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Chinese and Cuban Communists FUNDING Anti-Israel Protests · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. The left has been obsessed for years about
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  Speaker 2: foreign interference in this country and obviously in elections, and
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  Speaker 2: they went with all the big Russia hoaks with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But now we have a story with two major countries
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  Speaker 2: that are having significant influence in America right now and
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  Speaker 2: no one's talking about it much.
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  Speaker 3: Let's cover it well, Ben, That's right, and what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about in today's podcast is something that
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  Speaker 3: you will not see on the news that is not
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  Speaker 3: getting covered anywhere, which is the direct involvement of communist
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  Speaker 3: China and communist Cuba in the anti Israel, anti Semitic,
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  Speaker 3: anti American protests that are happening across this country. And
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  Speaker 3: this is look that there have been two reports that
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  Speaker 3: have come out in the last week that are tracing
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  Speaker 3: the money from communist China, the act divist from communist
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  Speaker 3: Cuba that are driving this, and again the media is
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  Speaker 3: ignoring it. It's why this podcast matters because we're going
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  Speaker 3: to cover and lay out the evidence that is going
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  Speaker 3: to trouble you deeply that America's enemies want this country
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  Speaker 3: ripped apart, and they are funding the mayhem we are
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  Speaker 3: seeing on our college campuses. They are trying to destroy
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  Speaker 3: this country, and sadly, there are a whole lot of
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  Speaker 3: elected Democrats in Washington who are on board with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the worst part is they probably think they're
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  Speaker 2: about the bigger overview picture. We have known for quite
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  Speaker 2: some time, but it's really come out recently that there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of money coming in from foreign nations
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  Speaker 2: that are advisaris US into college campuses. We now see
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  Speaker 2: what they were buying, which was they were buying influence
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  Speaker 2: over a generation. We see massive donations that went into
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  Speaker 2: the Biden Pen Center for example, directly from China, and
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  Speaker 2: now we're saying that it's not just buying influence to
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  Speaker 2: change hearts and minds of college students at the ivy
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  Speaker 2: leagues and other schools. But now they moved into direct
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  Speaker 2: activism with these campus protests, which seems to be phase
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  Speaker 2: two of their plan.
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  Speaker 3: Ben that's exactly right. There's a major report that came
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  Speaker 3: out on Monday this week from NCRI. NCRI is the
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  Speaker 3: Network Contagion Research Institute. This is the same group that
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  Speaker 3: put out the empirical studies of TikTok and how the
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  Speaker 3: Chinese Communist government was pushing communist propaganda on TikTok and
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  Speaker 3: it led to ultimately Congress passing the legislation forcing the
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  Speaker 3: Chinese Communist government either to sell TikTok or shut down
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  Speaker 3: in the US. So NCRA is NCRI rather, there's a
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  Speaker 3: serious organization that does serious research. The report they put out,
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  Speaker 3: I want to go into it in detail because getting
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  Speaker 3: very little coverage and it should get a lot of coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Here's how it begins.
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  Speaker 1: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: This report analyzes the activities and foreign connections of the
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  Speaker 3: Shut It Down for Palestine SID four P movement since
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  Speaker 3: its formation in October twenty twenty three. It examines SID
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  Speaker 3: four p's use of protests, direct action initiatives, and sophisticated
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  Speaker 3: media camp to advance anti America and anti Israel narratives
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  Speaker 3: both online and offline. Additionally, it highlights the involvement of
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  Speaker 3: a network link to the Chinese Communist Party that funds
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  Speaker 3: and supports both alternative, anti establishing media organizations promoting anti
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  Speaker 3: American initiatives, as well as seemingly grassroots activist movements such
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  Speaker 3: as including SID four P. So here are the key
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  Speaker 3: takeaways and assessments. Number one SID four p's emergence. Shut
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  Speaker 3: It Down for Palestine is an anti capitalist, anti police,
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  Speaker 3: and anti government protest movement that emerged after October seventh,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. It functions as a hybrid online real
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  Speaker 3: world network for mobilizing frequent demonstrations as well as a
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  Speaker 3: gradually escal escalating direct action campaigns targeting critical infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: And public spaces. Two.
