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Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury rematch · Boxing B-Sides

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We're here to fucking party.
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Coming up on the big day.
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There are a lot of lumps of coal in our stockings for the next like two weeks.
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A lot of bullshit.
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Not that good.
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But whatever.
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We're going to power through.
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I mean, that's why people listen to B-Sides.
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Right.
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For the not so good stuff.
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And because it can be fun, I guess.
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Fuck.
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Tripp's not here, so December 7th on the MMA side of the street, UFC 310.
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There's a whole to do about a Japanese fighter coming from Ryzen.
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The Japanese promotion crossed over to UFC.
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He, the first time in the UFC, he gets to fight for the title because he's a,
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what, like, quote unquote, accomplished champion already or whatever.
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So.
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Yeah.
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I actually watched this one.
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Yes.
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Everybody was pinging me about it.
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I was like, fine.
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I'll watch.
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I'm bad luck.
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I think.
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That's when we were on fucking not shameless plug, very proud plug, ultimate effing casual.
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We were talking about it over there and Isaac was saying, like, if you ever suggest a fight
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to somebody, it's like 90% likely it's going to suck.
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That's always been my experience as well.
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Yeah.
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MMA does seem a lot more hit or miss.
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Boxing, you can call a little more often whether it's going to be fun or not, I think.
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Yeah, because it's like you're just your hands.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Nobody's wrestle fucking people.
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Which is what happened in that main event.
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Kind of for whatever it counts, the guy Kai Asakura, he tried his best to be entertaining
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and explosive.
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Pause?
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Question mark.
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But it was just flying knees, a lot of them.
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Yeah.
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He was he looked like me trying to play Street Fighter with that one character.
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I always hit the wrong button and just jumping knee and completely miss.
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Yeah, that's what Kai ended up doing the whole time, got choked out by the champ Alessandra Pantoja.
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But if you want to hear more, like we break down the whole card over on ultimate effing casuals.
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So check that out if you want more MMA talk.
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Now, I didn't get didn't look for any news because there's just there are plenty of cards
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to cover.
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So still December 7th in Sofia, Bulgaria, Kubra Pulev beats Mamouchar, 12 round stinker
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for the WBA totally, completely, absolutely legit world title.
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Very, very prestigious title, very real and absolutely legitimate.
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It was boring as shit.
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Kubra Pulev looked his age.
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So they both looked old as fuck.
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Yeah.
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Mamouchar has been out for a while.
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This dude is like the WBA Reggie warrior.
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He's been defending that shit for I don't know how long now.
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Yeah, I don't want to see Pulev anymore.
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I didn't want to see Pulev this time either, but I guess.
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Yeah, I watched this shit so that you all don't have to.
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I have to admit, I didn't watch any of the undercard.
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I don't think there's any hidden gems either, though.
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I skipped it.
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I skipped all of it.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not sorry.
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It's bad when me and you are skipping it.
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No shit when the sickos aren't watching.
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It's pretty bad.
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Moving on in Waterford, Ireland.
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Fucking this is a Pro Box card.
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This is our partnership with Conlon Boxing.
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Trying to remember if anything stood out.
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Tyrone McKenna stopping Dylan Moran in the second was pretty cool.
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Trying to remember Sultan Zarbek versus Damien fucking something or other.
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Polish was it was a good scrap.
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I think they kept.
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Rezenski.
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Rezenski.
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I think Rezenski.
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Probably.
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That's probably right.
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Tyrone McKenna and Dylan Moran.
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Highly recommend it stopped in the second.
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So it's not a whole lot of your time.
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I would say they kept this fight and the one before Graham McCormick stops Craig McCarthy
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in the sixth.
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Those two.
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They kept calling them like Irish dust ups.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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What the hell that is.
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I know it's like a fight or whatever, but I've never heard dust up as.
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It's like a Mexican war.
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OK.
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Got an Irish dust up.
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Irish.
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Very similar.
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I assume that people were just throwing a million punches and not too worried about
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defense.
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McCormick versus McCarthy was actually like for the level that they're at, it's a six
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round fight.
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So like they're not looking like Canelo or Pacquiao or Mayweather or anything like that.
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But it was fun.
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It was a fun Irish dust up.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I think I missed this one.
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The European ones are just at the wrong time for me.
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I caught it on replay.
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It's on YouTube, baby.
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I love Pro Box.
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I love Pro Box so much.
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Everybody that listens to us should go download their stupid app thing so that they keep putting
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money into Pro Box.
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I've been meaning to do that.
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Yeah.
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There's one more that I wanted to point out on this card.
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It's Garen Croft.
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He was making his pro debut, gets a stop over Ermin Salih in the first round within a matter
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of like 30 seconds.
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It was kind of silly.
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It was pretty clearly it was an he oversold it.
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Salih oversold the stoppage.
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Nice.
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I think his nickname is like, hold on, I want to make sure I got this right.
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They don't have it listed, but they were saying he goes by like the fire hydrant for whatever
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the fuck reason.
