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Nick Cannon, Sara Finney Johnson, Dorien Wilson, Jazz & Jake Smollett · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: truly leaves an incredibly balanced life. Um. He has entertained
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Speaker 1: audiences in film, radio, music, television, on stage and online
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Speaker 1: for nearly twenty years. From drum Line to Wild and Out.
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Speaker 1: He is a true renaissance man, a social media influencer
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Speaker 1: who continues to dominate all facets of entertainment as a comedian, host, actor, writer, director,
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Speaker 1: about you, and children's book Arthur. Please welcome to Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations, Nick Cannon. Appreciate the intro to bring them
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Speaker 1: out as they said, you know what I'm saying. When
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Speaker 1: you gotta when you gotta resume, don't leave it on
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Speaker 1: the floor. And you got an incredible resume. Man. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you started doing stand up, Yes, sir, why why? Why?
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Speaker 1: Coming from the church. Honestly, I mean my father was
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Speaker 1: into the ministry. And actually it goes back even before that.
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Speaker 1: I mean the first time I was ever officially on
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Speaker 1: stage doing stand up, I was about eleven years old
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Speaker 1: and it was auditioned North Carolina for the Apollo and
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, it was like the Apollo
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Speaker 1: used to travel to find, you know, different acts, and
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Speaker 1: they were put on small talent shows in smaller regions
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Speaker 1: and in North Carolina, my dad I would always like,
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Speaker 1: get up and you know, tell Jesus jokes in the
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Speaker 1: church and stuff, and my dad was like, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: should audition. I put together a hole set when I
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Speaker 1: was eleven, and then from there just kept at it.
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Speaker 1: And by the time you know, I was fifteen years old,
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Speaker 1: I was a regular at the comedy store and improvs
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Speaker 1: in l A. So, you know, just try. I knew
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Speaker 1: I was doing I following in my father's footsteps where
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Speaker 1: I was sending too much to be a preacher. So
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead
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Speaker 1: and just still try to lead the flock. But he
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Speaker 1: believed in ye just talking about what's the upcoming, the
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Speaker 1: future and the present of Nick Cannon Wilding Out. Let
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Speaker 1: me just get a little history on that. I went
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Speaker 1: to the very first tape in the Wilder Out. The
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Speaker 1: idea was people pushed back on the idea. Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: took me there to reach out and look at it,
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Speaker 1: look at what I've done, and to see we're walking
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Branding as I walked in. Branding on
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Speaker 1: the wall, branding on the behind the bar, branding on
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Speaker 1: the pool table, branding on everywhere it was it was
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Speaker 1: Nick Cannon and that's your production that Cannon presents. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Wilding Out models coming out everybody. It
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Speaker 1: was very organized for a young man. Yeah, impressive, Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about that brand and tell us about the
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Speaker 1: future wild and Out. Really trying to diversify the brand
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Speaker 1: more than anything, Uh, tap into it and see how
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Speaker 1: many verticals I can get out of it. When I
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Speaker 1: first created it, I knew it was I wasn't calling
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Speaker 1: it a brand name, but I knew it was more
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Speaker 1: of the culture and I hadn't really seen it since
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Speaker 1: the Deaf Jam days to where someone actually could put
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Speaker 1: it out there in a way where people would want
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Speaker 1: to wear t shirts. People would want to go see
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Speaker 1: a live show people, and you could put it on
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Speaker 1: on any platform and would actually still succeed. And because
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Speaker 1: we started in a comedy club, you know, I rented out.
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Speaker 1: Uh what club was that? The Comedy Union. Yeah, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we we got that. I got some cameras together,
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Speaker 1: got some friends that you know, we weren't as known
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Speaker 1: back then, like Kevin Hard and Cat Williams and you know,
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Speaker 1: all of those guys, and everybody just came together. I
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Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is this is something really cool.
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Speaker 1: And from there, I knew it could be improv school.
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Speaker 1: I knew it could be a live stage show. I
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Speaker 1: knew it could be a television show. I knew it
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Speaker 1: could be a board game. And I saw all of
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Speaker 1: this back then, and now I'm actually getting those opportunities
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Speaker 1: to bring those things to pass. And you know, um
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Speaker 1: learning this this touring game. I mean, we're going out
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Speaker 1: our second time. This time we're going out with a
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Speaker 1: g to all the arenas. Yeah, We're going all across
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Speaker 1: the country on a thirty city tour, uh, starting at
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Speaker 1: the end of the summer. And you know it's funny.
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Speaker 1: One of the first comedy tours. The first time I
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Speaker 1: was ever officially even really on tour, it was you
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Speaker 1: took me out. We we did that. It was it
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Speaker 1: was a short run, but we had we had some
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Speaker 1: good sponsors and and we took some young people out
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Speaker 1: on out on the road. And I remember at the
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Speaker 1: time it was like myself a little j J. Actually,
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Speaker 1: now I just put back on wilding out now, asked me, now,
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Speaker 1: producer on the show, have you j J? Yeah? He
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Speaker 1: on the show like so, but to say, like you
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Speaker 1: showed me the ropes on a lot of this, especially
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the live shows and you know
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Speaker 1: all the things that you know, you produced and put
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Speaker 1: for UH for our community. Early on, I was just learning, man,
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Speaker 1: and so now to be able to sit here and say,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing the same thing and giving other
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Speaker 1: young people opportunities to show their skill sets and talent
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Speaker 1: as an outstanding, it's really interesting because you know, when
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Speaker 1: I came to the tape and I came like Roushan
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Speaker 1: was suited. Yeah, and it's so funny, and it's so funny.
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Speaker 1: I walked in and Uh I was with a dale
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Speaker 1: conversation and as we were as he was walking up
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Speaker 1: then they looked behind they see me, they go, come on,
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Speaker 1: come on, come on, like like I owned the building.
