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Entrepreneur: Former CPA Charlie Shabazz tells us how she pivoted her career to Nothing Bundt Cake Franchisee. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: and never used what he likes playing my next guest.
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  Speaker 1: She's as known for Emmy nominating work in the iconic
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  Speaker 1: role of Nicky Read, a character she's played for forty
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  Speaker 1: years and counting on America's a number one daytime television
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  Speaker 1: drama The Young and the Restless. Her memoir Always Young
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  Speaker 1: and Restless. It's a very motivational book. I read it.
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  Speaker 1: It's very very recommended. It's a compelling book about her life.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be discussing her life, her career, and overcoming the odds.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Melody Thomas Scott. Well, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Well. Uh well, first of all, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: coming on the show. Thank you for having your people
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  Speaker 1: send a book to me. You know, I read a
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  Speaker 1: lot of books, Melody, and uh. One thing that jumped
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  Speaker 1: out of this book was overcoming that art was one Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And motivation. You you're constantly self motivated. Uh, can you
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  Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit before we were getting
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  Speaker 1: dealt about different things, and that I read about the
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  Speaker 1: book and some of the questions that your your team
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  Speaker 1: asked me to enquire about when we were doing the interview.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny that you consider me to be a
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  Speaker 1: self motivator. I don't believe that about myself at all,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll take the compliment we are because because you
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  Speaker 1: know the thing about it. I I look at my life,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and people laugh at me because I can
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  Speaker 1: remember things when I was two, three and five very clearly.
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  Speaker 1: I can you know, I'm gonna tell you something I can.
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  Speaker 1: I can remember when my sisters, you know, back in
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  Speaker 1: the day before they had the little pampers where you
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  Speaker 1: could just have a little when they had safety. I
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  Speaker 1: can remember my sister's actually sticking me intentionally because because
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  Speaker 1: because I was the middle child, I was the middle child.
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  Speaker 1: I can remember. And I talked people, they go, you're
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  Speaker 1: not telling the truth. How could you remember that? And
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  Speaker 1: then I read your book and I go, I finally
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  Speaker 1: met somebody, isn't it wonderful? And I only know before
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  Speaker 1: now learning about you, there's only one other person and
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  Speaker 1: that I've found that has the same memory that we do.
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  Speaker 1: So there's three of us anyway, And it's really interesting
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  Speaker 1: because you know, it is so as I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: starting your book and you you mentioned that, I go, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know you started, you said, okay, I can relate
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  Speaker 1: to her. Now, you know, we we have a kinship
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  Speaker 1: here because how many people have told me in fact, first,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, when I tell people that they say that
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  Speaker 1: they told me, I've not been telling truth so many
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  Speaker 1: times I don't even tell people anymore. They don't believe you.
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  Speaker 1: I totally understand. And so it's so. But but it's
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  Speaker 1: tied to it's tied to It's not tied to trauma.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. It's just that somehow in my life I
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  Speaker 1: am very you know, there are points in my life
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  Speaker 1: where you know, I'm not as clear, but for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, under five, I am very clear about
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  Speaker 1: what happened in my life between first grade from from
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  Speaker 1: under five, I'm very clear. Melody too, is isn't it strange?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember being in my crib, I remember
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  Speaker 1: all these I remember events that happened when I was
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  Speaker 1: one that have been verified by family members. So it
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  Speaker 1: is a freakish umber. Yes, but you know it's a
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  Speaker 1: blessing and occurs. I mean you probably don't remember some
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  Speaker 1: of those things, right, But let's talk about your career.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you write the book? Okay, for like I said,
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  Speaker 1: when I read it, it became a very motivating memoir
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  Speaker 1: to me. Why did you write the book? Well, thank you? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote the book. I've always known for many years
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  Speaker 1: that there was a book in me that needed to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, out there in the world. And it took
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, I think, um, getting over the
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  Speaker 1: the emotional blocks that one might have in writing about
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  Speaker 1: adversities in childhood, and mine were particularly unique, I would say.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean I was never going to write about
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  Speaker 1: write a book simply about the young and the restless.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that just would not do it for me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's interesting to the fans, but my
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  Speaker 1: real motivation was to write about my personal life and yes,
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  Speaker 1: things that I have overcome. Um. But when I said
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  Speaker 1: to you earlier, I don't view myself as self motivating. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It just happened to be that I was able somehow
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  Speaker 1: guardian angels or who knows what to uh break out
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  Speaker 1: of what could have been a very bad road. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was not. It was never my uh intent at
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  Speaker 1: the moments of thinking, all right, I'm going to overcome this. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was almost something otherworldly that guided me to a
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  Speaker 1: different path, uh for my government. And I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 1: for that, whatever forces or powers allowed me to do
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  Speaker 1: that and showed me those roads. It's really interesting. Let
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  Speaker 1: me I'm gonna repeat. I don't know if you heard
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  Speaker 1: my intro before I introduced you, and that is why,
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  Speaker 1: and that is why this book is such a natural
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  Speaker 1: to my storytelling about what you're bringing you on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I say it is important to understand that everybody travels
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  Speaker 1: a different path to success. This is her, but when
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  Speaker 1: you read her book, this is her book. That is
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  Speaker 1: because your brand is different. Brand is just a life,
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  Speaker 1: and that's her life. The challenge you're facing your life
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  Speaker 1: are different. That's her. And then what she did was
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  Speaker 1: she stopped reading other people's success story and started writing
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  Speaker 1: her own. I could not have written I said that.
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  Speaker 1: I said that every time I opened my show Melody,
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  Speaker 1: I could have not written a more classic intro that
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  Speaker 1: that mirrors your book. It's amazing and I would like
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  Speaker 1: to believe that what I'm trying to do on my
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  Speaker 1: show and what you've written in that book, trying to
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  Speaker 1: accomplish the same thing. You're telling your story. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: also inviting on the show to let people know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying is the truth. Yes, And that is why
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  Speaker 1: I wrote the book. I had to be truthful about everything.
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  Speaker 1: I had to include the dark with the light. You
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  Speaker 1: can't write a whole book all about the light that
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  Speaker 1: that meaningless some ways, so um, I just needed to
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  Speaker 1: let it out there. And since the release on August eight, teints,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard from so many people already that are thanking
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  Speaker 1: me for delving into particularly sensitive areas. That hearing from
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  Speaker 1: so many people, Oh my gosh, Melody. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: had similar things when I was a kid, and they're
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  Speaker 1: still caring them round, you know, as an adult. And
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  Speaker 1: it's so wonderful to be able to release that and
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  Speaker 1: move forward and lead the past in the past. And
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  Speaker 1: it really is important that I know. I'm working on
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  Speaker 1: a book myself, a motivating book, Melody, and the thing
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  Speaker 1: that I found and rightened it. You you start remembering
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  Speaker 1: things that you kind of like, buy you buried. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there were many times where I'm sitting at my computer
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  Speaker 1: writing a particularly grueling chapter, and I am there, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: due to our early childhood memory abilities when writing at
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  Speaker 1: I am there in the room where things were happening
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  Speaker 1: when I was four. And it's total recall, and it
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  Speaker 1: has to be in order for it to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what makes the book compelling. And now, now
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  Speaker 1: remember you stay every shot. I don't really see myself
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  Speaker 1: as a self starter. Well I'm gonna point out some
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  Speaker 1: examples of what I thought with a self start. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't mind when you intend to when you intentionally
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  Speaker 1: gain wait for their role. Nobody, nobody told you to
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  Speaker 1: do that, but you saw an opportunity. Okay, even that,
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  Speaker 1: you're giving me too much credit there? Why Why am
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  Speaker 1: I giving you too much credit? Speech speak speech to me?
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  Speaker 1: Because I still can't tell you to this day. Why
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  Speaker 1: When I was thirteen and reading Variety and learned about
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  Speaker 1: this part in this new Clint Eastern movie, I still
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  Speaker 1: cannot tell you what inside is? Me said, that's my part,
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  Speaker 1: and the part is of a chubby girl. Why I'm
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  Speaker 1: not chubby, but I can be very soon. And I
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  Speaker 1: just started eating with no promise of an interview. My
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  Speaker 1: agent had not ever uttered the words of this film. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just something in me that And it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go get that. Get a moment. We're gonna argue positively
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  Speaker 1: on this show, MC because you are fantastic and I
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  Speaker 1: think i'd like to say you kind of under sail
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  Speaker 1: yourself a little bit, but I can't say that because
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  Speaker 1: you're so successful. But what I see is a person
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  Speaker 1: that let's let's point out another example, to shoot this,
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  Speaker 1: to shoot this, the director he worked, He worked with
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  Speaker 1: him twice. Right, you saw an opportunity you called his
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  Speaker 1: lovely assistance. I feel a bit that that was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a devious move on my part. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: you know some people were getting that. What you would
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody if you don't mind that genius move there,
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  Speaker 1: that actually the role could have went to another blonde starlet.
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  Speaker 1: I won't reveal that little aha moment, but you did
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  Speaker 1: a genius move. Until long after we shot the film,
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  Speaker 1: I did not know who was supposed to play that part.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just kind of a strategic move on
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  Speaker 1: my part because I really did feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my career over should I go back and focus on
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  Speaker 1: my piano. I was a bit at a cross drugs,
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  Speaker 1: but I felt that taking a meeting with Don Seagal
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  Speaker 1: because I had worked with him twice before and I
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  Speaker 1: did know he was going to be doing to shoot this,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't let on to that in the meeting.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just again one of those you did
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  Speaker 1: when you talk to his assistant. You didn't let on
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  Speaker 1: then either strategic, strategic, strategic. Then when you met with him,
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  Speaker 1: then you made it with him, So you did it twice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you're very smart, and that's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: just letting you know that these are the tools that
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  Speaker 1: I took away from the book, that sometimes you have
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  Speaker 1: to make your opportunity. Sometimes you have to be a
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  Speaker 1: self starter. And these are the motivating moments that I
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  Speaker 1: took away from the book, and I have encouraging people
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  Speaker 1: to read because here's a person. Sometimes you don't Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity is not presented to you. Sometimes it may
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  Speaker 1: be so far away you might say, I can't achieve that.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happened. When you was eight years old, you
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  Speaker 1: was you were skinny, the roads for a chubby kid
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  Speaker 1: in your mind, your agent didn't saying, ain'ty about it,
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  Speaker 1: but you read it said I'm gonna get this, and
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  Speaker 1: you went and got it. But through effort, through effort,
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  Speaker 1: though well, through a lot of eating, I gained twenty
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  Speaker 1: pounds in two weeks. And I still don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you did that. I still don't know how you did that.
