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Full Episode: Professional Tennis influencer Kamau Murray & Magnolia Network series host & entrepreneur Jonathan Morris · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna calling a good friend you straight out of
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Speaker 1: Fort Worth, Texas most of the Magnolia Network series Self Employed.
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Speaker 1: The show is streaming on the Magnolia App and Discovery Plus.
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Speaker 1: Entrepreneur Jonathan Morris travels the country to share the racial
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Speaker 1: stories and new challenges of small business owners and their
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Speaker 1: journeys to building their dream jobs. The show features entrepreneurs
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Speaker 1: from a variety of backgrounds and in Fort Worth, he
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Speaker 1: owns a barbershop in the hotel. We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: all that, of course the TV show Self Imployed, but
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Speaker 1: we're also gonna talk about building his dreams please working
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Speaker 1: the money making conversations for the very first time. Jonathan Morris,
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Speaker 1: how he's doing, Jonathan are you doing this morning? So?
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Speaker 1: So you know got fort Worth right there? Man? Logo
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Speaker 1: on your shirt A chest man, I want to wear
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Speaker 1: for Worth on my heart. Man. I love this. I
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Speaker 1: love this city. I love everything. I love most things
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Speaker 1: about it. It's a it's a it's a growing city.
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Speaker 1: Like people don't know where the twelfth largest city in
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Speaker 1: the nation. Now, quietly that I did not know. If
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Speaker 1: you give me your perspective, Like I'm from Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: You go up forty five north. You know we're fort
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Speaker 1: Worth in Dallas. You know, so Dallas is always the
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Speaker 1: dominant market. You have all itt in fort Worth, Dallas.
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Speaker 1: And so now he's telling me, now fort Worth is
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Speaker 1: the twelfth largest city. Now that's news to everybody knows.
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Speaker 1: Every everybody knows our our big brother, a big brother
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Speaker 1: to the to the east, Dallas. Um. Before words, we're
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Speaker 1: a little maybe a little more understated a little, but
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Speaker 1: we're doing I think out there there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good things happening in
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Speaker 1: the city. Now, you know, you're you're I brought you
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Speaker 1: on the show to talk about this new show on
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Speaker 1: Magnolia Network called Self Employed. Set us up a little
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Speaker 1: bit about what exactly that show is because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that you are a barbershop on I believe you've been.
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Speaker 1: You had that shop about six years, correct years some years,
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Speaker 1: and so I'm fair for me with that range because
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Speaker 1: my brother, my younger brother, he's in the DC area,
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Speaker 1: he has four and so so when the COVID hit,
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Speaker 1: you know it really you know, we was just talking
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Speaker 1: about the opening because he couldn't open because he was
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Speaker 1: face to face a service oriented business and that you
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Speaker 1: that was like five going into your six year talk
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Speaker 1: about how COVID impacted your business and how did you
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Speaker 1: recover from it? You know it. You know, in March
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Speaker 1: of UM, as the rest of the world was experiencing,
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Speaker 1: um what this new uh, this new hurdle that we
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Speaker 1: were all facing together, UM was was hitting us. The
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Speaker 1: barbershop industry was one that was especially hit our business.
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Speaker 1: Like you said, we are literally face to face UM,
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Speaker 1: and you know, inches away from folks face. So when
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Speaker 1: it comes to congregating, it was a no go. So UM.
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Speaker 1: You know, the toughest thing was Shawn for for for
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Speaker 1: me as a business owner, was the uncertainty UM and
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Speaker 1: dealing with it not knowing, you know, once we close,
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Speaker 1: not knowing when we'd be able to open up. And
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Speaker 1: you know, as a as an employer, UM and having
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Speaker 1: to go to my team, UM, of of of a
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Speaker 1: barber's and stylist who you know, this is their livelihood,
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Speaker 1: going to them and saying, hey, guys, not only UM,
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Speaker 1: do I not have a job for you in this moment,
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Speaker 1: I also don't know when UM, I'm going to But
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Speaker 1: if you hang on, you know, Luckily for us, you know,
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Speaker 1: being a small team, you know, it's it's like a
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Speaker 1: it's like a little little family, you know, UM. And
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Speaker 1: we had to check in on each other and we
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Speaker 1: have to make sure we're doing okay. We went we
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Speaker 1: went two months UM completely closed until opening back up
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Speaker 1: in May. And when we opened back up, we opened
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Speaker 1: up with a lot of safeguards, right. We wanted to
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Speaker 1: UM make sure that as we were inviting people back
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Speaker 1: into the space, UM we were doing so as as responsibly,
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Speaker 1: um as possible to to create a safe environment for
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Speaker 1: our for our for our customers, but then also our
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Speaker 1: our staff. And so the community responded really well. A
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Speaker 1: lot of them came back to us, um um and
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Speaker 1: you know, we we we've been able to bounce back,
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Speaker 1: but we're still you know, very much um in this
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Speaker 1: tricky space. As as small businesses, particularly ones that are
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Speaker 1: dealing face to face with the public. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Jonathan Morris. He has a barbershop and
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Speaker 1: a hotel we're gonna talk about that in a minute
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Speaker 1: in the fourth Worth area Fort Worth, Texas, as he
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Speaker 1: calls it. Uh. He's an entrepreneur and the host of
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Speaker 1: the new series on Magnolia app and Discovery Plus series
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Speaker 1: called Self Employed. Now, I bring up these different conversations
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Speaker 1: because everybody has a different role a different impact with COVID.
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Speaker 1: Like I would tell you something, John, I didn't know
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Speaker 1: what to do, you know, And so when you were
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Speaker 1: servicing customers that closed, it had to be a little fearful,
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Speaker 1: but you had to move past a fear to run
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Speaker 1: your business. Are to operate your business carefully and uh safely. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I think that for us, that was that was
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Speaker 1: rooted in how we communicated with our with our clients
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Speaker 1: and even how we communicated with our staff. Um that
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Speaker 1: you know, we were luckily to be be open again.
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Speaker 1: We're luckily, we're we're we're lucky to be able to
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Speaker 1: provide a service to our community. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: we understand that people are apprehensive, um and we you know,
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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, wanted to hold that and
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Speaker 1: through that and communicate with them that, you know, we
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Speaker 1: wanted to create an assay environment as we possibly could
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Speaker 1: given the circumstances of a global pante There was no
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Speaker 1: there was no there was no book written on how
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Speaker 1: to how to go about it. Right, there's the same
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Speaker 1: part because like I said, I didn't know how to
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Speaker 1: opened the door. I didn't know all the podcast, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know how to say a load of people in public.
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Speaker 1: It was just really really a life of isolation. And
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Speaker 1: then you're a people of person. I can tell your personality.
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Speaker 1: You're such you're so engaging, which is probably one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons you're the host of the new series. How
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Speaker 1: did they come about the whole self employed? Give everybody assists?
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Speaker 1: So I gave a you know my cliff note of
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Speaker 1: what self employed is, tell us what it is and
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Speaker 1: how you became the host. Yeah. Sure, so you know,
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Speaker 1: I I never set out to host the television show.
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Speaker 1: One day back in twenty nineteen, I gotta I got
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Speaker 1: a phone call from a good friend of mine who
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Speaker 1: owns a video production company here in Fort Worth, UM,
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Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, I've been meeting with the Magnolia
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Speaker 1: people and we kind of pitched them on an idea
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Speaker 1: of a TV show. Um. They like what you're doing
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Speaker 1: with your barbershop and for Worth um. And we uh,
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Speaker 1: we started that discussion of what what what this TV
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Speaker 1: show could be, what it could look like. And of course,
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Speaker 1: you know I told them, I say, listen, I'm not
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Speaker 1: an actor. I'm just an entrepreneur um and and I
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Speaker 1: love engaging with other entrepreneurs and learning about their stories.
