Austin, Texas.
- 8:47Speaker 1: So I was just put that in perspective. She went
- 8:50Speaker 1: to a great school, she got a scholarship at an
- 8:53Speaker 1: amazing school. Even though I graduate University Houston, I still
- 8:56Speaker 1: can be respectful for ut and what they delivered down
- 8:59Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. Now, when you as an individual who
- 9:02Speaker 1: started trying to make a difference, we see so many
- 9:05Speaker 1: commercials on TV. How this person? You know, it's like
- 9:10Speaker 1: it's you know, legal law firms have gotten so powerful
- 9:14Speaker 1: from a commercial standpoint. They actually they actually will will
- 9:18Speaker 1: Well were sponsored news shows, the local news. That's why
- 9:21Speaker 1: I asked that question, what makes a good lawyer? Because
- 9:24Speaker 1: nowadays everyday people are just hit with so much information
- 9:28Speaker 1: on the radio, in print, on TV, and social media.
- 9:31Speaker 1: How do they how do they cut through that to
- 9:34Speaker 1: make the right decision to work with the lawyer that's
- 9:36Speaker 1: gonna benefit them. I guess that's the question I should
- 9:38Speaker 1: have asked you initially because of the fact that advertisement
- 9:41Speaker 1: for law firms and lawyers is so dominant in the
- 9:43Speaker 1: media today. Well, first and foremost, if they need a
- 9:47Speaker 1: good lawyer called my law firm, Will's law firm, PLLC,
- 9:50Speaker 1: so call me first. There are a lot of great
- 9:54Speaker 1: law firms out there. I think the most important thing
- 9:57Speaker 1: that people need to do is to educate themselves and
- 9:59Speaker 1: to make sure that you're hiring someone as a lawyer
- 10:03Speaker 1: who's going to represent you and be passionate about representing you.
- 10:07Speaker 1: I never ever stopped fighting for my clients no matter what. UM.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I have gone up against some of the biggest corporate giants.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I'm One of my biggest cases was I got a
- 10:18Speaker 1: twenty million dollar settlement against Wells Fargo in a class
- 10:21Speaker 1: action case. I've represent a lot of people. I've had
- 10:24Speaker 1: a lot of class action cases where, for example, a
- 10:27Speaker 1: group of African Americans that were being paid less than
- 10:29Speaker 1: their white counterparts. UM I I have, you know, represented
- 10:33Speaker 1: people that weren't paid all their wages. So for a
- 10:36Speaker 1: lot of people, they just don't get it. You know,
- 10:38Speaker 1: they think, Okay, well, you only got paid for forty
- 10:41Speaker 1: hours instead of fifty hours you work fifty hours. Well,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I was raised by a single mother. Sometimes my mother
- 10:47Speaker 1: had to work two and three jobs in order to
- 10:50Speaker 1: take care of us. So I know what it means
- 10:53Speaker 1: when somebody doesn't get paid when they work fifty hours
- 10:57Speaker 1: as opposed to forty hours, and those ten hours that
- 10:59Speaker 1: they didn't get paid for that can mean the difference
- 11:02Speaker 1: between food on the table or food not being on
- 11:04Speaker 1: the table. So, because of my humble background, I know
- 11:09Speaker 1: what it means for everyday people to struggle to fight.
- 11:14Speaker 1: And when I see these big corporations that put profits
- 11:18Speaker 1: over people, that makes me angry and that makes me fight.
- 11:22Speaker 1: I've had to fight cases all the way to the U. S.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I'm licensed before the U. S. Supreme Court,
- 11:27Speaker 1: so I will fight no matter how long, how hard
- 11:31Speaker 1: it requires, I will fight. In that case that I
- 11:34Speaker 1: had before the U. S. Supreme Court, I want a
- 11:36Speaker 1: five point two million dollar judgment for my client who
- 11:39Speaker 1: had his throat slashed at work by a co worker.
- 11:43Speaker 1: I want a five point two million dollar verdict against
- 11:47Speaker 1: that company. And they fought me all the way to
- 11:49Speaker 1: the U. S. Supreme Court, and I fought them in
- 11:51Speaker 1: one Wow. Now, you know you you didn't get into
- 11:55Speaker 1: this business to be on TV. Everybody you know you
- 11:58Speaker 1: got into the business because of you know, you smart
- 12:00Speaker 1: enough to get scholarships both undergraduate and graduate, and then
- 12:04Speaker 1: you launch you went to a big firm and then
- 12:06Speaker 1: because guess what, your academics allowed you to be recruited,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and you said yes, and then you said, you know
- 12:12Speaker 1: something that's not me, which is always a fear that
- 12:15Speaker 1: people have. There's so many people out there listening to
- 12:17Speaker 1: the show. They're going through life, stuck in relationships, stuck
- 12:21Speaker 1: at jobs that they shouldn't be because they fear fearful
- 12:24Speaker 1: of making that first step. How were you conscious from
- 12:27Speaker 1: a common standpoint or did you turn to other people
- 12:29Speaker 1: when you deciety to say you know that, I know
- 12:32Speaker 1: this check is nice and it's regularly got health benefits,
- 12:34Speaker 1: but it's not me. What what pushed you to that
- 12:37Speaker 1: next level to say I'm gonna I'm ana ride and
- 12:39Speaker 1: die with Ronda Wills, Well, there was one case I
- 12:44Speaker 1: had in particular, I had a trial and the person
- 12:48Speaker 1: only I represented a big corporation and the person on
- 12:51Speaker 1: the other side of that case was a black man.
- 12:54Speaker 1: And this black man was denied a contract and multimillion
- 12:58Speaker 1: dollar contract, and I had to go in court and
- 13:02Speaker 1: fight against this black man who had beat his own business,
- 13:06Speaker 1: had worked hard, and my job was to go in
- 13:09Speaker 1: and break this man down and destroy him. And we
- 13:14Speaker 1: tried the case and ultimately we beat him, and my
- 13:17Speaker 1: mother came and she watched me in that trial. And
- 13:20Speaker 1: at the end of that trial, my mother looked at
- 13:22Speaker 1: me and she said, baby, you did a great job,
- 13:26Speaker 1: and that poor little man over there, you're gonna beat him.