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  Speaker 1: You big time. I was determined without a solid opportunity
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  Speaker 1: at the end of that road, I didn't know. It
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  Speaker 1: was just something in me that thought, well, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do this and then and and then then you
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  Speaker 1: achieved it. And so when you achieve these things, you
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  Speaker 1: know I I'll never take it for an example myself.
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  Speaker 1: Mscott is there sometimes I I've accomplished things in life
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  Speaker 1: and then I kind of like, I think it's no
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  Speaker 1: big deal, and I'm understand that, but I'm just in
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  Speaker 1: my person out and I see a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that that you you've accomplished in your life and that
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  Speaker 1: you're doing your life. Sometimes obviously like saying, Okay, it
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  Speaker 1: happened because guess what was supposed to happen was the
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  Speaker 1: right place at the right time. And I tend to
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  Speaker 1: kill those statements in my life because I realized that
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  Speaker 1: it happened because I made effort. That happened because guess what,
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  Speaker 1: when somebody will give twenty three hours in the day,
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  Speaker 1: I gave twenty four hours. And I got that from
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  Speaker 1: your personality. Like when you went back to the Broadway
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  Speaker 1: store to work, you don't have to go back to
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  Speaker 1: that story work. And when you went back to that store,
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  Speaker 1: that led to another opportunity. I'm just saying, it's just
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  Speaker 1: your your your ability to see opportunities and make opportunities
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  Speaker 1: is what shines in this book when I read it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're starting to convince me now that perhaps there is
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  Speaker 1: a bit of that in me. All the goodness, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry I am outside because there's so much activity
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  Speaker 1: in my house right now. Sorry for that. UM goodness, UM,
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting to agree with you. Um. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: know what you could You could convince the snowman to
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, when when the reality is that That's
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  Speaker 1: why I was so excited when I got the book.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they sent it to me a book and
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know, and I vary familiar with your talents.
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  Speaker 1: You know, A big fan of the show. Uh. I
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: grew up my mom was a soap opera fan and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: so so that's over the sixties. I was, you know, seventies,
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  Speaker 1: I was watching before I went off to college and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: my life took a whole new direction and I thought
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  Speaker 1: I was a man of men and things like that
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  Speaker 1: and became the person I am today. But along the way,
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  Speaker 1: it was like even when you even when you had
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to audition for the iconic role that you
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  Speaker 1: have right now, you know, you had a sitcom opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: a pilot up to time you was on the Waltons.
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  Speaker 1: But yeadn't still but yeahn't still well, But I, as
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  Speaker 1: you read in the book, I didn't. I really wasn't
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  Speaker 1: interested in the role on The Young and the rest Less,
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  Speaker 1: because as you say, I had that other opportunity that
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  Speaker 1: I very much wanted to do. It's only because my
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  Speaker 1: agent convinced me to take wine, aren't. And goodness gracious,
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  Speaker 1: the moral of that is always listened to your agent,
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  Speaker 1: because we see was shut so right, forty one years later,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still on that show. Which is incredible. Wow, I
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  Speaker 1: just love talking to you because you are the incredible one,
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  Speaker 1: young lady. But you see, I have always felt, even
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  Speaker 1: as a child, and to this day, I feel that
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  Speaker 1: I'm very much the statalist and that you know, things
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  Speaker 1: that come to me come to me from other forces,
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  Speaker 1: because wherever I'm at is where I'm supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: And if another opportunity opens up, I don't feel that
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  Speaker 1: I gun for it. Okay, until you started talking to
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  Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. Now, Rashaw mcdowe got you thinking about yourself
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different here you should have maybe Row
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  Speaker 1: I will give him full credit, but he's trying. It's
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  Speaker 1: onto something hit because because you can give your agent
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  Speaker 1: credit if you want to, Rushaw won't. Okay, Rush won't
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  Speaker 1: because you still have to give one effort. And when
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  Speaker 1: you're write in this book, you may have had those
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  Speaker 1: two opportunities, but you wanted this opportunity. Then you when
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  Speaker 1: you went in read you you naturally matching the screen test.
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  Speaker 1: You you the effort and then the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: got it. And then she she gives you, your agent
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  Speaker 1: gives you this half compliment where the other girl was prettier.
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  Speaker 1: You could you could have told me everything. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: you know the thing, they turned out other girl because
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  Speaker 1: she was actually prettier than you, So thank good. But
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  Speaker 1: they said that she said was prettier than you, but
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  Speaker 1: you were the better actor. There you go, we are
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  Speaker 1: all on the same page. Now, Melody I am. I
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  Speaker 1: think I've gotten you. I think I've gotten the spirit
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  Speaker 1: of Melody on my side. Now let's talk about this
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  Speaker 1: brilliant career. NICKI read come on now, I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I had to. I had to dig deep on this.
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  Speaker 1: And because I said, you know some I'm reading this book,
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  Speaker 1: and this book is so you know, it starts with
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a dark side, this childhood, and she's like me, she's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: remembering a lot of things that most people say you're
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: foolish to be able to you're just lying. You're not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: telling the two years. You're just acting right now. But
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: that's part of what the other magic of who you are.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And then then you take all these stories but donn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: affect your everyday life, and you know it doesn't slow
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you down, you know, and you just all like you said,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: all you wanted was a sense of normalcy in your life.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: That's what you're said in the book, and and and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: ironically that normal to me was being an actor and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: getting I knew that I was not living the life
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of a normal little girl at all. But I knew
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that if I got a job, I could go to
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  Speaker 1: a studio and play the part of a normal little girl.
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  Speaker 1: And that was everything to me. And that is problem ably,
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  Speaker 1: But what was the very beginnings of my deep desire
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  Speaker 1: to be an actor. It was like, Hey, I'm living
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the craziest world ever at home with this nutty family.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But I can feel successful and at peace with my
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  Speaker 1: own self by being an active by jumping into another
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: character's mind. That and I still feel that way. That
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  Speaker 1: is the joy of acting for me is to take
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a character that doesn't exist in reality, that making her real.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Emmy nominated actress who plays the iconic
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  Speaker 1: role on The Young and the Restless Nicki Read forty
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: years in County. We're discussing her book Always Young and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Restless is very motivational. Book, is a meanoir. It's about
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  Speaker 1: her life. You know, is um You call her NICKI Read?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And yes, indeed she was. NICKI Read. But everybody today
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: they all want to say Nicki Newman, Nicki Newman is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that whole Newman thing you know? Uh? Of course she
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: has been married twelve times, so I'm not going to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: fall So so what what do you want me to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: do now? Ms Scott Nicky Read or NICKI Newman, You've
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: been married toll time. See see. I love talking to you.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I love you. But you're probably one of my most
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: interesting guests because like his book can I, there's a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: couple of things in the book. I want to say
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that that I agree with you when you said right
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  Speaker 1: place at the right time, like when you went in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and Kirk Douglas braided your hair. M h okay, that's what.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: That's that's all. Now here explained this to me, if
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you will, okay, cool, thank you. When I was in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that stock room at the Broadway selling shoes, and I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: had been told do not answer the phone in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: stock room, and I never so that one day and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: again I don't know what what made me go pick
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: up that receiver and say, you know, well, ladies, shoes,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: hath can I help you? Uh? And it turns out
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to be my childhood agent, which led to an I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: mean as if no time had passed and it has
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: been years since I had spoken to her. UH. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: then I go to the address she gives me. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: walk in and there's Kirk Dacles behind the desk. And
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that led to me getting POSSI, which really led to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: me getting back into the business as an adult. Uh
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to to work continuously. But explain that to me. What
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: made me answer that song that that same quality that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I keep saying about you, the overriding desire to win
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and to you know, some we're not winning. What I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: talked to a lot of successful people, and you truly
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: are a successful person. And in the end they wind
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: up being successful because they trust themselves. People tell them
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what not to do, they do it anyway because they
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: trust themselves. They don't do They don't do it because
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of the fact that they're trying to break a rule.
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  Speaker 1: If it doesn't make sense to them, then they're going
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to break the rule because they go, why can't I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: answer this phone? And and and and and that. When
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I was read that part of the book, I go,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: she's been an incredible actress. All these just where they
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: were walkswer the phone, and then when I when they
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: got to that part, and then when you answered the phone,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it all made sense because that's the natural if you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: if you read yours, which of course, of course you're
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: rich story. You wrote it. You were rebellious all the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: way up to that point. Okay, very rebell You're very rebellious.
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  Speaker 1: So so when you when somebody telling a very rebellious personality, Look,
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  Speaker 1: don't answer the phone. What do you think it's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 1: You want to answer the phone? And you answered the phone,
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  Speaker 1: and guess what it was somebody that, Wow, this is
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  Speaker 1: so crazy. I'm gonna share a story with you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell you we're so interesting, how our lives intertwined,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and not saying you're me and I'm you're I'm you.
