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FBI Offered Christopher Steele $1 Million to Corroborate Trump Allegations in Dossier · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: So imagine you made up a lie to frame a
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Speaker 1: guy who you didn't want to get elected by the
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Speaker 1: name of Donald Trump, with a dossier that you created
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Speaker 1: with campaign funds from Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee,
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Speaker 1: and then you take it to the FBI, and then
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Speaker 1: the FBI says, we'll pay you a million dollars to
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Speaker 1: corroborate the allegations in the dossier which you created a
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Speaker 1: thin air, you get rewarded for it. That is exactly
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Speaker 1: what apparently happened back in twenty sixteen. Your tax dollars
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Speaker 1: were offered from the FBI during an overseas meeting between
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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele and several top FBI officials. How do we
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Speaker 1: know this because the Special Counsel John Durham was questioning
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Speaker 1: his first witness of the trial of that Russian national,
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Speaker 1: Igor Denchenko who lied to the FBI. Durham charged him
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Speaker 1: with five counts of making false statements to the FBI
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Speaker 1: over the two thousand and sixteen anti Trump docier. Now,
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Speaker 1: charged this individual with. Durham has for making false statements
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Speaker 1: to the FBI over the twenty sixteen docier. We know
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Speaker 1: also now that the FBI supervisory counterintelligence analysts Brian Autumn,
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Speaker 1: testify that a group of agents met with Christopher Steele
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Speaker 1: overseas in early October of twenty twenty one. Why did
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Speaker 1: they meet with him? They met with him about his
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Speaker 1: dossier which contains delicious allegations against Donald Trump and other
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Speaker 1: members of the Trump campaign. Now, during the questioning, Autumn
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Speaker 1: revealed the FBI offered Steele, and this is in the trial,
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Speaker 1: one million dollars to corroborate the dossiers allegations against former
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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump, who then at the time was a
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Speaker 1: candidate running for the White House. And Autumn testified that
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Speaker 1: Steele could not authenticate his own dolcier. Why because he
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Speaker 1: made it out of thin air. We know this. They
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Speaker 1: created a fake document, They created a fake story, and
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Speaker 1: it was paid for by Hillary Clinton and Hillary Clinton's
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Speaker 1: campaign and the Democratic National Committee. They knew it was was fake.
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Speaker 1: The entire time. But this is the police work of
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Speaker 1: the swamp. They wanted it to be real so bad
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Speaker 1: that they were willing to offer the guy a million
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Speaker 1: dollars to help corroborate the story so they could say
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Speaker 1: it's legitimate. That's how bad the FBI wanted this to
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Speaker 1: be true. I want you to take a listen to
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Speaker 1: this report from Fox News Channel about this thing. Then
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Speaker 1: joins US Live with a details brook Hey, Good morning guys.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday's Special counsel John Durham questioned the first witness of
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Speaker 1: the trial of Russian national igor Dan Chanko. Now Durham
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Speaker 1: has charged him with five counts of making false statements
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Speaker 1: to the FBI over the twenty sixteen anti Trump dossier.
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Speaker 1: FBI supervisory counter intelligence analyst Brian Auton testifying that a
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Speaker 1: group of agents met with Christopher Steele overseas in early
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Speaker 1: October twenty twenty one about his dossier, which contained salacious
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Speaker 1: allegations against Trump and members of his twenty sixteen at campaign.
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Speaker 1: Now Durham, questioning Auton, revealed the FBI offered Steele one
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Speaker 1: million dollars to corroborate the dossier's allegations against now former
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Speaker 1: President Trump, but Auton testified that Steele could not. Durham
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Speaker 1: also asked, quote on October twenty one, twenty sixteen, the
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Speaker 1: date of the Carter Page FISA application, did you have
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Speaker 1: any information to corroborate the dossier? Which Oughton responded, no.
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Speaker 1: Now let's just stop there for a second. Okay, you
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Speaker 1: noticed they just said no, Right, that was the that
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Speaker 1: was the clutch of all this. No, we did not
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Speaker 1: have the information to corroborate it. So so let's just
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Speaker 1: take that a step further. Right, Let's just be very
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Speaker 1: clear here about what it is that you've done, what
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Speaker 1: it is that you have, what it is that it
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Speaker 1: is that has taken place here. You guys lied to
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Speaker 1: get a FISA warrant to spy on Donald Trump, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's campaign. You got a piece of paper granted to
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Speaker 1: you by a PHI support to spy on carter Page
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Speaker 1: and anyone carter Page is talking to, which meant the
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Speaker 1: entire Trump campaign. And you knew that when you did
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Speaker 1: that that there was no way that it was actually
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Speaker 1: true or accurate. You knew that it was a lie.
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Speaker 1: You knew that what you were asking for with as
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Speaker 1: FISA warrant was all based in total BS and you
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Speaker 1: knew that you could not corroborate it. And hell, even
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Speaker 1: the FBI offered you a million dollars to corroborate your
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Speaker 1: own story, which you brought to the FBI, and you
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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Now, this tells you two different things.
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Speaker 1: Number One, the FBI desperately wanted the DOLCIA to be real.
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Speaker 1: That's why they were willing to spend a million dollars
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Speaker 1: to get them to corroborate it, and you were going
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Speaker 1: to pay them for that. The second thing was they
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Speaker 1: should have known right then that the Carter Page FISA
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Speaker 1: warrant should have never happened, but they didn't care. They
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Speaker 1: needed probable cause. They just need a reason to start
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Speaker 1: spying on Donald Trump in the Trump campaign. That's all
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Speaker 1: that really mattered to them, and that's what they got
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Speaker 1: out of this. We also know that they also fake
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Speaker 1: emails and documents to continue to get those FISA warrants.
