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2A ALERT: RINO GOP SEN. Toomey says "My Hope Is We’ll Get Half of Senate Republicans to Vote for Gun Deal" · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, So let me just start off by saying
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Speaker 1: something extremely important. Number One, you need to listen to
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Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you, because there's a very
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Speaker 1: good chance that the Democrats now have the votes needed
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Speaker 1: to ban assault weapons quote unquote in the Senate. There
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Speaker 1: has been some leagues that have come out from some
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Speaker 1: Senate members who now say they are extremely worried that
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Speaker 1: the votes are there for gun control measures that would
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Speaker 1: six seven five one twenty two eighteen. Now this started
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Speaker 1: to break Sunday morning when Republican Senator to me went
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Speaker 1: on TV and said something that started to make massive
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Speaker 1: waves through the inner workings of Washing INDC. That is
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Speaker 1: when my phone started blowing up. I knew that there
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Speaker 1: was some legitimacy to this when I started getting phone
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Speaker 1: calls from people in the gun industry, including those with
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Speaker 1: advocacy groups, who are asking me what I've been what
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Speaker 1: I've been hearing from different senators and congressmen that I'm
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Speaker 1: close to. I then started making phone calls. Many of
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Speaker 1: them were shocked at how quickly apparently some Republicans have
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Speaker 1: started to cave on this issue of gun control because
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Speaker 1: they believe now that your Second Amendment right is not absolute,
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Speaker 1: which is one of the talking points that Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: has been using over and over again. When we had
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Speaker 1: this mass shooting in Texas and also the one in Buffalo.
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Speaker 1: He has lied to the American people saying, for example,
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Speaker 1: you couldn't own a cannon when the Second Amendment was written.
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Speaker 1: That is also a lie, a lie that the fact
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Speaker 1: checkers have checked, and he keeps telling that lie. Then
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Speaker 1: he want to step further this week, and many people
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Speaker 1: were scratching their heads and asking themselves this important question.
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Speaker 1: Why did Joe Biden start attacking nine millimeter weapons? He
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Speaker 1: said that a nine millimeter would quote blow your lungs
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Speaker 1: out of your body if you're shot with it. That's
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Speaker 1: a lie. It is because apparently they had been doing
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Speaker 1: some vote counting in DC and they realize that they
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Speaker 1: have possibly as many as half of the Republicans in
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Speaker 1: the Senate that are willing to work with the Democrats
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Speaker 1: on gun control. Now, you may not realize how these
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Speaker 1: votes work. So I'm going to get down into the minutian.
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Speaker 1: I will say it again please share our podcast with
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Speaker 1: your family and friends, because this is when you need
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Speaker 1: to get loud. This is when you need to be
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Speaker 1: calling your congressman and your sentator. Do not take them
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Speaker 1: for granted if they have an RNX to their name.
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Speaker 1: What has happened so far is there apparently has not
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Speaker 1: been any basically advocacy going on in Washington for the
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Speaker 1: Second Amendment for the right to bear arms. They now
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Speaker 1: believe that the support of the Second Amendment is wavering
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Speaker 1: when it comes to quote, assault weapons and a R
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Speaker 1: fifteens now centator to me, went on face the nation
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Speaker 1: and really, in a way I think kind of grandstand.
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Speaker 1: He started a grandstand because he said, in his words,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this exact sentence and listen. Because
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Speaker 1: Pat Toomey is a guy. He's not like an AOC. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he's not a he's not a flamethrower type of guy. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he's not a Donald Trump. He's not going to go
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Speaker 1: out there and really talk smack. He doesn't do that.
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Speaker 1: It's not his style. So when a Pat Toomey said
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Speaker 1: something like this, I you need to pay great attention
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Speaker 1: to what he's actually saying and what he said was quote,
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Speaker 1: my hope is will get half of the Senate Republicans
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Speaker 1: to vote for a deal. Now, they're not calling it
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Speaker 1: gun control, they're calling it a gun deal. Now. Senor
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Speaker 1: Pat Toomey, who is a Republican from Pennsylvania, apparently started
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Speaker 1: with older quote statesman's in his statement in the Senate
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Speaker 1: and wanted to talk to people that may not run
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Speaker 1: for reelection. He says that he does believe now that
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Speaker 1: at least half of his Republican colleagues in the Senate
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Speaker 1: would vote for a gun package. He's currently negotiating with
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Speaker 1: the Democrats. Now, if that's the other part that needs
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Speaker 1: to be sending up red flags to all of you,
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Speaker 1: Why are the Republicans even negotiating on a gun package? Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take you back to the House. We
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Speaker 1: were just talking about the Senate, and this is connecting
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Speaker 1: those dots. Earlier this week, there was gun legislation that
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Speaker 1: was brought up and pushed in the House, and Representative Squalwell,
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Speaker 1: a hardcore lefty who is a leader of the anti
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Speaker 1: gun movement of the younger generation the House of Representatives,
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Speaker 1: was pretty blunt about what he thought about a R fifteens.
