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If you're gonna indict Trump for documents, you better indict BIDEN TOO · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Classified documents from Biden's vice presidency have been uncovered at
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Speaker 1: the Pen Biden Center. Joe Biden, we're being told left
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Speaker 1: documents in an old office. Yeah, Attorney General Merritt Garland,
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Speaker 1: who assigned a US attorney to review the roughly ten
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Speaker 1: classified documents that were found in an old office of
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Speaker 1: President Joe Biden. Is what CBS reported on Monday in
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Speaker 1: a breaking news expose. The classified documents are from Biden's
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Speaker 1: vice presidential office at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy
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Speaker 1: and Global Engagement in Washington, which when which is in
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Speaker 1: close proximity to Capitol Hill. The classified documents were found
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Speaker 1: by Biden's personal attorneys just days before the mid terms.
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Speaker 1: Were being told November second that, according to Special Counsel
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Speaker 1: the President, Richard Sober, Sober said the White House is
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Speaker 1: cooperating with the National Archives and the Department of Justice
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Speaker 1: regarding the discovery of what appeared to be Obama Biden
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Speaker 1: administration classified records. Whence Biden's attorneys found the documents, they
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Speaker 1: quote notified the National Archives, who reportedly referred the matter
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Speaker 1: to the US Department of Justice the DOJ, leading to
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Speaker 1: Garland's appointment of the U s Attornemy John Launch to
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Speaker 1: investigate how the classified documents ended up in Biden's old
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Speaker 1: office quote the president periodically used a space from mid
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen until the start of the twenty twenty campaign.
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Speaker 1: On the day of this discovery, November the second, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two, the White House Council's Office notified the National Archives.
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Speaker 1: The Archives took possession of the material the following morning.
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Speaker 1: The discovery of these documents was made by the President's attorneys.
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Speaker 1: The documents were not the subject of any previous request
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Speaker 1: for inquiry by the Archives. Since that discovery, the President's
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Speaker 1: personal attorneys have cooperated with the Archives and the Department
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Speaker 1: of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama
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Speaker 1: Biden administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives. Now,
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Speaker 1: since I've given you this headline, let me tell you
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Speaker 1: what my gut is on this one. My gut is
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Speaker 1: that they know that not all these files are actually classified.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're in folders, but they'd been declassified. My gut
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Speaker 1: is this is a setup, a set up by the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration to show what you do when you have
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Speaker 1: classified documents, You immediately call the authorities. You immediately self report,
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Speaker 1: you immediately turn them over within twelve hours of the discovery,
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Speaker 1: fifteen hours discovery, twenty four hours of the discovery, you cooperate.
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Speaker 1: And then there's another part of this which I'm calling
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Speaker 1: bs on right now, and that is the part that
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Speaker 1: I think is the most absurd. I think the other
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Speaker 1: part is I think this was all planned the response
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Speaker 1: to make it look like they are treating Joe Biden,
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Speaker 1: the sitting president Unit States of America and these classified
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Speaker 1: documents the same way that they treated Donald Trump, which serious,
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Speaker 1: and the special prosecutor bringing in somebody from the outside, right,
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna say, well, we did the same thing
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Speaker 1: with Joe Biden that we did with Donald Trump at
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Speaker 1: mar Lago. The only difference was Joe Biden worked with US,
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Speaker 1: and at mar Lago did they refused to comply. I
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Speaker 1: think this is nothing but a deep state setup. See
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Speaker 1: there's no double standard here. See when we found these things,
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Speaker 1: or when these records were found by Joe Biden, we
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Speaker 1: treated Joe Biden the same way we treated John Trump.
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Speaker 1: The only difference was one man was smart enough to
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Speaker 1: work with US and comply and understand the gravity of
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Speaker 1: classified documents. In your possession, and the other one refused
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Speaker 1: to work with us, refused to turn over them, and
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Speaker 1: refused to ask them to do. These documents were discovered
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Speaker 1: by the present's attorneys, and the documents were the subject,
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Speaker 1: you know, not the subject of any previous requests. So
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Speaker 1: we're self reporting. So we're the good guys here. You
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Speaker 1: see how this is going. The statement from the White
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Speaker 1: House counsels all the cooperations with the National Archives for
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Speaker 1: me and Sam says the White House is cooperating, and
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Speaker 1: they put out a statement. I mean, they put out
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Speaker 1: this statement. It was perfect right. They've done everything right.
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Speaker 1: The White House is cooperating with an assal Archives and
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice regarding the discovery of what appears
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Speaker 1: to be Obama Biden administration records, including a small number
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Speaker 1: of documents with classified markings the documents. Again, White House
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Speaker 1: really covering themselves perfectly, right. They're the good citizens here,
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Speaker 1: they're the good guys. The documents were discovered when the
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Speaker 1: presents personal attorneys were packing files housed in a locked
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Speaker 1: closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn
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Speaker 1: Biden Center in washing In DC. So it was locked.