- 13:29Speaker 1: But she said, are you really on the right side
- 13:32Speaker 1: of this? Just because you can do something doesn't mean
- 13:35Speaker 1: you should be doing that. And I think you need
- 13:37Speaker 1: to look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself,
- 13:41Speaker 1: is this really what I went to law school for.
- 13:44Speaker 1: And so when my mother broke that down to me
- 13:46Speaker 1: like that, I realized, no, this is not what I
- 13:49Speaker 1: went to law school for. I went to law school
- 13:51Speaker 1: to represent people like the man that I just broke
- 13:53Speaker 1: down and beat in court. And that was my wake
- 13:57Speaker 1: up call. I'm gonna take a minute of that because
- 14:00Speaker 1: that was pretty powerful, because sometimes in life money doesn't
- 14:04Speaker 1: mean anything. I always tell people I'm not in the
- 14:06Speaker 1: game for the money. I'm in the game for the opportunity.
- 14:09Speaker 1: If the opportunity presents yourself that's something that I feel
- 14:12Speaker 1: personally benefit me and the people around me, then I
- 14:14Speaker 1: move forward on that. And that's the case, I think
- 14:17Speaker 1: what's happening there. The money brought you the opportunity, but
- 14:20Speaker 1: the opportunity this wasn't what you wanted to pursue long term.
- 14:23Speaker 1: And so when you when That's why parents are great
- 14:26Speaker 1: because they can look over the other side and go, child,
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- 14:34Speaker 1: put a plate on that food and they play something else,
- 14:36Speaker 1: you know some other ways. You know, I know that's right.
- 14:39Speaker 1: So you know what, Sean. The most amazing thing about
- 14:41Speaker 1: it is so I was working at that big firm
- 14:44Speaker 1: and the check was good. I'm not gonna lie. Check
- 14:46Speaker 1: was really good. But when I left and I stepped
- 14:49Speaker 1: out on shape and started doing what I passionately wanted
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- 16:56Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Now it's now your TV. Come on that you Oh
- 17:01Speaker 1: whoa what? Okay? We know the queen out there. Judge
- 17:06Speaker 1: Judy she'd been the queen. Judge Juty is on TV
- 17:09Speaker 1: uptime four hours a day. Some sit. Now you come
- 17:13Speaker 1: in there and there's a lot of people have come in.
- 17:14Speaker 1: I know my boy, you know, uh, Judge Judge, Judge
- 17:19Speaker 1: Judge Joe Brown. That was my boy. Uh you know
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- 17:25Speaker 1: le Bilien, that's my girl and now my girl, I'm
- 17:27Speaker 1: calling my girl to Judge runder Wills coming out there.
- 17:30Speaker 1: So yes, why did you because you see say you
- 17:34Speaker 1: have a great family of great mom, Why are you
- 17:37Speaker 1: in the Why are you getting in the TV business
- 17:39Speaker 1: like this with this show, which is a wonderful show,
- 17:41Speaker 1: by the way, Thank you. So first of all, before
- 17:44Speaker 1: I did Relative Justice, I had another show on WE
- 17:47Speaker 1: TV called Sisters in Law, and it was a reality
- 17:49Speaker 1: based TV show basically Houston followed my legal career, and
- 17:53Speaker 1: so that kind of got me into thinking about TV
- 17:57Speaker 1: is something that I might want to do. Before that,
- 17:59Speaker 1: I never even thought about it. When this opportunity came along,
- 18:05Speaker 1: it seemed perfect for me because I'm from a huge family.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I have four kids of my own. I'm one of
- 18:12Speaker 1: five kids. My grandmother had ten kids, and I've got
- 18:15Speaker 1: more than fifty first cousins, So I'm a huge family.
- 18:20Speaker 1: So what makes this show my show Relative Justice with
- 18:23Speaker 1: Judge Ronda Wills, What makes it different from the other
- 18:26Speaker 1: court TV shows is that we focus only on disputes
- 18:30Speaker 1: between family members. So everyone that comes on my show,
- 18:33Speaker 1: every litigant that you see, they're related by blood or
- 18:37Speaker 1: marriage for children. So that's what made this fascinating for
- 18:41Speaker 1: me because it's different from every other court TV show. Right, Well,
- 18:45Speaker 1: you know what you need to buy out? You know? Uh?
- 18:47Speaker 1: And family Girl that can be ugly. Now. Yeah, I'm
- 18:54Speaker 1: just thinking that because you know, because you sit up
- 18:55Speaker 1: there making me funny about Ronny. You know what you
- 18:58Speaker 1: talk about a big family. I come from six sister,
- 19:00Speaker 1: two brothers, So I'm about to kill that little big
- 19:02Speaker 1: family theory that you feature out there. You know, I
- 19:05Speaker 1: was I was number five. You just only had five. Okay,
- 19:08Speaker 1: you're running around, so we're just gonna kill that little
- 19:11Speaker 1: big family when you're talking to me. And my aunt
- 19:14Speaker 1: had sixteen kids, so we don't kick out of theory. Okay.
- 19:17Speaker 1: So so but that's my fun part of just talking
- 19:20Speaker 1: to you. But when you get into these what made you? Okay,
- 19:25Speaker 1: first of all, it's to take in l a. Where's
- 19:27Speaker 1: it take that show? The show has taken in Lexington, Kentucky, Okay,
- 19:31Speaker 1: which for me was great because I'm a small town
- 19:33Speaker 1: girl and I'm a Southern girl, so it was like
- 19:36Speaker 1: going home for me to be filming in Lexington. Oh,
- 19:38Speaker 1: it's beautiful because they do have their white picket fash
- 19:41Speaker 1: you go around and drive those Kentucky Hart Ranges. Just
- 19:44Speaker 1: beautiful Kentucky. So I've been up there. Now, now when
- 19:47Speaker 1: you're putting the show together, like so you have to
- 19:49Speaker 1: stand on reality TV. And I always tell people when
- 19:52Speaker 1: I interview people who do reality TV, why you know,
- 19:55Speaker 1: why would you do reality TV? And then you told
- 19:58Speaker 1: us an opportunity to come and do your own show,
- 20:00Speaker 1: Relative Justice with Judge Rhanda Wills, and you're taking it
- 20:03Speaker 1: anything in Kentucky, but you live in Houston, and then
- 20:06Speaker 1: you have you still have a successful law firm. Why
- 20:08Speaker 1: I have to ask the question why. And that's a
- 20:10Speaker 1: that's a positive why. It's not a negative white when
- 20:12Speaker 1: I say that, because some people will tell you, isn't
- 20:15Speaker 1: nothing enough? Don't you have? You? You got it going on?
