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Biden Fails Again in ABC News Interview, Making it Harder to Hold Onto Power · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, So Joe Biden does this interview with George Stepanopolis,
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Speaker 1: and the reason why he did this interview is pretty simple.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to say, hey, we don't I'm not totally senile,
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Speaker 1: I'm in charge, I'm the president. Everything's okay. You don't
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Speaker 1: need to worry. It was just a bad night, and
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Speaker 1: that was the message that he needed to send to
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Speaker 1: the American people. If you watch the interview, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it was a disaster. I also don't think it
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Speaker 1: helped him at all. I don't think that it helped
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Speaker 1: him actually in any capacity. I think it just kind
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Speaker 1: of solidified what we were all thinking, and what we
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Speaker 1: were all thinking, is this a really old, seenile guy.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I also want to go back to something else that
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Speaker 1: I've said for quite some time, and that's this. I
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Speaker 1: believe that this is going to go down history as
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Speaker 1: the biggest cover up in modern political history of the
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Speaker 1: cognitive decline of Joe Biden. We're going to find out
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Speaker 1: that everybody around him, for not weeks, not months, but years,
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Speaker 1: has been covering for his declining health and mental incapacity.
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Speaker 1: I also think we're going to find out that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden wasn't actually running the country. And that's something else
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Speaker 1: that I think is really important that we understand that.
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Speaker 1: Like I don't believe that he's in charge. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe that he's actually the president. I think he's president
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Speaker 1: name only. But who is running the government right now?
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Speaker 1: Because it is not this guy? And I think most
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Speaker 1: people would agree with me that he is not running
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Speaker 1: the country. So let's also just deal with that reality
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Speaker 1: as well.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: In this interview, he was trying to explain that, hey,
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Speaker 1: I just had a bad night, I had a cold,
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Speaker 1: I was jetlagged from twelve fourteen days before the debate,
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Speaker 1: and I just got too tired.
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Speaker 2: And that's just the way that it is.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that was the goal here, That's what he was
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Speaker 1: trying to explain or solidify to the American people. It
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Speaker 1: did not go well because his answers, well, they were
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Speaker 1: pretty much terrible. I'm going to go through this even
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Speaker 1: in the first excerpt that ABC News put out, And
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Speaker 1: I also want to say something else. I saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of people online like, man, Georgepnopolis is not letting
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Speaker 1: out man. He's hard hitting tonight in this interview, do
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Speaker 1: not give him any credit and let me explain why
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Speaker 1: he was brought in to be a hit man for
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party to take out Joe Biden in this interview.
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Speaker 1: He was there put there by the Democratic Party, by
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Speaker 1: the elite in Washington, by the donors right, because he
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Speaker 1: is a hardcore Democratic operative that masquerades as an ABC
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Speaker 1: News guy. Now he was Bill Clinton's guy, and they said,
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Speaker 1: with the final nails in the coffin, and that was
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Speaker 1: his objective in this interview. And you could tell from
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Speaker 1: the very beginning he had his marching orders. The Democratic Party,
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Speaker 1: the establishment, the money people, and everybody else in the
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Speaker 1: media were saying to George, go take out Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: He was a hit man for the Democratic Party to
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Speaker 1: get rid of him, because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: the only thing this really is about is the Democrats
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Speaker 1: now believe that Joe Biden can't beat Donald Trump. And
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Speaker 1: since they believe that now since the last debate, they
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Speaker 1: want to get rid of Joe Biden, and they're turning
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Speaker 1: on him and they're all united against him because they
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Speaker 1: want him gone. Now can they stay this way through election?
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Speaker 1: They know there's about a two week window here for
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Speaker 1: them to get rid of him. If they don't then
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Speaker 1: they'll have to jump behind him and say, you know what,
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Speaker 1: he's doing much better, and you know what, he did
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Speaker 1: have a cold, and they'll go back to all the
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Speaker 1: lies they've been telling us for the last three years
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Speaker 1: about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. But right now the media
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Speaker 1: has turned on the president, clearly, the liberal media. They
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Speaker 1: want him gone. They want someone else because they don't
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Speaker 1: want to lose power. And I want you to listen
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Speaker 1: to this first question from George. This is the one
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Speaker 1: they released, and I want you to listen to Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden's excuses slash response.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with a debate.
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Speaker 4: You and your team have said you had a bad night,
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Speaker 4: but your friend Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question I
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Speaker 4: think is on.
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Speaker 3: The minds of millions of Americans.
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Speaker 4: Was this a bad episode with a sign of a
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Speaker 4: more serious condition.
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Speaker 5: It was a bad episode, no indication any serious condition.
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Speaker 5: I was exhausted. I did listen to my instincts in
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Speaker 5: terms of preparents and the bad nights.
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Speaker 4: You know, you say you were exhausted, and I know
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Speaker 4: you've said that before as well, but you came and
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Speaker 4: you did have a tough mind.
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Speaker 3: But you came home from Europe about eleven.
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Speaker 4: Or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in
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Speaker 4: Camp David.
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Speaker 3: Why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery?
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Speaker 5: Because I was sick. I was feeling terrible. As matter
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Speaker 5: of fact, the doc's with me, I asked him. They
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Speaker 5: did a COVID test. But you're trying to figure out
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Speaker 5: what's wrong. You did a test to see whether or
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Speaker 5: not I had some infection, you know, lirus.
