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- 0:00Welcome to the Deep Dive. We're the podcast where
- 0:02we take stacks of dense information, really sift
- 0:05through all the noise, and pull out the crucial
- 0:08bits of knowledge, the surprising insights, so
- 0:10you don't have to wade through it all yourself.
- 0:12That's the plan. Today, we're diving into something
- 0:14that affects millions, truly millions of lives
- 0:16every year. But it's still often, well, quite
- 0:20misunderstood. Concussions. We tend to think
- 0:24of them, don't we, as just a bump on the head.
- 0:26But the reality is, it's far more complex than
- 0:29that. Absolutely. I mean, did you know, for instance,
- 0:31that just in the US, somewhere between 1 .6 and
- 0:343 .8 million sports -related concussions get
- 0:37reported each year? It's a staggering figure.
- 0:40And that's just sports. If you look at Ontario,
- 0:42in Canada between 2008 and 2016, over 1 % of
- 0:47the entire population got a formal concussion
- 0:49diagnosis each year. And the key point there
- 0:52is formal diagnosis. Experts are pretty convinced
- 0:55those numbers significantly underestimate how
- 0:57common they actually are. So it's almost like
- 0:59a hidden epidemic of the brain. And it goes way
- 1:02beyond just athletes on a pitch. That's a really
- 1:04crucial point to start with. Because the common
- 1:06idea, you know, the one you see in films or here
- 1:09in general chat, is that most people who get
- 1:11a concussion, they'll just sort of shake it off.
- 1:13Right. Back to normal in a few days. Exactly.
- 1:15Back to baseline within days, maybe a couple
- 1:17of weeks. But. As we'll unpack in this deep dive,
- 1:20that's not the whole story, not by a long shot.
- 1:24A significant number of people, probably far
- 1:26more than we generally realize, go on to experience
- 1:29what we call persisting post -concussion symptoms,
- 1:33or PPCS. And these aren't just minor headaches
- 1:37that linger. We're talking about a profound disruption
- 1:40to someone's life. Symptoms can last for months.
- 1:43sometimes even years, it can fundamentally change
- 1:46how they function, day -to -day, their well -being.
- 1:49It's serious. Okay, so that's our mission for
- 1:52this deep dive, then, to get past those surface
- 1:54-level ideas and really unpack the nuances. How
- 1:57do we, whether we're healthcare professionals,
- 1:59coaches, parents, or just trying to be informed,
- 2:02how do we spot who might be at higher risk for
- 2:04this prolonged recovery? And what does the latest
- 2:06research, the really cutting -edge stuff, tell
- 2:08us about how to manage this condition? Because
- 2:11it is pervasive. Right. So we're going to draw
- 2:12on quite a range of sources, comprehensive medical
- 2:15overviews, some fascinating new scientific studies
- 2:18coming out of Canada, and established sports
- 2:21medicine guidelines. We'll sift through it all.
- 2:23Exactly. The goal for you listening is to get
- 2:27a rapid but really thorough grasp of this, hopefully
- 2:30spark some aha moments, and move past the common
- 2:33assumptions to a genuinely well -informed view
- 2:36on concussions and this whole post -concussion
- 2:39syndrome picture. Okay, so precisely. It's not
- 2:42typically a structural injury you can see on
- 2:44a CT or MRI. It's about how the brain is working.
- 2:47And importantly, it's a specific type of mild
- 2:51traumatic brain injury. or MTBI. Ah, okay. So
- 2:55people use those terms interchangeably, MTBI
- 2:58and concussion, but they're not quite the same.
- 3:01Not technically, no. A concussion is really the
- 3:03subset of MTBI. MTBI is the broader category,
- 3:07which might include injuries with more structural
- 3:09changes. A concussion, by definition, implies
- 3:12this temporary functional disruption. Got it.
- 3:14And the symptoms can vary quite a lot, can't
- 3:16they? Hugely. From things that are very subtle,
- 3:19maybe just feeling a bit off or foggy, to more
- 3:22obvious periods of confusion or even brief laws
- 3:24of consciousness, there's a whole spectrum. And
- 3:26that timeline you mentioned earlier about how
- 3:28long symptoms last, that seems absolutely critical
- 3:30here. It really is. It helps us categorize things.
- 3:33So we often talk about an acute concussion if
- 3:36the symptoms resolve fairly quickly. Which is
- 3:38typically how long? Generally within about 14
- 3:40days, two weeks or so. But when those symptoms
- 3:43stubbornly stick around for 90 days or more,
- 3:46three months, That's when we start talking about
- 3:48prolonged post -concussion symptoms, or PPCS.
- 3:5190 days. That's the benchmark. It's a common
- 3:54one? Yes. Although, it's worth noting, you sometimes
- 3:57see slightly different timelines in the literature,
- 4:00particularly for sports concussions, where persistent
- 4:03symptoms might be defined as lasting longer than
- 4:05four weeks. Right. But that distinction between
- 4:07acute and prolonged, that's really important,
- 4:10isn't it, for how you manage it? Absolutely vital.
- 4:12Because the approach to care, the kind of resources
- 4:15someone needs, their likely prognosis, it all
- 4:18shifts quite dramatically once symptoms go beyond
- 4:21that initial acute phase. And managing this,
- 4:24especially the prolonged cases, it's not a one
- 4:26-person job, is it? Definitely not. Effective
- 4:29concussion care, particularly for PPCS, is inherently
- 4:32interprofessional. It really does take a village.
- 4:35Who's typically involved? Oh, a whole range.
- 4:37Physicians, of course, but also physiotherapists,
- 4:39neuropsychologists are key, occupational therapists,
- 4:43sometimes speech and language therapists, social
- 4:46workers. It's a team effort because the concussion
- 4:49can impact so many different parts of a person's
- 4:51life, physical, cognitive, emotional, social.
