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GRAMMY Award-winning artist/producer Mali Music on refusing to be put in a box · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: year and a half ago. Molly Music. He's a gospel
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Speaker 1: artist first and foremost, but who will not be put
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Speaker 1: in a box. He loves the freedom of creating amazing
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Speaker 1: music no matter what the genre is, Gospel, R and B,
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Speaker 1: hip hop or rock, whatever he feels, that's his move.
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Speaker 1: Molly want to Grammar this year for the song moving
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Speaker 1: on his hit collaboration with Jonathan mcreynold's. He's nominated for
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Speaker 1: three Stellar Awards this year. He's got back on the
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Speaker 1: road because COVID shut everybody down in twenty but he's
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Speaker 1: getting back out there. Gotta make that check, gotta make
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Speaker 1: that check. The things that started to open up across
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Speaker 1: the US and we'll be announcing new music and new
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Speaker 1: tour dates coming soon and I'll be the first to
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Speaker 1: put him out there for my man. Please work with
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Speaker 1: the money making conversation again, Molla music. How you doing,
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Speaker 1: Molly Wow McDonald has it goaling? What an honor beautiful
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Speaker 1: introduction to be back again. Hey world, let's get it well.
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Speaker 1: The think about you that you know when we talked, man,
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Speaker 1: it was almost because I have a I come from
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Speaker 1: a big family, Molly, you know, from Houston, Texas. I
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Speaker 1: have a six sisters, two brothers, and I felt I
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Speaker 1: was talking to my younger brother here. Man, you know,
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Speaker 1: because because you know you, you know you you got
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Speaker 1: that energy. Man, you you you still have unconquered territories
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Speaker 1: that you want to, like, want to want to want
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Speaker 1: to make a difference in. But the more for sure
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Speaker 1: it is we always can get boxed in, especially we
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Speaker 1: do R and B. People think, oh, you should be
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Speaker 1: doing R and B. You do country? What you what black?
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Speaker 1: What you're doing over in country? You should be over there?
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Speaker 1: And so we've seen so many walls coming down in
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Speaker 1: our era in this timeline. Are you feeling that's comfortable
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Speaker 1: for what you're trying to do as well. I do
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Speaker 1: feel that it's effective, but comfortable is not the words. Um.
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Speaker 1: It's good for what we want business to do. It's
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Speaker 1: good for the spreading of our wings. But it's kind
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Speaker 1: of like a racial conversation. You open up the doors
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Speaker 1: to be heard out by a different race, and then
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Speaker 1: it gets uncomfortable for just because you start bringing out
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Speaker 1: different issues. I recently traveled to Nashville to do some
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Speaker 1: songwriting with Chad lead Saying of the rock band Christian
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Speaker 1: rock band Unspoken, and it was a challenge for me,
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Speaker 1: especially coming from soul background gospel background, but I had
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Speaker 1: to remember I have songs out like Gimme, Gimme Ready, impulses,
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Speaker 1: songs that have rock feels for it. So man, the
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Speaker 1: spreading and the falling of the genres, it's definitely good.
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Speaker 1: I've been watching it happen in hip hop and other
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Speaker 1: genres for a long time, and I'm glad that it's
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Speaker 1: finally made it to the gospel. Well, you're interesting, But
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Speaker 1: it's about a beat, isn't it, Because when you're talking
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Speaker 1: about you know, because it is like a one three
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Speaker 1: or two four beat when you're talking about music, when
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Speaker 1: you're talking about R and B beats, and you're talking
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Speaker 1: about we're talking about rock beats, especially because they can
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Speaker 1: hang out notes a lot longer. How does that you know?
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Speaker 1: Because we all know that gospel is driven by emotion
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Speaker 1: and and so and so you're emotionally driven guy, and
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Speaker 1: then you're going to rock a lot of times it's
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Speaker 1: just driven by sound. So how do you blend the
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Speaker 1: two to get the results that you want? Excellent question. Well,
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Speaker 1: they bring me in normally as a lyricist, I write
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Speaker 1: lyrics like you know mean comes only to still killing
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Speaker 1: and destroyed. Come in with things like that, I said
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Speaker 1: a Christian rock band. One thing about the genre gospel
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Speaker 1: is it is sound. It doesn't necessarily have a sound anymore.