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Speaker 1: And I find myself to be particularly inspired by other
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and people who are following their dreams, writing right
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Speaker 1: in righting there, writing their own story. As you said, um,
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Speaker 1: and you know, uh, we crafted this show where I
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Speaker 1: go around the country and I meet with people across
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Speaker 1: different backgrounds who who who landed into entrepreneurship, and becoming
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Speaker 1: self employed from all all walks of life who are
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Speaker 1: running you know, all different sized businesses. Right. Um, So
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Speaker 1: we traveled around the country and we sat down to
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Speaker 1: tell you about learn their stories. You know, your personality
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Speaker 1: really helps the series. Okay, you know, you meeting different people,
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Speaker 1: but you engage and you you you you have a
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Speaker 1: welcoming personality and Jumathan and I think that really helps
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Speaker 1: the series. Well, you know, you know, rich like, I'm
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Speaker 1: just curious, you know, and when I'm sitting down and
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Speaker 1: talking with these these entrepreneurs, you know, in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways, I can empathize with a lot of the
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Speaker 1: things they've been going through. Um. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: so long as they allow me to just be myself,
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Speaker 1: uh and ask the questions that I would want to ask,
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Speaker 1: you know, ask folks even if the cameras weren't even rolling.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think that that's what has made the
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Speaker 1: show fun. And you know, people, um have been really
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Speaker 1: inspired by it. And I hope that more people see
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Speaker 1: the people that we're featuring on the show, and you know,
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Speaker 1: they take the lead to pursue their own dreams and um,
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Speaker 1: even if even if they're not entrepreneurs, we hope that
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Speaker 1: this this show really helps people to know that even
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Speaker 1: supporting entrepreneurs, supporting small businesses, um, we can all play
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Speaker 1: a part in what that looks like in our communities.
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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about it, because you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur, you know, you're a marketer and social media.
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Speaker 1: Now you're on you know you you you look you
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Speaker 1: was a star. You started for Word Texas area. Now
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Speaker 1: now you're on the TV show, you on the app
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Speaker 1: Magnolia are growing the Disney Discovery plus you see a
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Speaker 1: commercial one that every time you turn on TV. And
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Speaker 1: so now you're getting into the social media aspect. What
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Speaker 1: has changed about this New Foul Fame. It's gonna grow
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Speaker 1: because the more the show gets popular, the more people
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Speaker 1: download the show and watch the show. How does that
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Speaker 1: allowed you to like work on your brand or grow
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Speaker 1: your brand outside of the television show, you know, as
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Speaker 1: a as a small business owner. You know, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm I've been over the last three years in the
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Speaker 1: middle of you know, working on this show. I've been
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Speaker 1: working on my new business, which is this small this
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Speaker 1: twenty one room hotel and for Worth and so you know,
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Speaker 1: the more the more platform or opportunities that I have
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Speaker 1: to to tell people about UM to talk about entrepreneurship.
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Speaker 1: I hope that it helps to feed you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: my little baby, my my my new business. As we're
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Speaker 1: you know, venturing into this this this, this new you
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Speaker 1: know for me, untraveled territory and so UM, the more
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Speaker 1: people that that that we can reach and we can
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Speaker 1: speak to and UM share share this idea of of
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Speaker 1: what you know and in this, in this, in this
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Speaker 1: regard what a hotel can be in for Word, Texas, UM,
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Speaker 1: let's slide over to that hotel, because you know you
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Speaker 1: have a locally owned boutique hotel and bar and for
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Speaker 1: words and cultural district, and you know, it's a lot
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Speaker 1: of things I've done in my life. I thought about
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Speaker 1: doing a restaurant. I've thought about you know, I thought,
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Speaker 1: of course, I was a performing comedian acting just a modeling,
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Speaker 1: I managed talent, but a hotel that I only stay
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Speaker 1: a boutique hotel with a bar, talk about that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So you know, the idea of a hotel for me
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Speaker 1: came from you know, traveling and when I travel, I
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Speaker 1: sense of a place. Right. Um. And as I looked
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Speaker 1: you know in a way that I would. Obviously I've
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Speaker 1: square feet. Um. So, different price ranges, different views of
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Speaker 1: to to attract traveler, the traveler that we felt like
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Speaker 1: independent boutique hotel kmical Field. Well, you know the interesting
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Speaker 1: thing I'm talking to Jonathan Morris. He's the host of
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Speaker 1: Self Imployed on the Magnolia app. That's what you can
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Speaker 1: find and also on Discover, the Plus streaming network. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The reason I was just talking about this entrepreneurship because
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna host the show called self
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Speaker 1: employd you should know something. Okay, he knows. The one
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Speaker 1: thing he does know the people business. You know, he's
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Speaker 1: in the he's a barbershop owner, hotel owner. If those
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Speaker 1: and also be service oriented. Now when he when he
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Speaker 1: talks about a hotel, Drice, it reminds me of a
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Speaker 1: New York hotel. And so because if you if you
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Speaker 1: go to New York City. It wasn't the size that
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Speaker 1: he said freaked me out. He said five hundred square feet.
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Speaker 1: The two hundred square feet. Okay, cool, I've been in
18:30
Speaker 1: the two hundred square feet. You open that door, that's
18:32
Speaker 1: the bed. Guess work that you you're the TV right there.
18:37
Speaker 1: The little bit of TV right there, bathroom right there.
18:41
Speaker 1: You know you're in that bed, not that you're in
18:43
Speaker 1: there two d scraarefoot room not to entertain, but to
18:46
Speaker 1: go to sleep. That's why I read Glord. After a
18:49
Speaker 1: long night you put you your hang upboard everything and
18:52
Speaker 1: the thing about those whom they are, So I'm gonna
18:54
Speaker 1: used to work cute from a standpoint of everything's right there?
18:57
Speaker 1: Am I telling us the true? Jonathan? You know I
19:00
Speaker 1: like to use the word concise, Okay, practical, right right,
19:04
Speaker 1: right right, because you want to do you want to
19:07
Speaker 1: create a space that you know you have everything you
19:09
Speaker 1: need is affordable. Um And ultimately what we want to
19:13
Speaker 1: do is we want to get people out into our city.
19:14
Speaker 1: We want to get people absolutely absolutely to discovers offer.
19:20
Speaker 1: Because that's why I wanted to stop people because people
19:22
Speaker 1: here a number two hundred crab feet. That's well, look,
19:25
Speaker 1: I'm just tell you something. Sean McDonald and stayed in
19:27
Speaker 1: many two hundred scrapfoot When you go in there, that's
19:31
Speaker 1: what I'm just preparing everybody. When you go in there,
19:33
Speaker 1: when you open the door, you will see the bad
19:35
Speaker 1: you will see you will see the TV, you will
19:38
Speaker 1: see the restroom door. But it's all good. Like you said,
19:41
Speaker 1: it's convenient. It's like staying in a cruise ship if
19:45
Speaker 1: you've been in the cruise ship, but it's bigger and
19:48
Speaker 1: it's nice. Either we're out the way without the way
19:51
Speaker 1: that you can walk out and you go about your business.
19:54
Speaker 1: But the beauty of that, the establishing that, is that
19:56
Speaker 1: his personality is in the cultural district of Fort Worth,
19:59
Speaker 1: which mean just tied to personality. And so if you
20:02
Speaker 1: go to places that New York, you go to Chicago,
20:04
Speaker 1: you go to go to San Francisco especially, you know,
20:07
Speaker 1: and you find those type of hotels when you walk
20:10
Speaker 1: down the streets. I can, I can. I can clearly
20:12
Speaker 1: see a hotel properties like that in New York because
20:14
Speaker 1: I lived there so many years and it was always fun.
