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DOJ Targets BLM Over Alleged Fraud plus a 401(k) Shake-Up as Gold, Silver & Crypto Enter Retirement Portfolios · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: The Department of Justice, we now have learned, is investigating
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Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter Why for the misuse they're saying of donations.
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Speaker 1: The Justice Department is probing whether Black Lives Matter defrauded
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Speaker 1: donors who sent the organization millions of dollars during the
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Speaker 1: racial justice protests in twenty twenty. This coming from the
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Speaker 1: Associated Press. We also know that federal law enforcement authorities
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Speaker 1: have issued subpoenas and served a search warrant as part
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Speaker 1: of an investigation into Black Lives Matter. The Global Network Foundation, Inc.
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Speaker 1: That helped ignite the protests in US cities following the
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Speaker 1: death of George Floyd in Minnesota in May of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: That coming again from anonymous sources. Now, protests in some
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Speaker 1: locations resulted in deaths, lots of rioting, looting, fires, and
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Speaker 1: extensive property destruction. According to the Associated Press, it was
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Speaker 1: not clear if the investigation would result in criminal charges,
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Speaker 1: but its mere existence invites fresh scrutiny to a movement
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Speaker 1: that in recent years has faced criticism about its public
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Speaker 1: accounting of donations it has received. The Justice Department, by
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Speaker 1: the way, has declined to comment on the report. Why
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Speaker 1: because clearly they're working on this and they don't want
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Speaker 1: to tip anyone off. Now, the investigation actually began, just
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Speaker 1: so you understand the timeline here in the Biden administration that,
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Speaker 1: according to one of the AP sources, and has received
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Speaker 1: renewed attention during the Trump administration. The BOM Foundation said
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Speaker 1: it took in over ninety million dollars in donations following
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Speaker 1: the highly publicized death of George Floyd, who was seen
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Speaker 1: on that viral video struggling to breathe under the knee
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Speaker 1: of a white Minneapolis police officer who was later convicted
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Speaker 1: of murder. Now, critics have accused the nonprofit foundation of
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Speaker 1: not being forthcoming about how it was spending the donations
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Speaker 1: that they were receiving that were in the tens of
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Critics of the organization have looked at
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Speaker 1: a very shocking moment in twenty twenty two when it
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Speaker 1: was learned that some of the funds that were raised
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Speaker 1: in the name of George Floyd actually went to purchase
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Speaker 1: a six million dollar mansion in Los Angeles, six bedrooms,
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Speaker 1: six baths, a swimming pool, and other luxury amenities. The
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Speaker 1: co founder of BLM also admitted that she used the
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Speaker 1: group's six million property to host personal parties. The BLM
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Speaker 1: leader later resigned in twenty twenty three after much of
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Speaker 1: the information I've just told you went public.
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Speaker 2: The Associated Press also reports.
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Speaker 1: That no prior investigations into the nonprofits finances have quote
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Speaker 1: yielded proof of impropriety. The latest federal form filing, the
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Speaker 1: Wire Service reported, shows that BOM Foundation had twenty eight
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Speaker 1: million in assets for the fiscal year ending June twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. The current investigation is reportedly being run out
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Speaker 1: of the US Attorney's Office for the Central District of
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Speaker 1: California in LA. In his statement to the AP on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: the foundation said it is not a target of any
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Speaker 1: federal criminal investigation, saying, quote, we remain committed to full transparency, accountability,
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Speaker 1: and the responsible stewardship of resources dedicated to building a
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Speaker 1: better future for black communities. The Black Lives Matter slogan
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Speaker 1: that first emerged back in twenty thirteen after the acquittal
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Speaker 1: of Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who fatally shot his
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Speaker 1: seventeen year old Trayvon Martin in Florida, is what was
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Speaker 1: legally ruled a standard ground case. It was the death
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Speaker 1: the following year of Michael Brown who was shot as
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Speaker 1: he charged a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. That made
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Speaker 1: the slogan black Lives Matter a national and later a
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Speaker 1: worldwide rallying cry for leftists social justice. So here we
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Speaker 1: are now the DOJ seeming to do the job that
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Speaker 1: should have been done under the Biden administration, looking into
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Speaker 1: the misuse of the donations that were in the name
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Speaker 1: of social justice but in reality may have been going
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Speaker 1: just to buy luxury houses for the people at the
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Speaker 1: top of the Black Lives Matter organization. You may have
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Speaker 1: noticed that the Fed met and they did something with
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Speaker 1: interest rates. It has now had a pretty big impact
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Speaker 1: on the market, and that includes gold and silver. Joining
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Speaker 1: me now to talk about what this can mean for
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Speaker 1: your retirement. Your four oh one k is Kurt Elliott
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Speaker 1: with Kurt Elliott Precious Metals.
