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Cheryl McKissack Daniel Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest. The thing I really was excited about this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I researched all my guests is the legacy,
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  Speaker 1: the history and of what she's done and what she's
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  Speaker 1: doing and what her family has done. And let me
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  Speaker 1: read the intro of my next guest. My next guest.
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  Speaker 1: Grandfather uh founded the family business in eighteen o five,
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  Speaker 1: her father took over in eighteen sixty eight, and her
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  Speaker 1: mother through the business Today. My next guest represents the
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  Speaker 1: fifth generation of the family century old business. Kissak and mckissak,
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  Speaker 1: the oldest minority and woman owned design and construction firm
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  Speaker 1: in the country. Her firm has involved with some of
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  Speaker 1: the New York's largest projects. JFK Terminal One, Lagoria, Central
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  Speaker 1: Terminal Building, Redevelopment, Lugordia. They can say say l g A.
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  Speaker 1: That's that little term. If you fly a lot, you
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  Speaker 1: know it's l g A. When you fly Central Terminal Building,
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  Speaker 1: redevelopment on the Island, Hospital redevelopment, HALLM Hospital, similar modernization.
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  Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and it's not just
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  Speaker 1: in the New York area, but just throughout the entire country.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to moneymaking Conversations. I'm deeply honored. They had
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  Speaker 1: the president and CEO of Mchansic Mkissic, Mkissak and Mkissak.
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  Speaker 1: Sheryl mckissak, Daniel, Good morning, how were you? Good afternoon?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we're profoundly speaking. I'm speaking with success and how
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? I am doing terrific. Well, you know, oh,
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  Speaker 1: San Diego. Okay, it's early for you. Okay, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's business taking you out there. You're on vacation
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  Speaker 1: out there in San Diego. Because I always like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about having that balanced life. That was something I
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  Speaker 1: failed miserably on in my life, Sheryl, because I was
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  Speaker 1: just out there with Steve Harvey was just grinding and
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  Speaker 1: I never knew how to get off the wheel. And
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  Speaker 1: since I've gotten away from managing him and I manage
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  Speaker 1: other talents now as well that I got other hands
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  Speaker 1: and a a lot of our National Guard contracts and all
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  Speaker 1: these type of things, I've learned how to balance more.
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  Speaker 1: I learned how to slow down and enjoy my success.
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  Speaker 1: You have a legacy of success. How do you balance that? Uh? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I do take time for myself. Um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm out here on business on my way out here,
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  Speaker 1: I stopped in Little Rock, Arkansas for girls trip that
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  Speaker 1: you go, that can go. I love it. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: teach your shan on my main conversation to day. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because because that's important that you say that, and you
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  Speaker 1: and the reason I like about it because you smile
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  Speaker 1: about it. That's the happiness that you're able to share
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  Speaker 1: your success. And sometimes if you don't share it, then
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  Speaker 1: people will detach from you and and and gain a
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  Speaker 1: perception of who you really are. Not and you just
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  Speaker 1: used to scessful but still deep down God is giving
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  Speaker 1: you a gift. But you're just a regular person and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people will put you on a mountain
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  Speaker 1: because they don't know and so what But would you
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  Speaker 1: carry that legacy though? And I have to go back
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  Speaker 1: to eighteen o five? What does that mean to you personally? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty incredible to be fifth generation. Most
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  Speaker 1: family business can't make it to the second generation. I
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  Speaker 1: think the statistics are um in the thirty or twenty
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  Speaker 1: or thirty percent um and third generation is more like
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  Speaker 1: four percent. And for us to be fifth generation, it
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  Speaker 1: is incredible. Um. You know, it gives you a sense
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  Speaker 1: of pride um the for me, it gives me the
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  Speaker 1: ability to push through any situation that I have, knowing
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  Speaker 1: that my forefathers overcame slavery, Jim Crow, the segregation in
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  Speaker 1: the South, bigotry, all of these things to build a business. UM,
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  Speaker 1: And if they could do that, there's nothing I can do.
