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Part 2: Princess Chandra Interlude - A Parade of Horribles · The Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted

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Welcome back to the Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted,
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a podcast where we overanalyze every chapter
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of Dungeon Crawler Carl like it's a college thesis
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written during a nervous breakdown. We talk theories,
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character arcs, dungeon nonsense, and all the
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moments that made us laugh, panic, or just sit
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there staring at the wall for a while. We are
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a big feelings podcast, so expect plenty of emotional
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damage, character breakdowns, and way too much
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discussion about things that probably were not
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meant to be analyzed this hard. Sorry, Matt.
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This is a full spoilers podcast covering all
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released books, including The Pineapple Cabaret.
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So if you're not caught up, now's your chance
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to turn back. You've been warned. We left off
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last episode with Princess Chandra threatening
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people and their small children. What a wonderful
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trait that she has. Well, don't worry. She was
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going to have them kill Quasar first. Yes, and
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probably his niece and her dad. Which does come
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around later in the book, and that doesn't go
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very well for Chandra's two Tauren associates.
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No, it doesn't. I think that there is an ongoing
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theme throughout these books that you should
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not underestimate children. Shouldn't underestimate
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children or Quasar. Never underestimate Quasar.
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Definitely. Which, you know, does make me think
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maybe he had a reason for not putting Donut under
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a conservatorship under Carl. Or maybe that was
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an oversight. I think it was an oversight, personally.
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Yeah. So Chandra is here looking at Donut, the
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flat -faced, annoying rodent. Oh, babe. I know.
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It says that the bet makers had her survival
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rate at the end of Faction Wars at just 40%,
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but she says rodents have an uncanny nature of
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always coming out on top. I don't know about
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rodents, but cats definitely have that ability.
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Well, and our betting markets are more accurate
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than they should be due to insider trading. Our
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betting markets or the big galaxy's betting markets?
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Ours. Ours, yes. Okay. The amount of things that
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you can bet on is wild. Like, it used to just
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be sports betting, and now it's like you can
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bet on... Are we going to war with Iran? Yeah.
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And people who are in the decision room on if
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we are going to war with Iran can place bets.
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It is extremely concerning. Yeah. Some things
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shouldn't be things you can bet on. So, yeah,
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Chandra repeatedly talks about how ugly Princess
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Donut is. Well, she's a snake and a lot of people
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don't consider snakes to be very cute. I like
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snakes. I think they're cool looking. I want
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to describe them as cute, generally speaking,
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though. Some of them are, but they're cool. They've
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never called a snake cute. Mm -hmm. So Donut's
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like, you know, who are you and why do I feel
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funny? And Chandra... tells her that she is in
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a Type A containment, which is a special type
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of containment zone that allows for Donut to
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still function and basically be alive and talk
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and exist, but without having all of her powers
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and inventory and such. So they use this type
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of containment for various crawlers, depending
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on what race selection they made. And this is
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the same type of containment that they would
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use for Chris as the... rock creature that he
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is i forget exactly what an igneous i think yeah
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but the thing about that that i don't quite understand
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is that like biologically like cats and humans
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aren't that different so besides the intelligence
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which i would think could be altered for any
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type of species without it having huge biological
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implications i'm not sure why donut would need
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to be in a special zone yeah it doesn't really
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make that much sense to me either because like
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she's still biologically a cat and the only like
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major difference is that she's smart and she
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can talk so I don't really understand like why
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she would need a special containment zone different
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than what Carl would need or Prepetente. Do we
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know if Prepetente needs the special containment
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zone? We don't know that but it is different
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though because as we went over in the last episode
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Prepetente is no longer an Earth -type class,
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while Princess Donut still is. But I mean, technically,
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it would be a terrible idea, although it would
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be very entertaining for us. We could send a
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cat up into space. I mean, I think we have. No,
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we definitely have. Oh, I thought just dogs and
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monkeys went. No, we've sent cats to space. I
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mean, we've definitely sent cats to like zero
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-gravity environments, maybe like lower orbit,
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but I've seen videos of cats in zero -gravity
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environments. It's very funny. I wish that so
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much. It's very funny. Are you sure that they're
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maybe not in one of those free -fall sky landing
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zones? It might have been one of those. I'm not
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sure. Okay. But I know that they did a lot of
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animal testings before they sent humans. I think
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it was mostly monkeys and dogs, though. Yeah.
