Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Spotting Financial Exploitation - TPR's In Focus - June 16, 2026
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- 0:21From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus,
- 0:25and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:27On the Exchange today, Amanda Senn,
- 0:30Director of the Alabama Securities Commission,
- 0:33discusses elder abuse in the context
- 0:37of financial exploitation.
- 0:40She shares the red flags to look out for with loved ones.
- 0:49Amanda, welcome back to the Exchange.
- 0:52Thank you, Carolyn.
- 0:53Always glad to be here.
- 0:54This is a special month.
- 0:57It's a special month for the entire world.
- 0:59It is World Elder Abuse Awareness Month.
- 1:02Every year in June, we celebrate our seniors,
- 1:04but we also use it to raise awareness
- 1:07to highlight one of the worst manifestations
- 1:10of ageism and inequality in our society,
- 1:13and that is elder abuse.
- 1:14We have a growing community of baby boomers,
- 1:19so we are facing as a society
- 1:22the largest group of seniors that are coming up,
- 1:25and we see it from a financial standpoint.
- 1:27What are the trends that concern you?
- 1:30Any new technology will bring about brand new scams.
- 1:34If there's something in the headlines of the newspaper,
- 1:37broadcasters will rip it off,
- 1:39but we have seen an explosion
- 1:41in the number of identity theft reports
- 1:43and also new imposter scams.
- 1:46Some of the reports that we've received recently,
- 1:49one of them highlighted a book publisher imposter scam,
- 1:53so we've been contacted by several that have said,
- 1:56we thought we were hiring someone
- 1:58to help publish a memoir or a novel
- 2:01or a non-fictional piece of work,
- 2:03and it turns out that it was an imposter
- 2:05that set themselves up to steal money
- 2:08from a potential author,
- 2:10and we've had many scams recently
- 2:12involving people who are impersonating the government,
- 2:15mainly the Federal Trade Commission.
- 2:17You've advised us in the past
- 2:19that if the call is questionable,
- 2:20just to hang up and call the legitimate phone number.
- 2:25Yes, we have had so many new advancements in technology,
- 2:30and so fraudsters have the capability to execute robocalls
- 2:35at an unprecedented level and magnitude.
- 2:38You'll pick up the phone, and it sounds silent,
- 2:41and you can't hear somebody on the other line.
- 2:43Those oftentimes are fraudsters
- 2:45trying to get you to talk with them,
- 2:48or there's a delay when you pick up the phone.
- 2:50Just hang up the phone.
- 2:52It's most likely a fraudster or a spam call of some type,
- 2:57but if they call you and tell you,
- 2:59hey, you've got a bill due,
- 3:00or they send you a text message,
- 3:03always pick up the phone
- 3:04and call that person requesting the money directly.
- 3:08If it's a traffic violation, call the municipal court.
- 3:11If it's a bill from a medical provider, call them directly
- 3:14because there have been so many scams
- 3:16in the last month of those type things,
- 3:19and people have turned over thousands of dollars
- 3:21because they believed the phone call sounded so real,
- 3:24but there's just a rash of scams,
- 3:26but always pick up and verify independently.
- 3:28On another topic,
- 3:29if people are trying to get their documents organized,
- 3:32what do you advise?
- 3:34There are so many mechanisms
- 3:36to help people plan for aging,
- 3:40but starting that conversation can be incredibly difficult.
- 3:45We have a script that an author,
- 3:47she's a PhD expert in cognitive decline
- 3:51and planning for aging, Dr. Beverly Thorne.
- 3:53She actually came up with it,
- 3:54and there was a panel of experts that reviewed it,
- 3:56and it just gives you a script,
- 3:58and you can literally follow it
- 4:00for how to have those conversations
- 4:01without going in directly and telling somebody,
- 4:05hey, we need to talk about planning for death.
- 4:07Well, that's not something that people want to talk about,
- 4:10but there is a method
- 4:11to have a thoughtful planning session,
- 4:13so we'll have that resource available on our website,
- 4:16but it is a conversation that we encourage people to have
- 4:20because it helps protect you
- 4:22if you should suffer cognitive decline
- 4:24from becoming a victim of fraud and scams
- 4:28or just being victimized by people
- 4:30that you thought you trusted,
- 4:32and also it helps your friends and family
- 4:35should something come up,
- 4:36and it honors your wishes as well.
- 4:38What is some of the terminology
- 4:40you're likely to see on these documents?
- 4:43Yeah, so those are just a few of the legal vehicles
- 4:46to help plan and protect your assets.
- 4:50Trusted contact is one that we like to use
- 4:52in the financial world,
- 4:54and that is just someone that you trust.
- 4:56It doesn't have to be a family member.
- 4:58It can be your lawyer or an accountant,
- 5:00a close friend that will not have access to your accounts.