- 20:18Speaker 1: You look good, you got money, you got kids, you
- 20:20Speaker 1: got you. When you're gonna stop, Rhonda, what's your what's
- 20:23Speaker 1: your problem? Girl? Well, I will tell you that. I
- 20:27Speaker 1: feel like a full life is a blessing. And every
- 20:30Speaker 1: blessing that God brings to me, I embrace it with
- 20:33Speaker 1: open arms and I run with it. So when this
- 20:37Speaker 1: opportunity was brought to me to do this show again,
- 20:40Speaker 1: this was a unique concept. There's no other core TV
- 20:43Speaker 1: show out there like this one because we only focus
- 20:47Speaker 1: on families. Now, when they come into my courtroom, it's
- 20:51Speaker 1: a money dispute, and I resolved the money dispute. But
- 20:55Speaker 1: above and beyond that money dispute, because these are families
- 20:58Speaker 1: that you're dealing with, I try to bring the families
- 21:01Speaker 1: back together again. There are some cases in my courtroom
- 21:04Speaker 1: where sisters get into a dispute about money and they
- 21:07Speaker 1: haven't spoken for years, and they come into my courtroom.
- 21:11Speaker 1: I have to resolve this money issue and then try
- 21:14Speaker 1: to get them back to being sisters again. I had
- 21:17Speaker 1: one case where a mother had a mother was there
- 21:22Speaker 1: against her son and daughter in law. She had taken
- 21:25Speaker 1: out a restraining order against her daughter in law, so
- 21:28Speaker 1: they had signed waivers just to be in the courtroom
- 21:30Speaker 1: because she had a restraining order against her daughter in law.
- 21:33Speaker 1: That's how broken down this family was. At the end
- 21:37Speaker 1: of this episode, at the end of my resolution of
- 21:40Speaker 1: this case, the mother, the daughter in law, and the
- 21:43Speaker 1: son are all crying and hugging and are have committed
- 21:47Speaker 1: to building their relationship again and being a family again.
- 21:51Speaker 1: So it's things like that that made me feel like
- 21:54Speaker 1: I'm really really making a difference. I got into the
- 21:57Speaker 1: practice of law to make a difference, and I'm doing
- 22:00Speaker 1: this TV show to make a difference. And the other
- 22:03Speaker 1: thing with Seawan that you're gonna see about my show
- 22:05Speaker 1: Relative Justice. That's different from other shows. So oftentimes a
- 22:09Speaker 1: lot of these family dramas, a lot of it. Uh,
- 22:14Speaker 1: it's not just something that people can work through on
- 22:16Speaker 1: their own. And I refer people for counseling and therapy
- 22:20Speaker 1: where appropriate, either family counseling, individual countling. Sometimes it's drug counseling,
- 22:26Speaker 1: sometimes it's trauma therapy. But I we also had a
- 22:29Speaker 1: therapist on staff who was there, and I would refer
- 22:33Speaker 1: some of the families to sit down and meet with
- 22:35Speaker 1: the therapist because there's so much stigma attached to getting
- 22:38Speaker 1: therapy and getting counseling, and oftentimes, especially with families, there's
- 22:43Speaker 1: a money dispute here, but that's just the surface, and
- 22:46Speaker 1: when you scratch underneath the surface, there's something much deeper
- 22:51Speaker 1: and much more dramatic going on, and sometimes you need
- 22:54Speaker 1: the help of a therapist, a family therapist in particular,
- 22:58Speaker 1: to help you as a family work through it. Well,
- 23:01Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking to Judge
- 23:02Speaker 1: rand Since it has a new show, Uh, there's gonna
- 23:05Speaker 1: be eight percent of the country again, congratulations, that's a
- 23:08Speaker 1: high number for a new show. A lot of people
- 23:10Speaker 1: understand in syndication, which which is a very competitive market,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and you know you're pre presiding over the show through
- 23:16Speaker 1: they say, your show compassion and tough love resolved literans
- 23:20Speaker 1: legal disputes, but to work towards, like you said, bringing
- 23:23Speaker 1: families back together in the process. We all know that
- 23:27Speaker 1: that that that's the end goal. But have I know
- 23:29Speaker 1: you're early in your judge career in this TV format,
- 23:33Speaker 1: has anything shocked you? Yet you go, I can't believe
- 23:36Speaker 1: they just couldn't understand like you just talked about like
- 23:39Speaker 1: you just talked about the restraining order and for the
- 23:42Speaker 1: daughter in law, and it's just so many things that
- 23:45Speaker 1: are going on out there's anything really went Wow, that's crazy,
- 23:50Speaker 1: so like every day something. But I tell you the
- 23:55Speaker 1: amazing thing about relative justice, people who want to tune
- 23:59Speaker 1: in every day because every day is different. Are some
- 24:02Speaker 1: days where with some cases, I'm laughing so hard that
- 24:05Speaker 1: i can barely get my ruling out because I'm laughing,
- 24:08Speaker 1: I'm falling, I'm about to fall from the bench because
- 24:11Speaker 1: I'm laughing hard. And there are other cases where it's
- 24:14Speaker 1: just so sad, I'm crying. I'm almost crying. Everybody in
- 24:18Speaker 1: the audience is crying, the litigans are crying. And then
- 24:20Speaker 1: there are other cases where people do something that's so wrong,
- 24:25Speaker 1: so toxic, so terrible that I have to tell them.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I have to tell them you're wrong and you need
- 24:30Speaker 1: to change and you need to do better, and I
- 24:32Speaker 1: have to actually go in on them. So every single
- 24:36Speaker 1: day is different. We have experts that come in, we
- 24:39Speaker 1: have demonstrations. Okay, so one we have we have a
- 24:47Speaker 1: pole dancer. One of the litigants is a pull dancer.