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  Speaker 3: SID four p's ties to CCP linked entities, conveners or
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  Speaker 3: organizations operating under the SID four P umbrella are members
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  Speaker 3: of the Singham Network donor portfolio. The Singham Network is
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  Speaker 3: a global network global web of nonprofits fiscal sponsors and
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  Speaker 3: alternative news sources tied to Neville Roy Singham, a known
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  Speaker 3: conduit for CCP geopolitical influence.
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  Speaker 1: Three.
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  Speaker 3: SID four p's funding. The Singham Network exploits regulatory loopholes
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  Speaker 3: in the US nonprofit system to facilitate the flow of
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  Speaker 3: enormous sum of US dollars to organizations and movements that
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  Speaker 3: actively stoke social unrest at the grassroots level. Four Alternative
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  Speaker 3: media and social media strategy. Alternative media outlets associated with
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  Speaker 3: Singham Network have played a central role in online mobilization
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  Speaker 3: and cross play platform social amplification for SID four P
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  Speaker 3: and five ties to extremist groups. SID four P has
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  Speaker 3: ties to extremist groups that embrace a violent single state
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  Speaker 3: resolution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. At least one SID
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  Speaker 3: four P convener is linked to the extreme edge of
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  Speaker 3: pro Palestinian groups operating in the US that advance anti
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  Speaker 3: American and anti Jewish agendas.
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  Speaker 2: This is next level, and it's obviously being orchestrated at
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  Speaker 2: the highest levels within these governments. And it's not just China,
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  Speaker 2: it's also Cuba that is involved in this as well.
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  Speaker 2: And this seems to be part two of their master plan.
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  Speaker 2: China and I'm guessing on this one, but based on
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  Speaker 2: what we've seen from disclosures on donations, probably is giving
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  Speaker 2: more money to American universities than any other nation would
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  Speaker 2: be my guess. They're not the top. They're probably one,
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  Speaker 2: two or three. I can't even imagine who would be
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  Speaker 2: above them. We see massive money coming into the Ivy League's,
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  Speaker 2: massive money that came in the Biden pen Center.
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  Speaker 1: The list goes on and on.
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  Speaker 2: But this is almost like, Okay, how do we infiltrate
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  Speaker 2: a country, how do we change the opinion of the
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  Speaker 2: people in that country, and then how do we have
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  Speaker 2: literally have revolutions in that country? And they're doing it
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  Speaker 2: all in front of our very eyes and no one
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  Speaker 2: seems to be stopping it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that that is right, And if you look at
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  Speaker 3: this report from NCRI, it details how China is spending
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  Speaker 3: millions upwards up potentially one hundred million dollars funding these
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  Speaker 3: protests that are occurring on campuses, that are shutting down bridges,
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  Speaker 3: that are shutting down airports. And you might think, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what does China care about Hamas? What does China care
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  Speaker 3: about Israel? And the truth of the matter, is they don't,
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  Speaker 3: But they care about America. They care about tearing our
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  Speaker 3: country apart. They care about chaos and and fomenting dissent
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  Speaker 3: and dissension that paralyzes our country. Let me read another
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  Speaker 3: portion from this report from the NCRI.
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  Speaker 1: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: On the evening of April thirtieth, twenty twenty four, over
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  Speaker 3: one hundred activists gathered at the People's Forum, a far
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  Speaker 3: left nonprofit in Manhattan that describes itself as a quote
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  Speaker 3: movement incubator for working class and marginalized communities, to discuss
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  Speaker 3: the ongoing gaza encampments on university campuses. The activists called
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  Speaker 3: on Columbia protesters to recreate the civil unrest associated with
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  Speaker 3: quote the Summer of twenty twenty remember the Summer of Love.
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  Speaker 3: Hours later, Columbia University's Hamilton Hall was forcibly occupied and barricaded.
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  Speaker 3: After the hall was subsequently cleared by law enforcement, the
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  Speaker 3: New York Police Department reported finding industrial grade chains, gas masks, earplugs, helmets, goggles, hammers, knives,
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  Speaker 3: and ropes. Following processing. The w Washington Post reported per
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  Speaker 3: NYPD that more than twenty five percent of the arrest
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  Speaker 3: at Columbia University and sixty percent at the City College
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  Speaker 3: of New York were not students. This is communist China
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  Speaker 3: paying real money to disrupt America and to sow dissension.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, this group of conveners, I'll read
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  Speaker 3: another portion of the report. SID four P was established
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  Speaker 3: and structured against the backdrop of increased pro Palestinian activism
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  Speaker 3: starting October twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: On November first.
