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Parisa Godoy; Go for it! · Spinning the Light Podcast

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Hello, and welcome to two girls in a pod.
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I'm Sharon, I'm Christy and we are super, super excited to have
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a guest on today. We met her because a friend of
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mine went to her to get her hair done and she looked fabulous
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when she was done. I said, where did you go?
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She said to Salon Bella. Yeah.
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So we decided, hey, let's have her Parisa on.
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So, give us your full name. Carissa good boy.
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Hello. Okay and Bruce that.
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You've kind of been doing this for a hot minute.
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Yes. Since 89, this is all what 34
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years and how long have you had this Salon?
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I started working as Salam Bella in 2001 and I took over Salon.
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Bella about eight years ago, okay?
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So we're going to even go a little further back and let's
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talk about, you know, kind of what kind of your dream.
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Aspirations where all that came from?
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How did you get into this kind of thing?
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Just so people kind of know that background because, you know, I
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think oftentimes people have a vision of what they want to do
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and then it's like, how do you make it happen?
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Right. Well, interesting, so I am
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originally from Iran and I moved to u.s. in 1985.
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So I was 13 years old and the reason we moved was because it
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was the Ron and Iraq war. So, So at that time, my brother
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before he turned 14, he had to leave the country unless he had
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to stay for future military. So my parents, this was the
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first time this was happening in our country.
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So my parents were worried about is so because of him we all
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moved to u.s. When I moved here, we actually
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came to visit my brother and we never went back.
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So things changed for us a lot. My brother moved.
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About six months prior to us, but when we came to visit him,
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my mom was like, he's only 14, I can't leave him here by himself,
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so we end up staying here. When you say he was 14, when he
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came here, where did he come to? And who did he come?
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We came. Um he actually got a student
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visa and he moved here and stayed with my uncle here is in
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Colorado Colorado Colorado. Okay and Denver.
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Okay so he moved there and stayed with my uncle and We came
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the summer to visit him as see how everything is goes.
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And he was not, he was 14, he was depressed.
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He was away from the family, we end up staying here.
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Long story short, my mom was a great chef and she got a green
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card towards working for us restaurant and we kind of worked
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under her actual, she got a work permit before a Green Park and
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we all worked and went to school under her under her Like an
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umbrella kind of thing. And then once she ended, I went
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to school at the beginning, I always loved hair.
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I always loved her. And then when I start school, I
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actually skipped 8th and 9th grade.
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And from seventh grade, I moved to 10th grade because of they
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did a test of Science, and Math, and all that stuff.
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And we were, I was a hit mostly, so they put me to Tampa.
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So I was only 13 when I was on 10th grade.
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So when I graduated, I was only 15 and a half.
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We'll talk about several culture shocks here because, you know,
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when you come and you know, we talk about culture on here too.
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What was that? Like for you?
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Because it's such a different culture from Iran on my, yeah.
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It's very different. Very different first, I, we
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weren't here to stay. We were here to visit.
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So, just leaving everything and coming.
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Basically things to you later and never go back, it was tough.
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So you left your home and everything.
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Everything every goodness. Okay.
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Left everything. And it was hard, it was really
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hard and we didn't come from money or anything.
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We actually, I worked at a church and I babysat, my brother
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worked as a janitor in a school. I have a sister that at that
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time, she was 7. So my dad would work.
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My mom worked. It was tough.
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It was very tough. He had a tough time.
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I'm I remember the time Halloween we dress up my sister
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and we'll go to each McDonald to just get a Happy Meal so we can
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we can eat, right? So coming from a family back
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home, that it was like it was all family and we were so close
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to something that you start all over again.
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It was a wake-up call. You were all on our own we're
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just a family that needed to kind of make sure we have eight
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hundred dollars a month to pay for.
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Rent to pay for the food. So we all work together, we all
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work together and our paychecks will go to my parents to make
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sure we have everything we would get.
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I don't know if you guys ever remember that Kmart Bluelight
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special. Yes, we had five dollar
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allowance out of our paychecks every week.
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So we will save it up. So we can go once a month to
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Blue Light, special, and Kmart expended that.
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And they used to have some good stuff at that.
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That was my favorite thing. I bought this for myself.
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Yeah. My only Buddy, isn't that
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amazing? It was so it's kind of very much
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a humble start for you. Yes, it was, it was tough.
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It was tough to see everybody, our family going through that,
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just to kind of survive in a country that is sad to say that
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we didn't want to go back to a country that was like, more
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pressure. And you couldn't do much so very
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different. So we started school here.
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I went to North High School in Denver and I graduated when I
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was little over 15, I still did not.
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We still at that point. Didn't have our, we were going
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to school and everything under work permit of my mom.
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So we didn't have a green card or anything like that.
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So I couldn't go to college at that time and you would have to
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have, I didn't have it my Brother did have a student visa
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but I didn't have anything. So we would you could go to tech
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centers or anything for like some like a cosmetology.
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I think I loved cosmetology. So we moved to Boulder.
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My parents open, it business in Boulder and I graduated at
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Boulder High my last year of school.
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I end up going to the text folder, text Center for
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cosmetology and I finished that in nine months, but it still did
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not have Work them to work. So I had people come over at our
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house and I would do facials and I will do hair.
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I got my certification and it will just tip me for what I
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would do. It was tough.
