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It's been a minute. It has been a minute. Oh,
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as we record, fucking UFC Freedom 250 is on my
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In the news, Oscar De La Hoya. sends a cease
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and desist to Dana White and Zufa regarding Conor
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Benn and Ryan Garcia. DAZN also sends a cease
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and desist. I'm wondering what... Are they just
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telling Dana White, like, hey, you're going to
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have to work with us because we have the rights
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to Ryan Garcia's events? Yeah, like, it's probably
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something to do with tampering with fighters.
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Yeah. Depending on how those contracts are laid
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out. Do you guys think that fight's still going
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to happen? The Conor Ben, Ryan Garcia fight after
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this? Yeah, I think so. I think so. It's just
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not going to be... Like, I think a lot of it
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is that, like, Zufa is using, like, the likeness
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of Ryan Garcia to, like, prop up their guy. Their
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guy being Conor Ben. That's right. right so it's
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like it's a lot of like you're promoting your
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promotion that we hate using the likeness of
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our guy so oh did michael chandler just get finished
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he did he did just get finished sorry this is
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it's related to dana white uh it is related to
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dana white uh still yeah like not making promotional
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materials uh without having consulted golden
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boy in the zone Yeah. Makes sense. I mean, if
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you want to have the top guys competing with
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your people, your Zufa people, you're gonna have
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to play nicely. Unfortunately for you, it's gonna
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be difficult, Dana. I don't mind it. I'd mind
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it if it were, like, traditional boxing promotions,
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but... I mean, it's Zufa, so... Hmm. Floyd Mayweather
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is suing a former manager for $175 million. The...
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What was it? The justification or whatever was
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that... The allegation was that his manager,
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I forget his name, but the manager was a mediator
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for a deal where Floyd pawned some jewelry for
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some amount. It was several million dollars.
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It was quite a bit. And Floyd claims he never
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got the money. But the manager has a picture
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of Floyd receiving the money. So, not sure what
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he's trying to accomplish here. Better luck next
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time, buddy. Well, the next time is Showtime
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countersuing him. For $340 million. I wonder
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why that's such a specific number. It's quite
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a bit more than $486. It's quite a bit more.
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But that's crazy. He's so broke. It's such a
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departure from being the poster child of retired
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and kept all his money. He was the chosen one.
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He was. You start to understand why Al Heyman
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had trusts set up for all those fighters to not
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do this. To avoid situations exactly like this.
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I don't think Showtime took the initial suing
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lightly, and I don't think that they would launch
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a countersuit. If they weren't intending to actually
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pursue it. I don't think it's just like lawfare.
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Them messing with each other. Exactly. Yeah,
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this isn't going to go well for Floyd. Sorry,
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buddy. What will go well for Zufa Boxing 9? The
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doubleheader of Richardson Hitchens versus Ricardo
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Salas at welterweight. And Edgar Berlanga and
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Stephen Butler, they're doing that one at super
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middleweight. That's a fun card, guys. Come on.
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We're going to watch that, all right? Come on.
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We're going to watch it because of our professional
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obligation. Come on, guys. It's Edgar Berlanga
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and Richardson Hitchens. Come on, guys. For the
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record, didn't Zupa say they don't believe in,
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like, super middleweight woke nonsense? That
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is exactly correct. This is rough. Now, in actuality,
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this is a dire card. I don't want to watch Edgar
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Belonga and Richards and Hitchens on my pastime.
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That's such a matchroom rematch. Such a matchroom
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USA card. I know. It's stinky. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, I think the plan is to get Berlenga. up
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to Light Heavy and have him fight Hot Rod. At
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least that's what I read somewhere. Imagine he
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becomes the Zufa champion up there. Berlanga,
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the Zufa champion. No, I'm talking about Hot
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Rod. Oh, Hot Rod. Our goat, Hot Rod. He can become
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the Zufa champion. That's the only champion I
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see him getting. Zufa. Oh, man. I just think
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the continued existence of Hot Rod is really
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funny. It just keeps upsetting guys. You guys
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think Darnell Boone would have been a Zufa champ?