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Speaker 1: He's now saying and using this, and this is going
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Speaker 1: to be I think the talking point you're going to
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Speaker 1: see from all Democrats across the board, and that is this,
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Speaker 1: we are a country of unrestricted weaponry. I've heard that
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Speaker 1: line for the last seventy two hours from Democrats all
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Speaker 1: over the country, some of them running for elections, some
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Speaker 1: of them not on TV and in different things. They
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Speaker 1: are going to keep saying this phrase, we are quote
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Speaker 1: a country of unrestricted weaponry. They also are going to
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Speaker 1: say that we've debunked the idea that good guys with
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Speaker 1: a gun stopped the bad guys with a gun. In fact,
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Speaker 1: they're making the argument that are even our police, who
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Speaker 1: are the good guys with a gun, cannot stop the
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Speaker 1: bad guys with the guns. And they say, here's why,
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Speaker 1: because we've allowed the bad guys to buy these horrible weapons,
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Speaker 1: these AR fifteens, these AK forty sevens, We've allowed them
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Speaker 1: to buy them, and now they're outgunning our police. So
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Speaker 1: this is their closing argument to the American people, These
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Speaker 1: weapons of war are need to be restricted because we're
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Speaker 1: a country of unrestricted weaponry, and that's why crimes out
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Speaker 1: of control in this country. Forget the fact, they're the
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Speaker 1: ones that actually moved to defund the police. If you
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Speaker 1: want to know why crime is out of control in
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Speaker 1: this country, and especially in liberal states and liberal cities,
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Speaker 1: it is because liberals have defunded the police. They have
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Speaker 1: decided to not prosecute people for crimes. They've done what
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Speaker 1: they referred to as bail reform in prison reformer, they
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Speaker 1: want to let out as many people as they possibly
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Speaker 1: can from actually going to jail. And Representive Squawell was
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Speaker 1: making really the opening argument for this bill in the Senate,
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Speaker 1: and here is what he had to say. Now, you're
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Speaker 1: going to disagree. If you're a conservative that understands the Constitution,
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Speaker 1: if you understand the Second Amendment, you are gonna want
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Speaker 1: to yell at the audio I'm about to play for you.
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Speaker 1: Don't do that. I want you to listen to his
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Speaker 1: argument so that you understand how to fight back against it.
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Speaker 1: And I also want you to listen to how he
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Speaker 1: talks about this legislation. The reason why I say that
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Speaker 1: is because you wouldn't be making the speech that Representatives
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Speaker 1: Squalwell is making unless you were really close on the
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Speaker 1: votes you need to pass a massive gun control bill
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Speaker 1: in the United States Congress that includes the House and
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Speaker 1: the Senate. Listen to Squalwell and his logic. What we
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Speaker 1: have come to see across America is that our law
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Speaker 1: enforcement are just outgunned. We're a country of unrestricted weaponry
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Speaker 1: that continues to put the most dangerous weapons in the
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Speaker 1: hands of the most dangerous people. So we could hire
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand retired police officers, but if we are
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Speaker 1: a country that has over one hundred million assault rifles,
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Speaker 1: they're just outgunned. And that's what we saw in Evalde,
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Speaker 1: and tragically, in twenty sixteen in Dallas, Texas, five brave
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Speaker 1: police officers, SWAT trained police officers were murdered by a
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Speaker 1: killer with an assault rifle. So I think we've debunked
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Speaker 1: the idea that the answer to a killer with an
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Speaker 1: assault rifle is to have more quote unquote good guys
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Speaker 1: with guns. The good guys with guns are outgunned by
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Speaker 1: the bad guys that we've given guns in our country.