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Speaker 2: Kurt.
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Speaker 1: So, the Fed did what Donald Trump has been asking
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Speaker 1: for and saying is long overdue. They cut interest rates
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Speaker 1: again by another quarter point. That is good news and
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Speaker 1: theory for a lot of Americans. What is it doing
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Speaker 1: in the markets? What's it doing with gold and silver?
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Speaker 3: Well, whenever you lower interest rates, it should stimulate the economy, right, Ben,
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is why Trump wants it done.
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Speaker 4: He knows this, and it did just that.
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Speaker 3: So so gold and silver doing really well. Silver had
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Speaker 3: come off of its high last week. It hit fifty
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Speaker 3: four dollars an ounce, very over bought. Literally technically it
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Speaker 3: was very overbought because it went up so fast, so furious.
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Speaker 3: You know, it is up about nineteen percent in two weeks.
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Speaker 3: Then it needed to correct, right, So it came down
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Speaker 3: five dollars in a matter of four or five days,
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Speaker 3: and people thought, oh the world isn't what's up? Silver
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Speaker 3: is supposed to go up, you know what it is
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Speaker 3: because the bed lowered interest rates. Gold and silver respond
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Speaker 3: very well to interest rate reductions because for silver, that
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Speaker 3: means the economy is going to grow, right, It's like
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Speaker 3: when when you lower the cost of borrowing. When you
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Speaker 3: when you lower that, people are going to spend more.
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Speaker 3: And silver more than anything. Is A is a manufacturing medal,
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Speaker 3: not a financial medal like gold. It's a it's a
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Speaker 3: manufacturing medal. So the propensity for growth, for usage, for
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Speaker 3: extra demand is there. And silver did the turnaround and
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Speaker 3: it's honest, way back up again. I mean, these these
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Speaker 3: markets spend. These precious metals markets are like buoys in
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Speaker 3: the ocean. You just can't keep them down right.
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Speaker 1: Now, it's it really is incredible, and it's like you said,
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Speaker 1: this is a world trading market.
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Speaker 2: When it comes to gold and silver.
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Speaker 1: There's also some changes that are coming to how you
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Speaker 1: can can invest in and deal with gold and silver
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Speaker 1: in your retirement account. That deadliner or that that I
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Speaker 1: guess door opening is coming very soon, and so there
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Speaker 1: also seems to be a lot of movement there as well.
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Speaker 3: A lot of movement, and that's part of the demand,
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Speaker 3: right because once that happens the first week in February,
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Speaker 3: when when you know for your listeners who don't know,
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Speaker 3: it's part of the executive order signed on August seventh
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Speaker 3: to democratization of alternative assets. In four to one case,
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Speaker 3: it's going to allow cryptocurrency direct and indirect ownership of commodities,
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Speaker 3: which golden silver is a commodity, and real estate in a.
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Speaker 4: Four to oh one k then it's a twelve trillion.