- 24:51Speaker 1: And you don't want to miss the episode with the dancer,
- 24:54Speaker 1: Like my mouth was, Paul, dancer is out there. You
- 24:59Speaker 1: don't what's well, You'll gonna just tell you, you know,
- 25:02Speaker 1: just watching your energy, You're amazing. I'm gonna compliment you
- 25:06Speaker 1: on that. And I'm just happy you decided to just
- 25:08Speaker 1: be you know, Rod the Wills in this interview, because
- 25:11Speaker 1: sometimes we can get stiff and just trying to deliver information.
- 25:14Speaker 1: And hopefully my story and my interview and this and
- 25:17Speaker 1: the way I was just walking you through the process
- 25:18Speaker 1: gave you a confidence zone. You are funny, you are,
- 25:22Speaker 1: you are smart, you are I'm going to watch the
- 25:25Speaker 1: show and I want to bring you back on in
- 25:27Speaker 1: the spring when we talk about you in a hundred
- 25:29Speaker 1: percent of the country. But again, I just want to
- 25:31Speaker 1: say congratulations on this show. And I'm tell your team
- 25:34Speaker 1: and I got almost a million followers on social media,
- 25:37Speaker 1: So tell your team to send me some banners so
- 25:39Speaker 1: I can post them on my social media. Your Texas girl,
- 25:42Speaker 1: I'm a Texas ball. I gotta support you no matter what. Girl. Okay,
- 25:45Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you so much, and good luck with
- 25:48Speaker 1: your show. All right, Judge one, appreciate you. Good luck
- 25:54Speaker 1: and if you want to see her here any of
- 25:56Speaker 1: my interviews on money making Conversations, please go to money
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- 28:40Speaker 1: with Rashaan McDonald. My next guest is Roxy Diaz. She
- 28:43Speaker 1: has interviewed everyone from Lady Gaga to former President Barack Obama.
- 28:47Speaker 1: As co host of Bats, one of six and Park
- 28:50Speaker 1: and co host and daily correspondent Going Entertainment Tonight. Roxy
- 28:54Speaker 1: has always been known for setting the tone for what's
- 28:57Speaker 1: happening in music and movies and entertainment. She's always on
- 29:00Speaker 1: the red carpet. She's Emmy Award winning TV personality, influencing
- 29:05Speaker 1: on the social media. Because I've been following that, we're
- 29:07Speaker 1: gonna talk about that again and host the new Fox
- 29:09Speaker 1: series Alter Ego. You've seen it's it's been heavily promoted
- 29:13Speaker 1: on TV all the time. Well, behind all that, who's
- 29:16Speaker 1: gonna be the show runner? As they said, it's gonna
- 29:18Speaker 1: be directing the people on stage and talking to the judges.
- 29:21Speaker 1: It's gonna be her, which is really a blessing because
- 29:23Speaker 1: I've known it for a long time. If you don't
- 29:25Speaker 1: know anything about Alter Ego, let me explain to you
- 29:27Speaker 1: what it is. Alter Ego is an all new, original
- 29:30Speaker 1: singing competition show whereas they say, lost dreams and second
- 29:34Speaker 1: chances are reignited when singers from all walks of life
- 29:37Speaker 1: become the stars. They've always wanted to be. However, these
- 29:41Speaker 1: contestants won't perform as themselves. That's the that's the beautiful catchup.
- 29:46Speaker 1: This is its animation. Rather, they are given they'll be
- 29:49Speaker 1: giving a chance to show how they would be seen
- 29:52Speaker 1: creating their own dream avatar alter ego is to reinvent
- 29:57Speaker 1: themselves and performed like they never before. Please welcome to
- 30:00Speaker 1: money making conversation the host and long time frame, a
- 30:03Speaker 1: long time mentor her. We've done it all radio, We've
- 30:06Speaker 1: done TV, We've done show a war shows together. I'm
- 30:10Speaker 1: even crying with this young lady. Please working the money
- 30:12Speaker 1: main conversation, Roxy d is how are you doing? Roxy?
- 30:16Speaker 1: It's so good to see you when you're fantastic. It
- 30:20Speaker 1: really has been a long career for us. I was just,
- 30:22Speaker 1: you know, I was, you know, rock, I was sitting
- 30:23Speaker 1: up to just think about me, and I was saying,
- 30:25Speaker 1: you know, youth is really scary and anything you do
- 30:29Speaker 1: because when you have success early, you know, you still
- 30:32Speaker 1: gotta get you the thirties, she gotta get you the
- 30:34Speaker 1: farties in the fifties. And you know, I've gotten passed
- 30:37Speaker 1: my thirties, farties and fifties. That's the journey you still
- 30:39Speaker 1: have to make but still you can have so much
- 30:42Speaker 1: success early and you're still having success now in your mind.
- 30:46Speaker 1: How does that work when people think about because your
- 30:49Speaker 1: success is in the public's eye. Yeah, it's scary. It's
- 30:54Speaker 1: it's scary, like you said, you know, to be completely
- 30:57Speaker 1: honest and and and forthcoming. Uh, I started wondering when
- 31:03Speaker 1: was I washed up? I was like, I've done so
- 31:05Speaker 1: much already, what else is there left for me to
- 31:08Speaker 1: do on a TV? Uh? And it was It was
- 31:11Speaker 1: a very scary moment. It was a very scary moment
- 31:13Speaker 1: cause I was like, I'm trying everything that I can
- 31:16Speaker 1: possibly think of to re event myself to stay relevant.
- 31:22Speaker 1: And this opportunity, thank god, came and opened the door
- 31:25Speaker 1: and now I manifested this. Uh. I had it on
- 31:28Speaker 1: my vision board to host a huge competition show like
- 31:31Speaker 1: like Alter Ego UM. And I'm so grateful to the
- 31:35Speaker 1: people at Fox and the producers who did not go
- 31:39Speaker 1: the traditional route for a post and chose this little
- 31:43Speaker 1: brown girl to all her dream and and host this
- 31:48Speaker 1: humongous opportunity UM show. And not only that, to come
- 31:53Speaker 1: off of behind Nick Cannon, who's you know, the mass
- 31:57Speaker 1: singer and and another huge show and another huge opportunity
- 32:00Speaker 1: that Fox gave you know, somebody that wasn't traditional as
- 32:05Speaker 1: the host. So I really, I really think them and
- 32:07Speaker 1: I applaud them for for opening the door and giving
- 32:11Speaker 1: me this opportunity. Robert, I bring it up because, like
- 32:13Speaker 1: I said, uh, it really is interesting when we look
- 32:16Speaker 1: at our lives, look at your lives. You know, last
- 32:18Speaker 1: time we saw each other physical I think was in
- 32:20Speaker 1: the Disney Dreamers. Yeah, there had to be like in twyfteen,
- 32:26Speaker 1: last time I saw you, and you're looking fantastic like
- 32:28Speaker 1: you're looking now. But again it's a journey. It's a
- 32:31Speaker 1: journey when we look at when you, like said, you're
- 32:34Speaker 1: a bank teller. You can go to work eight to five.