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  Speaker 3: SID four P officially registered its domain shut it down
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  Speaker 3: for Palestine dot org and launched its site by November sixth.
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  Speaker 3: By November ninth, SID four P publicly list its seven
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  Speaker 3: core organizations referred to as conveners, as well as numerous
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  Speaker 3: organizations referred to as endorsers, reflecting the confluence of far
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  Speaker 3: left and pro Palestinian radical activism. The official SID four
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  Speaker 3: P conveners include the following groups. One The People's Forum,
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  Speaker 3: two Answer Coalition, three the International People's Assembly, four al
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  Speaker 3: Ada New York, five the National Students for Justice in
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  Speaker 3: Palestine NSJP, six the Palestinian Youth Movement, and seven the
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian American Community Center, New Jersey. The seven conveners of
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  Speaker 3: SID four P can be divided into two distinct groupings
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  Speaker 3: based on ideological affiliation and fiscal sponsorship. The coalition's far
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  Speaker 3: left members, namely the People's Forum IPA and Answer Coalition
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  Speaker 3: demonstrates significant financial, personnel, and operational overlap. The remaining four
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  Speaker 3: conveners are all pro Palestinian activist organizations, with at least
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  Speaker 3: two NSJP and al Adwa known to have ties to
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  Speaker 3: US designated terrorist organizations. In addition to NSJP and al ADA,
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  Speaker 3: among SI D four p's endorsers is Submuduan, which some
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  Speaker 3: Western intelligence services classify as a front for the PFLP,
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  Speaker 3: the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which is
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  Speaker 3: designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the United States, Germany,
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  Speaker 3: and Israel.
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  Speaker 2: So the question that everyone I think that's listening right
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  Speaker 2: now is asking is how is this then legal? And
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  Speaker 2: if there's direct ties that are going back to terrorism,
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  Speaker 2: how is again this legal? And if foreign finds are
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  Speaker 2: coming in from our adversaries to pay and fund this
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  Speaker 2: anarchists on collage campuses, how is that legal? Is there
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  Speaker 2: anything that the government can do to say we're allow
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  Speaker 2: this to happen and we're talking about the finances of.
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  Speaker 3: This, well, look, there should be an enormous amount the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Justice should be investigating this. The FBI should
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  Speaker 3: be investigating this. We've got money coming from communist China
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  Speaker 3: behind these protests, behind these anti American anti protests, We've
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  Speaker 3: got money coming from organizations that have close ties to
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  Speaker 3: designated terrorist organizations. And so whether it is Hamas and
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  Speaker 3: Hesbela pushing this, whether it is affiliated allies of their
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  Speaker 3: pushing this, whether it is a Ran pushing this, or
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  Speaker 3: whether it is Communist China pushing this, the FBI ought
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  Speaker 3: to be all over it. And I got to tell you, Ben,
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  Speaker 3: my level of confidence that the FBI and the Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice is even looking at this is incredibly low, because, sadly,
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  Speaker 3: this Biden Department of Justice is so politicized that they're
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  Speaker 3: much more interested in tracking down some little old lady
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  Speaker 3: on the National Mall on January sixth who was waving
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  Speaker 3: an American flag and seeing God bless America and finding
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  Speaker 3: every Facebook post she put twenty years ago than they
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  Speaker 3: are actually interested in finding Communist China spending millions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars trying to rip America apart.
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  Speaker 2: And Senator look, education and quality education and going to
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  Speaker 2: a prestigious school was something that you worked incredibly hard for.
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  Speaker 2: But you now look at what's happened at our colleges,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm talking about it our quote best colleges.
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  Speaker 1: How much of.
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  Speaker 2: Now what we're witnessing with them tolerating all of these
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  Speaker 2: protests the way that they did in the presence is
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  Speaker 2: because maybe they can't say no to the foreign cash
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  Speaker 2: and the amount of foreign cash and therefore foreign influence
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  Speaker 2: it's coming in from these same countries.
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  Speaker 3: Look, the foreign cash is enormous problem. And let me
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  Speaker 3: give you Let's look at the IVY League. So the
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  Speaker 3: IVY League eight colleges have historically been among the very
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  Speaker 3: best colleges in America. I want us to look at
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  Speaker 3: the percentage of foreign students in the IVY League. So
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  Speaker 3: Brown University, what percent of foreign students do you think
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  Speaker 3: are at Brown?