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Speaker 3: Dollar market, like we've talked about before. So people, if
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Speaker 3: you wait until after that kind of marketplace opens its door, well,
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Speaker 3: prices are going to be way high, right, So people
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Speaker 3: are getting in now in anticipation of that. And that's
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Speaker 3: one thing that I tell investors all the time is
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Speaker 3: I would rather be one or two or three months
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Speaker 3: early than a day late. And something as fundamentally massive
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Speaker 3: as this is, it's always better to be early than
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Speaker 3: a day late because daylight you might run out of inventory.
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Speaker 3: You don't know what's going to happen. In fact, London.
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Speaker 3: We have to remember this. In the financial world, financial
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Speaker 3: world and in the precious metals world, all roads lead
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Speaker 3: to London. They do for every single country. All roads
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Speaker 3: lead to London. Well, London is for all intents and
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Speaker 3: purposes out of silver. They've depleted their free flow silver supply. Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, for investors it's like, okay, we can lock
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Speaker 3: in silver prices, but maybe it's going to be delayed
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Speaker 3: delivery because refineries now are basically going flat inventory. They're
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Speaker 3: not holding anything because the cost of carrying is too high,
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Speaker 3: so they're manufacturing on demand. This is where it gets tricky.
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Speaker 5: Ben.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't work if you're Tesla or Lockheed Martin and
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Speaker 3: you're making missiles and torpedoes or your Sony and you're
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Speaker 3: making flat screen TVs, having a one to two months
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Speaker 3: lay in delivery times because the exchange is out could
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Speaker 3: mean the life or death of their company. Or if
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Speaker 3: you're an investor, yeah, it's a pain point at stressful.
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Speaker 3: It's like, am I ever going to get myself? It's
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Speaker 3: different when you're talking about a company.
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Speaker 4: So what are they going to do.
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Speaker 3: When London runs out? I have a feeling they're going
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Speaker 3: to start going directly to the source. They're going to
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Speaker 3: go to the refineries of the world and say, hey,
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Speaker 3: look we know if at silver sixty dollars ounce, we're
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Speaker 3: going to offer eighty, we'll offer a hundred, we'll offer
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty. We need to be at the
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Speaker 3: top of the queue because we're not going to pay
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Speaker 3: for it, We're just going to pass it on to
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Speaker 3: the consumer. This is economics one oh one, and it's
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Speaker 3: the lifeblood of your company needs a commodity that the
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Speaker 3: exchange ran out of, They're going to skip the exchange
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Speaker 3: and go directly to the source, the refinery and get
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Speaker 3: it that way because the lifeblood of the company depends
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Speaker 3: on it. And this is what happens in an industrialized
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Speaker 3: world where silver is needed for electronics and AI chips
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Speaker 3: and cryptocurrency, mining and electronics and electric vehicles and everything
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Speaker 3: that we use right now. If you don't have it,
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Speaker 3: you don't have the product. And those companies can't manufacture,
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Speaker 3: so they will find it and we as holders get
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Speaker 3: to ultimately sell into that strength. And that's the amazing
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Speaker 3: part of all of us. To me, there's hope in
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Speaker 3: this message.
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Speaker 2: And hope is the other aspect of this.
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Speaker 1: I think that people are really wanting to ask, is
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Speaker 1: looking forward in the future, where do we see, for example,
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Speaker 1: gold and silver going knowing that there is a lack
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Speaker 1: of silver in different parts of the world right now,
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Speaker 1: and it's being bought up for so many different things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's being bought up for everything that
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Speaker 3: we just mentioned. But we're still in a war torn economy,
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Speaker 3: right This is a war economy that we're in when
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Speaker 3: you look at what's happening with Russian and Ukraine and
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Speaker 3: in the Middle East. And I mean, so missiles and
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Speaker 3: torpedoes need silver, nuclear power needs silver, solar power needs silver,
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Speaker 3: electric vehicles need silver, all electronic circuit boards and AI
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Speaker 3: chips need silver. Right, So it's like I don't see
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Speaker 3: any of those things diminishing in demand in fact, I
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Speaker 3: only see them increasing in demand. It's like, oh wait,
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Speaker 3: there's a problem. Supply isn't increasing. Supply is actually diminishing. Right,
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Speaker 3: So when you when you look at what's happening London
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Speaker 3: being out of silver because they have to now buy
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Speaker 3: it on the open market to fulfill the over selling
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Speaker 3: that they've done. This is how they've manipulated the markets
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Speaker 3: for decades. This is not a new thing. Then what's
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Speaker 3: new is they've actually run out. You can't manipulate something
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Speaker 3: where you have no inventory, because if somebody wants it,
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Speaker 3: you could say, well, play with the paper price, we'll
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Speaker 3: sort it, we'll do this, we'll do that. But ultimately,
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Speaker 3: if you have no inventory and there's an exchange for
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Speaker 3: physicals and the manufacturers of the world needed, they're going
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Speaker 3: to start offering any price and London could go bankrupt
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Speaker 3: over this. By London, I'm talking about the LBMA, the
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Speaker 3: London Bulliant Marketing Association, where all the metals are stored.