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Speaker 1: Of course, you have the Mahellia Jackson. You know, it
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Speaker 1: comes up. You know, you have the no you're not,
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Speaker 1: you know, house of prayer, and that's your house of prayer.
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Town, You have Baptist music,
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Speaker 1: um worship music like hill Song and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: If you notice, the music could be anything. Gospel and
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Speaker 1: Christian has now solely based in genre around the content.
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Speaker 1: As long as at some point you say that Jesus
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Speaker 1: Christ's Lord. It could sound like any type of beat,
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Speaker 1: you get what I mean. So our genre is mostly
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Speaker 1: about the edification of God, absolute sound. But it is
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Speaker 1: because we just talk amusing that molly okay, you know,
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that when you look at R
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Speaker 1: and B, you know, like you started naming different artists
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Speaker 1: that they lie themselves in the whole genre. Because because
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Speaker 1: when you got the hip hop and rap, it just
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Speaker 1: like tore it self away from R right, it towards you.
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Speaker 1: Just this is not even MARB. They don't even sing it,
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Speaker 1: ok they clearly not saying. And then when you get
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Speaker 1: into R and B had soul, you know, you had
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Speaker 1: had the deal. So yeah, all those different genres. So
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Speaker 1: when when you start talking about gosp, I started realizing, man,
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Speaker 1: there are many many layers. When you talk about Man Jackson,
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Speaker 1: you talk about Kurt Franklin, you talk about you, you know,
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Speaker 1: Donnie McClerkin. John Ki inquired, right, how did that? And
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Speaker 1: that's from a creative standpoint, that's a challenge. Huh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it could be. But what I noticed while coming up
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Speaker 1: in church is a lot of the creativity came out
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Speaker 1: of one person um creatively, like you might have had
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Speaker 1: six people in Ricky dillits quiet, but they were all
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Speaker 1: a lot doing riggy and everything that would coming out
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Speaker 1: of their mouth. And the band was something that he
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Speaker 1: probably heard at the coffee table that a few mornings
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Speaker 1: before and taught them say what Hezekiah. So being a
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Speaker 1: praise of worship leader, first, I know that you can
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Speaker 1: spend time with God in the car, Tell some vocalists
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Speaker 1: how the part go, tell the band, and before you
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Speaker 1: know what, you're in a high spirit of praise. So
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Speaker 1: the big ideas can come out of one person. Of
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Speaker 1: Beethoven had a whole orchestra, but it was his music
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Speaker 1: every line. So I think it's just um, you know,
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Speaker 1: just based on who the idea is coming out of,
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Speaker 1: and it could be one person, even though many people
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Speaker 1: of health. You know, when I want to look at you, Mally,
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Speaker 1: I always said I have to bring this question to
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Speaker 1: everybody who comes to the show. What did it start
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Speaker 1: for you? Because I look at myself and I try
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Speaker 1: to pinpoint. I always tell people I've been doing this
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Speaker 1: since I was eighteen years old when I really looked
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Speaker 1: at my life. You know, I've been I've been uplifting,
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Speaker 1: I've been creative. I've been a person who who thought differently,
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Speaker 1: just saw I saw a different path to success. I
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Speaker 1: came from a black neighborhood, but I didn't want to
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Speaker 1: to the world out there, and eighteen years old, I
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Speaker 1: was committed to seeing more of that world. So that
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Speaker 1: so I locked that day. That's important when it really
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Speaker 1: started for me. And then I went to college and
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Speaker 1: college changed my life. What did start for all of music? Well?
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Speaker 1: Out bagged my father for pro Tools, which is a
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Speaker 1: I'm always hearing moms saying, I'm always hearing my sisters saying,
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Speaker 1: I like the molly. I liked this conversation because of
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Speaker 1: Because you know. The thing about it is, if you're
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Speaker 1: a rap, if you're an R and B, you know
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Speaker 1: you yes, you can. You know, if R and B
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Speaker 1: If you're a rap in the street just just doing
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Speaker 1: rive for your crew, who were you doing it for?