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Back in the day. Like, if Zufa was around back
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in the day, you think it would have been Darnell
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Boone? Most definitely. The ultimate knock -you
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-down guy? Knock -you -out guy, didn't he? Yeah,
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he took out Adonis Stevenson, didn't he? He decked
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Andre Ward, I think. Yeah, he dropped everyone,
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but I know he has the elephant in the room win.
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Yeah, second round TKO over Adonis Stevenson
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in 2010. Goodness gracious. I think Darnell Boone
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probably would have been. He has the... The one
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-touch power? Oh, yeah. Single knockdown power?
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Yeah. He's like the best journeyman ever, honestly.
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All right, well, now we're just talking bullshit
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when there's a Mr. David Allen that exists. No,
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he's a world -class guy. That's why he's not
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in the discussion. That's true. Facts. Isaac
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Chalemba? Oh, Isaac Chalemba. My sweet, sweet
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Isaac. Joe Joyce is going to be coming back.
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He will be returning in Moscow on July 11th.
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Did not see him making a return. In Moscow? Yeah,
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IBA Pro is the promoter. Sure. Might as well.
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What else does he have going on? I guess, bro.
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That's all I got to say, bro. What else does
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he have going on? Yeah, but IBA Pro in Moscow.
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No testing. Yeah, sure. That's probably why he's
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going back there. That's my thinking. Him and
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Jarrell Miller, no testing in Moscow. Shanada
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thinks he's being set up for Atama. Oh, that's
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such an ugly fight because it's not even like...
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You don't know the outcome. He's just regressed
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so much that it's just not fun. But I see the
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vision. It is rough. Realistically, Tama should
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be fighting Frank Sanchez. I can't even lie.
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I mean, do you think he's really ready for that
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champion level right now? I think Atama's more
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ready than Frank Sanchez is to hold a belt. I
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think 100 % he would beat Frank Sanchez. But,
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I mean, I just mean in talks to become Final
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Limited. I mean, he just fought. His name, Franklin.
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The thing is that, like, let's say Usyk is not
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fighting Sanchez. He vacates. The number one
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and number two guys are Frank and Atama. Yeah.
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So that's the fight that'd be made for the vacant
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belt. Honestly, I mean, that's a pretty easy
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fight for Aitama, I think. In my opinion, because
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he keeps his head off center line. It's also
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significantly less sad than Joe Joyce. Yeah.
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I mean, at least Frank Sanchez is a live body.
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Coming off a big win. Yeah, at least he's in
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the rankings. There's no purpose in sidestepping
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to fight Joyce. Whether you like it or not, he's
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beaten a top 15 guy within the last three years.
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A couple top guys, actually. Rest in peace, sweet
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prince Richard Torres. My goat. And a flight
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of angels sing thee to thy rest. Pro box. We
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had talked, I don't know. Did we talk about the,
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we did not talk about it because we didn't have
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a podcast when the, when the news broke. Yeah.
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So the rumor was that pro box was going to be
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fading away at the end of calendar year 26. And,
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uh, but that's not happening. Thank the fucking
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Lord. Um, yeah, I was going to kill myself. I
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was like, really? I wrote the article about watching
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pro box and getting shuttered. God damn it. So
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they are moving to the subscription model. Their
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reasoning, Gary Jonas, he said that it's so that
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they can pay guys like Lester Martinez, Najee
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Lopez, Ramon Cardenas, like those higher level
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guys, that they can pay them equitably. So I
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understand the vision. It's also going to be
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five bucks. That's cheap. I remember when they
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first, first launched. It was like $20 for the
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year. But they did away with that and they made
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it free for quite some time. And that was years
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ago. $20 was years ago too. Yeah, that was a
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long time ago. It kind of equates to $5 a month
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now. $60 versus $20. $5 a month is fair. That
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is not bad at all. Yeah, that's not bad. That
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is the price of the beer you crack open. I watch
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Provox, so... Not a big deal. They're scaling
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back their talk show. I think Shanada is a...
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She likes the Provox, like, their accoutrement,
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and so she watches the talk show, and they've
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been scaling back throughout the year already,
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so... They need to have, like, a Matan Evans
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setup, where it's just a couple mics and a folding
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table. ProBox, fucking hit us up. I'll be your
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talk show. We'll be your new broadcast team.
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We will do it for five bucks. We're just as good.