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be twenty percent plus. I would guess
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  Speaker 1: nineteen percent.
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  Speaker 3: You're off by point. Okay, how many students two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and ninety eight Columbia University. What do you think the
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  Speaker 3: percentage is at Columbia? Twenty five thirty thirty eight percent.
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  Speaker 3: You want to know how many students that is? Fourteen
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  Speaker 3: thousand and eighty eight, fourteen thousand foreign students Cornell University
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  Speaker 3: twenty six percent, Dartmouth College seventeen percent, Harvard University twenty
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  Speaker 3: two percent, Princeton University, Mi alma mater twenty three percent,
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  Speaker 3: University of Pennsylvania twenty three percent, Yale University twenty four percent.
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  Speaker 3: We are talking about thousands and thousands and tens of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of foreign students. Now, part of the reason the
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  Speaker 3: university's like this is because the foreign students all pay
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  Speaker 3: full freight, so it's a great money making endeavor. But
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  Speaker 3: why exactly are we educating people who among them and
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  Speaker 3: not all of the foreign students are that case. Look,
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  Speaker 3: my best friend in college who you know well, David
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  Speaker 3: Panton was Jamaica. He was a foreign student. He came
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  Speaker 3: from Jamaica. He arrived at Princeton at sixteen. He was
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  Speaker 3: the best man at my wedding. He has been other
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  Speaker 3: than high Dy, my best friend in life. He was
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  Speaker 3: a Ford and student. That was great. That's very different
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  Speaker 3: a Jamaican kid who's talented and wants to go go
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  Speaker 3: get a good education, or for that matter, my dad
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty seven, coming as a student from Cuba
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  Speaker 3: to the University of Texas, he came on a student visa.
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  Speaker 3: He came fleeing oppression. He'd been in prison, he'd been tortured,
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  Speaker 3: but he was coming seeking freedom. That is very different
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  Speaker 3: from bringing in a bunch of radical anti America, anti
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  Speaker 3: discretionary choice if they are going to tear down this country.
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  Speaker 3: And part of the problem with the Ivy League schools
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  Speaker 3: is when you're looking at anywhere from seventeen percent Dartmouth
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  Speaker 2: in this report, but there's also another warning that has
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  Speaker 2: come out. And this time and you just mentioned it,
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  Speaker 2: your dad fled from Cuba. There was a Wall Street
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  Speaker 2: Journal report that has come out about how Cuba is
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  Speaker 2: also fueling the campus protests. They're getting in on this,
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  Speaker 2: and look, let's be honest, they don't have as much
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  Speaker 2: money to spend is China, and yet they see this
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  Speaker 2: as that valuable for disruption in America.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. So just a couple of days ago,
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  Speaker 3: there was an op ed in the Wall Street Journal.
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  Speaker 3: It was entitled how Cuba fuels the campus protests. Some
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  Speaker 3: of the outside agitators against Israel are Havana's fellow travelers.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to again focus on this because again
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  Speaker 3: this has gotten very little attention other than this journal article,
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  Speaker 3: very few other media outlets it picked it up but
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  Speaker 3: here's how it starts. There's a dog bites man quality
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  Speaker 3: to the news reports that recent campus chaos and support
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  Speaker 3: of Hamas is the work of well funded revolutionary groups
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  Speaker 3: out to destabilize the US. Even less surprising is the
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  Speaker 3: charge that quote outside agitators is New York Mayor Eric
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  Speaker 3: Adams's term. The groups share an ideology with the Cuban
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  Speaker 3: military dictatorship and in some cases have attained practical support
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  Speaker 3: from Havana. And it continues. For decades, Cuba has spent
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  Speaker 3: enormous resources burrowing into America's educational, diplomatic, and political circles
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  Speaker 3: in an effort to topple our democratic republic. This truth
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  Speaker 3: was obscured during the Obama administration when Ben Rhodes, struggling
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: creative writer turned national security guru, shaped US policy to
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: profess that Cuba is no longer a threat. Who can
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: forget the photograph iconic for the American left of Raoul
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Castro raising the arm of a limp wristed President Obama
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. The article continues to describe a vocal
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: advocate of the recent Haydiens in New York is Manolo
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Delos Santos. The New York Post describes the thirty five
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: year old as quote the leader and de facto mouthpiece
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: for the Peace People's Forum. Remember we talked about the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: People's Forum a minute ago. That China's helping fund as
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: well a radical anti Israel group that encouraged the takeover
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: of Hamilton Hall at Columbia University. Born in the Dominican Republic,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: mister Della Santos moved to the US at five, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: seems to have spent time in Cuba beginning in two
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: thousand and six. In May of twenty twenty three, mister
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Della Santos tweeted a photo of himself with Cuban dictator
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Miguel Diaz Canal on the island. He wrote that he
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: was quote leaving Cube after ten days learning with its
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: people and with mister Diaz Canal.