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Speaker 1: My pastor gave me the opportunity to be minister of
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Speaker 1: music and start playing at his church when I was eleven. Now,
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Speaker 1: I said, I asked my dad for pro too that thirteen.
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Speaker 1: So I've already been singing as a minister of music
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Speaker 1: and playing learning chords in the church for three years
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Speaker 1: already on Yamaha d X seven. Now that's as old
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Speaker 1: the keyboard that you could yeah and be. I'm blowing
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Speaker 1: It's not what I need. So I was a young
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Speaker 1: musician coming in at the ship of a technological era,
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Speaker 1: like synthesizers were growing into bigger stuff when the churches
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Speaker 1: just before I started playing in church, which was very
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Speaker 1: early were mostly organ all right, so we didn't have
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Speaker 1: an organ in that church, so the keyboard wasn't enough.
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Speaker 1: So I wanted strings. I wanted all these different types
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Speaker 1: of things. So that's what kind of set the tone.
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Speaker 1: It was to please my pastor. It was to be
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Speaker 1: able to show that I was ready for the leadership
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Speaker 1: position that he gave me. Even though I was so young.
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Speaker 1: I anticipated for people to say I was unauthorized and
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Speaker 1: should not be associated with such a position light minutes
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Speaker 1: of music. So I gave my all to it. I
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Speaker 1: gave my commitment, and it kind of gave me responsibility.
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Speaker 1: Before I wanted friends, So now even though I had
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Speaker 1: friends and companions, I was if I wasn't doing chorus,
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Speaker 1: I was trying to make sure I got back to
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Speaker 1: learn my pro tools because my dad wasn't from the
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Speaker 1: boy me software that I didn't know how to use.
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Speaker 1: So now I have to read user books, manuals, and
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Speaker 1: I became pretty obsessive and a bit of a nerd
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Speaker 1: over the technological part. Once I started bringing CDs to school,
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Speaker 1: it was over. I'm singing for the dances, I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: doing the national anthem. Prerecorded over the I just was
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Speaker 1: finding ways to use the pro tools and it became
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Speaker 1: really awesome. But it didn't hit until the world heard
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Speaker 1: it on my Space. And that's where social media comes in.
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Speaker 1: That so my music was right on the curve of
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Speaker 1: a shift, and once everybody heard it online because black
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Speaker 1: Planet just died, I was in my Space artist by
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Speaker 1: the time they found Molly Music. I had my song
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Speaker 1: I Hate You No music all I have to give
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Speaker 1: and I think forward on my my Space page and
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Speaker 1: the rest is history. Well, history is still giving you,
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Speaker 1: uh love. You know, grammed with yours who have had
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Speaker 1: on the show. You know, working with artists like that
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Speaker 1: because he's really creative, he's young, and yeah, talk about
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Speaker 1: collaboration because that's a key because you know, I've listened
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Speaker 1: to writers and especial producers because they brought in for
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Speaker 1: enough to be able to get the finished product to
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Speaker 1: the end in his own So talking about when you
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Speaker 1: when collaborations, the one you did with Jonathan mcgrillo, which
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Speaker 1: want to grab me by the way, moving on, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much? It was such a gift to be
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Speaker 1: able to hold that coming out of the box, and
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Speaker 1: it represented what collaboration represents for me, sacrifice. Everybody wants
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Speaker 1: it to be them alone. Everybody wants to win a
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Speaker 1: race because of how good they are. But so many
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Speaker 1: things were going on and I just really wanted to
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Speaker 1: help so many people. I noticed once I got finished
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Speaker 1: acting inside of the like movie industry, that the most
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Speaker 1: important investment was like the last two million dollars that
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Speaker 1: a movie needs, and people can come on at a
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Speaker 1: final investor because a movie ran short on a ten
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Speaker 1: million dollar budget or something, that they give the final
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Speaker 1: two and then it is the breaking point of it.