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Speaker 1: See if Marlago, remember all that oh out, But they
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Speaker 1: were they were unlocked. Anybody could get to them. There
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Speaker 1: was no security there, even though it was secured by
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Speaker 1: Secret Service. But whatever, right we got to paint a
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Speaker 1: picture here. These were locked up documents, These documents that
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Speaker 1: we didn't even know we had. We still treated them
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Speaker 1: with all the dignity and respect that you should have
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Speaker 1: a classified document. The documents were discovering. The president's personal
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Speaker 1: attorneys were packing. We're packing filed files housed in a
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Speaker 1: locked closet to prepare to vacate the office. The present
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Speaker 1: periodically used that space for mid twenty seventeen until the
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Speaker 1: start of twenty twenty campaign. On the day to discovery,
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Speaker 1: November the second, the White House Council's Office immediately notified
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Speaker 1: the National Archives. The Archives immediately took possession of the
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Speaker 1: material the following morning. The discovery these documents were made
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Speaker 1: by the president's attorneys. The documents were not the subject
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Speaker 1: of any previous request or inquiry. See we're different than
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Since that discovery, the President's personal attorneys have
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Speaker 1: cooperated with the Archives and the Department of Justice, and
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Speaker 1: a process to ensure that any Obama Biden Administration records
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Speaker 1: are appropriately in possession of the archives. See, we're the
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Speaker 1: good guys. We played by the rules. Sure, we've had
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Speaker 1: these documents for you know, five six years that have
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Speaker 1: been outside of their of where they're supposed to be held.
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Speaker 1: But hey, they were locked up, and hey it was
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Speaker 1: an accent. Hey, as soon as we found them, we
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Speaker 1: immediately turned them over. The classified documents were reportedly in
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Speaker 1: a folder that was in a box with other unclassified material,
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Speaker 1: according to CBS News. So see, there's no scandal here.
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Speaker 1: This was a true mistake. Mistakes happen, but when we
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Speaker 1: to the news media's spin on this story, classified documents
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Speaker 1: were reportedly in a folder that was in a box
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Speaker 1: with other unclassified material mistakes happen, right. However, CBS News
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Speaker 1: sources did not confirm what level of classification the documents
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Speaker 1: were nor what the contents of the documents were. All Right,
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Speaker 1: so let's just recap this real quick. Joe Biden had
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Speaker 1: some documents from Biden's vice presidency. They were undercovered in
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Speaker 1: an office he hasn't been using in a while while
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Speaker 1: they were packing that office up. But they want you
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Speaker 1: to know that they perfectly self reported this to the archives,
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Speaker 1: got the lawyers involved, called the DJ they did this
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Speaker 1: spot on. Is this really a big deal? Is it?
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Speaker 1: I would argue, no, why, because this is going to
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Speaker 1: end up being a CE I told you so, That's
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Speaker 1: all this is. This is a I knew what it looked.
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Speaker 1: I like to do this the right way. I knew
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Speaker 1: what this looked like, and we knew the protocol, which
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Speaker 1: is so different than what Donald Trump did. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I would argue, this is one of those moments that
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Speaker 1: may have all been preplanned, knowing that Donald that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden's not going to get in trouble, and so they
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Speaker 1: could use it as an example of why Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: should be in trouble and why the raid on mar
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Speaker 1: Lago was justifiable. CNN. They were talking about this yesterday,
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Speaker 1: their report being Gingle on the Situation Room yesterday with
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Speaker 1: wolf Blitzer. The reports at President Joe Biden had classified
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Speaker 1: documents from his time as vice president in his personal
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Speaker 1: office was a political gift to the former president Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: That's when I know, by the way, okay, that this
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Speaker 1: is BS. I don't think this is a political gift yet.
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Speaker 1: I don't trust the deep state, and I don't trust
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Speaker 1: the DOJ that's been politicized and has been spying on
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Speaker 1: Americans and getting people's Twitter accounts turned down, you know,
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Speaker 1: turned off, and monitoring conservative voices to make sure they
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Speaker 1: don't gain any more influence and can't reach their people. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I don't buy that this isn't all just a setup
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Speaker 1: to show okay, because it is this really a black
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Speaker 1: guy to Biden. No, it's not, because again he did
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Speaker 1: everything right and the other side did everything wrong. Anchor
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Speaker 1: wolf Blitzer said in that sixty minutes interview Biden did
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Speaker 1: on September eighteen, twenty twenty two, about a month or
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Speaker 1: two before these classified documents were found as private office
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Speaker 1: here in Washington, he said, quote, how could this possibly happen.