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  Speaker 1: When I was in the hospital with my lung collapsed, okay,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and I was I was in I c U that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: came out, and I was in hospital, and it was
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: just I was a stand up comic, I should be
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a very popular stand up comic, and a comedy competition
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: was going on. I knew nothing about it because I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: was in the hospital. I longer collapsed and the phone
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: rung in my hospital room melody. I picked it up.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It was this guy asking me, did I want to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: compete in a comedy competition? Now you see, that was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the same kind of moment. We are very much alike,
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  Speaker 1: you understand, And so that moment right there lip got me.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was released from the hospital. Three days later,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I was on stage and I made the finals. It
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was a national TV show. It got me back into
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the stand up comedy group because I had fallen off
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: because I was in the hospital. But it's the same scenario.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: So when I'm reading your book, I'm like, there are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: too many aha moment aha moments with you and I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: because we're we're we're self starters, okay, and you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in life, people have told us what we cannot do,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and we've accomplished things that most people have considered the extraordinary.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And yet we're nice because you are a nice person. Well,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: thank well, you've just met me. Now give me a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: little time. You might change mind that I read it
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: all two and seventy pages. Okay, I could read between
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the lines. Now, oh you're wonderful. Let let's talk about
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the story. We're a little bit that just being a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: star on the show that long and the responsibilities of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: being a star on the show that long. Can you
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit? See kind of thinking
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't even answer my mind. It's hard for me to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: even say I am a star. That makes me so
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable to say that. Um, you know, we're a company,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: We're a repertoire company, and I feel that we are
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: all stars in our own right. You know. The The
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: interesting thing about when I when I meet a person
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like you, because we've never met before, and you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: we look and uh, you know what, But I take
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: after this conversation, I do want to meet you in person.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I think that would be really you're amazing in it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But when I and then thank you for wanting to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: meet with me because of the fact that my whole
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: thing and doing this interview was first of all, to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: meet you and also to share what I view what
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: my takeaways from a book, because we all have reasons
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: why we write a book. But I just want to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: let you know that some people who read the book,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: they are inspired. And you have to have to realize
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that's a blessing in my eyes. The fact that you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that you were honest enough to say, look, because I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: just telling you, when you when you hang up the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: phone or during this interview, if you really look at
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about in your book. You overcame so
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: many high odds, so many levels of different types of abuse,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: so many emotionally challenging physical moments, and you survived it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And you survived it, uh and and and and it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: didn't affect you. And so many people allow things to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to take them off their success, that their path of opportunity,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and you didn't. And that's why I had to say
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that you are a self starter. But when a moment
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: sense itself melody, you take advantage of it. You do not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You know, when you have to take the larber called dog,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you took the doll. Okay, you know you took the dog,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and so you dog. I don't like dogs, she said, okay,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: we'll bring the dog on there. Because you understood relationships,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and all these things have when you look
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: back in your life, you relive because you have such
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a great memory you could. I think you get to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate your life a lot more because you can't remember
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: so many things I can. And I think that was
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: very helpful in uh for the readers out there who
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: think that I am NICKI nem and a lot of people,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a fine line. They really think that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that is me and if they read everything I've been
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: through and everything that I have come out of the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: other end it, it gives them hope. And if I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: can give them encouragement to you know, stick with it
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and and there is light at the end of the tunnel,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: then that writing the book is all worth it. If
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I can just help those who might be going through
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: similar things or did as a child and are now
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: adults still carrying it around with them, they don't need to.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: They don't need to dump it and move on, move on,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: move on, or share it with somebody so you can
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: dump it. And that's important too, because sometimes you need
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to speak speaking and get it out of your system
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and and see how some people who care about you
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: react to it, and you realize it's no big deal.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And that's the blessing of communication. That and itself has
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: been very healing for me to have put it all
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: out there. Hey here it is works and all. And uh,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm encouraging others to follow my lead.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I guess you know, Nicki Newman. You know I'm talking
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to Nicki Newman here. Okay, the iconic Nikki no more. Now,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I love talking to you. Well in your book, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: met a lot of famous people. Nikki Franklin, huh Ahmad Ali,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yes, that was great, great day. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: so when you meet these famous people, you know kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I tell you when you said you met I'm just
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: tell you something. John Wayne, I'm a Western nut. So
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: John Wayne was I grew up in loving John Wayne.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Kirk Douglas, A man's a man, one of my spotticuts,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite acts. So you came,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you started writing off names. It's like I was jealous
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of you. I would say, I hope she took pictures.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I hope she took pictures and long recall. Oh that
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that that I can just see her silhouette. You know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going, oh my goodness, Carl Reiner, Aretha Franklin. Okay,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I'm telling something. And you want to meet Rashaan McDonald,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I feel even better. It was festive, but you got
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a book out and uh. I first of all, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for writing a book that
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: inspired me to realize that I'm living the right life.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I'm all the things that I'm doing my life I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: should keep doing. And age has never been an issue
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: with you. You've been motivated by hard work and success
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and the fact that when and I just wanted to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: respond to this before we leave, because in the entertainment
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: business it's always feels with so much uncertainty. You work,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you work, And when you got that three year contract
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: h for young and the wrestlers, how did that make
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you feel? At that point, You're like, because you know
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what your your life had been, the experience with your grandmother, Uh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: certain situations that that that people should have been been
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: put in jail by the way they treated you physically,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But at that point you have offered
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a three year contract. What did that? What did that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: do for you emotionally and mentally? And uh, we know
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: what it did for you financially. I think I was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: too young and immature to really appreciate what that meant.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: But slowly clearly um it. Of course you know it
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: does affect of life. All of a sudden, you're making
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: regular money every week, which for you know, free lance
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: act or that never happened, and you start making new
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: friends lifelong friends on the show. You start maybe wearing
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: nicer clothes and driving a nicer car, and it just
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: kind of slowly creeps up on you without you realizing, Hey,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I've kind of jumped into a different bracket here of living.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You're living in a house and these things just occur
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: without you giving them that much credence. But certainly as
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: time goes on. Uh And and I mean not only
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: did it affect my life financially, but I met my
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: husband because of Young and Wrestless. I have my children
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: because of Young and Wrestles. So it really impacted my
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: life tremendously, more so than most actors, I think, because
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: of the personal rewards it gave me. Show that has
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: been such a blessing and still is that. I mean,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: how many shows are even on forty one years and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I've been on it for forty one years. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: truly truly And as they say, still looking good and
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• 31:14
  Speaker 1: How memoir Always Restless is a very motivational book. Nicki
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  Speaker 1: Newman's on my show A k. A. Melody Thomas Scott,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. I really
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that skilled New Soul Kitchen is
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• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Chef Jernard will be a solo host. This year we
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  Speaker 1: will talk about the show's new direction and be a
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  Speaker 1: more health conscious and the more health conscious manner for
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  Speaker 1: all of us today, especially in COVID and eighteen. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the show the Family Self Chef Jernard Wells. Hello, Hello, man.
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  Speaker 1: So I never finished that man chef, that hetroduct yourself
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  Speaker 1: so good. I was like he talking about me and somebody,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, it is my whole show. Interview
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  Speaker 1: of the intro? Is it the whole? That's all I
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  Speaker 1: want to know, because I like you keep talking, but
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  Speaker 1: I do have some things I want to say. Let's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that. What you're saying. We're gonna
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: jump around a little bit, but I want to start first.
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  Speaker 1: What you just said, by the show is geared towards
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  Speaker 1: the black millennial woman because their unique styles of eating
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: food compared to their parents and older siblings. I have
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a daughter who's twenty four, and she loves the Food Network,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: watches it all the time, watches it all the time.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And then now she's like she she was one of
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the favorite shows. Is that the worst Cooks? She couldn't
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: believe I interviewed and morell she couldn't she could damn
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you know her, you know her. She she didn't saw
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: un TC once because Nazi I was interning at my company. Now,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: so she just updates all the update all the media kids.
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  Speaker 1: So now she will see your photo. She's gonna go
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  Speaker 1: you know, Chef to know it will due because you
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  Speaker 1: know everybody, and so I know that really caught me
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  Speaker 1: off guard that here's a twenty four year old person
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  Speaker 1: who's watching the Food Challenge and the Cooking Challenge so much.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that whole generation that is now you know,
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  Speaker 1: more into like the self help, do it myself, do
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  Speaker 1: it yourself, and you guys are supplying that and that
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: is the whole corner stone of New Soul Kitchen. That
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: is so true, and that's what's driving a drive with
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the band with now and and it's funny you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Chef and Burrell, which is a good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Chef and Burrell is whom I did my first TV
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: show with the Food Network about eleven years ago. The
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: name of the show was Chef wont it was and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Burrell And they brought me to New York City in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and had me to take over the oldest steak house
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in in New York City by the name of Old
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  Speaker 1: Homestead and gave me that restaurant for at nite. Amazing experience.