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  Speaker 1: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: Young people in the US have great tasks ahead of them,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: he explained. In September twenty twenty three, mister Della Santos
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: was photographed with the Cuban dictator in New York during
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the week of the UN General Assembly meeting. Quote welcome,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: dear comrade, mister Delos Santos tweeted, So this guy's a communist.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And here's what the Wall Street Journal continues to say.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: It isn't clear if mister Della Santos was on the
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Columbia campus, but hours before Prohamas activist took over Hamilton Hall,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: he gave a rousing speech to a volunteer meeting at
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the People's Forum offices in Manhattan, where he quote urged
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the group to quote give Joe Biden a hot summer
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and quote make it untenable for the politics as usual
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to take place in this country. On May seventh, mister
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Della Santos was detained by the New York Police Department
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: for his role in a traffic blocking march. It was
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: in his first brush.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: With the law.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: The Post is reported that he was also arrested by
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the NYPD on January twenty seventh, during a day of
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Prohamas activism, and the journal concludes with the following. In
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: a twenty fourteen unclassified report Cuban intelligence targeting of Academia,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: the FBI said that schools, colleges, universities, and research institutes
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: are a quote fertile environment for foreign intelligence quote. The
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Cuban intelligence services are known own to actively target the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: US academic world for the purposes of recruiting agents in
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: order to both obtain useful information and conduct influence activities. Well,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you know what, We're seeing those influence activities every day
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: on campuses across the country.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So is there anything that Congress can do? I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you're hearing this, everyone's hearing this. Now you mentioned it earlier.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Can you ask the FBI director? Can you call on
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: them to take action here and to look into this?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Or is this just a Hey, they're on our side
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: as the Democratic Party, the socialists and the Marxist and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the communists within the Democratic Party, we don't care because
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we want their influence and we want their money.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So yes, I've called on the Biden administration to do this.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I've called on the IRS. I've called on the FBI
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: many many of these organizations that are pushing these protests
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: or five to one C three's, which is supposed to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: be tax examp. They're supposed to be not engaging in
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: political activity. So I've called on the IRS to investigate
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: that already. Look, in a sane world, the FBI would
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: be examining this closely. We watched during the Trump presidency
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the whole Russia RUSSA Russia nonsense, which was totally made up.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: It was based on Hillary Clinton campaign OPO research, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: it became the obsession number one of the deep state
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: and number two now of the Biden administration. And yet
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I have no indication that the Department of Justice is
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: doing anything to examine this. I have no indication that
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the FBI, and by the way, the FBI are to
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: announce they are investigating this. If they were doing it,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: they shouldn't keep it a secret. They should make absolutely
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: clear that what is happening on these campuses is deeply
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: concerning and they're going to get to the bottom of
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: who's funding it. But they're not doing that, and I
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: don't believe they will because many of the funders, in
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: addition to being the Chinese communists and the Cuban communists,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: many of the funders are also the top for the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Democrat Party. And this Department of Justice operates as an
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: adjunct to the White House. It is a Democrat enforcement bureau,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: which means I don't think they're going to go after
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the top funders of the Democrat Party because you know
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: what their objective is to re elect Joe Biden and
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: so stopping foreign communist governments from fomenting dissent, protecting Jewish
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: students on campus, preventing our universities from being ripped apart,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: preventing airports from being shut down, preventing freeways from being
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: shut down. Remember, these are the same people who during
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the quote Summer of Love, the deep state didn't want
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: to do anything, and so I don't believe the Biden
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: administration is going to do a damn thing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: You mentioned something that we talked about. It jogging my
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: memory from maybe in two or three episodes ago where
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: we were talking about it was very clear that the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: same people in this country that are funding Joe Biden's
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: reelect for president are the exact same people that are
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: funding the camp rioters. And so you combine that right
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: with now the foreign money. This is a hell of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of influence center over the United States of
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: America and young people, and it's is it being orchestrated
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: by the foreigners or is this being orchestrated by the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Biden administration?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: In essence, yes, Look, understand, this is not organic, This
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: is not occurring spontaneously. This is highly organized. There's a
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: reason why all of these activists have the same damn
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: tints because the groups that are pushing this sent out