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Speaker 1: How anyone could be that irresponsible? Question Mark. That's what
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Speaker 1: he said. Then, and then they discovered these top seeger documents,
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Speaker 1: these very sense of classified documents as private office in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: So what the reporter had seen? N say back to
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Speaker 1: Wolfe for saying that. All right, look, I'm sure, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that he meant that. And it also looks terrible
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Speaker 1: in hindsight, because here you go, there were classified documents.
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Speaker 1: Here's what we don't know. We don't know how they
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Speaker 1: got there, we don't know who packed them up. Those
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Speaker 1: are things we're going to have to find out. We
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Speaker 1: need to know what's in these classified documents. Yes they're
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Speaker 1: top secret, but how sensitive is it? Are there sources
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Speaker 1: and methods is it? You know, just information that could
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Speaker 1: be dangerous or sensitive right now, question Mark. So those
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Speaker 1: are the things we have to find out. Those are
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Speaker 1: things that Justice Department is looking at. I'm not buying
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Speaker 1: any of this, crowd. I think we all can agree
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Speaker 1: right now as we have this conversation that there is
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Speaker 1: no way that Joe Biden is actually in trouble for this.
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Speaker 1: He will not get in trouble for this. There will
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Speaker 1: be no issues with Joe Biden getting in trouble for this,
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Speaker 1: So are they concerned? No? Do I think Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: and sleep well last night? No, I think you slept
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Speaker 1: like a baby because the game is medicine. Back to CNN,
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Speaker 1: she added, there's a big problem. There's a big political
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Speaker 1: side of this. This is let's assume for the moment,
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Speaker 1: this isn't was an accidental a mistake. This is the
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Speaker 1: kind of political unforced error that I can't believe Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump hasn't posted about yet. He will be shortly. It
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Speaker 1: is the definition of a political gift to the Trump,
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Speaker 1: to Trump and the House Republicans. Is it really a gift?
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Speaker 1: And the reason why I say is it really a gift?
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Speaker 1: Is if the DOJ's investigating and not the House, right
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Speaker 1: these classified documents that were at mar Lago, and the
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Speaker 1: FBI rated mar Lago over these classified documents, Is it really,
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Speaker 1: honestly a political gift, I would argue, No, it's not
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Speaker 1: a political gift. If anything, it's a this is how
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump should have done this. And watch how quickly
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Speaker 1: the conversation turns that I'm doing it before they are,
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Speaker 1: because they can't do it yet, Because they did, they
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Speaker 1: would actually look like the scumbags and the media that
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Speaker 1: they really are right, the pundits and CNN and CBS
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Speaker 1: and all these people that are quote reporting on this.
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Speaker 1: They can't go there yet, but they will in the
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Speaker 1: next couple of days because they broke the news and
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Speaker 1: now they can say, you know, it's very and watch.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a commentator, and this is how they're
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Speaker 1: gonna do it. They're gonna say. You know, it's very
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Speaker 1: interesting to see the difference in how this all was
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Speaker 1: handled from the Biden administration. They immediately you talked about this,
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Speaker 1: they immediately exposed that. They immediately were transparent. They immediately
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Speaker 1: called the dj they immediately self reported, They immediately called
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Speaker 1: the archives, and they immediately returned the documents. They didn't
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Speaker 1: fight over the documents. They didn't fight over where the
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Speaker 1: documents declassified or classified. They found these markings when they
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Speaker 1: were packing up this office, and they went through the
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Speaker 1: protocol perfectly. That's the difference between Joe bi and Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: You're welcome. You don't have to watch the news now,
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Speaker 1: the liberal news networks, because I just told you how
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Speaker 1: they're going to handle this. I don't believe for a
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Speaker 1: moment the Joe Biden or the White House Council, or
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, or the National Archives. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe that any of them for a second believe that
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's going to get in trouble the President Knights.
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Speaker 1: It's America for any of this. There's not gonna be leaks.
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Speaker 1: There's not gonna be pictures of these classified documents that
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Speaker 1: were taken by FBI agents that were leaked out to
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Speaker 1: the media like we saw, right, And remember the mental
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Speaker 1: picture that they wanted to paint to the American people,
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Speaker 1: which is that there was just top secret classified documents
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Speaker 1: scattered on an office floor at Marlago that anybody could
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Speaker 1: have come in that the cleaning lady could have just
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Speaker 1: cleaned them up with a broom, right and us pannon
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Speaker 1: chunked them in the trash, and then bad actors could
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Speaker 1: have gotten their their hands on it. That was the
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Speaker 1: That was the picture they wanted to paint. That was
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Speaker 1: the ball game for them. This was orderly. It was
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Speaker 1: in an office that somehow hypothetically is even more secure
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Speaker 1: because it's just steps away from the White House. Right.