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I don't know if that means something else in Croatia, where he's from.
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I cannot think of a good thing it can mean.
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Right.
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Like dogs piss on you.
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Is that what you're talking about, dude?
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I guess maybe he's short and he is very short and compact.
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Like he looks like a fire hydrant.
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Yeah, he's built like a fire hydrant.
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That's got to be it.
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That has to be it.
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No way this guy's calling himself like the fucking piss target for fun.
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Maybe he's a.
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That's a terrible fucking nickname.
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It's yeah, it leaves a lot to interpretation.
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And that's not a good thing in this case.
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Croft landed like a single.
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He landed like a left hook to the temple.
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It looked like Sally was a little shook, but a follow up right hand.
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It looked like Sally.
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It was theatrical.
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The way he fucking like his feet came out from under him, like a cartoon pulling a rug
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out from someone.
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And then he just like turned horizontal and he fell down, like rolled like he was completely
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out of it.
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So he's looking like he's, you know, in trouble and the ref waves it off, as you would expect,
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because he finished the count of 10 or whatever.
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And then he starts acting completely fine and protesting that it got stopped.
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It's like you overdid it.
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But he didn't want to be there.
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Right.
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He didn't.
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But like you, you overdid it.
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You're supposed to be OK.
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Like you're you're rocked.
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Yes.
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But you're supposed to be OK enough to continue.
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So that was a fun one.
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Nice.
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There's a guy named Dan Duffy on the also on the card.
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Danny Duffy.
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I do a Danny Duffy.
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Yeah, Danny.
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I think that's a pretty common name.
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Moving on, Queensbury in London, not going to go through everything, but Lawrence Okoli
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gets a stoppage in the first over Hussein Mohammed.
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Goodness gracious.
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Okoli is fat as fuck.
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He looked good at cruiserweight.
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Now he's like 240 pounds and it none like very little of it is gained muscle.
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Not a good look.
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David Adelai, TKO one over Solomon.
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I keep saying, is it Dakers?
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I'm going to go with Dakers.
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I got to stop pretending that it's something else.
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The British, the fucking Pride heavyweight belt.
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David Adelai takes that one.
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And I mentioned him because if he's got this one there, you know, he's there.
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He's going to get the push.
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So expect to see him in your main events on like bigger cards soon.
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Sam Nokes versus Ryan Walsh shows a good fight.
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It was fun.
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That's a lot of belts.
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A lot of secondary belts.
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British belt, Commonwealth belt and the WBO International for lightweights.
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And Denzel Bentley, same situation at middleweight for the EBU, British belt and the WBO International.
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So Denzel is going to expect to see these guys, these three Sam Nokes, David Adelai
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and Denzel Bentley.
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Expect to start seeing them in your social media feeds.
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Yeah, heavyweights are so damn boring.
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They can be more often than not.
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British mid-level heavyweights are terrible.
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Cannot get excited for them.
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I'm sorry.
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All right.
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Still on the seventh matchroom in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
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Oh, a bunch of stuff on this one.
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I'm going to just cherry pick here and go straight to the main event because Mark Castro.
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No.
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What?
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Yeah, I was going to say we got a shit on Elon Musk.
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Yeah, I was going to say Mark Castro.
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Elon Musk dropping a split decision to Agustin Quintana.
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Just sorry, buddy.
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Maybe change the name back to Twitter and I'll care.
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Yeah, Mark Castro, they pushed him so hard for a little while.
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I think they've realized he's kind of not all that.
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Right.
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They really pulled back on promoting him a bit.
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Yes.
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I would say that they stopped doing it around.
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Was it, I think it was the Canelo Triple G third fight that he was on and I haven't really
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seen him get the push since.
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Yeah.
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He's on their Instagram every once in a while, but when they were really pushing him, he
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was there all the damn time.
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Yeah.
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I haven't seen any posts with him.
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Even for this fight, I think there was one post that mentioned him.
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They've really pulled back on the Mark Castro love.
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I suppose because he looks very much like Elon Musk and he's a polarizing figure.
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Maybe they're trying to.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Maybe they just realized he's not that good at boxing.
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That is the more logical one, so let's not go with that.
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Well, it's also Golden Boy, isn't it?
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No, it's Matchroom.
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They like to push mid people all the damn time.
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Yes.
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Well, you know, speaking of mid fucking Richardson Hitchens split decision over Liam Parrow.
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I'm a little sad that Parrow lost.
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I do because I really don't like Hitchens.
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I don't know why.
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Like there's nothing overly offensive about him.
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He's just boring.
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The actually that's a good way to put it.
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The way he fights, there's nothing overly offensive that's ever fucking happening when
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he fights.
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That's the fucking problem.
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That's also true.
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He acts like he's the like the baddest motherfucker alive and doesn't beat people up.
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And his job is to beat people up.
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Yeah, I'm really getting sick of these guys who are not going to be aggressive knockout
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guys saying that they're going to knock people out like Shakira Stevenson.