20:17
Speaker 1: What has been the most dynamic and most interesting part
20:20
Speaker 1: of developing that type of hotel property in the four
20:23
Speaker 1: Worth area town, you know, for Shawn from me UM,
20:26
Speaker 1: it's been how much of the local community we've been
20:29
Speaker 1: able to impart in the design and development of the
20:32
Speaker 1: space UM with in the hotel, every room that you
20:37
Speaker 1: walk into you're going to see art from local artists
20:41
Speaker 1: UM and if by being even more if if a
20:44
Speaker 1: more transparent There are people that I call friends who
20:47
Speaker 1: are UM influencing the city through their talent, through their creativity,
20:53
Speaker 1: whether it be the photography on the walls or sculpture
20:57
Speaker 1: that we have, consources that we have UM are paintings
21:02
Speaker 1: or even down to the bed frame and the desk,
21:06
Speaker 1: or local carpenters, people that you might mess around and
21:09
Speaker 1: see at the lobby bar downstairs right after you check in.
21:12
Speaker 1: You know, it is very much UM for word, through
21:17
Speaker 1: and through, and it was just a way for us
21:19
Speaker 1: to express who we are UM as a city and
21:22
Speaker 1: and and and as uh as as the people that
21:26
Speaker 1: they live here. Absolutely, the beauty of being an entrepreneur,
21:30
Speaker 1: which is self employed, is about you know, we all
21:32
Speaker 1: have these American dreams, but we also go out there.
21:36
Speaker 1: There's your show, because I've seen a couple of episodes,
21:37
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen the entire series. Is it a
21:40
Speaker 1: is it a shot that you learn from you show?
21:43
Speaker 1: You see missteps and people overcoming missteps. Talk about the
21:47
Speaker 1: series that the granular nature of the series because you
21:50
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an entrepreneur, so I know I've made mistakes,
21:53
Speaker 1: it will make future mistakes because it's a lot of
21:55
Speaker 1: things you do on gut, you do on instinct, you
21:57
Speaker 1: do on you hear the word faith A people go
22:00
Speaker 1: out there on faith saying they don't want to work
22:03
Speaker 1: a normal job every and more. If I'm putting in
22:05
Speaker 1: eighty hours and put it right now, put eighty hours
22:07
Speaker 1: into my dream and you get that a lot out
22:09
Speaker 1: there on your show Self Imployed, talk about how you
22:12
Speaker 1: manage expectations, but also to show the upside of the
22:16
Speaker 1: show and not making it the show where you show
22:18
Speaker 1: the dark side of it. You know. I think that
22:21
Speaker 1: if there's one thing that I learned and I hope
22:24
Speaker 1: people take away from watching the show, is that every
22:26
Speaker 1: single one of these entrepreneurs that were following has had
22:32
Speaker 1: to base some level of risk, some more than others. Right.
22:36
Speaker 1: But if everyone, um to some degree is stepping out
22:39
Speaker 1: on faith, um, every single one of these entrepreneurs has
22:43
Speaker 1: hit roadblocks, obstacles has hit um uh parts of their
22:49
Speaker 1: their their journey there for a lot of people would
22:51
Speaker 1: be enough to say, you know what, that's okay with me.
22:54
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and take the W two and somebody
22:57
Speaker 1: else can uh can worry about running this this show, right, um.
23:01
Speaker 1: But they persevered through those things and the other thing
23:05
Speaker 1: that you know, every one of these entrepreneurs that we've
23:07
Speaker 1: that we've that we've UM we featured, they're all still
23:13
Speaker 1: in the learning process. Nobody has got all the answers.
23:16
Speaker 1: And I think that that is a way that really
23:19
Speaker 1: humanizes UM the small business or the or the or
23:23
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial journey for people. That I hope that people
23:26
Speaker 1: are able to see themselves UM in people right. They're
23:29
Speaker 1: able to identifying that, hey, this is this is just
23:32
Speaker 1: a person just like me UM who was able to
23:36
Speaker 1: uh step out their on faith UM and and bring
23:39
Speaker 1: their dreams of life. Here's the interesting to Jonathan, because
23:41
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read a quote from an article that you had.
23:43
Speaker 1: You know, we'll learn about their stories about self imployed.
23:47
Speaker 1: We'll learn about their stories and learn about where they
23:49
Speaker 1: have been where they are right now, what the challenges are,
23:52
Speaker 1: and understanding how they've had to adapt and pivot, which
23:55
Speaker 1: is important because we all pivoted during the COVID Around
23:58
Speaker 1: us is an opportunity to share a light on what
24:00
Speaker 1: it looks like for someone to take that idea and
24:04
Speaker 1: cultivate that idea enter their dream and their dream work
24:07
Speaker 1: life of being self imployed. I wish I want to
24:10
Speaker 1: say that quote first of a pretty profound quote, and
24:13
Speaker 1: I'm glad I had an opportunity to read it during
24:15
Speaker 1: our interview. Is that I look at myself and and
24:20
Speaker 1: and like you said, some people are just w two people,
24:23
Speaker 1: which means they will they will working for the hour
24:24
Speaker 1: weak jaw. And I know that the younger generation, millennial
24:28
Speaker 1: generation was really hidden hit hard. Everybody's talking about they
24:31
Speaker 1: don't want to they want to skip steps, you know,
24:33
Speaker 1: they don't want to working for the our weak jaw.
24:35
Speaker 1: But because of technology, have you seen an age difference
24:39
Speaker 1: out there when you've done your show? Is it or
24:42
Speaker 1: it's just you've just been just out there and everybody
24:44
Speaker 1: wants to be successful because I know it's as entrepreneurs,
24:47
Speaker 1: the female industry that the women have really become a
24:50
Speaker 1: dominant force as entrepreneurs, and also blacks have stepped up
24:54
Speaker 1: their game as entrepreneurs. Tell us what you're seeing out
24:57
Speaker 1: there while you're doing the show. I know you're not
24:59
Speaker 1: the ex for you five years about we can have
25:01
Speaker 1: this different conversation because you've have been everywhere all of
25:03
Speaker 1: this kind of talk about what you're seeing now? Well, um,
25:07
Speaker 1: one of the things that I wanted to make sure
25:09
Speaker 1: that we we we did before we before we even
25:12
Speaker 1: started filming it is I want to show a diverse
25:15
Speaker 1: range of entrepreneurs. And so we talked to you to
25:20
Speaker 1: some some younger folks UH that are in the in
25:23
Speaker 1: the earlier stages of the entrepreneur and we've talked to
25:26
Speaker 1: we talked to some folks that are a little bit
25:28
Speaker 1: older and they've been doing it for a while. UM.
25:30
Speaker 1: And again I just hope that again people are able
25:32
Speaker 1: to see themselves and identify with that. But I do
25:36
Speaker 1: think that UM, particularly UM demographics that are underrepresented in
25:44
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial space, UM can see themselves, whether that be women,
25:50
Speaker 1: whether that be people of color, UM being able to
25:53
Speaker 1: see themselves represented. I think it's huge and I'm just
25:56
Speaker 1: I'm just glad we were able to do that. We
25:59
Speaker 1: talked all allow all ethnicities, UH parts of the country,
26:04
Speaker 1: and and that that's me It was really important. But
26:06
Speaker 1: I do think that you know, over these next few years,
26:09
Speaker 1: and I think that the pandemic is one of the
26:11
Speaker 1: things that's going to be UH will have been a
26:13
Speaker 1: catalyst for it is more and more people UM stepping
26:18
Speaker 1: out and and pursuing their dreams, taking those those those
26:22
Speaker 1: dreams from ideas to to reality. And that's true. Technology.