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  Speaker 1: So UM. You know, the company actually goes back to
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  Speaker 1: the seventeen nineties when the first descendant of my family
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  Speaker 1: came here as a slave. UM was taught the trade
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  Speaker 1: of making bricks by his slave master, William McKissick. Um.
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  Speaker 1: We believe at some point he uh got his freedom
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  Speaker 1: because he gave three hundred and sixty five thousand bricks
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  Speaker 1: to the Cheers family in Nashville, Tennessee, a very prominent family. UM,
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  Speaker 1: and they built a mansion and that mansion is still standing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: His son was a master carpenter, Calvin mckizic. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: most of the second I've enjoyed this conversation, it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can't go past Street Port, Louisiana. Okay, I can't
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  Speaker 1: go past my grandmother. You all way back talking about
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  Speaker 1: when he came over and got out with some bricks.
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  Speaker 1: This is incredible information. So what documentary are we working
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  Speaker 1: on on this radio show right now? What documented? Because
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  Speaker 1: you know this is a story you're talking to the
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  Speaker 1: personal story. This is a story, and we are working
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  Speaker 1: on something and as soom as we get it ready,
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  Speaker 1: we will let you know. There you go. You got
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  Speaker 1: to but to continue to the story, I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that that part
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  Speaker 1: of this interview, what's your legacy, what's your history? The
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  Speaker 1: historical past? That because I know, you know we're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with racism today. When you know to sit up and
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  Speaker 1: say I'm smart, that I can do something, that I
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  Speaker 1: can build something. Unfortunately, you know, the the the being
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  Speaker 1: able to over get per myths, being denied, being denied
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  Speaker 1: the right unions coming in, tearing down I know exactly
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  Speaker 1: or some of the experiences, because that's what that period delivered,
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  Speaker 1: if delivered rejection physically publicly for people of color, Lindens
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  Speaker 1: and all the things burning down your success stories and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So when when you talk about your
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  Speaker 1: journey and where you're at today, your female minority on
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  Speaker 1: what what what? What? What story stands out about your
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  Speaker 1: your your history in this fifth generation accomplishment of this company. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the The story for me is my grandfather Moses mckizic
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  Speaker 1: the third and Calvin McKissick. They incorporated US in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: o five and architectural licensing boards did not go into
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  Speaker 1: affect in the state of Tennessee until so they would
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  Speaker 1: have lost their business if they did not get architectural license.
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  Speaker 1: They ended up going to Correspondent School at M I.
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  Speaker 1: T To receive architectural degrees and then they go to
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  Speaker 1: apply to take their license and they're told no, you
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  Speaker 1: can't take your license the tests for the license because
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  Speaker 1: you're black. Um. And so they were able to lobby
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  Speaker 1: the board and they found one board member who said,
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  Speaker 1: we cannot prevent these men from taking this test um
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  Speaker 1: just because they're black. And then he said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of flipping, well, they're not going to pass it anyway,
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  Speaker 1: just hidding figures again right here, this h uh. And
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  Speaker 1: so they take the exam. Of course they passed, and
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  Speaker 1: then they don't want to give them the license, but
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  Speaker 1: they have to. UM. So they received a licensed one
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  Speaker 1: seventeen and one eighteen in the state of Tennessee, and
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  Speaker 1: the same board that did not want them to have
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  Speaker 1: the license when they did receive their license, and the
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  Speaker 1: state of Tennessee receives so much notoriety that board went
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  Speaker 1: to bat for them to get licensed in twenty two
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  Speaker 1: other states. Wow, the blessings just kept growing. The blessings
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  Speaker 1: just kept on growing. Correct, Yes, Now, so that that
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  Speaker 1: the story is uh one of being able to um
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  Speaker 1: persevere against all odds. Basically, Now, when you look at
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  Speaker 1: your company, you know I at the beginning in the
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  Speaker 1: in the intro, I listed some of the projects that
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  Speaker 1: you involved in the New York area. But you you
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  Speaker 1: are a nationwide from correct. Yes, Um we our our
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  Speaker 1: triumphant group. Um we are practicing nationwide. Um we're we're
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  Speaker 1: looking at projects in um California, their Barda, um Miami,
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  Speaker 1: um so Seattle. Um so, Yes we are nationwide. Okay. Cool.