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You're a good boxer.
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Lean into that.
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Yeah, like own it.
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Purnell Whitaker never fucking said he was going to knock anyone out ever.
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And people love him.
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I hate when they pretend they're something they're not.
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Hitchens does that, but he's also just not as good a boxer either.
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Yeah.
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So the scores eight to four times two and fucking was the other one nine to three.
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The other way, though, right?
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Yes.
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The Liam Parra was the nine to three.
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I don't.
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How do you how the fuck that's that's crazy.
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How do you do that?
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How does that happen?
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Yeah, that's a bad scorecard.
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I hadn't really clocked that at the time.
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I didn't either.
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I was just upset about that Hitchens and I was I was saying in discord like, man, I would
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like to say like, fuck you, Richardson Hitchens.
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You're making me watch MMA instead.
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I would prefer to watch that over over you.
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That's boring.
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That's real boring.
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That is pretty bad.
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I would I tend to pick boxing like 99 cases out of 100, even no matter how awesome the
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MMA card might seem.
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I'll still watch boxing over it.
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But like, man, I stopped giving my full attention around like round seven or eight.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I tend to do that with Hitchens fights, too.
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I don't remember who it was, but somebody in discord was like switched over to after
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the Hitchens when switched over to the UFC fight just because everybody else was.
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We all were watching it together anyway, so might as well just to keep the combo going.
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And yeah, he was saying some shit like MMA so fucking boring.
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I hate it.
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They're laying on the ground together.
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This is why it's so stupid and I hate the sport.
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And my only it was just a really simple response.
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It was like you just watched all 12 rounds of Richardson Hitchens versus Liam Parrow.
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Shut the fuck up about boring.
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You said all of it by choice.
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You chose to do that.
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Yeah, that's a lot more time than fucking Richardson Hitchens deserves.
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Top rank in Phoenix.
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Steven Navarro, TKO to over Gabriel Cruz.
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Didn't see this one.
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Six round super flies, so art.
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Yeah, I don't remember the first few fights on this card.
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I know I watched them all, but they were kind of fast.
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Right.
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Art Barrera versus one Medina TKO to as well.
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Six round welters.
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Albert Gonzalez, UD over Gerardo Perez.
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Eight round super feathers.
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Oh, he's back, baby.
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Giovanni Santillan.
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The referee technical decision at the end of the first, typically the fighter doesn't
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want to continue from the corner.
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First Frederick Lawson.
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Ten round welters.
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Yeah, I was really confused when this was happening.
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I didn't understand exactly what was going on here for some reason or another.
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They didn't want to come back out.
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So they're yeah, but like there wasn't anything obvious to me.
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Right.
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It's not like there was a big factor or something.
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For some reason or another.
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Yeah.
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Lindolfo Delgado TKO five over Jackson Martinez.
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Ten round one forties.
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They're really pushing Delgado here.
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He's been stringing together some impressive wins, so he's going to start moving higher
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and higher up the bill.
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I don't mind that.
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He's exciting to watch.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how good he's going to get, but I'll watch it.
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Richard Torres TKO three over Isaac Gutierrez.
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What did you think of Richard's performance?
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I like Richard Torres, so I'm biased.
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I thought he looked good, but I also know he hasn't fought the best competition.
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You weren't impressed?
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No, it's not that.
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It's just like the ceiling is already apparent just because of the size disparity that he's
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going to be facing as he moves up the ranks.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's not usic.
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He's not going to be able to overcome being small, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't
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try.
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I just feel he would have more success.
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He could make cruiserweight like exciting.
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Another fighter in the mix there.
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It wouldn't overly surprise me if he does cut to cruiser once he is expected to move
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up in competition.
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It might just be he doesn't want to cut now.
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If you're beating up mid-level guys, might as well enjoy your tacos.
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Yeah, that's the bellwether for how your cut is going.
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How many tacos did you have?
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Yeah, not to be racist, I guess.
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I assume Richard Torres likes his tacos.
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He is from SoCal, if I'm not mistaken.
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Yeah, I think everybody down there likes their tacos.
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I don't know.
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I like Richard Torres.
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I also like his personality.
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I follow him on Instagram and stuff, and he's just kind of...
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How do I put it?
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Goofball?
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Yeah.
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Charming's not really the word I'm looking for.
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Otherwise, he seems like he'd be fun to have a beer with, down to earth, maybe.
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Every once in a while, he puts videos of him shittily playing a guitar and singing.
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I did like that he missed his tap recital for his boxing match.
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A tap recital?
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Yeah, his tap dancing club had a recital the night of this fight, so he couldn't participate.
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Sometimes he puts up his tap dancing videos as well on his Instagram.
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He's not that good, but it's super cute.
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Rafael Espinosa stops?
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Robesy Ramirez retains his WBO 126 belt.
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Robesy waved himself off?
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Was that...?
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Yeah, I didn't...
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This was a weird card for stoppages a couple times.
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Right?
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It was hard to tell what exactly happened.