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Speaker 1: That is the closing argument for the Democrats on why
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Speaker 1: we should ban these firearms. This is the game plan
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Speaker 1: for how to take away your right to protect into
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Speaker 1: and your family. You just heard it. You now know
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Speaker 1: what the mindset is of the House with Representative Squalwell
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Speaker 1: saying that we are quote a country of unrestricted weaponry,
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Speaker 1: and we and this they're his words, and we've debunked
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Speaker 1: the idea of good guys with guns, stop bad guys
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Speaker 1: with guns. He says that the police are outgunned. He
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Speaker 1: says that you are outgun it's because we gave them
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Speaker 1: these guns. Those are his words, and he said, look
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Speaker 1: look at what we saw on you Valding. And tragically,
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Speaker 1: in twenty and sixteen in Dallas, Texas, quote, five brave
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Speaker 1: police officers swat train police officers were murdered by a
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Speaker 1: killer with an assault rifle. So I think we have
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Speaker 1: debunked the idea that the answer to a killer with
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Speaker 1: an assault rifle is to have more quote unquote good
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Speaker 1: guys with guns. The good guys with guns are outgunned
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Speaker 1: by the bad guys, and we've given guns. We've given
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Speaker 1: them the guns in this country, in our country. So
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Speaker 1: the votes are there in the House. That's what I
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Speaker 1: think you're hearing. And I don't think Squalwell would be
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Speaker 1: making these statements without him doing the vote count. And
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Speaker 1: I've been told now by two different senators tonight when
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Speaker 1: I sent messages that they said, if the vote was tonight,
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Speaker 1: they do believe in the Senate they have the votes
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Speaker 1: to pass gun control. Did you hear me? And this
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Speaker 1: is because we've not been loud enough and we've not
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Speaker 1: been calling our Republican congressman, senators. Democrats cannot do this
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Speaker 1: without us. When I say us, they cannot do it
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Speaker 1: without the Republican Party. They cannot do it without the
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Speaker 1: Republican Rhinos. They cannot do it without the swamp. Okay,
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Speaker 1: understand that, which brings me to the Senate and the
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Speaker 1: Republican Senator Pat Toomey. Listen carefully to what he said
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Speaker 1: on face the nation. Now, why did he put this
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Speaker 1: out there? Because he's trying to see what the pushback
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Speaker 1: will be. And when I say pushback, it's not for him,
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Speaker 1: it's for his Republican colleagues. As he's counting, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. They're saying to them, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of moving forward this. Hey I probably would
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Speaker 1: vote for it, but I want to see some polling.
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Speaker 1: I want to see if there is outrage. I want
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Speaker 1: to see if people will totally come after me, reject me,
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Speaker 1: and be angry with me right, That's that's what he's saying.
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Speaker 1: So Pat Toomey's like, I got this. I'll go on TV.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell people that half the Republicans are looking like
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do this with me. And then you guys,
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Speaker 1: see what your phone calls look like all next week,
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Speaker 1: how much of your base you're gonna lose. So I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna play for you now again, Listen to this, I
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Speaker 1: tell people, don't be angry, don't roll your eyes. Okay,
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Speaker 1: don't go give me a break. Pat Toomey, you suck.
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Speaker 1: Listen to his logic and what he's saying, because you're
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Speaker 1: gonna learn. We need to actually listen to their argument
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Speaker 1: so we know how to beat them. We turned out
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Speaker 1: of the pen Sylvania Republican Senator Pat Toomey. He is
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Speaker 1: one of the senators involved in bipartisan efforts to reduce
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Speaker 1: By the way, that's the number one lie that yet
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Speaker 1: to understand about what It scares the hell out of
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Speaker 1: me with Pat Toomey and these other Republicans. They say
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Speaker 1: they're on this bipartisan panel to reduce gun violence. That
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Speaker 1: is a lie. This is not about reducing gun violence.
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Speaker 1: This is about gun control. And they're wrapping it in
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Speaker 1: a package that they can describe as oh, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this is not us going for gun control. This is
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Speaker 1: us going for quote, reducing gun violence. Two totally different things, right,
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Speaker 1: That's how they're going to sell this, and the media
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Speaker 1: is helping them do it. That's why she introduced it
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Speaker 1: that way. Listeners to this as a Republican Senator Pat Toomey,
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Speaker 1: Listen to what he's sang working with the Democrats. Senator, welcome,
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Speaker 1: good Margaret. The numbers are pretty staggering here. There have
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Speaker 1: been two hundred and thirty nine mass shootings in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which is
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Speaker 1: a nonprofit that tracks these. Overnight, there was one in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: three people killed, fourteen injured using a semi automatic weapon.
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Speaker 1: What has happened to the American people that has taken
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Speaker 1: violence to this level? Yeah, well, it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: complex and multifaceted problem, as you know, Margaret. In some
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Speaker 1: cases criminality and our big cities has escalated enormously. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of factors contributing to that. In some cases,
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Speaker 1: it's district attorneys who think their job is to make
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Speaker 1: sure no one goes to jail. That's a problem. And
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Speaker 1: then of course we have these these horrific, sensational massacres
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Speaker 1: where a young man clearly has just gone completely off
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Speaker 1: the rails and is deranged, and that's a very different
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Speaker 1: set of circumstances. So it's a it's a big complicated problem.