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Speaker 3: Well does China care? Literally, this is a question we
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Speaker 3: answer ourselves, well, why wouldn't they just sell? They have silver,
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Speaker 3: they've been buying it so as comets still of India,
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Speaker 3: but all roads lead to London. If it's not in
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Speaker 3: the right place, it can't be fulfilled. So why don't
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Speaker 3: they release it? Well, because maybe they want to squeeze
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Speaker 3: London out of business. Maybe they want to say, hey, look,
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Speaker 3: we want to take over the Western financial banking system.
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Speaker 3: We want to take over the supplies of gold and
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Speaker 3: silver in that supply chain globally and have it go
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Speaker 3: to the Shanghai gold extent. So I don't think that
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Speaker 3: China is in this for profit. I think they're in
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Speaker 3: this to destroy London as the gold and silver capital
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Speaker 3: of the world. And they're doing a pretty good job
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Speaker 3: at it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they really are.
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Speaker 1: com Kurt. When you're looking into the holidays here, what
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Speaker 1: traditionally do you see with gold and silver over the holidays?
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Speaker 1: And also if you combine that in with the rules
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Speaker 1: that are about to change retirement accounts, it's going to
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Speaker 1: change when it comes to crypto and also gold and silver.
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Speaker 1: Is that going to change things over the next ninety days.
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Speaker 3: Well, generally during the holidays, it's low volume trading, you know,
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Speaker 3: the markets kind of come down a little bit. I
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Speaker 3: don't see that that's going to be the case this year.
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Speaker 3: This year is something completely different again. The fundamentals of
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Speaker 3: what's going on. Are there going to be tariffs on
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Speaker 3: strategic metals or are there not? Is there going to
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Speaker 3: be continued war or is there not? What about consuming public?
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Speaker 3: Are they going to keep spending or not. There's so
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Speaker 3: much different this year that I don't see a downturn
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Speaker 3: in metals prices really during this holiday season like we
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Speaker 3: normally see. Then you add to that the black swamp
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Speaker 3: of the executive order and gold and silver being available
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Speaker 3: for four to one k is, you know, if the
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Speaker 3: administrators will allow it, you know, each company. I mean,
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Speaker 3: we've got a lot of built up demand. This holiday
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Speaker 3: season I believe is going to be different.