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Speaker 1: That was in the article from CBS News, and they're
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Speaker 1: reporting so so this isn't this was These didn't travel
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Speaker 1: across state lines. This was right next to the National Archives,
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Speaker 1: right next to the White House. This was a secure office.
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Speaker 1: They were co mingled among non classified documents. This was
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Speaker 1: immediately and perfectly executed the way the law is written
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Speaker 1: and what you should do. So there is no problems
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Speaker 1: here for the president because they did it right. And
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Speaker 1: look how stupid Donald Trump was. And this is why
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Speaker 1: I should be prosecuted. You see where I'm going with us,
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Speaker 1: and say, you see where they're going with this now.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, by the way, has responded to Biden's classified
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Speaker 1: document discovery asked when the FBI will raid his many homes, right,
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Speaker 1: And of course they're going to answer Donald Trump. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna be like, they didn't have to raid them because
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Speaker 1: he self reported it. They didn't have to raid anything
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Speaker 1: because Joe Biden's this brilliant elder statesman who did the
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Speaker 1: right thing. Former President Trump responded Monday to breaking news
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Speaker 1: that the Justice Department is reviewing classified documents. Yahoo News
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Speaker 1: put it from President Biden's ten years vice president that
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Speaker 1: were found last fall in his private office. Biden had
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Speaker 1: previously used when is the FBI going to raid the
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Speaker 1: many homes of Joe Biden. Perhaps even the White House
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Speaker 1: question that Donald Trump asked, these documents were definitely not declassified.
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Speaker 1: Trump on true Social Sharing. An article on the document
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Speaker 1: discovery from CBS News, The Obama Biden A documents were
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Speaker 1: found by the president attorneys while cleaning out an office
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Speaker 1: he used when he served as an honorary professor at
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Speaker 1: the University of Pennsylvania's Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and
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Speaker 1: Global Engagement in Washington. According to Biden's special counsel, Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things here that are weird to
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Speaker 1: me as well. Why and when? Since when did attorneys
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Speaker 1: start I mean, seriously, cleaning out your office. Does that
18:40
Speaker 1: sound like a job that an attorney would traditionally do.
18:45
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with probably. Know. I've heard a lot
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Speaker 1: of crazy stories in my life, but hiring some getting
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Speaker 1: billable hours for attorneys to pack up an office, I
19:01
Speaker 1: don't buy that. It doesn't It doesn't pass the smell test. Hell,
19:06
Speaker 1: even for Washington, DC, where I am right now. I mean,
19:12
Speaker 1: think about the conversation that takes place when you're packing
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Speaker 1: up an office. Hey, we're gonna pack up our offices.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's hire some lawyers to do it, said
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Speaker 1: no one ever. Now, I can understand the lawyers being
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Speaker 1: involved in documents if you're leaving the FBI Director's office,
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Speaker 1: the CI director's office, of the presidency, of the vice presidency,
19:39
Speaker 1: but years later, while you're packing up an office that
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Speaker 1: was used at a university, after all the documents had
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Speaker 1: originally been packed up, it doesn't pass the smell test
19:52
Speaker 1: for me. I do not believe it. I don't buy
19:58
Speaker 1: this for a single moment. You don't hire lawyers to
20:04
Speaker 1: pack up an office. It just doesn't happen. But apparently
20:09
Speaker 1: in this situation it does, and you're supposed to believe this,
20:11
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to not ask questions about this. The
20:16
Speaker 1: Obama bidary documents were found by the president's attorneys while
20:19
Speaker 1: cleaning out his office. Again, all right, hey, Bob, you're
20:23
Speaker 1: a premium attorney. Grab Michael down the hall, will billable
20:27
Speaker 1: hours at twelve hundred an hour, and the three of
20:30
Speaker 1: us will go make thirty six hundred hours an hour
20:32
Speaker 1: packing up the former president's office, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: we have no indication that he had the classified documents there,
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Speaker 1: So why would you use attorneys unless you knew that
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Speaker 1: they were gonna find classified documents. That's the other part
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Speaker 1: of this that I want to ask a question. And
20:47
Speaker 1: when is someone the media going to ask just a normal,
20:50
Speaker 1: basic question like this, like this is a fair question.
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Speaker 1: When are you guys going to ask the question that
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Speaker 1: I just asked? Why is it normal protocol for lawyers
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Speaker 1: to pack up boxes? What were the billaball hours was?