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Speaker 6: I didn't. I just had a really bad cold.
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Speaker 1: Now you notice the language that was used there by
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Speaker 1: George Stepanopolis. This is language to take out the president.
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 1: Was your humiliating debate a bad episode or a sign
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Speaker 1: of a more serious condition? So now they're accusing the
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Speaker 1: president implying that he has dementia or Alzheimer's. Biden's response quote,
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Speaker 1: I was exhausted, ABC. Why wasn't your week holdaway at
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Speaker 1: Camp David enough rest time?
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Speaker 2: Biden? I just had a really bad cold.
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Speaker 1: Now there were some that would think at that moment, right,
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Speaker 1: all right, Well then Stepanopolis would kind of like let up.
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Speaker 1: He didn't why because his job was to take out
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Speaker 1: the president? Keep listening.
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Speaker 3: Did you ever watch the debate afterwards?
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Speaker 6: I don't think I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: That is the Joe Biden that everyone saw during debate
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Speaker 1: the other night. Not a hard question. Did you ever
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Speaker 1: watch the debate afterwards? Joe Biden? I don't think I did.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I did. You wouldn't know if you
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Speaker 1: watched the damn debate after the debate. Now, I want
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Speaker 1: to be clear, I don't think Joe Biden had to
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Speaker 1: watch the debate like he knew it was a disaster.
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Speaker 1: He knew it was a train wreck everybody around him.
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Speaker 1: You may go back and watch the debate again to
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Speaker 1: get ready for the next debate in theory right, and
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Speaker 1: see what mistakes you made, and not to take debate
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Speaker 1: or whatever it may be for planning purposes. But the
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Speaker 1: question was did you ever watch the debate after the debate?
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Speaker 1: Biden quote? I don't think I did. The fact that
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Speaker 1: he can't even remember if he did or didn't watch
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Speaker 1: the worst debate in political history after he did, it
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Speaker 1: tells you how far gone this guy is. And listen,
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Speaker 1: stepping off was again goes all in to take out by.
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Speaker 3: Well, don't try.
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Speaker 4: What I want to get at is what were you
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Speaker 4: experiencing as you were going through the debate.
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Speaker 3: Did you know how badly it was going?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, look the whole way I prepared nobody's fault of mind,
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Speaker 5: nobody's help of mind. I prepared what I usually would do,
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Speaker 5: sitting down as I did, come back foreign leaders or
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Speaker 5: the National Security Council.
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Speaker 6: For explicit details.
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Speaker 5: And I realized part way through that, you know, although
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Speaker 5: I get quoted The New York Times had me down
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Speaker 5: at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever
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Speaker 5: the hell it is, the fact of the matter is
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Speaker 5: that what I looked at is that he also lied
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Speaker 5: twenty eight times. I couldn't. I mean, the way the
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Speaker 5: debate ran not my fault. Nobody else is all. No
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Speaker 5: one else is all.
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Speaker 4: But it seemed like you were having trouble from the
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Speaker 4: first question in, even before he spoke, well, I just
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Speaker 4: had a bad night.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just had a bad night. So that is
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Speaker 2: the excuse.
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Speaker 1: They've clearly planned out that excuse, They've explained that excuse,
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Speaker 1: They've made it abundantly clear that that excuse is going
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Speaker 1: to be the excuse they're going to use the entire time. Right, Well,
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Speaker 1: I just had a bad night. I just had a
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Speaker 1: bad night. I just had a bad night. Is that
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Speaker 1: enough to turn it around. I don't think so. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that excuse is going to fly with the
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Speaker 1: American people. And then it got even worse for him
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Speaker 1: because there were other questions that he asked, and they
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Speaker 1: are ones that were not I got your questions, per se,
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Speaker 1: but there's certainly questions that the president couldn't answer.
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Speaker 4: For example, do you dispute that there have been more laughses,
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Speaker 4: especially in the last several months.
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Speaker 6: Can I run one hundred and ten flat?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 6: But I'm still in good shape.
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Speaker 3: Are you more frail?
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Speaker 6: No? I know you spoke at my schedule.
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Speaker 1: Come look at my schedule. So again, do you dispute
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Speaker 1: that there have been more lapses, especially in the last
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Speaker 1: several months, Biden, I'm still in good shape.
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Speaker 2: Are you more frail? Bien?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 1: And look, everybody watching this knows he's more frail. George
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Speaker 1: Spinopolis knows it. The only difference is they've been lying
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Speaker 1: to you about how frail he's been for years, and
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Speaker 1: now they want to get rid of him because they
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Speaker 1: think he's going to lose to Trump. So this is again,
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Speaker 1: don't give credit to George Sepanopolis for actually asking tough
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Speaker 1: questions and not backing down. He was given marching orders
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Speaker 1: to the Democratic Party and the machine go take out
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Speaker 1: the president of the United States of America, and he
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Speaker 1: tried his damnedest to do it.
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Speaker 3: So you spoke with your doctor after the debate. What
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Speaker 3: did he say?
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Speaker 6: He said, he just looked at me. He said, you're exhausted.