26:26
Speaker 1: Technology has been a different game changer for so many
26:28
Speaker 1: people to pursue their dreams. But also the reality is
26:31
Speaker 1: that the pandemic has made everybody to see that there
26:34
Speaker 1: is a finite opportunity. There's a window. If you don't
26:37
Speaker 1: take that window, if you're not happy with the wind
26:38
Speaker 1: are you looking through, then you can change it and
26:41
Speaker 1: you can change about putting forth a plan, rules in
26:44
Speaker 1: plays and winning with that. What is your bigger takeaway?
26:47
Speaker 1: Because the beauty of me and I want to maintain
26:49
Speaker 1: a friendship with you, Jonathan, and because of the fact
26:52
Speaker 1: that you're so engaging and you you you you say
26:56
Speaker 1: natural stories that a lot of people understand, Like you said,
26:58
Speaker 1: well know, I said, I want to I want to
27:01
Speaker 1: be in the hotel business, you know, and win the team.
27:03
Speaker 1: I get the phone call they say, hey, man, we
27:05
Speaker 1: got this idea we want to pitch. None of this
27:07
Speaker 1: is like you know, he's one of these guys who
27:09
Speaker 1: walks through, he sees an opportunity, he grabs it, and
27:12
Speaker 1: he matures it. And that's what being an entrepreneur is.
27:15
Speaker 1: And I want to let everybody know that's why he's
27:17
Speaker 1: an excellent host, because he goes through life, but he's
27:21
Speaker 1: a planner and he's not afraid of diet as they say,
27:24
Speaker 1: multiple streets of income, or diversifying his portfolio because some
27:28
Speaker 1: people say, I'm in the restaurant business, that's all I'm
27:30
Speaker 1: gonna do. Now you're in the barbershop business, you're in
27:32
Speaker 1: the hotel business. Now you're on TV as a host.
27:36
Speaker 1: What drives that level of confidence to diversify and trust
27:40
Speaker 1: your talents? A couple of things. Number One. One thing
27:44
Speaker 1: I do a lot is it is just for me.
27:46
Speaker 1: I write down I did every day. Some of them
27:50
Speaker 1: are good ones, some of them are bad ones. Some
27:52
Speaker 1: of them will see the light of day. Some of
27:53
Speaker 1: them will be balled up and thrown in the trash.
27:57
Speaker 1: And but and that's that's just that's just kind of
28:00
Speaker 1: that's what I do. That's my my my method that works.
28:03
Speaker 1: That that works for me. Writing down ideas, UM, writing
28:06
Speaker 1: down those dreams before they even become, you know, a
28:11
Speaker 1: fleshed out plan. But also I think you know, understanding
28:16
Speaker 1: and recognizing what opportunity looks like. UM. I think that
28:21
Speaker 1: a lot of times I hear of folks, you know,
28:24
Speaker 1: when they think about opportunity, the only thing, the only
28:26
Speaker 1: opportunity they look for is one that look like a
28:29
Speaker 1: paycheck and connect connected to it, right, And a lot
28:32
Speaker 1: of times that that thing that opens up the next
28:35
Speaker 1: door to the next door to the to that that
28:40
Speaker 1: that money making conversation, right. Uh, sometimes you don't always
28:44
Speaker 1: got dollars attached to it. But I think that, you know,
28:46
Speaker 1: building relationships even just like you just said, you know,
28:50
Speaker 1: that phone call that I got from a friend about
28:52
Speaker 1: a TV show that he was gonna that was a
28:54
Speaker 1: relationship that we have fostered for years running to what
28:58
Speaker 1: is now my business part um in the hotel in
29:01
Speaker 1: the hotel project that brings a completely different skill set
29:05
Speaker 1: to the to the table than than I do. That's
29:08
Speaker 1: a that was relationship building, um over years way before
29:12
Speaker 1: the thing that was the thing that the thing that
29:15
Speaker 1: people see you know came you know, came to fruition.
29:18
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm a big believer in and
29:22
Speaker 1: fostering and leaning into relationships. Um. You know, I am
29:26
Speaker 1: not an expert and just about anything, but um, I
29:30
Speaker 1: think that I have a hunger for knowledge and it's
29:34
Speaker 1: a natural curiosity. Um. And a lot of times, you know,
29:38
Speaker 1: for me, when when I see that somebody else has
29:41
Speaker 1: done something, I gotta think to myself, well I could
29:44
Speaker 1: I could do that too, um. And so sometimes just
29:48
Speaker 1: it means finding the right people to connect with, to
29:51
Speaker 1: to to to to put yourself in a right position
29:54
Speaker 1: for the opportunity that leads to the opportunity, that leads
29:57
Speaker 1: to the opportunity. So well, I would tell you his brother. Uh.
30:01
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30:23
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30:26
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Speaker 1: He is a founder and CEO of x S Tennis,
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33:51
Speaker 1: I watch you so much? And the professional tennis coach,
33:54
Speaker 1: which is really key because of the most proud thing
33:57
Speaker 1: I like to talk about these An HBCU Grab. He's
34:00
Speaker 1: a alarm. He's out there and the HBC's are getting
34:03
Speaker 1: so much notoriety nowadays, and it's great to see that
34:06
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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about his experience and his
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34:20
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34:23
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Speaker 1: Village in Washington Park is a sixteen point nine million
34:31
Speaker 1: dollar Black owned and operated tennis facility. Is one of
34:35
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34:39
Speaker 1: Murder see a tennis scholarship I said earlier Florida A
34:42
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34:46
Speaker 1: also served as a graduate assistant coach. HBC graduates only
34:49
Speaker 1: the third African American coach to approach to coach a
34:53
Speaker 1: Grand Slam champion. We're trying to show to talk about
34:56
Speaker 1: his programs, UH, what he's doing. His future is gonna
34:59
Speaker 1: be like about the state of tennis not only for
35:02
Speaker 1: African Americans, but just tennis in general. This weekend that
35:05
Speaker 1: the years open, we saw it got really young, but
35:08
Speaker 1: we also saw a lot of great talent. That is
35:10
Speaker 1: like when we talked about Coco Golf, Sloan Stevens, so
35:13
Speaker 1: a person he coaching. He's coached. So welcome to money
35:17
Speaker 1: making conversation. I'm calling my friend because he knows a
35:19
Speaker 1: lot of people I know, come out, Murry, where would
35:23
Speaker 1: this show come out? Thank you for having me. Glad
35:26
Speaker 1: to be here. Well, you know made uh you know tennis.
35:29
Speaker 1: You know when you talk about black people in tennis,
35:31
Speaker 1: you know you're all the way back to the author asked,
35:32
Speaker 1: and if you go even further author Gibson, and then continued,
35:36
Speaker 1: then the Williams sisters have dominated it and it's kind
35:39
Speaker 1: of made like, uh that the blacks have really started
35:42
Speaker 1: populating the game, But really it still is a game
35:46
Speaker 1: where blacks are still trying to find their way on
35:48
Speaker 1: the tennis court. Am I right? And making that accession
35:51
Speaker 1: that that that statement, Yeah, I mean we don't have
35:54
Speaker 1: the generational lineage, uh that you know white people do, right,
35:59
Speaker 1: You know, I think that you know a lot of
36:01
Speaker 1: a lot of the reasons why some of these kids
36:03
Speaker 1: make it as their parents played in college and their
36:05
Speaker 1: parents parents played in college, so you know, after there
36:09
Speaker 1: is a total trial and error game in terms of
36:11
Speaker 1: trying to make a professional tennis player, and very few
36:14
Speaker 1: parents get it right the first time. And so the
36:18
Speaker 1: kid that doesn't make it right whose parents groomed them,
36:21
Speaker 1: their kids perhaps might make it because now they don't
36:23
Speaker 1: have to search around and they know, hey, at this age,
36:27
Speaker 1: you go to this person. At this age, you go
36:28
Speaker 1: to this person. Then you go play this tournament. So
36:31
Speaker 1: you know, you know what why you know why people
36:34
Speaker 1: have more uh lineage in the game because they've just
36:39
Speaker 1: been doing it long. You know, back in the day, uh,
36:42
Speaker 1: you know, black people and Jewish people were not allowed
36:44
Speaker 1: to join tennis clubs and so um, you know, Jewish
36:47
Speaker 1: people had the wherewith all to create their own tennis club.