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Speaker 1: Now all of this is happening while there's another story
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Speaker 1: that is breaking, another shocking story, and it deals with
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Speaker 1: Jack Smith. Devin Nunyez is now exposing Jack Smith and
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Speaker 1: telling us that they sought Trump media bank records, is
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Speaker 1: what we're being told Donald Trump saying these thugs should
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Speaker 1: be investigated. Trump Media and Technology Group Corporation TMTG CEO
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Speaker 1: and former Congressman Devin Nunyez on Thursday accused former special
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Speaker 1: counsel Jack Smith of wielding a shockingly broad secret subpoena
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Speaker 1: for the banking records of the Trump Media Empire, despite
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Speaker 1: the company not even existing at the time of his
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Speaker 1: underlying investigation. Tm TG was among the more four hundred
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Speaker 1: Trump linked individuals in organizations that were spied on as
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Speaker 1: part of special counsel Jack Smith's investigation of President Donald Trump. Specifically,
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Speaker 1: the Smith team issued as shockingly broad and secret subpoena
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Speaker 1: for our banking records. Nunez says in a statement on
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Speaker 1: True Social saying, quote, this is a stunning abuse of
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Speaker 1: power against a private business and are hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 1: of retail investors, especially since Trump Media did not even
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Speaker 1: exist at the time of the events that Jack Smith
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Speaker 1: was supposedly investigating. Nou Neez called for answers from both
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Speaker 1: the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC and JP Morgan
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Speaker 1: Chase on whether they were aware of the subpoena and
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Speaker 1: whether bank records were actually leaked. According the subpoena issued
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Speaker 1: to JP Morgan Chase, image of which none is shared
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Speaker 1: on social media platform, the demand covers any and all
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Speaker 1: records in your possession, custody or control for all accounts
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Speaker 1: and or trust accounts in the name of bearing the signature,
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Speaker 1: authority of, or with the ability to be accessed by
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Speaker 1: the named parties below listing TMTG among the named entities.
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Speaker 1: The subpoena spans the time period from September one, twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: to October thirty first of twenty twenty one, and requests
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Speaker 1: an extensive array of records, including checking and saving account statements,
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Speaker 1: opening documents, wire transfers, ACCH payments, credit and debit memos,
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Speaker 1: loan and mortgage payments, safe deposit box records, debit card
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Speaker 1: transaction histories, IP addresses, cookie data, and other account inquiry metadata.
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Speaker 1: In other words, a full blown fishing expedition by the
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Speaker 1: DOJ and the FBI. Meanwhile, Smith's investigation, initiated by the
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Speaker 1: Attorney General Meyrick Garland in November of twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: has drawn intense scrutiny. The probe encompasses Trump's handling of
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Speaker 1: classified documents, efforts they lied about to overturn the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty election, and alleges obstruction of justice and other matters.
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Speaker 1: In recent weeks, the Senate Judiciary Committee leaked documents showing
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Speaker 1: Smith's team issued one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas covering
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Speaker 1: at least four hundred and thirty individuals and entities as
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Speaker 1: part of an investigation dubbed Arctic Frost.
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Speaker 2: GOP.
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Speaker 1: Lawmakers have accused Smith of improperly targeting members of Congress
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Speaker 1: and others, and Smith's Council nonetheless defended the approach as
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Speaker 1: quote entirely proper and lawful. We'll see where this goes,
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Speaker 1: but there's a very good chance this is the tip
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Speaker 1: of the Arctic frost iceberg. All right, I want to
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Speaker 1: play for you now something else, and this is how
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Speaker 1: we're finding out so much about the corruption of Jack
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Speaker 1: Smith and how he sought the media record, the Trump
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Speaker 1: media bank records, among others, including one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: other Republicans that were apparently spied on for no damn reason.
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Speaker 1: Gretav Ancestern on Newsmax had Jim Jordan on to talk
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Speaker 1: about this, and she started with Donald Trump's true social
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Speaker 1: post about what we're now learning. I want you to
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Speaker 1: listen closely to this conversation.
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Speaker 6: These thugs should all be investigated and put in prison.
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Speaker 6: A disgrace to humanity. Deranged Jack Smith is a criminal
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Speaker 6: end quote shamed of the hout Judiciary committee that released
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Speaker 6: those files. Hile carsman, Jim Jordan joins me, good evenings, sir,
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Speaker 6: and do have all the FBI files.