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Speaker 1: By the way, you noticed how he did not talk
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Speaker 1: about gun control there, right, Look at this, it's about
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Speaker 1: reducing gun violence. That's how we masquerade this, That's how
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Speaker 1: we sign you up to buy into this. This is
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Speaker 1: how we pull on the heartstrings of conservative women, specifically
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Speaker 1: in mothers, and that's what they're betting on here, is
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Speaker 1: that they can get enough conservative women to break with
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Speaker 1: their husbands or their old school hunting families and say, look,
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Speaker 1: I support a Republican who gets rid of quote these
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Speaker 1: assault weapons because I'm in favor of saving lives. The
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Speaker 1: marketing of this is absolutely brilliant, and that's why Pat
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Speaker 1: Toomey is leading the way on this. He's marketing this,
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Speaker 1: and it's extremely smart marketing because the entire first statement
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Speaker 1: there was not about guns, right, It's about saving lives.
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Speaker 1: So let's move to the second part of the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Question number two Fumen. Most attempts to try to create
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Speaker 1: any kind of solution have stopped. But Democrats and Republicans
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Speaker 1: we just mentioned are negotiating right now to get something.
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Speaker 1: Democrats need ten Republican votes. You're one of six Republicans
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Speaker 1: working with Senator Chris Murphy. He said today that you
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Speaker 1: all are writing this legislation right now. It will not
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Speaker 1: ban assault weapons, it will not have comprehensive background checks.
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Speaker 1: As part of it. Is your proposal to expand background
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Speaker 1: checks still in it. Now. Notice what she just said
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Speaker 1: there and understand it. Wow, we were being told that
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Speaker 1: you're doing this bill without background checks in there, and
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Speaker 1: without assault weapons bans in there. Okay, so immediately you
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Speaker 1: should take a big deep breath right and say, oh,
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Speaker 1: everything's going to be fine. No, you shouldn't, And the
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Speaker 1: reason why you shouldn't is because you're about to understand
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Speaker 1: how they're going to lie to you until the very
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Speaker 1: last moment. Listen to the response from this Republican Senator
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Speaker 1: Pat Toomey. Well, I certainly hope we're going to have
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Speaker 1: an expansion of background checks. You know, Senator Mansion and
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Speaker 1: I have been working on this for a long time
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Speaker 1: and we've tried to establish that at least for commercial
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Speaker 1: sales of firearms there ought to be a background check,
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Speaker 1: So sales at gun shows, sales that are advertised over
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Speaker 1: the internet. I don't know that we'll get exactly what
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Speaker 1: Senator Mansion and I developed some years ago. It would
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Speaker 1: probably be something different than that, And that's fine. There
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Speaker 1: are a number of mechanisms you could use to expand
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Speaker 1: background checks, but I just think it makes sense. We
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Speaker 1: all agree that violent criminals and deranged, dangerously mentally ill
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Speaker 1: people shouldn't have firearms. So we need a mechanism to
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Speaker 1: increase the likelihood that will identify such a person and
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Speaker 1: prevent them from buying a gun legally anyway. And so
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Speaker 1: that's the idea behind expanding background checks. All right, So
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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen centator, is it? Well? I
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Speaker 1: certainly hope it does. Okay, So the first thing that
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Speaker 1: the reporter said was not in the bill is in
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Speaker 1: the bill. When I tell you that if you care
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Speaker 1: about your Second Amendment rights, you need to pay attention
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Speaker 1: and you need to get involved, this is exactly why
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Speaker 1: I'm warning you. This is me throwing up the fireworks,
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Speaker 1: the red flag that whatever, and telling you listen, please,
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Speaker 1: you need to call right now. You need to call
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Speaker 1: your congressman, you need to call your senator. If they're
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Speaker 1: a Republican, the Democrat's already gone. They're ready to sign
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Speaker 1: this thing, seal it up, deliver it, and go here
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Speaker 1: you go. Okay, that's their thing. They have no problem
18:41
Speaker 1: with this bill. They've been wanting it for years, and
18:44
Speaker 1: now they're getting close because they're changing the way that
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Speaker 1: you market it. They're changing the way that you sell it.
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Speaker 1: This is how you sell it, folks, and they're finally
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Speaker 1: getting smart enough to realize, you don't call it gun control.