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  Speaker 1: But now, the way, the way, time, the way the
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  Speaker 1: market is point it is we're in the d I
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  Speaker 1: y or do it yourself society. Now where the millennial
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  Speaker 1: woman is driving that. And one of the biggest things
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  Speaker 1: is is they see what They go to restaurants and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: they eat great food, but then after they eat it,
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  Speaker 1: they want to go home and recreate it, versus when
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the people before as we're going and they go in
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the restaurant and they eat great food. What they're saying
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: is I can't wait to go back to that restaurant.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: But the driving force that watching TV now when they
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: can go to the restaurants, but they see it, they
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: want to recreate that experience, not just for themselves but
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: for them for their friends because we're in this more
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: innovative driving platform. Indeed, you know, even though the pandemic
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: has been a big downside for a lot of people,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it's been upside for the food industry because people who
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: were normally eating out and and living for the week
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: kids just to eat. We were quarantined at home and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: they had no choice but to cook or they're gonna
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: be eating cold cousin Balogne every day. Absolutely. Now, my daughter,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: like just yesterday, she uh, she made some cream spinach
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: for me. I didn't even ask her the cream Spanish
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and she I said, what did you learn that. I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: saw it on The Worst Cook because she worst I'm
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: telling say, try his daddy. And here's the thing about
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: The Worst Cook really is inspiring a lot of people
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: who can't cook. Could they get to see the progression,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you know, a person who can't cook making all the mistakes.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Suddenly at the end of the show they can cook,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and so they And it's not pre perscating, No, it's not.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's not. And so I'm just letting you know that
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  Speaker 1: that you know, I'm just I'm talking about that, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about So Kitchen. But I'm just
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: using my daughter as an example. I'm not trying to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: get away from the concept of who or what you're
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: doing with new show Cleto TV. I'm just using an
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  Speaker 1: example that you're talking about millennial. My daughters a millennial.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So she is that person that you're talking about on
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Cleo TV, your Clear TV show Knew So Kitchen that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: is now driving the digital, driving the social force of
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: your show. Now, let me ask you this about New
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Soul Kitchen. Did it start out like that? Was that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the original concept? Yeah, that was the original concept with
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: New Soul Kitchen. Um, which is which is as you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: with Cleo TV. It was a new network when it
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: when at Lunched two years ago and it really blossom
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: and took off. It took out fashion and what we
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: realized it was and and the thing was, we knew
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: it was a need. The network knew it was a
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: need for this is why they created it. But what
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: she realized that the need was gonna take off the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: way it did. You know, even with season one of
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: New so Kitchen, the way it was where it was
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: initially set up, it was me a Southern chef that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: was cooking American cuisine fair and they paired me with
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  Speaker 1: vegan chef because they knew veganism was big and the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: millennial culture. So what they did was going into season two,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: which will be we season two of the airing in October,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm so happy I would had the ability to
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: film season two literally days before the pandemic shut down
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: New York. I was. I was on the first thing
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: smoking out of there. But the way season two is
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be set up is of course me as a
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: sol host, but I have four amazing young women that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: have expertise and different fields that are gonna be joining
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: me through the sixteen episodes. Um one young lady specialized
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: in veganism, another one specializes in the African diaspora, another
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: one specializes in keto, and then another one specialized in
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: seafood pesctarian. So we touch on all of those areas.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So you get to experience to fear, get to experience
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  Speaker 1: these different cuisines. And what I do is instead of
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: just cooking how I typically would cook, I step into
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: their coach in their world, and I create meals that
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: are comparable to go just alonge with them. So you have,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: as we call it, the Yen and the yet you
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: get the best of both worlds with this new season.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Now the cool thing is rashon New so Kitching being
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: so well and we won we want several awards, three
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Telly Awards, where I also had the benefit now of
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: having a second show. So I have a second show
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that will be airing this coming year, which is New
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: so Kitching Remix, and that show is geared towards the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: millennial woman or a man that wants to create great
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: meals on the fly. So if you're listening to learn
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: how to cook a meal in thirty minutes of mass,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I'm your man. So so that so that's what you
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: do on that show. You're going there and show how
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the quickly a quick miller? Now when does that air?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: That airs? Win? Then with New Soul Kitchen Remix is
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be later on later on this year after New
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Soul Kidchen Rise and two Stars with New Soul Kids
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and Season two stars in October. So we hadn't had
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: got the release date for New So Kitchen Remix that yet.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: So when would you be shooting that that remix show?
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: At Well, I'll be shooting that. Richer already shot it.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Why I went to New Powerhouse production that and I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: shot twenty eight episodes in eight days. Okay, you did
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it like Tyler Perry. You know Tyler Parachute series. You know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: twenty five episodes in a week. You know, So if
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry can do it, you know you can do
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: it for a cooker show. Hey, I said, why not?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I was like Energiz the bunny, just wind me up
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and just let me go. Well, you know, think about it. Now,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: what period and now let's let's slow it down here
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: so I can make sure I'm getting all all the
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: information crack. Now, The New Souls Kitchen show was shot
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: right before in New York City right before the pandemic shutdown. Right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that was sixteen episodes, four different female chefs, millennial chefs
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: are god of coin with four different styles of and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna match their cooking styles based on how
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: you present stuff, right, correct, So which is really smart
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: not saying that the host that was their last year,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: actually she's just all she could do with vegan. So
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: this year you start with a vegan, but you got
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the African diosis. Then you have with the keyno you said,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and then the seafood, so those are fordive. So it
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: maintains the interests a lot stronger and allows the people
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: not to think it's the same old, same old, because
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: guess what, not everybody is into veganism. That's not nothing
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that right, but not everybody it's nothing because you don't
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: have to be in the veganism. The eat veganism. As
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I always tell people, anytime you get your plate, you
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: always don't have your meat and two sides. So you
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: eat vegan food with even right right right, with a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: little that was meat. Like me, that's you know, I'm
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: gonna have some meat in my college greens. I'm going
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I had so I might have some vegan looking green,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: but it's some meat dancing in that and that sauce.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: That's sauce. There, not another shif. I think we've been
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: known each other a long time. We came together back
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in two seventeen, and I've been fortunate to watch your
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: journey as an entrepreneur and what you grow, and it
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: really sow your knowledge into me because you're you're icon
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: in in this game, and I really just religious thank
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you for for you know, all the knowledge that you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: take time to show into me, you know, on and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: off the camera. Well I appreciate it because you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I really called you the family chef. You have a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: beautiful wife, you have a large family, and uh so
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you could? You could. It gives you an opportunity to practice.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: It's my worst critic, absolutely absolutely so. So when you
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: go away and do a show like Cleo TV, okay,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and uh this is I like to say, because we've
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: always talked about you doing your own show, and it
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: kind of feels like the Cleo TV is finally giving
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you your leverage to be your own brand. How is
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the relationship of building out your brand and time to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a show like New Soul Kitchen happening out your other
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneur opportunities. Because I've seen you on Rachel Ray. You
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• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Alwa take my hand over. You know it's really opening
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  Speaker 1: up the doors. Cleo has really opened up the doors
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to give me a voice and a platform. And what
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: they did was when when when I when I came
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to Cleon, we became a family. Instead of smuggling out
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the light that I had from doing these shows a
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  Speaker 1: countless years of Food Network and Cooking Channel, they allowed
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  Speaker 1: me to use that knowledge blossom into who and what
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I desired and what I wanted to see. You know
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  Speaker 1: if that was one of the most amazing things that
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  Speaker 1: I really love, especially were dealing with the exect that
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  Speaker 1: Cleo and they the producers with Powerhouse Production is they
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• 47:27
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• 47:30
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• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Nothing's wrong with that, but it's something about when they
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  Speaker 1: Now here's the thing I want to talk about right here.
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  Speaker 1: You was talking about millennials being health conscious. I'm reading
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  Speaker 1: your bio here about the show New Soul Kitchen, which
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  Speaker 1: is on Cloe Over TV. My my daughter, she's been
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  Speaker 1: making these red velvet UH donuts with UH with white
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  Speaker 1: iceing on them, you know, And I'm trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out you said millennials are wanting more health conscious food option.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to figure out it's red velvet doughnuts
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  Speaker 1: with white ice and health conscious. It depended on how many. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just continue this chiffs and on. I've been
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  Speaker 1: eating two a day for five days. Bro oh wow
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  Speaker 1: if it was many, do I see the rashol eat postal?
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  Speaker 1: I know how you get down. I just gotta I
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  Speaker 1: may have a different millennial like that. I'm have a
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: different millennial like that. The thing is, like you said,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: what's what's the millennial? They truly do believe in Hey,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I can have my cake and eat it too, along
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: with everything else. But what they do is they have
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: they have active lifestyles. And also if you notice it,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the typical millennium, when you see them, they don't overindulge
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: um like the jet gen xs did you You will
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: see them in donus. Your see them eating, taking advantage
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of all their guilty pleasures. And then you cut another
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: corner you will see them didn't eating eating and kill salad.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: You know it is because maybe it's because of of
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the way society has started to gear things and the
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: way they see it. They look at food differently, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the food that they desire to put in their bodies,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: it's different. You see them more and so on, I'm
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: cooking with the weak flour, I'm using whole grain this,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I'm farm to table. You know their selection of food.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: They don't the millennials now, they don't typically gravitate towards
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the process food like the generations prior to them. And
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things which allows them to eat
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: with it eat. You know, when we think about it, Rashan,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I O grandparents and our great grandparents, they ate what
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: they want when they wanted it, from from the fat,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: back the router to the tutor, you name it. They
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: ate it and they lived long life. So what's the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: difference now? If the difference then is what's being put
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: in a lot of the food. So when you become
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: health conscious, on, okay, I can eat this, but let
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: me figure out what's in it before I eat it,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: so I know how much to eat or how or
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: women eat it, or how to cook it. And they
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: changed it where we don't cook a lot with with
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: lard and cooking oils. You'll see you don't see the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: millennials gravitating towards avocado or olive or great sea or
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and it's those minor renew things that changes their whole
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: diet and how their body breaks down the food. Now
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to a chef, Gernard Wells, the family chef.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: He shows he's coming back for the second season. He's
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the solo chef. I can say he's a solo chef.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: But he got four new additional millennial they millennial chefs.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's coming. I have four amazing ladies that only
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: show with me and we're kicking some bud and having
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: some fun. Look, I can tell you this. Other shows
• 53:51
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  Speaker 1: of the athletic form of skateboarding. Uh, It's kind of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: a mixture of things. Um. Part of it was just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: like the neighborhood that grew up in, Like I was
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: always seeing the little neighbor kids out there doing it.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: And that also, UM, I don't know if you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: like the Tony Hawks skate games had afore when I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: was a little kid, and that was one of the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: first games that had so I was always playing that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: as well. Then it was like, you know, I do
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: it on the game. Let's go try and realize. Well. So,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: so he was inspired by Tony Harku's everybody knows it's
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: a legendary Uh. Probably the probably probably the most well
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: paid person in the history of skateboarding. I would say
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: it because he has skateboards, a fashion line and and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: became like a star, a true star before social media
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: was out, And imagine how big he would have been
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: if he had social media when he was breaking all
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: those barriers and becoming the star he became on skateboarding. Now,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: when you when you want to be a skateboard it
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: was two things in your intro that we talked about.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: One was the fact that you are you can't skateboard,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: but you also are on artists. So let's talk about
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: the development of that talent. Because at the age of twelve,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: you said, like about the sixth grade you started skateboarding.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I found the uh in your neighborhoo, you saw people,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: So I like that, I'd like to try that. What
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: at the arts scale, the artist skills started, don't start
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: your developer. Um Well, also, when I was a kid,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I had an uncle that loot with me and he
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: was an oil painter, and so I was always watching
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: him and I kind of got inspired by that. And
