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From Dance to Energy Healing: The SHEVA Method with Fran Bailey · The Living Conversation

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  Foreign.
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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  today
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Dietz.
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  Welcome
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  everyone.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  here
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  with
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  our
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  guest,
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  Fran
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  Bailey.
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  Welcome,
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  Fran.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Fran
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  is
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  a
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  dancer
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  turned
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  healer
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  and
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  so
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  with
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  you
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  first
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  about
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  how
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  you
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  came
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  to
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  dance.
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  And
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  from
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  what
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  we've
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  gotten
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  from
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  your
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  website,
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  you
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  started
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  dancing
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  around
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  age
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  4.
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  What
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  was
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  so
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  special
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  about
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  dance?
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  Well,
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  to
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  communicate,
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  to
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  speak.
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  I
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  could
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  speak
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  through
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  my
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  body,
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  but
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  a
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  natural
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  thing
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  for
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  me.
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  I
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  would
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  hear
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  music
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  and
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  I
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  would
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  just.
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  My
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  body
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  would
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  take
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  over
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  and.
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  Oh
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  yeah,
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  it
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  just,
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  it
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  really
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  resonated
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  with
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  me.
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  Rhythms.
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  And
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  my
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  mom
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  danced
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  too,
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  but
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  she,
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  she,
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  her
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  parents
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  were
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  in
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  vaudeville
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  and
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  they
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  didn't
• 1:21
  want
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  her
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  to
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  become
• 1:22
  a
• 1:22
  dancer.
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  Oh,
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  musical
• 1:26
  theater
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  and
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  thing
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  in
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  my
• 1:27
  family.
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  My
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  dad
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  sang
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  too
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  and
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  so.
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  But
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  she
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  was
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  teaching.
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  She
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  had
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  the
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  ballet
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  teacher
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  come
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  to
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  the
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  house
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  and,
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  and
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  the
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  studio
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  was
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  in
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  the
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  barn,
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  so
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  she
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  put
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  up
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  a
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  bar,
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  you
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  know,
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  and,
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  and
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  was
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  very
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  rough
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  and
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  I
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  just
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  fell
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  in
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  love
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  with
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  it
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  and
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  I
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  just
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  started
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  training
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  and,
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  and
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  then
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  went
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  on
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  from
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  there,
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  but
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  stopped
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  for
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  a
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  while
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  and
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  then
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  came
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  back
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  to
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  it
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  and.
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  But
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  always
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  dance
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  is
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  always
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  my,
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  my
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  self
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  expression
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  because
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  to
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  go
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  dance
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  now.
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  I
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  dance
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  when
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  I
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  can.
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  Yeah.
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  But
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  I
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  choreograph
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  my
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  own
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  technique
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  which
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  is
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  for
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  the
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  body.
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  Right.
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  Of
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  energy,
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  healing
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  and
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  all
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  that
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  stuff.
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  So
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  we
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  can
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  talk
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  about
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  that.
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  You
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  also
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  got
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  a
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  Bachelor
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  of
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  Fine
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  Arts
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  in
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  dance.
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  Yes.
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  Where
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  was
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  that
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  from?
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  That
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  was
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  at
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  Ohio
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  University.
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  Ohio
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  State
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  first
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  and
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  then
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  decided
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  I
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  need
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  to
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  get
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  out
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  of
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  Ohio
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  and
• 2:27
  went
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  to
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  California
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  for
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  a
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  year
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  and
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  a
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  half
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  and
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  trained
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  out
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  there
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  at
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  age
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  19
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  and
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  learned
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  more
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  than
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  I
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  did
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  in
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  four
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  years
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  of
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  college.
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  Anyway,
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  went
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  back
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  and
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  decided
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  to
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  finish
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  in
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  choreography
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  and
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  education
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  and
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  so
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  I'm
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  glad
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  I
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  did.
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  That
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  was
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  a
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  good
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  school,
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  man.
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  So
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  you've
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  also
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  studied
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  with
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  Roslyn.
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  Yes,
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  and
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  worked
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  for
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  12
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  years
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  as
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  an
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  energy
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  healer
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  in
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  the
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  Alliance
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  Institute
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  for.
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  For
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  Integrative
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  Medicine
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  under
• 3:03
  Doctors
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  Steve
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  and
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  Sandy
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  Amolis.
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  Tell
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  us
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  about
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  that
• 3:07
  experience.
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  That
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  sounds
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  quite
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  interesting.
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  What
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  did
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  your
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  experience
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  as
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  a
• 3:10
  dancer
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  inform
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  you
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  as
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  to
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  this
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  new
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  direction?
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  Well,
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  two
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  things.
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  understood
• 3:22
  that
• 3:22
  everything
• 3:22
  is
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  energy
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  at
• 3:23
  a
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  very
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  young
• 3:24
  age
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  and
• 3:26
  that,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
• 3:29
  felt
• 3:30
  that
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  any
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  kind
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  of
• 3:31
  movement
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  could
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  heal.
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  And
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  grew
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  up
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  in
• 3:33
  a
• 3:33
  metaphysical
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  home
• 3:34
  as
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  a
• 3:35
  Christian
• 3:35
  Scientist,
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  so
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  also
• 3:36
  understood
• 3:37
  that
• 3:37
  end
• 3:37
  of
• 3:38
  philosophy
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  and.
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  Right.
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  So
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  if,
• 3:42
  if
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  Consider
• 3:43
  everything
• 3:43
  as
• 3:44
  movement.
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  That's
• 3:46
  where
• 3:46
  Steve
• 3:46
  Amwell's.
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  I
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  taught
• 3:48
  his
• 3:48
  daughter,
• 3:49
  and
• 3:49
  he
• 3:49
  said
• 3:49
  you
• 3:50
  could
• 3:50
  see
• 3:50
  energy.
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  So
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  actually,
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  I've
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  been
• 3:52
  doing
• 3:52
  it
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  all
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  my
• 3:52
  life.
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  I
• 3:53
  just
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  didn't
• 3:53
  know,
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  you
• 3:55
  know,
• 3:55
  when
• 3:55
  I'd
• 3:55
  be
• 3:55
  teaching,
• 3:56
  I'd
• 3:56
  be
• 3:56
  running
• 3:57
  energy
• 3:57
  on
• 3:57
  their
• 3:57
  body
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  or,
• 3:58
  you
• 3:59
  know.
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  You
• 4:01
  mean
• 4:01
  everybody
• 4:02
  doesn't
• 4:02
  see
• 4:02
  energy
• 4:05
  but
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  do?
• 4:06
  I.
• 4:07
  I
• 4:07
  feel.
• 4:08
  I
• 4:09
  feel.
• 4:09
  No,
• 4:09
  hear,
• 4:10
  see,
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  know,
• 4:11
  those
• 4:13
  four
• 4:13
  things.
• 4:14
  So
• 4:15
  actually.
• 4:16
  So
• 4:16
  Steve
• 4:16
  said,
• 4:17
  you
• 4:17
  need
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  start
• 4:17
  training,
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  want
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  to
• 4:18
  work
• 4:19
  for
• 4:19
  my
• 4:20
  Alliance
• 4:21
  Institute,
• 4:21
  because
• 4:22
  I'm
• 4:22
  an
• 4:22
  MD
• 4:23
  Acupuncturist,
• 4:23
  and
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  want
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  do
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  healing
• 4:25
  center.
• 4:25
  And
• 4:26
  so
• 4:26
  I
• 4:26
  started
• 4:26
  studying
• 4:27
  with
• 4:27
  his
• 4:27
  healer,
• 4:28
  who
• 4:28
  was
• 4:28
  Rosalynn.
• 4:29
  And
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  looked
• 4:31
  at
• 4:31
  her
• 4:31
  and,
• 4:31
  you
• 4:32
  know,
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  did
• 4:32
  all
• 4:32
  this
• 4:32
  training
• 4:33
  with
• 4:33
  her,
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  went,
• 4:34
  oh,
• 4:34
  my
• 4:34
  God,
• 4:35
  I
• 4:35
  think
• 4:36
  I've
• 4:36
  been
• 4:36
  here
• 4:36
  before.
• 4:38
  Okay.
• 4:39
  So,
• 4:39
  you
• 4:39
  know,
• 4:40
  the.
• 4:40
  The
• 4:40
  physics,
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  science
• 4:41
  and
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  arts
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  all
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  concept
• 4:45
  of
• 4:46
  healing
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  a
• 4:48
  motivation
• 4:48
  of
• 4:48
  creation
• 4:49
  to
• 4:50
  heal
• 4:50
  is
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  same
• 4:52
  thing.
• 4:52
  So
• 4:53
  it
• 4:54
  was
• 4:54
  really
• 4:54
  easy
• 4:55
  for
• 4:55
  me
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  actually
• 4:55
  transfer
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  energy
• 4:57
  through
• 4:57
  my
• 4:57
  feet
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  my
• 4:58
  hands.
• 4:59
  And
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  was
• 4:59
  just
• 4:59
  like
• 4:59
  a
• 5:00
  natural.
• 5:01
  Natural
• 5:04
  technique
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  I,
• 5:06
  you
• 5:06
  know,
• 5:06
  was
• 5:06
  a
• 5:07
  skill
• 5:07
  that
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  learned.