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It was very tough. Then when I turn 17, we end up
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getting interviewed for our green card, but the way that
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worked we had to lie. Leave the country and go to
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another country for our interview.
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And our interview had to be. If it didn't go well and didn't
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approve us, then we couldn't come back to the country.
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We would have to go back to Iran.
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So the interview was all about. If my mom is legit Chef, if she
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is really working at a restaurant, they would ask all
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that question. So we went for two weeks to
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germinate. Me and that's where the
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interview was. But we would have to get to the
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Germany that and then they will say, when we got the letters it
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says your interview would be within a week of this.
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So we would have to be there before that week and then go in
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and let him know. We're here and then give him our
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things and then they'll give us our interview.
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So the interview was my mom and my brother went in because of my
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mom wasn't speaking, well of English.
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So she would translate Eight. So, they asked questions about,
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how do you make this? Because she was special as in
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Persian food. How do you make this?
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How do you do this? And she got approved.
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We got approved. Then we had to wait to get a
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letters and stuff. So it took about two weeks in
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Germany to get our letters and then we came back to us and a
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few weeks later, we got our green cards.
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So then I decided to work at JCPenney that was my first job.
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I'm go to college. I wanted to do computer.
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Science is interesting because I always thought I'm going to do
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computer and all that stuff. I loved her, but I always
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thought I'm going to do that. So I went to college when I was
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17, I started computer science and I did not like it.
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That's when I found out, I would look at people's like, oh, I can
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do this with their hair. I can cut it this way, or I
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should, I should give her my card and I was Like this is not.
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I cannot sit somewhere, not talk, and give my opinion and
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just look at a computer. So let me see, if I understand
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this correctly, your classmates are in there.
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Your professors are in there and you're looking at, oh my God.
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They would look so much better on this hairstyle.
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Yes. Yes or looking at somebody's
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behind it. I mean, I'm back their hair is
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like oh no, it was bad. It was like, I couldn't
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concentrate. So I came home and I told my
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parents that I know, I will finish school but I'm not going
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for computer science. I got my associates degree in
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marketing. Okay, so that's kind of small.
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Yes, I got my associates degree marketing and I've been one of
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those people that is like, if I have a dream, I'm just going to
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go for it, which I really highly recommend it.
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Don't get scared. Don't look at things.
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Just do it and work hard on it, you know, at it to get where you
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want to be. So even within that when you
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said, you know, you have that dream.
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Did you, did you look at the steps to make it happen while
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obviously, because you went into marketing instead of computer
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science because computer science was going to do anything for
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you? Yes.
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And I wanted to have a degree but honestly out in the field is
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where you learn everything. Yes.
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You have the tools. Yes.
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You can marketing. Even, like classes, I could have
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even take classes business classes and learn what I've
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learned. But I was like, after the school
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after night, this is what I want.
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I want to have My own Salon. Okay.
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And that was my dream. That was like, I don't care how
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old I am, I don't care if I'm able to, I didn't have money,
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but I wanted to have my own squat.
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I was 19 that I opened my first salon and Denver, and he was
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Salon Parisa on Dry Creek and University.
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And I just went and I just got a place small, it was in a
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shopping center. Our, I knew that I had to come
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up with this amount of money to build it.
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I ask for help. I asked, I had a couple of
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people that made us stations. I looked around and I bought
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used chairs and use shampoo bowls and family helped to
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install it. It was doable, it was doable.
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And then I started at the beginning, I all I cared was to
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make the It's is so I didn't care to make so much money.
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I care to make the payments and for two years commit myself that
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I can make the payments, I live with my family, whatever I need
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to do and I hired a couple of few people that had clientele
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with the cheap Booth so they can just kind of start and then
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that's how I started I started and I had that Salon told my son
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was a year old. I got married.
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I still have my salon, I had my son and he was a year old and I
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sold it to my nail tech Monza. That was my first Salon, it
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wasn't easy but I can tell you that I was only 19 when I did
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it. So and you feel like at this
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point it was worth it, right? It's worth it.
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It was worth it. Yes, you work hard, but if you
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really want it you get it. Well, I think there's such a
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difference. To when you're doing those kind
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of businesses like when you do the cosmetology because that's
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so much about also giving something to the person who
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comes in right? He said I mean, it's like a,
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it's like a different relationship.
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I tell you, she makes her hair look beautiful.
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Yeah, you know, I chose this because I love what I do, right?
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And I have to say it, there is money in it.
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People sometimes I think a lot of stylus or cosmetology when
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they go into it. And at the beginning is hard,
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everything is hard at the beginning, you have to build
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that clientele, you have to be social, you have to, but it's
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definitely if you have kids, if you have family, you take care
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of is definitely one of those businesses that you can work
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around all that, you can set your schedule, you can be with
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your family and work two days of 10 hours a day.
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And then have three days off with your family is one of those
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jobs that you Can make a living, a good living and set your
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schedule, but you do have to work hard, you know, it's really
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interesting because every once in a while when I'm talking to
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people and we've talked about this to someone to say, oh,
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that's too much to pay for hair. I'm not going to pay $30 for a
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haircut or whatever. I think, people forget that even
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haircuts go with inflation, it does.
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But also goes with education, I actually did have there was a
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time that I had a client, I walking walked in and I was
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doing a haircut and she walked in and she asked how much is a
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haircut, and we said start at that time, well, that was few
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years ago, several years ago, at that time, it started at 45.