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Just give me a subscription and that's it. Yeah,
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like fly us out. If you fly us out to everything,
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we'll do it. Exactly. But yeah, so ProBox, not
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going anywhere. Thank goodness. ProBox is the
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goodness. Thank you. Good scene. Boxer signs
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a deal with DAZN. I know that the Brits were
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a little confused. Boxer will retain their deal
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with BBC for broadcasting in the UK. I think
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worldwide it'll be on DAZN. It's actually a pretty
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damn good deal for them. Considering how their
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stable is. Yeah, they got like three guys. This
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is pretty good. Why are... Sorry. The Freedom
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250 shit, there was a collection of Marines,
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and they weren't wearing the same uniform. Some
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of them were wearing dress, some of them were
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wearing service. And it's, uh... It's fucking
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irking me. How do you feel about this entire
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UFC event, Leo, considering that you were part
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of the military? I think it's kind of stupid
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that they're doing it on the White House lawn.
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If you want to put on a big show for, like...
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Here's something that is bothering me. Is that
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they keep saying on the broadcast that this is
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America's birthday. It fucking isn't. This is
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Flag Day. In 1777, the flag was adopted. That's
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it. The birthday is July 4th. Well, that's Trump's
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birthday. I know. But they're calling it America's
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birthday. Like, bitch, no, it is not. People
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make the argument that quote -unquote Trump is
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America. Come on, guys. Some fucking chud shit.
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I will respectfully disagree that Trump is America.
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Yeah, anyone who makes that claim can suck an
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egg. But Boxer signing with The Zone, I'm glad
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to see it. Another mid -level, high B -tier promoter
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is also on the network. We've got Eye of the
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Tiger, Boxer, Salida. Yeah. Plenty of guys that
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can now they can start interchanging with each
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other. I would like to see a star Starbucks and
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go to the zone. That'd be good. We've got Clarissa
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Shields versus Lauren Price in the works. This
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will be at middleweight. Sure. Sure. Yeah. It's
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somebody for Clarissa Shields to fight, so...
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Yep. That's cool. Pause. What are these AI -ass
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ads on fucking UFC 250, dude? I don't know. That's
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disgusting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You cut that
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out of the scene. No, it's okay. It's happening.
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It distracted me, dude. I'm sorry. It's literally
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happening as we record this. Like, this is just...
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Part of it. Okay, so they showed the Mount Suribachi
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footage. Cool. They showed the statue. Cool.
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But what is all this AI? They were doing a lot
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of AI slop, and it was really fucking lame. Why
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would you put an AI rendition of 9 -11? I don't
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get it. Wow. They had an AI video where the flag
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had like... 27 stars. Yeah. Absurd. That bears
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missing a couple heads, though. Katie Taylor
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sells out Croke Park. It's approximately somewhere
18:31
in the neighborhood of 80 ,000 seats. Sells it
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out within minutes of the sale going live. That's
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gotta be one of the biggest achievements in women's
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boxing of all time, right? I think so. Yep. Insane.
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Fuck. If anyone deserves this kind of send -off,
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it's Katie Taylor. Absolutely. Absolute trailblazer.
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Brought women's boxing into the zeitgeist. You
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couldn't not pay attention to Katie Taylor. Even
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when I was a fucking hardcore I didn't watch
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women's boxing though. So like the, I don't know
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if that's misogyny, but anyway, I, even I was
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like very acutely aware of Katie Taylor. And
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now, yeah, she's just, yeah. Now that I watch
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women's boxing like regularly, it's, uh, it's
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really fucking cool that she led the way. Last
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bit that's a bit of a question. Race Riot is
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happening 10 minutes away. No, we're not. That
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was not serious. There's no way this actually
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made it. There's no way this actually made it.
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starting with some select fights from Thursday.
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June 4th. Eye of the Tiger on DAZN. Just some
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ones that I wanted to point out. John Orobio
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stops Jonathan Montrell in four. Super Soldier
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Imam Kataev stops Mikhail Diallo in one. Yeah,
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and he got the first round stoppage. Fucking...
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Terrifying. Anyways. And the interim WBA light
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heavyweight title. Was won by Albert Ramirez.
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Split decision over Lerone Richards. Friday,
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June 5th. Pro Box at the College Park Center
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in Arlington, Texas. Let me pick just a few selects
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here. Figo Ramirez stops Roberto Tapia in three.