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It wasn't until later, and I was pointing this out in Discord as well as we were trying
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to suss out what was going on, is that if you look at the way his eye looked, it was
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very reminiscent of broken orbital bones.
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The way that it swelled up just under the eye looked a lot like...
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Billy Joe Saunders, Gabe Rizzotto happened to him a lot, but that's how it looks.
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Yeah, and I never make fun of fighters for trying to protect their eyes.
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I mean, being half blind would suck.
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I don't think it's worth it.
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Everybody's always like, ah, you gotta die in the ring, and I'm like, no you don't.
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It's a job, guys.
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It's a dangerous job, but it's a job.
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Yeah, you lose an eye now, your earning potential is over completely.
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Yeah, and you lose an eye.
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It's also gonna be a problem in your everyday life.
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Well, it's because I hold my head at a 45 degree angle all the time.
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I'm gonna try to fit this one in.
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Speaking of 45 degree angles, Oscar Valdez's career going downward.
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This fight made me so sad.
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It was really sad.
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This was the proof that you can work hard and do everything right and put all of your
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effort into it and someone who's just naturally gifted will make you look stupid.
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Absolutely.
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Oscar clearly had been working his ass off on their strategy, which I don't think was
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a bad strategy.
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He stuck to the game plan.
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He was doing everything he was supposed to do.
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Navarrete looked like he wasn't even fucking trying, and he just beat the shit out of Oscar
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for six rounds.
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And I'm like, ah, this is so hard to watch because I like both of them.
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But Nav looked like he wasn't even fucking trying.
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Yeah, he definitely didn't seem to be working as hard as Oscar was.
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I like Navarrete, but half the time, and I'm sure he's not.
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I'm sure he is putting in a lot of effort in the ring.
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He just makes it look effortless.
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But he just looked like he was in there like, ah, I guess I gotta beat this guy up so I
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get my money.
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I don't think there's anything left that Oscar can really do after this.
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I don't know what else he can do.
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I like Oscar Valdez, and I don't think he's completely washed or anything.
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No, he's not.
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Like, I just, he can't beat Nav.
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He's in the hamper, I think.
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Yeah, maybe, but I'll still watch him.
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He's still exciting.
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I think he'll still beat a lot of people.
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I can't think of any names off the top of my head, but I don't think he should retire,
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necessarily.
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But he's never gonna beat Nav.
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I don't think it matters if they fight a hundred times.
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No.
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Valdez doesn't have the kind of power to bother Nav, kind of unfortunate that he can mong
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his way through it.
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Yeah, well, and just like, Nav's angles and shot selection are so fucking weird.
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I imagine you can't find sparring partners that can do that.
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I don't think so.
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I don't know, I feel so bad for Oscar.
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When they interviewed him afterwards, I knew I was gonna cry and I watched it anyways,
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and then I cried.
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He looked like he was about to.
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Man, talk about looking just completely defeated, morally and everything.
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I think he knew he did everything right.
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He did everything he was supposed to, and it still wasn't good enough.
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Yeah, that's why he was, that's why I think he was so dejected.
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It was like, man, I did fucking everything.
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Everything I could, and it's still not good enough.
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I can only really say to that is that regardless of the outcome, you still gave it your best
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effort.
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Yeah, nobody can say that he didn't try.
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Right.
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You didn't roll over and take it.
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Yeah, and like, Valdez has dog, but everybody already knew that.
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Like, he didn't have to prove that to anyone.
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So NAV, what are his options, really?
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Because Foster was there, I think they're gonna try to make that next, which is a very
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interesting style matchup.
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Yeah, I think NAV's hard to beat.
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I think they can match him up with pretty much anyone and he'll do fine.
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Kakachi holds IBF, and who the fuck?
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I'm trying to think of who has the WBA, because Boxwreck is fucking petty.
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Lamont Roach.
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That's right.
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He's fighting Tank.
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Yeah, I don't think that's gonna go well for Roach.
25:03
What can NAV versus Foster, I think that's really all they can make unless you move him
25:10
up to 135, which didn't go well the first time.
25:14
Yeah, I don't know.
25:16
That would be a unification, right?
25:18
NAV and Foster?
25:19
Yes.
25:20
I think that's a decent fight to make.
25:22
I think Navarrete takes that, personally.
25:24
Yeah, I agree.
25:26
I think he would.
25:27
Foster, same thing, he doesn't have the power to bother NAV, so he's just gonna do whatever
25:31
he wants.
25:32
Yeah, and Foster's got better movement, but Navarrete is gonna catch him eventually.
25:38
Right.
25:39
I think he is, maybe not.
25:40
I would think so.
25:42
That's what I would bet on.
25:44
I know I'm gonna watch both of these guys in their next fight.
25:47
For sure.
25:48
I like both these guys.
25:49
I was cheering for Valdez because he works harder, but I'm not mad that Navarrete won
25:55
again.
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Yeah, I was cheering for Valdez, he's from nearby me, so gotta do my best for the hometown
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guys.