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Speaker 1: Another huge problem back to this from Fox Listen Steel
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Speaker 1: dossier was used to justify the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
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Speaker 1: warrant or FISA warrant used to monitor former Trump campaign
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Speaker 1: aide carter Page. The dossier was authored by Steele commissioned
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Speaker 1: by opposition Research Fusion GPS and paid for it by
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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee through
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Speaker 1: law firm perkins Coe. Yesterday, the prosecution blamed dan Chenko
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Speaker 1: for the FBI's aggression and its probe into the Trump campaign.
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Speaker 1: They claimed, quote the Steele dossier caused the FBI to
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Speaker 1: engage in troubling conduct. The defendants lies played a role
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Speaker 1: in that conduct. But Fox News legal analyst Greg Jarrett
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Speaker 1: believes the agency knew the allegations and the dossier were lies. Listen.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Christopher Steele couldn't possibly corroborate his dossier because
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Speaker 1: it was all made up and the FBI I actually
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Speaker 1: knew that. But that didn't stop the FBI from exploiting
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Speaker 1: the dossier's fuel for their investigation of Trump and to
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Speaker 1: go over as you point out, to the FI supporting
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Speaker 1: lie to the judges. Now, Danchenko maintains his innocence, pleading
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Speaker 1: not guilty to all charges. Of course he is, by
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Speaker 1: the way, of course he's going to say, oh, I'm innocent,
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Speaker 1: I've done nothing wrong. I don't blame him for doing
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Speaker 1: that either. But what we now know is that they
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Speaker 1: knew the entire time they were going after Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: and the entire time they were trying to impeache Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump that it was all based in a lie. And
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Speaker 1: we know it now under oath, and we know that
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Speaker 1: the FBI was begging for this to be real, begging
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Speaker 1: for it to be real. The point they were willing
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Speaker 1: to pay a scumbag a million dollars, a million bucks,
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Speaker 1: the guy who created the lie. They're like, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: can you help us corroborate this? We really want this
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Speaker 1: to be real, we really want this to be true.
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Speaker 1: We really need this to be true. We need this
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Speaker 1: to be a major issue here, and so can you
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Speaker 1: help us connect these dots? We will give you a
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Speaker 1: million dollars if you can just make it happen. Couldn't
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Speaker 1: do it because it was all a lie. Every bit
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Speaker 1: of it was a lie. It was all made up,
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Speaker 1: it was all paid for. And then they still allowed
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Speaker 1: this right, they still allowed this to be used to
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Speaker 1: impeach Donald Trump, and the entire time they knew that
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Speaker 1: while they were impeaching Donald Trump that it was all
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Speaker 1: a lie. James Coomer talked about this is he's doing
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Speaker 1: this investigation, talking about what he's going to look into,
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Speaker 1: and he said the same thing. You got to step
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Speaker 1: back here and realize what just happened in this country.
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Speaker 1: You look at the Steel dossier, you look at what
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Speaker 1: the Democrats were doing, and you see it, and it's
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Speaker 1: one of those moments right where you understand just how
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Speaker 1: nasty the deep state is, how corrupt it is. They
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Speaker 1: were sitting there and I'm talking about the FBI, not
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Speaker 1: talking about political hacks here. I'm talking about the FBI,
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Speaker 1: the CIA, and the other government agencies that they all
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Speaker 1: went to to try to corroborate all of this, and
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Speaker 1: the same thing happened. The same exact thing happened. They said,
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Speaker 1: all right, we want this to be true because we
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Speaker 1: don't like this guy. We don't like Donald Trump, we
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Speaker 1: don't want to work for him, we don't want to
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Speaker 1: like him, we don't want to talk to it. We
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Speaker 1: want this guy. We want this to be a very
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Speaker 1: bad day. We want to impeach him. And while they
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Speaker 1: were impeaching him, they knew it was all I every
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Speaker 1: bit of it. You now have this article that's come
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Speaker 1: out and it's telling you the real story. It's explaining
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Speaker 1: to you how they framed him. It's explaining to you
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Speaker 1: just how they were willing to stop at nothing to
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Speaker 1: try to frame Donald Trump and to and not just
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Speaker 1: to frame him, but also to make sure they could
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Speaker 1: spy on him. They were willing to lock up anyone
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Speaker 1: and everyone, and they were willing to impeach him over
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Speaker 1: which is a coup attempt. Right If you're trying to
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Speaker 1: overthrow the president, nights its America based on information that
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Speaker 1: you know was created out of thin ear, based on
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Speaker 1: by the way, has tried to get involved in our elections.
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Speaker 1: Right in this Yeah, they wanted to stop Trump, that's clear.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to spy on him, they wanted to frame him,
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Speaker 1: and they knew the entire time they were trying to
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Speaker 1: impeach him. They were using documents that were fabricated, and
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Speaker 1: they didn't step in and stop it. They were trying
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Speaker 1: to overthrow the will to people. This was a coup attempt,
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Speaker 1: clearly by the deep state. But this isn't the only
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Speaker 1: time the FBI has been doing this. Recently like they
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Speaker 1: are totally gone rogue at the highest levels. A great
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Speaker 1: example of this is the FBI continuing to involve itself
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Speaker 1: in our elections with Joe Biden on a different issue.