36:50
Speaker 1: So you have clubs like York Rackets in Toronto or
36:52
Speaker 1: Hill Crest out in l A. But black people did
36:55
Speaker 1: not have that same opportunity. You know, we may have
36:57
Speaker 1: taken over park and called it the club, but if
37:00
Speaker 1: it's a part and no indoor opportunity, so I think
37:02
Speaker 1: that we're playing catch up as it relates to um,
37:07
Speaker 1: you know, black tennis players who have played in college
37:11
Speaker 1: now having kids and now knowing the road. And so
37:15
Speaker 1: once we start, once those kids kind of come of age,
37:18
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see the last gape of tends to
37:20
Speaker 1: be a lot more colorful. You know my daughter, you
37:22
Speaker 1: know who, I love her to death. You know she
37:24
Speaker 1: started she picked up a record when she was six
37:26
Speaker 1: years old and so basically getting played it because she
37:29
Speaker 1: was eighteen years of agent. She blew out on the
37:31
Speaker 1: A C L injury and I saw that process. That process'
37:35
Speaker 1: is a you know, it's a very um I want
37:38
Speaker 1: to say, it's a it's it's you know, you're out
37:40
Speaker 1: there with a coach, a lodge. You get up a
37:42
Speaker 1: lot of your personal life to be what is it
37:44
Speaker 1: when you look at it? Because you did the same thing.
37:46
Speaker 1: This is your story too, because you know the amount
37:47
Speaker 1: of time you have to put in on that court
37:49
Speaker 1: and sometimes the social life is not going to be
37:52
Speaker 1: part of that. But you were blessed, I would say,
37:54
Speaker 1: because you got to go to college. A lot of
37:56
Speaker 1: these kids don't go to college, and so life kind
37:58
Speaker 1: of stops for them. From an entertainment perspective, on the tour.
38:02
Speaker 1: That's their world. And so talk about you as a
38:05
Speaker 1: youngster getting into tennis and how important it was for
38:09
Speaker 1: you to gain some type of social behavior when you
38:12
Speaker 1: went to family. Yeah, you know, I think that the
38:16
Speaker 1: individual nature of the sport caused the tennis players to
38:20
Speaker 1: be a little bit behind socially, not as comfortable being
38:24
Speaker 1: around people. Has been a lot more time in isolation
38:27
Speaker 1: or just in the car with their parents, driving you know,
38:30
Speaker 1: to and from the tenants court for hours. And so,
38:33
Speaker 1: I mean it is a fact that tennis players are
38:36
Speaker 1: are developed slower on a social aspect compared to you know, basketball,
38:40
Speaker 1: football players who spend so much time with each other. Um.
38:44
Speaker 1: But I you know, I think that you know, obviously
38:47
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go to college. Um, you know,
38:51
Speaker 1: allow me to definitely gain some social skills, but it
38:53
Speaker 1: all goes over the cost. You know. I didn't want
38:54
Speaker 1: to play protenants, you know. Um, I would not say
38:57
Speaker 1: that if I had the opportunity to play protendants and
38:59
Speaker 1: seven teen years old, that going to college just to
39:02
Speaker 1: get socialized would have been a good thing. I would
39:05
Speaker 1: have gone and taking out opportunity. I didn't really want
39:07
Speaker 1: to play pro tennis. Wasn't good enough, wasn't interested, didn't
39:11
Speaker 1: have the lineage or to know how. Um, but I
39:14
Speaker 1: do think that having been a good tennis player, uh,
39:18
Speaker 1: and been very cerebral and and prep and mentally present
39:22
Speaker 1: during the entire process. When you combine that with my
39:25
Speaker 1: HBC experience and going to college, getting educated, getting a
39:29
Speaker 1: master's degree, getting socialized, that did allow me to enter
39:34
Speaker 1: the professional tennis or Berck right. I mean it is
39:37
Speaker 1: like the most closest knick club you can have. Um.
39:42
Speaker 1: It allowed me to enter it with a sense of confidence. Um.
39:47
Speaker 1: You know, so I would say it was definitely going
39:50
Speaker 1: to college having had the experience of being a good
39:54
Speaker 1: player help me now, you know, now you have to
39:57
Speaker 1: come out you kind of like you know, you said
39:58
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't want to do pro. I didn't
40:00
Speaker 1: have the skill set for being pro. But then you
40:03
Speaker 1: got a scholarship. So somebody saw something talent did you
40:05
Speaker 1: you know, and and it took you to the state
40:08
Speaker 1: of Florida. And so but how did you get come out?
40:11
Speaker 1: How did you get involved with tennis? How did what
40:13
Speaker 1: age that you started? Who? Why did he become a
40:16
Speaker 1: love for you? Because this is what you do now
40:18
Speaker 1: is a passion. Yeah, so I would say it wasn't
40:22
Speaker 1: necessarily a love all the time. You know, my my brother,
40:27
Speaker 1: my older brother played you know, big time basketball. He's
40:30
Speaker 1: like six nine to sixty now, but he Uh, my
40:34
Speaker 1: parents took his as his a U team to Africa. Uh,
40:38
Speaker 1: and we came back in the middle of the summer,
40:41
Speaker 1: and all the tennis clamps, all the tenis camps were closed.
40:44
Speaker 1: All the camps are closed in my neighborhood and only
40:47
Speaker 1: camp that was still accepting enrollment was a tennis camp
40:51
Speaker 1: because they basically had three people enrolled in it because
40:53
Speaker 1: nobody in my neighborhood wanted to uh. And so you know,
40:57
Speaker 1: I I stumbled upon the game. My godfather, Reggie was
41:00
Speaker 1: a tennis player, and he said, hey, you need somewhere
41:02
Speaker 1: to babysit. Com out, go ahead and take them just
41:05
Speaker 1: on his park on eighty seven. And Jeffrey and my
41:08
Speaker 1: mom took me there, really just hoping to be able
41:10
Speaker 1: to drop me off and get some cheap babysitting, right. Um.
41:13
Speaker 1: You know, so it's it just uh, it just happened
41:17
Speaker 1: that way. And then you know, even then, I you know,
41:22
Speaker 1: didn't love it. You know, I was leaving my tennis
41:24
Speaker 1: racket and the gardeners can at the courts because I
41:26
Speaker 1: was my daughter to wrap transportation, you know what I mean,
41:30
Speaker 1: So I I it was. It was like a walk
41:32
Speaker 1: of shame almost home from the tennis court for a
41:36
Speaker 1: long time, until I started to get decent. I had
41:39
Speaker 1: some success and had a sense of pride for myself.