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Anything more for the top rank card?
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Nah, I think that's good.
26:08
Alright, moving on, Wednesday, December 11th, matchroom in Queensland, Australia.
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Tyler Blizzard, UD over Chang Chang Young.
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That was bullshit.
26:21
Chang Chang won that fight, and a unanimous decision the other way?
26:27
I was pissed.
26:28
I can't remember who was watching it with me on Discord.
26:33
I think it might have been Zo.
26:35
Anyways, he was also like, oh, obviously Yang, and I was like, yeah, obviously, and then
26:40
they announced Tyler Blizzard, and I was like, fucking Australia.
26:45
Chang Chang weathered the storm.
26:50
Nice.
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Yeah.
26:56
Man, so Chang Chang's a journeyman, though, at seven.
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Yeah.
27:03
Seven and six, so I'm sure he knew what he was getting himself into.
27:06
Still.
27:07
Still, yeah.
27:09
Justice for Chang Chang.
27:10
Oh shit.
27:11
Moving up, Justice Hooney subs Leandro Rabuti.
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I did not find this one, so I couldn't see it.
27:17
But second round stoppage.
27:20
To be honest, I don't remember exactly how the stoppage went, but it was kind of a steam
27:27
rolled them.
27:28
That's the word I'm looking for.
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Yeah.
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Understandable with a TKO2 on here.
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Yeah, I think he had him in trouble in the first, and then in the second he kind of came
27:36
out and swarmed him.
27:38
And capping it off, Connor Wallace stops Acemal Whalem in the eighth.
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Those are light heavyweights.
27:46
I don't know, Australian guy.
27:49
They're trying to build up as the two titans battle it out.
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And there's going to be a power vacuum when they're done.
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All right.
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One more on the 11th Pro Box.
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They are starting to use prospect or contender series or whatever.
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Now I'm just going to cherry pick here.
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Dante Benjamin stops Aaron Casper in the first.
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Not sure how you punch a ghost, but there you go.
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Katsuma Akitsugi.
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Sixth round stoppage over Ashton Palite.
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I think it is.
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And yeah, I like this kid.
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They keep talking about how he has no power, but he stopped everybody's fought on Pro Box
28:37
now.
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Right.
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They've been really pointing that out a lot.
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Akitsugi's two and two, two fights, two knockouts for Pro Box.
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I think how did you put it?
28:48
They were like jerking him off or something.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They were really stroking his ego for sure.
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Yeah, but he is fun to watch.
28:58
It's death by a thousand cuts, all punches all the time until people get overwhelmed.
29:04
Best way to put it.
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I don't have much for these two.
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Luis Nunez, UD over Baez, get a new name, bitch.
29:14
And Jonathan Cardoso, UD over Eduardo Ramirez.
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That's Pro Box.
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If you're not watching Pro Box, you fucking should be.
29:23
It's free.
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It's free on YouTube.
29:26
No excuses.
29:28
Moving on December 12th.
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This one's was in Flint, Michigan.
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Just to to point out quickly, Joey Spencer majority decision over Miguel Hernandez and
29:38
Ardriel Holmes gets the UD over Edwine Humane.
29:43
Fun.
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That's at middle and super welterweight respectively.
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Party.
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I don't know any of these names.
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Just guys that are in the building phase, I'd say.
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OK.
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One other one.
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This one was in Toronto, Ontario.
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Nice.
29:59
Fucking only one I wanted to point out.
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Sukhdeep Singh Bhatti, 19 and 0, drops the ball to Uesma Lima.
30:09
That was a 12 rounder.
30:10
It's for the IBO belt.
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Yes.
30:13
But this is the type of win that's going to catapult someone into like the actual world
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title stage.
30:22
IBO is like the top rung of the secondary belts.
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He is from Angola.
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I don't think I have ever seen a fighter from Angola.
30:33
That's kind of cool.
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Only one I've ever seen is Manel Kopp over at UFC.
30:39
Nice.
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He's from Angola.
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But yeah, I just I like cheering for people from strange countries.
30:47
Not strange.
30:48
You know what I mean.
30:49
Uncommon.
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Yeah.
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I know what you meant.
30:52
I'm just going to let the comments tell Shenandoah how racist she is.
30:55
They do all the time on Discord.
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Just pour apart by using the wrong words.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Expect Lima to start entering the conversation at the top of 154.
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He's going to give people the beans.
31:12
I forgot about that.
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Do I get a sound effect?
31:20
Yeah, I'll find I'll put one together for that.
31:23
I forgot about it.
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All right.
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Friday, December 13th in the Chumash Casino in Santa Ines 360 promos.
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Carlos Balderas is the only one I really cared about gets the stoppage in six over Cesar
31:39
Villarraga.
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So that's fun.
31:42
Nice.
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Yeah.
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That's it for the recaps.
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So in our previews, there is not a whole lot.
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We're at the end of the year.
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So a lot of a lot of promotions and shit taking the time off because it's fucking Christmas,
31:56
Hanukkah, New Year, all that stuff.