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Speaker 1: Remember still Dolcie had nothing to do with Biden. That
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Speaker 1: was Hillary Clinton's doing, right, They just didn't want Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump to be the president. You fast forward and now
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Speaker 1: you got Joe Biden. What are they doing. They're protecting
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Joe Biden's family and the crime family
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Speaker 1: at all costs. How do we know this Because of
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Speaker 1: new emails obtained by Fox News, Maria Bartomo came out
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Speaker 1: with this, the Biden family's mega deal with Chinese energy firm.
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Speaker 1: The FI knew about it. The FI tried to help
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Speaker 1: cover it up and listen to what she had to
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Speaker 1: say with Congressman Jim Jordan's Futures has obtained emails between
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Speaker 1: Hunter and Joe's brother, Jim Biden's partners, indicating what we
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Speaker 1: believe to be the beginning of the partnership back in
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, while Joe Biden was still vice president of
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Speaker 1: Chinese Energy Company's CEFC and the Biden group. That group
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Speaker 1: includes Rob Walker, James R. Tony Bobolynsky, and Jim and
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. In this email, we want to show you
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Speaker 1: Hunter answers yes to what appears to be the terms
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Speaker 1: of a partnership with CEFC. Hunter's former partner, Tony Bobolynsky
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Speaker 1: told me the agreement was for CEFC to pay the
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Speaker 1: Biden family for helping the company do deals across the world.
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Speaker 1: And here's the infamous Big Guy email, which shows a
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Speaker 1: negotiation of who gets what in the deal, including ten
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Speaker 1: percent equity held by h for the Big Guy. President
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Speaker 1: Biden this week called Putin's nuclear threats the closest to
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Speaker 1: armageddon since nineteen sixty two. But back in September of
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, CEFC was in a deal to acquire a
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Speaker 1: fourteen percent stake in Russian oil company Rosneft. This the
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Speaker 1: same company that was to be paying the Biden plan
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Speaker 1: and this email. This new email emerges this week, identified
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Speaker 1: from Hunter's laptop and exposed by Congressman darryl Isa. It
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Speaker 1: shows James Biden making overtures to the Qatari royal family,
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Speaker 1: which reads, in part, my family would provide a wealth
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Speaker 1: introductions and business opportunities at the highest levels. So will
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Speaker 1: these upcoming federal charges be a slap on the risk
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Speaker 1: for Hunter Biden or will we see accountability for what
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Speaker 1: certainly appears to be years of influence peddling from the
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Speaker 1: Biden family. Joining me right now the man who will
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Speaker 1: likely soon have the subpoena power as the chairman of
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Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee should the GOP take the majority after
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Speaker 1: the midterms. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, now the ranking member
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Speaker 1: of Judiciary Unction, Thanks her much for being here this morning.
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Speaker 1: Good what are your plans in terms of subpoena power?
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Speaker 1: Who will use subpoena and will you be investigating this? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think the Hunter Biden story will primarily be done
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Speaker 1: out of the Oversight Committee under the if in fact,
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Speaker 1: the American people put us in the majority, will be
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Speaker 1: done under the leadership of then Chairman Comer in the
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Speaker 1: Oversight Committee. But yeah, we need to do this. I
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Speaker 1: think the real question is knows what's the FBI really
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Speaker 1: going to do? I mean, the American people have common sense.
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Speaker 1: They see the facts. They see that there was a laptop,
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Speaker 1: there was the eyewitness, there was the emails, there are
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Speaker 1: all these suspicious activity reports. There's now this email that
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Speaker 1: Congressman Isa has brought forward. So the facts are already there.
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Speaker 1: The real question is will the FBI hold people accountable?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I got my doubts, and frankly, I'll believe
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Speaker 1: it when I see it, because this is the FBI
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Speaker 1: where we've now had fourteen agents come to us as
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Speaker 1: whistleblowers and tell us how political it's gotten. This is
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Speaker 1: the FBI that rated the home of a former president,
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Speaker 1: took the phone of a sitting member of Congress. This
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Speaker 1: is the FBI who kicked in the door of a
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Speaker 1: pro life leader two weeks ago outside of Philadelphia and
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Speaker 1: arrested him in front of his wife and seven children
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Speaker 1: for something local law enforcement said was not a crime,
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Speaker 1: not a problem. So this is how political this FBI
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Speaker 1: has become. And I think a key point to remember too, Marias,
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Speaker 1: this is the FBI who's involved themselves in every single
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Speaker 1: election for the last four cycles. This is the point
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Speaker 1: Congressman Gates made a committee a few weeks ago. In
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, they spied on President Trump's campaign. In twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 1: it was the Mueller investigation. In twenty twenty, they suppressed
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Speaker 1: information about the hunter Biden laptop. And now in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: they've raided the home of the former president, taken the
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Speaker 1: phone of a sitting member of Congress ninety one days
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Speaker 1: before an election. So when is the FBI not that
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Speaker 1: involved themselves in one of our elections. That's probably a
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Speaker 1: key question. So that, to me is the real concern.
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Speaker 1: We're going to do everything we can to hold these
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Speaker 1: folks accountable, and if we have the majority, bring them
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Speaker 1: in front of Congress. Do the depositions that need to
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Speaker 1: be done so we can get the facts. So another
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Speaker 1: word deal shapoena. Christopher Ray, Well, I think you start.
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Speaker 1: I think there's key people. Let's use the school board example.