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That was... Quite an ass weapon. Malachi Ross
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fucking sparks Derek Whitley in the first. High
25:11
strangeness. Jose Kebkanul wins by disqualification
25:18
in the sixth. James Bernadine could not stop
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throwing low shots. Something that I noticed.
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Like the sequence, the disqualification sequence.
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Keb Kanu was holding and he was doing it. It
25:37
was pretty egregious. Like he was pinning the
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arms. You know what I mean? It's not like he
25:43
was just hugging or whatever. He was really fucking
25:46
like wrestling with Bernadine. Yeah, it was pretty
25:50
grimy. And then Bernadine throws a low shot.
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Not how you're supposed to handle the situation,
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but I understand the frustration. Yeah. The co
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-main, Weljon Mindoro, gets the UD over Elias
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Espadas. Weljon, not a bad up -and -comer. I
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think he's going to enter the upper echelons
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of the pro box stable. He's solid. And main event,
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Edward Vasquez, UD over Daniel Lugo. Let's see.
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Saturday, June 6th. Fucking D -Day. I didn't
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get to see the Kameda card, but did you guys
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see it? You see the Kameda card? Yeah. Yes. I
26:54
saw the main. Yeah, I saw the main as well. I
26:58
saw the main. I did not get the chance to see
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the undercard. I have these out of order. I just
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kind of put them in my personal preference of
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importance. Masamichi Yabuki retains the IBF
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flyweight title over Rene Calixto. Andrew Maloney
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upsets the apple cart. majority decision over
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IBF super flightweight champ Willie Baldo Garcia.
27:30
Michael Angeletti gets the split decision over
27:34
Kenneth Lover. That was an IBF eliminator. Kenneth
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Lover will be moving up. He did not look that
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good in his weigh -in pictures. And John Riel
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Casimiro knocks out Overweight Luis Neri. Hey.
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Hey. I don't want to brag. Brag? I did call it.
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No, I did call it. I did call it. I called it.
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I'm not going to act like I... Neri being overweight?
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I'm not going to act like I was, you know, 100
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% certain about Cosmero, but, you know, I had
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my... I had my hunch. And also with Andrew Maloney
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and Willo Baldo Garcia, with that fight, I mean,
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obviously, we know that Bam would have beaten
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Willo Baldo, right? After that performance. Yeah.
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Bam definitely would have been undisputed at
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115. If he could have waited one fight. Yeah.
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But, anyways, back to Kassim Roversenary. That
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was an interesting... That was an interesting
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performance. How ass is in a way. That's what
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we're saying here, not Neary Japan's number one
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op time immemorial. No, no, that's 100%. You're
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right. You're right. Neary is Japan's number
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one op time immemorial. If there is a way to
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disrespect the country, he will. By the good
29:21
graces of the JBC, Luis Neri gets to fight on
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Japanese soil again, and he blows weight. Immediately
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blows weight. That's so funny. The only saving
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grace is that he got knocked out for his trouble.
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Yeah, unlike last time where... He knocked out
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Shinsuke Yamanaka. And he also tests positive
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for PEDs? In the first fight, he tested positive.
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Then he blows weight and fucking knocks him out.
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Classic. Classic Neri. That gif of the knockout
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says, where are you Inoue? Fight the Pinoy Devil.
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That's such a good one. Yeah. Shannara admits
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it gets under her skin. So, keep spamming it.
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Well, Shannara is... Shannara admit that. Yeah,
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I was gonna say, you should not admit that, but
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okay. Moving to Matchroom at the Sheffield Arena.
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I only had two selects from this one. Leo Atang.
30:46
Gets the stoppage in one over Fuad Shiley. And
30:52
Josh Padley, split decision over Aqib Fiyaz.
30:58
He's a split decision. The gimmick keeps rolling.
31:02
Hey, last year... Hey, I gotta give it to Josh
31:04
Padley. Last year, he got beaten by Shakur, and
31:07
now he's headlining in an arena. Come on, guys.