31:58
So on the 21st, fucking King Dingellings, Usyk and Fury rematching for the still undisputed
32:08
in my heart heavyweight.
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Undisputed in everyone's heart.
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Yeah, that's such bullshit.
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Yep.
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Starting from the bottom, Johnny Fisher versus David Allen.
32:18
Is this the the Rhino guy?
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Yeah, this is the White Rhino.
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Right.
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White Rhino.
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I'm actually kind of excited for this one.
32:25
I think it's going to be the middest of heavyweight bullshit and it'll be a fun opening act.
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Yeah.
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Fisher's the guy that they're that's on the come up.
32:36
I think he bypassed the usual British like mid heavyweight route of the like the Pride
32:42
and Commonwealth Belts and all those other trinkets that they get.
32:47
Yeah.
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I mean, he didn't do any of the amateur and kind of work your way up stuff.
32:53
It seems like him and his dad just sell tickets to people.
32:57
That's why he keeps getting fights and getting put on cards.
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Like his dad sells 10,000 tickets personally.
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Or not 10,000, but like a thousand tickets personally.
33:08
And they've got like a shitty reality TV show type thing.
33:12
That's right.
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Somewhere.
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He's the boss guy.
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Yeah.
33:17
I forgot about that.
33:18
Anyways, I think Johnny Fisher is just more of a personality.
33:26
Like he's definitely a boxer and he definitely trades and stuff, but he's a personality.
33:32
And I have to admit it's kind of growing on me.
33:35
David Allen was kind of the same way.
33:37
I don't know if he came from like a entertainment background like Johnny Fisher has, but he's
33:43
made his way with the white rhino stick wearing like banana hammocks to weigh-ins.
33:49
Nice.
33:50
Yeah.
33:51
Nice.
33:52
I think one of them had a legit elephant trunk in front of it.
33:57
That's not a rhino hole, buddy, but okay.
34:01
That's kind of funny.
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Yeah.
34:03
Well, Fisher's last fight, he was the headline against Babbage.
34:06
Right.
34:07
Which was a fun fight.
34:08
I enjoyed it.
34:10
That must have been rough for all to have to pick between the son of Bosch or Babbage,
34:18
just like favorite.
34:19
Yeah.
34:20
It was hard for me to pick, to be honest.
34:23
I was actually cheering for Babbage, I'm not going to lie.
34:26
And I was disappointed.
34:27
Hmm.
34:28
I don't know if this works, but speaking of possible disappointments, Moses Itauna, another
34:34
British heavyweight climbing the ranks versus Dempsey McKee.
34:38
He's actually good though.
34:39
He's good.
34:40
Yeah, he's actually good.
34:42
I've seen the situation plenty of times though, where standout amateur, hot, coming in as
34:48
a prospect and has great performances to start, but coming up to a dude that's 22 and 1, it's
34:55
a bit of a step up and it's pretty quick.
34:57
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he does.
35:00
I think it'll be fine.
35:02
I'm still betting on Itauna to win, but I've been wrong many times.
35:08
I expect Itauna and Fischer are on a collision course.
35:12
Yeah, and in that fight, I think Itauna wins too.
35:16
Probably easily.
35:18
If what we see now is what we can expect, then yeah, shouldn't be too hard.
35:25
But a lot of people are really high on Itauna.
35:28
You should tune in early for this one.
35:30
I know the Saudi cards are fucking 10 hours long, but they put some fun fights at the
35:35
beginning this time.
35:36
Isaac Lowe vs Lee McGregor.
35:40
I don't know too much about either of them, so a Scott and a Brit beating each other up.
35:49
I'm going with the Scott.
35:50
It'll be fun.
35:51
Yeah, it should be a good time.
35:53
I think I've seen McGregor before, and I think he has a fucking terrible accent, and it's
35:58
great.
35:59
If you know what I mean.
36:00
He's super thick.
36:01
Like, you can't understand.
36:02
Yeah, he's from Edinburgh.
36:04
Anyways, I'm gonna watch all these fights, but I'm gonna cheer for McGregor.
36:11
Moving up.
36:12
Seems to be the underdog in this one, though.
36:15
Yeah, I mean, if you look just based on the records, he's the least lesser experienced.
36:20
So understandable why people would think that.
36:24
Why the betting lines would think that anyway.
36:27
Moving up, Andriy Novichki vs Edgar Ramirez WBC International Heavyweight Belt.
36:33
Hold on a second.
36:37
Mexican Heavyweight.
36:38
It's like a fucking unicorn.
36:42
Moving up, Daniel Lapine vs Dylan Collin 10 Round Light Heavies.
36:46
10 and 0 vs 14 and 0.
36:49
I expect these guys are known in the British realm of boxing, or the European realm, I should
36:56
say.
36:57
Being Polish and French.
37:00
French.
37:01
Well, guess we're cheering for Lapine.
37:04
Yeah.
37:05
God, vengeance.