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Speaker 1: Different it's a different culture and it's just like that
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Speaker 1: coming when I did in two. So I really know
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Speaker 1: that it's special now. But you're taking this to the
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Speaker 1: restaurant world. Yes, that's exciting. I mean, it's it's challenging us.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely challenging, but it's a whole new world when
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Speaker 1: you get into the food and beverage game. Uh, there's
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Speaker 1: there's different rules. And we opened our first restaurant Memorial
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Speaker 1: Day weekend and uh Miami right on South Beach, and
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Speaker 1: it was it's continuing to be extremely successful. Our next
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Speaker 1: one is in San Diego, California, my hometown, and then
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do Los Angeles, Atlanta, Vegas, New York and
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Speaker 1: probably have a half a dozen open before the end
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Speaker 1: of the year. And it's it's a it's a whole
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Speaker 1: new game. I mean, but I'm watching David Busters, I've
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Speaker 1: seen Hooters. I've seen all of these different um restaurants
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Speaker 1: who tap into a market and they just they printing money, man,
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Speaker 1: And there's nothing been specifically catered to our community, you know,
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Speaker 1: or whether we want to call it the hip hop
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Speaker 1: culture of the African American community, to where you can
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Speaker 1: go in and watch a game, have a good time,
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Speaker 1: play video games, all this stuff that but you feel
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Speaker 1: at home. You feel and it's and it's to a
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Speaker 1: brand that you recognize that you can embrace, that welcomes everyone.
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Speaker 1: But it speaks our language. And I love the fact
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Speaker 1: that you you compared it to David Buster type because
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Speaker 1: that's really what it is. Great food, right, Uh, kind
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Speaker 1: of like a play land atmosphere and and but just
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Speaker 1: but everybody in there looks like you in the sense
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Speaker 1: of that culture a hundred nights. I'm glad you did.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you went to say the hip hop because
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Speaker 1: hip hop covers everybody, every white Eyrican Americans. It's a language,
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Speaker 1: it's a language. It's a language is so very powerful
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Speaker 1: that there's now it's taken over. You know, you're taking
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Speaker 1: advantage of that now. So I love that fact. So
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Speaker 1: so with that said, how does the tour work? How
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Speaker 1: does that wild? And is nick Kinna going to be
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Speaker 1: at every tour day? That will be at every tour date? Uh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would definitely be there. We did. We did about
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Speaker 1: twenty dates last year and we learned so much. Are
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Speaker 1: you taping those? We are taking up learning from your
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Speaker 1: learning from uh But you know what it's it's as
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Speaker 1: much as you get when you watch the twenty two
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Speaker 1: minutes show at home. But now we're gonna give you
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Speaker 1: an hour and a half of entertainment. So we bring
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Speaker 1: two of your favorite rappers you know that you love.
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Speaker 1: The last we had Rick Ross and your body Walk.
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Speaker 1: A flock a bunch of people came on toward it,
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Speaker 1: so we we're bringing the hottest guys with this. One
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Speaker 1: opens the show, on one closes the show, and then
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Speaker 1: between you get four stand up comics as well as
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Speaker 1: the games that you see on Wilding Out. So we
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Speaker 1: bring the crowd up and we play the family reunion games,
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Speaker 1: the rap battle, wilding Out wild style games, so we
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Speaker 1: do all of that so you feel like you're extremely fulfilled.
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Speaker 1: You see the Wilding Out girls, you get you're gonna
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Speaker 1: do local market searchers for the wild and Out girls
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Speaker 1: and see you on top of that every scene. And
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Speaker 1: it's funny like half of the young ladies that are
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Speaker 1: on the show now we found on the tour last year.
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Speaker 1: So keep our word. We come to the town. We
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Speaker 1: allow the crowd in the in the hometown to vote
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Speaker 1: for the girls that they feel that they want to
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Speaker 1: see on the show, and it makes everyone feel part
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Speaker 1: of it. We bring the community to the show and
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Speaker 1: the show to the community. I don't know if you've
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Speaker 1: ever been to a Universal Soul service. Yes, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's that energy, It's that music, is that feeling, is
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Speaker 1: that family, And it's so close. Yeah, it's so close.
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Speaker 1: And when I was watching, I go, wow, it's that field,
10:52
Speaker 1: which is really which means that you're you're combined so
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Speaker 1: many fantastic entertainment elements and you can bring masters to
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Speaker 1: bring p T. Bottom over here. And that's what that's
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Speaker 1: what that's so amazed. So so so when you come
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Speaker 1: to the cities, you do recruit or you do Marvel
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Speaker 1: searchers localizes it. We give the opportunity a lot of
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Speaker 1: times if there's uh strong comedians in the in the yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we tap in with the radio stations as well,
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Speaker 1: and just you know, give them the opportunity to to
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Speaker 1: showcase their talent. And and and while I out is
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Speaker 1: built for that, it's built for you know, somebody may
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Speaker 1: not have a five to ten minutes set that they
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Speaker 1: can rock in an arena. It's a crazy part. I'm
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Speaker 1: watching the taping right and and my old hand going,
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Speaker 1: I can get out there. Yeah exactly. I got by
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Speaker 1: you to keep your right down, everybody got a good joke,
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Speaker 1: or you can get in there and have fun. So
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Speaker 1: I think that's the energy we want to bring across
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Speaker 1: with the tour as well. So you mentioned radio, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I gotta get you back on radio. I'm ready, I'm ready.
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Speaker 1: It's funny. I I did mornings for again going. The
11:56
Speaker 1: first time I even stepped into it was you know,
11:58
Speaker 1: you guys gave me the opportunity when you when when
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Speaker 1: Steve would have a day office. Yeah, and I got
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Speaker 1: excited that. I was like, man, I can really do this.
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Speaker 1: And you know, a couple of years later, I had
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12:17
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Speaker 1: I loved about you, you know, it wasn't an urban platform. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And and to be able to do it, I think
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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna come back and actually go for people
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Speaker 1: with with some wilding out morning radio. We're gonna get
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Speaker 1: back to it. And that's important because please do that
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Speaker 1: fuch for your voices needed. If there's a there's a
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Speaker 1: and Out. Yea, please come back home man. Every time
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Speaker 1: it is. I'm not sure it's gonna stay there. But
17:59
Speaker 1: one is a woman who's a housewife who's decided she
18:02
Speaker 1: wants something more, and she's kind of gonna be forced
18:05
Speaker 1: to need something more. Another is an up and coming journalist,
18:10
Speaker 1: and the other is a girl who's kind of living
18:12
Speaker 1: on the edge. You know, she wants to be in
18:14
Speaker 1: the quote unquote bis and she'll do anything to get there.
18:17
Speaker 1: So now, when I met you, Sarah, he was all sitcom.