31:11
This is the GOAT we're talking about. Yeah, this
31:13
is the... The people's champion. He's no longer
31:16
the people's champion. Zach Shelley is. Zach
31:22
Shelley actually beat the guy, too. Ultimate
31:29
upset. Yeah, I was like, if we're doing people's
31:32
champ, it's Zach Shelley. It's not even Josh
31:34
Padley anymore. Last thing. Zufa Boxing 7, their
31:49
first card outside of the Apex in Bournemouth,
31:55
England. There were actually quite a few nice
32:01
stoppages on this one. One of them, Sam Hickey
32:06
knocks out Todd Tompkins in the second. Alex
32:12
McMillan. Stops Leo Phantom in the second. I
32:18
will be sending him a strongly worded letter.
32:20
For fucking embarrassing me. Leon Hughes stops
32:27
Mario Vergiev in the third. Steve McKenna beats
32:32
the shit out of Casey Streeter. The knockout
32:37
streak ended with Ivan Ditchko getting squeaked
32:42
by Harvey Dykes. It's really fucking weird. Because
32:47
Harvey was like a meatball compared to Ditchko.
32:52
He's just got a weird -ass career, I can't lie.
32:58
Lee Cutler stops Aaron Sutton in three. Shavon
33:02
Clark rallies back to get Jack Massey out of
33:06
there in seven. I thought Shavon Clark was done.
33:10
Yeah, he looked cooked. Yeah. And CBS retires
33:18
Ryan Ruzicki after the 7th. Ryan Ruzicki needs
33:23
to retire, by the way. That's not a figure of
33:25
speech. That better be retire. You see the punishment
33:34
this man was taking? Yeah, he was getting his
33:36
shit fucking rocked. Oscar Rivas was doing the
33:43
same stuff. Like, they got a... Either his team
33:48
needs to pull him out sooner, or, like, this
33:51
is just not healthy for him. Like, this isn't
33:56
a retire your two shit. This is a retire, like,
34:00
you got life to live, buddy. You are not Jack
34:04
Dempsey. You're not going to be Jack Dempsey.
34:08
I knew Jack Dempsey, and you were no Jack Dempsey.
34:12
Yeah. I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, if you're getting
34:14
pieced up by, like, Oscar Rivas and Chris Billingsmith
34:17
that badly, like, you need... It's just not...
34:23
This is not good. Like, at some point, like,
34:27
you know what? Like, I will say, you can keep
34:30
watching a beating if there's, like, some semblance
34:32
of life in a guy. There was just nothing left.
34:37
It was looking like that when Morel almost killed
34:40
Yerben Azuli or whatever a couple years ago.
34:43
Oh shit, when he beat him into a coma. Yeah,
34:47
that's what it was looking like in the last round
34:49
or two and you're just like, this could have
34:52
been stopped like three rounds ago. Yeah, somebody
34:57
needs to be looking out for Ruzicki because he's
34:59
clearly not looking out for himself. Side note.
35:04
Who the hell let Josh Hawkins fight? I believe
35:10
he was a personal pick by him and both of these
35:14
guys. Derek Lewis and... Did you see him at the
35:16
weigh -in? No. He threw up all over himself at
35:21
the weigh -in. This guy's... He's a fucking clown.
35:26
That's why I was like, okay, who's letting him
35:28
fight if he's throwing... Like, this is... Okay.
35:31
Speaking of fighter safety, by the way. Well,
35:34
they're making him fire for a reason. We all
35:35
know why. He just broke into the floor. Yeah.
35:40
Oh, well. Oh, Saudi Arabia. Yeah, whatever. That
35:45
was just a side note, and I was just like, oh,
35:47
okay. Both of those are personal favorites of
35:50
Trump. Yeah. But, yeah, there you go. That's
35:57
Zufa Boxing 7. We have Dave Allen at home. Literally,
36:04
we have Dave Allen at home. Let me get the last
36:12
bit of notes. I think we're breaking glass at
36:15
the end of this one. Maybe. How much time do
36:20
we have right now? We are at 33 and a half minutes.
36:26
Nah, Josh and I got this. We got this, Josh and
36:28
I. Hey, we got some previews. And we're so excited
36:30
for Ashton, Sylvie, Jojo, Diaz. We're going to
36:32
pad this out. All right. Social media stuff.