- 4:54Okay, that makes sense. So you mentioned some
- 4:57surprising research. Yes, this is where it gets
- 4:59really interesting. As we unpack some of the
- 5:01latest findings, especially from a big observational
- 5:04study done right here in Ontario, you might find
- 5:06some of the results, well, quite counterintuitive
- 5:09actually. How so? Well, we're going to challenge
- 5:12some perhaps deeply held assumptions about who's
- 5:15most at risk for that prolonged recovery. For
- 5:18instance, some factors that we've traditionally
- 5:20thought were strong predictors for persistent
- 5:22symptoms. Right. They might not hold up quite
- 5:25as strongly when you directly compare people
- 5:27with acute symptoms versus those with prolonged
- 5:30ones. Really? And conversely, other factors,
- 5:33maybe things that haven't been discussed as much,
- 5:35seem to emerge as surprisingly significant. It
- 5:38could really shift our understanding of who's
- 5:40vulnerable and why. Okay, I'm intrigued now,
- 5:43so we'll get into the nuts and bolts of that
- 5:45study. We will. We'll explore the... the underlying
- 5:48path of physiology to what's actually happening
- 5:50in the brain. The metabolic changes, the structural
- 5:52shifts at a cellular level after the injury,
- 5:55and how knowing that is guiding new approaches.
- 5:58And then the practical side, evaluation diagnosis.
- 6:01Exactly. How do we effectively evaluate and diagnose
- 6:04concussion? What does a structured evidence -based
- 6:07recovery plan look like? including that crucial
- 6:10graduated return to play protocol that's so vital
- 6:13for athletes, but the principles apply more broadly
- 6:16too. Okay, brilliant. It sounds like this conversation
- 6:18might genuinely shift how we think about brain
- 6:21injury and recovery. Let's dive in. Tell us about
- 6:24this Ontario study. Right, so this study is titled,
- 6:27Characterizing the Profiles of Patients with
- 6:29Acute Concussion vs. Prolonged Post -Concussion
- 6:31Symptoms. It was an observational study done
- 6:33across multiple sites. Part of a bigger project?
- 6:35Yes, part of a larger initiative called Connecting.
- 6:38And they collected really rich, patient -reported
- 6:41data from seven different concussion clinics
- 6:44right across Ontario. And what's powerful about
- 6:47that multi -site approach? It gives great diversity.
- 6:50They included clinics that focused on sports,
- 6:52others on acute care, and some tertiary care
- 6:55centers. So it wasn't just looking at, say, elite
- 6:58athletes or people only in central Toronto. Ah,
- 7:02so a real mix. Geographically diverse, too. Exactly.
- 7:06That geographical and functional mix is a real
- 7:08strength. It gives us a much broader, more generalizable
- 7:12picture of concussion in the real world, not
- 7:15just in specific pockets, a much more comprehensive
- 7:18view of who's getting concussions across different
- 7:20settings. Makes sense. And how did they gather
- 7:22the information? They were very thorough. They
- 7:24collected a standardized set of data points from
- 7:27everyone, usually at their first clinic visit
- 7:29or within about two weeks of it. And who was
- 7:31included? patients age 16 or older who had a
- 7:34clinical diagnosis of concussion that lined up
- 7:37with the Berlin Consensus Statement from 2017
- 7:39is basically the gold standard internationally
- 7:41for a diagnosis. And they had to be able to give
- 7:44informed consent, obviously. Were there people
- 7:46they specifically excluded? Yes. And that's important
- 7:48for understanding the focus. They wanted to look
- 7:51specifically at what we'd clinically call a concussion.
- 7:55So. Anyone with abnormalities on CT or MRI scans,
- 7:59anyone needing neurosurgery, or those with really
- 8:01complex multiple injuries were out. Okay. Also
- 8:04excluded were people with significant pre -existing
- 8:07neurological or developmental issues, or if the
- 8:11concussion -like symptoms were triggered by something
- 8:13non -traumatic like a seizure or a migraine.
- 8:16So they really narrowed it down to isolated,
- 8:19traumatically induced concussions. Precisely.
- 8:22That rigorous approach meant they could get clearer
- 8:24insights into the recovery pathways specifically
- 8:26for concussion without result being confounded
- 8:29by more severe injuries or other conditions.
- 8:31And then they split these participants into groups
- 8:33for comparison. Yes, very cleverly for this analysis.
- 8:37They created two distinct groups. First, the
- 8:39acute concussion group people whose symptoms
- 8:41had been around for 14 days or less. Okay, a
- 8:43quick resolvers. Exactly. And second, the prolonged
- 8:46post -concussion symptoms group, the PPCS group,
- 8:49where symptoms had persisted for 90 days or more.
- 8:52That three -month mark again? Right. And importantly,
- 8:55to really sharpen the difference between those
- 8:56two ends of the spectrum, they deliberately excluded
- 8:59patients who were in the middle. The subacute
- 9:01phase? Yes, those with symptoms between 15 and
- 9:0489 days. Taking them out created a very clear
- 9:08contrast between rapid resolution and genuinely
- 9:11prolonged problems. It allowed for a much more
- 9:14focused comparison. Right, that makes methodological
- 9:16sense. What sort of data did they actually collect
- 9:19on these people? It sounds like a lot. It was
- 9:21incredibly comprehensive. They went way beyond
- 9:24just basic demographics like sex and age. They
- 9:26looked at marital status, education level, geographic
- 9:29region where people lived, ethnicity, even annual
- 9:32household income. So, a rich socioeconomic picture.