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Speaker 1: You call it saving a life, you call it, you know, protection,
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Speaker 1: you don't call it gun control. And then you lie
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Speaker 1: to people about what's in the bill. Now, Republican Pat
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Speaker 1: Toomey was on face the nation. Pat Toomey, by the way,
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Speaker 1: is a very vanilla guy. Okay. I said this earlier
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Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. He's not a grandstander. He's
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Speaker 1: not a guy that's out there trying to, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, get every headline and get into Twitter wars
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Speaker 1: with people. And he's not he's that's just not his
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Speaker 1: m But what he's been advocating for for a long time,
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Speaker 1: is doing some things on gun control. But he's smart.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't call it that. He calls about protecting people
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Speaker 1: and things. It's very smart. Now, Lie number one is
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Speaker 1: about this bill and Face the Nation set this up
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Speaker 1: brilliantly with the Senator. Well, we've been told in this
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Speaker 1: bill that there's not going to be gun control. We've
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Speaker 1: been told in this buildre would not be background checks.
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Speaker 1: Is that still true, senator? And the Senator said, well,
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Speaker 1: we certainly hope that there's going to be background check
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Speaker 1: movement in this bill. We certainly hope that that's going
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Speaker 1: to happen. Well, if you're the guy right in the
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Speaker 1: damn bill, then you know that you're going to put
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Speaker 1: it in the bill. You're That's the reason why he's
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Speaker 1: on TV. That's the reason why he's unfaced the nation
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Speaker 1: because he is literally the guy. Okay, he's literally the
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Speaker 1: guy who is writing the bill or leading the writing
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Speaker 1: of this bill. So the idea you say, well, I
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Speaker 1: certainly hope that these measures will be in the bill.
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Speaker 1: Of course they're going to be in the bill. You're
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Speaker 1: the guy doing it. But if they lull you to
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Speaker 1: sleep and you're not paying attention. You're not calling your
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Speaker 1: center and you're not calling your congressman. This is how
20:39
Speaker 1: this happens. And all of a sudden, before you know it,
20:41
Speaker 1: you're like Canada. Look at Canada. Look at what has
20:44
Speaker 1: happened in Canada. Canada, folks, Canada. This is how quick
20:48
Speaker 1: it happens. They come out. Trudeau comes out after the
20:51
Speaker 1: people in Canada stood up to the government for the
20:54
Speaker 1: first time really in my lifetime, on vaccine mandates. Okay,
20:58
Speaker 1: that's what happened, That's what with a this was. And
21:01
Speaker 1: they use their eighteen wheelers and they came in. They
21:03
Speaker 1: started treating them like domestic terrorists. Do not forget that.
21:06
Speaker 1: And the people that were helping the truckers and bring
21:08
Speaker 1: in the diesel to keep their trucks going, they treated
21:10
Speaker 1: them like domestic terrorists. They categorize them and rested them
21:14
Speaker 1: and seize their cards and their belongings as domestic terrorists.
21:19
Speaker 1: And they realize, holy crap, these people are out of control.
21:24
Speaker 1: They're standing up to us where you're supposed to dictate
21:26
Speaker 1: to them. They're supposed to be our minions. What do
21:29
Speaker 1: we do now, Well, we take away their guns. And
21:32
Speaker 1: they didn't just take away their guns. They took away
21:33
Speaker 1: the right to protect and defend themselves with handguns. You
21:36
Speaker 1: can no longer buy, sell or transfer a handgun in Canada.
21:39
Speaker 1: That's what Trudeau said. And this is in Canada. So
21:43
Speaker 1: if you think that, we're like, oh, I don't need
21:45
Speaker 1: to be involved right now, right because it's gonna be fine.
21:48
Speaker 1: They're not gonna there's no way they'll actually pass this legislation.
21:52
Speaker 1: This is not really gonna happen. We'll call your friends
21:55
Speaker 1: in Canada and ask them what just happened to them.
21:58
Speaker 1: If you listen to me very often, you know I
22:01
Speaker 1: am not an alarmist. I'm not an activist talk show host. Okay,
22:06
Speaker 1: I'm a commentator. I'll tell you what's going on, tell
22:09
Speaker 1: you why it's happening. I'm more analyze it and explain
22:12
Speaker 1: it to you and then come up with a way
22:14
Speaker 1: to fight back or logical ways to undermine their arguments.
22:18
Speaker 1: But I'm usually not on here beating the death. So
22:20
Speaker 1: I can call your senator and congressmen, mostly because I
22:22
Speaker 1: think they suck, mostly because I know in reality they
22:26
Speaker 1: don't listen to us. But on this issue, guns is
22:28
Speaker 1: a third rail, and we just had the third rail
22:33
Speaker 1: blown up with abortion, right, So why not go all right,
22:36
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna do this on abortion. That will
22:38
Speaker 1: blow up the third rail on our side, which is
22:40
Speaker 1: part of the logic here. You get enough people in
22:46
Speaker 1: the media beating the drum for enough years as well
22:48
Speaker 1: as we've witnessed, and you get enough of these shootings
22:50
Speaker 1: on TV where you can exploit them and never let
22:53
Speaker 1: a quote tragedy go to waste, which is what they
22:56
Speaker 1: say Democrats say that, then you can finally get enough
23:01
Speaker 1: people around you and say, you know what, screw it,
23:03
Speaker 1: I'm in. You can get that, you can finally get
23:07
Speaker 1: enough people are in and around you that they say,
23:09
Speaker 1: all right, I'm in, I'll do it. Why not, right, like,
23:14
Speaker 1: let's do it. Fine, I'll do it. So let's go
23:19
Speaker 1: to that second part of the question. Center to me.