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So the only cat that has been into space was
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named Felicity, and it completed one flight on
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October 18, 1963. Interesting. Only one cat?
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Only one cat. And it was a Persian. It was a
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Persian? It was a Persian. So the only cat that's
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been to space is a Persian. You heard it from
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us first, folks. I wonder if it was a tortoise
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shell. That is fantastic to know. Glad we stopped
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to look that up. Look, you either like our podcast
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or you don't. Yeah. Chandra introduces herself
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to Donut, tells her that she is her lawyer. She
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introduces herself as Princess Chandra. And Donut's
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like, oh, you're a princess. Were you related
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to Princess Vinyada? And she was like, no, the
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whole princess thing is very recent development
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for me. And then Donut starts going on about
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Princess Chandra's coloring and that, you know,
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her white scales were very pretty, but it turns
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out that it was actually gray. And she's like,
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I wonder if that was, you know, a thing of debate
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and spectacle when everyone saw that that wasn't
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actually her true shading. It was kind of like
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the dress a couple of years ago when people were
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posting on Facebook and it's like, is this blue
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or is this white or gold or whatever? And like
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people were fighting with each other. Yeah. I
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wondered if that was kind of a reference to that.
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Maybe a little bit. A little bit. That whole
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dress thing was weird. It was weird. Yeah. But
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apparently Vinyata's death did go viral, possibly
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on Facebook. Yeah. Or whatever the intergalactic
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equivalent of Facebook is. And Chandra was very
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annoyed that. There was a coup of government
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and a bunch of people died and like a whole new
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system of government was put into place. And
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the thing that people were talking about the
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most was Vinyada not actually having golden white
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scales and that she was killed by not a crawler,
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but a crawler's pet slug. Points to Princess
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Chandra. I would also find that irritating. Yeah,
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I would. I mean, that's pretty much how it is,
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though, in the real world. you know, not too
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far off the point there. And right here, as Donut
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is kind of just like blabbing on and on and on,
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Chandra is kind of just looking at her and she's
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like, things just keeps droning on and on, not
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making a coherent point. And she keeps mindlessly
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wiping her paw on the side of the table. And
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I didn't notice it the first read through, but
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this paw wiping that Donut does starts right
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away in book eight. And like every time she does
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it, it just makes me die inside a little bit.
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Like a lot of trauma she's got there. Yeah, definitely.
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And I think she's taking too much of it onto
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herself when if it's a group thing to save everyone,
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all the decisions that they made were group decisions.
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Yeah. But just because like everyone made a group
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decision together, like the person who presses
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the button or pulls the trigger, so to speak,
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is going to carry more weight on their shoulders.
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Even if everyone decided together. So also here
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we have some lampshade hanging. Our favorite
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thing. And the donut tells Chandra that 40 isn't
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as desirable as white for coloring. And that's
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a reference to when the books were first released.
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Princess Donut was actually white on the covers
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because. Matt didn't think that he could find
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someone who would be willing to do enough detail
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to do a torty Persian. Really? Yes. I didn't
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know that's why. I thought maybe there was just
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a bit of a disconnect between Luciano. But yeah,
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I was pretty confused for a while why Donut appeared
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kind of like this whitish, grayish color on all
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the covers. I mean, I think that's why everyone
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initially was drawing Donut as a white Persian.