- 9:36And injury details. Absolutely. Not just when
- 9:38the injury happened, but how the mechanism of
- 9:41injury. Now, obviously, how many days have passed
- 9:42since the injury when they were assessed. What
- 9:44about their medical background? A deep dive there,
- 9:47too. Any prior concussions, other medical conditions
- 9:50happening at the same time, vascular risk factors,
- 9:53history of chronic pain, any developmental disorders.
- 9:57And critically, they gather detailed information
- 10:00on any history of mental health disorders and
- 10:02any pre -existing problems with headaches or
- 10:05migraines. Those are often cited as risk factors,
- 10:07aren't they? They are indeed. They also looked
- 10:10at healthcare use, how often people had been
- 10:12to A &E, their GP, or seen rehabilitation specialists.
- 10:16It was a truly holistic data set, capturing a
- 10:19huge range of potential influences. And they
- 10:21used standardized tools for assessing symptoms,
- 10:24I assume, to keep things consistent? Yes, absolutely.
- 10:27They used established measures, for instance,
- 10:29the Sketney 5, the sport concussion assessment
- 10:32tool. I've heard of that one. It's widely used.
- 10:34It helps assess 22 common concussion symptoms
- 10:36across different areas, physical, cognitive,
- 10:39emotional fatigue. So things like headache, dizziness,
- 10:43feeling foggy, irritability. Exactly, those kinds
- 10:45of things. They also used the Sheehan Disability
- 10:47Scale. What does that measure? That's a really
- 10:49useful tool because it gets at the patient's
- 10:52perception of their disability, how much the
- 10:54symptoms are actually impacting their life, looking
- 10:56at things like days lost from work or school,
- 10:59and also days underproductive, where they might
- 11:02be physically present, but just not functioning
- 11:05at their usual capacity. Ah, OK. So it gives
- 11:07quantifiable measures for what can feel like
- 11:10a very subjective experience for the patient.
- 11:12Precisely. These tools provide objective data
- 11:15points. So this brings us to the study's main
- 11:18goal and where you said the surprising findings
- 11:20came in. Yes, this is where it really challenges
- 11:22some common assumptions. The researchers initially
- 11:25wanted to see if patients in the acute group
- 11:28and the PPCS group differed significantly on
- 11:31four specific factors, often flagged as key risk
- 11:34predictors for prolonged symptoms. Which were?
- 11:36Sex, having a history of mental health disorders,
- 11:39having a history of headaches or migraines, and
- 11:41having had previous concussions. OK, those are
- 11:43the ones you often hear about. Exactly. And the
- 11:46prevailing wisdom, the sort of statistic often
- 11:48quoted, is that maybe only 10 % to 20 % of acute
- 11:52concussions go on to become persistent. Right.
- 11:55So based on that, you'd logically predict that
- 11:58these known risk factors, mental health issues,
- 12:01migraines, maybe being female, previous concussions
- 12:04would be much more common in the PPCS group.
- 12:06They should stand out as clear warning signs.
- 12:08That makes sense. So what did they actually find?
- 12:11Did those factors show up more in the prolonged
- 12:13group? Well, this is the kicker. Quite remarkably,
- 12:16And actually, contrary to what many would expect,
- 12:19and indeed, contrary to the study's own initial
- 12:21hypothesis, they found no statistically significant
- 12:24differences between the acute group and the PPCS
- 12:27group for history of mental health disorders,
- 12:30pre -existing headache, or migraine history,
- 12:32or sex. No difference at all. No statistically
- 12:35significant difference. Let me give you the numbers.
- 12:36They're quite striking. In the acute group, 37
- 12:39.3 % had a history of mental health disorders.
- 12:41In the PPCS group, 37 .9%. Virtually identical.
- 12:45Wow. And for sex. The acute group was 61 .1 %
- 12:49female. The PPCS group was 66 .3 % female. Again,
- 12:54when you analyze the statistics across the whole
- 12:55large group, that difference wasn't significant.
- 12:58That really is eye -opening, because it seems
- 13:00to fly in the face of that idea that these factors
- 13:03single out the 10 -20 % who will struggle long
- 13:06term. It does. It strongly implies that the baseline
- 13:09vulnerability may be linked to these factors,
- 13:12might be much more similar across everyone who
- 13:15sustains a concussion rather than just predisposing
- 13:17a small minority to poor outcomes. So what does
- 13:20that mean practically for a doctor seeing a patient
- 13:24or a coach? It means you can't just look at someone,
- 13:27see they don't have a history of anxiety or migraines,
- 13:30and assume they're automatically low risk for
- 13:33prolonged symptoms. It suggests we need to perhaps
- 13:36focus more on the injury itself, the immediate
- 13:39symptoms, rather than relying too heavily on
- 13:42these pre -existing conditions as definite predictors
- 13:45of a long recovery versus a short one. Okay.
- 13:47What about previous concussions? That's almost
- 13:49always mentioned as a big risk factor. That also
- 13:51showed no significant difference between the
- 13:52two groups in this study. Really? Why might that
- 13:54be? Well, the study offers a thoughtful explanation.
- 13:58A history of concussions is a known risk factor,
- 14:01yes, but it's a risk factor not just for developing
- 14:05persistent symptoms after a new injury, but also
- 14:07for sustaining another concussion in the first
- 14:09place. Ah, I see. So... People in both groups
- 14:13might be equally likely to have had prior concussions
- 14:15just by virtue of having had a concussion now.
- 14:18Exactly. It might be a characteristic shared
- 14:20by many people who seek care for concussion,
- 14:23whether their current symptoms resolve quickly
- 14:25or not. It highlights how tricky it is to interpret
- 14:27risk factors. Are they predicting future problems
- 14:30or just describing the population already affected?