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Mmm, she said 45 to just cut my hair, what do you do?
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That is so special. You know, interest.
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Part is I couldn't answer that at first.
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I was like, I was off guard. I don't like it's 45 and I just
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left that way that night I came home and I was like why did I
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bothered me that? I couldn't answer her and I
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couldn't come up with something to say.
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So I was like, why am I charging 45?
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And then I realized, okay, I put money into school.
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I go every three months. I go to classes.
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Has I pay for those classes? I pay for my trips to Chicago
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for a hair show and see what's new.
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What's out there? Stuff is the education that
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ongoing education that I get that.
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I actually deliver to a client and I wish I was like I wish you
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would come back so I can answer that question.
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What we're taught, but you learn, it's like interesting to
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know that this is it. When you come and sit in my
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chair. I'm not just taking the scissors
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and It. Okay, this is what you want.
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I'll give it to you with sit and talk.
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We have a consultation I'll let you know.
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What will look good. I'll teach you how you do your
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hair style every morning. If you don't know how to do it,
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I'll tell you to come back. It's all of that is part of my
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hair cut and that's what makes it different than the other
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people, and that is the specialist.
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Like, if you come in and get your haircut and you get your
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and I show you how to style it, but you go home and you don't
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know how Ow, call me. That's what I tell him.
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Call me. I'm with white hair.
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Come with your blow dryer. Come with your round brush.
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You're going to do it. I'm going to watch.
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And a lot of times you see how they section their hair, or they
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hold it brush and it's wrong. And once you teach them is
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priceless. But yeah, what kind of
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interesting because you'll do that.
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Okay, just so everybody knows, I do not, do my own hair Parisa,
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cuts it colors, it make, does that part?
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And then Christie does the straightening stuff Socastee.
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Irisa and Christie talked about what they're going to do to my
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hair. She said, sir to make sure we're
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on the same page he tells you what to do is easier for her to
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style which I love. You know what?
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I'm okay with that because I know what my areas are and
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stuff. So I know it's not my area
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people I will mess with somebody's mind every day but
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please do. Make me mess with my hair.
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That's where I'm at. But you know we have a friend
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June. We're talking to her one day and
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we were talking about services and one of the things she said
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is you got to charge what you're worth and you know because I
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know I struggled with that. I've been a therapist for over
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20 years and even to set a rate on their like, oh God.
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That's too much. And I forget that if people
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really want the service, they will pay for it.
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Yes. And there is value in the And
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like you said, you know, I do trainings, I have to keep my
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licensure up, you know, I had to do a master's degree with two
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years post in order to get this license.
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So it's and then I've been in this business for a long time,
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and I think that's what it is is when you learn to charge your
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worth because a lot of times people don't see those behind
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the scenes things that take place and no real Transitions.
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And you know, is other things, too.
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I mean, I've been doing it for 34 years.
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Imagine what it's doing to my hands right on my neck.
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All of that is Is coming out of my pocket to make sure I'm
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feeling good and giving still what I can to people.
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And I highly recommend if when you going I mean if you really
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don't your hair cut your hair doesn't matter to you which I
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think it's wrong. And I'll go over that, too.
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But then do get a ten dollar haircut.
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If you really do don't you don't really care and you don't mind
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it, but I think the hair the eyebrows is framing around.
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Face, it makes you feel good. When you get up and you have it,
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it's like bringing a PJ all day. You're going to add, you're
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going to feel like you're in bed, the hold it.
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But when you get up and do your hair, your makeup, your self
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steem changes. Yeah, you want to go out and do
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something? You think about how great you
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look or how within yourself, you're strong to do whatever you
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want. Do right now.
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It really is a lift up. Its I feel like you should as a
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woman. You should take care of
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yourself, right, little things, it doesn't have to be.
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So if I think every woman is beautiful, every shape, every
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body is all about yourself, how you present yourself as you've
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done this? When you talk about self-esteem
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and stuff, do you have any of those clients of yours that?
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I just stood out that come in and you see him?
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And you can kind of almost feel that lack of self-esteem or
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whatever. And then you do this haircut on
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him and then they see themselves.
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Absolutely. Little late.
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Absolutely. There is so many clients that
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come in and the first thing they do is they look at their flaws
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like yeah. My forehead is too too short or
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too long. I have this on my neck is you
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know wrinkled or something. Or so you kind of look at that
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stuff but you also try to tell them.
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No I mean okay your forehead. Is too short.
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Let's do this haircut. That makes it like let's give
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you a little bit higher bangs that comes a little bit further
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back. So it makes your forehead look
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longer when you things are a little bit coming back.
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Little bit further into the back of your hair.
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So it's like it will help you to get that longer for head or your
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neck. So let's cover.
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Let's do framing little bit around your face so that will
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help with the not showing much of your neck.
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But you also have to remember, okay?
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You have beautiful eyes, you have a great cheekbones so let's
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let's get something that makes that show more menu.
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Let's do some few highlights around your so it makes
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picturise come out got beautiful blue eyes with a beautiful skin
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of this. If you do little bit of a red
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it's going to make it, bring it out, copper, is going to bring
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it on. So play with the beauty of the
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certain features that they have and then try to kind of like
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Bring those up and minimize minimize the other and that
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helps. But those are all from again,
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from what I've learned, what I've seen in pasture.