• 5:08
  So
• 5:08
  with
• 5:08
  the
• 5:09
  intuition
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  clairvoyance
• 5:12
  that
• 5:12
  had
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  come
• 5:12
  along
• 5:12
  with
• 5:13
  it,
• 5:14
  that
• 5:14
  certainly
• 5:16
  woke
• 5:16
  up
• 5:16
  in
• 5:16
  me
• 5:17
  and
• 5:18
  decided
• 5:18
  to.
• 5:19
  Okay,
• 5:19
  I
• 5:20
  think
• 5:20
  I.
• 5:20
  I
• 5:21
  could.
• 5:21
  Think
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  could
• 5:21
  do
• 5:21
  both,
• 5:22
  but
• 5:22
  I'm
• 5:22
  not
• 5:22
  sure.
• 5:23
  Can
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  dance?
• 5:23
  Can
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  heal?
• 5:25
  Well,
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  the
• 5:27
  question
• 5:27
  comes,
• 5:29
  is
• 5:29
  there
• 5:29
  anybody
• 5:30
  who
• 5:30
  isn't
• 5:30
  dancing
• 5:32
  in
• 5:32
  their
• 5:32
  own
• 5:32
  way?
• 5:33
  Right,
• 5:34
  exactly.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:35
  yet
• 5:36
  certain
• 5:38
  energy,
• 5:38
  movement
• 5:39
  is
• 5:40
  more,
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  would
• 5:42
  imagine,
• 5:44
  conducive
• 5:45
  for
• 5:46
  healing.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:50
  how
• 5:50
  do
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  even
• 5:51
  say,
• 5:51
  configure
• 5:52
  this?
• 5:52
  Good
• 5:52
  spirits.
• 5:56
  So.
• 5:56
  Yeah.
• 5:57
  Yeah,
• 5:57
  Adam.
• 5:58
  Well,
• 5:59
  it's
• 5:59
  funny
• 5:59
  that
• 6:00
  so
• 6:00
  many
• 6:00
  things
• 6:01
  come
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  mind,
• 6:01
  but
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  last
• 6:02
  thing
• 6:02
  you
• 6:03
  said
• 6:04
  reminds
• 6:04
  me
• 6:04
  of
• 6:04
  something
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  once
• 6:05
  heard
• 6:05
  totally
• 6:06
  off
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  wall
• 6:06
  from
• 6:07
  John
• 6:07
  Travolta,
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  all
• 6:08
  people.
• 6:08
  And
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  said,
• 6:10
  isn't
• 6:10
  everyone
• 6:11
  dancing?
• 6:11
  And
• 6:12
  what
• 6:12
  it
• 6:12
  reminds
• 6:12
  me
• 6:12
  of
• 6:13
  is
• 6:13
  that
• 6:13
  he
• 6:14
  said,
• 6:14
  in
• 6:14
  any
• 6:14
  character,
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  first
• 6:15
  thing
• 6:15
  you
• 6:16
  had
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  get
• 6:16
  down
• 6:16
  was
• 6:16
  the
• 6:17
  walk.
• 6:18
  So
• 6:19
  it
• 6:19
  reminds
• 6:19
  me
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  sense
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  we
• 6:20
  all
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  our
• 6:20
  own
• 6:21
  way
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  movement,
• 6:22
  and
• 6:23
  it's
• 6:23
  central
• 6:24
  to
• 6:24
  who
• 6:24
  we
• 6:24
  are.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:26
  often.
• 6:26
  Often.
• 6:27
  Fran,
• 6:27
  would
• 6:27
  you
• 6:28
  agree
• 6:28
  that
• 6:28
  often
• 6:29
  we
• 6:29
  come
• 6:30
  across
• 6:30
  people
• 6:30
  or
• 6:31
  ourselves
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  are
• 6:31
  almost
• 6:32
  disconnected
• 6:32
  from
• 6:32
  that?
• 6:33
  Right,
• 6:34
  Absolutely.
• 6:35
  And
• 6:36
  so.
• 6:36
  So
• 6:36
  as
• 6:37
  a
• 6:37
  healer,
• 6:37
  how
• 6:37
  do
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  help
• 6:38
  orient
• 6:38
  people
• 6:39
  back
• 6:39
  into
• 6:39
  their
• 6:39
  bodies,
• 6:40
  basically?
• 6:41
  Good
• 6:42
  question.
• 6:43
  Well,
• 6:43
  first
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  all,
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  have
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  see
• 6:44
  how
• 6:44
  far
• 6:44
  out
• 6:45
  they
• 6:45
  are.
• 6:46
  Right?
• 6:47
  Because,
• 6:47
  you
• 6:48
  know,
• 6:49
  if
• 6:49
  they're
• 6:49
  a
• 6:50
  head
• 6:50
  type,
• 6:51
  they
• 6:51
  live
• 6:52
  up
• 6:52
  in
• 6:52
  their
• 6:52
  head.
• 6:52
  They're
• 6:53
  just.
• 6:53
  Their
• 6:53
  bodies
• 6:53
  are
• 6:54
  always
• 6:54
  up
• 6:54
  here.
• 6:54
  They're
• 6:55
  just
• 6:55
  up
• 6:55
  here.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  have
• 6:56
  to
• 6:57
  not
• 6:57
  ask
• 6:57
  them
• 6:58
  what
• 6:58
  they
• 6:59
  feel,
• 7:00
  but
• 7:00
  ask
• 7:01
  them
• 7:01
  what
• 7:01
  they
• 7:01
  think
• 7:01
  they
• 7:02
  feel.
• 7:03
  So
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  kind
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  gets
• 7:05
  them.
• 7:05
  Oh,
• 7:05
  I
• 7:06
  have
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  kind
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  go
• 7:06
  in
• 7:07
  and.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:08
  figure
• 7:08
  out
• 7:08
  what
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  think
• 7:09
  I'm
• 7:09
  feeling.
• 7:10
  Yeah,
• 7:10
  that's
• 7:10
  an
• 7:10
  important
• 7:11
  distinction.
• 7:12
  Really
• 7:12
  important.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:13
  that's
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  Enneagram.
• 7:14
  As
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  studied
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  Enneagram
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  figured
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  all
• 7:16
  out
• 7:16
  about
• 7:17
  how
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  energy
• 7:18
  works
• 7:18
  and
• 7:19
  how
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  personality
• 7:20
  fits
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  how
• 7:20
  it
• 7:21
  all
• 7:21
  kind
• 7:21
  of
• 7:21
  comes
• 7:21
  together,
• 7:25
  it's
• 7:25
  interesting.
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  worked
• 7:26
  on
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  lot
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  athletes
• 7:26
  and
• 7:27
  dancers.
• 7:27
  You
• 7:27
  know,
• 7:28
  immediately
• 7:29
  they're.
• 7:29
  They're
• 7:30
  in
• 7:30
  their
• 7:30
  body,
• 7:31
  but
• 7:31
  their
• 7:32
  spiritual
• 7:33
  connection
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  very
• 7:35
  different.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  have
• 7:36
  to
• 7:36
  work
• 7:36
  at
• 7:36
  a
• 7:37
  different
• 7:37
  level
• 7:38
  of
• 7:40
  consciousness
• 7:41
  for
• 7:41
  them.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  mean,
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  football
• 7:43
  player
• 7:43
  can
• 7:43
  just
• 7:43
  get
• 7:44
  stuff
• 7:44
  like
• 7:44
  this.
• 7:45
  Right.
• 7:45
  Right.
• 7:46
  But
• 7:46
  if
• 7:46
  he's
• 7:46
  dealing
• 7:47
  with
• 7:47
  an
• 7:47
  injury
• 7:48
  and
• 7:48
  his
• 7:48
  career
• 7:49
  is
• 7:49
  in
• 7:49
  trouble,
• 7:50
  which
• 7:50
  I
• 7:51
  worked
• 7:51
  with
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  lot,
• 7:52
  that's
• 7:52
  a
• 7:53
  whole
• 7:53
  emotional
• 7:53
  component.
• 7:55
  Right.
• 7:55
  Which
• 7:56
  is
• 7:57
  go
• 7:57
  ahead.
• 7:58
  Which
• 7:58
  in
• 7:58
  turn
• 7:59
  is.
• 7:59
  Is
• 8:00
  where
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  angle
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  need
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  go.
• 8:01
  So
• 8:02
  that's
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  cue.
• 8:03
  Right.
• 8:04
  Is
• 8:04
  this
• 8:04
  similar
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  what's
• 8:05
  done
• 8:05
  in
• 8:05
  the
• 8:06
  Alexander
• 8:06
  technique.
• 8:09
  Of
• 8:09
  sorts?
• 8:10
  Yes.
• 8:10
  I've
• 8:11
  done
• 8:11
  Alexander
• 8:12
  technique.
• 8:13
  It
• 8:13
  depends.
• 8:16
  So
• 8:16
  when
• 8:16
  I
• 8:16
  work
• 8:17
  with
• 8:17
  someone,
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  have
• 8:18
  them
• 8:18
  sit
• 8:19
  away
• 8:19
  from
• 8:19
  me
• 8:19
  so
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  can
• 8:20
  see
• 8:20
  their
• 8:20
  energy,
• 8:21
  or
• 8:21
  I'll
• 8:21
  do
• 8:21
  the
• 8:22
  zoom
• 8:22
  just
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  get
• 8:23
  their.