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Speaker 1: How much does this move cost? Fifty thousand, seventy five thousand,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand. What does it cost for
21:12
Speaker 1: lawyers to pack up an old office? How many times
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Speaker 1: does Joe Biden packed up offices using attorneys not movers
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Speaker 1: or staffers, like it would be normal if he had
21:25
Speaker 1: some staffers, right, be normal. If his wife had some staffers,
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Speaker 1: It'd be normal if Hunter Biden's crime company with paid
21:34
Speaker 1: people to pack up an office, right, But to send
21:37
Speaker 1: in his personal lawyers to pack up an office, No,
21:42
Speaker 1: that's not normal. The Obama Biden ara documents found by
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Speaker 1: the president's attorneys in this article, it says that six
21:52
Speaker 1: times six times like in so in other words, he
21:55
Speaker 1: handled it perfectly. There was attorneys there. The attorneys are
21:59
Speaker 1: there cleaning out the office he used. The attorneys were
22:01
Speaker 1: there at this university. That was a secure location. The
22:04
Speaker 1: attorneys were there when they found these. It wasn't commoners,
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Speaker 1: It wasn't it. This was this was good, great, this
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Speaker 1: is great people. And man, did they handle it perfectly.
22:17
Speaker 1: The attorneys who packed for a living. That's an ad
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Speaker 1: you know, screw calling, you know, Corey B. Trots. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: call attorney, mister, clean it up. We'll clean out your
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Speaker 1: office three seventy five an hour. You want two of us,
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Speaker 1: it's seven hundred. We'll give you a deal for twelve fifty.
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Speaker 1: If it's three attorneys, top attorneys. We packed the crap
22:37
Speaker 1: out of any office. And then it goes right into
22:41
Speaker 1: the propaganda the mainstream media. Biden's legal team notified the
22:46
Speaker 1: National Archives, which took possession of the material. The documents
22:50
Speaker 1: are now reportedly locked at the US Attorney General's office.
22:55
Speaker 1: They're also being looked at by the US Attorney General
22:57
Speaker 1: for Chicago, with cooperation from the Why House. Yeah, because
23:01
Speaker 1: they're cooperating, it's fine. Trump was referring, by the way,
23:04
Speaker 1: to the FBI's execution of a search warrant last summer
23:08
Speaker 1: at Marlago, where investigators found more than a hundred classified
23:13
Speaker 1: documents kept past his time in the White House. Trump
23:17
Speaker 1: is now under investigation for his handling of the classified materials.
23:21
Speaker 1: We were told for months that this was treesus grounds
23:24
Speaker 1: for impeachment and meriting the death penalty. Yet I have
23:29
Speaker 1: a feeling nothing will happen, rode Donald Trump's sun Don
23:32
Speaker 1: Junior on Twitter, retweeting the CBS article. Notably, Biden's team
23:38
Speaker 1: notified the Archives and turned over the documents upon discovery,
23:41
Speaker 1: while the Trump here it is here, I told you
23:43
Speaker 1: this was gonna happen. I said this earlier, this new
23:45
Speaker 1: Yahoo News article here it is Notably, I said they
23:48
Speaker 1: were gonna play it this way. Biden's team notified the
23:52
Speaker 1: Archives and turned over the documents upon discovery, while Trump
23:55
Speaker 1: apparently kept classified materials even after requests from the Archives
24:00
Speaker 1: to return them. See one did it perfectly, the other
24:05
Speaker 1: screwed it up. The President of Records Act requires that
24:09
Speaker 1: presidential and Vice president of Records be turned over the
24:11
Speaker 1: National Archives at the end of a given administration for
24:15
Speaker 1: preservation and to protect classified material. See there's the difference.
24:19
Speaker 1: One guy's the good guy, the other guy's the bad guy.
24:22
Speaker 1: Now you know this is what propaganda from the government
24:27
Speaker 1: and the media sounds like. When they work together, the
24:30
Speaker 1: story is just too perfect if you think about it,
24:34
Speaker 1: it's too perfect. Government propaganda is when the government works
24:42
Speaker 1: to put out a story, many times with media partners
24:48
Speaker 1: who will sell them, sell the propaganda that they're pushing
24:52
Speaker 1: out there. That's what government propaganda is. This is no
24:56
Speaker 1: different than what they do in Russia, Cuba, China, any
24:59
Speaker 1: other place around the world where you have dictators right
25:02
Speaker 1: you plant this information. I'll give you example of there's
25:07
Speaker 1: a difference between propaganda and information. Yesterday I was asked
25:14
Speaker 1: to go to the Embassy of Hungary in DC for
25:19
Speaker 1: a meeting, and it was a meeting that was partly
25:22
Speaker 1: on the record and off the record about what's happening
25:26
Speaker 1: in Ukraine with Zelinsky, Russia putin Hungary and the leadership
25:32
Speaker 1: in Hungary. It was a very small group. There's three
25:34
Speaker 1: of us that were in the media meeting with the
25:37
Speaker 1: embassy and it was a meeting that they requested. Now,
25:40
Speaker 1: there was not that. This was not a propaganda meeting.