41:42
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you know you're right about you know, socially,
41:47
Speaker 1: you know you are behind your skill set. I was
41:50
Speaker 1: telling to my work the worse she coun eventually catch up,
41:53
Speaker 1: I said, when she goes to college and starts meaning
41:55
Speaker 1: with people. Because you're out there by yourself from a standpoint,
41:58
Speaker 1: but what you do get you do mature faster from
42:01
Speaker 1: a standpoint. If that's what you want, you have to
42:03
Speaker 1: work hard for You have to be disciplined, You have
42:05
Speaker 1: to arrive at a certain times, you have to put
42:07
Speaker 1: in a certain amount of hours. So it does prepare
42:09
Speaker 1: you for life. So when you open your tennis village,
42:13
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, everybody's not gonna be a
42:14
Speaker 1: Venus Williams or Serena Williams, or or anybody else who
42:18
Speaker 1: has a high skill level of the current pro what
42:20
Speaker 1: is the purpose of opening up your tennis academy or
42:23
Speaker 1: the exx tennis village. So you know, when I was
42:27
Speaker 1: growing up, after that summer when I started playing tennis,
42:31
Speaker 1: I found a free program at the High Park Racquetball
42:33
Speaker 1: Club and um, you know, in that environment, I was
42:38
Speaker 1: like the black mecca of tennis in Chicago. You're the
42:40
Speaker 1: only black's club in Chicago. It was black professionals, doctors, lawyers.
42:46
Speaker 1: Um it was you know, when I have to ask
42:47
Speaker 1: came to town, he always stopped by there. That's where
42:50
Speaker 1: I met first Magazini Garrison, like it was the place
42:53
Speaker 1: uh Katrina Adams learned to play there Donald young. So
42:56
Speaker 1: it was like a black mecca and I went there
43:00
Speaker 1: every day after school just for the free tennis program
43:02
Speaker 1: and the convenient babysitting for my mother. Um. But that
43:06
Speaker 1: environment where you see black people, uh just sort of
43:10
Speaker 1: they're congregating around the game tennis, basketball in the gym,
43:14
Speaker 1: drinking smoothies and wine. You know. You know that helped
43:18
Speaker 1: me as a student. That kept me off the street,
43:20
Speaker 1: right And you know, I can't tell you the number
43:23
Speaker 1: of times that I would be leaving out the club,
43:25
Speaker 1: walking to the bus stop to try to get a
43:27
Speaker 1: right to take the bus home and a and a
43:30
Speaker 1: and an adult would give me a ride in it's Cadillac,
43:32
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so that environment where
43:35
Speaker 1: it was, um wasn't forrest mentorship, but it was just
43:40
Speaker 1: a the kids isn't here belong to us. We're gonna
43:42
Speaker 1: make sure we practice with them, spar with them, helping
43:46
Speaker 1: with their homework. I used to sit down on my
43:48
Speaker 1: knees and do my homework on the bench, right, and
43:51
Speaker 1: will come over, Hey, what you're doing. Let me help
43:53
Speaker 1: you with that math problem whatever it is, right, And
43:55
Speaker 1: it was totally authentic and not forced. And so, uh,
43:59
Speaker 1: my old was to create that same environment. So we
44:03
Speaker 1: built the facility literally a mile west of that facility. Um,
44:07
Speaker 1: we got classrooms so the kids don't have to sit
44:10
Speaker 1: on their knees and do homework on the floor. Um,
44:14
Speaker 1: we've got adults in the building who have worked with
44:15
Speaker 1: all who have the opportunity to, you know, you know,
44:19
Speaker 1: very just unintendedly, you know, meet with kids and get
44:22
Speaker 1: to know these kids so that when they do grow
44:24
Speaker 1: older and get the intern you need internship, they have
44:27
Speaker 1: some sort of barometer there. So that was the goal,
44:30
Speaker 1: was just to recreate the environment that I think kept
44:32
Speaker 1: me alive. I mean, I grew up on the South
44:35
Speaker 1: side of Chicago, uh, and I had a lot of
44:38
Speaker 1: opportunity to do bad things. And I was a middle
44:42
Speaker 1: child in the middle class family, in the middle class neighborhood, right,
44:45
Speaker 1: And so I had the opportunity to do a lot
44:48
Speaker 1: of bad things. I could hide in my family because
44:51
Speaker 1: my brother was, you know, doing his thing on the
44:53
Speaker 1: basketball court. And you know, my parents were busy. Both
44:58
Speaker 1: my parents work, you know what I mean, And so
45:01
Speaker 1: has kept me on the straight and narrow here point blank.
45:03
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45:07
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47:09
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47:12
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47:16
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47:19
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47:27
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47:33
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47:36
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47:42
Speaker 1: listeners to say wow, you can do this too. But
47:45
Speaker 1: you have to have a plan and your plan is
47:48
Speaker 1: changing lives. So when you wake up every day, how
47:50
Speaker 1: do you feel? Oh man, let me tell you. It's
47:55
Speaker 1: hard work. So I'm glad that the buildings built, and
48:00
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're operating. We've been operating four years.
48:02
Speaker 1: We we started going in two thousand and five. Right then,
48:05
Speaker 1: we've got our older facility. We got control of that
48:08
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. Uh, And we moved in
48:10
Speaker 1: this build in seventeen. But it was not easy. Uh
48:14
Speaker 1: And so when I woke up in the morning, I'm exhausted.
48:17
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that we were able to get to
48:19
Speaker 1: the finish line, but exhausted because the work never stops. Um.
48:23
Speaker 1: But you know, around three or four o'clock when these
48:25
Speaker 1: kids started walking in, these parents started dropping their kids off,
48:28
Speaker 1: and they are first generation tennis players with no knowledge
48:31
Speaker 1: and just a blank canvas. I mean, that makes it
48:33
Speaker 1: all worth it. Um. But you know, I'll be I'll
48:36
Speaker 1: be honest. You know, it was a lot of times
48:38
Speaker 1: in the process where I was like, I got a job,
48:40
Speaker 1: I got two degrees, I could do something else. Is
48:43
Speaker 1: it worth a fight? You know, it shouldn't be this
48:45
Speaker 1: hard to do good? And so uh, it has not
48:48
Speaker 1: been like, um, a smooth role. But you know, I
48:52
Speaker 1: feel like my South Side roots make make me tough
48:55
Speaker 1: enough to power through it so that that I'll be
48:57
Speaker 1: honest with you, it's it's uh, it's been a our role.
49:00
Speaker 1: But it's good. It's very rewarding, uh to see this,
49:03
Speaker 1: you know, everything coming fruition for us to have professional
49:05
Speaker 1: tennis terments and stuff here. But you know, the role
49:08
Speaker 1: was hard. I mean, I'll tell you, you know, just
49:10
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see HBCUs getting the notoriety that they're
49:14
Speaker 1: getting now because I would say, if I'm being honest,
49:19
Speaker 1: a lot of when I was trying to raise money
49:22
Speaker 1: right amongst corporations and amongst the wealthy crowd whom I
49:25
Speaker 1: went to Ivy League schools and some of these you know,
49:27
Speaker 1: larger institutions, I felt like, on a consistent basis that
49:32
Speaker 1: my HBCU degree was a hindrance what I was trying
49:36
Speaker 1: to do. It was like, you didn't go to Kellogg
49:40
Speaker 1: or Booth, so your family NBA is not really an NBAT.
49:44
Speaker 1: You know. I had that feeling, right, and it wasn't
49:46
Speaker 1: just my insecurity. It was a real feeling, you know
49:49
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think now, you know, supporting HBC
49:52
Speaker 1: is believing their potential is a is a fad. But
49:56
Speaker 1: you know, four years ago, it wasn't a fat Eight
49:58
Speaker 1: years ago, it was I was sitting in the room
50:00
Speaker 1: with four or five people that went to Harvard, Yale,
50:02
Speaker 1: doctumun Boom, you know, and so you know it was
50:06
Speaker 1: it was it made my life harder, right, Um, there's
50:12
Speaker 1: in terms of proven I had the capacity and the
50:14
Speaker 1: intellect to sort of make this happen. We know, come out,
50:16
Speaker 1: I think from a standpoint, and you're absolutely correct. And
50:18
Speaker 1: I always tell people that they were a vice president.