- 32:36Speaker 1: If your company is doing well, you know, you can
- 32:38Speaker 1: probably have a life, maybe even a pension, maybe maybe
- 32:42Speaker 1: even health benefits, and you can raise and live your life.
- 32:46Speaker 1: But when you're an entertainment when you're in it, entrepreneur,
- 32:49Speaker 1: that's what she is. She's an entrepreneur. She's self employed.
- 32:52Speaker 1: She had to go out there and she has people
- 32:54Speaker 1: who represented her. She has PR people, she has social
- 32:56Speaker 1: media people, she has management, she had agencies. How does
- 33:00Speaker 1: one put that in perspective roxy when you're talking about
- 33:04Speaker 1: your career, because it's your career and a lot of
- 33:06Speaker 1: people have to have a lot of ideas of where
- 33:08Speaker 1: they want to push it, how do you do you
- 33:10Speaker 1: push back? Or you said this is the direction I
- 33:12Speaker 1: want to go, or if you take people advice it
- 33:14Speaker 1: doesn't go that way, or you're disappointed it yourself, or
- 33:17Speaker 1: you say, hey, that's the way it just goes. You know,
- 33:20Speaker 1: I think I think you just said the key thing.
- 33:22Speaker 1: It's your career. So yeah, you can have a whole team,
- 33:25Speaker 1: but if you're not working with that team or for
- 33:28Speaker 1: that team, because they work for you, but you have
- 33:30Speaker 1: to work for them also. You have to come up
- 33:33Speaker 1: with ideas and creatives and when they make a meeting
- 33:36Speaker 1: and and set something up, you have to deliver and
- 33:40Speaker 1: show up in that room. It's it's part of your
- 33:42Speaker 1: job too. Um yeah, I have an agent, I have
- 33:45Speaker 1: an attorney, and I have all of that stuff. But
- 33:48Speaker 1: if I don't make money for them, then why would
- 33:50Speaker 1: they keep me as a client? You know? And vice versa.
- 33:53Speaker 1: So it's something very important to consider and think about
- 33:56Speaker 1: when you're going into this career and just as an entrepreneur,
- 33:59Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like you're constantly creating,
- 34:02Speaker 1: You're constantly reinventing and thinking, and they're just a branch
- 34:07Speaker 1: to your trunk, because you're the trunk of the tree.
- 34:10Speaker 1: But there are a branch of you. Um but you
- 34:12Speaker 1: still have to stay strong and continue striving and surviving
- 34:16Speaker 1: in this in this world. So um so, yeah, it's
- 34:21Speaker 1: it could be challenging, but I'm an amazing team and
- 34:23Speaker 1: we worked together. We come up with ideas you know,
- 34:27Speaker 1: I create, they make it bigger for me, bigger than
- 34:30Speaker 1: I would ever imagine. And and so it's a great
- 34:33Speaker 1: synergy that I have with my team. We're on Fox
- 34:36Speaker 1: Alter ego is big. It's big. It's huge, okay because
- 34:41Speaker 1: it comes with the imagination too, because I like said,
- 34:44Speaker 1: you know, short hasn't premiered yet. I'm just talking to
- 34:47Speaker 1: my listeners who in this world out there, my viewers
- 34:49Speaker 1: and all this in the world because I'm on syndicated radio,
- 34:52Speaker 1: I'm on podcasts, I'm on video and YouTube, so it's
- 34:55Speaker 1: so many different lanes I'm talking to. But how much
- 34:58Speaker 1: it can you reveal as the because we're seeing people
- 35:02Speaker 1: because I'm hearing I just read what the show is
- 35:03Speaker 1: about and so do you what do you see on stage?
- 35:07Speaker 1: Because we're gonna see the avatar performing what do you
- 35:09Speaker 1: see on stage? And then we're gonna talk about the judges.
- 35:12Speaker 1: You know what's awesome is that what I see and
- 35:15Speaker 1: what I know everybody else at home gets to see
- 35:18Speaker 1: and no, so you get to know the true people
- 35:21Speaker 1: and you get to learn the true stories behind the avatars,
- 35:25Speaker 1: the people that are controlling the avatars um or alter
- 35:28Speaker 1: egos I like to say our alter egos um. You
- 35:31Speaker 1: really get invested into the story. Are judges Will I Am,
- 35:35Speaker 1: nick La, Shay Atlantis, Morrisette and Grimes. They have no
- 35:38Speaker 1: clue whatsoever who these people are, so they're discovering each
- 35:42Speaker 1: and every week as the show progresses and goes on.
- 35:45Speaker 1: And neither of those our live studio audience as well,
- 35:48Speaker 1: they have no clue either. So it's it's a fun,
- 35:52Speaker 1: fun reveal when they do happen. Um. But you know,
- 35:56Speaker 1: it's all about second chances and and new opportunity for people.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Everybody's like, well, what's different from this singing competition show
- 36:03Speaker 1: than singing competition shows? The story? You know, you have
- 36:07Speaker 1: people uh like, let's just say Jennifer Hudson didn't fit
- 36:13Speaker 1: the American idol mold. Remember she didn't win because they
- 36:17Speaker 1: told her she didn't have a full package. Why did
- 36:19Speaker 1: she have a full package? You know? We have contestants
- 36:23Speaker 1: that have been told their entire life, some way, somehow
- 36:26Speaker 1: that they weren't the full package. So we're judging people
- 36:30Speaker 1: completely on their talent and their voice, and that's what matters.