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My friend and I got into a disagreement because
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I was like, she's a Persian. And my friend was
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like, no, she's a Tordi, the same kind of cat
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that I have. And we were both right. Princess
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Chandra is complaining about Donut rambling on
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and on. Princess Chandra is rambling on and on.
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We get it. You earned it. You earned it. I don't
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know what that actually means to you, but I get
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that you think that you were done wrong by the
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universe somehow by not being in the number one
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spot when you were born. And you think that ripping
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off these crawlers is going to fix that for you.
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And Donut comes in hard here and just her ambiance,
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her presence is so powerful. And, you know, she's
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kind of just talking on and on about. vignetta
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and that you know she had six arms and she was
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like oh well you know I see that you only have
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two arms that must make your costs at the nail
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salon so much cheaper and vignetta like immediately
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kind of like hides her nails under the table
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because they're dirty and she has this brief
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moment of shame almost and she's all of a sudden
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like taken aback and she's being introspective
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of you know why why do I feel this way what's
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going on like is this creature making me nervous
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no no no surely that's not it like I must just
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be worried that she's going to mess it all up
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somehow. But Donut just has this energy that
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I think is infectious to everyone around her,
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both to their betterment or to their detriment
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in this case. Big princess energy. Big princess
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energy. B -P -E. There we go. Oh my gosh, can
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we make shirts that say that? It probably already
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exists. There's probably already a shirt out
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there that says big princess energy. Maybe not
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a Dungeon Crawler Carl Reinhardt, but that shirt
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probably has been printed at some point. Well,
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we'd put Donut on it. There we go. Speaking of,
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Donut got a bunch of nice, safe deals that were
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offered to her, but basically all the deals upped
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the amount of money that the syndicate could
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make off of her. So they offered her deals that
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were really short or that she had obviously survived
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or probably survived, but ones that would get
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more of her royalty money. I will say that...
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It's Shaco's last season that her and Carl are
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offered to host the prize wheel together. And
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that is actually an excellent deal. Like Carl
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was never going to take a deal, but that would
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have been great for them, especially because
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I think what really resonates with me and a lot
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of these stories. is that if you take a deal
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you have no idea if you're going to be on the
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same general time frame as the people that you
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took deals with and you don't know when you're
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going to see them again right and you don't know
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when you're going to be put to use or where you're
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going to be put to use you might yeah i mean
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like there's a chance that you'll never be in
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the same part of the dungeon at the same time
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as each other so you know i think that like any
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other season any other time like that's a really
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really sweet deal that they were offered but
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like They have no intention of taking a deal
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for a bunch of reasons because they have a goal
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and an agenda that they're trying to accomplish,
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but also they don't have any faith that deals
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will be honored or that there will be a future
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crawl ever. Yeah, and we do see in the end of
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the book that Quasar says that he's not going
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to go over any of the deals because they're inherently
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untrustworthy and then goes off to deal with
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his terrorism situation. Him being terrorized?
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Yes. Yeah. Okay, just clarifying. I wasn't sure
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if he was doing some terrorism I was unaware
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of. Not quite yet. Not yet. I mean, he couldn't
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do any terrorism because he wouldn't bring a
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bad name to Nullians. I mean, if his niece is
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in trouble, or maybe Haps. But it usually says
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that after crawlers die, all the money goes to
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the syndicate. But now that Donut has proper
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representation, that won't happen. Right, because...
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Chandra is going to take all of Donut's money
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instead of the syndicate. So that's a good thing.
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And apparently Chandra wasn't even paying attention
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to the crawl and didn't care until she found
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out that her husband might die, which like, wow,
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great human there. Well, not human, but you know
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what I mean. Well, that's actually like interesting
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thing that comes up multiple times throughout
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the books with different kind of characters from
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outside the dungeon that are added in that it's
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noted that, you know, they didn't really pay
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that much attention to the crawl. While obviously
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there are quintillions of viewers and followers
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that are watching The Crawl, you have Chandra,
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who didn't really pay attention to it. You have
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the guy that was at CrawlCon who designed the
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Desperado Club who said he only really watches
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the highlight reels these days. I mean, he's
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been around for hundreds or thousands of cycles
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where it's just not that interesting to him anymore.