36:36
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40:29
things first, Friday, June 19th, MF Pro at Thunder
40:33
Studios in LA. I don't recognize anyone outside
40:40
of the main event. Me neither, but we got this.
40:44
Yeah. Ashton Silva versus Joseph Jojo Diaz. 10
40:49
rounds at 140. Pedro Diaz. Yep. Pedro Diaz. Well,
41:00
this is going to be certainly... You know what?
41:05
Actually, no, I was going to say JoJo has no
41:07
power. I was going to say Lucas Body hits like
41:08
a horse, so it doesn't matter. This fight is
41:14
going to be another one in the long line of JoJo
41:18
Diaz fights where he gets dragged out because
41:22
he was a name. He was sort of a name in 2019.
41:30
If Sylvie doesn't put him out to pasture, what
41:34
do we even say? The H2O experiment is over. Not
41:40
that it ever really got going. Yeah, I was going
41:43
to say, we saw the experiment end already, but
41:45
he's on Misfits Pro, so how far is the experiment
41:53
really going? I don't know. I'm curious. How
41:57
did JoJo Deasy get caught again? Somebody outed
42:01
him for texting, sexting. It was some underage
42:08
girl. Teenager. Jesus. Yeah. Like, if you're
42:14
above the age of, like, 20 and actively using
42:16
Snapchat, like... You're a pedophile. You're
42:20
probably a pedophile. What, you're selling brownies?
42:28
What a terrible submission attempt, by the way.
42:30
Did you see that? I did, yeah. The fuck is happening?
42:34
Anyways. This guy's getting like... That's what
42:38
I'm saying. We have slop heavyweights at home
42:41
in boxing. Why do we need to watch them grapple?
42:44
Well, it's because we have to appease Isaac.
42:47
Isaac's in there right now. What are you talking
42:49
about? I didn't know Isaac was black. No, the
42:53
other one. Oh. I didn't know Isaac liked Trump.
42:57
That's not possible because Pokit isn't morbidly
43:01
obese. We were trying to get Isaac on the show
43:09
today. He was like, I'm busy all the time. You
43:13
gotta let me know a little closer in advance.
43:17
This is on a regular schedule. What do you mean?
43:20
It's the opposite weekend as the MMA show. It's
43:26
not that hard on the schedule. It's regular.
43:29
The schedule's regular. Yeah. It's only when,
43:32
like, stuff is going on. It only shifts by a
43:36
day or so. A day. No, literally a day, just in
43:41
either direction. Yep. Last preview, Saturday,
43:49
June 20th. Queensberry at the St. Mary's Stadium
43:53
in Southampton. This is headlined by Ryan Garner
44:00
vs. Michael Magnesi. I don't know who they are.
44:05
This is slop. This one is actual Brit slop. I'm
44:08
sorry, guys. Go for a walk. DM Lin if you want
44:16
the inside scoop. Take a walk. I can't lie. The
44:23
world is pretty beautiful. And this is not. Handily
44:30
not. Might be a good idea to enjoy the world.
44:37
Especially because the week after this one is
44:40
actually extremely good. Yeah. Enjoy some time
44:45
outside right now before Grime time next week.
44:49
Yeah. I... This was... It's a statistics sheet
45:02
that I got from someone in Discord. And I wanted
45:09
to share. I wanted to talk about it a little
45:13
bit. The current championship records. It's on
45:21
the website. It's the second newest. It's behind
45:25
the ProBox one. It has the... like how many fights,
45:30
title fights, fighters have been in and what
45:34
their win -loss records are. Yeah. And it's pretty
45:38
interesting. Read it by, read it by. Number one,
45:44
Naoya Inoue is 26 -0 in title fights. Canelo
45:49
is 23 -3 -1. Manny Pacquiao is 25 -3. 20, 5,
45:59
and 3. Not 25. See, this is all the active guys,
46:05
right? Yes. Somehow. Nonito Donair, 17 and 6.
46:17
And 5th is Kenshiro Toraji, 16 and 2. That's
46:25
crazy. That's interesting to see he's up there.
46:27
Yeah, Raji. Those lower weights tend to get a
46:31
ton of, like, the lower, lower weights tend to...