50:21
Speaker 1: Kamala Harriston. Tell anybody that she went to Howard, they
50:23
Speaker 1: would assume she went to Ivy League school because people
50:26
Speaker 1: just don't assume that type of academic training can lead
50:29
Speaker 1: to somebody being the vice president of the United States.
50:32
Speaker 1: But you also were playing in the lane where you
50:34
Speaker 1: know there was a rarity. You know, from the standpoint
50:37
Speaker 1: of tennis, you know, you can't you don't associate tennis
50:40
Speaker 1: with a with a historically black college and university. You
50:44
Speaker 1: just don't do that. And so but you do you do.
50:48
Speaker 1: From an academic standpoint, we realized that the percent of
50:50
Speaker 1: the black doctors and Dennis or who are black con
50:53
Speaker 1: from hsbc US. For the percent of the members of
50:55
Speaker 1: Congress who are black come from hbcuent of the STEM
50:59
Speaker 1: graduates who are black con from hbc USED. You know,
51:01
Speaker 1: North Carolina Adan t graduating more black engineers either white
51:06
Speaker 1: or black colleges. You know, that type of information is
51:09
Speaker 1: what I'm about. That's that's why I got you on
51:11
Speaker 1: the show because important people see there are so many
51:13
Speaker 1: different styles because of the fact that you know, it
51:16
Speaker 1: is limited amount of information. When I see that Mackenzie
51:20
Speaker 1: Scotty gives out four point one billion dollars, but they
51:22
Speaker 1: don't tell you why she gave out the four point
51:25
Speaker 1: one million dollars. And so when I bring you on
51:27
Speaker 1: the show to talk about you, I moved the conversation
51:29
Speaker 1: of family to the forefront because here's a man making
51:32
Speaker 1: a difference who should be recognized for his academic training
51:35
Speaker 1: but also for his black excellence. And that's really one
51:38
Speaker 1: of the reasons I brought you on the show because
51:40
Speaker 1: now because I wanted to talk about this tennis tournament
51:42
Speaker 1: that you're kicking off, because it's the first ever and
51:45
Speaker 1: you're producing it. Yeah, well, let me say that you
51:49
Speaker 1: think about black college tennis. I went to Family you
51:53
Speaker 1: and I'm the third black person to coach a Grand
51:55
Speaker 1: Slam champ slung students right. Walter Johnson was a he
52:00
Speaker 1: coached out then Arthur Richard Williams was the second. He
52:03
Speaker 1: coached Venus and Serena. And I'm the third and I
52:07
Speaker 1: coached Long Stevens. Okay, so that's family number one right there. Uh.
52:12
Speaker 1: Zack Evidence was the only black coach on the men's
52:16
Speaker 1: pro tour. He was coaching Frances t Fo. He also
52:20
Speaker 1: went to Family You. Okay, Wow, okay, cool, I'll be
52:23
Speaker 1: a gibson the family. And so the Blacks that are
52:28
Speaker 1: intentness also have a great history and in a relationship
52:32
Speaker 1: with family, you know, with with HBCUs, you know what
52:35
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think that's also you know, little
52:37
Speaker 1: known fact. But I think it's important to know that.
52:40
Speaker 1: You know, two years ago the only two black coaches
52:42
Speaker 1: and all the protendants both went to HBCU uh and
52:46
Speaker 1: so you know, even my teammate, my teammates know why
52:49
Speaker 1: they will coach Melanie who Dan who you know if
52:52
Speaker 1: you google her story years ago, she made this incredible
52:55
Speaker 1: run in the U S Open so I think that, um,
52:58
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've got a sort of uh promoted
53:01
Speaker 1: it and talk about the more with Fami. You it
53:04
Speaker 1: us at the Atlanta right when Melanie out of Atlanta. Absolutely,
53:08
Speaker 1: I definitely know as we see you graduate intennis players
53:11
Speaker 1: have had a big imprint on professional tenants for a
53:14
Speaker 1: long time. Uh, you know, it's just so happened that
53:17
Speaker 1: we're very modest personalities. You know, it's very modest. Lead
53:21
Speaker 1: that to me, leave that shout out to me. That's
53:23
Speaker 1: my job. My job is to get you to talk
53:25
Speaker 1: about it, give you a platform to be able to
53:27
Speaker 1: shout it out, and then we should accept the responsibility
53:30
Speaker 1: that this is legitimate and we should support it because people,
53:33
Speaker 1: you know, you could say it was tough, but you know, man,
53:35
Speaker 1: you know six sixt point nine million dollars black owned
53:38
Speaker 1: and operate a tennis facility. You're a really good talker
53:42
Speaker 1: of people believe in what you have to say and
53:44
Speaker 1: what you've accomplished. So I always say that sometimes we
53:47
Speaker 1: work so hard come out that we kind of forget
53:50
Speaker 1: that people believe in as if we don't sit back
53:52
Speaker 1: and look at all our success, and sometimes the grind
53:55
Speaker 1: can overwhelm you and my sinners over women. You brother, look,
53:59
Speaker 1: you've coached Grand Slam tennis champion and we all saw
54:03
Speaker 1: this weekend how tough that is. You know, Emma who
54:06
Speaker 1: warned this weekend at eighteen years old the previous Grand
54:08
Speaker 1: Slams he had to walk away because the pressure was
54:10
Speaker 1: too great at the Wimbleton and so you see how
54:13
Speaker 1: it affected Novak Djokovic, you know, and afterwards he said
54:17
Speaker 1: he was relieved. You know, every every game he played,
54:20
Speaker 1: Rob Labor was in the stands. You know what I'm saying, like,
54:24
Speaker 1: what's up, You're gonna take it. You're not gonna take you.
54:26
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, the skinny Russian come along and
54:28
Speaker 1: he can't. Even everyone who served was during their ages
54:32
Speaker 1: and so but but that's that pressure, you know, you
54:35
Speaker 1: putting on a tennis tournament, that's another level of pressure
54:38
Speaker 1: and expectations to talk about that. Yeah, so um, I mean,
54:43
Speaker 1: you know, with covid Um, there was an opportunity to
54:45
Speaker 1: add some tournaments of the calendar with the with the
54:50
Speaker 1: pros not going to Asia this year because of the pandemic.
54:53
Speaker 1: Uh and so you know it's a good you know,
54:55
Speaker 1: I made sure that you know, just as I did
54:57
Speaker 1: in my corporate career prior to twenty seventeen or prior
55:01
Speaker 1: to when I left Corporate America. You know, I make
55:04
Speaker 1: sure that when I'm at these advents and at these
55:06
Speaker 1: tournaments that network continue to meet people, be a good person, um,
55:11
Speaker 1: you know, really exemplify what it means to be a
55:13
Speaker 1: black man who HBCU grad, who's educated, come from the family, uh,
55:17
Speaker 1: and not just be seen as just a tennis coach.
55:19
Speaker 1: And so over that time, I've had to you know,
55:21
Speaker 1: build some relationships, um, you know in the C suite,
55:25
Speaker 1: you know, with the Tennessee suite. Uh. And then you know,
55:28
Speaker 1: I've been working to just sort of bring things like
55:31
Speaker 1: that to Chicago because with excess tennants just a cradle
55:34
Speaker 1: to grave approach. You know, the cradle is obviously teaching
55:36
Speaker 1: the kids, and then the grave is being able to
55:39
Speaker 1: support professional tennis and and and like bring it to
55:42
Speaker 1: the inner city, you know, like you know, the kids
55:45
Speaker 1: in this neighborhood don't have the opportunity to go to
55:46
Speaker 1: New York and watch us open. So my goals to
55:48
Speaker 1: bring us open to them. And so that was always
55:51
Speaker 1: a part of the strategy, uh, in the vision and
55:54
Speaker 1: this year we happened to you know, be able to
55:56
Speaker 1: maneuver and negotiate to be able to pull it off.