18:22
Speaker 1: So now I'll American Soul drama, the Quad drama. That's
18:27
Speaker 1: the project you're working on. Drama. Yeah, when did you
18:30
Speaker 1: make the decision to become the transition to drama or
18:34
Speaker 1: just the nature of the business, you know, Rashaan, I
18:37
Speaker 1: just believe that you've got to um transform to whatever
18:43
Speaker 1: is working for you or that you desire. And I
18:46
Speaker 1: felt like, I love to come. I love comedy, but
18:50
Speaker 1: dramas were really I'd always wanted to do a drama
18:53
Speaker 1: first of all, but I never had the opportunity because
18:56
Speaker 1: you know, I was so blessed to keep working in
18:58
Speaker 1: a half hour and sitcom, so dramas I mean, they
19:02
Speaker 1: were just popping up everywhere with all you know, the
19:04
Speaker 1: new streaming services and cable, and comedies were kind of
19:09
Speaker 1: falling by the wayside. There weren't a lot of comedy
19:13
Speaker 1: and so I thought, you know what, this might be
19:15
Speaker 1: my chance to dive into drama. So I wrote a
19:18
Speaker 1: couple of specscripts, got them to the right people. Thing God,
19:21
Speaker 1: Felicia Henderson was one of them, and she she loved it.
19:26
Speaker 1: She hired me on Single Ladies. I did said a
19:28
Speaker 1: few years ago with her and that got me started.
19:32
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm not saying I would never
19:34
Speaker 1: do comedy again, but I really do love drama. I'm
19:37
Speaker 1: really happy here now. One of the dramas I mentioned
19:40
Speaker 1: in your credit credits, uh with your co exact producer
19:43
Speaker 1: on BT's American Soul. That's premiers January on VT what
19:48
Speaker 1: exactly as American Soul. American Soul is about Soul Train
19:53
Speaker 1: and the life of Don Fornelius. Yes, it's gonna be great.
19:57
Speaker 1: It was a great opportunity there and his life, you know,
20:00
Speaker 1: the man was just fascinating. And I grew up, you know,
20:03
Speaker 1: I'm a bad area. I grew up on Soul Train.
20:05
Speaker 1: You know, every Saturday morning exactly. So it's just a
20:12
Speaker 1: lot of rich story there, and and it was Devon
20:15
Speaker 1: Gregory's the showrunner, and uh so it's it's gonna be great.
20:18
Speaker 1: I really hope people get to watch that. Yeah, that
20:20
Speaker 1: that's a show that I'm sure out of curiosity, you know,
20:24
Speaker 1: we're watching because it's truly is the side of our lives.
20:28
Speaker 1: You know, you said he's telling the truth. The soul
20:30
Speaker 1: train line. If you could break out the soul train
20:33
Speaker 1: line right now, and exactly, it lives on and it
20:36
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what color, what ratio are everybody. I mean,
20:39
Speaker 1: you can go to a wedding right now and there's
20:42
Speaker 1: a soul Train line. So it's it's lived on, you know,
20:45
Speaker 1: and it's it's great. At one point, you know, all
20:48
Speaker 1: the jobs are going to reality show. You know, black
20:50
Speaker 1: people out there fighting, throwing glasses, climbing over tables, punching
20:54
Speaker 1: each other. And that was really frustrating for me. I'm
20:56
Speaker 1: sure it was equally frustrating for you because you're going,
20:59
Speaker 1: that's the real writer's job opportunity there right right. For
21:03
Speaker 1: a while, though, I have to tell you, I didn't
21:04
Speaker 1: think reality was gonna make it. And then one day,
21:07
Speaker 1: I said, a reality TV is here to stay. But
21:10
Speaker 1: it was disappointing to see some of it. You know,
21:13
Speaker 1: but I know people have to make a living, and
21:15
Speaker 1: you know it's legal. They're not doing anything illegal. But
21:18
Speaker 1: I just wanted to do a different type of television.
21:22
Speaker 1: So that with that being said, is that when you
21:25
Speaker 1: look at television today, you know, you see it all
21:28
Speaker 1: African Americans get these developments, I mean, real deals. So
21:32
Speaker 1: why why you think the content is so strong? Because
21:35
Speaker 1: we thought that was gonna happen a few years ago
21:37
Speaker 1: when when they stepped up and said we need to
21:39
Speaker 1: give a better image for African Americans on television. We
21:43
Speaker 1: see that very dominantly in commercials because you see interracial
21:46
Speaker 1: relationships and commercials like it's a normal slice of life,
21:50
Speaker 1: which is fantastic. Television was slow to turn, but now
21:55
Speaker 1: it seems like there's a foot race to get ahead. Yeah,
21:58
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm so glad about it. Um it's
22:01
Speaker 1: still I think got a ways to go as far
22:04
Speaker 1: as people of color concerned. But my god, it has
22:07
Speaker 1: changed so much since I started. I mean I think
22:11
Speaker 1: they were looking, finally looking and realizing fresh voices. You know,
22:16
Speaker 1: people with some new point of views, and they happen
22:19
Speaker 1: to be people of color. I mean, I look at
22:21
Speaker 1: Lena Waves and and Marbrock could kill Felicia Henderson, you know,
22:25
Speaker 1: Gina prince Blythewood, all my sisters who are just out
22:28
Speaker 1: here doing it, doing it big, and I'm so proud
22:31
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, there was a time when I
22:33
Speaker 1: first started, they were like five black writers. I do
22:36
Speaker 1: all of them. Now I don't know half of them,
22:39
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about that. I'm happy about that. It
22:42
Speaker 1: makes my heart full what I know, where we've come
22:45
Speaker 1: from to where we are now. And I think that
22:48
Speaker 1: also because of the fact that it used to be
22:50
Speaker 1: you know, we was on the w B, was on up.
22:53
Speaker 1: You've used the black shows or sitcom to Launcher Network,
22:57
Speaker 1: and if they got rid of us. I remember when
23:00
Speaker 1: The Parkers was canceled, Uh getta boone show One on
23:03
Speaker 1: one was canceled, Girlfriends was canceled. They just wiped us
23:06
Speaker 1: all out. But now you know, you've got the cable
23:13
Speaker 1: and the streaming services, and it's just so many more outlets.
23:17
Speaker 1: And I tell a lot of young writers and any
23:19
Speaker 1: writer you can shoot your own movie on your phone. Now,
23:22
Speaker 1: I mean that's just unheard of when I was starting out.
23:25
Speaker 1: So it's just come a long way. And it's still
23:28
Speaker 1: like I said, I still think there are, of course,
23:29
Speaker 1: many things that need to happen, but I'm seeing some
23:32
Speaker 1: progress and that's been wonderful. Well, it's crazy when you
23:35
Speaker 1: look at how good it is becoming you know, Insecure,
23:38
Speaker 1: you know, Oh I love Insecure, Yes, yes, power you know.