- 14:33It's about the nuance of how these factors operate
- 14:35over time. Okay, so if those factors, mental
- 14:38health, migraine, sex, prior concussions, weren't
- 14:41the clear dividing lines between the acute and
- 14:43prolonged groups, what did stand out? What did
- 14:47differentiate them? This must be where the study's
- 14:49secondary aim comes in. Precisely. When they
- 14:52look at the broader demographic and injury profiles,
- 14:55some clear and potentially actionable differences
- 14:57did emerge. Like what? Age was a big one. The
- 15:00PPCS group was significantly older, on average,
- 15:04than the acute concussion group. Much older.
- 15:06The average age for the acute group was 32. For
- 15:09the PPCS group, it jumped quite substantially
- 15:11to 44. 12 years difference on average. Yes. And
- 15:15when they looked at age categories, the odds
- 15:17of being in an older age group, particularly
- 15:1940, 49, 50, 59, and especially 60 plus, were
- 15:23significantly higher for people with PPCS compared
- 15:26to those aged 29 or younger. How much higher?
- 15:29Dramatically higher for the oldest group. The
- 15:31odds of someone age 60 or over being in the PPCS
- 15:35group were over nine and a half times higher
- 15:37than for someone under 30. Nine and a half times,
- 15:40that's huge. So middle and older age really seems
- 15:43to be a significant factor for prolonged symptoms.
- 15:46This study strongly suggests so, yes. It challenges
- 15:48older ideas that maybe age wasn't such a major
- 15:51factor. Why might older age lead to slower or
- 15:54less complete recovery? Is it biological? Well,
- 15:57one common theory revolves around something called
- 15:59cognitive reserve. Like the brain's backup capacity.
- 16:02Sort of, yes. Think of it as your brain's ability
- 16:05to cope with damage or stress. Maybe it's efficiency
- 16:08or flexibility. As we age, that reserve might
- 16:12naturally decrease a bit. So the brain just have
- 16:15less capacity to compensate for an injury and
- 16:18recover as efficiently as a younger brain might.
- 16:20So it's less resilient to the disruption. Potentially,
- 16:23yes. While not all previous studies have found
- 16:26such a strong link, this large real -world comparison
- 16:29in Ontario really points to age, especially being
- 16:3340 or older, as significantly impacting how recovery
- 16:36unfolds. It also makes you think about how age
- 16:38interacts with other things, like education level,
- 16:41which might influence your cognitive baseline
- 16:43before the injury even happens. Okay, so age
- 16:45is a major differentiator. What else stood out?
- 16:48The way the injury happened, the mechanism of
- 16:50injury, that was another critical finding. How
- 16:52so? Transportation -related incidents, so car
- 16:54crashes, bike accidents, motorcycle collisions,
- 16:57were significantly more common in the PPCS group.
- 17:00Very much so. The odds of having had a transportation
- 17:03-related injury were four and a half times higher
- 17:05in the PPCS group compared to the acute group
- 17:08when you compare them against injuries caused
- 17:10by falls or falling objects. Four and a half
- 17:13times. Again, that's a massive difference. Why
- 17:16would being in a crash make prolonged symptoms
- 17:18so much more likely? Is it just the force involved?
- 17:21That's likely part of it, certainly. The forces
- 17:24in those types of collisions can be greater and
- 17:26more complex. Think about the rapid acceleration
- 17:29and deceleration. That can lead to more widespread
- 17:32sort of shearing forces within the brain tissue.
- 17:34But is it only physical? Probably not entirely.
- 17:38There's also the significant psychological stress
- 17:40and emotional trauma that often comes with being
- 17:43in a serious accident. Post -traumatic stress.
- 17:45Exactly. We know there's a considerable overlap
- 17:47between symptoms of PTSD and persistent concussion
- 17:50symptoms. And then there's another layer. That's
- 17:52right. Litigation. Involvement in insurance claims
- 17:56or legal proceedings, which is pretty common
- 17:58after road traffic accidents, has also been consistently
- 18:01linked with persistent symptoms. Ah, so it's
- 18:04a complex mix, the physical injury, the psychological
- 18:08impact, maybe even the stress of legal battles.
- 18:11Precisely. It creates this really complicated
- 18:13interplay that can definitely hinder and prolong
- 18:16the recovery process. It's not just a bang on
- 18:18the head, it's an event. with potentially wide
- 18:21-ranging consequences. That makes a lot of sense.
- 18:24Okay, so we have age and mechanism of injury
- 18:26as clear differentiators. You mentioned geography
- 18:30earlier, did where people lived show any differences?
- 18:33Yes, and this pointed towards potential issues
- 18:35around access to care. The geographic data showed
- 18:38that patients in the PPCS group were significantly
- 18:41more likely to live outside of metropolitan Toronto.
- 18:44Really? In the surrounding region? Yes. The odds
- 18:46of living in central Ontario, southwestern Ontario,
- 18:49or other more rural or semi -urban areas were
- 18:52significantly higher, around four to four and
- 18:54a half times higher, for patients with PPCS compared
- 18:57to those living right in Toronto. That's fascinating.
- 19:00What might that be telling us? Is care better
- 19:02in Toronto, or is something else going on? Well,
- 19:04it raises really important questions about equitable
- 19:06access to specialized concussion care. It's possible
- 19:10that while Toronto, being densely populated,
- 19:13might have long waiting lists for specialist
- 19:15care. One study mentioned an average wait of
- 19:1810 months for tertiary MTBI care there. Ten months.
- 19:21Wow. Conversely, it could also mean that patients
- 19:24outside the major city center just have fewer
- 19:26options nearby, fewer specialist clinics, less
- 19:30access to that interprofessional expertise needed
- 19:32for complex cases. So if they can't get the right
- 19:34help quickly enough, the symptoms might just
- 19:37drag on. That's a plausible hypothesis. A lack
- 19:40of timely, appropriate intervention closer to
- 19:43home could contribute to symptoms becoming prolonged.