• 8:24
  The
• 8:25
  whole
• 8:25
  picture.
• 8:27
  And
• 8:27
  what
• 8:27
  I
• 8:28
  can
• 8:28
  see
• 8:28
  is
• 8:28
  where
• 8:28
  the
• 8:29
  resistance
• 8:29
  is,
• 8:32
  whether
• 8:32
  emotional,
• 8:33
  physical,
• 8:33
  spiritual,
• 8:34
  or.
• 8:35
  And
• 8:36
  how
• 8:36
  does
• 8:36
  that
• 8:37
  show
• 8:37
  up?
• 8:37
  Is
• 8:37
  that
• 8:38
  just
• 8:39
  an
• 8:39
  intuition
• 8:39
  that
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  have
• 8:40
  or
• 8:41
  some
• 8:41
  limitation
• 8:42
  in
• 8:42
  bodily
• 8:42
  movement?
• 8:46
  It
• 8:46
  kind
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  happens
• 8:47
  simultaneously.
• 8:48
  Oh,
• 8:48
  good.
• 8:49
  Oh,
• 8:49
  yeah.
• 8:49
  So
• 8:50
  if
• 8:51
  I
• 8:51
  close
• 8:51
  my
• 8:51
  eyes
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  they're
• 8:52
  in
• 8:52
  front
• 8:52
  of
• 8:53
  me,
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  can
• 8:53
  sort
• 8:53
  of
• 8:54
  get
• 8:54
  this
• 8:54
  really
• 8:55
  quick
• 8:55
  message,
• 8:57
  or
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  can
• 8:58
  still
• 8:58
  sometimes
• 8:59
  have
• 8:59
  my
• 8:59
  eyes
• 9:00
  open
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  can
• 9:00
  just
• 9:00
  see
• 9:01
  it,
• 9:01
  see
• 9:01
  where
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  cords
• 9:02
  are,
• 9:02
  see
• 9:02
  where
• 9:03
  the
• 9:04
  resistance
• 9:04
  is
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  what
• 9:05
  might
• 9:05
  be
• 9:05
  pulling
• 9:06
  them
• 9:06
  away
• 9:07
  from
• 9:07
  being
• 9:08
  here
• 9:08
  in
• 9:08
  their
• 9:09
  heart
• 9:09
  or
• 9:09
  being
• 9:09
  in
• 9:10
  their
• 9:10
  body
• 9:10
  or
• 9:11
  where
• 9:11
  the
• 9:12
  disconnection
• 9:12
  is.
• 9:13
  And
• 9:14
  when
• 9:14
  you're
• 9:14
  talking
• 9:14
  about
• 9:15
  chords,
• 9:15
  I
• 9:15
  notice
• 9:16
  you've
• 9:16
  also
• 9:16
  studied
• 9:17
  with
• 9:18
  John
• 9:18
  Friedlander
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  Gloria
• 9:19
  Hemsler,
• 9:20
  I'm
• 9:21
  sure.
• 9:21
  Yeah.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  took
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  look
• 9:23
  at
• 9:23
  their.
• 9:24
  At
• 9:24
  their
• 9:24
  books
• 9:24
  this
• 9:24
  morning,
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  I'm
• 9:26
  aware
• 9:27
  of
• 9:28
  these.
• 9:28
  These
• 9:29
  ideas
• 9:29
  about
• 9:29
  energy
• 9:30
  chords,
• 9:31
  which
• 9:32
  explain
• 9:33
  to
• 9:33
  us
• 9:33
  about
• 9:33
  what
• 9:33
  that
• 9:33
  is,
• 9:34
  please.
• 9:35
  Yeah.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:35
  I
• 9:36
  trained
• 9:36
  with
• 9:36
  them
• 9:36
  for
• 9:36
  many,
• 9:37
  many
• 9:37
  years,
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  that
• 9:38
  really
• 9:38
  woke
• 9:38
  up
• 9:38
  the
• 9:40
  clairvoyant.
• 9:40
  Pardon
• 9:41
  me.
• 9:42
  So.
• 9:46
  So
• 9:47
  it's
• 9:47
  just
• 9:47
  writing
• 9:47
  about
• 9:47
  this.
• 9:48
  Let's.
• 9:48
  Let's
• 9:49
  say,
• 9:49
  for
• 9:49
  instance,
• 9:51
  you
• 9:52
  are
• 9:52
  attached
• 9:53
  to
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  certain
• 9:54
  level
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  fear
• 9:56
  in.
• 9:56
  In
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  memory.
• 9:58
  Okay.
• 10:00
  So
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  memory
• 10:01
  has
• 10:01
  a
• 10:02
  pattern.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:03
  that
• 10:03
  pattern,
• 10:03
  thought,
• 10:04
  sort
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  runs
• 10:06
  around
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  your
• 10:07
  field
• 10:07
  or
• 10:07
  in
• 10:08
  your
• 10:08
  body,
• 10:08
  because
• 10:09
  it's
• 10:09
  a
• 10:10
  memory.
• 10:12
  If
• 10:12
  you
• 10:13
  decide
• 10:14
  that
• 10:14
  you
• 10:15
  need
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  shift
• 10:15
  that
• 10:16
  pattern
• 10:16
  and
• 10:17
  make
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  difference,
• 10:18
  look
• 10:18
  at
• 10:19
  what
• 10:19
  it
• 10:19
  is,
• 10:20
  then
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  will
• 10:21
  ask
• 10:21
  someone
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  meditate
• 10:23
  and
• 10:24
  see
• 10:24
  where
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  pattern
• 10:26
  is.
• 10:27
  Like,
• 10:27
  you
• 10:27
  can
• 10:28
  see
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  in
• 10:28
  a.
• 10:28
  In
• 10:29
  a
• 10:29
  form
• 10:29
  of
• 10:30
  energy.
• 10:30
  It
• 10:30
  may
• 10:30
  be
• 10:30
  in
• 10:31
  front
• 10:31
  of
• 10:31
  you,
• 10:31
  maybe
• 10:32
  behind
• 10:32
  you,
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  maybe
• 10:34
  right
• 10:34
  near
• 10:34
  you.
• 10:34
  But
• 10:35
  if
• 10:35
  it's
• 10:35
  repeated
• 10:36
  three
• 10:36
  times,
• 10:38
  then
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  is
• 10:39
  the
• 10:40
  cue
• 10:40
  again,
• 10:42
  that.
• 10:42
  That
• 10:42
  is
• 10:42
  the
• 10:43
  bulk
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  energy,
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  where
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  thought
• 10:46
  lives.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  this
• 10:48
  is
• 10:48
  not
• 10:48
  just
• 10:49
  locating
• 10:49
  that
• 10:50
  memory,
• 10:51
  only
• 10:51
  in
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  head.
• 10:52
  Right.
• 10:53
  Noticing
• 10:54
  how
• 10:54
  it's
• 10:54
  stored
• 10:55
  in
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  energy
• 10:56
  field.
• 10:56
  Is
• 10:56
  that
• 10:56
  what
• 10:57
  you're
• 10:57
  saying?
• 10:57
  Correct,
• 10:58
  Correct.
• 10:59
  So
• 10:59
  are
• 10:59
  you
• 10:59
  familiar
• 11:00
  with
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  work
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  Eugene
• 11:01
  Gendlin?
• 11:02
  No.
• 11:03
  The
• 11:03
  felt.
• 11:04
  He
• 11:04
  talks
• 11:04
  about
• 11:04
  this
• 11:05
  same
• 11:05
  sort
• 11:05
  of
• 11:05
  thing
• 11:06
  as
• 11:06
  what's
• 11:07
  called
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  felt
• 11:08
  sense.
• 11:09
  Felt
• 11:09
  sense,
• 11:10
  yeah.
• 11:10
  And
• 11:10
  when
• 11:10
  I'm
• 11:11
  working
• 11:11
  with
• 11:11
  my
• 11:11
  students
• 11:12
  in
• 11:12
  public
• 11:12
  speaking,
• 11:13
  one
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  things
• 11:14
  that
• 11:14
  they
• 11:14
  have
• 11:15
  to
• 11:15
  deal
• 11:15
  with
• 11:15
  is
• 11:15
  anxiety.
• 11:16
  And
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  said,
• 11:17
  where
• 11:17
  is
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  anxiety
• 11:18
  in
• 11:18
  your
• 11:18
  body?
• 11:19
  Can
• 11:19
  you
• 11:20
  make
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  ball
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  it?
• 11:21
  And
• 11:21
  then
• 11:22
  imagine
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  have
• 11:25
  roots
• 11:26
  coming
• 11:26
  out
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  your
• 11:26
  feet
• 11:27
  going
• 11:27
  into
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  ground,
• 11:28
  and
• 11:28
  then
• 11:28
  can
• 11:28
  you
• 11:29
  move
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  ball
• 11:29
  of
• 11:29
  energy
• 11:30
  down
• 11:30
  into
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  ground?
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  they
• 11:31
  say,
• 11:31
  yes.