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Speaker 1: That's what I started doing with my music. Jonathan had
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Speaker 1: a whole album, The People album was killing. He had
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Speaker 1: a whole campaign, But collaboration was just so we could
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Speaker 1: bring our jet packs together to get over the edge.
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Speaker 1: Of course we could do something effective in gospel, but
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Speaker 1: can we put a dent in the world, And that
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Speaker 1: was something we weren't planning to do. But the collaboration
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Speaker 1: goes in depth. It was agreement from me and Jonathan
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Speaker 1: and Spirit, but then it also was our teams. I'm
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Speaker 1: with r c Ai and he is with E one,
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Speaker 1: of people who just simply don't do that. In God.
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Speaker 1: With Phil Thornton, hey don't get me started. On the field,
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Speaker 1: that guy is awesome and he's been grinding from the beginning.
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Speaker 1: So I was so excited to see that his promotion
19:10
Speaker 1: finally came. So it's like Steve Nash, Oh, you have
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Speaker 1: a team now that you're coaching. Can I play with y'all?
19:16
Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily interested in functioning with the system this way,
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Speaker 1: prayers involved, and I could have success and it worked out.
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19:37
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Speaker 1: the Lord. It's a blessing to be here. I got that.
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Speaker 1: I got that. But I really think, I really think, Molly,
19:52
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20:03
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20:06
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20:12
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20:20
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Speaker 1: considered a gifted individual because you just don't slide over there.
20:27
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20:30
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20:36
Speaker 1: So that really kept you straight correct, yes, And then
20:40
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20:43
Speaker 1: You can get whooped by anybody, enjoy. So it was
20:47
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20:51
Speaker 1: the power God falls at a at a meeting, um.
20:55
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Speaker 1: gonna say. She will never get around the same. Good job.
21:04
Speaker 1: She says, don't forget where you come from. That And
21:09
Speaker 1: that's not mean that she seen me going play. She
21:11
Speaker 1: forgot to tell me that, but she let me know
21:14
Speaker 1: no matter what, that I needed to be humbled. And
21:16
Speaker 1: I remember those people or they'll say, alright, keep doing
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Don't change enough. They're gonna ask you
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Speaker 1: to do this, do that, don't change nothing. I'm like, yes, ma'am,
21:24
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21:26
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21:29
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21:33
Speaker 1: back and forth because you have some elite people who
21:35
Speaker 1: want to feel that they're around other pompous people. UM.
21:40
Speaker 1: But that's just not the way that I'm bringing it.
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Speaker 1: on any samples, getting all musicians taken care of. It
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25:56
Speaker 1: That was one of the things that had me a
25:57
Speaker 1: bit discouraged going in, you know, and it's always that
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Speaker 1: that commitment paying taxes, you know, paying for paying value.
26:13
Speaker 1: Then you can understand that how this really works, how
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Speaker 1: all these Steve Harger, all these people are able to do, Renee,
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26:44
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26:47
Speaker 1: noting that, that's so awesome for you to see and
26:50
Speaker 1: and catch because I can only hope that that is
26:53
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26:55
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26:58
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27:01
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27:08
Speaker 1: from this the artist's position. So it's good to like
27:11
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27:13
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27:15
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27:17
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27:23
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27:28
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27:31
Speaker 1: that because it's so complicated. And so I could assure
27:36
Speaker 1: you when you was making this transition, it was a
27:38
Speaker 1: lot of as they say, trepidation, fear, Yeah, you know,
27:42
Speaker 1: go uh am, I gonna make a mistake. I don't
27:44
Speaker 1: want to mess up. And then when you did it,
27:46
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27:53
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27:56
Speaker 1: of the fact that all along I could have done
27:59
Speaker 1: this when I had been told I couldn't do it
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28:04
Speaker 1: I hear you saying, man, it was a lot of stress,
28:07
Speaker 1: it was like, that's part of the process of walking
28:09
Speaker 1: through fire. Yeah, and you do it again and again
28:14
Speaker 1: and again, and guess what, it's not because it's easier
28:17
Speaker 1: because you trust yourself, right. And that's why we're trying
28:21
Speaker 1: to get that. When I'm talking to you as a
28:23
Speaker 1: person who said, look what, I won't be pigeonholed because
28:26
Speaker 1: I want to know what it feels like to do
28:29
Speaker 1: R and B music. I want to know what to
28:31
Speaker 1: feel like do rock music. I wanted to feel hip
28:33
Speaker 1: hop music because guess what, then I understand my value.