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: then I was always a doing when I was in school,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and I would do like a little portrait drawings of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: like all the celebrities and the little boy bands that
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I would listen to, and really just went from there
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: and then, um, I never really quit drawing. I went
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: to art school and then I went to graphic design school.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely been a big part of my
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: life as well. So everything, your whole life is the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: state of Ohio, that's what you're telling me. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: So you're born there, did all your are training there,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: skateboard enthusiasts in a in a code state, and now
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: you launched a company called proper Nor. What does nar
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: mean as g in a are proper Nor? No, it's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: um short for gnarly. Um. It's just a term that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of skateboarders use. Um. You can use it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: in all kinds of different ways. Um. It can be
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: something that's like a really cool and like really crazy,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: like if you do a really big trick or really
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: like technical trick like oh, that's gnarly. Or also like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you know, if you like hurt yourself and you get
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: like messed up, like, oh that's what that's a gnarly
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: looking star you out there. It can be used many
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: different ways. Well that not now get the term gnarly
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: nor so because that's that's such a TV term, that's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: such a California term, and it's really tied to a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: fantastic African American female skater in the state of Ohio.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: How does that play out in the in the scheme
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: of things. First of all, first of all, affect you
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: being black, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: people assume that I'm from California. Like I always get
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: people like messaging me like, oh wow, like you're you're
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: in Ohio, Like I thought you were like in l
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: A or something. But um, yeah, it's definitely accepted me
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: a lot. You know, like when I would go to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: the skate park when I was younger. Um, you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: first of all, being a woman, like people don't really
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: you know, like the stereotype of skating isn't being a girl.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: And then especially like being like a black woman, Like
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a few you know, professional black men skaters,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: but you don't really see women doing that too often.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: So it's definitely you know, comments that I've gotten while
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: at the skate park, you know about how I don't
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: really fit the stereotype and uh but I mean here
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: lately it's it's worked out to my advantage. But that's
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: that's a newer thing. Definitely in the past, you know,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: people kind of thought it was weird or you know,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, can you really skate? Like, oh,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: are you like a closer? Wow? They asked you can
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: you really skate? Did you have to prove yourself? What? Yeah? Um,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. People just uh they they kind of
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: don't take you seriously. Like you go to the park
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, people I watch you to see if
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: you can really skater. If you're just there, you know,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: like skateboarders there, they kind of like the gate keep
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: their culture. Um yeah, yeah, they only try and let
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: like certain people in, so they make sure you're legit
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: before they work with you and you know, support you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Okay, okay, let me just back up.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: This is Sean McDonald talking to Tasha Stone. She's creator
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: of an incredible company called Skateboarding Company. She's black, female,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: proper nor no you know, like gnarly dude. Since that's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: when she founded the company. Now, how do you prove
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: yourself that you can skateboard that? Because I've seen people,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: you know, they hit the bottom of the board, it
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: pops up and they can grab it in their hand.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I've seen people slide down steps and balance themselves. I've
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: seen people you know, hit it and it rotates three
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: sixty and it comes down and they can land on
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: top of it. What are like three major tricks that
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: you have to show that you can actually, you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: participate in this game of skateboarding and credibility. I guess
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: we should say, Um, you know a lot of time
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: you'll be at the skatepark and people like to challenge
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: you to a game called skate which is where you, uh,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: you gotta spell out the letters and like whoever spell
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: the letters out first, Like every time you land a trick,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: it's a letter and you know, whoever gets gets it
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: first wins. Um. That's one of the way that a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people are like, oh, do
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: a kick flip. You gotta like bust it out, like okay,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: not Natasha can't just throw out these terminology do a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: kick flip? You know, I don't know where the kick
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: flip is, hilphone help the host out here, so you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: just can't run out there. You already yeah, I already
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: had to explain to me where gnarly meant. N Okay,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: so when you say a kick flip, we all radio
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: tells us exactly what that is. Um, a kick flip is, uh,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's a honestly one of the tricks, like one
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of the more technical tricks that people really learn how
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: to do them the beginning. But it's just when you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: can flip the board uh completely around and just land
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: on it like like you do it. It's like it
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: flips like three sixty degrees and you come back and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: land on it. Okay, so so you land on it.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Now here's my question about skateboarding. Okay, can I ask
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: you how tall are you? I'm five too, okay, five two?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Is it an advantage to be a smaller in statue
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: or it is? All right, it doesn't matter if you're tall.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: You can be an outstanding skateboard artists. Um. Yeah, it
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: does have an advantage of being shorter, because that's one
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: thing about like kids with skateboarding, because they're they're closer
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to the ground and that helps with your center of gravity.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: But anybody of any size and height can really learn
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: how to do it though. And so now do you
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: have training sessions? Just talk about your BIS. This is
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: your business tied to just the the you know, a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: parrel line the skateboards, and let's talk about that whole process.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: And also the pandemic hit and you had a main job,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: the main job went away. What ranked your mind right there?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Was it? Like you did you feel like it was
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: forcing you to commit to your really your your number
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: one passion, which was skateboarding and being an artist. Or
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: you just traumatized by the fact that a pandemic hit
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: you have no job. What's next? Move was just moved
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: number two in your life? Um, honestly, like both of
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: those are. Yeah. I was definitely really stressed when that happened.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I did photography um before well, I you know, the pandemic,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: it's kind of been starting in January, and I've been
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: uh doing the photography there for a couple of months,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: and then you know, I started to see other places
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: closed down, so I was like wondering, you know, what
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: was I going to be next? And then it did happen,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: and you know, school's closed, and it was super stressful.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: So it was like, yeah, I definitely got to do
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: something because that unemployment. I was not uh you know,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: it was not kicking in, and I mean I already
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: had the business going, but it was definitely like all right, now,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: now I got the time to stay at home and
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, really put all my time into it, and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's now or never. I'm never gonna
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: get this chance again to have all this time off,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: you know and get everything going. So I just put
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: my whole into it. And when you say all into it,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: what do you mean when you say that? Because of
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the fact that where were you at when you lost
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: your job with business wife? Where were you at? Um?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: It was doing okay, but it wasn't. It definitely wasn't
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: doing what it is now. Um. You know, I I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: couldn't really focus on it fully because you know, I
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: did have the other job. You know, it's hard to work,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: you know, four hours a week and then come home
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: and then also make your art and then also around
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: the business and do shipping, and you know all the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: social media and all that. So you in a way
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: like getting laid off definitely was a blessing because now
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I had the full time to manage everything and you know,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: get caught up on everything and come out with all
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  Speaker 1: making conversations. I'm your host Sean McDonald. Well, you know
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: social media is plays a major role in the business
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: platform now and uh, you started going viral. And when
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: you said the word viral, that was that intentional intentional
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: marketing techniques or it just happened when you started allowing
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: yourself to see your business blow up based on social media.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: It really just happened. Um. It was crazy how it
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: all happened. Um. Back in early June, I got featured
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: on Beyonce's um Black Parade business list and honestly ever since, okay,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: before we're going to further explain to everybody what the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: what exactly that is the Black Parade directly or black
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: owned businesses that To be honest, I think she had
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: like a hundred and Instagram followers and she created this
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: black business page. Correct, Yeah, yeah, she uh put every
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: all these businesses on her main web page. So when
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: you went to Beyonce dot com, it was this list
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: of all these black owned businesses that she endorsed, and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I was one of those. I woke up and everybody
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: was telling me about it, and I honestly didn't believe
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: it at first, and then I went off with myself
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, that's crazy, but yeah, yeah,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: she uh, she really helped launch a lot of other businesses,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: like I've been hearing from the other people that are
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: featured on that list as well that they've been having
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: some pretty good successes since then. And um really, after that,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: I just started getting more people reaching out to me. Definitely.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: It definitely opened up a whole new customer base to me.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: And UM I did an interview back in lie with
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: um Black Enterprise and that was when things really took off.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: And I went to sleep and I had like seven
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: hundred some shares on it and I was like, you know,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: that's cool. And then I look at it the next
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: day and it had like two hundred thousands and it
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: just kept going up and up from there. Now when
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: you when when you say things have taken off, what
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: is what is in our world of business? Are inventory?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean? Um? Really, just like your
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: show says like making money, you know, I I pretty
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: much made six figures in like one month, and you know,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: it was just shocking because I went from these money
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: making conversations that is why you own this show, Latasha,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: six figures and one month from a person who lost
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: a job during the pandemic. That is truly, truly unders
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: You know, things happened for a reason, and we we
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: that's a cliche. That's a cliche. You always say things
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: happened for a reason, and so here you are. You're
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: a photographer, and then you got laid off from your
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: job during the pandemic. And the month of June, someone
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: told Beyonce about your product. Somebodey was impressed. Someone knew
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you had value, and she posted you on her website,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: posttat you to her Instagram account. I remember when it
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: came out. You know, Beyonce's an amazing person. I'm from Houston, Texas.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: She's from Houston, Texas. I know Beyonce. She's a true,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: true rebel to the cause, and she is true blackness
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: and to be featured like that. But more importantly, she's
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: just not a black artist. She's an international artist. So
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're the impact of her. You being on
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: her website was an international impact. Correct, Yes, definitely. I
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: sold in countries that I've never sold in before. Um,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I definitely. I went from you know, not
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: knowing where my next paychecks was gonna come from to this,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's overwhelming. That's definitely a blessing. Now,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: what's next step for you? My friend? You know, you know, artists.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: We didn't talk a little bit about that because I
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: went to your website page and you're an incredible artist.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: It almost seems like your work on these skateboards and
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: your clothing, it's really like stuff. If I don't if
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a skateboard artist, I could frame your skateboard
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: and put it on the wall. It's almost like art. Yeah,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: and that's my goal with it, because like if you
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: look at other skateboarding brands, you know, a lot of
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: them just you know, they'll put their brand name, their
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: logo and that's it. And you know, I didn't really
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: like that at all. I wanted to do something different
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, really just just stand out from
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: the things that these other brands were doing. Um. The
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: next thing that I want to do, Um, I've got
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: some collapse coming up. Definitely get some new designs out.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people ask me to do
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: longboards and cruisers, so, you know, just getting out new
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: styles and I I'm looking at spaces. I want to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: do a retail so because all right now I just
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: have a small area that I work out of, but
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I agree with that within the last month. Definitely needs
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: some more rooms, well, yeah, you know, you know your
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: six figures. Now we can but let's let's be smart here.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Let's be fart smart here. Okay, you your space is working.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: You was able to generate six figures of income out
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: of that. Okay, your online Okay, that means you don't
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: have the paper right anywhere, You don't have to pay
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: an insurance anywhere, you don't have to hire security or
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: hire some extra staff to sell because they may not
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: sell why they're there, because online is really amazing. So
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: so how can you maximize or how are you trying
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: to maximize your online growth growth through sales and exposure? Um, well,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm really just getting more content together. Um
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: We're working on a skate video right now, and then
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I've got my skate team that I work with, you know,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: really just filming new material with all the new designs
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. Um yeah, just working with them on new
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  Speaker 1: content basically, you know, ramping up this marketing, getting that ready,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: trying to be more official with my stuff. You know
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: before it was mostly a mixture of like users supended
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: videos and not really like original content. So you know,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: definitely coming out with more of my own original stuff
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: with the girls that I work with. Well, I'm talking
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: to Latasha Stone. She's the founder proper Nor. That's like
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: gnarly Nor. If you know that's a great that's a
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  Speaker 1: She's the founding artists Latasha Stone now on twenty third
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  Speaker 1: thing in Ohio. This is the beauty of her, her brain.