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I mean, sometimes we are like the therapist as well, because
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the therapist of beauty, they don't see it, they don't look at
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it or, you know, the sit there. And there's a lot of times they
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sit there and talk about their family or talk about this and
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talk about while they're getting their hair done.
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But at the end when you show them, that beauty, all of that
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is gone. All of that is just like a
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relief. They talked about it is back.
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Now is about themselves now. It's about their hair and their
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beauty. It's just beautiful.
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Yeah, I'm always curious and person knows this so whatever
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she's doing, I'm always asking if yes, what are you doing?
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Why is that? And I always love that you
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always answer my questions. Yeah because to me it is such a
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foreign thing and even like we talked about this, you know,
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people A picture in and say, make me look like this.
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Yes, yes. I do.
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Like when people bring pictures and the reason I like it because
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then I can compare with them, okay?
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Some people bring pictures and they have very fine hair and
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they bring this curly hair picture, and it's a doable to a
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point. It's not going to be the same.
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But how much time are you going to put on it?
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Are you going to get up every morning and wash it and curl it?
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What do you do with your hair? Those are the questions you
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should. If your stylus is not asking
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you, you should either ask them or tell them.
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This is what I do with my hair, I don't style it.
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I don't use round brush or I get up in the morning and use a
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curling iron and a round brush based on what you know, tell me
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what you can give me, if the status is not asking, this
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should be you asking them otherwise as a stylist.
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I do. I sit down.
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Ask them the first time when they become the first time
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because I don't know them, they don't know me.
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So I asked him if it's a haircut.
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What do you do with it? How do you dry it?
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How often do you wash it? You use a round brush to use a
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blow dryer. Do you let it dry?
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Naturally? Do you curl it?
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Do you use any products? What kind of products do you
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use? All of that is based on what I'm
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going to give you? Are you going to be one of those
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people that are going to be getting up in the morning and
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just kind of like wet it and let it dry?
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Naturally. Or are you one of those that he
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would like to blend brush it and blow dry it?
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Based on that, I can tell you what's better for your hair and
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I love that you go into detail like that and it really is.
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It's been an education. And yeah going there because
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there was a lot of ideas I had about.
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You know, how when you go in, just take a picture in like you
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say, and oh yeah, I would love to have this, but I love that
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you work within the framework of what that person does on a daily
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and that, and you help them to understand well, Don't want to
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spend this much time, or whatever.
24:31
Then look at this, or that is very huge, is a huge thing.
24:37
I've seen clients that come in every, which is totally, this is
24:41
their budget, and it's great. They still come to me and I love
24:44
that. But they come every three to
24:46
four months, to get their hair cut color, mmm.
24:49
So, sometimes they come in and they want this bride or this
24:55
like a platinum blond or something.
24:58
So I have to sit down and talk To them, I'm just giving a name
25:01
Jenny. Do you really want this?
25:04
That means you have to come in your this level of a color is
25:08
six level lighter than your natural color.
25:11
So if you're coming right now in four months, are you willing to
25:15
come in in eight to ten weeks and pay this amount of money?
25:19
So I'm not only yes, I'm going to make a lot of money, but is
25:23
this client going to be happy with that?
25:25
And coming in at 8 is, can she afford that that I'm not here
25:29
to? Speak that money at that day and
25:31
that time and let her go and then not knowing if she's able
25:35
to. And then next time she has to
25:36
pay more to bring to recolor it and change it to what she was
25:43
every four months that I was she was coming right and under
25:45
helping them understand that that's a very gradual process.
25:49
The picture that you bring in, you may not be able to walk out
25:51
of here with that today because I got to light.
25:54
Exactly. And there is like I have clients
25:56
that they want to go from to their natural color.
25:59
Oh, great. Yes, I can do that but that is a
26:03
day of work, right? That is 150 to 250 dollar an
26:07
hour. Yes, you don't have to come, you
26:10
may have to come in for a toner couple of times between and I
26:14
can get it as close as I can but which is great.
26:17
Some people will spend it and never want to color their hair
26:19
again. But they also need to understand
26:21
that this is going to be in six months.
26:24
You still have to come in for a tour just because you pay me two
26:27
thousand dollar for Your hair all the way doesn't mean there's
26:32
nothing else will do. Those are the things you have to
26:35
know before you walk in and ask for something that which was
26:39
interesting because my hair is purple.
26:42
And so my thing is is the purple just put purple on purple is a
26:46
dark color. Come on now and you know, Percy
26:49
had to educate me. Yeah, because it was it was,
26:52
it's kind of been a process. It is a process.
26:54
You have dark. Let me go over your hair.
26:57
You have dark hair with gray. When you put color people think,
27:01
oh, you can just put color over, it will color deposit, doesn't
27:05
lift. The only thing that will lift is
27:07
bleach bleach or higher, developer, of colors will lift
27:12
the color. So you have to lift the color
27:15
first and get it to a highlighter level of a 9 to 10,
27:19
which is more of a blond. Then then you can apply any
27:23
color you want to, but you also have to cocktail the color
27:27
purple's greens aqua. Those are secondary colors or
27:31
not a permanent are the you have to mix those colors to come to
27:36
that color. So you have to make sure that
27:39
the level of the blonde you have underneath is this level that
27:43
actually this color is going to come.
27:45
If you put a purple on a black paper you're not going to see
27:50
it. If you put a purple on a yellow
27:52
paper, you'll see the different of a purple.