• 11:32
  And
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  said,
• 11:32
  is
• 11:32
  there
• 11:32
  any
• 11:32
  left
• 11:33
  in
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  body?
• 11:33
  And
• 11:34
  they
• 11:34
  say,
• 11:35
  no,
• 11:35
  actually,
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  said,
• 11:36
  well,
• 11:36
  you
• 11:36
  can
• 11:36
  have
• 11:37
  it
• 11:37
  back
• 11:37
  if
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  want,
• 11:38
  right?
• 11:39
  No,
• 11:39
  no,
• 11:40
  not
• 11:40
  necessarily.
• 11:41
  But
• 11:41
  I'm
• 11:42
  sensing
• 11:42
  that
• 11:43
  this
• 11:43
  is
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  lot
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  what
• 11:43
  you
• 11:44
  do
• 11:44
  also.
• 11:44
  Is
• 11:44
  that
• 11:45
  right?
• 11:45
  Exactly,
• 11:46
  yes.
• 11:47
  Yeah.
• 11:48
  So
• 11:48
  you'll
• 11:49
  get
• 11:49
  an
• 11:49
  intuitive
• 11:49
  sense
• 11:50
  about,
• 11:52
  do
• 11:52
  people
• 11:52
  describe
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  memory
• 11:53
  to
• 11:54
  you
• 11:54
  or
• 11:55
  how
• 11:56
  do
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  look
• 11:56
  into
• 11:57
  it?
• 11:59
  Well,
• 11:59
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  as
• 12:00
  a
• 12:00
  healer,
• 12:01
  it's
• 12:01
  really
• 12:01
  important
• 12:03
  that
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  get
• 12:06
  permission.
• 12:06
  Number
• 12:07
  one.
• 12:07
  Oh,
• 12:07
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• 12:08
  Number
• 12:08
  two,
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  information
• 12:11
  is
• 12:11
  suggested
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  them.
• 12:13
  If
• 12:13
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• 12:14
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• 12:14
  do
• 12:14
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• 12:14
  work,
• 12:15
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• 12:15
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• 12:15
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• 12:16
  They've
• 12:16
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• 12:16
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• 12:16
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• 12:17
  the
• 12:17
  work
• 12:17
  in
• 12:17
  order
• 12:17
  for
• 12:17
  it
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  stick.
• 12:19
  I've
• 12:19
  had.
• 12:19
  I've
• 12:19
  had
• 12:19
  that
• 12:20
  many
• 12:20
  times
• 12:20
  where
• 12:21
  I've
• 12:21
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• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  work
• 12:22
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• 12:22
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• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  work
• 12:23
  and
• 12:23
  nothing
• 12:23
  changes.
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  said,
• 12:24
  bingo,
• 12:26
  you
• 12:27
  know,
• 12:27
  there
• 12:27
  it
• 12:27
  is.
• 12:27
  Well,
• 12:28
  and
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  would
• 12:28
  imagine
• 12:28
  that
• 12:29
  there's
• 12:29
  also,
• 12:31
  in
• 12:32
  my
• 12:32
  students,
• 12:32
  I
• 12:33
  will
• 12:33
  say,
• 12:33
  okay,
• 12:33
  there
• 12:34
  might
• 12:34
  be
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  little
• 12:34
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• 12:34
  of
• 12:35
  anxiety
• 12:35
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• 12:35
  there,
• 12:35
  and
• 12:36
  it's
• 12:36
  just
• 12:36
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• 12:36
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• 12:36
  take
• 12:36
  care
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  you.
• 12:37
  But
• 12:37
  there's
• 12:38
  all.
• 12:38
  Might
• 12:38
  also
• 12:38
  might
• 12:39
  be
• 12:39
  some
• 12:39
  investment,
• 12:41
  personal
• 12:41
  investment.
• 12:42
  Oh,
• 12:42
  if
• 12:42
  I
• 12:43
  don't
• 12:43
  have
• 12:43
  this,
• 12:44
  then
• 12:44
  I
• 12:45
  won't
• 12:45
  be
• 12:45
  okay.
• 12:46
  Is
• 12:46
  that.
• 12:47
  So
• 12:47
  that's
• 12:47
  kind
• 12:48
  of
• 12:48
  what
• 12:48
  you're
• 12:48
  talking
• 12:48
  about,
• 12:49
  correct?
• 12:50
  Yeah,
• 12:50
  correct.
• 12:52
  So
• 12:52
  what
• 12:52
  do
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  do
• 12:53
  if
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  don't
• 12:53
  have
• 12:53
  that?
• 12:54
  You
• 12:54
  actually
• 12:54
  have
• 12:54
  more
• 12:55
  space
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  experience
• 12:56
  something
• 12:57
  else.
• 12:57
  So
• 12:58
  that's
• 12:58
  how
• 12:58
  I
• 12:59
  Look
• 12:59
  at
• 12:59
  it.
• 12:59
  It's
• 12:59
  like
• 12:59
  you're
• 12:59
  giving
• 13:00
  yourself
• 13:00
  more
• 13:00
  space
• 13:01
  to
• 13:02
  possibly
• 13:04
  love
• 13:04
  yourself
• 13:05
  more.
• 13:06
  Right.
• 13:07
  You
• 13:07
  know,
• 13:07
  you,
• 13:08
  you
• 13:09
  reinforce
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  positiveness
• 13:10
  of
• 13:11
  the
• 13:12
  emptiness
• 13:12
  or
• 13:12
  whatever
• 13:13
  they're
• 13:13
  feeling.
• 13:14
  Well,
• 13:15
  we
• 13:15
  have
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  take
• 13:15
  a
• 13:16
  little
• 13:16
  space
• 13:16
  right
• 13:16
  now.
• 13:16
  I'm
• 13:17
  Anthony
• 13:17
  Wright
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  am
• 13:18
  your
• 13:19
  co
• 13:19
  host
• 13:19
  today
• 13:19
  on
• 13:19
  the
• 13:20
  Living
• 13:20
  Conversation
• 13:20
  with
• 13:22
  Adam
• 13:22
  Dietz.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:23
  our
• 13:24
  guest
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  Fran
• 13:24
  Bailey.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:26
  how
• 13:26
  can
• 13:26
  people
• 13:26
  contact
• 13:27
  your
• 13:27
  friend?
• 13:28
  They
• 13:29
  can
• 13:29
  contact
• 13:29
  me
• 13:30
  through
• 13:30
  my
• 13:30
  website,
• 13:31
  Fran
• 13:31
  baylorhealer.com
• 13:34
  and
• 13:34
  that's
• 13:34
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• 13:35
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• 13:35
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• 13:35
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• 13:35
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• 13:36
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• 13:37
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• 13:38
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• 13:38
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• 13:39
  word.
• 13:39
  Yes.
• 13:40
  Fran
• 13:40
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• 13:41
  Healer.com.
• 13:42
  Okay,
• 13:43
  great.
• 13:44
  Yeah,
• 13:45
  that's.
• 13:46
  Or
• 13:46
  my
• 13:47
  email.
• 13:47
  Fran
• 13:48
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• 13:49
  gmail.com
• 13:50
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• 13:50
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• 13:51
  email
• 13:51
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• 13:52
  That'S
• 13:52
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• 13:52
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• 13:54
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• 13:54
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• 13:55
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• 13:55
  Great.
• 13:56
  All
• 13:56
  right,
• 13:57
  we're
• 13:57
  going
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  take
• 13:57
  a
• 13:57
  short
• 13:57
  break
• 13:57
  and
• 13:58
  be
• 13:58
  right
• 13:58
  back.
• 13:58
  So
• 13:58
  stay
• 13:59
  tuned.
• 14:15
  I'm
• 14:15
  Anthony
• 14:16
  Wright
• 14:16
  and
• 14:16
  I'm
• 14:17
  your
• 14:17
  co
• 14:17
  host
• 14:17
  today
• 14:18
  with
• 14:18
  Adam
• 14:19
  Dietz.
• 14:19
  Welcome.
• 14:20
  We
• 14:20
  are
• 14:20
  here
• 14:21
  on
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  Living
• 14:21
  Conversation
• 14:22
  with
• 14:22
  our
• 14:22
  guest
• 14:23
  Fran
• 14:23
  Bailey.
• 14:24
  And
• 14:24
  Fran,
• 14:24
  before
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  break,
• 14:25
  you
• 14:25
  were
• 14:25
  talking
• 14:26
  about
• 14:27
  working
• 14:27
  with
• 14:28
  clients
• 14:30
  and
• 14:30
  their
• 14:30
  energy
• 14:30
  field.
• 14:31
  And
• 14:33
  how
• 14:33
  do
• 14:34
  people
• 14:34
  come
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  you
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  explain
• 14:36
  to
• 14:37
  us
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  bit
• 14:37
  about
• 14:38
  what
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  Shiva
• 14:39
  method
• 14:40
  is?
• 14:42
  Yeah,
• 14:42
  well,
• 14:43
  it's,
• 14:43
  it's
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  Shiva
• 14:46
  method
• 14:46
  I
• 14:46
  designed
• 14:47
  in
• 14:47
  2002
• 14:49
  and
• 14:50
  the
• 14:51
  word
• 14:51
  shiva
• 14:52
  was
• 14:52
  channeled
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  me.