- 5:04A trusted contact is not someone
- 5:06who has access to your financial accounts
- 5:08or medical information,
- 5:10but it's someone that the financial professional,
- 5:13whether it's a bank or a credit union
- 5:16or a financial planner or a hospital,
- 5:18can contact if they suspect something is wrong,
- 5:21whether you've been exploited or you're in danger,
- 5:25just somebody that they trust
- 5:26that they can call to check on you.
- 5:28In contrast, a joint account holder
- 5:31does have complete access to the account,
- 5:33so if you have a joint account holder,
- 5:35you wanna make sure that person you trust wholeheartedly
- 5:39with their finances,
- 5:40because they can make withdrawals just the same as you can.
- 5:43And a power of attorney gives someone else
- 5:46the authority to access accounts.
- 5:49Power of attorney is useful because you can limit it
- 5:52or you can make it as broad as you need to.
- 5:54So a power of attorney could give you access
- 5:57to all financial accounts and medical information
- 6:00if you serve as a medical proxy or a power of attorney,
- 6:03or you can limit it.
- 6:04You can say, this person will be my attorney
- 6:07for these reasons, if I am incapacitated
- 6:10or only on financial accounts
- 6:13or only as it relates to real estate.
- 6:16So a power of attorney gives you the flexibility
- 6:18to provide that protection under certain circumstances,
- 6:23or you can give them a power of attorney over everything.
- 6:26But carefully consider though,
- 6:28which legal protections that you want to engage
- 6:31and you should always understand the effect
- 6:35that that legal instrument will have on you
- 6:37and the person that is assigned to help you.
- 6:40And where can you get advice on that?
- 6:42They need to call an attorney to go through these.
- 6:44We do advise if you are planning for estate purposes
- 6:49or financial planning in general,
- 6:51we have great financial planners in this state.
- 6:53We have fantastic attorneys as well.
- 6:56So a financial professional can help you with that.
- 6:58An attorney for questions about trusted contacts.
- 7:02We're certainly happy to talk with you
- 7:04at the Alabama Securities Commission,
- 7:06but talk with your medical provider.
- 7:08Sometimes they have specific forms
- 7:11that they can provide you for medical proxy
- 7:14and power of attorney.
- 7:15What are the latest problems you're seeing
- 7:18with financial exploitation of seniors?
- 7:21Because of the advancements in artificial intelligence
- 7:25and the sophistication of these cyber crimes
- 7:28and these cyber criminals,
- 7:30oftentimes the person that will be in a position
- 7:34to detect financial exploitation
- 7:37are the financial institutions themselves.
- 7:40Large or uncharacteristic withdrawals or a pattern.
- 7:44Like if you have routine payments that come out
- 7:46and then all of a sudden you have a several hundred thousand
- 7:49dollar lump sum that comes out.
- 7:51Those are often suspicious transactions.
- 7:54Changes to legal documents or beneficiaries
- 7:57that seem unusual.
- 7:59If someone says, I just took my kids out of my will
- 8:02and I added this new friend of mine,
- 8:04of course that would be very suspicious.
- 8:06Isolation from family members.
- 8:09We've had so many cases that came to us
- 8:11through family members and they said,
- 8:13I just can't get my grandfather on the phone anymore.
- 8:16He has a caretaker and the caretaker's
- 8:18always answering the phone
- 8:20and really strange and unusual circumstances like that
- 8:23where there's isolation.
- 8:24Unpaid bills.
- 8:26If you're helping a family member out
- 8:27and you notice bills sitting around
- 8:29or phone calls from debt collectors.
- 8:32Victims themselves shared with us,
- 8:34they've received pressure to make quick financial decisions.
- 8:37Oftentimes it was the urgency of the need
- 8:40to make that transaction or provide those funds
- 8:43that was the red flag.
- 8:44And of course, if there are payments that are requested
- 8:47to be made in cryptocurrency
- 8:49or you're directed to get a gift card,
- 8:51100% a fraud or scam.
- 8:53So hang up the phone, ignore the text, delete them,
- 8:57contact us if you need more information.
- 8:59On your website, asc.alabama.gov,
- 9:03there is a suggested conversation starter
- 9:07with loved ones about finances.
- 9:10Can you tell me more about that?
- 9:11On the main page, they can click
- 9:14and we'll provide information in a script
- 9:17that will get them started with the conversation.
- 9:19I know it's not one we want to have,
- 9:21but it's absolutely necessary conversation.
- 9:25Amanda, thank you so much for joining us
- 9:27for Elder Abuse Awareness Month.
- 9:30Thanks Carolyn.
- 9:31That was Amanda Senn,
- 9:32Director of the Alabama Securities Commission
- 9:35and more information can be found at the website,
- 9:38asc.alabama.gov.
- 9:41Thanks for joining us today for the Exchange from In Focus,
- 9:45which is a podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:49I'm Carolyn Hutcheson
- 9:50and this is listener supported Troy Public Radio.