- 36:36Speaker 1: The alter ego and and a lot of senses has
- 36:39Speaker 1: been liberating for a lot of our contestants as well,
- 36:41Speaker 1: because they may have a mental disability or a physical
- 36:45Speaker 1: disability that really prohibits them from being on stage. So
- 36:50Speaker 1: with this modernty i G technology, they're able to fulfill
- 36:54Speaker 1: their lifelong dream of being a musician or being a
- 36:58Speaker 1: singer and getting on that stage age through these alter egos.
- 37:02Speaker 1: It's quite liberating to not be judged through a disability
- 37:06Speaker 1: or or a gender and be binary or and just
- 37:10Speaker 1: be free, you know. Um. So that's what I love
- 37:12Speaker 1: about the show, and that's what the show, that's what
- 37:15Speaker 1: makes us different than this show. And we're literally stepping
- 37:17Speaker 1: into a new wave of how music is going to
- 37:19Speaker 1: be done and how music, how music artists are going
- 37:22Speaker 1: to be you know, portrayed as well. This is this
- 37:25Speaker 1: is next level technology, next level stuff. Seriously, I don't
- 37:29Speaker 1: know if the world is ready yet. Well, I think
- 37:31Speaker 1: that when you hit, you struck a nerve. When we
- 37:33Speaker 1: are positive there, when we were talking about the disability,
- 37:36Speaker 1: I never thought about that. That's not being promoted in
- 37:39Speaker 1: the commercials that you just you know, they're promoting the
- 37:41Speaker 1: fact that, you know, the whole alter ego, the avatar,
- 37:45Speaker 1: somebody doesn't look like they will normally look in real life.
- 37:48Speaker 1: But it immediately struck me. Somebody in the wheelchair and
- 37:51Speaker 1: I'm saying, somebody in the wheelchairs performing, or somebody on crutches,
- 37:54Speaker 1: or somebody you know, maybe have a leg a sprosthetic
- 37:58Speaker 1: leg and so like that didn't go out there, but
- 38:00Speaker 1: you wouldn't see that in the performance, and they may
- 38:03Speaker 1: be less aware of that from a standpoint of how
- 38:06Speaker 1: people might respond to them, and they can give knowing
- 38:09Speaker 1: that's not the person that they see. They see this
- 38:12Speaker 1: avatar or this alter ego, which is kind of brilliant
- 38:15Speaker 1: when I think about it. Well, we're saying you think
- 38:17Speaker 1: about it. I mean, definitely on the physical standpoint, but
- 38:21Speaker 1: also on the mental standpoint too, we have great fighters
- 38:24Speaker 1: and great artists. I would say Muhammad Ali and uh
- 38:28Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox just just for a perfect example that
- 38:31Speaker 1: when they're doing their art and their craft, you would
- 38:34Speaker 1: never ever know that they had some type of disability
- 38:37Speaker 1: into the background. Right. So we have the same situation
- 38:41Speaker 1: with some of our contestants where they have a mental
- 38:43Speaker 1: disability that may prohibit them to be in the industry,
- 38:49Speaker 1: but when they're on stage, you would never ever know
- 38:52Speaker 1: that they suffer from illness or or or This block
- 38:57Speaker 1: alter ego is definitely giving people opportunity to not be
- 39:02Speaker 1: judged in this judgmental world that we live in. That's powerful,
- 39:06Speaker 1: That's that's very very powerful. And then now that's your
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- 41:30Speaker 1: You you you You're in a good way. When I
- 41:32Speaker 1: say that, as far as on television Prime Time, this
- 41:36Speaker 1: is Fox. This is another level of millions of people
- 41:39Speaker 1: coming to your life. You know, how do you take
- 41:42Speaker 1: it all in? Because you you're very popular on social media.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Believe you have a million Instagram followers. You know, that's
- 41:47Speaker 1: one of the places that win. Because I did my
- 41:49Speaker 1: little research. We're gonna talk about this booty thing in
- 41:51Speaker 1: a minute. But let's stick with alter ego. Now, how
- 41:54Speaker 1: does that? How do you deal with that? You know,
- 41:57Speaker 1: because of the fact that it's so many athletes and
- 42:00Speaker 1: to put this or being traumatized by negative responses, are
- 42:03Speaker 1: being traumatized by the whole aspect of success. Like you
- 42:07Speaker 1: said earlier, You know, Rashan, I really was down in
- 42:09Speaker 1: the dumps about where I was at in my life
- 42:12Speaker 1: and then this opportunity that came to me and it
- 42:14Speaker 1: put me back out there in the forefront. How do
- 42:16Speaker 1: you deal with that? Because this is big for you,
- 42:19Speaker 1: but it also means that there are other opportunities you
- 42:21Speaker 1: have to be seeking to keep that emotional high. So
- 42:24Speaker 1: you're premiering on the twenty second and two separate episodes
- 42:28Speaker 1: back to back. Episode they take twelve of them talk
- 42:31Speaker 1: about this roller coaster ride leading up to you because
- 42:33Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of media, You're looking fantastic and
- 42:35Speaker 1: you're the one right now, you're the host. It's it's
- 42:38Speaker 1: been again. It's been a dream come true. Uh. It
- 42:41Speaker 1: literally was my vision board and it was my manifestation
- 42:45Speaker 1: and like dreamt of this show and I've dreamt of
- 42:48Speaker 1: this day. So I'm super excited for everybody to check
- 42:52Speaker 1: out Alter egoal Fox. Uh, it's just next level and fun.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Like I love every opportunity that I've had my career
- 43:01Speaker 1: to be fun. Um and this is by far the
- 43:04Speaker 1: most very long time. So um. Yeah, I don't know
- 43:09Speaker 1: what else to say about it because it's it's I
- 43:11Speaker 1: do I do because we kind of glossed over these
- 43:14Speaker 1: judges and you mentioned them, and I think I need
- 43:16Speaker 1: to go back and take Nick to Shade Grabs, where
- 43:18Speaker 1: I am alone is more set these Uh. You know, really,
- 43:23Speaker 1: we've just seen this industry where and I'm not saying
- 43:25Speaker 1: anything negative, where these people are touring professionals. These people
- 43:29Speaker 1: are successful in their fields and now they're on the
- 43:31Speaker 1: show like this together one time. How did you create
- 43:34Speaker 1: your relationships and how do you communicate with them? Because,
- 43:38Speaker 1: like you said, they're looking at animation as we're looking
- 43:41Speaker 1: at animation, and then they have to react to that.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Where do they put their judgment hats on? I guess
- 43:48Speaker 1: I should say, or can you reveal that everybody was
- 43:51Speaker 1: then everybody was authentically themselves I'll say that, and and
- 43:55Speaker 1: there was a mutual level of respect across the board,
- 44:00Speaker 1: know there. I'll say this Fox had the best of
- 44:03Speaker 1: the best when it came to this from from producers
- 44:07Speaker 1: to music director Adam black Stone. Who if you don't
- 44:11Speaker 1: know who Adam black Stone is, you just think of
- 44:14Speaker 1: you know, uh, Quest, Love Times Hud Okay. He's like
- 44:18Speaker 1: up there with Quests and Um, Will I Am and Grimes.