23:22
Speaker 1: Listen to this from Face the Nation, So to be clear,
23:25
Speaker 1: because you had proposed the mansion to me background check
23:29
Speaker 1: expansion in twenty thirteen, twenty fifteen, twenty nineteen, you're saying
23:34
Speaker 1: what's surviving right now is essentially a watered down version
23:38
Speaker 1: of that. How is it different? Well, this is a
23:45
Speaker 1: moving target, if you will. We're still in discussions and
23:49
Speaker 1: we are still trying to figure out exactly what mechanism
23:54
Speaker 1: is going to enable us to get the votes that
23:56
Speaker 1: we would need. So so I can't be precise about that, Marrid.
24:00
Speaker 1: It hasn't been finally resolved, but something in the space
24:03
Speaker 1: of expanding background checks I think is very well. It
24:07
Speaker 1: certainly is on the table, and I hope will be
24:10
Speaker 1: part of a final package. Well, we see overwhelming support
24:13
Speaker 1: in our CBS polling for background checks, which is why
24:17
Speaker 1: it's interesting that it's difficult there it is, there's your
24:21
Speaker 1: there's your your clothes from her. Well, the American people
24:25
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly support this, advocate for it, and want it. We're
24:28
Speaker 1: behind you, Senor. To me, we want you to have this.
24:30
Speaker 1: Senter to me, we love what you're doing here to me,
24:33
Speaker 1: don't give up, Senor to me, make stands strong to me,
24:36
Speaker 1: make sure that you're there. To me, we want you
24:38
Speaker 1: to be there. To me, we want you to advocate
24:40
Speaker 1: for this. To me, we want you to do this.
24:42
Speaker 1: To me. We're right here with you too me. Senator,
24:46
Speaker 1: you're doing a great thing. We need you. We here
24:49
Speaker 1: at CBS News and our poll shows overwhelming support, right,
24:55
Speaker 1: overwhelming support for this and we need you to really
24:58
Speaker 1: be there, We need you to to keep pushing, and
25:01
Speaker 1: we're going to give you the cover that you need
25:03
Speaker 1: to do it. That was the conversation you literally just heard, right.
25:10
Speaker 1: That's it, Folks like that. That's the actual conversation. So
25:14
Speaker 1: she says, let's move on because they're not done. They
25:17
Speaker 1: need your guns, folks. But this isn't about guns, No,
25:20
Speaker 1: this is about this is about saving lives. Bill. There
25:23
Speaker 1: was a Republican congressman in the state of New York.
25:25
Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard about this, Chris Jacobs. He represents
25:28
Speaker 1: the district around Buffalo where there was that awful mass
25:31
Speaker 1: shooting just a few weeks ago. He dropped out of
25:34
Speaker 1: his reelection race after seven days after he publicly endorsed
25:38
Speaker 1: a federal assault weapons ban and limits on high capacity magazines.
25:42
Speaker 1: This is what he had to say. We have a
25:46
Speaker 1: problem in our country in terms of both our major parties.
25:54
Speaker 1: If you stray from a party position, you are annihilated.
25:59
Speaker 1: For the Republicans. It it became pretty apparent to me
26:02
Speaker 1: over the last week that issue is gun control, any
26:06
Speaker 1: gun control. Do you agree with him? No, I don't.
26:13
Speaker 1: I think there's a wide range of opinions among elected Republicans,
26:17
Speaker 1: just as there are among Republican voters across the country.
26:21
Speaker 1: In my case, I wrote a bill with Senator Mansion
26:24
Speaker 1: and advocated for expanding background checks in twenty thirteen. As
26:28
Speaker 1: you pointed out again in twenty fifteen, we right, but
26:30
Speaker 1: you couldn't get enough Republicans get elected. I was. I
26:35
Speaker 1: was reelected without a primary challenge, So I think that
26:39
Speaker 1: that tells you something also, Well, excuse me, I'm sorry
26:44
Speaker 1: my voice. The President himself has campaigned on this idea
26:49
Speaker 1: that he can be a deal broker. Does he need
26:52
Speaker 1: to get involved or does the involvement of the president
26:56
Speaker 1: lessen the chances of success here? Yeah? The problem is
27:01
Speaker 1: I think the president might have been a president who
27:03
Speaker 1: would reach across the aisle try to bring people together,
27:06
Speaker 1: but he's chosen not to take that approach. Since day one.