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Speaker 1: We know that the school Board Association last fall was
17:41
Speaker 1: communicating with the White House, the Justice Department, and the
17:44
Speaker 1: Department of Education before they ever sent the letter, the
17:48
Speaker 1: letter that said let's use the counter terrorism measures against
17:51
Speaker 1: moms and dads. We want to know who they were
17:53
Speaker 1: talking to. We'd like to know were there folks at
17:55
Speaker 1: the White House who said, oh, in that letter you're
17:57
Speaker 1: going to send to us as a pretext for us
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Speaker 1: to send this memorandum. In that letter, go ahead and
18:02
Speaker 1: put the language about the Patriot Act and using counter
18:05
Speaker 1: terrorism measures against parents. Did the White House suggest that
18:08
Speaker 1: language go in there? Did they tell them to put
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Speaker 1: it in? Did they? I mean, those are key questions
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Speaker 1: we need to get. So, yeah, well there's all kinds
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Speaker 1: of folks we need to bring in for depositions and
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Speaker 1: then hopefully including all the way up to the FBI
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Speaker 1: director himself. Well, this is all very concerning, particularly now
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Speaker 1: because now, I mean, nobody wants to talk about the
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Speaker 1: commander in chief being compromised, but now we're in a
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Speaker 1: moment in time where we have these adversaries attacking or
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Speaker 1: trying to overtake America, and you've got a war on Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was on the board of Barisma, making millions
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Speaker 1: of dollars overall, and then you've got Russia and it's provocations,
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Speaker 1: killing people, death and destruction in Ukraine. We know that
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Speaker 1: the mayor of Moscow's wife whired a three and a
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Speaker 1: half million dollars check to Hunter Biden's group, and of
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Speaker 1: course the Chinese officials. The Johnson Grassley released a report
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Speaker 1: on the conflicts of interest investigation. They've identified money taken
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Speaker 1: in from Chinese officials. So how can we trust that
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Speaker 1: the decisions that this president makes in such important situations
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Speaker 1: like the ones I've just mentioned, is not because of
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Speaker 1: money or you know, owing these officials something. By the way,
19:27
Speaker 1: that's the question that this election needs to be about
19:30
Speaker 1: the mid terms, the question that Marie Bartrooma just asked. There.
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Speaker 1: You think about this Hunter Biden's story, you think about
19:40
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, You think about the Oversight Committee,
19:43
Speaker 1: You think about the fact that the Americans need to
19:46
Speaker 1: understand what was happening and why it was happening, and
19:51
Speaker 1: how the FBI was able to get away with this. Right,
19:53
Speaker 1: the American people need to understand and realize that not
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Speaker 1: only was there a laptop, not only were there witnesses,
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Speaker 1: not only were there emails, not only were there suspicious
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Speaker 1: activity reports one hundred plus. Then from his banking records,
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Speaker 1: you've got this email now that Congressman Ice has brought forward,
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Speaker 1: It's all there, right, the FBI knew it. The FBI
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Speaker 1: now had fourteen agents come forward as whistle blowers to
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Speaker 1: come to James Jim Jordan and James Comer and saying
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Speaker 1: to them, hey, this is how bad it is at
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Speaker 1: the FBI. You've got the FBI raiding the home of
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Speaker 1: a former president right took the phone of a sitting
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Speaker 1: member of Congress. This is the FBI who kicked in
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Speaker 1: the door of a pro life leader two weeks ago,
20:42
Speaker 1: as he said, outside of Philadelphia, arrested in front of
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Speaker 1: his wife and seven children for something local law enforcement
20:49
Speaker 1: said was not a crime, not a problem. The FBI
20:55
Speaker 1: is no longer law enforce agency at the highest levels.
20:57
Speaker 1: The FBI is a political action group of the Demo
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Speaker 1: Credit Party. And that's exactly why the president is saying
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Speaker 1: right now, the FBI, or excuse me, this why Jim
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Speaker 1: Jordan is saying the FBI should not involve themselves in
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Speaker 1: our elections. Why are they doing this? How are we
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Speaker 1: allowing them to do this? You go back to the money.
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Speaker 1: Why the FBI offered Christopher Steele a million dollars to
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Speaker 1: corroborate the dollars here because they wanted it to be true.
21:26
Speaker 1: They needed a reason to spy on Trump. Then the
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Speaker 1: candidate and his team, why would you offer a guy
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Speaker 1: that you knew was shady has held that kind of
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Speaker 1: money a million dollars because why not when you want
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Speaker 1: to undermine American democracy. The FBI's Supervisory Counterintelligence and Atlantis
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Speaker 1: Brian Otton's testimony in the first day of this criminal
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Speaker 1: trial against Igor den Chenko. It was very clear what
21:56
Speaker 1: they were trying to say and paint a picture you
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Speaker 1: the FBI paid a paid FI informant and steals primary
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Speaker 1: source to Dlsier's accused of line to the FBI. This
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Speaker 1: is a paid FBI informant, Toshenko. Durham has made it clear,
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Speaker 1: I'm accusing you of lyne the FBI to protect Charles
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Speaker 1: Dolan Junior, a communications consultant with close ties to the
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Speaker 1: Clintons quote unquote. He is also accusing Deshenko of line
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Speaker 1: to the FBI bout communications with Sir Jay Milan, who
22:30
Speaker 1: was the president of the then Russian American Chamber of
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Speaker 1: Commerce and who supposed evidence helped convince the FBI to
22:38
Speaker 1: seek at surveillance warrant against Carter Page, even though FBI
22:41
Speaker 1: agents then had to alter emails just to get that warrant.