- 19:46It really highlights a potential systemic issue.
- 19:49How does location affect concussion care? We
- 19:51need to look deeper into resource allocation
- 19:53across different regions. Okay, that's a really
- 19:55important system level point. Now, what about
- 19:57the symptoms themselves? The study used the SCAT
- 19:59T5. Did the PPCS group just have symptoms for
- 20:02longer, or were the symptoms themselves different
- 20:05or more severe? They were definitely more severe.
- 20:07While both groups obviously had symptoms, the
- 20:11PPCS group consistently reported significantly
- 20:14higher perceived symptom severity across all
- 20:17the SCET T5 domains. The fatigue, emotional,
- 20:21cognitive, and somatic physical symptoms. So
- 20:23more intense symptoms across the board. Yes.
- 20:26For example, fatigue symptoms were much more
- 20:28prevalent in the PPCS group. And fatigue often
- 20:31goes hand in hand with emotional symptoms and
- 20:34sleep problems after concussion. And emotional
- 20:36symptoms like anxiety or irritability. Those
- 20:39also tend to increase months after the injury
- 20:41in people with prolonged issues, which aligns
- 20:44with what this study found. It suggests a much
- 20:46more pervasive and debilitating cluster of symptoms
- 20:49in those who don't recover quickly. What about
- 20:51the cognitive ones that brain fog people describe,
- 20:53the trouble concentrating or remembering? Again,
- 20:56consistent with other research. While cognitive
- 20:58problems often get better relatively quickly
- 21:01in acute cases, maybe within days, they can unfortunately
- 21:04persist for years and people with PPCS. That
- 21:06must have a huge impact on daily life, work,
- 21:09study. Absolutely massive. And similarly, those
- 21:13physical or somatic symptoms like chronic headaches,
- 21:16persistent dizziness, that awful sensitivity
- 21:19to light or noise, they were also significantly
- 21:23more common and severe in the PPCS group. Are
- 21:26any particular symptoms early on seen as predictors?
- 21:29Yes. Reporting a high number of somatic symptoms,
- 21:32especially headaches, right in the acute phase
- 21:34after the injury is often considered one of the
- 21:37better predictors that symptoms might persist
- 21:39for longer. It shows how all these different
- 21:41symptom types, physical, emotional, cognitive,
- 21:44can weave together into this complex challenge
- 21:46for patients. Makes it really hard to treat sometimes.
- 21:49It really sounds like getting the right evaluation
- 21:51and management right from the start could make
- 21:53a big difference. Can we talk a bit about the
- 21:56overall approach to assessing and managing concussions?
- 21:58What are the key steps, whether it's an athlete
- 22:00or someone from that car accident? Yes, absolutely.
- 22:03The foundation, the absolute cornerstone, is
- 22:05a thorough history and physical examination.
- 22:07What does that involve? You need every detail
- 22:10about the injury, how it happened, the forces
- 22:12involved, was there any loss of consciousness,
- 22:15however brief, and critically, any previous injuries.
- 22:18Then, a detailed past medical history is vital.
- 22:22Checking for those potential influencing factors.
- 22:25Exactly. Previous headaches, migraines, any history
- 22:28of depression, anxiety, chronic pain, dizziness.
- 22:31These can all shape the recovery path, even if,
- 22:34as the Ontario study showed, they didn't perfectly
- 22:37distinguish the acute from the prolonged group
- 22:39in that comparison. And the physical exam. A
- 22:42full neurological assessment, checking cranial
- 22:44nerves, vision, reflexes, muscle strength, proprioception.
- 22:48That's your sense of where your body parts are
- 22:50and sensation. It's about building that complete
- 22:52clinical picture. For athletes, there's often
- 22:54that immediate sideline check. What's crucial
- 22:57there? That immediate sideline evaluation is
- 22:59critical in sport. First priority is the primary
- 23:01survey checking, airway, breathing, circulation,
- 23:04the absolute basics. And crucially, looking for
- 23:06any sign, any sign of a spinal cord injury. Neck
- 23:09pain, altered sensation. Yes. If an athlete's
- 23:13mental state is off or they complain of neck
- 23:15pain, you must assume a cervical spine injury
- 23:18until it's proven otherwise. Safety first. Are
- 23:21there immediate red flags that mean straight
- 23:23to hospital? Definitely. Things like a deteriorating
- 23:26level of consciousness, a really severe headache
- 23:28that keeps getting worse, any new focal neurological
- 23:32deficits like weakness on one side, those warrant
- 23:36immediate emergency transport for urgent brain
- 23:38imaging. And assuming none of those red flags,
- 23:41what happens next on the sideline? Then you move
- 23:43to the secondary survey, focusing specifically
- 23:46on cognitive function and those classic concussion
- 23:49symptoms. The absolute rule here, the non -negotiable,
- 23:52is that any athlete showing any signs or symptoms
- 23:55suggestive of a concussion must be removed from
- 23:57play immediately. No finishing the half. Absolutely
- 24:00not. No return to play on the same day, full
- 24:02stop. Their health is paramount. Far more important
- 24:05than the game. And that's where tools like the
- 24:07Scatty 5 come in useful again. Precisely. The
- 24:09Scatty 5 is designed for that situation. It's
- 24:12standardized, widely used for athletes age 13,
- 24:15and up there's a child Scat 5 for younger ones
- 24:17too. What does it involve? It has components
- 24:19for immediate on -field assessment, looking for
- 24:21visible signs, asking quick memory questions
- 24:24like the Maddox questions, using the Glasgow
- 24:26Coma Scale for consciousness level. And then
- 24:28off the field? Yes. Ideally in a quiet, private
- 24:32space. There's the standard assessment of concussion,
- 24:35the SAC, test checking orientation, memory, concentration.