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  Speaker 1: She's born and raised in Ohio. She was educating Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: She learned how to skateboard in Ohio. Her brain has
• 1:27:56
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  Speaker 1: black parade rectory for black owned business. She woke up
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  Speaker 1: and she realized that she was a social media star.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking to a one man operation here,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: am I talking? Because it's I wonder who else are
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  Speaker 1: helping you right now? I know you you got laid off,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: got your job went away. Who are what is part
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: of your team that's making you successful right now? Um? Well, honestly, like,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I've got two people that work with me right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I just hired them here recently. But um I
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  Speaker 1: got my friend that's helping out with social media, and
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: then um I got my other friend that's helping out
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  Speaker 1: with a customer service and then we all work on
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: shipping and stuff like that. So yeah, I definitely got,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty solid team behind me. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: that also skate that I've known forever that I can
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  Speaker 1: actually like afford to pay now to work with me
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: is key because you know when people when you when
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  Speaker 1: you go viral and they know are you're making money,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: it's the handshakes and the high fives go away. What
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: is the You have the Underground brand new line of colorful, creative,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and original skateboards that average fifty five is sixty dollars
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: each and can be audited on the company's website along
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: with the artists on unique artwork, prints, accessories, and apparel.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: What sets a price for a good quality skateboard? And
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: you are you? You? Because I don't really see you
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: as competing with other brands, because I feel I see
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: you as a as a high profile, niche brand that
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: can only grow as much as you put into it.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. I try to set my prices to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: where people can still afford them. But also, you know,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: my designs are different than everybody else's, so I kind
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: of have to take that into consideration as well. You know,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: being a small business, you know, you have these other
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  Speaker 1: companies where they can purchase you know, thousands of units
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: of inventory and get it at like a lower price
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  Speaker 1: because they're purchasing in such like a huge amount. And
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  Speaker 1: um yeah, so I haven't really been able to do
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  Speaker 1: that until here recently. So that's also reflected in my
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  Speaker 1: price as well. But um, also you know, I I
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  Speaker 1: want to get um, different types of people in a
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  Speaker 1: skateboarding I like to work with beginners and also like
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  Speaker 1: you know, people from like less privileged areas, and so
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  Speaker 1: I also want to keep it affordable for people like
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  Speaker 1: that also because you know, if you go to like
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  Speaker 1: a bigger skate shop, you can spend up to like
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: two to three dollars getting your whole set up together,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, if you're just starting out, you may
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  Speaker 1: not want to spend that much because you know what
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  Speaker 1: if you spend all that and then you don't like
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  Speaker 1: it and you just drop like three dollars on this
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: thing that you're not going to use. So I definitely
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: take that into consideration when making my prices. Again again, Natasha,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: you've used some language that I have to be educated on.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: You said the set up. Okay, what exactly is to say?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's pads on your al old pads on
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  Speaker 1: your need to helmet and a skateboard. What what are
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: you calling a set up? Um? Yeah, some people do
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: where the paths and the help and all that, but um,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: what I was referring to is up. You have the
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  Speaker 1: skate deck, and then you have the trucks, which is
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: what holds the wheels on. And then you have the wheels,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: you got the bearings. Um, your hardware which is like
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: the screws that holds all that on. And then you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: have grip tape, which is ah, it's kind of like
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: a standpapery material that goes on top of the skate
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: deck and uh that like helps keep your feet like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: stuff to it when you're doing your tricks and stuff. Yeah,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: so you gotta you can either buy it all separately
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: and put together, or um, I'll have complete in the
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: shop here next month where you can just pull it
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: all the box and it's all put together and you
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: can just hop on it and go wow. Now here's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: a little note here. The products you created are created
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  Speaker 1: with teen girls and young women in mine who love
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: the skate or wo and into alternative of servasive fashion
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: subversis fast fashions. Well, what do you mean when when
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: you said teen girls and young women who love to skate?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Are your boards smaller or the handlet particular weight? Can
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: teen boys do it? Wow? Talk to me about that.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Are just the designs on the skateboards just promote teen
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: girls and young women? It's more so, um, the designs
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: that are more aimed towards women. Um, but yeah, the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: sizes can be for anybody. Um, if you're our girl
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: or a woman, you they usually order the smaller sizes,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: So I do tend to stop more of those. But yeah,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: it's more like the When I say that, I mean
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: more towards the designs and the style of things that
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: I designed. It's aimed towards women. Is that way? Absolutely? Absolutely?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: And my last question is about your show. Was your
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: skateboards was featured on an HBO show? Mm hmm, Yeah,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: it was featured on Betty Um it's this show that
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: just came out in May and it was Gonna Spio
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• 1:33:03
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• 1:33:07
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• 1:33:10
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• 1:33:13
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• 1:33:18
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• 1:33:23
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  Speaker 1: Section eight people. So explain why did you decide to
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: have that part of your business model. People on the
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: on the indie Section eight platform. Uh, you know what
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: they say about those people is really just, um, it's
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: here thing. So you know, you can't get advice from
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: people that's not really in the business. So the people
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: that are really in the business, they enjoy sectionate to
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: what the section vouchers. The thing about Section it is
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: the people that has all those headaches, that all those
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: people and these landlords that accept the first person. So
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: it's the same as if you're written into a regular family.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: You don't just take the first person. You have to
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: do all you do diligence. So it's the same with SECTIONIC.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: So you put your application out there, you put your
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: problem out there for rent, and then a lot of
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: people start calling you, texting your Hey, I'm interested in
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: this property. Of course you're not gonna accept the first person,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: so you gotta do your property diligence, do your background check,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: check the job check, their credit. Um called their former landlord,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: things like that. So if you follow the steps, you
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: can usually get yourself a good tent. Now you get
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: you know, you get the person that said they got it.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: That's typically a bad tent because you're not doing nothing
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: your research on that person. I understand what you're saying here.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: You're saying Rashan, Look, they're bad apples in a batch. Okay,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: you don't out there and don't do your like like
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like you're trying to hire good employee. You're
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: any person you call their references and you go on
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: their social media that he got some crazy pictures on
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: social media. That might not be the person you want
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: to hire. So the same thing here, So the same
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: thing here. You have to do the same thing with
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: these individuals. It's not about a stigma than being in
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: section age. It's the people out there who are trying
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: to live a better life, trying to step up, trying
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: to get into a better environment for their kids, for
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: their families, and your your situation and enables that. And
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: it's worked out pretty well for you. And you're based
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: in Lafayette, Louisiana. Correct, Yes, sir, that's my market. That's
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: your market now, are you looking to expand out of
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: that market? You're just gonna dominate, laughing, Louis, He's gonna
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: be the king of Lafayette. That's what you're trying to do. Yeah,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to take over a little bit. So it's
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: currently my market to laft right in the market market.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: So if anybody doesn't know where laugh he had left
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: head is right on I T N E S. And
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: what he just said is you go just go straight
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: down I ten ees heading from Houston, Texas. Okay, just
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: going down there, you're gonna hit laughy at first, then
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have the capital that's baton rouge. Then you're
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: gonna slide right on end to New Orleans. So he's
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: he's really going down there. I called him. I'm gonna
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: call him the gumboat, the gumbo real estate man, right
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: because he's doing the gumbo. Bro. He controlling all the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: gumbo right there, Mr Parker, and that we're good. Well,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: you know I was. I want to talk about you
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: getting started this business because there's so many TV shows on,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Flip that, Flip dead by this. Yeah, people
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: coming to town talking about you can get rich if
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: you listen to their model and how you can get
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: into the real estate game. Now you yourself. When I
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: was reading your bio, he said, you started watching YouTube videos.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: That's how you got in the real estate game. Correct, yes, sir,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: yes sir. And so UM, I started my business back
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: in two thousands sixteen, is around November, I closed my
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: first deal. So I started my business with sixty three dollars.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: So you know all the YouTube videos that watches like
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: you can get into real estate with little money or
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: no credits. So you know, I want to figure it
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: out and see that's true. So um, I ort to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: miss some blank signs, so you know the political signe
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: that you say like both for this guy or whatever,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: those type of signs. But I ordered the blink one
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: and I wrote we buy houses on them. So I
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: put those signs out within three weeks and made two
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars and then um hold on the park right,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: So I got a couple of houses. And because I
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: live in both cities and different cities, you know, I
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: always get these these cards people mailing me, calling me
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: talking about I buy my house, we'll buy your house,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: we'll buy your house, you know, and I have to
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: ignore them because I'm not selling my house. So you
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: just said you had some signs, like those little political
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: signs that you see people stick in the yard, and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: you put we buy houses, and then you jumped to
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: saying you made two thousand dollars. Now there are some
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: steps that you missed that we have to say on
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation dot com. So you put the sign out,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: you put the sign out, you you put on that
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: neatly rope we buy home, we buy homes, or we
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: buy houses. What happened after that? All right? So basically
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: I did my marking. The strategy that I've used to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: do that was called hotelling, which hotelling is if you're
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: advertising to distress sellers. So people that have gone through
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: the vorce, Um, they have two in the pairs. You
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: can't fix long grass, covilation. Uh, there's a bunch of
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: different things. So I'm marking into direct directly to distress sellers.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: So I put those signs up market and we buy houses.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Started getting phone calls. Um, there was a father and
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: the son. The house just got flood. That was in
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: the Bad Bois market at the time. We had a
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: big flood in two thousand sixteen. So the house was flooded.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: They had flood insurance, so they got they checked there
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: was just ready to settle house. So I went to
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: the house, offered them seventy thousand. So the a r
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: V at the house was just called after repair you
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: have to order repairs and done like a brand. House
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: was about two hundred and thirty thousand. So I got
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: under contract seventy thousand. And then I saw that pizza
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: paper to another investors for seventy two thousand, how many
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: two thousands on the deal? And that's called hostel in
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: real estate, okay, okay, And so that person gets the house,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: they pay seventy two thousand four and they can sell
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: it wherever they want to sell it. That right, right,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: So typically they buy it for me for seventy two thousand,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: they put all the repairs into it. Let's just say