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And the same thing with Linus, actually Minus,
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later in the book. He's like, I didn't pay attention
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to The Crawl at all. was kind of a terrible choice
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for a spy because I don't know what the fuck
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is going on. Well, to be fair, the World Cup
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is happening 10 minutes from us right now. And
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if you put a gun to my head and asked me to tell
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you who was playing tonight, both teams, I definitely
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couldn't tell you. I have no idea. Not paying
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attention at all. So I'm sure some of you would
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probably be like, ah, I would do anything to
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be in Atlanta right now. Donut makes it very
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clear that she has no intention of taking a deal
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and lets her know that that is her final decision
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and doesn't want to hear anything about any of
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the deals. And it's very simple. Chandra just
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presses a button. Crawler is not taking a deal
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and it's done. And then Donut's like, so are
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we done here? Chandra says, not quite. This is
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where things get fun. Yeah, this is where the
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chapter gets really fun. And this is where she
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really starts feeling nervous. Chandra basically
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lays out. some of her evil plan, and lets Donut
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know that she is planning on stealing all of
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her money, and there's absolutely nothing that
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Donut can do about it. And Donut just has one
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question, which is, is this being broadcast?
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Mm -hmm. Chandra tells her that only to those
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who have a media pass, you know, that's probably
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millions of people, I would guess. Well, and
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at least some of those people are on the Princess
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Posse boards. Probably, yeah. You know, I do
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wonder how, like... There's a lot of people in
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the Princess Posse, and I would imagine some
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of those people are pretty powerful individuals,
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either in media organizations or corporate conglomerates,
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etc. They have a ton of money, more money than
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they should. We are very proud of Donut here
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because she has finally learned to read. They're
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going through all these contracts, and Donut
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is very studiously reading through all of them.
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And Chandra's kind of taken aback and impressed
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by that, that she's just kind of like, going
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through and reading it and she thinks, oh, it
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must be because she knows she's been beaten and
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that there's nothing she can do about it. She
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is so stuck up. Oh, my God. Yeah, she's really
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frustrating. But I will say that I think that
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there was some information in those papers that
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Donut herself wanted to know. There's certainly
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some information in there that I wanted to know,
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which, thanks, Matt. Thanks a lot for putting
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the line in there. So that's how much the Princess
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Posse has made so far without sharing that number
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with us. Yep. So much appreciated. Yep. And that
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number in those papers is before they go after
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the crawl itself as well. So that should give
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them a couple more percentage points. And then
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this is where Jonah is like, you know, you have
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all these interesting papers, but... Carl's dad
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had some papers just like this. And, you know,
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there's something interesting about them. Well,
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and it's interesting that Donut says that she
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read them, but Carl did not. Yeah. Carl, like,
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grabbed them from his dad's trailer and then,
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like, left them on the table in their personal
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space and never looked at them. But Donut, of
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course, read through them. And Chandra's just
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like, I don't understand your point. It doesn't
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matter. All Earth contracts and documents are
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invalid. They don't matter anymore. And Donut's
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like, exactly. Invalid. Chandra is just like
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really confused and does not know what Donut
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is trying to get at here. Yeah. And then Donut
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says that you guys are really doing a terrible
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job of being ambassadors for your species. It's
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no wonder that they say all those nasty things
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about your kind on the Internet, which I will
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say that I think Princess Chandra also hates
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her people. She might hate them more than anyone
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else. Yeah. She has a lot of hatred. and disgust
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for everything about her people and their customs
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and their culture, it seems. But she seems to
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do a really good job of embodying all of the
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things she hates about them. So good job there.
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And Donut has the line that the papers from Carl's
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dad did a good job of showing the kind of person
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that Carl's dad was, quote, much the same way
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these papers paint a picture of who you are,
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Princess Chandra. Donut. Let out another sigh.