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Speaker 5: I said, I am medical doctor's child. We everywhere every
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Speaker 5: president knows that. You know, medical doctors some of the
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Speaker 5: best in the world.
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Speaker 3: Child.
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Speaker 5: We everywhere I go, I have an ongoing assessment of
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Speaker 5: what I'm doing. They don't hesitate to tell me if
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Speaker 5: they think they'reself the wrong.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe this, and I don't think anyone else does.
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Speaker 1: Biden says his doctor quote just looked at him after
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Speaker 1: this humiliating debate performance and said, you're exhausted. He spent
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Speaker 1: an entire week hold up at Camp David, resting and
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Speaker 1: preparing for the debate. And now he wants you to
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Speaker 1: believe that the problem was jetlag and a cold. Now,
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Speaker 1: the President got away with some generic answers early on Stepanopolis,
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Speaker 1: And again, don't give him credit because he was sent
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Speaker 1: to do this interview to take out Joe Biden by
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. And then he was started to really
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Speaker 1: ask about mental capacity, and have you had neurological tests
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Speaker 1: that were done? Have you had a cognitive evaluation for
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Speaker 1: a full using words like Republicans have been using and
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Speaker 1: Donald trumpan using words like quote full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
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Speaker 2: Mister president, the president say listen, I.
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Speaker 3: Know you say you have an ongoing assistant.
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Speaker 4: Have you had a full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
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Speaker 5: I get a full neurological test every day with me,
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Speaker 5: and I've had a full physical I had, you know,
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Speaker 5: I mean I've been able to read through my physicals.
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Speaker 6: I mean, yes, answers.
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Speaker 2: I know he's lying, right.
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Speaker 1: Biden admits he has not had a full neurological and
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Speaker 1: cognitive evaluation. He says he has one every day. No,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't. Now if he's taken one, they've hidden it.
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Speaker 1: They certainly haven't given to the American people like they
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Speaker 1: certainly haven't told us. And we deserve to know this.
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Speaker 1: And that's why stepping up what is saying this because
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Speaker 1: he knows he can't answer the question. So then ABC
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Speaker 1: News moves on to this, Well, look like, can you
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Speaker 1: be effective right what we're watching right? Now is someone
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Speaker 1: that's not effective, right, So let's ask the question and
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Speaker 1: listen to the response from Biden, which literally doesn't make
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Speaker 1: sense when he claims that he's quote the guy that
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Speaker 1: shut down Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine. He's
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Speaker 1: not shut him down at all.
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Speaker 3: Elections are about the future, not the past. They're about
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Speaker 3: tomorrow night.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday, And the question on so many people's minds right
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Speaker 4: now is can you serve effectively for the next four years.
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Speaker 8: George, I'm the guy that put NATO together the future.
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Speaker 8: No one thought they could expand it. I'm the guy
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Speaker 8: that shut Putin down no one thought could happen. I'm
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Speaker 8: the guy that put together the South Pacific Initiative with Alcus.
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Speaker 8: I'm the guy that got fifty nations not only in Europe,
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Speaker 8: outside of Europe as well to help Ukraine. I'm the
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Speaker 8: guy that got Japanese to expand their budget. So I mean,
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Speaker 8: for example, when I decided we used to have forty
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Speaker 8: percent of.
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Speaker 6: The computer chip and we invented the chip, that little
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Speaker 6: chip in the computer.
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Speaker 1: Chip, I mean, this is not an answer to the question.
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Speaker 1: It's not even close to an answer to the question.
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Speaker 1: That was asked, and the question that was asked he
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Speaker 1: did not answer. There was no solid answers from the
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Speaker 1: present there. I'm the guy who's shut down Putin, Like,
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Speaker 1: what world are you living in? You haven't shut down
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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. And then the other question he went back
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Speaker 1: to afterwards, and the question was, all right, are the
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Speaker 1: American people going to get to actually see any medical
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Speaker 1: records on you? Are you going to take a medical evaluation,
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Speaker 1: an independent cognitive, you know, evaluation, so that that the
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Speaker 1: American people don't have to just trust you and the
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Speaker 1: White House who's been lying to us about your condition
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Speaker 1: listen to the President refused to say the American people, yes,
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Speaker 1: you can see that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'll do it.
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Speaker 4: Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation
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Speaker 4: that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests.
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Speaker 3: And release the results to the American people?
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Speaker 6: Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every
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Speaker 6: day I have that test.
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Speaker 1: I mean again, he says the same thing he said
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Speaker 1: earlier lying to the American people. He also was asked
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Speaker 1: about the reality of the polling data. Hey, mister President,
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Speaker 1: your polling numbers are dismal. We've never seen somebody be
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Speaker 1: elected with a thirty what is it six percent approval rating?
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Speaker 1: Like this is really bad? What did Joe Biden say
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Speaker 1: in response to that? To George Spanopolis, Listen, it's been.
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Speaker 4: A two man race for several months. Inflation has come
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Speaker 4: down in those last few months. He's become a convicted felon. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: you're still falling further behind you.
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Speaker 5: Guys keep saying that, George, do you look, do you know,
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Speaker 5: pulling better than anybody?
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Speaker 6: Do you think polling data as accurate as it used
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Speaker 6: to be?