22:45
Speaker 1: That finds a warrant, and they knew they shouldn't have
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Speaker 1: that warrant. They knew it the entire time. Yes it did,
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Speaker 1: Autumn said to Durham when asked the FBI offered steal
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Speaker 1: any incentives to provide collaborating evidence quote, mister Steele was
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Speaker 1: offered anywhere up to a million dollars for information which
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Speaker 1: could help prove the allegations that's coming from CNN, by
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Speaker 1: the way, that's reporting that. In addition not providing collaborating evidence.
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Speaker 1: Autumn also testified that Still refused to get the FBI
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Speaker 1: the identity of his sources during their October twenty sixteen meeting,
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Speaker 1: No Autumn said under oath when Durham asked that the
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Speaker 1: FBI had any collaborating evidence at all for the Still
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Speaker 1: dossier on the date the agency applied for that FISA
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Speaker 1: warrant to spy on Trump advisor Carter Page and by
23:33
Speaker 1: default then spying on the Trump campaign. If you just
23:37
Speaker 1: take a step back and you go back in time
23:40
Speaker 1: and look at this from a thousand feet up in
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Speaker 1: the ear, the fact is now Hillary Clinton and the
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Speaker 1: DNC employed a guide to come up and write a
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Speaker 1: movie that's a lie, that there was a dossier on
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and that Russia was working with the Russians
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Speaker 1: were working with Donald Trump to try to win this election.
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Speaker 1: The steel FBI meeting about all of this was on
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Speaker 1: October the third, twenty sixteen. The FBI's first surveillance warn't
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Speaker 1: on Carter page was then filed on October the twenty first,
24:18
Speaker 1: so days later, right a couple weeks later. This means
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Speaker 1: for the first time ever that we now know that
24:26
Speaker 1: the that after the FBI offered Steel a million dollars
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Speaker 1: to prove his dossier, which by the way, he couldn't,
24:36
Speaker 1: the FBI filed a surveillance warn't based on that dossier
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Speaker 1: anyway that they knew was a lie. CNN's tweet put
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Speaker 1: it this way. Shortly before the twenty sixteen election, the
24:48
Speaker 1: FBI offered retired British spy Christopher Steal up to a
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Speaker 1: million dollars to prove the explosive allegations in his dossier
24:56
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. A senior FBI analysts testified he couldn't
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Speaker 1: do it, and they said, oh screw it. Get the
25:03
Speaker 1: warrant anyway, start spying on Donald Trump. We'll get something
25:07
Speaker 1: on Donald Trump. That way. This story is going to
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25:30
Speaker 1: I want to switch gears into something that is really cool.
25:34
Speaker 1: There is a book that is coming out Harris Faulkner.
25:37
Speaker 1: You know her from the Faulkner Focus on Fox News Channel,
25:40
Speaker 1: and she also is one of the hosts of Outnumbered.
25:44
Speaker 1: She's become a good friend of mine, a dear friend
25:46
Speaker 1: of mine, as I have been a guest on Outnumbered.
25:50
Speaker 1: She has a new book out that is one that
25:53
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to get. It's not a political book,
25:55
Speaker 1: which is I think super cool. It's a book about
25:58
Speaker 1: her faith and it's a book about encouragement. And I
26:02
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to her about this today on the
26:05
Speaker 1: podcast because I found it that important we'd interviewed. I
26:08
Speaker 1: interviewed her earlier today and I want you to hear
26:10
Speaker 1: everything she had to say. Harris, It's pleasure nice to
26:14
Speaker 1: have you on my show. I'm usually sitting here with
26:16
Speaker 1: you on the couch. Well, yes, my gosh, what a
26:20
Speaker 1: warm introduction. Ben, Thank you so very much. You're blessing
26:23
Speaker 1: me already this morning. You have been our one lucky
26:26
Speaker 1: guy in the center couch. And it can get a
26:28
Speaker 1: little spirited and heat it out there, and you always
26:31
Speaker 1: bring your a game. I know it can't be easy
26:34
Speaker 1: surrounded by all those women sometimes cut you off. I mean,
26:39
Speaker 1: you really do need like some handles on the side
26:41
Speaker 1: of the section you sit on just to keep yourself
26:43
Speaker 1: in the seed. I was laughing because I was in
26:46
Speaker 1: Vegas doing an event with Ted Cruisis last week. Yeah,
26:50
Speaker 1: and somebody asked me they are right there, like what's
26:52
Speaker 1: your favorite show, and I was like, you're not supposed
26:54
Speaker 1: to say this. I was like, but the most fun
26:57
Speaker 1: show that I do is definitely out number because it
27:00
Speaker 1: never stops. It's always fast paced. You better bring your
27:04
Speaker 1: a game when you're there, otherwise you're gonna get run
27:07
Speaker 1: over by a bus. And I love that aspect of
27:10
Speaker 1: the show. I love it is. It is one of
27:13
Speaker 1: the most fun shows I've ever got to do. So,
27:15
Speaker 1: as always, thank you for having me as a guest
27:17
Speaker 1: on there. Your new book I think is so cool
27:21
Speaker 1: because it is a pause from politics. This book is
27:26
Speaker 1: not a political book. This is a book that is
27:30
Speaker 1: about faith. It's about stories of resilience, true life stories
27:36
Speaker 1: of healing and rescue and protection. And I think this
27:41
Speaker 1: is one of the coolest books. And that's why I
27:43
Speaker 1: want to have you on because it's one that is
27:47
Speaker 1: and I think COVID did this. I think COVID and
27:51
Speaker 1: this is one of the byproducts of COVID. Harrison, I
27:54
Speaker 1: think is a blessing. I think it really made people
27:57
Speaker 1: think about death in a way that it could happen.