28:37
Speaker 1: And that's all this conversation about is about your value.
28:40
Speaker 1: The first time I met you, I always felt I
28:42
Speaker 1: was talking to a uniquely different individual because you value
28:45
Speaker 1: things differently. And now you tell me you've been doing
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Speaker 1: this since you were eleven years old, I appreciate and
28:50
Speaker 1: respect you even more. Man, I'm grateful for that, all right.
28:55
Speaker 1: Was blessed to be able to have those responsibilities, and
28:58
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I'm know, honor, that you've been
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Speaker 1: seeing and following what I've been able to do, because
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29:06
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, we think with myself and
29:08
Speaker 1: that people miss it. So it's really cool to see.
29:11
Speaker 1: But all of the positions were necessary. The first one
29:14
Speaker 1: was a servant leader. My mother was doing a lot
29:16
Speaker 1: of the management with Holly Carter. I was young. I
29:20
Speaker 1: had confidence in the music, but not necessarily confidence in
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Speaker 1: the meeting room, so I wouldn't speak much. I was
29:26
Speaker 1: also directed and told not to speak much. How have
29:28
Speaker 1: I started noticing that at the end of the day,
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29:35
Speaker 1: getting the first say, and you know, versus it kind
29:38
Speaker 1: of going all the way through and it me seeming
29:40
Speaker 1: like it's not that. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: that's the only way that I can keep it in
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Speaker 1: God's hands. That's the only way that I can keep
29:45
Speaker 1: the integrity of my anointing clear. If I wasn't in
29:48
Speaker 1: a situation where I can control these things, people will
29:50
Speaker 1: continue to say, even in churches, Molly, we want you
29:53
Speaker 1: to sing, but don't sing this song, don't say this,
29:56
Speaker 1: don't be this, don't act like this. Once I started
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Speaker 1: recognized sizing and seeing that that's what was going to
30:01
Speaker 1: happen early in gospel, I knew it was time to
30:03
Speaker 1: get out because there was no way to be what
30:05
Speaker 1: I was without the housekeepers of the places I was
30:08
Speaker 1: going to sing at protecting their people, right, and they
30:11
Speaker 1: protect their people from me. So I'm like, well, I
30:14
Speaker 1: just got to get out so I could go ahead
30:15
Speaker 1: and be everything that God said and then you guys
30:17
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about what you're telling me not
30:20
Speaker 1: to do. And it worked out in spite of a
30:22
Speaker 1: world of people, a whole wave of creative people, and
30:25
Speaker 1: it's caused me to not be able to stop even
30:27
Speaker 1: when the world stops. During the pandemic, I was a
30:29
Speaker 1: visualizing myself as a Joseph, like, Okay, well, everybody may
30:35
Speaker 1: not be able to get the best of what they
30:36
Speaker 1: wanted or liked while everything was flowing, but they could
30:39
Speaker 1: at least get this weak They could at least get something.
30:44
Speaker 1: And uh, and I have it stored up, so how
30:45
Speaker 1: can I bring it out? I already have an album out?
30:48
Speaker 1: How can I release the more? In partner with other people?
30:50
Speaker 1: And keep saying And it worked, COVID shutdown music, shut
30:55
Speaker 1: down live, shut down tour dates. Now we got new music.
30:59
Speaker 1: We got two days coming of tell us how one
31:02
Speaker 1: is going to play youself out for oh man? It's
31:05
Speaker 1: so packed and stacked and a lot of my colleagues
31:09
Speaker 1: are excited because they're saying that this is what they wanted.