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Speaker 5: On this, well, we hope, but we're going to continue
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Speaker 5: to work with Director Patel and get every piece of
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Speaker 5: information we can. God bless the cash and and of
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Speaker 5: course Pam Bondi, because they've been night and day difference
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Speaker 5: between them and what we have with Mary Garland and
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Speaker 5: Christopher Ray. But I think the big takeaway here is
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Speaker 5: how much broader and more expansive this was. It wasn't
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Speaker 5: just that they took the phone of a sitting member
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Speaker 5: of Congress when they took Scott Perry's phone. It wasn't
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Speaker 5: just that they spied on eight United States Senators. Now
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Speaker 5: we learn it's over one hundred and fifty individuals, key
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Speaker 5: people in the Trump administration, key people that they went after,
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Speaker 5: getting communications, phone records, bank records, all kinds of things
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Speaker 5: they were going after. This is how expansive Artie Frost
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Speaker 5: started out, and how it even expanded even more when
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Speaker 5: Jack Smith was named special counsel and when he took
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Speaker 5: over the investigation. And finally I would say this, Greta,
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Speaker 5: this is why we want to talk to Jack Smith.
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Speaker 5: Why we've asked him to come in for a deposition
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Speaker 5: as soon as possible. We got to ask him questions
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Speaker 5: because we've already deposed two of his deputies, and they
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Speaker 5: took the fifth seventy one and seventy three times mister Brad,
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Speaker 5: mister Wyndham exercised their fift Amendment liberties, wouldn't answer questions
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Speaker 5: like was this all political? Were you going after this
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Speaker 5: to undermine and hurt President Trump in a political way?
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Speaker 5: How about any other people you surveilled or spied on
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Speaker 5: that in addition to the eight United States senators. Both
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Speaker 5: of those questions they wouldn't answer. So we want to
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Speaker 5: talk to Jack Smith, the guy who ran the investigation,
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Speaker 5: find out what kind of answers he'll give us.
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Speaker 6: Do when they went after all these records of these people,
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Speaker 6: did they have a warrant? Did they get one from
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Speaker 6: the grand jury or assigned warrant from a judge? Do
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Speaker 6: they have a warrant? Or were they just being cowboys
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Speaker 6: and going through these people, these records of these the targets.
21:39
Speaker 5: Again, questions will ask. I think they did have a warrant.
21:42
Speaker 5: I think they moved that way. But we want to
21:44
Speaker 5: we want to figure all this out. We knew that
21:48
Speaker 5: Jack Smith had, you know, put the gagolder on President Trump.
21:51
Speaker 5: We knew we had raided Mara Lago. We knew that
21:52
Speaker 5: one of one of Jack Smith's deputies confronted a lawyer
21:57
Speaker 5: for one of the defendants and looked like the offering me.
22:00
Speaker 5: It's kind of almost a bribe situation. He said, we
22:02
Speaker 5: thought you were interested in this judge position. We didn't
22:04
Speaker 5: know you were a Trump guy, you know, kind of
22:06
Speaker 5: hint hint, wink wink when when they talked to Stanley Woodward.
22:10
Speaker 5: So there's all this that went on, But the big
22:12
Speaker 5: takeaways for me are eight United States senators, a sitting
22:15
Speaker 5: member of Congress they took the phone up, and two
22:17
Speaker 5: of his deputies whom we've already to post, who wouldn't
22:20
Speaker 5: answer our questions. So that's why we want to talk
22:23
Speaker 5: to Jacksonith. You know what, the other thing.
22:24
Speaker 6: Choices when you look at the breath of investigation like
22:27
Speaker 6: this with you know, over one hundred and fifty or
22:29
Speaker 6: even if you go to the lower number that you
22:31
Speaker 6: just you just listed, is that they didn't indict or
22:34
Speaker 6: charge any of these people. So you get sort of
22:36
Speaker 6: the idea that they were just looking for every thing
22:39
Speaker 6: every place you know that you know, you know, what
22:41
Speaker 6: could possibly be a legitimate reason if they didn't if
22:44
Speaker 6: they didn't strike gold on anybody.
22:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you're right they were. I
22:49
Speaker 5: think this was political. I think this was the Left
22:52
Speaker 5: saying we're going to go after these people. We're going
22:54
Speaker 5: to use this whole alternate elector uh reason as as
22:59
Speaker 5: the base for why we're doing this investigation. We saw
23:02
Speaker 5: the one email, but between it looked like between an
23:06
Speaker 5: agent and a and a source talking about former cheapest
23:10
Speaker 5: staff Mark Meadows was involved in some kind of treasonous activity,
23:13
Speaker 5: which was just ridiculous. So this was the mindset. I
23:17
Speaker 5: think it also gets to that who are these folks
23:20
Speaker 5: in the FBI who are putting these emails together saying
23:23
Speaker 5: that there's there's there's reason to believe that the cheapest
23:26
Speaker 5: staff to the president of the United States was engaged
23:29
Speaker 5: in treason this behavior that's just ridiculous. But that reason said,
23:33
Speaker 5: and it makes no sense.
23:35
Speaker 6: I hate them when these reason to believe. Okay, the
23:38
Speaker 6: documents that you believe had a lot of black spots
23:40
Speaker 6: on them, a lot of redactions. Is that something you
23:43
Speaker 6: did or the FBI did. And the reason that matters
23:45
Speaker 6: is because you really can't read those documents unless, I mean,
23:48
Speaker 6: you know, for full transparency. Why is everything being kept
23:51
Speaker 6: a secret? Basically there's no I mean, if we want
23:54
Speaker 6: to uncover what happened you know, to give it, you know,
23:56
Speaker 6: put to find out if anything dirty was done. We
23:59
Speaker 6: really need to do. We need to be able to
24:00
Speaker 6: read everything, and nobody should be running for cover with
24:03
Speaker 6: doing redactions.
24:04
Speaker 5: We didn't put the redactions on. That's how they came
24:07
Speaker 5: from the Justice Department. You're right, we need to have
24:10
Speaker 5: we need to be able to read it all in
24:12
Speaker 5: full context. But I would go a step further and
24:15
Speaker 5: say the name's under there, I actually want to ask
24:18
Speaker 5: them questions. I want to find out, like, who's this
24:21
Speaker 5: source giving this look? To me when I read it, it
24:23
Speaker 5: looks like under the redaction to be the source. And
24:26
Speaker 5: then the agent who's getting the information. I want to
24:29
Speaker 5: know who that source is. I want to know who
24:31
Speaker 5: that agent is saying these ridiculous things that get put
24:34
Speaker 5: in an email and sent to someone else as part
24:36
Speaker 5: of this investigation. So I think it's even more than that,
24:39
Speaker 5: not just who those what those names are. I want
24:41
Speaker 5: to talk to those people. I want to ask them questions.
24:43
Speaker 5: So that's that's where I think we try to go next.
24:45
Speaker 6: Well, that's the starter. The starter is to find out
24:48
Speaker 6: who they are. Were the redactions done during the Trump
24:50
Speaker 6: administration or during the Brenda Biden administration or the Trump administration.
24:55
Speaker 6: And who I mean, who is it? Someone up in
24:57
Speaker 6: some room with a big black marker someplace. I mean,
25:00
Speaker 6: who's doing these things?
25:01
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's just I think got standard practice
25:04
Speaker 5: at the Justice which.
25:05
Speaker 6: Is not good. Which is not good. That's not good.
25:08
Speaker 5: I mean, And I don't know which one. I don't
25:11
Speaker 5: know which FBI did it. My gut tells me it
25:13
Speaker 5: was probably That's how the documents were in the ray
25:17
Speaker 5: FBI that Director Patel has gotten his hands on now
25:21
Speaker 5: and giving to us. But I don't know that, but
25:23
Speaker 5: that'd be my guess. But my understanding is that's just
25:26
Speaker 5: standard names, phone numbers of agents, phone numbers and sources
25:31
Speaker 5: names and sort of. That's just standard how they do it.
25:32
Speaker 5: But we want to know now because we saw how
25:35
Speaker 5: broad and how expansive this is. We want to know
25:37
Speaker 5: who those people are so we can ask them questions.