28:02
Speaker 1: And I was one of those that I looked at
28:05
Speaker 1: my life differently because of COVID. My father almost died
28:08
Speaker 1: of COVID very early on when into the hospital, was
28:12
Speaker 1: on auction for months on and afterwards, and even just
28:17
Speaker 1: spending time with my three boys. It was priorities. And
28:20
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of men that go to work
28:22
Speaker 1: and a lot of women that go to work hers
28:24
Speaker 1: who are changing their schedules to spend more quality time
28:27
Speaker 1: with their family because that was one of the things
28:28
Speaker 1: that happened is that with COVID, everybody went home and
28:31
Speaker 1: stayed home. And yeah, you heard issues of depression and
28:35
Speaker 1: people do in anxiety, but there was also I think
28:38
Speaker 1: this kind of renewed moment of check check your priorities
28:42
Speaker 1: and think about your faith, think about your family, think
28:47
Speaker 1: about spending quality time with your family and making those memories.
28:51
Speaker 1: And that's why I think this book is so important
28:54
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, especially a book and I say
28:56
Speaker 1: this to people if you're looking for a Christmas gift,
28:59
Speaker 1: this is one of those books I would tell you
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Speaker 1: buy it now and throw it in a stocking come Christmas,
29:04
Speaker 1: because this is one of those books for family members.
29:07
Speaker 1: I think it's spot on, and I'm so proud of
29:09
Speaker 1: you for writing it. Then, thank you. Oh my gosh,
29:14
Speaker 1: just hearing that from you this morning is testimony to
29:17
Speaker 1: my soul. You know, when you start a project and
29:21
Speaker 1: it's you know, whatever topic it is, news, politics, whatever
29:25
Speaker 1: you're covering, you never really know where you're going. But
29:30
Speaker 1: this is something different. I always knew that whatever I
29:33
Speaker 1: did would leave me personally closer to the Lord, and
29:36
Speaker 1: the challenge for me was to make sure that as
29:40
Speaker 1: I was taking that journey, collecting testimony and talking with
29:45
Speaker 1: people who, as you say, we're really struggling, I was
29:51
Speaker 1: hoping that their journey would be made with that same
29:55
Speaker 1: resting place of Okay, I'm leaning in a harder with
29:58
Speaker 1: the Lord now. And look, there's no destination on earth
30:03
Speaker 1: at least where we are the closest we could ever
30:06
Speaker 1: be with the Lord. We're always going to have trials
30:09
Speaker 1: and tribulations, and we're going to have victories and successes.
30:13
Speaker 1: And if we can pray through all of it. It
30:15
Speaker 1: is amazing what we can endure. Look, we live in
30:18
Speaker 1: a world that would rather we not use the vital
30:22
Speaker 1: strategic maneuver of prayer and just give up. The world
30:27
Speaker 1: would prefer we just give up. The devil is alive,
30:31
Speaker 1: and well, well he may not be well, but he
30:34
Speaker 1: you know, and vifles out there. And yes, and what
30:42
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with this book, and it seems
30:44
Speaker 1: like it's resonating with people is meet people right where
30:47
Speaker 1: they are. You know, there's no faith walk that any
30:51
Speaker 1: of us is on that's perfect. And look, a lot
30:54
Speaker 1: of it got halted in places like California and others,
30:57
Speaker 1: just simply because during the lockdowns, mean disferensories were allowed
31:01
Speaker 1: to stay open, but they closed the places of worship.
31:05
Speaker 1: I mean, thinking about that for a second. Yeah, and
31:07
Speaker 1: you couldn't even sing. I remember they're like, all right,
31:10
Speaker 1: well you can't go to church, you can't gather. And
31:12
Speaker 1: I do think it was a scary moment in time
31:15
Speaker 1: for to see what the government not to go to
31:18
Speaker 1: church and not to sing. And the devil can be
31:20
Speaker 1: in many places. The devil can be in a place
31:23
Speaker 1: of confusion and manipulation and all of that. And what
31:27
Speaker 1: this book does is it talks with people at their
31:30
Speaker 1: very most challenged points. It can be the low point
31:33
Speaker 1: of drug addiction or getting a disease diagnosis and then
31:39
Speaker 1: living through the purgatory of fighting that disease and wondering
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Speaker 1: if there's anybody by your side, and then in a
31:47
Speaker 1: renewal process remembering, I've got the Lord. And that's what
31:53
Speaker 1: this is about. People know we live in a predominantly
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Speaker 1: faithful nation. Gallup has been looking at this issue since
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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and what that survey, that National Survey
32:04
Speaker 1: has found is that a very high percentage north of
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Speaker 1: people when they started to take the percentages, believe in
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Speaker 1: something greater than themselves and believe that God interferes and
32:20
Speaker 1: intervenes in all sorts of miraculous ways, and that he
32:24
Speaker 1: gives us free choice and when we choose him, it's
32:27
Speaker 1: amazing what can happen in our lives even in the
32:30
Speaker 1: hardest time. He is there with light and the darkest
32:34
Speaker 1: moment and dar has gone on. And as we approach
32:38
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, what Gallup is finding now and its
32:40
Speaker 1: most recent studies, is that people's belief has come down.