23:43
Speaker 1: And you know she started, uh misadventurous of an awkward
23:46
Speaker 1: Black girl was on the internet and I would watch
23:49
Speaker 1: it and I was like, Wow, this girl she needs
23:51
Speaker 1: a TV show. She is so funny, so talented, and
23:56
Speaker 1: I think Shonda Rhimes heard about her and got her
23:58
Speaker 1: deal or worked with her a while. But then her
24:00
Speaker 1: and Larry Wilmore got Insecure, and now Princess Penny is
24:04
Speaker 1: over there's the showrunner, and it is just that's just remarkable.
24:07
Speaker 1: That's the cool thing that you went from one African
24:09
Speaker 1: American Strong to the next African American Strong to the
24:11
Speaker 1: next offer John Ridley, it's just really you're you're absolutely
24:14
Speaker 1: telling the truth. It used to be like you know,
24:17
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Ken you over there just embarrass
24:21
Speaker 1: you just got to steal a Netflix. You know, he'll
24:23
Speaker 1: be doing big things. There's all these people came out
24:26
Speaker 1: of that. That's Sarah Fitty World Kenya, you know Meyra
24:32
Speaker 1: Brocker Kill, Felicia mcdonn. See. See, I gotta give her credit,
24:37
Speaker 1: her nurturing her, her shaping a lot of people, about
24:40
Speaker 1: telling them about story, telling them that the root of success,
24:43
Speaker 1: long term success is knowing how to write. So you
24:46
Speaker 1: just take some credit for for for giving us our
24:49
Speaker 1: opportunities and giving us our strong guidance to be where
24:52
Speaker 1: we are at today. Listen, I feel like God put
24:54
Speaker 1: me in the right place at the right time to
24:56
Speaker 1: do what a little bit I could. I give all
24:59
Speaker 1: things to God. Sean, I have to tell you, without
25:02
Speaker 1: my faith and my strength, I would not be here
25:05
Speaker 1: where I am today. So I thank God. I think
25:09
Speaker 1: thank God for people like you. You know, you came
25:11
Speaker 1: into my life. You know I worked for you at
25:13
Speaker 1: one point, and I'm grateful for that. See, I'm not
25:16
Speaker 1: one of these people of those things. Oh, I can
25:18
Speaker 1: only do this, do that. No, I love to work.
25:20
Speaker 1: I love you, right, That's what Sarah loves to do.
25:23
Speaker 1: And it's just I've had people tell me in the
25:26
Speaker 1: last year it's like you still right, Yes, I'm still writing,
25:29
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's great because it used to
25:31
Speaker 1: be a cut off point. You know, you have to
25:33
Speaker 1: stop writing what I'm saying. So yeah, and I I
25:35
Speaker 1: just love the fact that when you and I want
25:38
Speaker 1: to bring this back up, when you're talking about you
25:40
Speaker 1: can shoot your shoulder. Telephone used to telephone used to
25:43
Speaker 1: be if you were not shot your pilot or sitcom,
25:46
Speaker 1: you wishing your money because the industry was locked down, right,
25:50
Speaker 1: you wish you You don't come to us, You will
25:52
Speaker 1: not get on television because you can do that in
25:54
Speaker 1: the film ustry. You can independent production and get your
25:57
Speaker 1: your movie in the theaters. You used to be just
25:59
Speaker 1: saying television and work like that. Because of the streaming
26:03
Speaker 1: services and demand for content, you can actually do your
26:05
Speaker 1: own project and then go show up and they put
26:08
Speaker 1: it on television. And plus production costs, I've dropped tremendously.
26:11
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. It's it's a whole new world. And I
26:14
Speaker 1: want to say something we talked a little earlier about
26:17
Speaker 1: my transition into writing drama. I believe as a writer,
26:21
Speaker 1: don't get pigeonhole. You should write whatever you want. I'm
26:24
Speaker 1: still gonna do a movie one day I might go
26:26
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26:29
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I say, keep writing, keep that tool fresh,
26:34
Speaker 1: and and work on your craft. I just say, right, well,
26:38
Speaker 1: the one thing you told me is that the Rashaan
26:40
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26:43
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26:47
Speaker 1: natural sisters that are two extras. Policia D. Henderson is
26:50
Speaker 1: one of them, and Sarah Pitty Johnson is one of them.
26:54
Speaker 1: When they I feel their pain, I feel their successes.
26:56
Speaker 1: And to see you back out there writing and going
26:59
Speaker 1: from another job to the next job, I'm so proud
27:01
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27:04
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27:06
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27:09
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27:16
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Speaker 1: slash Rashawan McDonald on the show today, You've heard from
29:39
Speaker 1: a man, Nick Cannon, who's selling out venues. I shouldn't
29:42
Speaker 1: say venue, it's just arenas around the country with his
29:45
Speaker 1: Wild and Our tour. He also has a Wild and
29:47
Speaker 1: Our restaurant chain that's popping up. He just premiered one
29:50
Speaker 1: in Miami and he's going to San Diego, Los Angeles,
29:53
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I'll be eating in one of them. You
29:55
Speaker 1: just also heard from a girl, the legendary sitcom now
29:59
Speaker 1: drama writer Sarah Finny Johnson, who created Mosha and The Parkers.
30:03
Speaker 1: Now she's writing on and wrote recently on The Quad
30:06
Speaker 1: and American Soul, which will be coming out on b
30:08
Speaker 1: ET in January. My next guest are the following. One
30:13
Speaker 1: is the food and lifestyle expert writer, party architect and
30:17
Speaker 1: can be seen sharing recipe tips on the reel, and
30:20
Speaker 1: the other is a chef TV personality has a deal
30:23
Speaker 1: with the Food Network and can be seen regularly cooking
30:26
Speaker 1: on the Rachel Ratio and Home and Family. I've been
30:29
Speaker 1: on Home and Family. I had been on Rachel Ray,
30:30
Speaker 1: So I'm getting up there where he yet Now I'm
30:32
Speaker 1: getting up there. I'm getting up there. But you both
30:35
Speaker 1: could be seen on Food Networks Smallest Eats. They're on
30:38
Speaker 1: the show discussed their new cookbook something I cooked some things,
30:41
Speaker 1: so they hear that I cooked some things to this.
30:43
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about Rashan McDonald sharing his cooking
30:47
Speaker 1: styles with this cookbook. Name of the cookbook is The
30:49
Speaker 1: Family Table. Recipes and Moments from a Nomadic Nomadic Life.