25:44
Speaker 1: This was a public relations meeting where they were wanting
25:48
Speaker 1: to explain what's happening with a humanitarian crisis and some
25:52
Speaker 1: of their concerns. Some of it was on background and
25:55
Speaker 1: some of it was off the record. The majority of
25:59
Speaker 1: it was on the record. One of the things they
26:03
Speaker 1: wanted us to understand, this was partly on the record,
26:05
Speaker 1: is hey, look, we're really concerned about the humanitarian crisis
26:10
Speaker 1: that's taken place. More than a million refugees have come
26:13
Speaker 1: into a very small country, which is hungry and from Ukraine.
26:19
Speaker 1: We've also had a lot of people that have gone
26:20
Speaker 1: back and forth and people that have come through our
26:23
Speaker 1: country going into European countries trying to make a living.
26:27
Speaker 1: This is information coming from a government. Now it's my job,
26:31
Speaker 1: obviously to verify that information. But it wasn't like they
26:36
Speaker 1: had a meeting. And this is the difference here with
26:38
Speaker 1: what's happening with this media and the Biden administration. Okay,
26:41
Speaker 1: where it's propaganda. If I took a meeting from the
26:47
Speaker 1: embassy with Hungary and they said to me, hey, Ben,
26:51
Speaker 1: we need you to push out a narrative for us,
26:55
Speaker 1: and this is the narrative on whatever the issue may be,
26:58
Speaker 1: arms or putin ers a sky and it wasn't actually true,
27:04
Speaker 1: but it was a half truth, but I need you
27:05
Speaker 1: to sell it as the whole truth. That's a meeting
27:08
Speaker 1: of propaganda. Okay, a very different thing. The meeting I
27:13
Speaker 1: had yesterday was the complete opposite of that, with a
27:16
Speaker 1: Hungarian embassy and the Ambassador to Hungary and the staff.
27:23
Speaker 1: This article and this disclosure of classified documents from Biden time,
27:28
Speaker 1: as the VP discovered in the closet being packed up
27:32
Speaker 1: by his lawyers and then turned over National Archives immediately
27:35
Speaker 1: the DOJ and working in cooperation and making sure that
27:39
Speaker 1: they right the wrong and all that. This is a
27:40
Speaker 1: story of propaganda. It is not normal to have lawyers
27:44
Speaker 1: at billable hours DC hours eight hundred, twelve hundred fifteen
27:48
Speaker 1: hundred two twenty five hundred an hour packing up boxes
27:52
Speaker 1: that you would have no reason to believe were classified
27:54
Speaker 1: documents unless you knew there were classified documents there. You
27:59
Speaker 1: found them and you said, oh blank, get me some
28:01
Speaker 1: lawyers over here. Will pay them to box them up.
28:05
Speaker 1: They'll be our representation. They'll call State, they'll call the Archives,
28:09
Speaker 1: they'll call the DJ and we'll do this perfectly. And
28:13
Speaker 1: then you do that, and then you sell it to
28:16
Speaker 1: the media who helps you sell it to the American people.
28:19
Speaker 1: That is propaganda. Now, let's put that into context with CNN.
28:27
Speaker 1: CNN says in their you know conversation here right, that
28:32
Speaker 1: these Biden classified documents quote look terrible. It's a political
28:37
Speaker 1: gift to Trump. I'm not so sure it is. I
28:39
Speaker 1: think this is actually going to be used against Donald Trump,
28:42
Speaker 1: because again I think this is the propaganda here. They're
28:47
Speaker 1: so transparent in the way that this is going down.
28:51
Speaker 1: It's childlike. I do not believe that lawyers move boxes
28:55
Speaker 1: are pack up boxes. I don't believe that that's not normal.
29:00
Speaker 1: I do not believe that you do it this perfectly
29:03
Speaker 1: without knowing there was classified documents there and then changing
29:06
Speaker 1: how you quote pack them up. I think maybe they's
29:09
Speaker 1: some random person of staff or found them. They said,
29:11
Speaker 1: oh blank. They called in the attorneys. They said, hey,
29:14
Speaker 1: the attorneys, you guys are gonna be in charge of
29:16
Speaker 1: packing up these documents. Oh look, we just found a
29:18
Speaker 1: classified document. Oh look, let's call the National Archives, Let's
29:21
Speaker 1: call the DOJ, let's call the White House Council. We're
29:23
Speaker 1: gonna do this perfectly. We're gonna put on the white gloves.