• 14:54
  It
• 14:54
  was,
• 14:54
  it
• 14:54
  means
• 14:55
  seeking
• 14:55
  harmony
• 14:56
  and
• 14:56
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• 14:56
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• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  action.
• 14:58
  And
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  was
• 15:00
  in
• 15:00
  a
• 15:00
  deep
• 15:00
  meditation
• 15:01
  and
• 15:01
  they
• 15:01
  gave
• 15:01
  me
• 15:02
  this
• 15:02
  word
• 15:02
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• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  said,
• 15:02
  what
• 15:03
  is
• 15:03
  that?
• 15:03
  What
• 15:04
  does
• 15:04
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• 15:04
  mean?
• 15:04
  And
• 15:05
  so
• 15:06
  ever
• 15:06
  since
• 15:06
  then,
• 15:06
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• 15:07
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• 15:07
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• 15:08
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• 15:09
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• 15:10
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• 15:10
  we
• 15:11
  say.
• 15:11
  So
• 15:14
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• 15:15
  a
• 15:15
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
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• 15:16
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• 15:16
  mouth
• 15:16
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• 15:17
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• 15:17
  been,
• 15:17
  you
• 15:18
  know,
• 15:18
  I've
• 15:18
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• 15:18
  doing
• 15:18
  this
• 15:18
  for
• 15:18
  so
• 15:19
  long.
• 15:19
  I
• 15:19
  worked
• 15:20
  with
• 15:20
  a
• 15:20
  lot
• 15:20
  of
• 15:20
  psychologists.
• 15:21
  And.
• 15:24
  Doctors
• 15:24
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• 15:25
  acupuncturists
• 15:26
  and
• 15:27
  word
• 15:27
  of
• 15:28
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• 15:28
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• 15:28
  pretty
• 15:28
  big.
• 15:29
  And
• 15:29
  so
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  would
• 15:29
  have
• 15:30
  clients
• 15:30
  at
• 15:30
  my
• 15:30
  house
• 15:31
  for
• 15:32
  many,
• 15:32
  many
• 15:32
  years
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  then
• 15:33
  teach
• 15:34
  classes
• 15:34
  here.
• 15:35
  And
• 15:35
  then
• 15:35
  Covid
• 15:35
  hit
• 15:36
  and,
• 15:36
  you
• 15:37
  know,
• 15:37
  so
• 15:37
  here,
• 15:37
  this
• 15:38
  became
• 15:38
  my
• 15:38
  best
• 15:39
  friend,
• 15:39
  this
• 15:40
  little
• 15:40
  sanding
• 15:41
  box.
• 15:41
  Well,
• 15:42
  and
• 15:42
  here
• 15:42
  we
• 15:43
  are.
• 15:43
  I
• 15:43
  mean,
• 15:43
  and
• 15:43
  here
• 15:43
  we
• 15:44
  are.
• 15:44
  And
• 15:45
  it's
• 15:45
  curious
• 15:45
  about
• 15:46
  when
• 15:46
  you're
• 15:47
  working
• 15:47
  with
• 15:47
  physicians
• 15:47
  and
• 15:48
  psychologists,
• 15:48
  how
• 15:49
  do
• 15:49
  they
• 15:49
  get
• 15:49
  past
• 15:49
  the
• 15:50
  woo,
• 15:50
  woo
• 15:50
  factor
• 15:51
  of,
• 15:51
  oh,
• 15:52
  body
• 15:52
  energy?
• 15:53
  What,
• 15:54
  what's
• 15:55
  that?
• 15:55
  Yeah,
• 15:56
  well,
• 15:56
  why,
• 15:57
  why
• 15:57
  should
• 15:57
  we
• 15:57
  think
• 15:57
  about
• 15:57
  that?
• 15:58
  They
• 15:58
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• 15:59
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• 15:59
  open
• 15:59
  and,
• 16:01
  you
• 16:01
  know,
• 16:02
  they
• 16:02
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• 16:02
  of
• 16:02
  kept
• 16:02
  it
• 16:03
  quiet.
• 16:03
  They
• 16:03
  didn't
• 16:04
  want
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  let
• 16:05
  people
• 16:05
  know
• 16:05
  that
• 16:06
  they
• 16:06
  were
• 16:06
  seeing
• 16:06
  me.
• 16:07
  Who's
• 16:07
  Fran?
• 16:07
  And
• 16:08
  anyway,
• 16:11
  yeah,
• 16:11
  I've
• 16:12
  had
• 16:12
  a
• 16:12
  lot
• 16:12
  of.
• 16:13
  There's
• 16:13
  an
• 16:13
  interesting
• 16:13
  story.
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  think
• 16:14
  you'll
• 16:15
  like
• 16:15
  this.
• 16:16
  He's
• 16:16
  a
• 16:17
  therapist
• 16:18
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• 16:18
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• 16:18
  worked
• 16:18
  with
• 16:18
  the
• 16:19
  staff
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  know,
• 16:20
  their.
• 16:21
  Their
• 16:21
  doctor
• 16:22
  passed
• 16:22
  away,
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  so
• 16:23
  they
• 16:23
  hired
• 16:23
  me
• 16:23
  to
• 16:24
  come
• 16:24
  work
• 16:24
  with.
• 16:25
  They
• 16:25
  would
• 16:25
  work
• 16:25
  with
• 16:26
  add,
• 16:26
  adults
• 16:27
  and
• 16:27
  children.
• 16:28
  And
• 16:28
  this
• 16:28
  is
• 16:29
  what
• 16:29
  is
• 16:29
  ADD
• 16:29
  quickly.
• 16:31
  Attention
• 16:31
  depth,
• 16:32
  ADD
• 16:33
  hd.
• 16:33
  Yeah.
• 16:34
  You
• 16:34
  know,
• 16:34
  the
• 16:35
  attention
• 16:36
  disorder.
• 16:37
  Yeah.
• 16:37
  Okay.
• 16:38
  Just
• 16:38
  so
• 16:38
  our
• 16:38
  listeners
• 16:39
  know.
• 16:39
  Yeah.
• 16:40
  So
• 16:40
  he.
• 16:41
  These
• 16:41
  psychologists
• 16:42
  were
• 16:42
  very.
• 16:42
  Most
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  them
• 16:43
  were
• 16:43
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• 16:43
  and
• 16:44
  very
• 16:44
  funny
• 16:45
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• 16:45
  you
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:45
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• 16:46
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• 16:46
  off
• 16:46
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• 16:46
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• 16:47
  and
• 16:47
  hanging
• 16:47
  up
• 16:47
  in
• 16:48
  the
• 16:48
  ceiling
• 16:48
  when
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  come
• 16:49
  in
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  have
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  pull
• 16:50
  him
• 16:50
  down.
• 16:50
  But
• 16:51
  this
• 16:51
  particular
• 16:52
  gentleman
• 16:54
  wanted
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  see
• 16:55
  me,
• 16:55
  wanted
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  change
• 16:56
  his
• 16:56
  life
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  et
• 16:57
  cetera,
• 16:57
  et
• 16:58
  cetera.
• 16:58
  So
• 16:58
  he
• 16:59
  came,
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  did
• 16:59
  energy
• 17:00
  work
• 17:00
  on
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  table.
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  would
• 17:02
  do
• 17:02
  dancing,
• 17:03
  you
• 17:03
  know,
• 17:04
  I
• 17:04
  do
• 17:04
  stretching,
• 17:05
  I
• 17:05
  do
• 17:05
  meditation.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:06
  he
• 17:07
  loved
• 17:07
  it
• 17:07
  all.
• 17:07
  But
• 17:08
  this
• 17:08
  particular
• 17:09
  time,
• 17:10
  he
• 17:10
  had.
• 17:12
  He
• 17:12
  had
• 17:12
  a
• 17:13
  hernia.
• 17:13
  Hernia
• 17:14
  disc.
• 17:15
  And
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  doctors
• 17:17
  that
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  work
• 17:19
  with,
• 17:19
  he
• 17:19
  went
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  see
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  they
• 17:20
  said,
• 17:20
  well,
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  need
• 17:21
  surgery.
• 17:22
  You
• 17:22
  know,
• 17:24
  you're
• 17:24
  not
• 17:24
  going
• 17:24
  to
• 17:24
  be
• 17:24
  able
• 17:24
  to
• 17:25
  walk
• 17:25
  again.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  so
• 17:28
  this
• 17:28
  is
• 17:28
  how.
• 17:28
  This
• 17:28
  work
• 17:29
  is
• 17:29
  very
• 17:30
  strange
• 17:30
  sometimes.
• 17:31
  So
• 17:31
  I
• 17:31
  kept.
• 17:32
  When
• 17:32
  I
• 17:33
  have
• 17:33
  a
• 17:33
  patient
• 17:33
  and
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  get
• 17:34
  them
• 17:34
  in
• 17:35
  my
• 17:35
  dream
• 17:36
  where
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  kept
• 17:37
  these
• 17:37
  visions.
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  was
• 17:38
  driving
• 17:39
  one
• 17:39
  day
• 17:39
  and
• 17:40
  I
• 17:41
  kept
• 17:41
  seeing
• 17:41
  his
• 17:41
  disc.