30:54
Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Banking Conversations. Jazz Smaller, Worrell and
30:58
Speaker 1: Jake Smaller. Hey, Roshan, are you doing pretty good? Man?
31:04
Speaker 1: What are you guys in? Now? What are you guys at? Now?
31:06
Speaker 1: Get that eng we're talking Roushan mcdea. We three when
31:17
Speaker 1: we when I was actually in Atlanta when they call,
31:21
Speaker 1: when the publisher called us about doing this show, and
31:24
Speaker 1: when I agreed to this, I was thinking at eleven
31:26
Speaker 1: o'clock because I was in Atlanta and i've been I
31:32
Speaker 1: realized last night, Oh no, it's eight a just man,
31:35
Speaker 1: that's absolutely good. We're good. I'm gonna telling you something.
31:39
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got both of you guys on the call.
31:42
Speaker 1: I was in I live in Atlanta and I live
31:44
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. And the reason. The way I found
31:46
Speaker 1: out about your book, I was reading the Houston Chronicle
31:49
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas, and uh, and I was reading it.
31:52
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is such a cool book.
31:54
Speaker 1: And then I called I have a great relationship with HarperCollins,
31:58
Speaker 1: and I called him. I said, can I and I
32:00
Speaker 1: get this book because I want to see this book
32:02
Speaker 1: because I I know how to bake. People tell me
32:05
Speaker 1: I'm an award winning baker. I'll take that title, but
32:07
Speaker 1: I bake a lot and so, but cooking is not
32:10
Speaker 1: something I do on a normal basis. And so when
32:13
Speaker 1: I got the book, I will tell you it's like,
32:15
Speaker 1: it's so many pages. I bent I like that. I
32:19
Speaker 1: like this. I like this. I like you know what
32:22
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I've been to page you know. I saying, hey,
32:23
Speaker 1: I got this because I want I want to because
32:26
Speaker 1: we have two breaks. I play no music, so I
32:28
Speaker 1: want you. I want to really talk about the process
32:30
Speaker 1: because you know, when you when you see a recipe,
32:33
Speaker 1: you go, that's it, that's it, that's it. So, so
32:37
Speaker 1: you have over a hundred and thirty recipes. How did
32:40
Speaker 1: all this come together? How did this whole book process?
32:43
Speaker 1: You know, it's choosing this is the right recipe here.
32:46
Speaker 1: Before I get into my cooking experience, I want to
32:48
Speaker 1: find out about this journey of putting this book together.
32:51
Speaker 1: At the family table, we really went through Oh sorry,
32:57
Speaker 1: go ahead, now you can take it dress M. So
33:02
Speaker 1: we really went through hundreds of recipes that we wrote down,
33:07
Speaker 1: just kind of freewriting. That's got to seeing like, Okay,
33:10
Speaker 1: one are all the recipes we ate growing up. One
33:12
Speaker 1: are all the things that we looked up throughout the
33:15
Speaker 1: years in our adulthood, in our own travels and things
33:18
Speaker 1: like that that we would always bring back to the
33:20
Speaker 1: family table. And so we then had to edit down, Okay,
33:24
Speaker 1: what's worth being in the book. We can't have everything
33:27
Speaker 1: in there. Um, it's supposed to be hundred twenty five
33:30
Speaker 1: recipes that we were obligated to put it in. You
33:33
Speaker 1: know that the publisher expected us to do recipes and
33:39
Speaker 1: we did one thirty so we did five bonus recipes
33:41
Speaker 1: for yall. So so really, uh, it was just about
33:48
Speaker 1: narrowing those down. Um. And the way we did it
33:52
Speaker 1: um was, you know, after we did the cooking show,
33:56
Speaker 1: we were like, well, let's do a book. I I
34:00
Speaker 1: love books in general, books it's a beaut Oh, thank you.
34:07
Speaker 1: And I've always wanted to you know, uh write and things,
34:12
Speaker 1: you know, write books and things like that. And so
34:14
Speaker 1: what we did is we just when we started talking
34:18
Speaker 1: about it, we were excited about putting down our family
34:21
Speaker 1: legacy through food, um, for next generations and also just
34:25
Speaker 1: to share with people now are passions for food on
34:30
Speaker 1: a different level. UM. And so when we decided to
34:34
Speaker 1: do it, and then we now down the recipes when
34:37
Speaker 1: we're really I was like in charge of um project,
34:41
Speaker 1: managing you know, the book, getting it together and all
34:46
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. But and that's just because I
34:49
Speaker 1: have a background and being bossy, and that's why he's
34:55
Speaker 1: quiet now. That's why he's quiet now, Jacks, Well, really
35:01
Speaker 1: I'm a producer. That's kind of my day job. I
35:04
Speaker 1: can use behind the scenes content on films and um
35:07
Speaker 1: that's why I was in Atlanta by the way. But anyway,
35:11
Speaker 1: so with that, we then decided that recipe wise, as
35:16
Speaker 1: far as like I was gonna give the torch to Jake,
35:20
Speaker 1: as far as he would decide what's going to make it,
35:23
Speaker 1: what's not going to make it, and had to be
35:25
Speaker 1: in charge of that part of it. And then I
35:27
Speaker 1: would be in charge of getting everything together and also
35:32
Speaker 1: um uh a lot of the writing, like I wanted
35:35
Speaker 1: to write so so so Jake, so you you you
35:39
Speaker 1: were the man behind the grill lobster roles. Yeah, okay,
35:45
Speaker 1: so this would happened to me, just what happened to me,
35:46
Speaker 1: because I'm just let everybody know how it real I am.
35:49
Speaker 1: I used to just let people come on my show
35:52
Speaker 1: and they have a book by cooking, I just bring
35:55
Speaker 1: them on. We talk. So now what I do is
35:58
Speaker 1: like I said, I found you guys book reading the
36:00
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle called Harpercollin sit the book and then I
36:04
Speaker 1: went through it. I went, this is awesome. So I
36:07
Speaker 1: make things that I make. If I can make it,
36:09
Speaker 1: I go, I'm bring them on the show so we
36:11
Speaker 1: can talk about it. And so so this morning I
36:14
Speaker 1: just blue and I posted it on my social media.