27:55
But you will see is different than a white paper.
27:58
So it's all Depends That Base color.
28:01
The paper is your hair so if it's black is not going to show.
28:06
If it's yellow is going to show a different purple.
28:08
If it's white, it's going to be a bride of purple.
28:11
You know. One of the things that I found
28:12
really interesting that you said to us is when you come out and
28:17
you'll like Christie's hair is like a tle color and but you'll
28:22
come out and you'll show it and you're right, it's like you're
28:25
looking at it but it's like you're seeing different colors,
28:28
each person. See a different color in that
28:31
color. I write it is true.
28:34
It depends on the eyes. Your eye color, I have dark eyes
28:39
so I see green and blue and red differently than green eyes and
28:43
blue eyes. So a lot of times I bring, when
28:46
you tell me you want a red hair or blue hair or green or copper
28:50
or whatever or just a brown, I bring the color to you because
28:56
what is brown to you than me, right?
28:59
Right, that's very different. You see brown that I see a
29:02
little red in it, but you see that as a brown?
29:05
Yeah. Or you see it ash brown.
29:09
You see a very ashy Brown as a brown and I see that as like,
29:14
total green and bass in it. So, it's very important when you
29:20
ask for a collar. And the person says, okay, you
29:22
want Brown. I'll, you know, I'll call your
29:24
hair brown, ask them, can you bring the color swatch so we can
29:29
see. The Browns that you have.
29:31
Well, I know one of the things you did with me because I would
29:33
say about a brown and I know I would bring a picture and you
29:37
would look at it and you would ask me how I see that because
29:40
you would say about how you see a little red in it and I'd be
29:43
like, oh no, I don't want anything with a red undertone
29:46
because I know. Is it lightens?
29:47
It's going to look orange. And I don't like that, right?
29:50
So but I didn't see it that way. So exactly.
29:53
It all depends on the. It's that's why it's very
29:56
important to look at the color swatch because was especially,
30:00
especially if your client comes in and I see.
30:04
Okay, she has green eyes, she's seeing things a little different
30:07
than I do. So I need to bring it
30:09
regardless, you should, because people don't some people are
30:13
colorblind. So two people don't see same
30:15
color as you do a purple or a green special, that kind of
30:19
colors are not the same as what I see.
30:23
And a lot of times I show you that color but that and you
30:26
said, this is what I like. But that doesn't mean I'm going
30:28
back and said, cut Eggs in the same thing.
30:30
I have to mix something that is actually is going just like
30:34
those papers if it's yellow and you want it to look like the
30:38
purple under white. I need to go and cocktail that
30:41
to make sure that color comes out the way.
30:44
You see it? Well, I think those are the
30:46
behind the scenes things, you know.
30:48
We're just, like I said, we're curious by Nature.
30:49
So we're like I said, always asking questions because those
30:53
are like, well, why are you doing it that way?
30:54
And then, you'll tell me while if it doesn't bleed onto this or
30:57
whatever. Yeah, but I think, That if it's
31:00
something that it's like your hair, while my hair is important
31:02
to me, but I think most people's hair should be important to
31:05
them, but if it is whatever it is, that's important.
31:09
You ask a lot of questions. It doesn't matter what it is.
31:12
Whether it's your hair, you know, whatever, Italy,
31:15
absolutely, you should feel. Like, if you ask the question
31:19
that it's not a working relationship because I know for
31:22
you, that one time, you went to the one and you wanted your hair
31:24
done differently and her response was what.
31:26
Oh yeah, she was not happy. So I just The last time I went
31:30
there and I understand that she, she was a professional, she
31:35
probably knew better than me in that situation, she didn't
31:38
explain or do anything like that.
31:40
And I love that about you because you always you know,
31:44
explain why you know you think it's going to come out this way
31:47
or whatever and and you just really helped educate us on that
31:51
and I think people should ask more questions like that and
31:54
hopefully they get somebody purses great about that.
31:57
She'll answer your questions and and And help you to understand
32:01
why you wouldn't might not choose this.
32:04
Yeah, you don't want to come out of there, feeling bad.
32:06
And I think you really did in the way because she didn't say
32:09
it nicely, she was very abrupt. She was very it was the way when
32:12
she said it and that was really you know and Christy walked out
32:16
you know they're like whoa you know so do we want to go back to
32:20
somebody like that know when you're sitting in a stylist
32:24
chair, I feel like if you were there for 23 hours, you need to
32:28
know what's happening. You need to know what's going
32:31
on. If this is the first time a
32:33
client comes in for instance you guys come a lot.
32:35
So now you know, the procedure if I'm doing totally something
32:38
different than I will explain it but and if you have questions,
32:42
you ask, I'm because you already know, I explained everything.
32:45
So you're feeling comfortable to the that kind of stuff, but the
32:48
first time you come in and if I'm doing anything to your hair,
32:52
I will tell them. This is what I'm doing.
32:54
I'm back combing, your hair because you don't want it on the
32:56
roofs and if I back comb your hair, it I will eliminate those
33:00
lines like extrait lines that you can see in a highlight.
33:04
So I have to explain other words.
33:06
If I start back combing your hair and putting a colors.
33:08
Like what is she doing right? Why should why should tangling
33:11
my hair is this is going to damage my hair.
33:13
You will not know what I'm doing and I'm just going with my work
33:17
well that's wrong. That that is wrong.