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: they all in that one fifty and they sell us
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: for two twenty and they make a profits. Now you
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: got all this from a YouTube video, Yes, sir, I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: feel not just want to see you. Okay, Now, what
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: motivated you to go to YouTube? Because you hear all
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: these commercials on TV, you know, buy this or dialoade
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: this and go to a webinar. Would you recommend people
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: going to YouTube to learn about how to get in
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: the real estate business, I would say me and myself,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: I'm cheap, so that's the first step for me. Let's
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: see all the information I can find free first and
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: to see if I'm really interested in because why I
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: pay money if you don't even know if you're interested
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: in that type of thing. So that's my that's my idea.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: And you know, and uh, YouTube is like a big university,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: have pretty much everything anything you need. You know, if
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: you need a six of cards on there, you want
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: to buy a house or learn to trying to buy
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: houses on there. So I always say that's the first step.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: You google YouTube, figure out what it is. You know,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: if you're really interested, then you know, take the next step. Pay.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Somebody has been through it, there's know what to do,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: and then you go from there. Well, it's an interesting
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: thing about it. First of all, I don't want to
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: you can say because you cheap, that's I'd say you're
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: smart because of the fact that technology. And I always
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: tell that too, because my predominant artist is African Americans,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: and sometimes we don't take advantage of what technology provides us.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: You know, and you know, and the research is out
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: there for free as long as you have WiFi, as
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: long as you and you can do this on your phone.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: If you got your cell phone, you're doing your cell
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: phone so you can know. You don't have to go
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: get a laptop or go get a computer or you
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: go to a tech store. You can do this on
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: your phone and educate yourself. And these were just YouTube
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: and you just went on YouTube. Just Google you real
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: estate or what did you do on YouTube that you
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: was able to get you to to the right videos.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna break down the story. So I was
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: twenty one, my first house. Nobody told you to do this.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: You just decided to do this on your own. Yeah.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: So the reason being I was living in last at
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: the time and my job was in bed Rouge and
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't like the drive, so I want
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: to live close to my job. So I went um
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: straight from my parents house to my own host. I
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: was just uh looking in the area looking for the
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: house about I couldn't really find anything, and I've seen
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: the house that they just pulled a slab. So I
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: got with a developer. We got together and finished the
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: house and then that's how I did that. And I
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: purchased that house with f h a loan which is
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: three and a half percent down. And then a year
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: after that, I was just on YouTube again searching how
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: to make more money. And then uh, real estate keep
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: popping up, and then hotels popped up, and then I
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: took off from there. And that's how that happens. You
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: just took off from there, and now you have over
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: two million dollars and real estate property. Yes, yes, and
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: you you you do. You leave that so many parts
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: because you talk your fast talker too. I could tell
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: that to you. You you you talk quick now and
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: so you're just slowing you down. Because I'm a Texas boy,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I like for people to talk especial when you talk
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: about money. That's when you're talking about money, what you
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: can't do and say, well, you know, I went from
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: sevent me to seventy two and now I got two
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: million dollars. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. You know
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: you can't do me like that. You can't do that,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: you can't do But listeners like that because they had
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: to beat some something like some slow down moments. So
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: oh no, wow, that wasn't a good move there, Wow,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: because you am I not everything has been a solid success. Nah,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot more to it all. This
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: really starts from the beginning, which is what your mindset.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: You know, if your mindset is not right, you can't
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: do none of this stuff I'm talking about. So that's
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: the first step. What I had to do is I
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: had to focus on what I want to do, realize,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: you know, what I want to do with my family. Well,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I realized what I want to do myself, and just
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: cool off a little bit for like two years. I
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: stay lost in read books podcast. I'm not really a
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: clever type of person, so I wasn't really going out
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: of anything. I wasn't really talking to friends. I was
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: just spoken on what that to do. And that's how
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: it really, that's how everything happened. How it to go off. Well,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize that they have to
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: sacrifice a lot of things to get what you really wants,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people are not ready for that.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to talk about. Because everybody wants
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: that that Ferrari, everybody wants that diamond ring, everybody wants
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: that fat bank account. But there are sacrifices that you
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: have to make, and we make those sacrifices, there has
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: to be a goal in mind as to why you're
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: making those sacrifices. And that's what we're talking about because
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: you start, you made that that conscious decision at twenty one,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: and we all know twenty one mindset is to you know,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: to be out the club and party and hanging, and
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: you decided to know this is, uh, this is an
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: opportunity to better my life. But you now are you?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Are you working a full time job? Now? Is real
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: estate all you do? Yeah, I say my full time
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: job as well. But the thing about my job is
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: pretty easily exactly twenty of a week, works like maybe
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: two hours a day. So found that dead job. I'm
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: still working real estate as well. That's that's they don't
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. A lot of people don't like
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: their jobs or like what they do, but they're not
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: really maximizing all the time they do have to get
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: out the job that they don't want to have. So
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: you can't really be at your job complaining. Are they're
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: not really doing nothing about it? After you get off
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: of work or doing your lunch break, and um, that's
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: how I started, so while was that work, wasn't doing anything,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: got on my computer and got to work and they
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: started calling people making deals happen. And then that's how
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: it all happened for me. And then after work, I'll
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: go to sleep at like ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, work
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: ab at three or full five in the morning to
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: do the same thing over and over again. And as
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: the things I was telling you about, a lot of
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: people not really sacrifice all their time to learn and developing,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: but uh time and working to their business. They rather
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: um after work goes hang out at the ball, go
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: play softball, play the video games and things like that. Man,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: that's hindering your growth. If you're not really all in
• 1:54:52
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making Conversations. I'm your host R
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Well, wow, and that's all. That's all I
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: tell people money making conversation is there's a technique to success,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: and your technique is saying luke, I can I can
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: paint you an easy story and tell you that you
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: know that you can do this too. But this is
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: not cut out for everybody. This is, this is and
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: that's why you said yourself, you wasn't really cut off
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: for this, so to speak. That's why you said, Rashan
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: on the reel, I went this direction because I didn't
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: want to spend any money. That's why I went to YouTube,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: which was really smart because YouTube, like you said, you
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: can want to learn how to fix your car, you
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: want to learn to make a cake, you want to
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: learn how to how to make a rocket, you want
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: to learn how to be a marathon runner, you can
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: go to YouTube. It's on there. Just type in, just
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: type in search and a lot of options will pop up.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: And so that's what you did. And so now with
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: that being said, but also I like the fact was
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: that I always tell people that if you have a
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: full time job to follow your dream, that doesn't mean
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: necessarily you should quit your full time job, and in
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: fact you should. You should try to marry the you
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: and try to realize I'm a statement I said all
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: the time. But Parker, is this, If you have twenty
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: four hours in a day, learn to take advantage of
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: every hour. And that's what you did. And you said, look,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: I got a nine five, I get up at three
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: or four, or my lunch break I called somebody. Since
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: I get a work I called somebody. Now has has
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: that led to any complications? Because I know you said
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: your job is unique. It allows as you do that.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: But what if somebody was a banker or bank working
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: at a bank, or or working at a typical ninety
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: five that tells you that you have to come to work,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: you have to do things nine to five, because they
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: still accomplished what you're trying to make happen on neil
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: of course, So let's say you said nine to five,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: So what are you doing between seven eight thirty? You
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: gotta think you might have to wake up a little earlier,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: said with a little later, so you can do a
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: lot of things. Just how committed all you to do
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: what you want to do now there's always, of course,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: you'd be working nine at least get out of lunch break,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: so you know, go Sydney card, don't really tell boy,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: don't tell everybody what you're doing, because of course they're
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: gonna gonna go around the office and then that might
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: be a problem. So you gotta post it in lock
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: in and then do what you gotta do. Now with
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: that being said, you've written a book because you need book.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: I mentioned it in my opening introduction to you. It's
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: called Interest Free Money Guide. What exactly is that book
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: about and why did you write it? So that book
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: is really about business credit and teaching our communities, the
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: black community about um utilizing and leveraging the credit scores,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: because many people have good credit and don't know what
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: to do with it, or they have good credit don't
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: own anything. So basically, this book is teaching how to
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: leverage your credit scores to get interest free moneys from
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: the banks, to investing yourself, your business or some type
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: of thing, some type of investment to make you more
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: money by leveraging the bank's money, which is called OPM.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: Also reference to other people's money because a lot of
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people hear other people's money,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: but they really don't understand what it is. Other people's
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: money is everybody else's money other than your own. So me, myself,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: I teach people how to leverage the bank's money and
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: you can get big lines of credit fifty too, you know,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: twoift dollars per LLC and it could be a brand
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: new LLC. A lot of people in our community that
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: has no knowledge of that. So it was my goal
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: to write the book to teach people about that because,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, a lot of people don't know
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: about it and we need to start taking advantage of
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: it because the other communities have been doing that for
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: a while, and that's what we're behind because we don't
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: know any better. Now how do we get there? Now
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: you're on my show, might to make a conversation? Are
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: like you said, I have a newsletter. If you don't mind,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: I'd like to drop this information about you. My news
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: letter goes out to ninety thousand people. And what what
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: would you say? Is? So you know, if I had
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: to write copy about you and dropping in the newsletter,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: what would you say will be like three sentences I
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: shouldn't include in the copy about you in regards to
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to do with your book. Okay, So
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: I'll say, Um, the reason you need this book is
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: because is giving you access to thousands of dollars that
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: you can use to make more money for you, your
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: family and your kids and generations to come. That's all
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: it is, basically, And how did you find out about it?