36:16
Speaker 1: I made the grill lobster rolls. Yesterday morning, I made
36:21
Speaker 1: the grill And let's tell you someomel this is. This
36:23
Speaker 1: was see you go to a major restaurant and you
36:27
Speaker 1: you you ordered this because by five because lobs is
36:30
Speaker 1: not cheap depending on where you at. And so I
36:32
Speaker 1: had never in my life considered that was an option
36:35
Speaker 1: for me to make in my house. Grilled lobster roll. Okay,
36:39
Speaker 1: so so check this out. This the just the recipe here,
36:42
Speaker 1: four table spoons of salted butter because I baked, so
36:44
Speaker 1: I used unsalted butter. So I had to go give
36:46
Speaker 1: me some salted butter. Six garlic clothes and then they
36:49
Speaker 1: had the red peppers already had that. Because I'm a
36:52
Speaker 1: pizza guy, I had to crush red peppers. And then
36:54
Speaker 1: a pitch of sea salt that has become my favorite
36:57
Speaker 1: sea salt. I wasn't a come back. I've come from
36:59
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, so I regular more than salt was my thing.
37:01
Speaker 1: But see salts of things to do now, Lemon had
37:04
Speaker 1: that already in there, come out make all the time.
37:06
Speaker 1: And then four lobster tails, about five, about five of them,
37:11
Speaker 1: and they were like they're like by almost a little
37:13
Speaker 1: bit less by forty almost a little bit less than
37:15
Speaker 1: a half pounds. So I was I was grinding, and
37:18
Speaker 1: then I got back say I knew it I was fat.
37:20
Speaker 1: So instead of giving me hot dog bones, I got
37:22
Speaker 1: me some hoogy rolls because I was gonna feel this
37:25
Speaker 1: bad boy with some meat. And then uh chopped me
37:28
Speaker 1: up some parsley. So I wasn't gonna grill, okay, So
37:31
Speaker 1: I went and got my George form and grill out
37:33
Speaker 1: of the clods and that big white one. You know
37:34
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that big white Come on, man, I
37:40
Speaker 1: dipped that bad boy, cut that bad boy open there,
37:43
Speaker 1: took that shell off that lobster tail. Then then you
37:47
Speaker 1: mix all that stuff up. You mixed it the garlic,
37:49
Speaker 1: the butter, and to see something. You mix all that
37:52
Speaker 1: up and it all right. And know, all of a sudden,
37:54
Speaker 1: you take that lemon, you squeeze that lemon on top
37:56
Speaker 1: of the lobster, and you slapped both of them bad
37:58
Speaker 1: boys on off of that. Come on, I'm telling you, man,
38:03
Speaker 1: you keep the little opening. I keep that little open
38:05
Speaker 1: because you don't want to burn it too quick, because
38:07
Speaker 1: you want that bad boy to turn a little white.
38:09
Speaker 1: And I flipped it, put more limit on it, and
38:11
Speaker 1: then I took that bad boy. Dip that bad boy
38:13
Speaker 1: and that little garlic butter sauce put it right back
38:17
Speaker 1: on that grill. I'm telling your game. I'm telling you
38:22
Speaker 1: the smell that's you know what they're talking about when
38:24
Speaker 1: it comes to grill, the rolls, the truth, the truth,
38:30
Speaker 1: because your boy got down. Did I put a little
38:32
Speaker 1: that butter sauce on the inside of that, and I
38:35
Speaker 1: threw a little extrap A little man is in it?
38:37
Speaker 1: Too little contre. I'm catre tell. I killed it, y'all.
38:43
Speaker 1: I killed it when I started talking about you, when
38:45
Speaker 1: you really made that, because you didn't. Because man, I'm
38:47
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you what. This
38:49
Speaker 1: is my birth for my staff today. Going down the
38:52
Speaker 1: list of that over, just's what I made for my
38:57
Speaker 1: staff today. I made the crawfish dip. Okay, I made
39:01
Speaker 1: that crawfish jip. Huh. Yeah. I made it for my staff,
39:06
Speaker 1: but it made some other things for him. But let's
39:09
Speaker 1: talk about this, this this dip that I made because
39:12
Speaker 1: the thing that reason I'm talking to people like this
39:14
Speaker 1: is that when you get a cookbook and it's so simple,
39:18
Speaker 1: when I tell you it's simple, And I made these
39:21
Speaker 1: dishes yesterday, okay, and for for dinner this afternoon, I'm
39:25
Speaker 1: going to make my staff the grill sauce Peter pocket. Uh. See.
39:32
Speaker 1: See that's a that's a simple recipes because they are
39:35
Speaker 1: the actual recipes we go up eating in a real thing.
39:39
Speaker 1: So it's not there's no frills placed on any of
39:43
Speaker 1: the recipes. It's all direct for real people, real food,
39:47
Speaker 1: real families. Um. And that was really the fun part
39:52
Speaker 1: about you know, doing the book is it was a
39:54
Speaker 1: two year process. And Jazz and I can both attest
39:57
Speaker 1: to the fact that no one told us how much
40:00
Speaker 1: work goes into throwing a cookbook. You have to cook
40:03
Speaker 1: minimally four times we cook ease recipe just to get
40:07
Speaker 1: the recipe tight and concise and everything. Um. So it
40:12
Speaker 1: was everyone's used to cooking to take but you know
40:16
Speaker 1: our families, uh, you know, Mom, Grandma, whoever, everybody is
40:21
Speaker 1: always like, oh put you know, you could slid in
40:23
Speaker 1: and you don't really put my recipe. You just put
40:27
Speaker 1: yourself and you kind of you kind of know how
40:29
Speaker 1: much you're supposed to put. And then you have the
40:31
Speaker 1: tea things and all your stuff, you know, but you're
40:33
Speaker 1: not measuring it out. So for us, the topses of
40:37
Speaker 1: like measuring it out and laying down what you can't
40:42
Speaker 1: put in the cookbook season to taste or right you know.
40:46
Speaker 1: Um now I'm telling sweet depart because that's me. See,
40:52
Speaker 1: I get my dessert before I ordered my meal. When
40:54
Speaker 1: I go and restaurant, and so the cooking up macaroons,
41:00
Speaker 1: you had me there, you hand me their jazz, the
41:02
Speaker 1: coponut macca that was out the influence of our dad
41:09
Speaker 1: is uh uh from New York. He's Polish Jewish, so
41:14
Speaker 1: um mac those macaroons are really popular and they like
41:18
Speaker 1: a man of chevits. So it's a brand as usually
41:21
Speaker 1: selling them around. Whenever you see them in the supermarkets,
41:25
Speaker 1: it's usually around like path Over or um Hanaker or
41:29
Speaker 1: the Jewish holidays and things like that. Um so that
41:33
Speaker 1: was a take on those but um uh, they're really good.