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Speaker 4: I don't think so, But I think when you look
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Speaker 4: at all of the polling data right now, it shows
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Speaker 4: that he's certainly ahead in the popular vote, probably even
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Speaker 4: more ahead in the battleground states. The other key factors
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Speaker 4: there is it shows that in many of the battleground states,
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Speaker 4: the Democrats who are running for cent in the House
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Speaker 4: are doing better than you are.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's not unusual in some states.
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Speaker 5: But carried an alf a lot of Democrats last time
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Speaker 5: I ran in twenty twenty. Look, I remember them telling
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Speaker 5: me the same thing in twenty twenty. I can't win.
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Speaker 5: The poll show I can't win. Remember twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty the red way was coming before the vote.
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Speaker 5: I said, that's not going to happen. We're going to win.
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Speaker 5: We did better in off throw than almost any income
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Speaker 5: a president ever has done.
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Speaker 2: This is the host.
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Speaker 1: Why are you so behind President Trump? Do you think
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Speaker 1: that polling that is accurate? Well, President Trump is certainly ahead.
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Speaker 1: Biden then basically brain malfunctions and is confused and then
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Speaker 1: starts talking about other issues that have nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with that. Joe Biden's claiming he's not behind in the race.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows he's behind the race.
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Speaker 5: Do you really believe you're not behind right now? I
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Speaker 5: think it's all pulsters I talked to tell me it's
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Speaker 5: a toss up. It's a toss up. And when I'm behind,
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Speaker 5: there's only one poll I'm really far behind. CBS poll
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Speaker 5: and NBC, I mean, excuse me, and.
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Speaker 6: New York Times.
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Speaker 4: In NBC both you have you about six points behind
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Speaker 4: in the popular vote.
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Speaker 6: That's exactly right.
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Speaker 5: New York Times had me behind before anything happened to
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Speaker 5: do with this race, had me behind behind ten points,
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Speaker 5: ten points had me behind, not this chase of chases
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Speaker 5: in the debate.
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Speaker 1: So, in other words, don't believe you're lying eyes yet again,
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Speaker 1: I'm not behind the race. Why well, my polling data
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Speaker 1: tells me you're wrong, and I don't believe your your polls.
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Speaker 1: And then George Stepanopps tries to even help him there,
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Speaker 1: rescue him a little bit, right, say well, it's actually
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Speaker 1: when he can't remember where the other poll came from,
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Speaker 1: stepping off was in step tent Is like, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: New York Times, mister President, like he was actually I
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Speaker 1: think he felt bad for him, And then he insists
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Speaker 1: his humiliating debate performance didn't negatively impact him. He's looking
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Speaker 1: at George Epanopolis and telling George my debate did not
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Speaker 1: affect the polls at all.
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Speaker 2: That is insane.
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Speaker 1: Biden also claimed that he brought down inflation, which was
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Speaker 1: a perfect one point four percent when Joe Biden took office,
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Speaker 1: and they let him get away with this lie on ABC, Listen,
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Speaker 1: how do.
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Speaker 4: You respond to critics who say that by staying in
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Speaker 4: the race, you're doing the same thing?
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Speaker 6: Oh come on, well, I don't think those critics know
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Speaker 6: what they're talking about.
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Speaker 3: They're just wrong.
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Speaker 6: It's wrong.
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Speaker 5: Look, Trump is a pathological liar.
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Speaker 6: Trump is he is.
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Speaker 5: Have you never seen anything Trump did the benefit of
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Speaker 5: somebody else, not him.
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Speaker 4: You can't answer right now, questioned him in his allies
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Speaker 4: as persistently as any journalist.
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Speaker 6: Well, I know you have. I'm not being critical.
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Speaker 5: I'm not being critical, but look, I mean, the man
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Speaker 5: is a congenital liar, as I said. They pointed out
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Speaker 5: in that debated life twenty seven, twenty eight times, the
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Speaker 5: Times or whatever number over twenty times talk about how
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Speaker 5: as good as economy was, how he brought down inflation,
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Speaker 5: and how this is a guy who, unlike only other
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Speaker 5: presidents of other than him, and it's Hoover, lost more
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Speaker 5: jobs than he created. This is the guy told us
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Speaker 5: some completion in our arms to deal with COVID, but
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Speaker 5: over million people died.
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Speaker 2: By the way.
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Speaker 1: He didn't actually say that, but who cares, right? Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden claims that President Trump was lying about how he
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Speaker 1: brought down inflation, which was a one point four percent
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Speaker 1: when Biden took office, and then won't answer the question
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Speaker 1: about how bad things are now, right. He also, Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden says everyone is telling him to stand the race.
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Speaker 1: Well that's just a lie as well, But this is
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Speaker 1: a deranged individual, not everyone's telling to stand the race.
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Speaker 1: Gearge Epanopolis is telling him to get out, right, Nancy
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Speaker 1: Pelosi is telling him to get out. Democratic donors are
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Speaker 1: telling me to get out. Op eds are telling him
19:14
Speaker 1: to get it, get out. I mean, this is so
19:18
Speaker 1: bad right now that you actually have the Economists that
19:21
Speaker 1: says why Biden must withdraw the president and is party
19:25
Speaker 1: portrayed themselves the saviors of democracy? Their actions say otherwise.