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: Just just too you know, first of all, look let's
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: look back to you, because you what are you? Am
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: I wrong? In that age years old, twenty one years
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: of age, you were trying to find out who you were,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: all right, because you want YouTube and you file these
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: real estate videos. You looked at them. You said, I
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: can do something. When I got your home in bad
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Rouge and did a wholesale deal, made two thousand dollars.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: This is now, We're twenty and the middle of a pandemic.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: You have two million dollars of valued property out there.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: You have good unners or some of them are Section
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: eight people. They're loyal, You do your research. You you
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: have creed, You have a personality that have said that
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a ninety five, but you're
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: still holding on to your nine. How does how can
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: one say? How did you figured this out? O'Neil? I
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: got you, got you? So it's really uh, I'm a
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: learned term thinking, long term planning, so I know my
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: job uses me, so I do everything I can to
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: use them. So you've got to realize that banks like
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: people that have uh, two weeks checks was just considered
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed check. Banks that were like entrepreneurs because they
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: don't know where the next check is coming from. The
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: next check is not guaranteed, so I know, um, I
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: want to buy Reynolds, build my past of income to
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: of course to place my job, maybe even double my
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: job income. So when I do quit, I have those
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: two year tax returns with my business, and I have
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: my assets to pay for everything that I'm trying to do.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I kept my job. I
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: still have my job because it's a lot easier to
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: get funded from banks and private lenders, hard money lenders
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: and things that need So it's all about long term
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: thinking and planning for the future, not just for now.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: So I see what you're saying as an entrepreneur, Like
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: you said, people don't know there's no guarantee because you
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: are what you say, an entrepreneur. But because you have
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: a four time job, they see a steady check, a
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: guaranteed check. It means that could be a guaranteed commitment
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: to making that monthly payment. Exactly, you gotta look good
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: to the banks. You gotta look look exactly how the
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: people that's letting you the money wants you to look
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: to get the money that they're trying to live. So
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: I figured that out and I just kept my job,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: so I could have quit my job. So going back
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: to the beginning of my story, I started to business
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: sixty two thousand and three weeks I mean fifty thou
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: and four months. So at that time I was making
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: like sixty sixty sixty five thousand a year. But net
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: that's really like party to forty five thousand years. I
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: mean more of my part time jobs than my full
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: time job. And most people just walk away. But because
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: see what I think about the long term game, they
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: think about right now. We're just the downside of being
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. If there is a downside to being an entrepreneur,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: because as you said, I'm sure dude, you can do
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: you get help benefits with your four time john, Yes, okay, go,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: so you gotta help benefits. You don't have to worry about.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: You know that check is gonna be coming to you
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: on a regular basis. You know it. It's like a clock.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: What is the downside of being an entrepreneur compared to
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: a person who's living both lifestyles? Right now, O'Neil, you're
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: a full time employer and you are basically a full
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: time entrepreneur, So you get to tell me exactly the
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: benefits of being a full time person and the benefits
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: of being a full time entrepreneur, because you clearly have
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: figured out the twelve hours and giving this and twelve
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: hours to give to this, and I'm gonna sleep somewhere
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: in between. Yeah. So the benefits of both is of
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: course what I said earlier, the funding and everything with
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: the job, uh insurance, you can also leverage your full
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: one k so I do that as well. Um, so
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: going towards the fulling kids, like, your job is giving
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: you whatever the match six percent you put in the thing.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: So now you're building uh A saving a cause or
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: something like that with the company. So I did, uh
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: maybe like a month ago. I took half of it out.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: So right now with the coronavirus, you can either depend
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: on your company. You can take all your going call
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: not have a penalty. But I only took half of
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: which is a loan to myself. Put that in real
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: estate and make more money with it, and then I'm
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: really just paying myself back with interest. So you can
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: leverage your job that way. Um. The other benefits of
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur is I don't really need the job,
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: so I don't have to work over time. I don't
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: want to. I just worked my party I was in Gone,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: so I'm not really tied down to having to go
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: over there. So that's another benefit of it. Uh. And
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: also just um building my freedom, leveraging my job to
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: make me more money, change my um, you know, change
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: my lifestyle. So that's the huge benefit. Leverage them. What
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: it leveraging me in a partnership right now? Absolutely? Absolutely?
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: And so being an entrepreneur you have to be self motivating,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Oh and do you work with any other
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: people in achieving your success story right now? And from
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneurship or entrepreneurial side of the table, Yeah, So
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: you know have kind of ability partments to have friends,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of friends out there. Uh. Just started another
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: business in Janue. Where are my business partner Mr Tyrn?
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: So we helped we hold each other kind of book.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: Of course we both have to play out partunate the
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: business sceeed. So that's a big part of uh the growth.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: And we're start another hostealing business. So I stopped within
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: those four months that we talked about earlier, we started
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: one again in January. Reason we started this business because
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: we're both looking at the future, want to uh the
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: generational by more properties. So we're starting another holestealing business.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: Keep our pipeline full so we can pick out the
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: best properties to you know, either flip or run out
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: for that long term wealth. Wow. In your book, you
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: know the book we needs reading us, any book that
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: you can get, Uh, it's called interest Free Money Guide.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: You're saying that in this book, you teach us how
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: to access interest free credit on twelve or fifteen business
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: credit cards. Talk to us about that, all right. So
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: the thing about the business credit is you don't need
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: much to get it. So you just need an LLC
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: E I E n uh seven hundred credit score. Sometimes
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: it could be six or eighty. So we just will
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: tell up seven hundred less than like five harding cards
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: in the last six or twelve months, and then you're
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: really good to go. And when one personal credit card
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: five dollars or more. So, if you meet all those requirements,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: you can get fifty again fifty to two d fifty
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: thousand prayer le see interest free twelve to fifty months
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: or the same as cast. If you don't how to
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: make money off of a fifty thou interest free money this. Uh,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: this really isn't for you, So I don't recommend it
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: to everybody. Recommended for people that is responsible and has
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: a plan to buy assets or invest the money and
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: something else has got to make them more money. You know,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: if you want to get this to buy a car
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: or something like that, it's not the book for you.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: So you know, if you have a seven hundred credits
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: for you have a plan you just are defunding, it's
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: definitely something you need to get. Wow. Talking to O'Neil Parker,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: he's based in Laughing at Louisiana. Uh, got that little
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: gumbo runs. He's doing real estate from Lafayette, Baton Rouge
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Um, here's an exciting book, um that
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: it's an e book. It's called Interest Free Money Guide.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: It's an e book is written to educate you on
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: business credit. And that's what we're talking about on the
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: call today on money making conversations. UM. So are you
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: comfortable with me putting your book or link into my
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: newsletter that goes out to ninety thousand people on Wednesday? Yeah,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: of course of course. And I can also see the
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: link before they can before they can buy. You know,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: if anybody else's on here. You have any coursetion of
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: anything I can follow on Instagram or Neil Oh and E. L. J. Parker,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: And you got any questions you have to shooting a message? Yeah,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: you can definitely put on that. Oh definitely will I'm
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: til I'm and try to give away your book now,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: he said, I get a link on so you can
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: uh you know they can buy it. I'm trying to
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: sell you. You don't want to make you guy, This
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  Speaker 1: ain't free money making conversation dot com money making comes
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: say dot com. And I'm just that you know, you know.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: I'm old in you, of course, and I'm always interested
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: in hearing different plans of success. And of course I
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: started at twenty one. I didn't have the technology that
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: you have today, and you seem to be wise enough
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: to understand that use the technology because it's free and
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: it's available, and it can It also can expand your
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: education because your education and the world of real estate
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: was self taught. Correct, Yes, sir, of course. Well, my friends,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on my show.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: Man's a great conversation again. Uh we will. My staff
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: is gonna reach out to you and get those links
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: and get some more photos and some some some more
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: information so we can put it in this week newsletter.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: I'm wanna thank you for coming on Money to Make
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: a Conversation or Neil Parker, Hey man, I appreciate you
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: some man. You know what I said, I gotta will
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: be here absolutely. And I know you're saying you're starting
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: your business in September and January again, right, a new
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: business in January time frame? Right, we started in January
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: twenty point this year. Okay, great, great, great. I'll tell
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: you what what we're gonna do in your anniversary. We're
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: gonna bring you back on the January so we can
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: talk about how that first year went, went through the pandemic,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: coming out of the pandemic, and we're talking about how
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: you looking to January. Is that all right? I'm ready
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: for that as well as the fans one that I'm
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: here for us. Man. I appreciate you, my friend, Thank
• 2:09:31
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• 2:09:33
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