- 44:22Speaker 1: They live in this futuristic technology world. You know, this
- 44:27Speaker 1: is there house, this is their forefront whealehouse. Like sometimes
- 44:31Speaker 1: I didn't think I was intellectually capable of having conversations
- 44:35Speaker 1: with them, but this is what they live breathe by.
- 44:38Speaker 1: So there was no better way or better judges to
- 44:41Speaker 1: have on the panel than Will I Am. With his
- 44:43Speaker 1: musical background, he's iconic, the black Eyed Peas. He knows music,
- 44:47Speaker 1: he knows technology. And Grimes she's an innovator, She's into technology.
- 44:51Speaker 1: She's an amazing artist and producer as well. The young
- 44:54Speaker 1: people love her. She's a gamer. Um Atlantis Moore said, iconic.
- 45:00Speaker 1: She knows music, she knows vocals, she knows tones, she
- 45:03Speaker 1: knows sounds, she knows lyrics, she knows all of that.
- 45:06Speaker 1: And nick La Shay he knows what it is to
- 45:08Speaker 1: have a big production of big band, a big stage.
- 45:12Speaker 1: You know you're part of a boy band, your your
- 45:14Speaker 1: legendary in that sense as well being part of such
- 45:17Speaker 1: an iconic boy band and and working together with people
- 45:20Speaker 1: and technology so to be completely honest. For Sean, I
- 45:23Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a panel who didn't even
- 45:27Speaker 1: have to do a chemistry test because we all got
- 45:29Speaker 1: along and we all respected each other's space and opinion,
- 45:33Speaker 1: and there were different opinions a lot of times, but
- 45:36Speaker 1: it was still respectable. And you're gonna like to see
- 45:40Speaker 1: the interaction between our judges and and the humanity that
- 45:44Speaker 1: our alter egos were able to bring out of our
- 45:46Speaker 1: judges too. There's a lot of crying, not crying because
- 45:50Speaker 1: it's like a SOB story because more ask you because
- 45:53Speaker 1: because you know, Madd Singer is much more of a party,
- 45:57Speaker 1: you know, it's much more of a you know. But
- 45:59Speaker 1: this when I'm here in these great stories that you're telling,
- 46:02Speaker 1: and these reveals have to be like positively stunning. That's
- 46:06Speaker 1: where the crime comes from. That's where the uplift comes from.
- 46:09Speaker 1: That's where I'm gonna to tell you. I didn't know
- 46:11Speaker 1: anything about this show, Roxy until I reviewed you, because
- 46:14Speaker 1: they wouldn't send me a screen and I respect that,
- 46:17Speaker 1: but you have made me a fan of this show.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I want to see it. I want to see the backstory.
- 46:22Speaker 1: Send you something too. I don't be sure they send
- 46:24Speaker 1: you something. This is I'm gonna I'm gonna wait because
- 46:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the only reason I was just
- 46:30Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be Roseanne and I think I
- 46:32Speaker 1: run the world anyway. And so but in the hearing
- 46:34Speaker 1: your story, your pitch, your this interview, I want to
- 46:38Speaker 1: see the show because of the fact that it's something
- 46:41Speaker 1: about you know you you see the Paralympics. You know,
- 46:43Speaker 1: everybody wants to be treated normal. That's why you do
- 46:47Speaker 1: these differently. And to have a show that kind of
- 46:49Speaker 1: like levels the playing field of entertainment, I think it's
- 46:53Speaker 1: really special. I think it's really really unique and using
- 46:56Speaker 1: technology and having a show like alter ego. Like I
- 46:59Speaker 1: said earlier, it's almost brilliant. Socially, it's it kind of
- 47:02Speaker 1: borderlines on brilliant because of the fact that everybody has
- 47:06Speaker 1: this dream, even if you even though you know, everybody
- 47:09Speaker 1: dreams to be younger, everybody dreams to be sexier, everybody
- 47:12Speaker 1: dreams that they can sing in the shower and to
- 47:14Speaker 1: actually come on the show where they can take some
- 47:17Speaker 1: talents that God gave them, but they have not been
- 47:20Speaker 1: able to utilize and because of some mental of physical
- 47:24Speaker 1: uh that they different than from what we call normalcy.
- 47:28Speaker 1: It's pretty special and so but you were brought into
- 47:31Speaker 1: this and when did it really hit you what they
- 47:36Speaker 1: was giving you an opportunity to the host? When did
- 47:38Speaker 1: they really hit you? Uh? Hit me? The first time
- 47:41Speaker 1: I got on set, they hit me like I was like, Okay,
- 47:43Speaker 1: I know what I'm about to do. I know what's
- 47:45Speaker 1: to do. But our set is freaking next level right
- 47:50Speaker 1: right right right right, It's so big. I mean, like
- 47:55Speaker 1: you've been there with like the big set y you walk,
- 48:00Speaker 1: you get that that anxiety and it's like, oh, this
- 48:05Speaker 1: is next this is amazingly. You know when they put
- 48:08Speaker 1: money behest absolutely absolutely absolutely this big money behind this show,
- 48:15Speaker 1: Gazilian life here control. So like we already know, you know,
- 48:21Speaker 1: the Fox put the bag and when it came to
- 48:23Speaker 1: this show and it's it's so cool to watch it. Uh.
- 48:26Speaker 1: So that was the first time I got off set.