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  mean,
• 17:43
  here
• 17:43
  I
• 17:44
  am
• 17:44
  driving
• 17:44
  and
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  saw
• 17:45
  it
• 17:45
  whole.
• 17:46
  You
• 17:46
  know,
• 17:46
  not
• 17:47
  bulged
• 17:48
  or
• 17:48
  anything.
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  saw
• 17:48
  it
• 17:48
  whole.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:49
  I
• 17:50
  said,
• 17:50
  look,
• 17:52
  Tom,
• 17:53
  you
• 17:53
  may
• 17:53
  think
• 17:53
  I'm
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  little
• 17:54
  cray
• 17:54
  cray,
• 17:55
  but
• 17:55
  I
• 17:55
  want
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  come
• 17:56
  and
• 17:56
  see
• 17:57
  me
• 17:58
  and
• 17:58
  we'll
• 17:59
  work.
• 17:59
  You
• 17:59
  can
• 17:59
  sit
• 17:59
  in
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  chair,
• 18:00
  but
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  really
• 18:01
  think
• 18:01
  that
• 18:02
  I
• 18:02
  can
• 18:02
  help
• 18:02
  you.
• 18:04
  So
• 18:04
  he
• 18:04
  comes
• 18:05
  in,
• 18:05
  he
• 18:05
  kind
• 18:05
  of
• 18:06
  barely
• 18:06
  walks.
• 18:07
  He's
• 18:07
  up,
• 18:07
  coming
• 18:08
  up
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  steps
• 18:09
  and
• 18:10
  is
• 18:10
  really
• 18:10
  upset.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:11
  he,
• 18:11
  you
• 18:11
  know,
• 18:11
  this
• 18:11
  happened
• 18:12
  when
• 18:12
  he
• 18:12
  bent
• 18:13
  down
• 18:13
  to
• 18:13
  pick
• 18:13
  up
• 18:13
  something.
• 18:14
  Anyway,
• 18:15
  so
• 18:15
  he's
• 18:15
  sitting
• 18:16
  in
• 18:16
  my.
• 18:17
  My
• 18:17
  bedroom
• 18:18
  on
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  chair,
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  start
• 18:19
  pulling
• 18:20
  this
• 18:20
  energy
• 18:20
  off
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  heat
• 18:22
  off
• 18:22
  of
• 18:22
  him
• 18:22
  and
• 18:23
  pulling
• 18:23
  it
• 18:24
  all
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  way
• 18:24
  around.
• 18:24
  So
• 18:24
  I'm.
• 18:25
  It's
• 18:25
  like
• 18:25
  a.
• 18:26
  It's
• 18:26
  like
• 18:26
  a
• 18:29
  no,
• 18:29
  but
• 18:30
  it's
• 18:30
  just
• 18:30
  this
• 18:30
  energy
• 18:31
  is
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  same
• 18:31
  pain
• 18:32
  that
• 18:32
  he
• 18:32
  had
• 18:32
  in
• 18:32
  his
• 18:33
  back,
• 18:34
  like,
• 18:34
  go
• 18:35
  around
• 18:35
  and
• 18:35
  he's
• 18:36
  sweating
• 18:36
  and
• 18:36
  he's
• 18:37
  crying
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  he's
• 18:38
  releasing.
• 18:38
  And
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  go
• 18:39
  around
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  other
• 18:39
  side
• 18:39
  of
• 18:40
  him
• 18:41
  and
• 18:41
  go
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  the.
• 18:42
  His
• 18:42
  right
• 18:42
  knee
• 18:43
  and
• 18:43
  kind
• 18:43
  of
• 18:44
  finish
• 18:44
  pulling
• 18:45
  this
• 18:45
  energy
• 18:46
  out.
• 18:46
  And
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  said,
• 18:46
  okay,
• 18:47
  we're
• 18:48
  done.
• 18:50
  And
• 18:51
  he
• 18:54
  stops
• 18:54
  crying.
• 18:56
  He
• 18:56
  looks
• 18:56
  at
• 18:56
  me,
• 18:56
  said,
• 18:56
  the
• 18:57
  pain
• 18:57
  is
• 18:57
  gone.
• 18:58
  Wow.
• 19:00
  He
• 19:01
  stands
• 19:01
  up,
• 19:02
  he
• 19:02
  walks
• 19:03
  out
• 19:05
  and
• 19:06
  he's
• 19:06
  supposed
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  have
• 19:07
  surgery
• 19:07
  like
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  next
• 19:08
  two
• 19:08
  days,
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  next
• 19:09
  day.
• 19:09
  And
• 19:09
  he
• 19:09
  goes
• 19:10
  to
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  doctor,
• 19:11
  he
• 19:11
  said,
• 19:12
  who
• 19:12
  do
• 19:13
  you
• 19:13
  work
• 19:13
  with?
• 19:14
  And
• 19:15
  he
• 19:15
  said,
• 19:15
  well,
• 19:16
  this
• 19:16
  woman
• 19:16
  named
• 19:17
  Fran.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  she
• 19:17
  dances
• 19:18
  and
• 19:18
  he
• 19:19
  does
• 19:19
  energy
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  she
• 19:20
  does.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:21
  he
• 19:21
  said,
• 19:22
  that's
• 19:22
  okay,
• 19:23
  don't
• 19:23
  tell
• 19:23
  me
• 19:23
  anymore.
• 19:27
  And
• 19:27
  he
• 19:27
  said,
• 19:27
  I've
• 19:28
  never
• 19:28
  done
• 19:28
  this.
• 19:28
  I've
• 19:29
  never
• 19:29
  walked
• 19:29
  anybody
• 19:30
  out
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  my.
• 19:30
  They
• 19:30
  said
• 19:30
  that
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  disc
• 19:31
  is,
• 19:32
  you
• 19:32
  know,
• 19:32
  the
• 19:32
  hernia
• 19:32
  is
• 19:33
  gone,
• 19:35
  you
• 19:35
  know,
• 19:36
  you
• 19:36
  can
• 19:36
  walk
• 19:36
  out
• 19:36
  of
• 19:37
  here.
• 19:37
  And
• 19:37
  he
• 19:37
  says,
• 19:38
  Tom
• 19:39
  said,
• 19:39
  he
• 19:39
  turned
• 19:40
  around,
• 19:40
  he
• 19:40
  said,
• 19:40
  does
• 19:40
  she
• 19:41
  do
• 19:41
  anything
• 19:41
  with
• 19:41
  weight?
• 19:44
  Like
• 19:44
  he
• 19:44
  was
• 19:44
  heavy.
• 19:45
  Do
• 19:45
  you.
• 19:45
  Does
• 19:45
  she
• 19:46
  do
• 19:46
  anything
• 19:46
  with
• 19:46
  weight?
• 19:46
  Right,
• 19:47
  right.
• 19:47
  Anyway,
• 19:48
  that's
• 19:48
  a
• 19:48
  funny
• 19:49
  story.
• 19:50
  Very
• 19:50
  interesting.
• 19:51
  Yeah,
• 19:52
  well,
• 19:53
  I,
• 19:53
  I
• 19:54
  did
• 19:54
  want
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  address
• 19:55
  like
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  woo
• 19:55
  woo
• 19:56
  factor,
• 19:56
  as
• 19:56
  Anthony
• 19:57
  called
• 19:57
  it
• 19:57
  earlier.
• 19:57
  I
• 19:58
  think
• 19:58
  it's
• 19:58
  so
• 19:59
  interesting.
• 20:00
  A
• 20:01
  few,
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  few
• 20:01
  different
• 20:02
  things
• 20:02
  come
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  mind
• 20:03
  regarding
• 20:03
  that.
• 20:04
  First
• 20:04
  off,
• 20:04
  my
• 20:04
  own
• 20:05
  experience,
• 20:05
  I
• 20:06
  know
• 20:07
  for
• 20:07
  meditation
• 20:08
  I
• 20:08
  had
• 20:08
  to
• 20:09
  see
• 20:09
  in
• 20:09
  my
• 20:10
  own
• 20:10
  thought
• 20:10
  something
• 20:11
  breaking
• 20:11
  through
• 20:11
  my
• 20:12
  own
• 20:12
  thought
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  kind
• 20:13
  of
• 20:13
  not
• 20:13
  thought
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  have
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  idea
• 20:15
  that
• 20:16
  we
• 20:17
  have
• 20:18
  just
• 20:18
  that,
• 20:19
  you
• 20:19
  know,
• 20:19
  palpably
• 20:20
  something
• 20:20
  exists
• 20:21
  beyond
• 20:22
  thought.
• 20:22
  Not
• 20:23
  just
• 20:23
  that
• 20:23
  you
• 20:23
  can
• 20:23
  conceptualize
• 20:24
  it,
• 20:24
  but
• 20:25
  you
• 20:25
  can
• 20:26
  experience
• 20:26
  it.
• 20:27
  So
• 20:27
  that
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  an
• 20:28
  experience
• 20:28
  for
• 20:28
  me.