32:46
Speaker 1: But more importantly then the belief that God does anything
32:51
Speaker 1: in our lives is dropping faster. So they think, well,
32:54
Speaker 1: God is there, but he's not there for me. Well, no,
32:58
Speaker 1: that's not true, and he has a divine assignment. That's
33:02
Speaker 1: something I write about in the book. The purpose of
33:06
Speaker 1: each of us being here our divine assignment, and we
33:08
Speaker 1: don't want to miss that. You know, you do a
33:11
Speaker 1: beautiful job on your show, and I see when you
33:13
Speaker 1: come to visit us on Outnumbered that you bring some
33:16
Speaker 1: of your Ben's mojoe to our game. Well, there's only
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Speaker 1: one Ben Ferguson, and the Lord has not called for
33:26
Speaker 1: fifteen of you. He created you, and when you follow him,
33:30
Speaker 1: he opens doors that you can't even see. He creates
33:34
Speaker 1: moments for you that are specifically individually designed by Divinity
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Speaker 1: for you, and that enables him to use us as
33:43
Speaker 1: individuals to help others. There's a lot in this book
33:47
Speaker 1: for people who want something more and who have forgotten
33:52
Speaker 1: how to pray. Pray. You know, God is not Santa Claus.
33:56
Speaker 1: You don't just go to him and talk and ask
33:57
Speaker 1: and do all that. You have to sit in silence.
34:00
Speaker 1: You have to have the discipline to listen to him.
34:03
Speaker 1: These are people you know. Ernestine Reef in her eighties
34:09
Speaker 1: was in that huge Alabama tornado back in twenty nineteen,
34:15
Speaker 1: and former President Trump went there. He stood on that
34:17
Speaker 1: street where all those houses were destroyed. Hers was one
34:21
Speaker 1: of those houses that was torn down to its foundation.
34:25
Speaker 1: She survived, and it's been written about. I mean, you know,
34:29
Speaker 1: the grand family has preached about it. She survived in
34:32
Speaker 1: a prayer closet in her home that she had put together.
34:36
Speaker 1: Now what does a prayer closet look like. I don't know.
34:39
Speaker 1: It was just some like extra like broom closet in
34:41
Speaker 1: her house. He didn't have anything special about it. But
34:44
Speaker 1: she always had activity in her house and she needed
34:46
Speaker 1: someplace where she could, through the years go and pray.
34:51
Speaker 1: And do you know that she was praying gratitude to
34:54
Speaker 1: the Lord as he was ripping apart everything around her.
34:57
Speaker 1: Her hip was broken in that store. She didn't reach
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Speaker 1: it without being scathed or without struggles. But when the
35:05
Speaker 1: paramedics pulled her out alive, she said, Praise the Lord.
35:09
Speaker 1: And the world talks about these moments because we need
35:13
Speaker 1: to know the testimony so that we can make sure
35:16
Speaker 1: we're making our own You know you you talk about
35:19
Speaker 1: some people still moves mountains. Oh, it does still moves mountains,
35:24
Speaker 1: and you've got to be ready. Yeah, you talk about
35:28
Speaker 1: this in this book and again faith still moves mountains.
35:32
Speaker 1: It's the book. You need to grab it. It comes
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35:36
Speaker 1: It's going to be a fabulous Christmas gift. But here's
35:40
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that has happened in
35:42
Speaker 1: society is we become so add and you just mentioned this, Um,
35:46
Speaker 1: this is my mission field. I start in radio when
35:49
Speaker 1: I was twelve, I start in TV when I was seventeen,
35:52
Speaker 1: and this is my mission field. I have no doubt
35:54
Speaker 1: that God put me on earth as an imperfect person
35:57
Speaker 1: to talk about politics and write in but as a
36:01
Speaker 1: mentor of mine told me several years ago, and I
36:04
Speaker 1: constantly have to remind myself of this. Your relationship with
36:07
Speaker 1: God can't be nine one one right. Only talk to
36:11
Speaker 1: him when you need help, right, nine one one help.
36:13
Speaker 1: I have an emergency, right, I'm in a bad situation.
36:16
Speaker 1: I've screwed up in life. I need your help real quick.
36:19
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of what you're saying in
36:21
Speaker 1: this book is you have to have a relationship, not
36:24
Speaker 1: just out nine one when you desperately need him. And
36:27
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that I think is
36:30
Speaker 1: one of the sad things that happened with COVID is
36:32
Speaker 1: the numbers we have still. I've talked to many pastors.
36:35
Speaker 1: They've said that the congregation shrunk obviously with the lockdowns
36:39
Speaker 1: and COVID and with them not allowing us to have
36:41
Speaker 1: church in many parts of the country, and the people
36:44
Speaker 1: have not come back to the levels that were pre COVID.
36:46
Speaker 1: And that worries me about this country is that people now,
36:49
Speaker 1: I think, are trying to just survive on their own
36:52
Speaker 1: and they're forgetting how important not just you know, I
36:55
Speaker 1: think faith and having a pirch relationship with Jesus crisis,
36:58
Speaker 1: but also the community that you surround found yourself within.
37:01
Speaker 1: The faith based community has been disseminated, has been crushed
37:05
Speaker 1: because of COVID, And that's something that you need to
37:08
Speaker 1: understand from this book, is is we need to go
37:10
Speaker 1: back to that community and encourage and love on one
37:13
Speaker 1: another and support one another. And so here's some good news.