- 48:29Speaker 1: I knew that we were dealing with something that was
- 48:32Speaker 1: next level and really really special and something that America
- 48:36Speaker 1: is gonna love and families are gonna love because it's
- 48:38Speaker 1: something that's never been seen or done on TV. People
- 48:41Speaker 1: try to compare us to a different, different music show
- 48:45Speaker 1: or competition show. We're just not that, and you're gonna
- 48:47Speaker 1: see it. I see the people falling in love with
- 48:49Speaker 1: the with the performers for the first time. Really, the
- 48:52Speaker 1: backstory is beautiful. But then you do you still shot
- 48:55Speaker 1: this and tape this in this COVID time frame. You know,
- 48:58Speaker 1: I just did Jim and came up with stephen A,
- 49:01Speaker 1: and I had to get the COVID tests on the Friday.
- 49:04Speaker 1: I had to get the COVID test twenty four hours
- 49:06Speaker 1: before I came on set the next day, well, just
- 49:09Speaker 1: that Monday, so Sunday I had to get another COVID test.
- 49:11Speaker 1: How was it able to I wasn't working in that environment,
- 49:14Speaker 1: because we have to work in that environment. We have
- 49:16Speaker 1: to realize that unfortunately, COVID is going to be with us,
- 49:20Speaker 1: and if you don't take the shot, you may consider
- 49:22Speaker 1: taking a shot. I've been double vaccinated because I want
- 49:24Speaker 1: to be able to go through life somewhat normal. How
- 49:27Speaker 1: did the I was production handled with the COVID and
- 49:30Speaker 1: how did you feel about the whole process? Um you know,
- 49:33Speaker 1: I was one of those during the quarantine that I
- 49:35Speaker 1: didn't go nowhere. I was completely completely paranoid and stared
- 49:39Speaker 1: to go anywhere, even the grocery store. So Instacart was
- 49:41Speaker 1: my best friend. Um, I you know took my vaccination
- 49:47Speaker 1: and everything. UM. I'll say this, never have I felt
- 49:52Speaker 1: so comfortable and safe in a production, especially during these times.
- 49:56Speaker 1: Right now then doing the show, we were come poletely,
- 50:00Speaker 1: completely COVID aware and woke. I guess you said you
- 50:05Speaker 1: could say to where everybody was tested regularly. Um, there
- 50:10Speaker 1: was no slip up during our production. Fox was very
- 50:14Speaker 1: very strict when it come came to our safety and
- 50:17Speaker 1: the safety of our audience as well, and we were
- 50:20Speaker 1: very conscious about that wild taping. UM. So yes, they were, uh,
- 50:24Speaker 1: they were tests regularly, and nobody had a problem with it,
- 50:30Speaker 1: you know, because we're all trying to keep each other safe.
- 50:33Speaker 1: And not only that, but even during production, you know
- 50:35Speaker 1: those weeks that were you were taping, we quarantined when
- 50:38Speaker 1: we weren't on set, and we were mindful of everybody
- 50:41Speaker 1: because it's not just us and in our contestants, it's
- 50:45Speaker 1: you know, the stage handlers, it's your it's your stage producer.
- 50:49Speaker 1: It's your camera, guys. You know, you got to be
- 50:51Speaker 1: mindful of everybody. So you know, we we They played
- 50:55Speaker 1: it very very strict and and and kept us very
- 50:58Speaker 1: very safe, which I'm very great full for and then
- 51:01Speaker 1: there was no hiccups. We're friend. You know, I want
- 51:04Speaker 1: you to talk about this recipes here, but I want
- 51:07Speaker 1: this this show, I want to just focus on. I
- 51:09Speaker 1: want to bring you back if you have time to
- 51:10Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the cooking side, because I'm a
- 51:13Speaker 1: foodie nut, but I want to be respectful for this show.
- 51:16Speaker 1: This show I feel this very special alter ego which
- 51:19Speaker 1: Arizon Fox UH premier September twenty second and twenty two
- 51:23Speaker 1: separate episodes, NAPM Sentral, NAPM Eastern West Coast, a PM Central. UH.
- 51:29Speaker 1: There's a Wednesday and Thursday, and they have a fantastic
- 51:33Speaker 1: coast not a marvelous host, a fantastic host for a
- 51:36Speaker 1: long time. And you you please stay. It's twelve episodes,
- 51:40Speaker 1: and stay blessed, and please thank you for allowing me
- 51:43Speaker 1: to share your story with my fan base. And there's
- 51:45Speaker 1: a lot of them. There's a lot of them, by
- 51:46Speaker 1: the way, it's a lot of millions of them. And
- 51:49Speaker 1: I feel fortunate to be able to share your story.
- 51:51Speaker 1: This part of your story. I want to bring you
- 51:53Speaker 1: back and share the other story that the person that
- 51:55Speaker 1: I know outside the camera that makes you so special
- 51:59Speaker 1: rocks that you are special to me. By the way,
- 52:01Speaker 1: I really do Apprecator or Sean. I'll never forget all
- 52:04Speaker 1: the talks, and I never forget all the guy itence
- 52:06Speaker 1: and and you definitely were there for me and many
- 52:08Speaker 1: times with confusion. So I really appreciate the support and love,
- 52:11Speaker 1: and please please tell your audience alter Ego Syptember twenty second,
- 52:15Speaker 1: right after the mass in your own Fox. It's gonna
- 52:18Speaker 1: be huge, and you know, support us. Hey, there's not many,
- 52:21Speaker 1: there's not many of us leading things and watch you
- 52:25Speaker 1: know how it goes. We need those ratings, We need
- 52:27Speaker 1: those ratings, and I would be definitely asked the Fox
- 52:29Speaker 1: to send me some additional posters. And my news layer
- 52:32Speaker 1: goes out of two union thousand people every Friday, so
- 52:35Speaker 1: I'll be popping you in there and to send me
- 52:37Speaker 1: some videos. I'll dropped it in every week leading up
- 52:39Speaker 1: to that. But again, thank you Roxy for coming on
- 52:41Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. You are so special and I definitely
- 52:44Speaker 1: want to bring you back to talk about the other
- 52:46Speaker 1: side of roxy to cooker because you know I'm a
- 52:48Speaker 1: cooker too, so I gotta have that conversation. Thank you
- 52:50Speaker 1: for coming on the show. I appreciate you by thank you.
- 52:54Speaker 1: If you want to hear us see any interviews on
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