41:38
Speaker 1: And then the ice team like the homemade ice cream.
41:41
Speaker 1: You know Mom used to make that. Nay, they know
41:46
Speaker 1: they got a real foodie on the phone. Not then
41:49
Speaker 1: woke up on the West Coast. I'm gonna let y'all know, man,
41:52
Speaker 1: I'm a fan Jack and I just wanted y'all on
41:55
Speaker 1: the phone to let y'all know that you know, here's
41:58
Speaker 1: a guy Rashaan mcdonn never had them in your life.
42:01
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I read your book. First of all,
42:04
Speaker 1: the newspaper article made me, gave me interests. And then
42:08
Speaker 1: and I just want to put the word out because
42:10
Speaker 1: a lot of people do these books, you know, lifestyle
42:13
Speaker 1: you your family has been famous for a long time.
42:16
Speaker 1: But what my takeaway from this book was that you
42:19
Speaker 1: guys are just everyday people, and I really appreciated that. Yeah,
42:26
Speaker 1: family is number one and food is second. You hit
42:34
Speaker 1: me talking. I come from a family too. I come
42:36
Speaker 1: from six sisters and I have two brothers. So we
42:39
Speaker 1: we thought it so we know about that that family
42:41
Speaker 1: table thing now. But they came cook six sisters and
42:45
Speaker 1: three brothers. Two six sisters and two brothers, so it's
42:48
Speaker 1: nine kids and two parents. So so I know about
42:51
Speaker 1: that big table experience though. But we couldn't cook like y'all.
42:55
Speaker 1: So when mom went in there cooking and she said
42:58
Speaker 1: food up, we ran. Now, I wouldn't everybody know about
43:06
Speaker 1: this book? Like I said, I didn't want to like
43:09
Speaker 1: just act like there was a limited menu here. But
43:11
Speaker 1: they have a tremendous amount that's all broken up in chapters.
43:14
Speaker 1: We talked about the Sunday Susters. They haven't even have
43:16
Speaker 1: pasta night chapter, which I think is great because I'm
43:19
Speaker 1: into that now too. I got my cabinet, so I'll
43:21
Speaker 1: be diving into that. You saw me rave about the
43:24
Speaker 1: Great Outdoors chapter that's the you know that where I made.
43:28
Speaker 1: I'm for dinner. I'm having the grill sausage Peter Pocket,
43:30
Speaker 1: and I made the grie up lost the world. I'm
43:32
Speaker 1: telling you people very easy to make. You know their
43:35
Speaker 1: moms from New Orleans. New Orleans Roots as a chapter.
43:38
Speaker 1: They have salads if you like salad, specialty salads. You know,
43:42
Speaker 1: best side dishes. You know college greens. You know that's
43:45
Speaker 1: the best side dish for anybody. Those college greens are good. See.
43:52
Speaker 1: I'd like to see see all you all you have
43:54
Speaker 1: to do and give with people and let them know
43:55
Speaker 1: that you love them. That wake up, that climb up
43:57
Speaker 1: out of bed, get that sleep out there, and let
44:01
Speaker 1: everybody know this is a winner. I like this chapter
44:03
Speaker 1: about party fits and snacks. It really, it's really when
44:07
Speaker 1: I look at this book and I look at the pictures,
44:09
Speaker 1: I look at the life and everything, and I just
44:12
Speaker 1: want to I want to congratulate you guys. I really
44:14
Speaker 1: want to congratulate you guys, because I'm a fan. If
44:19
Speaker 1: you know, give my number, if you ever come out
44:22
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, come by my house and and then we'll cook.
44:25
Speaker 1: You know, we're cooking, eating talking chad. But no you
44:28
Speaker 1: have a home in Atlanta because I come from a
44:31
Speaker 1: big family. You guys are a big family just like mine,
44:35
Speaker 1: and I just want to share my love for you guys,
44:37
Speaker 1: and just keep keep doing what you're doing. Keep winning
44:39
Speaker 1: at the dinner table. Okay, thank you. We will definitely
44:45
Speaker 1: do a cookout next time when in a land that
44:48
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44:51
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47:37
Speaker 1: Martin's Sister Sister, being the first African American appear on
47:40
Speaker 1: the sitcom Friends and Believe Me, Big Deal, Living Single,
47:45
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Like, well, you know, I I didn't
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Speaker 1: include the movies, so I want everybody to I don't
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Speaker 1: want everybody just to think you just a TV star.
48:20
Speaker 1: You know, I was listening to you. I was like,
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Speaker 1: who they talking about you? That you're behind? That's what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. And it's really incredible, man, when
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Speaker 1: I when I think about as many times over the years,
48:33
Speaker 1: I've actually just settling, you know, still on the side
48:35
Speaker 1: of the stage and just watch you perform at various shows.
48:39
Speaker 1: And you know, like on Steve Harper Show, you was
48:41
Speaker 1: almost a regular on that show because you was casting
48:43
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Remember you, You're right, And it
48:48
Speaker 1: was really funny because you know. I remember the classic
48:51
Speaker 1: dance was the Dance Off, the Big Dance Off. Do
48:54
Speaker 1: you remember that the Big Dance Off with you eod
48:58
Speaker 1: true man? It really that was the that was the
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Speaker 1: real That was the episode where you know when these
49:04
Speaker 1: characters and Steve character really almost had a romantic moment
49:08
Speaker 1: because of the fact that his character came in and
49:11
Speaker 1: and and check ste emotionally. That's what I like from
49:14
Speaker 1: remember that this man has a career. So and all
49:17
Speaker 1: that stuff I mentioned I mentioned, I mentioned you'd been
49:20
Speaker 1: on Sister Sister and all these shows, Moisha and all
49:23
Speaker 1: these shows. What what what? What? You know? I know
49:26
Speaker 1: what I liked about you. But the worst thing about
49:28
Speaker 1: knowing somebody You start talking and people don't get to
49:30
Speaker 1: experience the true value who you are? What did? What
49:34
Speaker 1: did most people? You know? You ever saying when you're casting,
49:36
Speaker 1: because you was a you're a chamellion. You know you
49:38
Speaker 1: could do it. You could be dropped, tramatic. You're a
49:40
Speaker 1: very physical actor, very animated in the phase. You could
49:44
Speaker 1: be up, you could be down. I'm talking about with volume.
49:47
Speaker 1: And you know, because you can play against a big character.