19:29
Speaker 1: They have the presidential seal on the front of a walker.
19:34
Speaker 1: Even the front of the Economists magazine says, quote, no
19:38
Speaker 1: way to run a country with the walker with the
19:42
Speaker 1: seal on it. Then they put out a tweet and
19:45
Speaker 1: it says the president of debate was awful for Joe Biden,
19:47
Speaker 1: but the cover up has been worse. The dishonesty of
19:50
Speaker 1: his campaign provokes contempt. He must withdraw. All of the
19:55
Speaker 1: media's turned on him. Okay, all of the media has
20:01
Speaker 1: turned on him. They're not trying to save him. They
20:03
Speaker 1: know they have a short window to get him out,
20:05
Speaker 1: and that's what they're moving to do.
20:08
Speaker 2: And when Joe.
20:08
Speaker 1: Biden's asked about all of the things that are happening,
20:11
Speaker 1: like hey, should you even stay in the race? Right
20:13
Speaker 1: Like He's like everyone's telling me say the race. That's
20:15
Speaker 1: a lie. Everyone's telling you to get out of the race.
20:17
Speaker 1: So that's why you're having to do this interview with George.
20:20
Speaker 4: I mean, at a more practical level, Washington Pulls just
20:22
Speaker 4: reported in the last hour that Senator Mark Warner is
20:26
Speaker 4: assembling a group of senators together to try and convince
20:29
Speaker 4: you to stand down because they don't think you can win.
20:32
Speaker 6: Well, Mark is a good man. We've never had that.
20:35
Speaker 5: He also tried to get the nomination to Mark'snott. Mark
20:39
Speaker 5: and I have a different perspective. I respect him.
20:43
Speaker 4: And if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
20:48
Speaker 4: come down and say we're worried that if you stay
20:51
Speaker 4: in the race, we're going to lose the house in
20:52
Speaker 4: the Senate, how will you respond.
20:55
Speaker 6: I've go into detail with them.
20:56
Speaker 5: I've speaking of all of them in detail, including Jim Klein,
21:01
Speaker 5: every one of them.
21:01
Speaker 6: They all said I should stay in the race. Stay
21:05
Speaker 6: in the race. No one said. None of the people
21:06
Speaker 6: said I should leave it.
21:07
Speaker 4: But if they do, well, I'm not.
21:12
Speaker 6: Going to do that. You sure, well, yeah, I'm sure.
21:16
Speaker 5: Look, I mean, if the Lord of Money came out
21:19
Speaker 5: and said Joe get out of the race. I got
21:21
Speaker 5: out the race, and Lord of Money's not coming down.
21:23
Speaker 1: So he apparently knows God well enough to know that
21:26
Speaker 1: God's like coming down to tell him to get out
21:27
Speaker 1: of the race. I go back to what I said
21:29
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, he doesn't have a plan. In fact,
21:36
Speaker 1: we know he didn't have a plan, and he answered
21:38
Speaker 1: this question for ABC News about the plan for his
21:41
Speaker 1: campaign forget the country. He didn't have a plan for
21:44
Speaker 1: how to get out of that's just Hey, I'm going
21:45
Speaker 1: to do some more events. I guess I'm not dropping out.
21:50
Speaker 1: I'm the guy.
21:52
Speaker 3: What's your plan to turn the campaign around?
21:55
Speaker 5: I saw today? How many how many feature do you
22:00
Speaker 5: draw crowds?
22:00
Speaker 3: Like I?
22:00
Speaker 6: Drin die if I'm any.
22:03
Speaker 5: More enthusiastics through today.
22:06
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you want to play the
22:07
Speaker 3: crowd game. Donald Trump can draw a big crowds, There's
22:09
Speaker 3: no question about that.
22:10
Speaker 6: And you' you can draw a big crowd. But what
22:12
Speaker 6: does he saying? Who's he have? I'm the guy supposedly
22:16
Speaker 6: in trouble.
22:17
Speaker 1: I don't think this interview helped. I don't think it
22:21
Speaker 1: did anything to make anything better. I don't think it's
22:24
Speaker 1: gonna make Democrats say, Okay, calm down. I think you've
22:28
Speaker 1: got another two weeks of a full court press to
22:30
Speaker 1: get him out. And I think the Democrats are going
22:33
Speaker 1: to keep writing these articles. They're going to keep calling
22:39
Speaker 1: for him to step aside. I think you're going to
22:42
Speaker 1: see so many different people say that he should step aside.
22:46
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see them say it over
22:48
Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over again. And
22:52
Speaker 1: they're gonna do this for about two weeks now. In
22:55
Speaker 1: two weeks, if he's still standing and they haven't gotten
22:59
Speaker 1: him out, then I think they'll shut up a little
23:02
Speaker 1: bit and go all right, we're stuck with him, right.
23:05
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see people like Kamala Harris,
23:07
Speaker 1: for example, who are going to do nothing to help him.
23:11
Speaker 1: I think she knows she's second in line, like it's
23:14
Speaker 1: hers to basically have if he walks away, because she's
23:18
Speaker 1: the only one that can keep the money in the
23:19
Speaker 1: campaign war chest. And I think that's an important point
23:22
Speaker 1: aspect of this conversation. So you notice we hadn't seen
23:27
Speaker 1: a lot of her. She's been real quiet. I think
23:31
Speaker 1: that's on purpose. I think that's done deliberately by her.