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: links to the same Amazon link to buy the tents.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And they are being funded. They're being funded number one
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: by radical left is, they're being funded by anarchists. They're
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: being funded by communists. And I don't use communists as
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: a pejorative, as just an insult. I mean people who
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: embrace communism. And as we're laying out here, it's not
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just American communists, of which there are sadly far too many.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: It is Chinese communists, the Chinese Communist Party, it is
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Cuban communists, and they see this as a vulnerability in America,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a way to tear us apart. Look you look at
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: a place we were talking about elite institutions. You look
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: at a place like Duke University, Ben How the hell
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: is Jerry Seinfeld now too controversial of a speaker for
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: campus leftists. We saw a Duke's commencement, oh about fifty
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: anti Semitic leftist storm out. And by the way, Seinfeld
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: was not giving a speech about Israel. He was not
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: talking he happens to support Israel. They simply said, damn it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I will not listen to a Jew. I am such
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: a bigot. If you invited Jew to speak to me,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I will walk out ostentatiously. You look at the recent
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: graduation at Columbia where you had these nitwits walking up
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and ripping their diploma in half, and I mean they
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: are angry. They are bigoted on the left. Being a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: bigot Hating Jews is accepted on the left. Now that
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: is an acceptable bigotry.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand why these universities.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's just because I'm old school and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: think you would agree with me if if back when
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I was in school, if you ripped up your diploma
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: when you were walking across the stage, they probably would
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: have just taken away from me and said you didn't graduate.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's an interesting question. Consequences is what I'm saying. Probably,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I will say, I'm not sure you could do that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: You might actually have a breach of contract claim if
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you have actually paid your tuition and pastor your classes.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure they could revoke your diploma at that point,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: but you know what they could certainly print on your transcript.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Ben Ferguson is embarrassed to have graduated from ole Miss
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and tore up his diploma. You should know that if
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you're thinking of hiring it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and the and yet all these universities
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: seem to know it's going to happen.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: And his tennis serve as like a little girl. Would
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: that be bad if thee that I transculd.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Sue them for that that, I would sue them for
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the other part. I don't know about care, but I'd
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: sue them for that because I make that is a
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: lie and I'm gonna get paid.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's actually not accurate, Ben, because a little girl could
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: serve and get it in.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Listen to you. Listen to you all right next time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: The sad thing is I'm gonna come back with a reporter.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: You're on verdict.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: The sad thing is I have such empty boasts because
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you you so utterly destroyed me in tennis. It's not
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: even close, but I'm talking smack and on this it
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: is empty. I will readily admit. But if you do this,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: but you know what I can. I can take you
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: at hoops. That's true. No, No, you've got game, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: said the first time we played oops. I was like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: all right, he's got some GAMEZ is like, does he
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: really have game?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And I was like, for people that are listening. Diaz
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: is our producer that does the show. And so Diaz like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: does he can he actually shoot? And I'm like, he
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: actually can? He was like really, I was a kiss.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: He actually scores like a lot.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Now I will say, look, you've got size. You can
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: post up on me one on one if you actually
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: he turned around and put your ass towards the basket
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: and backed up on me. I'm not sure I could
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: push you out because you're a big guy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: No, In fact, we might need to make that happen.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to do it like now,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: because you do. I do end up breaking bones when
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I play, so you know I might. I might to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be clear, to be clear who's bones it was mine?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Mine broke.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I just have to clarify that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me out of tennis for the longest
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of my whole life.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I finally got to.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Play today because of this this stupid pinky that swells
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it is like the size of a baseball. Right now,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking workers comp here. At some point that'll be
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: my lawsuit. But the final question for you on on
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: what we just exposed, what is it that people need
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to do with this information, and it is this just
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: more of a Hey, if you've got a kid or
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a grandkid that is looking at where they're going to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: be going to college is part of this, pay attention
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to what they're doing to your kid's mind. And don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just assume that because your kid gets into quote a
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: prestigious university, that's.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: The right decision to send them there.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Look, that's a hard choice. And I will say parents,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: particularly parents with high school and college aged kids, it's