• 20:28
  And
• 20:28
  then
• 20:29
  from
• 20:29
  there
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  was
• 20:30
  able
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  meditate
• 20:31
  and,
• 20:31
  you
• 20:32
  know,
• 20:32
  understand
• 20:32
  more
• 20:33
  energy
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  my
• 20:33
  body.
• 20:34
  So
• 20:34
  that's,
• 20:35
  that's
• 20:35
  just
• 20:35
  one
• 20:35
  kind
• 20:36
  of
• 20:36
  connection
• 20:37
  I'm
• 20:37
  making
• 20:37
  here
• 20:38
  with
• 20:38
  my
• 20:38
  own
• 20:38
  experience.
• 20:39
  But
• 20:40
  what
• 20:43
  is
• 20:43
  it
• 20:43
  frustrating
• 20:44
  for
• 20:44
  you
• 20:45
  that
• 20:46
  it's
• 20:47
  so
• 20:47
  clear
• 20:48
  that
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  world
• 20:49
  has
• 20:49
  matter
• 20:49
  and
• 20:50
  energy?
• 20:50
  We
• 20:50
  know
• 20:51
  in
• 20:51
  science
• 20:51
  that
• 20:52
  there's
• 20:52
  energy.
• 20:53
  We
• 20:53
  know
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  we
• 20:54
  move.
• 20:55
  If
• 20:55
  we
• 20:55
  didn't
• 20:56
  have
• 20:56
  energy,
• 20:56
  we
• 20:56
  wouldn't
• 20:57
  be
• 20:57
  moving.
• 20:58
  And
• 20:59
  does
• 20:59
  it
• 21:00
  ever
• 21:00
  frustrate
• 21:01
  you
• 21:01
  that
• 21:01
  something
• 21:02
  so
• 21:02
  simple
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  so
• 21:03
  obvious
• 21:04
  and
• 21:05
  so
• 21:05
  just
• 21:05
  fundamental
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  nature
• 21:06
  of
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  world
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  nature
• 21:07
  of
• 21:08
  life
• 21:08
  itself
• 21:09
  can
• 21:09
  be
• 21:10
  dismissed
• 21:10
  so
• 21:11
  readily
• 21:11
  or
• 21:12
  ignored?
• 21:15
  True,
• 21:17
  but
• 21:21
  that's
• 21:21
  where,
• 21:24
  that's
• 21:24
  where
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  humbleness
• 21:25
  comes
• 21:25
  in,
• 21:27
  you
• 21:27
  know,
• 21:27
  where
• 21:29
  it's
• 21:30
  not
• 21:30
  your
• 21:31
  decision
• 21:31
  to
• 21:32
  decide
• 21:33
  for
• 21:33
  others
• 21:36
  where
• 21:36
  they
• 21:36
  are
• 21:36
  in
• 21:37
  their
• 21:37
  life
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  their
• 21:39
  journey.
• 21:42
  So
• 21:42
  for
• 21:42
  me,
• 21:45
  like
• 21:46
  in
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  method,
• 21:46
  it's
• 21:47
  very,
• 21:47
  very
• 21:47
  simple.
• 21:47
  You
• 21:48
  just
• 21:48
  learn
• 21:48
  these
• 21:48
  steps
• 21:49
  and
• 21:49
  these
• 21:50
  different
• 21:50
  self
• 21:51
  inquiry,
• 21:52
  kind
• 21:52
  of
• 21:53
  interest
• 21:54
  in
• 21:54
  your
• 21:54
  own
• 21:55
  spiritual
• 21:56
  advancement.
• 21:59
  So
• 21:59
  if
• 21:59
  I
• 21:59
  can
• 22:00
  teach
• 22:00
  people
• 22:00
  about
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  chakra
• 22:01
  system,
• 22:02
  and
• 22:02
  that's
• 22:03
  just
• 22:03
  that
• 22:03
  level
• 22:04
  of
• 22:04
  understanding
• 22:05
  how
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  body
• 22:06
  works
• 22:07
  with
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  sphere
• 22:09
  of
• 22:09
  energy
• 22:10
  as
• 22:10
  a
• 22:11
  psychic
• 22:12
  center
• 22:13
  in
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  body,
• 22:16
  that's
• 22:16
  good.
• 22:18
  So
• 22:20
  it
• 22:20
  is
• 22:21
  frustrating.
• 22:22
  And
• 22:22
  I
• 22:22
  think
• 22:22
  that
• 22:23
  through
• 22:23
  the
• 22:24
  years,
• 22:27
  again,
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  humbleness
• 22:28
  sort
• 22:28
  of
• 22:29
  keeps
• 22:30
  you
• 22:34
  not
• 22:34
  detached,
• 22:35
  just
• 22:35
  allowing,
• 22:37
  allowing
• 22:38
  those
• 22:38
  to
• 22:38
  be
• 22:39
  where
• 22:39
  they
• 22:39
  need
• 22:39
  to
• 22:40
  be.
• 22:40
  Yeah,
• 22:40
  it's
• 22:40
  beautiful.
• 22:41
  Just
• 22:41
  letting
• 22:41
  people
• 22:42
  process
• 22:42
  how
• 22:43
  they
• 22:43
  need
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  process
• 22:43
  and
• 22:44
  go
• 22:44
  along
• 22:44
  their
• 22:44
  own
• 22:45
  journey.
• 22:45
  I
• 22:45
  think
• 22:45
  that's
• 22:46
  uncommon
• 22:47
  in
• 22:47
  Western
• 22:47
  culture.
• 22:48
  We
• 22:48
  want
• 22:48
  to
• 22:48
  evangelize,
• 22:49
  we
• 22:49
  want
• 22:49
  to
• 22:50
  sell,
• 22:50
  we
• 22:50
  want
• 22:51
  to
• 22:51
  bring
• 22:51
  a
• 22:51
  briefcase
• 22:51
  and
• 22:52
  say,
• 22:52
  hey,
• 22:52
  look
• 22:52
  at
• 22:52
  me,
• 22:52
  look
• 22:53
  at
• 22:53
  what
• 22:53
  I'm
• 22:53
  doing
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  buy
• 22:54
  it.
• 22:55
  So
• 22:55
  it's.
• 22:55
  It's
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  challenge.
• 22:56
  And
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  appreciate
• 22:56
  that
• 22:56
  you're
• 22:57
  able
• 22:57
  to.
• 22:57
  To
• 22:57
  walk
• 22:58
  that.
• 22:58
  That
• 22:58
  tightrope.
• 23:00
  Not
• 23:00
  always,
• 23:01
  but,
• 23:01
  you
• 23:01
  know.
• 23:02
  Sure,
• 23:03
  sure,
• 23:03
  of
• 23:04
  course.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:07
  So
• 23:10
  it
• 23:10
  comes
• 23:10
  to
• 23:11
  mind
• 23:11
  also
• 23:12
  about
• 23:14
  what's
• 23:15
  happening
• 23:15
  in
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  world
• 23:15
  today.
• 23:16
  And
• 23:16
  you
• 23:17
  notice
• 23:18
  that,
• 23:18
  particularly
• 23:19
  after
• 23:19
  Covid
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  I.
• 23:20
  Actually,
• 23:22
  Adam
• 23:22
  and
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  had
• 23:23
  been
• 23:24
  teaching
• 23:24
  at
• 23:24
  university,
• 23:25
  and
• 23:26
  we
• 23:26
  noticed,
• 23:26
  at
• 23:27
  least
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  did.
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  think,
• 23:28
  Adam,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  did
• 23:28
  too,
• 23:29
  that
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  young
• 23:30
  people
• 23:30
  coming
• 23:31
  in
• 23:31
  were
• 23:32
  very
• 23:33
  depressed,
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  part
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  it
• 23:35
  was
• 23:35
  from
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  isolation
• 23:36
  of
• 23:37
  COVID
• 23:37
  and
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  other
• 23:38
  part
• 23:38
  was
• 23:39
  from
• 23:39
  the
• 23:40
  addictive
• 23:40
  quality
• 23:41
  of
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  dopamine
• 23:42
  addiction
• 23:42
  from
• 23:42
  their
• 23:43
  phones.
• 23:43
  Right.
• 23:44
  And
• 23:45
  what
• 23:46
  do
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  have
• 23:47
  in
• 23:48
  a
• 23:48
  recommendation
• 23:49
  for
• 23:50
  anyone
• 23:50
  in
• 23:51
  these
• 23:51
  times
• 23:52
  of
• 23:55
  political
• 23:56
  uncertainty
• 23:57
  and
• 23:57
  social
• 23:58
  involvement?
• 24:01
  What
• 24:01
  can
• 24:01
  we
• 24:01
  do
• 24:02
  in
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  daily
• 24:03
  regimen?
• 24:07
  I
• 24:07
  would
• 24:07
  say
• 24:08
  that
• 24:11
  the.
• 24:12
  The
• 24:12
  biggest
• 24:13
  thing
• 24:13
  that.
• 24:14
  Where
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  wake
• 24:15
  up
• 24:17
  is
• 24:17
  maybe
• 24:17
  do
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  scanning
• 24:18
  of
• 24:18
  your
• 24:19
  body.
• 24:19
  You
• 24:19
  know,
• 24:20
  it's.
• 24:20
  While
• 24:20
  you're
• 24:21
  laying
• 24:21
  down
• 24:21
  and.