23:35
Speaker 1: I think she understands that this may be her opportunity
23:40
Speaker 1: to become the president of the United States of America.
23:43
Speaker 1: And so everyone around him right now that knows the
23:47
Speaker 1: polls are real and understands how bad the polls are
23:52
Speaker 1: for him, they're going to sit there and try to
23:55
Speaker 1: destroy him and undermine him. You're going to see them
23:57
Speaker 1: do to him over the next fourteen days what they
24:00
Speaker 1: did during the entire four years of Donald Trump's presidency.
24:04
Speaker 1: And if he can survive it, and there's a very
24:07
Speaker 1: good chance that he can, let's be clear about that,
24:10
Speaker 1: then what he's going to do is he's going to say, Okay,
24:12
Speaker 1: I'm still the guy, I'm still standing, I'm still here.
24:14
Speaker 2: You can't get rid of me.
24:16
Speaker 1: And they will all get right back behind him, and
24:19
Speaker 1: they will tell you that things are getting better. They
24:21
Speaker 1: will tell you that things are looking up. They will
24:23
Speaker 1: tell you that things aren't that bad. That's what they're
24:26
Speaker 1: going to do. The big question that everybody is asking
24:30
Speaker 1: is is Joe Biden going home? Is he going to
24:34
Speaker 1: go back to Delaware? Is he going to just drop
24:39
Speaker 1: out of the race. I want to be clear, I
24:41
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to drop out. There's a lot
24:43
Speaker 1: of reporting right now saying that the President is thinking
24:46
Speaker 1: about dropping out. The Democrats are saying he's got to
24:52
Speaker 1: drop out. They're losing their minds on TV. The media
24:55
Speaker 1: is united against him getting out. The Democratic leadership is
24:59
Speaker 1: united behind getting out. And Biden met with Democratic governors
25:03
Speaker 1: and the polls show that he is slipping in his support.
25:06
Speaker 3: Now.
25:06
Speaker 1: President Biden huddled with a group of more than twenty
25:09
Speaker 1: Democratic governors in an attempt to stabilize a standing among
25:13
Speaker 1: his party's leaders. All right, the President was said to
25:17
Speaker 1: be mowing the future of his candidcy with key allies,
25:20
Speaker 1: and a new poll show that Donald Trump had a
25:23
Speaker 1: widen lead over Joe Biden after the debate disaster. Donald
25:29
Speaker 1: Trump now leads President Biden forty nine to forty three
25:33
Speaker 1: percent among likely voters Nationally. A new poll shows I
25:37
Speaker 1: don't care about national polls that much because, yes, it
25:40
Speaker 1: shows your trend, but it is a meany thing because
25:42
Speaker 1: this all comes down to the electoral college.
25:45
Speaker 2: So I look at swing states.
25:46
Speaker 1: What I know right now is the President of the
25:48
Speaker 1: United States of America, Joe Biden is behind Donald Trump
25:51
Speaker 1: in every single swing state. Now in Michigan, Joe Biden
25:56
Speaker 1: sought to reassure Democrats that her husband was up to
25:59
Speaker 1: the job.
26:00
Speaker 2: Not all there were convinced either.
26:02
Speaker 1: As we are going through this, as they're trying to
26:06
Speaker 1: convince everybody before July fourth holiday that everything is going
26:09
Speaker 1: to be just fine. Congressional Democrats have also now become
26:13
Speaker 1: cautious when defending President Biden's ability to serve and also
26:18
Speaker 1: win reelection because they're afraid, because all of them on
26:21
Speaker 1: the House side are up for reelection right every two years,
26:25
Speaker 1: they're afraid that Joe Biden may make them lose some
26:27
Speaker 1: of their seats. And then the question is who would
26:30
Speaker 1: be the front runner right now if Joe Biden does
26:33
Speaker 1: step aside. I think it's no doubt right now that
26:37
Speaker 1: the front runner is Kama Harris. Why because she's the
26:40
Speaker 1: only one that could actually use the money that's been
26:42
Speaker 1: raised for the Biden Harris campaign, and it seems very
26:46
Speaker 1: problematic for someone to come in with no war chests
26:49
Speaker 1: and have to start it at zero. Kama Harris would
26:52
Speaker 1: start with the same amount of money that is in
26:54
Speaker 1: their bank account right now. Harris is also growing the
26:59
Speaker 1: support on social media among Democrats because I think they
27:03
Speaker 1: also understand that the campaign is up and running. They
27:07
Speaker 1: don't have to start something new and they don't have
27:09
Speaker 1: to start raising money from scratch. So you combine all
27:12
Speaker 1: of those things. And yes, there's a lot going on.
27:16
Speaker 1: But let me let you hear what Tim walt said.
27:19
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz, governor walking out of this meeting at the
27:22
Speaker 1: White House about eight o'clock on July third, and this
27:26
Speaker 1: is what he said to the American people.
27:31
Speaker 9: Yes, for office president, three and a half, three and
27:34
Speaker 9: a half years of delivering for us, going through what
27:36
Speaker 9: we've all been through. None of us are denying Thursday
27:39
Speaker 9: night was a bad performance. It was a bad Uh,
27:43
Speaker 9: it was a bad hit, if you will on that.