49:49
Speaker 1: Because when he did the Parkers playing against Monique Monique
49:52
Speaker 1: was a big character, you know, where he had to
49:54
Speaker 1: go against the grain, like he was a person that
49:57
Speaker 1: was a really hard character to play because of the
49:59
Speaker 1: fact that he had to act like he was disgusted
50:02
Speaker 1: with his character. I would never date a character like you,
50:05
Speaker 1: and that's a hard that's a hard thing to do,
50:08
Speaker 1: especially when you write that character and also you working
50:12
Speaker 1: day to day with that character, so it doesn't cross
50:14
Speaker 1: that line. That was really interesting time for you. Correct, Oh,
50:18
Speaker 1: thank god. I had the best time. It was uh
50:22
Speaker 1: six years of playing with my best friend and I
50:26
Speaker 1: got a paycheck for it. You know, you can't better
50:29
Speaker 1: than that. You know, we had a great time. We
50:32
Speaker 1: did a hundred and ten episodes or something like that. Um,
50:36
Speaker 1: you know, it was great and nobody knew, you know,
50:38
Speaker 1: the magnitude of how big that show was gonna be. Well,
50:42
Speaker 1: you know, I like that when I came out and
50:44
Speaker 1: came over to that show from the Jamie Foxx Show.
50:46
Speaker 1: And I like the reason I came over to the
50:48
Speaker 1: show because it was it was one of the first
50:50
Speaker 1: shows on televison, especially African American shows, because at that time,
50:54
Speaker 1: if you were on TV and you was overweight, you know,
50:57
Speaker 1: he was either made or use something you always took
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Speaker 1: care of, right as you always took care of somebody
51:04
Speaker 1: when you will overweight on television. And it was the
51:07
Speaker 1: first show you don't tell the truth? You know, This
51:10
Speaker 1: was the first show where overweight black women say, I
51:14
Speaker 1: look good, I'm gonna dress up, I construct my stuff
51:18
Speaker 1: and I can get the man of my dream. You right,
51:25
Speaker 1: But that was the first time. That was the first
51:27
Speaker 1: time right here, absolutely absolutely absolutely we don't nick mcgirl,
51:33
Speaker 1: you know if she gonna do me. But I was
51:34
Speaker 1: just telling the truth. But that was the that was
51:35
Speaker 1: the best why I came over, you know, That's where
51:38
Speaker 1: I came over to the series because I've never seen
51:41
Speaker 1: that on television. And you know, it's brilliantly done by
51:44
Speaker 1: Sarah Fanny and uh who the co creator along with
51:48
Speaker 1: or Vita Spears. They co created the show and developed
51:51
Speaker 1: the show, also created Mosha. It's just a legacy of
51:54
Speaker 1: talent that just keeps sliding, slide sliding. But when they
51:57
Speaker 1: invited me to come over the show, that's why I
51:59
Speaker 1: was a tracked you to the show because I just
52:01
Speaker 1: left Jamie Fox Show and it was about an African
52:04
Speaker 1: American mayle who found himself and it wasn't silly. And
52:07
Speaker 1: I saw this character over here, I went, Wow, overweight
52:10
Speaker 1: women on television African American. They're feeling good about themselves,
52:14
Speaker 1: They're looking good about themselves. They're sexy. I want to
52:17
Speaker 1: do that show, Maam. I was on the show for
52:19
Speaker 1: two years. Happy getting the check like you said, get
52:22
Speaker 1: the check? Ye, none of that. So you know you
52:26
Speaker 1: like we talked earlier about you know, you're you're trained actor.
52:30
Speaker 1: Do you do you teaching the classes? Do you do
52:33
Speaker 1: any master classes? Uh? You know I just did actually
52:38
Speaker 1: uh in New York two weeks ago. Um and it
52:42
Speaker 1: was a group of college students. Um. But yeah, and
52:47
Speaker 1: and by teaching, man, I don't try to drill. And
52:52
Speaker 1: it's not a method that I formulate. But I can
52:58
Speaker 1: only talk about my experience and what works for me.
53:02
Speaker 1: How I go about breaking down a script, um, you know,
53:06
Speaker 1: my character development, Um, how you go into an audition
53:11
Speaker 1: and you've got to be prepared and stuff like that
53:15
Speaker 1: from my experience. So you know, nothing is from a
53:19
Speaker 1: book with the if. It's everything that I've learned along
53:23
Speaker 1: the way. Now that so do mer favor next time
53:28
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53:31
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Speaker 1: I know, Toosha Smith does a lot of them. You know,
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Speaker 1: Wendy Robson does them, and I always tell them, hey,
53:48
Speaker 1: let me know so I could promote it for because
53:50
Speaker 1: you guys are special talents. But not only that, young
53:53
Speaker 1: young actors and at even veteran actors need to hear
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Speaker 1: your story so they know that there's a journey. Like
53:59
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54:01
Speaker 1: this year walking up against and you see fifty people
54:04
Speaker 1: in there. They don't even look like you, and some
54:05
Speaker 1: of them do look like you. How do you deal
54:07
Speaker 1: with that emotion? How do you win? And you've been
54:10
Speaker 1: winning for such a long time. Man, uh, I just
54:12
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on the show. The Telly and
54:15
Speaker 1: the beauty of you know, helping somebody out else out
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Speaker 1: that's just starting out. It's all in your experience and
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Speaker 1: simple things that we take for granted in the business
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Speaker 1: that you know, a lot of newcomers don't know, so
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Speaker 1: you know I love to pass that information on. Well,
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Speaker 1: you've been doing it door and again. UH starring in
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Speaker 1: Uh in the Cut is on bots TV nine eight Central. Um.
54:42
Speaker 1: He's he's the owner a barbershop and the Beats. Love.
54:45
Speaker 1: That sounds very familiar to me in my life, a
54:47
Speaker 1: black man who owns a barbershop and the beaters. Lot
54:50
Speaker 1: Dory and thank you for taking the time to caring man.
54:52
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I know you're busy, and I know
54:55
Speaker 1: that it's a friendship man, and I wanted to look.
54:58
Speaker 1: Whenever you have something happening, please let me know so
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Speaker 1: I can have promote and you keep winning. All right,
55:02
Speaker 1: I'll be back. Thank you. When I was an FBI agent,
55:10
Speaker 1: I was aware of home title fraud. There was little
55:12
Speaker 1: we could do to stop it. Now there's home title lock.
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Speaker 1: This online bank was for closing on us. They even
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