25:40
Speaker 6: Well, if you're then involved in investigation, especially a government person,
25:43
Speaker 6: you don't have your name not blackened out so that
25:45
Speaker 6: we can see who it is. We can see who's
25:47
Speaker 6: doing what I get if it's a confidential source, it's
25:50
Speaker 6: going to get shot on the street or something. If
25:51
Speaker 6: we reveal it. But the fact that some way and
25:54
Speaker 6: I'm told, I'm always told that's the way it's done, well,
25:56
Speaker 6: that's never satisfied me because that usually means it's sort
25:59
Speaker 6: of like, well, I think so classified in this town
26:01
Speaker 6: because that's the way it's done. But that's where the
26:03
Speaker 6: lack of transparency, you know, And we could get to that.
26:05
Speaker 6: We could get to the end of this very quickly
26:08
Speaker 6: if we could read everything and see it, and even
26:10
Speaker 6: if they turned it over to you unredacted, it would
26:12
Speaker 6: be good. I mean, I realized maybe it won't turn
26:14
Speaker 6: it into the public, but you know, I don't know
26:15
Speaker 6: how you do an investigation when you can't get all
26:17
Speaker 6: the material.
26:19
Speaker 5: Well, we're working on finding out what the name is
26:21
Speaker 5: underneath those those those those black lines. We want to
26:24
Speaker 5: know who the name is or what the name is.
26:26
Speaker 5: We want to know who that individual is, so again
26:28
Speaker 5: we can we can ask them questions like where did
26:30
Speaker 5: they I think, particularly that the email I keep citing,
26:33
Speaker 5: I won't know who that source is because I think
26:35
Speaker 5: it's the source that they were using. Who was the
26:38
Speaker 5: person alleging that the former chiefest staff was engaged? That's
26:42
Speaker 5: just just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
26:44
Speaker 6: Well, do you know what though, But it's a little
26:46
Speaker 6: bit like when they were using that guy Steel as
26:48
Speaker 6: a source. They kept using it wouldn't tell. But if
26:50
Speaker 6: anyone had pulled, if anyone had investigated Steel, you wouldn't
26:52
Speaker 6: have used him as a source, you know. But if
26:55
Speaker 6: you just say the person, say source, and black it out,
26:57
Speaker 6: there's no way to challenge whether it's someone who has
26:59
Speaker 6: good information or if someone's got an ax to grind
27:02
Speaker 6: or whatever.
27:03
Speaker 5: You know, that's right, and not to mention the sub
27:07
Speaker 5: sources that Steele was using, who would just further complicates
27:10
Speaker 5: it means there's more lies than that ridiculous dossier that
27:13
Speaker 5: they relied on to get warrants to go spaw on
27:15
Speaker 5: a presidential campaign. No great point, and it's again, this
27:19
Speaker 5: all now has come all getting exposed goes clear back
27:24
Speaker 5: to twenty sixteen when they spider. That's when it all started,
27:27
Speaker 5: and we're starting to unravel at all. So that and
27:29
Speaker 5: the reason we want to unravel it all and hold
27:31
Speaker 5: people accountable is so that it doesn't happen again.
27:35
Speaker 6: Well, if I were if I were a government employer
27:37
Speaker 6: or anybody, and I found out that they were doing
27:38
Speaker 6: that to me without a warrant from a judge or
27:40
Speaker 6: from a grand jury, I would sue from a constitution
27:43
Speaker 6: of rights being violated because I tell you one thing.
27:46
Speaker 5: You get.
27:46
Speaker 6: First of all, you get a big chunk of change
27:47
Speaker 6: under the government. Secondly, you get a lot of discovery,
27:49
Speaker 6: You get a lot of information you know, and we
27:52
Speaker 6: find out what the government is doing and not doing.
27:54
Speaker 6: Chairman Jim Jordan, thank you sir.
27:56
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27:58
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28:01
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28:04
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