37:06
The French guy looks French, too.
37:12
Moving up, this fight was...
37:14
Oh, right, this guy got replaced.
37:16
Sartre Bohochuk is now fighting Ishmael Davis in the 12.
37:20
I don't know who Ishmael Davis is, do you?
37:23
I don't think so.
37:26
No.
37:27
I've seen him fight Josh Kelly.
37:30
He is from Leeds, according to Boxrack.
37:36
I like Bohochuk.
37:37
I'm gonna be riding the Bohochuk truck.
37:40
Bo-ha truck?
37:41
Could that be the...
37:43
Bo-ha truck.
37:45
Yeah.
37:46
And Oleksandr Usyk, Tyson Fury, three of the four belts will be on the line.
37:52
And Usyk is gonna do it again.
37:54
He's gonna get the stoppage this time, though.
37:57
I'm calling it.
37:58
I hope so.
37:59
I think Nathan put it really well.
38:02
He said, like, this is probably the last chance that we have to really push for Ukraine on
38:12
the global stage, because who knows how things are gonna be going, you know, as certain changes
38:18
happen within the next four to six weeks.
38:21
Right.
38:22
So get behind Ukraine while you can.
38:24
Get yourself on the right side of history.
38:27
I was...
38:28
How do I put it?
38:29
I've been having trouble getting excited for this fight.
38:32
I'm not sure why.
38:33
Like, it's not the fight's fault.
38:35
It's a great fight, but I haven't been excited for it.
38:39
And yesterday was the Grand Arrivals, and I didn't watch the whole thing, but I've been
38:45
getting clips on Instagram.
38:47
Usyk learning English is the best thing that's ever fucking happened.
38:51
Usyk is hilarious, which I already knew, but him being able to be hilarious himself instead
38:57
of through a translator is great.
39:00
Yeah, he does seem like he was a fucking riot.
39:04
Like, he doesn't take everything too seriously.
39:07
Yeah, somebody was just yelling at him as he was walking around, like, this is just
39:12
an Instagram clip.
39:14
And they're like, if you could give Tyson a Christmas present, what would you give him?
39:18
And he thought about it for like two seconds.
39:21
It was super fast.
39:22
And he goes, a chocolate bunny.
39:27
And I thought it was hilarious.
39:29
That is fucking funny, look at that.
39:33
What?
39:34
Chocolate bunny.
39:35
Well, he's been calling him rabbit throughout the buildup, right?
39:43
Oh, I didn't know that.
39:45
Yeah.
39:46
All right.
39:47
So.
39:48
And he showed up in like a purple outfit that was kind of like the traditional dress that
39:57
he walked out in last time.
39:59
But it wasn't fancy like that.
40:02
And instead of having the shoulder piece be like real, it was it looked like a skinned
40:10
stuffed tiger with jewel eyes.
40:14
What?
40:15
What the hell is happening?
40:19
And the lady asked him, they're like, where did you find the tiger?
40:24
And he's like, maybe not tiger, maybe only kitty cat.
40:30
Yeah.
40:32
So I actually it's on my list of things to do to watch the actual grand arrivals and
40:36
stuff because Usyk was so goddamn funny.
40:40
Yeah.
40:41
He also sent a jab Fury's way.
40:45
They're like, Fury says he hasn't talked to his wife in three months.
40:48
Like what do you think about that?
40:50
And Usyk is like, I love my family.
40:53
I talk to my wife and kids every night.
40:57
It's important.
40:59
And he was just like, without saying taste and fury is a piece of shit that hates his
41:04
family.
41:05
It's definitely what he was saying.
41:08
So yeah, I probably would have I would have said the same thing.
41:12
Like, man, if I didn't talk to my family, I'd be like, I would be in the wrong headspace.
41:17
Yeah.
41:18
So a few times, I assume after that, he kept bringing up how important family is and how
41:25
how he talks to them all the time.
41:28
Man, the word on the I don't know if this how confirmed this is, but they were saying
41:35
that like, as Tyson was getting on the plane to leave for Saudi Arabia the first time,
41:41
he got a call from his wife or someone or like their doctor or something that she had
41:45
a miscarriage.
41:47
And yeah, I heard that rumor as well.
41:49
It was a complicated one.
41:51
And that messes with his headspace.
41:53
Like I can't imagine that somebody would just make that up.
41:57
It would be a very terrible thing.
41:58
That's extremely fucked up.
42:00
If you were to make I would sooner say like, yeah, I relapse.
42:04
I was a coke binging like every day.
42:07
Yeah.
42:08
No, hopefully, everything is fine this time.
42:13
There are no excuses.
42:15
And when Usyk knocks him out in round eight this time, because he knocked him out in round
42:21
nine last time, he did.
42:26
All the fury fanboys are going to have to eat shit because he is not as good as everybody
42:32
keeps saying he is.
42:33
I don't don't get the fury hype anymore.
42:37
He hasn't been as good as he was since like Wilder one.
42:43
I say Wilder two because that was dominance.