29:26
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure everything is spot perfect, and then
29:28
Speaker 1: the media is gonna sell this. Hell, we can even
29:32
Speaker 1: use us to hurt Donald Trump. We'll do everything the
29:35
Speaker 1: opposite of how Donald Trump did it, so that when
29:37
Speaker 1: Donald Trump gets indicted for this, they can use as
29:40
Speaker 1: an example of what you should do. You know, when
29:42
Speaker 1: Joe Biden found classified documents by accident, look how he
29:45
Speaker 1: handled it compared to how you handled it, mister president,
29:47
Speaker 1: referring to Donald Trump. This is the propaganda. So listen
29:53
Speaker 1: now with that context to c ann and listen to
29:58
Speaker 1: how they describe this as like a big breaking news deal.
30:02
Speaker 1: But notice they're really not. They're selling you on it.
30:06
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, about a month or two before these
30:09
Speaker 1: classified documents were found in his private office here in Washington,
30:14
Speaker 1: he said, how could this possibly happen? How anyone could
30:17
Speaker 1: be that irresponsible? That's what he said then, And then
30:20
Speaker 1: they discovered these sei these very sensitive classified documents at
30:26
Speaker 1: his private office in Washington. Right. I look, I'm sure
30:30
Speaker 1: that he meant that, And it also looks terrible in hindsight,
30:34
Speaker 1: because here you go, there were classified documents. Here's what
30:40
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know how they got there,
30:42
Speaker 1: we don't know who packed them up. Those are things
30:46
Speaker 1: we're going to have to find out. We need to
30:48
Speaker 1: know what's in these classified documents. Yes, their top secret.
30:52
Speaker 1: But to Evans point earlier, how sensitive is it? Are
30:56
Speaker 1: their sources and methods? Is it contemporary? Rainious information that
31:01
Speaker 1: could be dangerous or sensitive right now? So those are
31:05
Speaker 1: the things we have to find out. Those are the
31:08
Speaker 1: things the Justice Department is looking at. But as David
31:13
Speaker 1: Chalian pointed out, there is a big political side to this.
31:18
Speaker 1: This is let's assume for the moment that it was accidental,
31:24
Speaker 1: a mistake. This is isn't an amazing they give that
31:28
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt automatically. Let's just assume for a moment,
31:31
Speaker 1: this was an accidental thing, this was a mistake. Did
31:36
Speaker 1: they do that with Donald Trump? No? Hell no, Donald
31:40
Speaker 1: Trump's a felon. Donald Trump deserves to be in prison.
31:44
Speaker 1: Donald Trump deserves to be a get mo. Donald Trump
31:48
Speaker 1: put national security at risk. These things are just laying
31:50
Speaker 1: on the floor right. That was the picture of the
31:52
Speaker 1: FBI took Donald Trump's office needed to be rated in
31:55
Speaker 1: an unprecedented raid by a corrupt FBI at the highest
31:58
Speaker 1: levels who went in and rated a president's home, a
32:03
Speaker 1: private residency of a former president. Nittis America was rated
32:06
Speaker 1: by the government which he was the president of for documents, right,
32:11
Speaker 1: classified documents. So that was the narrative when Donald Trump
32:15
Speaker 1: when this happened. But but here right, NASA Archives refers
32:19
Speaker 1: discovery of classified documents in Biden's post VP office to
32:25
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, right, because we're gonna investigate this the
32:28
Speaker 1: same way. We're gonna say, well, we investigated Joe Biden
32:31
Speaker 1: the same way, and we investigate Donald Trump. The difference was,
32:33
Speaker 1: Joe Biden did it right. Donald Trump did it wrong.
32:35
Speaker 1: Donald Trump deserves to go to jail. Donald Joe Biden
32:38
Speaker 1: deserves to be you know, scolded in public. But he
32:41
Speaker 1: did it right. You gotta understand, he did it the
32:43
Speaker 1: right way. Accidents happened. But this is different. Right, They're
32:46
Speaker 1: CNN are already setting you up for this propaganda, political
32:52
Speaker 1: unforced error that I can't believe Donald Trump hasn't posted
32:57
Speaker 1: about yet. He will be shortly. It is the definition
33:03
Speaker 1: of a political gift to Trump and the House. Yeah,
33:06
Speaker 1: we have a lot more to report and to discuss
33:08
Speaker 1: about the breaking news that's unfolding right now. Let's stay
33:11
Speaker 1: on top of it. Classified documents once again found at
33:14
Speaker 1: one of President Biden's private offices here in Washington. We'll
33:19
Speaker 1: be right back. I mean, you just you just gotta
33:21
Speaker 1: love scene in here, right with big breaking news, private offices,
33:24
Speaker 1: it's found, the goj's involved, classified documents discovered, the NASA
33:29
Speaker 1: archives are involved. But again, hey, is it really that
33:32
Speaker 1: big of a deal. Is it really that big of
33:37
Speaker 1: a deal if you get the attorneys involved early and
33:41
Speaker 1: you hand it over and you do everything above board,
33:47
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the stinks. I think this is
33:50
Speaker 1: total I think this is all political theater. I think
33:53
Speaker 1: this is total propaganda from the Biden team, the White House,
33:57
Speaker 1: his lawyers who were packing him off. It is no
33:59
Speaker 1: one pays lawyers to pack up an old office like this.