46:33
There's a lot of activity. They don't have the
46:37
luxury of avoiding title, like, unifications
46:40
and shit. Like, there's, like, I'm not saying
46:44
there's three guys in the weight class, but there's
46:46
three, like, name guys. Like, no guys? Yeah,
46:51
like, you gotta make the money somehow. Derek
46:57
Lewis just died. I'm watching him die. Yeah,
47:03
I was looking at Herb Dean, the ref. What more
47:06
do you want to see, dude? The soul left his eyes
47:10
already. Yeah, I don't know what else you want.
47:15
This is what I mean. Fighter safety is not a
47:19
thing with anything related to Dana White. Anyways,
47:27
shoutout KnockoutCPFreshmart14 and 2 in title
47:30
fights. The bottom... Should be 16 and 0. My
47:37
goat. The bottom one... The bottom few... Very
47:45
last, JazzaDickens at 0 and 3. DerekChizora 0
47:52
and 2. He only had 2? I know he had the Italian
47:55
Fury. I'm shocked he hasn't had any others. I
47:59
think he's had, like, interim, right? Yeah, you're
48:01
right. You're right. He's had a couple interim.
48:05
That doesn't count, but... Mario Barrios 0 -1
48:09
-2 is hilarious, by the way. 0 -1 -2. Mario Barrios...
48:16
Mario Barrios is probably one of the least accomplished
48:20
champions in recent memory. What do you mean?
48:23
He took Pacquiao to a definitely deserved draw.
48:28
Prime Pacquiao. You know what? You're not wrong.
48:32
You're not wrong. He took Pacquiao to a draw.
48:35
All the draw ones are just really funny to me.
48:38
Like, what the fuck is... Like, Lamar Roach Jr.
48:40
has a 2 -1 -2 record in title fights. Well, 2
48:46
-1 -2, but one was a robbery. Two of them were
48:48
a robbery for sure. Maybe. Yeah. I was going
48:53
to say, the tank one you can at least debate.
48:55
The one with Isaac Cruz, what are we doing? The
49:01
0 -1 category is fucking full. A lot of guys
49:06
in there. Arnold Barbosa. Dillian White, 0 -1
49:12
in title fights. Fucking excellent. Yep, this
49:20
is a... Certainly an all -star list. 4 -1 is
49:26
actually pretty interesting. 4 -1? The 4 -1 category
49:32
is pretty interesting. There's a lot of guys
49:35
who aren't otherwise connected. Foster and Fulton
49:40
in the same one, though. Yeah, Foster, Fulton,
49:43
Venado Lopez, and Caleb Plant. Like, all interesting.
49:51
Masamichi Yabuki should be moved up to 5 -1.
49:54
He just won his defense. Melvin Jerusalem should
50:02
be dropped down. AJ really is 9 -4. God damn.
50:13
Yeah. I know. That's a good list. Yeah. It's
50:18
a good list. It's always... It's always interesting.
50:24
Like, Munguia being 6 -1 -1 kind of kills me,
50:28
actually. But I know it's from that super middleweight
50:35
run that was, like, entirely fraudulent and created
50:38
by accident. The goat run? I think they were
50:46
cashing him out against Sadam Ali. And then,
50:51
uh... It did not work out. Deontay Wilder, 10
51:00
-2 -1. Honestly, another hilarious championship
51:06
reign, because, like... You can't even blame
51:09
him for not fighting guys until Luis Ortiz, because,
51:12
like, what was he supposed to do to prevent Povetkin
51:14
from popping dirty? And that other Polish fighter...
51:20
That popped as well. I don't remember his name.
51:25
Which one? I thought he beat Spielke. No, it
51:28
was a different one. Different guy? Yeah. Marius
51:33
Walk, I think it was? Oh yeah, it was Walk. How
51:36
are we supposed to blame Wilder for this when
51:39
every time he signed to fight a top 10 guy it
51:41
went up his face? Yeah, immediate super soldier
51:47
serum. God, Jazza Dickens at 0 -3 is really...
51:56
It just... The fact that he's had three world
51:59
title shots and gave it a go all three times.
52:03
Yeah. Loki got to respect that. Got elevated.
52:12
Yeah, let's see who they were against. One was
52:14
against Gakachi, which, like, okay. You're never
52:16
beating the Brit Slayer as a Brit. The other
52:22
one was Kid Galahad where, like, you should have
52:26
won that. Not only did you lose that, he got
52:31
stopped by Kid Galahad. That should have told
52:38
us all we needed to know about Jazza Dickens.