27:09
Speaker 1: He has sided with the far left of his party
27:12
Speaker 1: and really not reached out to Republicans. He gave a
27:16
Speaker 1: speech on this topic where he advocated policies that he
27:19
Speaker 1: knows for sure have no chance of passing the Senate,
27:22
Speaker 1: probably couldn't even get fifty votes and hold the Democrats,
27:26
Speaker 1: much less to get the sixty we would need, so
27:29
Speaker 1: once again, the President is not being very helpful. I
27:31
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, this is going
27:33
Speaker 1: to come down to whether we can reach a consensus.
27:36
Speaker 1: In the United States Senate, there are intensive discussions underway.
27:39
Speaker 1: It includes people who have not been engaged on this
27:42
Speaker 1: issue in the past. I certainly can't guarantee any outcome,
27:47
Speaker 1: but it feels to me like we are closer than
27:49
Speaker 1: we've been since I've been in the Senate. That last
27:54
Speaker 1: sentence right there, it feels closer than it's ever been
28:01
Speaker 1: since I've been the Senate. Quote. It includes people who
28:06
Speaker 1: have not been engaged on this issue in the past.
28:09
Speaker 1: I can't certainly guarantee any outcome, but it feels to
28:14
Speaker 1: me like we are closer than we've been since I've
28:16
Speaker 1: been in the Senate. That's a long time, folks. You
28:22
Speaker 1: gotta understand. Pat Toomey has been around. He's a He's
28:25
Speaker 1: not a first term senator. Okay. This is a guy
28:30
Speaker 1: that took office in two and eleven. It's two twenty two.
28:35
Speaker 1: He's been elected several times. He was a representative by
28:38
Speaker 1: the way back in the nineties in Congress as a
28:41
Speaker 1: as a Republican member of the House. So he's been
28:44
Speaker 1: in Washington since nine nine, so he's been there for
28:46
Speaker 1: twenty three years. And when he says this is the
28:51
Speaker 1: closest we've ever been to getting something done like this,
28:55
Speaker 1: he's not lying to you. He's telling you the truth,
28:57
Speaker 1: which means you have an option as an American right now,
29:01
Speaker 1: and you have a decision that you have to make.
29:03
Speaker 1: Are you going to sit on your abs and do
29:06
Speaker 1: nothing and assume that your Second Amendment rights are going
29:09
Speaker 1: to be okay? Or are you going to call and
29:12
Speaker 1: get involved with your congressman, your senators. Because I have
29:15
Speaker 1: been told again I rarely text senators that I have numbers, right,
29:20
Speaker 1: they get a million texts and I just I usually
29:22
Speaker 1: don't do it. But every single one of the Republican
29:26
Speaker 1: senators that I texted this past weekend all said to me,
29:31
Speaker 1: this is the closest the Democrats have ever been to
29:34
Speaker 1: passing an assault weapons ban. And as one senator said
29:39
Speaker 1: to me today, if the vote was today, they believe
29:44
Speaker 1: it would pass. Pat to me, put it this way, quote,
29:49
Speaker 1: I can't certainly can't guarantee any outcome, but it feels
29:54
Speaker 1: to me like we are closer than we've been since
29:56
Speaker 1: I've been in the Senate. Now, the question is what
30:00
Speaker 1: Republicans are going to the dark side to take away
30:05
Speaker 1: your freedom and your Second Amendment rights. Well, that question
30:10
Speaker 1: was basically asked, so you can get four other Republicans
30:15
Speaker 1: to stand with you, the six who are negotiating. My
30:20
Speaker 1: hope is will get a lot more than that. My
30:22
Speaker 1: hopes will we'll get at least half the Republican conference. Um,
30:25
Speaker 1: you know that that's that should be the goal here.
30:29
Speaker 1: We're going to have to be realistic about what can
30:31
Speaker 1: do that. Senator Murphy alluded to the idea that it's
30:35
Speaker 1: not going to be everything certainly that Democrats would like. Um,
30:40
Speaker 1: we'll see where it ends up. Is there a risk
30:42
Speaker 1: that the Republican Party becomes associated with gun violence if
30:47
Speaker 1: you can't get those votes? By the way I would
30:51
Speaker 1: this is the part where Pat Toomey should have lost
30:54
Speaker 1: it on this interview. Is there a point where the
31:00
Speaker 1: Republican Party is worried that they are tied to gun
31:02
Speaker 1: violence like we're advocating, Yes, Republicans are out there every
31:05
Speaker 1: day advocating for people killing people. Are you kidding me?