31:12
Speaker 1: But during the pandemic, I recognize that I did not
31:16
Speaker 1: want to make my money on the road, primarily maybe
31:20
Speaker 1: when I was younger and all this stuff like that,
31:22
Speaker 1: And I get opportunities to sing and travel now because
31:24
Speaker 1: I really want to see my people, and I love
31:26
Speaker 1: the stage. Um, However, as a soul, you know, commodity
31:33
Speaker 1: or a stream of income, I don't feel like it's
31:35
Speaker 1: the ways. Uh, there's so many ways to make a
31:38
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars overnight if you can get
31:41
Speaker 1: the education and look versus waiting a whole month stressing
31:45
Speaker 1: your body and banging your body to gain five thousand dollars.
31:50
Speaker 1: You know here seven thousand dollars there. Sitting down forced
31:54
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31:56
Speaker 1: everybody's strongestinct from them. So this is a year for
32:00
Speaker 1: us to adopt and adapt new hobbies. And I used
32:04
Speaker 1: it to create new strings of income just in case
32:07
Speaker 1: the ones that closed and never came back. So now
32:09
Speaker 1: I created five, and then the five I had came back,
32:12
Speaker 1: and I was ten strings of income, and you know,
32:15
Speaker 1: it's a really crazy thing, and I wanted to make
32:16
Speaker 1: sure that the other five had nothing to do with music.
32:19
Speaker 1: So now when I sing, I primarily used the increase
32:23
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32:29
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32:33
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32:37
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32:41
Speaker 1: at the I went back and I told my stockbroker.
32:44
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32:46
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32:49
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32:51
Speaker 1: I want to buy. Oh, you know, I would have
32:54
Speaker 1: loved been in that. But trust myself, and yeah, I
33:00
Speaker 1: never trust myself. And so but I want to close
33:03
Speaker 1: and sing this about you is that you know, we've
33:07
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33:11
Speaker 1: we've seen an over groundswell of people wanted to see
33:14
Speaker 1: live events, you know, people concerts selling out the two
33:17
Speaker 1: or three shows, comedy shows. I think this is going
33:20
Speaker 1: to be such a unique moment for you, Molly, because
33:24
Speaker 1: to be able, this is the annointing time I think
33:27
Speaker 1: for individuals like you to get out there not only
33:29
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33:31
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33:34
Speaker 1: great year for you, man, and I respect so much
33:37
Speaker 1: what you've accomplished in the past. You got my hands up,
33:40
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33:46
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33:51
Speaker 1: heavenly anointing. I just don't want to take any credit
33:56
Speaker 1: for it because I can mess it up with human frustration,
33:59
Speaker 1: let me tation all this stuff like that. But I
34:02
Speaker 1: do feel like it's a last of events, so I
34:05
Speaker 1: don't want to just keep saying to everybody, this is
34:07
Speaker 1: the time for stories, plays, short short stuff, conversations like
34:12
Speaker 1: this on stage. It's time for people to, I guess,
34:15
Speaker 1: feel what it feels like to be around people again.
34:18
Speaker 1: And if we're creative in making events that are new,
34:23
Speaker 1: then we could just continue to That's what I'm talking about. This,
34:27
Speaker 1: that's all I'm talking about, because you know, because when
34:29
Speaker 1: you were talking about you know, you know you make
34:31
Speaker 1: five thousand and we I know we got that. But
34:33
Speaker 1: the basis of what we do in gospel is emotion.
34:36
Speaker 1: It's driven by opportunities, It's driven by blessing and the
34:39
Speaker 1: fact that you're about to step out into the world
34:43
Speaker 1: and be received again and people are about to understand
34:46
Speaker 1: the value of the Holy Spirit. My man, my hands
34:49
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34:59
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35:01
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35:07
Speaker 1: and he was saying, Molly, some people are looking for
35:09
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35:11
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35:14
Speaker 1: And it was really special for him to give me
35:16
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35:22
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35:29
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35:33
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say to your young brother, because
35:35
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35:38
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35:41
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35:47
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35:49
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