52:42
Yeah, like, the excusable one is losing to Rigo.
52:47
Jazza Dickens champ for Virgil? No. I can't even.
52:52
I had to throw it out there so you guys wouldn't
52:53
see it. They're on the same level. No, no, no.
52:59
Actually, according to this list, I don't see
53:01
Virgil on the list at all. I don't see him having
53:04
fun in any world title fights. But he hasn't
53:07
lost a world title fight. Yeah, I mean, neither
53:11
has Dave Allen, but like... If we're tiering
53:16
guys by never having fun in a world title fight,
53:19
like... That's the company he keeps? Dave Allen?
53:22
Yeah. Dave Allen and Virgil? Same sentence? I
53:26
mean, it's never happened? To be fair, I just
53:29
had to look at Edgar Berlanga and Fabio Wardley
53:34
in the same sentence. Ugh. Like, this 0 -1 category
53:39
is pretty yucky. The Canelo Alvarez? Canelo?
53:49
Canelo? On second. On the corner of my eye, that
53:51
guy looked like Canelo. Oh, shit. He does look
53:55
like Canelo on the screen. What the fuck? I'm
53:58
like, Canelo? What the fuck are you doing there,
53:59
dude? You're going to get deported. He does.
54:05
He just looks. This is. Yeah. It is uncanny.
54:08
I don't like it. That's why. That's why fucking
54:13
Isaac watches UFC. God, you're right. Alrighty.
54:23
Yeah, but that's the list. The Discord person
54:27
is IDCA. That's Iglesias Destroys Canelo's Ass.
54:35
That's a very pause sentence. That's a good name.
54:44
That's a good name. Yeah. But there you go. Yeah,
54:51
shout out StuMac, I guess. Shout out StuMac.
54:56
Every time I hear StuMac, I think of ChiliMac.
55:00
It's my favorite MRE. Fair. That's it for this
55:10
edition of the Boxing B -Sides. Fuck, we'll see
55:14
you on the other side when we get to talk about
55:16
boots and Zaius. Yay! How do you want to convince
55:34
them to watch MMA instead? Or not instead, but
55:37
just to start watching MMA? I'm going to go,
55:41
like, a different route than Nathan went. I'm
55:43
going to go with, first of all, I think MMA has
55:47
more frequent watchable events. You know, there's
55:51
some weeks in boxing where it's, like, it's either
55:54
super degenerate or, like, no names, whatever.
55:57
I think in the UFC, it's slightly better at times.
56:01
the big big point it's just more hectic i think
56:05
mma at times is just more hectic you're seeing
56:08
stuff from street fights all the way to like
56:10
movie type fights uh you know you got roundhouse
56:13
kicks uh straight up like bar fights at times
56:16
uh you just you get a wider range of enjoyable
56:21
fights i i would say um and then just like i
56:27
don't know it's just it's more enjoyable the
56:28
fact The fact that at times you get to see just
56:30
guys like standing and banging, it's just more
56:33
primal in a way is what I'd say. That's how I
56:37
would try to convince like boxing only fans that
56:40
it's just more. If you enjoy chaos, we saw it
56:43
in the Wild Riches or fight. If you enjoy that
56:46
type chaos, you know, because that wasn't exactly
56:48
like a bunch of technique in that fight. But
56:50
if you enjoyed something like that, I would definitely
56:52
try out MMA just because. At times, there is
56:58
high -level things, and that is incredible to
57:01
watch. You know, people like Mauricio Hufi, you're
57:03
seeing, like, incredible knockouts with kicks.
57:07
But even, like, the lower -level stuff can be
57:09
enjoyable with people just going to town on each
57:12
other, you know, standing and banging. That'd
57:15
probably be the driving point that I would say
57:17
to boxing only fans is that if you enjoy that
57:21
chaos, I would say definitely give MMA a try.
57:25
If you like chaos, I like that. If you do decide
57:29
to give MMA a shot, well, you can check out Ultimate
57:31
FN Casuals. You can hear us chat about all the
57:34
fights that happen every weekend, just like on
57:37
the boxing side.