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: a really hard choice. My view has long been that
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a kid should go to the best school they can
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: get into. And it does open doors, it opens career doors,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: it's beneficial. I will say, the more radicalized these places get,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the less convinced I am. That make sense. I will
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: say I saw an article recently talking about how many
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: top high school graduates are now looking at schools in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the South by the way. You know, it's easy, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: we talked about this in a prior podcast. You know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: it's easy to say, oh, all colleges are just crazy
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and this is just a problem across the country. No,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that's not true. This is a problem in Blue states.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: This is a problem at Columbia, at NYU, at Yale,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: at Harvard. This is a problem at Princeton. This is
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a problem at UCLA, This is a problem at UC Berkeley.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: This is a problem at usc This is the problem
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: at the University of Washington. This is a problem in
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: blue states. Why is it a problem in blue states?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Because you have Democrats who will not stand up against it,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: who will not protect you ash students, who will not
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: oppose anti Semitism, who will not lock up protesters, who
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: will not stop pro Hamas protesters, who will not stop
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: threats of violence. These are the same people that were
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: utterly powerless in the so called Summer of Love and
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: let anarchists take over portions of major cities in America.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: These are the same people who allowed Black Lives Matter
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and ANTIFA protesters to fire bomb police cars, to loot stores,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: to commit crimes. We're not seeing this in red states. Look,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you and I both live in Texas. At UT there
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: were protests. You know what they did. They sent in
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the police and if you committed threats of violence, you
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: got arrested, and miraculously you didn't have the garbage you
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: had at these other schools. Look at places, whether University
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: of North Carolina or other southern schools, they don't have
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: the problems Florida. Look Florida and Texas. Listen, you and
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I both have a lot of very close Jewish friends.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: They're not living in fear in Texas. They're not living
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: in fear in in in Florida. But you know what,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: they are living in fear in New York and New
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Jersey and Connecticut, in California. And ideology has consequences. If
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: you have leftists who embrace cultural Marxism, who believe Jews
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: are oppressors, you know what, they're not going to oppress
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Jewish students. And that is that is sadly where today's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: radicalized Democrat party is.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be interesting to see how much now,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: especially with a lot of people that graduated from universities.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: You're Alma Monder and others at Columbia taking us in
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: said I'm not giving you any more money. We've seen
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Robert Kraft and others say we're not sending any more
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: cash to you in many of these Ivy League universities.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And so will that force them to take even more
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: of this foreign money and the foreign influence that comes
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: with it. That that may be one of the shocking
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: parts of this entire conversation that we're having right now.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think there are a lot
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: of lums, alums who are deeply concerned about where the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: institution they went to school are I think there are
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of parents that are deeply worried about do
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: they keep sending their students to these schools. I think
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: there are already lawsuits and then there's going to be
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: a lot more lawsuits about breach of contract. You pay
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: a school a half million dollars and they shut down,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: They don't teach in person, they send people at home,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: they cancel your commencement. They say, oh, we're not actually
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: going to do what you paid us to do, which
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: is teach your kids. And by the way, we're not
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: going to protect your students. If your student happens to
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: wear a yamica, you know what, they need to be
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: prepared to be screamed at, cursed at, and be physically
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: threatened with violence. That is a a violation of federal
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: civil rights law. And by the way, where is the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Biden administration? Why are they not enforcing federal civil rights law?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Look?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I looked at Dwight D. Eisenhower Republican president who when
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: you had a bunch of Democrat bigots, and I'll point
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: out it was Democrat bigots in the fifties and sixties
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: too who were refusing to allow schools to be in
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: and they were persecuting African American students. And these Democrat
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: bigot politicians, we're doing that and Dwight the Eisenhower sent
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: in the National Guard. What has Joe Biden done Absolutely
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: nothing because his sympathies, he wants the votes of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: anti Semis who are protesting. And you know, his administration
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: also seems to have a zero concern about the Chinese
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: communist money and the Cuban communist money and supporters behind this.
• 35:29
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• 35:31
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• 35:45
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• 35:46
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• 35:47
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