- 24:39There's also the BSS test, the balance error
- 24:42scoring system to objectively measure balance,
- 24:44which is often affected. Are there other tools
- 24:47used? Yes, things like the impact test. which
- 24:50is computer -based. It looks at verbal and visual
- 24:52memory, processing speed, reaction time. Often
- 24:55you compare the athletes' post -injury scores
- 24:57to their own baseline scores taken before the
- 25:00season started. Ah, having that baseline is helpful.
- 25:03Very. And the King -Devick test is another one,
- 25:05looking at eye movements and concentration by
- 25:08having the athlete read numbers quickly. These
- 25:10tools give objective data to help the clinician
- 25:12make informed decisions. So lots of assessment
- 25:14tools. What about brain scans, CTs, MRIs? You
- 25:18said earlier they don't diagnose concussion itself,
- 25:20but when are they needed? That's a really common
- 25:22point of confusion. Yeah. You're right. Generally,
- 25:24advanced imaging like CT or MRI is not needed
- 25:28to diagnose a concussion. Remember, it's primarily
- 25:31functional. Most scans will be normal. Okay.
- 25:33But imaging is absolutely essential in acute
- 25:37head trauma if those red flags we mentioned pop
- 25:39up. deteriorating status of your headache, focal
- 25:42signs? Exactly, or a suspicion of a neck injury.
- 25:46In an emergency setting, a CT scan is usually
- 25:48the first choice. It's quick and good for ruling
- 25:51out skull fractures, bleeding inside the head,
- 25:54intracranial hemorrhage, or brain bruises, contusions.
- 25:57And MRI, when would that be used? MRI gives much
- 26:00more detailed pictures of the brain tissue itself.
- 26:02It can pick up more subtle structural damage.
- 26:05Specialized sequences like diffusion -weighted
- 26:07imaging are particularly sensitive to the shearing
- 26:09injuries we talked about. Can it show functional
- 26:11changes, too? Functional MRI, or fMRI, can actually
- 26:15show changes in blood flow patterns in the brain,
- 26:18that cerebrovascular reactivity, especially in
- 26:20the acute phase. And if symptoms are really dragging
- 26:24on, say for more than a month, an MRI might be
- 26:26done later to make sure there isn't some other
- 26:28underlying neurological issue mimicking the concussion
- 26:31symptoms. Okay, so imaging has a role, but it's
- 26:34more about ruling out other serious problems,
- 26:37not diagnosing the concussion itself. Precisely.
- 26:40Diagnosis is primarily clinical, based on the
- 26:43history and examination. Right. Let's talk about
- 26:45treatment, then. The old advice used to be just
- 26:48rest, dark room, do nothing. Has that changed?
- 26:50Oh, massively. Our understanding has really evolved.
- 26:53The initial step is still immediate removal from
- 26:56whatever activity caused the injury or makes
- 26:58symptoms worse. And definitely no same -day return
- 27:01to play or demanding activity. But not weeks
- 27:04of bed rest. No, absolutely not. For acute concussions,
- 27:07the current recommendation is actually a very
- 27:09brief period of relative cognitive and physical
- 27:11rest, typically just 24 to 48 hours. Just one
- 27:14or two days. Yes. This is not strict bed rest
- 27:17in a dark room. We now know that prolonged complete
- 27:21rest can actually be detrimental. It can lead
- 27:24to worse outcomes, more anxiety, depression,
- 27:27and even prolonged physical symptoms. So what
- 27:30does relative rest mean then? It means minimizing
- 27:33activities that actively provoke or worsen symptoms.
- 27:37So maybe reducing screen time, avoiding noisy
- 27:40environments, not doing strenuous physical exercise
- 27:43right at the start, just taking it easy initially.
- 27:45And then what? Then, that short period of initial
- 27:48symptom limited rest should be followed quite
- 27:50quickly by starting a carefully structured and
- 27:52supervised graduated return to activity protocol.
- 27:56This is fundamental to good recovery. Ah, yes,
- 27:58the graduated return to play protocol. That sounds
- 28:00key, especially for athletes, but you said the
- 28:03principles apply more broadly. They do. It's
- 28:05relevant for students returning to school, people
- 28:07returning to demanding jobs. It's a structured
- 28:10step -by -step approach to systematically reintroduce
- 28:13physical and cognitive challenges. How does it
- 28:15work? How gradual is it? Typically, each stage
- 28:18lasts at least 24 hours. So assuming someone
- 28:21stays symptom -free at each step, it usually
- 28:22takes about a week to get through the whole protocol
- 28:24and be cleared for full return to sport. A week
- 28:27minimum. And why is that stepwise approach so
- 28:30important? It's vital because it allows the brain
- 28:32time to adapt and heal while gradually increasing
- 28:35the demands placed upon it. It helps prevent
- 28:38symptoms flaring up badly and reduces the risk
- 28:41of getting re -injured by doing too much too
- 28:43soon. Can you walk us through the stages? Sure.
- 28:46It usually goes something like this. Stage one
- 28:48is symptom limited activity. basically daily
- 28:51activities that don't provoke symptoms. The aim
- 28:53is rest from demanding tasks, less screen time,
- 28:57quiet environments, maybe life's cool or work
- 28:59activities if tolerated. Okay, taking it easy.
- 29:02Stage two is light aerobic exercise. Once they're
- 29:05symptom -free at rest, they can start things
- 29:06like walking, swimming, gentle stationary cycling,
- 29:09keeping the heart rate fairly low, say below
- 29:1170 % of maximum, no resistance training yet.