27:45
Speaker 9: But it doesn't impact what I believe he's delivering.
27:55
Speaker 10: No, I always say this. In November, we've got a
27:58
Speaker 10: clear choice. The President was very clear that he is
28:01
Speaker 10: in this to winness, and the president is going to
28:04
Speaker 10: if president is our nominee, the president is our party leader.
28:07
Speaker 10: And the President has told us and he was very
28:09
Speaker 10: clear back there that he is in this to witness.
28:11
Speaker 10: And so for people, I would say and listen, we're governors.
28:14
Speaker 10: We don't do handering. That's not what we do. Governor's
28:17
Speaker 10: work and get things done. Governor says, tell me the objective,
28:21
Speaker 10: and we're going to make sure that we accomplish the objective.
28:23
Speaker 2: And so for people.
28:24
Speaker 10: Who who who are who are concerned, I just want
28:27
Speaker 10: to be very clear on something. And come November, we've
28:29
Speaker 10: got a binary choice, and the binary choices between someone
28:32
Speaker 10: who has continually delivered for us in our states and
28:35
Speaker 10: the people of our states, and frankly, someone who's vision
28:38
Speaker 10: for the future of this country is downright dangerous. And
28:42
Speaker 10: so I would tell people it is time to mount up,
28:45
Speaker 10: and it is time to get serious and understands this.
28:55
Speaker 10: Did the President explain that his debt to you on
28:59
Speaker 10: Thursday night understand the state?
29:01
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah he did, he said, Look he did.
29:03
Speaker 6: He didn't listen to himself.
29:04
Speaker 11: But I thought he gave a great example when he said, look,
29:07
Speaker 11: I'm worrying about numbers on this. It's about people, It's
29:09
Speaker 11: about their lives. This is Joe fram Scranton. He talks
29:12
Speaker 11: about building the middle class. He did it, he delivered.
29:14
Speaker 11: And I think this idea that you get in your
29:16
Speaker 11: own head, you get a little bit cycled up on that.
29:18
Speaker 11: What we saw him there today was.
29:20
Speaker 9: A guy who was the guy that all of us
29:21
Speaker 9: believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump,
29:23
Speaker 9: and did beat Donald Trump.
29:25
Speaker 2: With that thank you, and they rushed off.
29:30
Speaker 1: Now those Democratic governors that went before that microphone are
29:35
Speaker 1: saying in a very united front, he is still our guy.
29:39
Speaker 1: On TV, however, the Democrats on TV are saying something
29:42
Speaker 1: very very different. We have a second House Democrat that
29:46
Speaker 1: is now calling on Biden to drop out of the
29:48
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four race publicly. Then a third came forward,
29:52
Speaker 1: Representative Moulton, saying, I have grave concerns that Biden can
29:57
Speaker 1: beat Trump.
29:58
Speaker 2: So it's not even about that Kaigna decline.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's about, hey, if this guy's gonna lose, he may
30:04
Speaker 1: make some of us lose. So we're going to bail
30:06
Speaker 1: on him selfishly because now we no longer like him.
30:10
Speaker 2: And I want you to hear what CNN said.
30:13
Speaker 1: A bunch of Democrats on there and they're talking about this.
30:17
Speaker 12: Listen, thoughts are because I've heard that message for months,
30:21
Speaker 12: right that look at the record, and if he just
30:23
Speaker 12: articulates the record, that will show in the numbers.
30:26
Speaker 2: But it hasn't.
30:27
Speaker 12: It hasn't shown in the numbers, and those numbers are
30:30
Speaker 12: getting worse. And he didn't show an ability to make
30:33
Speaker 12: that case aggressively in the debate. So I wonder where
30:37
Speaker 12: that leaves us in your view.
30:39
Speaker 2: Look, I just going to be honest.
30:41
Speaker 13: I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all
30:43
Speaker 13: this great stuff, but behind the scenes it's.
30:44
Speaker 2: A full skill panic.
30:46
Speaker 13: People are passing around legal memos, PDFs with flying back
30:51
Speaker 13: and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out what are
30:54
Speaker 13: the options. How can you replace Biden? How do you
30:57
Speaker 13: get him to do it in a way where he
30:58
Speaker 13: feels respected? If he should be respected, who should Kamala
31:01
Speaker 13: Harris's vice president be. The conversation on air and the
31:05
Speaker 13: conversation off air are completely different. And so it's the
31:09
Speaker 13: same thing with you saw with the Trump situation where
31:11
Speaker 13: people would come on air and defend Trump and then
31:13
Speaker 13: you talk to people and then we got a crazy candidate.
31:16
Speaker 13: We don't have a crazy candidate. We have a great candidate.
31:18
Speaker 13: We have a beautiful man. We have someone who loves
31:20
Speaker 13: this country. We have someone who has given his all,
31:23
Speaker 13: I mean his all to the last drop for this country.
31:26
Speaker 13: But he may not be able to get across the
31:27
Speaker 13: finish line. And a mature party has to take that
31:30
Speaker 13: into account, and that is what's happening. And so look,
31:33
Speaker 13: I understand that people want to, you know, defend him
31:37
Speaker 13: and protect him and give him their space and the
31:38
Speaker 13: dignity to make his own choice. But there is a
31:41
Speaker 13: big conversation happening right now about how this happens, not weather.