• 24:21
  And.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:22
  proceed
• 24:23
  with
• 24:23
  what
• 24:24
  kind
• 24:25
  of
• 24:25
  day
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  want
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  have.
• 24:27
  That's
• 24:27
  number
• 24:27
  one.
• 24:28
  Okay.
• 24:29
  What
• 24:29
  kind
• 24:30
  of
• 24:30
  day
• 24:30
  do
• 24:30
  you
• 24:30
  want
• 24:30
  to
• 24:31
  present,
• 24:31
  who
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  presenting
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  who
• 24:33
  is.
• 24:33
  You
• 24:34
  know,
• 24:34
  where
• 24:34
  am
• 24:34
  I
• 24:35
  in
• 24:35
  my
• 24:35
  knowing
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  myself?
• 24:37
  And
• 24:39
  do
• 24:40
  I,
• 24:40
  one,
• 24:40
  want
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  jump
• 24:42
  up
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  get
• 24:42
  into
• 24:42
  my
• 24:43
  phone
• 24:43
  and
• 24:44
  make
• 24:45
  that
• 24:47
  part
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  my
• 24:48
  daily
• 24:48
  obsession,
• 24:50
  or
• 24:51
  am
• 24:51
  I
• 24:51
  limiting
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  time?
• 24:52
  I
• 24:53
  do
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  just
• 24:53
  to
• 24:53
  check
• 24:54
  in,
• 24:54
  put
• 24:54
  it
• 24:54
  down,
• 24:55
  move
• 24:56
  on.
• 24:57
  Number
• 24:58
  two,
• 24:58
  remember
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  innocence
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  who
• 25:01
  you
• 25:02
  are.
• 25:03
  The
• 25:04
  innocence
• 25:04
  is
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  biggest
• 25:05
  thing
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  just
• 25:05
  wrote
• 25:06
  about
• 25:06
  it
• 25:07
  is
• 25:08
  just
• 25:08
  remembering
• 25:08
  that
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  childlike
• 25:11
  person.
• 25:13
  Child
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  we
• 25:14
  were
• 25:14
  and
• 25:15
  are.
• 25:16
  And
• 25:16
  with
• 25:16
  this
• 25:17
  new
• 25:17
  energy,
• 25:18
  we
• 25:18
  have
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  bring
• 25:18
  that
• 25:19
  forward
• 25:20
  because
• 25:21
  it's.
• 25:21
  It's.
• 25:24
  You
• 25:24
  know,
• 25:24
  that
• 25:24
  is
• 25:25
  life.
• 25:25
  That
• 25:25
  is
• 25:26
  living.
• 25:26
  That
• 25:26
  is
• 25:26
  the
• 25:27
  compassion,
• 25:28
  that
• 25:28
  is
• 25:28
  the
• 25:29
  innocence
• 25:29
  of
• 25:30
  who
• 25:30
  we
• 25:31
  are
• 25:32
  becoming
• 25:34
  who
• 25:34
  we
• 25:35
  were
• 25:35
  at
• 25:35
  one
• 25:36
  time.
• 25:37
  And
• 25:38
  so
• 25:38
  I
• 25:38
  think
• 25:39
  that
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  loss
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  depression
• 25:42
  is
• 25:42
  that.
• 25:44
  That
• 25:44
  we.
• 25:45
  We
• 25:46
  as
• 25:46
  humans
• 25:47
  have
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  reconnect,
• 25:49
  and
• 25:50
  then
• 25:50
  that
• 25:50
  humanness
• 25:51
  can
• 25:51
  be
• 25:54
  expanded
• 25:55
  with
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  divine
• 25:58
  so
• 25:59
  that.
• 25:59
  That
• 25:59
  the
• 26:00
  heart
• 26:00
  is
• 26:00
  speaking
• 26:04
  rather
• 26:04
  than
• 26:04
  this.
• 26:04
  This
• 26:05
  immediate
• 26:05
  satisfaction,
• 26:06
  because
• 26:07
  that's.
• 26:07
  It's
• 26:07
  just
• 26:08
  endless.
• 26:08
  It's
• 26:08
  just.
• 26:09
  There's
• 26:09
  nothing
• 26:09
  there.
• 26:11
  Well,
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  it's
• 26:12
  been
• 26:12
  engineered
• 26:12
  in
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  algorithm
• 26:13
  to
• 26:14
  keep
• 26:14
  you
• 26:14
  hooked,
• 26:15
  you
• 26:15
  know,
• 26:16
  And
• 26:17
  I
• 26:18
  often
• 26:18
  say
• 26:20
  when
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  give
• 26:20
  a
• 26:20
  kid
• 26:21
  at
• 26:21
  age
• 26:21
  11
• 26:23
  a
• 26:23
  smartphone,
• 26:24
  it's
• 26:24
  like
• 26:24
  dropping
• 26:25
  them
• 26:25
  off
• 26:25
  in
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  worst
• 26:26
  part
• 26:26
  of
• 26:26
  town
• 26:26
  and
• 26:27
  saying,
• 26:27
  well,
• 26:28
  I'm
• 26:28
  gonna.
• 26:28
  I'll
• 26:29
  come
• 26:29
  back
• 26:29
  in
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  couple
• 26:29
  weeks.
• 26:30
  Have
• 26:30
  a
• 26:30
  good
• 26:30
  time.
• 26:31
  These
• 26:31
  kids
• 26:32
  have
• 26:32
  no
• 26:32
  idea
• 26:33
  what's
• 26:34
  in
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  phone.
• 26:35
  And
• 26:35
  a
• 26:35
  lot
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  times
• 26:35
  adults
• 26:36
  will
• 26:37
  also
• 26:37
  struggle
• 26:38
  with
• 26:38
  that.
• 26:39
  But,
• 26:40
  you
• 26:40
  know,
• 26:40
  I.
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  do
• 26:41
  appreciate
• 26:42
  your.
• 26:42
  Your
• 26:42
  energy
• 26:43
  work
• 26:43
  and
• 26:46
  you've
• 26:46
  become
• 26:47
  aware,
• 26:47
  I
• 26:47
  think
• 26:47
  it
• 26:48
  sounds
• 26:48
  like
• 26:49
  that
• 26:50
  as
• 26:50
  human
• 26:50
  beings
• 26:51
  we
• 26:51
  are
• 26:52
  more
• 26:53
  than
• 26:54
  who
• 26:54
  we
• 26:54
  think
• 26:54
  we
• 26:55
  are.
• 26:57
  So
• 26:58
  we're
• 26:58
  coming
• 26:58
  up
• 26:59
  on
• 27:00
  we
• 27:00
  have
• 27:00
  to
• 27:00
  take
• 27:00
  a
• 27:00
  short
• 27:01
  break.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:03
  I'm
• 27:03
  Anthony
• 27:03
  Wright
• 27:04
  with
• 27:04
  my
• 27:04
  co
• 27:05
  host
• 27:05
  Adam
• 27:06
  Dietz.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:07
  we
• 27:07
  are
• 27:07
  here
• 27:07
  with
• 27:08
  our
• 27:08
  guest,
• 27:08
  Fran
• 27:09
  Bailey.
• 27:09
  And
• 27:09
  how
• 27:10
  can
• 27:10
  people
• 27:10
  contact
• 27:10
  you
• 27:11
  friend.
• 27:13
  On
• 27:13
  my
• 27:14
  website,
• 27:14
  Fran
• 27:14
  baileyhealer.com
• 27:16
  you
• 27:16
  can
• 27:16
  contact
• 27:17
  me
• 27:17
  there.
• 27:18
  Just
• 27:18
  write
• 27:19
  me
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  note.
• 27:20
  That's
• 27:20
  B,
• 27:20
  A,
• 27:20
  I,
• 27:21
  L,
• 27:21
  E,
• 27:21
  Y.
• 27:22
  Yes,
• 27:22
  yes.
• 27:23
  And
• 27:23
  there
• 27:23
  are
• 27:23
  all
• 27:23
  kinds
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  free
• 27:24
  meditations
• 27:25
  and,
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  know,
• 27:26
  all
• 27:26
  kinds
• 27:27
  of
• 27:27
  scenario.
• 27:28
  My
• 27:28
  book
• 27:28
  is
• 27:29
  in
• 27:29
  there
• 27:29
  and
• 27:30
  all
• 27:30
  kinds
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  stuff.
• 27:31
  But
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  do
• 27:31
  a
• 27:32
  free
• 27:32
  consult
• 27:32
  of,
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  know,
• 27:33
  if
• 27:33
  somebody
• 27:34
  wants
• 27:34
  to
• 27:34
  speak
• 27:34
  to
• 27:35
  me
• 27:35
  and
• 27:36
  we'll
• 27:36
  chat,
• 27:37
  phone
• 27:37
  and
• 27:38
  go
• 27:39
  from
• 27:39
  there.
• 27:39
  Great.
• 27:40
  All
• 27:40
  right.
• 27:41
  We'll
• 27:41
  take
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  short
• 27:41
  break
• 27:41
  and
• 27:42
  be
• 27:42
  right
• 27:42
  back.
• 27:42
  So
• 27:43
  stay
• 27:43
  tuned.
• 27:44
  That's.