37:19
Speaker 1: Here's some good news with that. Because I was talking
37:21
Speaker 1: with pastors just recently, because I've been put in a
37:25
Speaker 1: position now that I never thought i'd be put in,
37:27
Speaker 1: Like I never thought I'd do this book because I'm
37:31
Speaker 1: a journalist, and I wondered, I asked him, I said, well,
37:34
Speaker 1: how much should I let people know that this is
37:37
Speaker 1: one of the highlights of my career, Like, well, people
37:40
Speaker 1: think less of me as a journalist and the pastors
37:44
Speaker 1: and reverends in my life that I go to for
37:47
Speaker 1: those big questions because I and my father died Schistmas Day,
37:54
Speaker 1: my mother died Thanksgiving previously three years so I don't
37:59
Speaker 1: have and I seek out those people who I know
38:04
Speaker 1: are leaving like fathers in our communities. And what I
38:08
Speaker 1: was told very quickly was right on this. Don't be
38:13
Speaker 1: led to the leaves that you can't do all things
38:17
Speaker 1: because you've been given something new to do. And I said,
38:21
Speaker 1: it's not my job to prophesies them. They said, it's
38:23
Speaker 1: not your job to do anything but be a witness
38:26
Speaker 1: and tell the testimony. But you can't be untouched by it.
38:31
Speaker 1: And when you speak and when you gather, so I'm
38:34
Speaker 1: getting to your appointment. When you gather, you teach and
38:39
Speaker 1: show others the gift of gathering. If you gather and
38:43
Speaker 1: talk on a podcast was been For example, on out Numbers,
38:48
Speaker 1: we've done a segment on renewed faith. Faith still moves mountains.
38:53
Speaker 1: Those moments are not about Harris Faulkner sat down and
38:56
Speaker 1: wrote a book. Those moments are a conduit of the
39:01
Speaker 1: information that I'm doing the people so that they can
39:04
Speaker 1: go and use it. And you can take my voice
39:06
Speaker 1: right out of it. You can read it for yourself.
39:09
Speaker 1: You can listen to the audiobook. My voice is on that,
39:12
Speaker 1: but in the book there's also the voices and the
39:17
Speaker 1: stories of people that are the conduits of information that
39:21
Speaker 1: we need to get back to prayer and faith. I'm
39:24
Speaker 1: not saying that it's going to be a perfect faith walk,
39:27
Speaker 1: and minute you begin to pray, you need a place
39:31
Speaker 1: to pray, you need a time to pray, and you
39:35
Speaker 1: need to listen when you pray. Those are three things
39:38
Speaker 1: that we can start practicing the moment someone shares that
39:42
Speaker 1: information and renews our spirit. So I'm having mind renewed
39:46
Speaker 1: because you can't light the path for others without that
39:50
Speaker 1: light shining residually on the people who are coming from
39:54
Speaker 1: every direction speaking the light. And I feel incredibly blessed
40:00
Speaker 1: who have written this book, and I feel like I
40:03
Speaker 1: know a lot about people's lives that I probably shouldn't know.
40:07
Speaker 1: I mean, how much tabloid stuff are people going to
40:10
Speaker 1: lean into? That was one real negative of the pandemic.
40:13
Speaker 1: People spent more time on TikTok than they did looking
40:16
Speaker 1: at the TikTok of their watch to figure out what
40:18
Speaker 1: time is my prayer session with God today? And you
40:20
Speaker 1: don't have to sit for an hour with him, Go
40:23
Speaker 1: sit for five minutes, go sit for fifteen minutes, and
40:26
Speaker 1: go to a quiet place like Ernestine Leaf found in
40:31
Speaker 1: her prayer posts. Don't find that place for yourself and
40:35
Speaker 1: lean in with the Lord. And if people get that
40:38
Speaker 1: when they read this book and get it reinforced and
40:40
Speaker 1: find more tools of strategies to make a difference on
40:45
Speaker 1: this planet for themselves and in their relationship with God.
40:50
Speaker 1: And we have moved a mountain deck together, it's incredible. Well,
40:55
Speaker 1: it's obvious that this book is going to be really impactful.
40:58
Speaker 1: It will impact people's lives. Make sure you grab it
41:02
Speaker 1: the title Faith Still Moves Mountain Harris, I'm so glad
41:05
Speaker 1: that I got to have you on today, and we'll
41:07
Speaker 1: have you back soon. I look forward to seeing me
41:08
Speaker 1: on the set soon as well in New York. And
41:10
Speaker 1: it's obvious that God has his hand on you in
41:12
Speaker 1: your career, in the ability to make this book, write
41:15
Speaker 1: this book, and reach so many others with the power
41:17
Speaker 1: of these stories of healing, in the power of prayer.
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Speaker 1: So thanks for coming on and I'll see you soon. Absolutely,
41:23
Speaker 1: you can get it at Fox News Books dot Com, Amazon,
41:26
Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble. Everybody has it in pre order right now.
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Speaker 1: And Ben, thank you so very much again. You'ven bless
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Speaker 1: me today. Hey, hey, your listeners, see you all right.
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Speaker 1: I will see you guys back here tomorrow. Also, don't
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Speaker 1: forget download Ted Cruises podcast Verdict. We had a very
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Speaker 1: interesting conversation about the FBI. You don't want to miss
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Speaker 1: that as I'm the new co host of his podcast Verdicts.
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Speaker 1: So makes you download the Tech Cruise podcast Verdict as well.
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Speaker 1: And I will see you back here tomorrow.