31:46
Speaker 2: How this happens not weather.
31:48
Speaker 1: You notice how now, all of a sudden this has
31:50
Speaker 1: started to really change the dynamic.
31:52
Speaker 3: Here.
31:53
Speaker 2: They're saying, I want to get rid of.
31:55
Speaker 1: Him, and I want to get rid of him right now,
32:00
Speaker 1: and he has to understand that it's time for us
32:02
Speaker 1: to get rid of him, and we need him to
32:04
Speaker 1: go away, and we need him to do it in
32:06
Speaker 1: a responsible manner, and we're going to push him. Then
32:09
Speaker 1: you have those the White House who are saying, well,
32:12
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't need to go, maybe it's too hard.
32:15
Speaker 1: And then the question is does Harris. If Harris is
32:17
Speaker 1: the one that's going to get everything right, like all
32:20
Speaker 1: the money, and she becomes a candidate, does she have
32:23
Speaker 1: a better chance against Donald Trump? That is a fair
32:26
Speaker 1: question that also needs to be asked now. By the way,
32:30
Speaker 1: on a side note, the White House is not helping Okay,
32:33
Speaker 1: the White House is not doing a very good job
32:36
Speaker 1: of helping at all.
32:37
Speaker 2: Right now, when they're asked.
32:39
Speaker 1: Basic questions, Listen to White House Press Secretary being asked
32:43
Speaker 1: about the new excuse that Joe Biden suffered from jet
32:46
Speaker 1: lag and that's why he didn't do well at the
32:49
Speaker 1: last debate.
32:52
Speaker 3: Thank you.
32:53
Speaker 14: There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I
32:55
Speaker 14: think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the
32:58
Speaker 14: effects of that nearly two weeks later. So I can
33:02
Speaker 14: you articulate a little bit about, like, do you guys
33:05
Speaker 14: can usually have accommodations for him after he does a
33:07
Speaker 14: trip that he's going to have jet lag for that
33:10
Speaker 14: long a period of time.
33:12
Speaker 2: So can you can you when you say two weeks later,
33:14
Speaker 2: what do you mean the debate?
33:15
Speaker 14: He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen
33:18
Speaker 14: days before the debate, So his explanation for a four
33:21
Speaker 14: debate performance is jetlag.
33:23
Speaker 7: So what I want to say is it's the jet
33:26
Speaker 7: lag and also the cold, right. It is the two things,
33:30
Speaker 7: and that occurred, and you all heard it in his
33:34
Speaker 7: voice when he did the debate, right, And it is
33:37
Speaker 7: not even something that we shared ahead of time. You
33:39
Speaker 7: heard it in his voice and we confirmed it. And
33:42
Speaker 7: I think that's important to note as well, like it
33:44
Speaker 7: is the jet lag and the cold. But I want
33:47
Speaker 7: to be really I want to be really clearer. This
33:49
Speaker 7: is not an excuse, right, This is not an excuse.
33:52
Speaker 7: You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're
33:54
Speaker 7: giving it an explanation.
33:55
Speaker 2: It is not an excuse.
33:57
Speaker 7: I don't want that to be the leading piece of
34:00
Speaker 7: this ask for the only reason we're sharing this because
34:03
Speaker 7: it was asked of me here and the President certainly
34:05
Speaker 7: wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he
34:08
Speaker 7: did yesterday.
34:09
Speaker 2: We want to We.
34:11
Speaker 7: Understand that it wasn't his best night. It wasn't a
34:14
Speaker 7: great debate. We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw,
34:19
Speaker 7: what the American people saw, and what you all saw,
34:21
Speaker 7: and so we wanted to give an explanation. So I
34:24
Speaker 7: don't want to get into this or are you giving
34:26
Speaker 7: this excuse that excuse. We're giving you what our explanation was.
34:31
Speaker 7: We want to continue to make sure that we do
34:35
Speaker 7: everything that we can to deliver for the American people.
34:38
Speaker 6: That's what we're going to continue to do.
34:40
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of those when you just
34:43
Speaker 2: got to laugh.
34:45
Speaker 1: Joe Biden they're saying, the reason why I had a
34:47
Speaker 1: bad debate is because he suffered from jet lag, and
34:49
Speaker 1: that would have been fourteen days before the debate.
34:52
Speaker 2: Two weeks before the debate.
34:53
Speaker 1: They're saying, we had jet lag, and so therefore that's
34:57
Speaker 1: why I had a bad night is because of the
35:00
Speaker 1: jet lag from two weeks prior vacation.
35:05
Speaker 2: But we're not making excuses.
35:07
Speaker 1: If I was Joe Biden, by the way, i'd be
35:09
Speaker 1: firing the White House Press secretary right now because she's
35:12
Speaker 1: only making you look like you're more incompetent. Make sure
35:16
Speaker 1: you share this podcast with your family and friends, please,
35:19
Speaker 1: because a lot of what I just played for you're
35:20
Speaker 1: not going to hear on the news.
35:22
Speaker 2: And I'll see you back here tomorrow