33:19
I got all these education so I can educate you with it.
33:24
Not just for my own knowledge. You need to know what's
33:26
happening with your hair. If I'm doing a On blowout or a
33:30
carrot. And a lot of people call it for
33:32
a keratin or a Brazilian blood. They don't even know the
33:34
difference. They don't even know what it
33:36
does. They think it's going to
33:37
straighten the hair. It doesn't, it doesn't
33:39
straighten it. The hair, it just relaxes the
33:42
role. They don't even know what the
33:43
steps. So if they come in and spending
33:45
three hundred fifty dollars on it thinking, oh, I saw it online
33:50
and this is what it does. Well, I need to tell you what it
33:55
does and how the processes work and why is $50, you're not just
34:01
paying me that much because I it's on YouTube, and this is
34:05
very, you know, out people everybody's doing it.
34:08
So I'm going to cost charge of this.
34:11
Well, and I think the other thing is too is that sometimes
34:13
we have different terminology like I call it tame.
34:16
When the Keratin to chain fits my hair will be unruly if I
34:19
don't do something sometimes but also all use the term, I want it
34:24
to look more edgy. And so as of use these terms
34:27
list, And that's why we have Christie as my interpreter when
34:32
it comes to. Yeah, I know.
34:34
There's sometimes, I'm like, explain what you mean by edgy,
34:38
its you have to because what again what you thinking is
34:42
totally different than what I'm thinking, right?
34:44
Everybody's perception perception.
34:46
And I think what's really cool is, I think, you know, in for us
34:49
and I don't know about y'all out there but finding somebody with
34:52
your hair. You want to find that person.
34:54
Once we find somebody where they're like, oh God, please
34:56
don't retire, don't move, do you know what I mean?
34:59
Because it becomes a really strong working relationship,
35:04
right? Let me yes.
35:06
So there is a couple of things like when you try to find
35:09
somebody ask the questions. If they don't ask those
35:13
questions, have your tools with you.
35:17
I don't like to come in through a I only like to color my hair
35:20
every three to four months. So if I do this, is this going
35:23
to be a problem. I don't like roots and I want to
35:26
come in every three weeks. So what do I need to do?
35:29
All of that ass. All those questions asked?
35:33
I'm not sure. I don't blow dry my hair.
35:35
I have calyx and I don't do this.
35:37
How do I do? My Banks?
35:39
There is so many ways, they have to educate you.
35:42
If they don't know how to educate you, you're there.
35:45
If you want to get that haircut, go ahead.
35:47
But you are allowed to say, okay, I'm not I know what why
35:51
don't you just wash and style my hair today or do a consultation?
35:55
Don't even make an appointment for a color and cut first.
35:57
Go for a consultation consoles. Patients should be always
36:00
complimentary as is that if this Stylus is very confident of
36:04
knowing what she does and is great, then do a consultation
36:08
just call for a consultation 15 minutes consultation.
36:11
This is my concerns, this is my needs.
36:15
What can you get me? How can you help me once again?
36:19
I think those are the really cool things about it and I think
36:23
that once again being open to having that relationship with
36:26
that person because when you don't, Really is a relationship
36:30
building thing because even I know for me and I think even for
36:35
you, trusting people with my hair.
36:38
Yes. Is it's huge.
36:40
And so I want to be able to have that if I asked question to feel
36:46
like that person's going to engage with me.
36:48
But not only that, he goes beyond, I don't know.
36:51
I think you have to get really good.
36:53
Not really good but I think you have to really work on the
36:55
relationship because, you know, one of the things we love about
36:58
going to you to is Harissa loves to travel.
37:01
Yeah. Yeah.
37:03
So you get it, you really get personal with you.
37:05
Yes, so share with everybody. What did you do for the holiday?
37:11
I do love to travel. We decided to go for our
37:15
Christmas and our new year, and the new year and anniversary to
37:19
Europe. So we went to England, Amsterdam
37:24
and Paris. And, you know, it's interesting,
37:27
I booked it all myself and I Everything myself but it was
37:31
because of my clients. Hmm, their experiences they told
37:35
me where to book this or what to do, download this and do this.
37:40
So I love the fact, I have that kind of relationship with my
37:44
clients. You have to have a relationship
37:46
with your clients, I love the fact that they text me.
37:50
Did you do this? Oh by the way let me send you
37:53
this and this would be a good and you know those are the
37:57
things that we have or I go. Oh, there.
37:59
And I said, listen you when you go there, this is the hotel you
38:02
want. This isn't like, it's all about
38:05
a family. It's just like my clients are my
38:08
family. Mmm, they are, they care.
38:10
They care. What happens in back in my
38:12
country, they text me too. Sometimes they takes me about an
38:16
earthquake in Iran and I'm like, I don't know anything about it,
38:19
let me call my mom. If that's how, that's how
38:22
amazing they are. That's how much they.
38:25
But that means I am amazing to them.
38:28
You, that means I'm doing something.
38:29
That they appreciate me. And as a stylist, you want to
38:32
be. I didn't build this clientele by
38:36
just cutting their hair. I build this clientele but
38:40
conversations by getting knowing their family.
38:43
Their kids coming to me. I have clients, I mean doing
38:47
this for so many years and being in Salon, Bella since 2001,
38:50
people got married and they had kids and the kids aren't called
38:54
and I'm doing their hair. I'm still doing their her and
38:58
that's the beauty of it. It.