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What a sad little snake you are. I pity you.
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But there was something that was really interesting
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in here that I think was kind of a throwaway
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line, but I find interesting. And that's that
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Carl's grandparents were trying to give him money.
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Yeah, there was money that was set aside by his
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grandparents and his dad was trying to steal
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that money. Okay, so the grandparents are dead,
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I assume then. It must be. Otherwise, why wouldn't
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they be involved? Right. Yeah. Like, why wouldn't
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they have been involved? And yeah, I think that's
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the only logical conclusion to draw from that
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is like they died, you know, before everything
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went south with Carl's living situation and his
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mom dying. Yeah, I think it must be. But I mean,
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like, I had all my grandparents until five years
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ago and I'm 40. So it's just it's a different
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mindset. But that does happen for some people.
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It does. And, you know, what a terrible piece
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of shit Carl's dad was. You know, no wonder both
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of his wives tried to kill him. Well. One tried
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to and the other successfully did. But yeah,
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Chandra does not like being called a sad little
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snake. She is not sad and she does deserve this.
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She has worked hard for everything she has. We
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know that because she said it 30 fucking times.
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At least. She's like, you know, I know that this
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creature has an acid tongue. I'm prepared for
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this. You know, I shouldn't let her get under
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my skin. Well, and she goes off on Donut and
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she's like, Earth no longer exists. So, like,
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why are you still talking about the papers? And
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she's like, yes, I'm wondering what will happen
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when you no longer exist. Mm hmm. And who wants
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to read this great quote? No, sweetie, you are
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attempting to steal from the princess posse.
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And the princess posse is more than just myself
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and Carl. Don't you see what just happened? You
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think you being out there outside the dungeon
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is protecting you? Mm -hmm. And I don't know
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why Chandra would be under that illusion that
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she is safe just because she's outside the dungeon.
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Like, she has to see everything that's going
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on. Yeah, and that they're changing things in
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ways that have never happened before. Well, and
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that, you know, the freaking AI is, you know,
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growing its presence larger and larger and larger.
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Well, she said that she hadn't been paying attention.
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Maybe she was only paying attention to the money
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aspect and kind of glossed over the whole crazy
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AI aspect. She has to be aware, though. But I
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mean, like, people think that the center system
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is still going to be safe, at least for a while.
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So, you know, she wants to get there. But yeah,
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anyways. She seems deeply stupid to me. Mm hmm.
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Um, she she has some glaring blind spots for
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sure. Yeah. So Donut says so. As my lawyer, could
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I tell people that I'm offering 50 million credits
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for whoever kills you? And she's like, no, of
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course not. So, you know, Donut does the whole.
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Well, then I'm definitely not offering 50 million
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credits to anyone who takes care of this snake
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for me. And another five million if they make
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her head into a hat, which obviously. Which I'm
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like, Donut, that's five million dollars. But
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it's nothing. I think that. the net worth of
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the princess posse is in the trillions, if not
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quadrillions, probably. Well, that makes the
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next line very interesting, which is that Princess
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Chandra only paid 60k for a hit on Quasar, which
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if she... is looking at papers that says that
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the princess posse is worth billions of dollars.
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Maybe you should pay a little bit more money
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than that. Yeah, sounds like she was being cheap.
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Yeah, and she starts kind of losing her shit
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here. And then all of a sudden her two Turin
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hitmen that she hired, like send her a message
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and ask for a meeting and to meet up in person,
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which is their normal way of meeting and talking
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about things. But it completely rattles her that
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they reach out at this exact moment and have
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questions about the job. But like... Once again,
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deeply stupid. Yeah. Like, you know, maybe if
21:45
you have all of this money now, you should up
21:48
your your your amounts that you're paying people
21:50
a little bit to make sure that, you know, they
21:52
don't flip on you. Because I think that this
21:55
person, Chandra, like has to be smart enough
21:59
to know like everyone can be bought. She bribed
22:02
a judge like, come on now. This is where she
22:06
starts really losing her shit. Yeah. Like she
22:08
starts getting really nervous and just completely
22:10
falling apart. And she makes this note that.