31:08
Speaker 1: We're the ones that are demanding truth and sentencing on
31:13
Speaker 1: those that commit heinous gun crimes. We're the ones that
31:16
Speaker 1: are demanding they actually lock people up. We're the ones
31:19
Speaker 1: that are demanding more police. We're the ones that are
31:23
Speaker 1: demanding that these activists das that refuse to put anybody
31:26
Speaker 1: in jail for anything, including violent crimes with guns, stop
31:31
Speaker 1: doing that. We are the ones that are demanding all
31:36
Speaker 1: of the things that I just mentioned, every single one
31:38
Speaker 1: of these things that we're the ones that are demanding it.
31:43
Speaker 1: But there you are with a hard core liberal on
31:45
Speaker 1: TV on Face Nation, Well you worried that the Republican
31:51
Speaker 1: Party is going to be associated with this gun violence America.
31:54
Speaker 1: Like you're the advocates. You're the ones supporting it, advocating
31:58
Speaker 1: for it. Right, That's that's exactly what's being said here.
32:02
Speaker 1: This is how bad the propaganda is, right, Like, this
32:06
Speaker 1: is the propaganda. This is it, folks, This is the
32:09
Speaker 1: ball game for them. This is how you set it up,
32:12
Speaker 1: this is how you do it. And if Toomey was smarty,
32:15
Speaker 1: would say, I reject the premise of your question. How absurd?
32:18
Speaker 1: How dare you say that the Republican Party is the
32:22
Speaker 1: party of death right? You're the guys that have been
32:25
Speaker 1: supporting Black Lives Matter and in Tiefa that have been
32:27
Speaker 1: torching and burning down cities for the last several years.
32:30
Speaker 1: You're the ones that support that Black lives matter? Who chant?
32:33
Speaker 1: What do we want dead cops when we want them now?
32:35
Speaker 1: Pigs in a blanket? Fry them like Bacon's right, Death
32:40
Speaker 1: to America? They chant in California and the Democratic Party
32:43
Speaker 1: at the highest levels, including the President the Vice President,
32:46
Speaker 1: have been advocating, supporting and telling people to donate to
32:49
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter. So does Pat Toomey get angry? No?
32:54
Speaker 1: Why because he's one of them? Listen, you know, Look,
32:56
Speaker 1: I think the Republicans have been are consistently supporters of
33:01
Speaker 1: second Second Amendment rights. Republican voters expect Republicans to defend
33:06
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. I think there is a place to
33:09
Speaker 1: land that's consistent with the Second Amendment. As I've been
33:12
Speaker 1: advocating for expanding background checks. By the way, I think
33:16
Speaker 1: encouraging states to have some kind of red flag laws
33:19
Speaker 1: could make sense as long as there's an adequate due process.
33:23
Speaker 1: I think there are school safety provisions, there are mental
33:25
Speaker 1: health issues that we could address, So there are things
33:27
Speaker 1: we could do that would be constructive that are consistent
33:30
Speaker 1: with Republican values. And I'm hoping we'll get there. And
33:35
Speaker 1: I'm hoping we'll get there. We'll guess what he's saying.
33:38
Speaker 1: We're the closest we've ever been. So this is your
33:41
Speaker 1: big warning. This is the big moment. This is where
33:44
Speaker 1: I'm shooting off the fireworks into the night sky, trying
33:47
Speaker 1: to get your attention. If you care about your Second
33:51
Speaker 1: Amendment rights, now is the time you make the phone calls. Now,
33:54
Speaker 1: this is when you call and you start asking questions
33:58
Speaker 1: of your elected officials, and you start saying, where do
34:00
Speaker 1: you stand on this? Because I'm not in favor of
34:03
Speaker 1: gun control. I'm not in favor a banning our right
34:07
Speaker 1: to bear arms. I'm not in favor of falling into
34:11
Speaker 1: the logic today again the lies that a nine millimeter
34:14
Speaker 1: blows the lungs out of the body, which is what
34:16
Speaker 1: Joe Biden said. But if we don't wake up and
34:21
Speaker 1: we don't pay attention, they're going to win this battle.
34:24
Speaker 1: And you're gonna wake up one day and you're gonna go,
34:26
Speaker 1: holy crap, just like they did in Canada. It just
34:29
Speaker 1: happened in Canada, folks, right like this just happened in Canada,
34:36
Speaker 1: it can happen overnight. I'm gonna be following this all week,
34:43
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34:47
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34:52
Speaker 1: your senators, and it's time to let them know, as
34:55
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34:58
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