38:59
Yes, my hands heard my neck hurts but I can't give up.
39:02
These are my family. I love seeing them, which is
39:05
another thing. Your son got married.
39:07
Yes. So did you do hair and stuff
39:10
like that? Yeah, is a kind of like, oh,
39:14
Bruce is coming. She's got to be the one to do
39:15
the air or yeah, you know, it was interesting.
39:18
Everybody was like, you really want to do their hair was like,
39:20
if I don't do their hair, I will be like, frustrated for rest of
39:24
my life. That I did not, do my son's
39:26
writings hair and actually a couple gals.
39:29
On the salon did go with me to do their hair.
39:32
That's how it is. We grew all grew up together.
39:34
So they're like, we're going with you to do the Bridesmaids
39:37
hair and bright hair and stuff. Yes.
39:40
Absolutely. And so in your, you just
39:43
expanded? Yeah.
39:45
So how many do you have now? He used to be with me.
39:49
Five stylists full-time, stylist.
39:52
And we are all booked and referral by clients and some of
39:56
us are taking clients on that. I just expanded and I Added a
40:00
retail place and it's another three stations, which I did hire
40:06
a couple of people. They are building, they're
40:09
really good at what they do one is Barber.
40:11
And then the other one is actually a stylus that move from
40:15
Canyon City. And she has a salon there but
40:18
she just got married and moved to Denver a Colorado Springs.
40:20
So she's building her clientele and I'm actually the third
40:24
person, I'm actually going to do is someone that I can train
40:28
them, what we know. I try to see we would love that.
40:33
Try to see them getting successful with our knowledge
40:37
and what we do and give it to someone else.
40:40
Well, that's the other cool thing I think is, you know,
40:42
whenever we pay it forward and we realized that when we
40:45
remember where we start and then we know that that's where a lot
40:49
of these people are and how do we get back and how do we help
40:53
them get to that next level? So they can be as successful
40:56
because it's not a competition know and that's the thing.
40:59
Thing is interesting because that's one thing, different.
41:02
My husband has his business that I have my business and he always
41:05
tells me. Why do you tell them your
41:07
secret? And it's like, it's not a secret
41:10
talents. And if I can share it with
41:13
hundred people, I will share it with hundred people that can
41:16
actually do this thing and make more money or make the clients
41:22
happy. Because, what am I going to do
41:24
with this? When I die, I can't take it with
41:27
you because it's a secret. Is Exactly it is for me is so
41:32
joyful just sheet teach somebody, okay?
41:35
When you do a root shadowing or when you do touch up in between
41:39
you can do this. Yes.
41:40
It's from all the knowledge and everything I've done.
41:44
I came up with a little recipes of what to do in between when
41:48
they want to go traveling and they don't want their hair color
41:50
and they just have 10 minutes and do this.
41:52
Yes, those are my recipes but I will love to train somebody else
41:58
to do this kind of recipes. Because it will make them best
42:02
at what they did. You know?
42:03
That was the other thing that I like, you know because when we
42:06
went to Cozumel, you know, when we had thought about going in
42:08
and you said no don't do that. So, you know, it's not about the
42:12
money. No.
42:13
Because it was like, don't do that because you don't want your
42:16
hair to bleed and all of the. So even giving people that
42:20
information because, you know, when you color your hair with
42:22
people if you've not done especially when you do the
42:25
purples and the blues and the greens and all those those
42:28
bleed. Yes.
42:29
So yes, they green sun is like I do and a lot of times, sometimes
42:34
they make a mistake, they make the appointment and they come in
42:37
and, but they're going on this trip of three.
42:41
In the Sun or flee, or Beach, or whatever.
42:45
And I did want this platinum and I tell him, you know what, let's
42:50
not do that. Let's wait.
42:51
Yes, I'm not making that money at that time.
42:53
Yes, I wasted two hours but I rather have that client happy
42:58
because that client didn't know. Right?
43:00
Did you know and I, it was my mistake not to ask I've her at,
43:04
when I was making the employment, or knowing about
43:07
their trick, or last-minute happened.
43:09
And I think that's what's cool is because You know, that's one
43:12
of the things we talked about a lot and I think you know, if
43:14
we're going on a trip or something, we'll talk with you
43:16
and just so you know, Chris has to clear a good chunk of her
43:20
dated wife. Yes.
43:22
Our hair takes forever six hours.
43:30
Yeah, it is. It's a difficult thing and we so
43:32
appreciate it. Yeah.
43:34
Thank you. It's only sharing that's the
43:36
problem child or here. That's what I know.
43:39
That's what we start and end with her.
43:42
Chris is in the metal so far. Oh, stop your seat.
43:45
I'm just gonna go into tab. Press, I want something totally
43:48
different. She goes, you better not even
43:49
teeth. I actually text you guys, do you
43:52
guys want the same thing? You want something different?
43:54
Because I know I have to kind of like, okay, so I need you to
43:58
come in at 6 a.m. now it's moved up in time.
44:06
Before we end here, let's talk a little bit about Iran because I
44:09
know there's a lot of stuff. Hang on there and I know you
44:12
still have family there. How is that all going?
44:15
It's sad. It's very sad.
44:17
It's been happening. Two strikes and protesting has
44:21
been going on over four months. Now, they have killed over
44:26
thousands and thousands of young people.