42:46
The first one was a back and forth affair.
42:48
Yeah.
42:49
Anyways, the the grand arrival clips have gotten me actually excited for this fight.
42:55
They are showing it in the bar in Tokyo, but I'm feeling lazy.
43:00
I think I'm just going to watch at home by myself.
43:02
Oh, shit.
43:03
I'm at midnight here and the projected walkout time for the main event is eight a.m.
43:10
Why?
43:11
Because if we give it how many fights are on the card is a six.
43:14
We give each one an hour, which is how typically how they allot the time.
43:20
So that's six hours.
43:21
And then we have a one hour Eminem concert and then Usyk and Fury.
43:28
Garbage.
43:29
I always say anytime there's a Saudi card, I always say Eminem concert when like there
43:34
was only an Eminem concert at the Bud Madriman because of Terrence Crawford.
43:39
He was the one that wanted him.
43:41
Well, they probably said that there had to be a concert.
43:45
I don't understand why there has to be a concert because they're assholes.
43:50
I did see that they lowered ticket prices to like basically free fifteen dollars or
43:55
something.
43:56
Thirty dollars.
43:57
Yeah.
43:58
I'll I'll buy 10 of them if you fucking get charter me a flight and yeah, they flight
44:06
in before the fight and then flight out immediately after not staying in Saudi.
44:12
Absolutely not.
44:13
Yeah.
44:14
I think I would end up in a lot of trouble if I ever went to Saudi.
44:18
Same.
44:19
That's why I don't want to go.
44:21
Man, if you were if you came into this fucking little chapter of ours expecting like in
44:27
depth analysis of Usyk or Fury, I'm not sorry to disappoint you.
44:33
But I don't expect this fight to go very differently than the first one, except it stops sooner.
44:38
I'm thinking seven or eight as well.
44:42
I don't know.
44:43
I'm not.
44:44
I'm having trouble getting excited for it because of that, because of how pretty clear
44:50
the win was the first time, despite what the cards might have said.
44:54
Yeah, I am excited for Usyk to prove that he is by far the best.
45:00
And I really hope after he wins, he retires.
45:02
Hopefully go out on top, go out undisputed.
45:06
I mean, it's not, but everybody knows and enjoy your life with your wife and children.
45:13
He said his youngest girl is just starting to talk.
45:16
Oh, that's just precious.
45:19
She is very feel.
45:24
I would suggest if I could, if Usyk like if you're going to take one bit of this away,
45:30
because I know you're there, friend of the show, but get the Klitschko brothers together
45:35
and say, what up bitches?
45:37
I got more belts.
45:39
I have more belts than both of you combined.
45:43
That would be funny.
45:44
So I usually do themed meals for big fights for myself when I stay at home.
45:52
And I cannot find pierogies in the store here, which I guess kind of makes sense.
45:58
But being from Western Canada, there's fucking frozen pierogies in the gas station.
46:05
Like it is the easiest thing to find pierogies.
46:08
Yeah.
46:09
And they are whole section of them in my grocery store.
46:13
Yeah.
46:15
But here it's all like Asian dumplings of different varieties, which totally makes sense.
46:21
Yeah, of course.
46:22
But pierogies are so much work to make.
46:24
I can't have pierogies and sausage for my fight night.
46:29
So anyways, I got to go buy some vodka.
46:31
Ukrainian vodka is easy to find.
46:33
I was going to say, like if you're going to do themed meals, I'm not sure how easy.
46:40
Right.
46:42
But the other one on the other hand.
46:52
Yeah.
46:53
It's not in Japan.
46:54
All right.
46:55
Out of time.
46:56
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So, heading into Usyk Fury weekend.
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Parting words.
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It is getting late, guys.
48:18
You should have your Christmas shopping done.
48:21
Don't leave it until the 23rd like my dad always does.
48:25
That's my words of advice.
48:26
I was gonna throw out, don't give into fucking blatant consumerism for this corporate holiday.
48:34
Oh, well, we have opposing messages.
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Yeah.
48:39
But I gave that one up a long time ago.
48:42
That's what I would usually say if this was like 10 years ago.
48:46
Now, I mean, like this is a good holiday.
48:49
Getting gifts is nice.
48:50
Right.
48:51
The cost of your gift doesn't matter.
48:52
And that's important to remember.
48:55
It's a family holiday.
48:56
You know, get your mom something nice.
48:59
Get your dad something or your brothers and sisters, whoever the fuck is important to
49:02
you.
49:03
And yeah.
49:04
Goddamn Canada Post is on strike.
49:07
I sent my shit the first week of November and nobody has gotten anything.
49:12
Damn.
49:13
Yeah.
49:14
Bullshit.
49:15
Fuck Canada Post and finish your Christmas shopping.
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Yeah.
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It helps.
49:40
Other than that, Usyk, Down with the Furies, all of the Furies out of boxing.
49:46
2025.
49:47
That's all I got.
49:49
All right.
49:50
We're out of here.
49:51
Bye.