34:03
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. I guarantee you somebody found these documents
34:08
Speaker 1: and they said, how can we use this to our advantage?
34:10
Speaker 1: Never let a crisis go to way. So all right,
34:11
Speaker 1: look you're gonna leave. We're gonna call in lawyers. We're
34:15
Speaker 1: gonna pay lawyers to be movers. Lawyers are not movers.
34:20
Speaker 1: They'll find the documents and then they'll do everything perfectly,
34:24
Speaker 1: and then we won't get in trouble for this, and
34:26
Speaker 1: it'll actually be more damaging to Donald Trump because now
34:29
Speaker 1: They'll be president of two presidents who a classified documents
34:33
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have in their possession, and one who did
34:37
Speaker 1: it the right way and didn't get charged any crimes
34:39
Speaker 1: because they did the right way, and one who did
34:40
Speaker 1: it the wrong way. Help. We may even be able
34:41
Speaker 1: to use this against Donald Trump at a trial, and
34:44
Speaker 1: that'll put him in jail. This will definitely get indictments
34:47
Speaker 1: if we do this the right way. Holy crap, this
34:49
Speaker 1: may be the best thing that ever happened to us.
34:52
Speaker 1: Great job, Joe Biden again. Notice the narrative Marlago unsecure,
34:58
Speaker 1: not true, secret service all over that place. You can't
35:00
Speaker 1: get in mar Lago to this area where these documents were. Well,
35:03
Speaker 1: what was what was at breaking news? We're being told sold.
35:06
Speaker 1: Sources are saying, what's right. Sources are saying, that's my favorite,
35:10
Speaker 1: that this was open the public, that the cleaning lady
35:13
Speaker 1: could have gotten in there, and these documents could have
35:15
Speaker 1: been sold off in state secrets to the highest bidder
35:18
Speaker 1: to China and Russia. Right, that was the narrative mar Lago.
35:21
Speaker 1: This one, Oh, this is a This is at a
35:23
Speaker 1: prestigious university right by the White House. Because proximity for
35:27
Speaker 1: some reason makes you believe that they're automatically by default secure.
35:32
Speaker 1: Go outside sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, walked down a seventeen
35:35
Speaker 1: hundred pin one block. You'll find homeless people. It's not
35:37
Speaker 1: that secure, folks. Okay, it's not US capital. Yesterday Matteos
35:43
Speaker 1: Campo is over in center Cruz's office. You walk outside,
35:46
Speaker 1: you can see some homeless people. Union stations right there.
35:50
Speaker 1: Guess what happens there. People, There was a shooting in
35:52
Speaker 1: union station the other day. Don't go in there. Is
35:55
Speaker 1: what they is. What I was told by the locals
35:57
Speaker 1: I used to live here, and that this town has
35:59
Speaker 1: changed very days. But my point is, just because you're
36:02
Speaker 1: right next to the capital doesn't mean there's not massive crime.
36:05
Speaker 1: Just because you're right next to the White House. Right, Oh,
36:06
Speaker 1: this university, it's right by the White House, so therefore
36:08
Speaker 1: it must be secure. Got to push the narrative, folks.
36:12
Speaker 1: No matter what, Donald Trump did not give back these documents.
36:19
Speaker 1: The National Archives had to discover they were missing. Oh wait,
36:22
Speaker 1: Joe Biden had some documents. But you have to understand
36:24
Speaker 1: they were they were put in. They were put in
36:26
Speaker 1: accidentally with it with unclassified documents. This was a mistake,
36:31
Speaker 1: and when they found the mistake, they called us. So
36:34
Speaker 1: we've got lawyer movers moving an office. That's normal. No,
36:38
Speaker 1: we've got a secure location. We want to imply mar
36:41
Speaker 1: Lago somehow wasn't secure even though it's a secure location. Right,
36:44
Speaker 1: there's a two difference in the media news media here,
36:47
Speaker 1: and we were self reporting. The other guy fought it.
36:50
Speaker 1: See Donald Trump still evil, Joe Biden's still a great American.
36:54
Speaker 1: What else do you need for me? This is all
36:57
Speaker 1: a ploy. Don't buy into it. Joe Biden is not
37:01
Speaker 1: in trouble. I guarantee you he did not lose any
37:04
Speaker 1: sleep over this. In fact, this is an opportunity for
37:06
Speaker 1: them to nail Trump again. Joe Biden didn't want to
37:10
Speaker 1: run against Donald Trump. I promise you that if you
37:12
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37:14
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