- 29:15The goal is just to increase heart rate gently
- 29:17without symptoms. This actually helps brain blood
- 29:19flow and recovery. Right, so activity isn't bad
- 29:22if it's the right kind. Exactly. Stage three
- 29:25is sport -specific exercise. More dynamic movements
- 29:28now, like running drills, skating for hockey
- 29:31players, throwing. Still no head impact activities
- 29:34though, adding movement and agility back in.
- 29:37Getting closer to the sport. Stage four is non
- 29:39-contact training drills. More complex training
- 29:42here. passing drills, team plays, starting some
- 29:45progressive resistance training perhaps, building
- 29:48exercise tolerance, coordination, cognitive load
- 29:51of practice, but still no contact. Crucially,
- 29:54no contact yet. Stage five is full contact practice.
- 29:58This is the big step before competition. Returning
- 30:01to normal training, including contact drills
- 30:04appropriate for the sport, all done in a controlled
- 30:06practice setting. It's about restoring confidence
- 30:08and checking skills under pressure. Stage 6 is
- 30:12full return to play. If and only if the individual
- 30:15is completely symptom -free through all those
- 30:17stages and gets clearance from a healthcare professional,
- 30:20then they can return to normal games or competition.
- 30:22And what if symptoms come back during one of
- 30:24the stages? That's the key rule. If symptoms
- 30:27return at any stage, you drop back to the last
- 30:29stage where you were completely symptom -free,
- 30:32rest for another 24 hours, and then try progressing
- 30:35again. So listen to your body. Don't push through
- 30:37symptoms. Absolutely. This patient systematic
- 30:40approach is what really minimizes the risk of
- 30:44prolonged problems or getting hurt again. That's
- 30:46a really clear framework. What about people whose
- 30:49symptoms do persist beyond that acute phase?
- 30:52Someone in the PPCS group, for instance. Are
- 30:54there more specific therapies beyond just gradual
- 30:57activity? Yes, definitely. When symptoms persist,
- 31:00the approach needs to become much more targeted.
- 31:02And that interprofessional team really comes
- 31:04into play. What kind of targeted therapies? Well,
- 31:07medications might be considered for specific
- 31:09symptoms. For persistent headaches, maybe low
- 31:11-dose amitriptyline, which works on nerve pain,
- 31:14or something like sopranolol, if migraines are
- 31:16a feature. And for the dizziness or visual problems
- 31:18people often get. Those are incredibly common
- 31:21and disabling. There are specific screening tools
- 31:23to pinpoint the cause. Is it the inner ear, the
- 31:26stabler system, eye movements, ocular motor,
- 31:30or maybe neck issues contributing? And based
- 31:32on that, based on the findings, you get active
- 31:34therapies, things like cervical physiotherapy
- 31:37for neck pain and stiffness, specific vision
- 31:40therapy exercises prescribed by an optometrist
- 31:43or therapist to retrain eye tracking, focusing
- 31:46and coordination, or vestibular rehabilitation
- 31:49exercises from a physio to help with balance
- 31:51and dizziness. These are active treatments, specific
- 31:54exercises, not just passive waiting. Is there
- 31:57any way to objectively know when someone's brain
- 32:01is ready for more vigorous exercise, especially
- 32:03if they've been struggling with symptom flare
- 32:05-ups? Yes. There's a useful tool called the Buffalo
- 32:08Concussion Treadmill Test. How does that work?
- 32:10It's a graded exercise test, usually on a treadmill,
- 32:13that helps determine the heart rate at which
- 32:15symptoms start to appear or worsen. It helps
- 32:18figure out a safe threshold for aerobic exercise.
- 32:20So you find their symptom threshold. Exactly.
- 32:22Then you can prescribe exercise just below that
- 32:25threshold. The goal is to gradually increase
- 32:28their exercise tolerance over time. Once a patient
- 32:31can exercise for about 20 minutes at a target
- 32:33heart rate, symptom free, for a few days in a
- 32:35row, they're generally considered physiologically
- 32:38recovered enough to handle more activity. Does
- 32:40that mean they're ready to play sport again?
- 32:42Not necessarily full contact sport. Physiological
- 32:45recovery doesn't always perfectly align with
- 32:47being ready for the cognitive demands and physical
- 32:50risks of competition. But... It's a key milestone.
- 32:54It allows them to get the benefits of safe aerobic
- 32:56exercise, which we know aids overall recovery.
- 32:59Okay. So pulling this all together beyond the
- 33:02specific exercises or medications, what's the
- 33:05big picture of you on managing concussion, especially
- 33:08when symptoms linger and really disrupt someone's
- 33:11life? The big picture, the absolute necessity,
- 33:14is that interprofessional team approach we mentioned
- 33:16earlier. It's not just helpful, it's essential
- 33:18for truly comprehensive holistic management.
- 33:21Remind us who's on that team again. It can be
- 33:23a wide range, depending on the patient's needs.
- 33:26Neurologists, neuropsychologists, physiotherapists,
- 33:29occupational therapists, speech and language
- 33:32pathologists, sometimes social workers, psychologists
- 33:34or psychiatrists, if mental health is a factor.
- 33:37They all need to work together. Why is that collaboration
- 33:40so crucial? Because it ensures all the different
- 33:43aspects of the person's recovery. The physical
- 33:46symptoms, the cognitive difficulties, the emotional
- 33:49impact, the social challenges, returning to work
- 33:52or school are all addressed at the same time
- 33:55in a coordinated way. The STATPRL source we looked
- 33:58at really emphasized how much populations like
- 34:01veterans and athletes benefit from this kind
- 34:03of integrated care. Are there specific programs
- 34:06that use this integrated approach? Yes, there
- 34:08are. For instance, studies have shown that programs
- 34:10like CogSmart, which combines cognitive rehabilitation
- 34:13training with support for returning to employment,
- 34:16can lead to quick recovery and fewer people developing
- 34:19post -concussion syndrome. This seems particularly
- 34:21helpful for veterans who might also have PTSD
- 34:24alongside the concussion. That integrated care
- 34:27is what makes the difference for long -term outcomes.