22:13
you know, she's looking at Donut and looking
22:15
at her eyes and that she had never seen such
22:17
intensity in someone's eyes, not even her uncle
22:20
when he was talking about his plans for overthrowing
22:23
the Naga Sultanate. She's like, I gotta get the
22:26
fuck out of here. Like, she's just like, I gotta
22:28
leave. I'm not safe where I am. And she has to
22:31
grab some papers off the table, but Donut has
22:33
jumped up on the table at this point. And she's
22:36
still, even though Donut's just a hologram, can't
22:38
bring herself to reach through Donut's hologram
22:41
to grab the papers off the table. Yeah, and then
22:43
she leaned in towards Princess Chandra and let
22:47
out a low growl like she was going to pounce.
22:49
Yeah, and then since Bree got the last great
22:51
donut quote, the end of this episode I feel like
22:54
is mostly just amazing donut quotes, but we knew
22:56
that that's what was going to happen. And Donut
23:00
Whispers, since you're new to this, let me give
23:03
you your first lesson on being a princess. Lesson
23:06
one. Don't put yourself in situations where you're
23:10
so afraid that you piss yourself. It shows a
23:12
lack of decorum. It's just as absolutely amazing.
23:16
And Chandra looks down and she knew she hadn't
23:20
pissed herself, but she looked. And for that,
23:23
she was humiliated and she lost. Yeah. And she
23:27
said, I didn't. And Donut says, not yet. Mm hmm.
23:33
So this was amazing. And, you know, there was
23:35
just so much fanfare and so much excitement around
23:39
finding out who Carl's wife was. And this was
23:43
just so much payoff. And it was so good. It was
23:47
so good and so worth it. And like getting to
23:49
read this on Patreon the first time was absolutely
23:54
amazing. And, you know, how awesome this chapter
23:57
was. Even though it's just conversation, it still
24:01
has an action -packed kind of feel to it. Well,
24:04
and it really needed this hook for it of things
24:06
happening outside the dungeon before we get back
24:09
to the wacky races. Right. And I will say that
24:12
this chapter is so great that then going into
24:15
the actual beginning of Book 8 was almost like,
24:18
because you're just dealing with in -dungeon
24:20
stuff and they're in these races and you're kind
24:21
of like, oh man. That's where it was kind of
24:23
like this bit of a shock of vibe from end of
24:27
Book 7. this chapter and then into kind of just
24:31
normal dungeon day -to -day floor stuff. Well,
24:35
and I just, I really didn't think that this book
24:37
was just going to be like going through floor
24:39
10. I thought the dungeon was broken. I mean,
24:43
I thought that at the end of book seven. Yeah.
24:45
But we'll see. We'll see about book nine. I think
24:49
that maybe it really is broken this time and
24:53
that also just the ascendancy games will be something
24:55
different. I mean, there's definitely got to
24:57
be something different. I know. I really struggled
25:00
with the card system and I really struggled with
25:02
the races. But I think the reason I struggled
25:04
with the races is because I was so much more
25:07
interested in everything going on that I didn't
25:10
really want to read about Satan throwing out
25:13
one -liners in a water park, you know? And talking
25:16
about cars going into his butthole. This is a
25:19
cars going into butthole book. We knew that going
25:21
in. Did we? That's definitely what the rest of
25:24
the series is like. But, you know, that's part
25:26
of what makes it so interesting for me is that
25:28
there's so many diverse reasons that people like
25:31
it. And it has, you know, so much things that
25:33
other people like. Apparently, one of our friends
25:35
loved the card system. And I was like, oh, interesting.
25:39
Those people play Magic the Gathering. New achievement.
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