44:30
Young people men, women kids and the whole thing is about woman,
44:37
freedom and life. That's what it is.
44:40
Actually this woman Freedom, and they're not stopping.
44:45
You know. This revolution has been going
44:47
on for over 40 years, at 43 years, actually, the population
44:53
of Iran 75 % of them are under 35 years old so and social media
44:59
they see so they can understand why they have to live.
45:01
This kind of Life of not being able to be young and enjoy their
45:08
life is sad. That could be another.
45:11
Time we can talk about all this but it is really it's really sad
45:16
but they're not stopping. Hopefully we'll have more better
45:21
results. They don't want the regime
45:23
change and they keep going and keep going and you don't I think
45:28
that's such an important thing is, you know, as women we should
45:33
have the freedoms to be who we want to be in and do what we
45:39
want to do and not be subjected to some rural that's out there,
45:44
that's an arbitrary rule made by somebody who don't understand
45:48
the impact on the individual. You know.
45:50
And I think that that happens, it is so important when you're
45:54
from another country that is Very controlled woman, and man,
46:01
and you're here, and you don't realize how good you have it.
46:07
You don't realize, how you could you have it till compare?
46:11
What's out there? Beautiful educated people out
46:16
there girls want men and they can do anything with that.
46:20
So this town is a status is so wasted is so their talent.
46:26
Everything is so wasted and it's so sad.
46:28
Because Iran is a beautiful country.
46:31
It is, it is very, it's yes. It is in Middle East, but it's
46:35
nothing like Middle East, they don't that believe everything is
46:38
totally different and their strength.
46:42
Everything is very different than what they believed, is what
46:46
you think about Middle East, and that's what they're fighting for
46:49
it. That's why we they used to be
46:51
Kings, it wasn't used to be presidents and, and vice
46:55
president since of We used to be Kings of Iran and, and all that
47:00
changed in a day with allies and promises that it was totally
47:06
wrong. And, and it's sad to say that
47:09
even the own right now, their own military, that Iran's
47:13
military doesn't want to do killing people.
47:15
So what did the government do? They hired assassins from other
47:19
countries. So now they're, they're killing
47:22
and raping. Because it's not their kid.
47:25
It's not purely are people. So that's how sick the
47:30
government is. And this is what we don't see.
47:32
We don't realize how good we have it.
47:34
Yeah and you know so everybody out there, putting out positive
47:39
thoughts and energy towards Iran for their ass for their basic
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freedoms because it's freedoms that we really do have.
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I mean we're still working on more freedom here.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong. We're not where we need to be,
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but at least we're, we can continue to move in that.
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At least you have a voice. Yes.
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Yes, you know. Yes.
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Kids silver. Some people here.
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Some people don't, they don't have a voice.
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You have a voice there, guess what?
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You're either going to be in prison or your dad the next day.
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Yeah, so that's it. That's the beauty of, you know,
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somebody's going to hurt you know.
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Right now that's all they're doing.
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They're just having their voice and their dying, right.
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Is it important for you? Because you know, I mean even
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though you've been here since you were 13 to keep part of that
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culture. Absolutely because yeah.
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Farsi right? I do speak Farsi.
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Yes as my Heritage, I'm never going to give that up, good.
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My beliefs might be a little bit very different than what they
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believe, but my Heritage is the same.
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Even if I'm a US citizen, I still have all the Persian
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Heritage as well. Yeah, I was having percent,
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teach me parsley, just the bad words.
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We won't go there. She'll use them on me, any
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language? Isn't that what you do?
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You know what, they sound so much cooler than any other
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words? It's kind of like the little
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kid. You know you say that you you
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can talk to use all the vocabulary, they don't know
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anything. You know that one customer are
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and that's the only one they here in the whole thing and
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that's the only one they're going to repeat.
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Yeah. You know.
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Karissa I want to thank you so much and I'm Christie does we
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always talk about this and for everybody out there?
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Adding that something as it might seem simple like, getting
49:27
your hair done or whatever, it's part of our identity.
49:30
And when we do those things to embrace our identity and to not
49:35
hide from it to not shy away from it.
49:37
And I think that's what we do so much of the time.
49:39
People say, well, I can't afford it and even if you can't go to
49:43
the purposes of the world, it doesn't mean you can't go by
49:47
that little product. That makes your hair feel a lot
49:49
better or that makeup or whatever it is.
49:52
Or sometimes it's getting out in the The Sun and just letting
49:55
your hairline that way whatever it is.
49:58
You know, we always talk on here about the importance of taking
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those baby steps in order to enhance that life that you have.
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And I agree with you. I think there's Beauty and
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everybody and we spend so much of our time, minimizing that and
50:13
maximizing those things that we perceive as a negative.
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But usually, that comes because somebody else has told us that,
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yes, and that's the thing. Just remember, Be who you are
50:26
and bring that beauty out and it could be easier than you.
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See somebody you want to be that person or that beauty, it's
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beautiful to be who you are. Yeah.
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Oh, what a great way to end. And if you're in the Colorado
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Springs area, please look up Parisa, a Salon Bella and we
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will have that information on our Facebook and on our website.
50:52
So once again, everybody have a really great.
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Week and we will be talking with you soon.
50:58
Thank you so much. Thank you.
50:54
Week and we will be talking with you soon.
50:58
Thank you so much. Thank you.