- 34:29So addressing those other conditions like depression
- 34:32or anxiety or PTSD is a really important part
- 34:35of concussion management, too. It's not just
- 34:37treating the head injury in isolation. Exactly
- 34:40that. Treating those comorbidities, the conditions
- 34:43happening alongside the concussion, significantly
- 34:46helps recovery from the concussion symptoms themselves.
- 34:50We know, for example, that getting people into
- 34:52controlled exercise early on helps prevent prolonged
- 34:55symptoms, partly because it reduces depression,
- 34:58anxiety, and sleep problems, which are all so
- 35:00common after concussion. It's a powerful non
- 35:04-drug intervention. And the other absolutely
- 35:07crucial factor both for preventing prolonged
- 35:09symptoms and for successful treatment is patient
- 35:12and family education. What kind of education?
- 35:15Setting realistic expectations is huge. Explaining
- 35:18that symptoms are often worse than the first
- 35:19week or two, but usually do improve. Busting
- 35:22myths, like the idea you need to lie in a dark
- 35:24room for weeks we know now that can be harmful.
- 35:27Empowering them with knowledge. Precisely. giving
- 35:30patients and their families accurate information,
- 35:33strategies they can use themselves, and confidence
- 35:35that recovery is possible. It shifts them from
- 35:38being passive sufferers to active participants
- 35:41in their own healing journey. That proactive
- 35:44mindset is key. Okay, so let's try and synthesize
- 35:49all of this. Thinking back to the Ontario study
- 35:52and everything else we've discussed, What are
- 35:54the main takeaways? What does this evolving landscape
- 35:56really mean for us? Well, it certainly brings
- 35:59us back to those surprising findings from the
- 36:01Ontario study. That direct comparison between
- 36:04the acute and PPCS groups really did throw up
- 36:07some counterintuitive results, didn't it? The
- 36:09ones about the traditional risk factor? Yes.
- 36:11The fact that sex, a history of mental health
- 36:14issues, and a history of headaches or migraines
- 36:16didn't show up as significantly more prevalent
- 36:19in the PPCS group compared to the acute group.
- 36:21especially when you think about that commonly
- 36:24quoted 10 -20 % progression rate. It challenges
- 36:26that idea, doesn't it? That only a small specific
- 36:29group with those factors is destined for long
- 36:31-term problems. It really does. It suggests the
- 36:34baseline vulnerability might be much brawner,
- 36:37more similar across many people who get a concussion,
- 36:40regardless of those specific pre -existing conditions.
- 36:44That fundamentally changes how we should think
- 36:46about identifying who's at risk. So we can't
- 36:48just tick those boxes, female, history of anxiety,
- 36:52history of migraines, and say, ah, high risk.
- 36:54It seems not. Based on this direct comparison,
- 36:58it really forces us to reevaluate how we identify
- 37:01people who might struggle. It suggests it's probably
- 37:04a much more complex interplay of factors rather
- 37:06than just a few simple predictors telling the
- 37:08whole story. But some factors did clearly stand
- 37:10out in the study as differentiating the groups.
- 37:13Yes, absolutely. Age was significant. Patients
- 37:16over 40 were at substantially higher odds of
- 37:18having prolonged symptoms. And the mechanism
- 37:21of injury, those transportation -related incidents
- 37:24carrying much higher odds, those are things we
- 37:26really need to pay close attention to right from
- 37:28the initial assessment. And the geographical
- 37:30finding. that finding about higher odds for PPCS
- 37:33outside the major metropolitan center, that really
- 37:36points towards potential access to care disparities.
- 37:39That needs looking at from a healthcare system
- 37:41perspective. It's not just about the individual
- 37:43patient. It's about the system they're navigating.
- 37:45Right. This deep dive has definitely painted
- 37:47a more complex, more nuanced picture of concussion
- 37:50than just a bump on the head. And it leaves us
- 37:53with a really important, maybe even provocative
- 37:55question for you, our listener, to think about.
- 37:59If that... commonly cited figure, that only 10
- 38:01-20 % of people develop persistent post -concussion
- 38:04symptoms, is actually, as some research hints,
- 38:07a significant underestimate, maybe closer to
- 38:0950 % in some real -world settings. What does
- 38:12that really mean? What are the implications for
- 38:14our healthcare systems, for our communities,
- 38:16for how we understand brain injury? It suggests
- 38:18a much larger burden than perhaps we've acknowledged.
- 38:21Exactly. This deep dive suggests many more people
- 38:25might be struggling with prolonged recovery,
- 38:28often without having those classic risk factors
- 38:30we used to focus on. So what more do we need
- 38:33to uncover about this sort of unseen burden?
- 38:36And how should this evolving understanding shape
- 38:39how we prevent, diagnose, and support the millions
- 38:42affected? It really pushes us towards thinking
- 38:45more holistically, doesn't it? Beyond single
- 38:47factors, towards more integrated care models
- 38:50that are accessible to everyone? Absolutely.
- 38:52Well, we really hope this deep dive has given
- 38:54you a fresh perspective and some valuable insights
- 38:57into the complex world of concussions and prolonged
- 39:00post -concussion symptoms. Hopefully some useful
- 39:02takeaways. If you did find this discussion illuminating,
- 39:05we'd be grateful if you could take a moment to
- 39:07rate and share this deep dive with your colleagues
- 39:09or anyone in your network who might benefit from
- 39:11these critical insights. Thanks for joining us.
- 39:14Thank you for joining us on the Deep Dive.