55:58
Speaker 1: So it was great, I mean, and and it it
56:00
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, listen, what what black promotion, the
56:03
Speaker 1: black ownership and a tennis event means is that you
56:06
Speaker 1: can have black suppliers. When I go to the teenish tournaments,
56:10
Speaker 1: there are no black suppliers. Getting a security firm that
56:14
Speaker 1: got the contract? Is why the catering company got the contract?
56:16
Speaker 1: Is white? Transportation company got the contract? Is white? Um?
56:20
Speaker 1: You know when I go to US Open, I walk
56:21
Speaker 1: fifteen feet and my credential gets checked every five feet.
56:24
Speaker 1: You know this is this is the year after song one.
56:27
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guys, my baby faces on that billboard,
56:29
Speaker 1: right I am, I'm that guy, So let me buy right.
56:34
Speaker 1: And so I think that just comes from not having
56:36
Speaker 1: enough enough black, enough black bodies on the site. And so,
56:40
Speaker 1: you know, being able to own this event really gives
56:43
Speaker 1: me the opportunity to a give out wild cars to
56:45
Speaker 1: up and coming black players and be uh support black vendors.
56:50
Speaker 1: You know. So we have black hander, black security company,
56:53
Speaker 1: black graphic design, black printer, black pr black marketing. Uh,
56:57
Speaker 1: most of the ball kids were African Americans. Uh and so, um,
57:01
Speaker 1: you know, it just really really gives an opportunity to
57:04
Speaker 1: sort of continue what what the world is trying to
57:07
Speaker 1: do now right, which is poor black people, and expose
57:10
Speaker 1: the world to black people, because you know, I would
57:12
Speaker 1: say about tennis, it's the ultimate melting pot. I mean,
57:16
Speaker 1: it is the globalist of games. And um, you know,
57:22
Speaker 1: we've got to start to welcome everybody into the game,
57:24
Speaker 1: right the Serbians a check, Russians, the South Americans and Canadians,
57:30
Speaker 1: I mean, all of us. We gotta grow from tunis
57:32
Speaker 1: you that's coming to town? So you know, like the
57:35
Speaker 1: world needs early exposure to each other, and this event
57:38
Speaker 1: allows that to happen. Well you see that. You just
57:42
Speaker 1: see all the mixed race winners and champions that are
57:45
Speaker 1: in tennis nowadays, from Canada, from Japan. And but again
57:49
Speaker 1: with that whole thing, you know, I talked to a
57:51
Speaker 1: very humble man, come all merged, a humble guy. You know.
57:54
Speaker 1: Excess Tennis Village is on thirteen acres, y'all. Okay, I
57:57
Speaker 1: live on five acres. I know what thirteen nakeres looks like? Okay,
58:00
Speaker 1: fifteen outdoor courts, twelve indoor courts. Okay, the fitness in
58:04
Speaker 1: the classroom is located primarily and low income area of Chicago.
58:08
Speaker 1: So when I talked to him, I look at him,
58:09
Speaker 1: I look at the square and ago, brother, you're special.
58:12
Speaker 1: You're doing something I know some people will consider impossible.
58:16
Speaker 1: God gave you a talent, put you in the right direction,
58:19
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, your your your relatives, they pick
58:21
Speaker 1: up that racketball. Your mom says you're gonna keep you
58:23
Speaker 1: busy with babysitting duties. And then well you say you
58:26
Speaker 1: didn't love it or not, there is a love for it.
58:29
Speaker 1: And then you're making a difference because Sloan Stevens won't
58:32
Speaker 1: be Sloan Stevens without you. She's not a Grand Slam
58:36
Speaker 1: champion without you. And in the fact that you are
58:38
Speaker 1: affecting three thousand students annually at your facility in Chicago
58:43
Speaker 1: makes a difference. The fact that you're sending young students
58:46
Speaker 1: to colleges on scholarship opportunity is impressive. And when you
58:51
Speaker 1: say all those things, and I'm not just trying to
58:53
Speaker 1: make you down in the dumpers, hey man, you need
58:56
Speaker 1: to dump your chest. I'm just telling brother, you're special
58:58
Speaker 1: and that's my job is to acknowledge that and to
59:01
Speaker 1: get you to understand that you're a value member of
59:04
Speaker 1: this world. Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. I appreciate
59:08
Speaker 1: you having me on. I mean, you know, look, I've
59:11
Speaker 1: got tons of people in my life that provide me
59:13
Speaker 1: encouragement and when I started slowing down and kick me right,
59:16
Speaker 1: but you know, Garrison is one of those people. Really
59:21
Speaker 1: jeans one of those people, uh brother named Les Corney,
59:24
Speaker 1: you know, because it gets hard. So I appreciate with
59:26
Speaker 1: what you just said. I appreciate the encouragement. Um and uh, hey,
59:31
Speaker 1: kudos to YouTube man, thank you for having me on
59:34
Speaker 1: and and supporting what I'm trying to do. Yeah, I'm
59:36
Speaker 1: gonna come to talk to my boys Stephen A. Smith.
59:38
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're we're get we I'm gonna connect you
59:40
Speaker 1: with him man after this interview. I gotta do some
59:42
Speaker 1: extra for you to man because you specially yeah uh
59:48
Speaker 1: and seven, they would appreciate that, you know. I think
59:50
Speaker 1: you know. One of the things about this facility, it
59:52
Speaker 1: was it was created with a lot of help from
59:54
Speaker 1: NBA players. So my best friend in high school and
59:57
Speaker 1: still to this day, is a guy Nam Quentin Richardson, Uh, yeah,
1:00:05
Speaker 1: from Chicago, and then Dwyane Wade and Bobby Simmons and uh,
1:00:09
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people sort of uh you
1:00:12
Speaker 1: know it helps facility come here. Whether it's like, hey,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: give me some game tickets so I can entertain this person. Well,
1:00:17
Speaker 1: hey I need a chat. You got it, you got
1:00:20
Speaker 1: the Mercedes. I need a chat. Um. You know, there's
1:00:23
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball influence uh in this in this
1:00:27
Speaker 1: facility as well, because in Chicago, in addition to the
1:00:31
Speaker 1: business community, there's a lot of athletes, you know that
1:00:33
Speaker 1: way we make it, make it from the stuff from
1:00:35
Speaker 1: west Side. Now, who those athletes NBA athletes that you
1:00:38
Speaker 1: just mentioned that kind of didn't hear, Quentin richards and
1:00:41
Speaker 1: dwyang Way, Bobby Um, you know, they all kind of
1:00:45
Speaker 1: stepped the road checks to support the calls. Still involved,
1:00:48
Speaker 1: still support of uh working on phase two and three
1:00:51
Speaker 1: with those guys. So. Um. You know a Kyan Dueling's
1:00:55
Speaker 1: daughter trains here. You know, he's the coach of the
1:00:58
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz live with me this summer. Um, he was
1:01:02
Speaker 1: cus teammate back in the day. So you know, a
1:01:05
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of help from a lot of
1:01:06
Speaker 1: different sources with my man, you keep winning and again
1:01:09
Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote this and keep you in the fore
1:01:11
Speaker 1: front of black excellence, my brother, and again you're making
1:01:15
Speaker 1: a difference and I can't if you ever need to
1:01:19
Speaker 1: kick in the butt, just just as Bobby. I know Bobby.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: We said, Bobby, he's he's in l A. When I
1:01:25
Speaker 1: was in l A. We still on the same floor,
1:01:27
Speaker 1: same condo. So you're doing very well, man, and uh,
1:01:30
Speaker 1: you know his brother, and I know exactly that Chicago
1:01:33
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1:01:35
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1:01:38
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