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  Speaker 1: Now when I when I land in uh Lagori or tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I fly up there probably twice a month
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  Speaker 1: to New York. Um. Okay, I see all this construction
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  Speaker 1: going on. When you say the word redevelopment, are you
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  Speaker 1: are you Are you a part of the overall construction?
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  Speaker 1: Are you carry the entitled task of the reconstruction or redevelopment. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we are part of the construction team with Skanska Corporation UM,
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  Speaker 1: and that was pretty significant for us because that was
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  Speaker 1: the first airport UM that the Government of New York
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  Speaker 1: was redeveloping UM. But the biggest airport is jfk O.
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  Speaker 1: I love that airport. That's one of my favor It's
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  Speaker 1: like walking into your mall. I love that airport. You're
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  Speaker 1: walking that mall. You can get everything you want, suits, fine,
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  Speaker 1: shoot good food, walk out there looking good. You're walking
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  Speaker 1: out of looking You're walking several TURSUK has several terms. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite airports. It's one of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite airports. Absolutely, have to look because I love the shop.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So there's a couple of more's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of areas where I can look like going there and
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  Speaker 1: shopping look good. I'm a fashion person. I saw a
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  Speaker 1: couple of photos you you know you got the fashion
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  Speaker 1: tip going to now, don't fool yourself. I know elegance
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  Speaker 1: when I see it. We go, We're gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: break right here. I will come back. I don't wanna
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about your your your goals
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  Speaker 1: of the future, how you're mentoring young people out there
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  Speaker 1: to be successful it and how old that your legacy
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  Speaker 1: is more than just overcoming that ours about changing the future.
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  Speaker 1: She's talented. She's on my show. She is the owner
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  Speaker 1: at president UH the Kissak and the Kissak Sheryl the Kissak. Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: This was Sean McDonald. You're back. I'm back listening to
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  Speaker 1: money making conversations and UH have the very talented president
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  Speaker 1: uh CEO of Mkissak the Kissak. It's a design and
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  Speaker 1: construction firm. What exactly when I when I say the
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  Speaker 1: work designed and construction firm, sryl, what exactly is does
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  Speaker 1: that mean? Well? Um, we are actually program and construction
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  Speaker 1: managers in general contractors. Um, so we managed the construction process. Um,
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  Speaker 1: if they're multiple projects, then they call that a program manager.
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  Speaker 1: And then we actually build. We hold contracts with subcontractors
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  Speaker 1: like concrete, you know, mechanical, electrical, plumbing, dry wall. We
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  Speaker 1: hold all those contracts and guide all those contractors through
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  Speaker 1: the process. You know, when I when I was just
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  Speaker 1: going through your bio, I'm a person about building brands,
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  Speaker 1: recognizing brands, and acknowledging that that in today's society of
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  Speaker 1: social media, digital recognition, that it seems that you're starting
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  Speaker 1: to allow your brand of who you are to be acknowledged,
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  Speaker 1: Am I right? Because? And and why is that? Because it?
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  Speaker 1: Believe me, that's a beautiful thing. Because we need to
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  Speaker 1: have individuals like you to come out of the I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say the dog, but just come out and represent
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  Speaker 1: and let us know that there is a possibility. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I would saying your legacy leads us to
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  Speaker 1: believe that impossible is possible and to here you articulated
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  Speaker 1: so cleanly allows us to know that it's possible today. Yes, um,
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  Speaker 1: I am expanding my brand um because it is it's
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  Speaker 1: important to put a face on our industry. Um. That's
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  Speaker 1: different than what people would normally think. When people think
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  Speaker 1: about engineers, are they think of constructing people? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they think of people like me. So it's so, UM,
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  Speaker 1: we need to attract more women and minorities into you
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  Speaker 1: know this, into STEM so that they will become engineers
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  Speaker 1: and architects and venture into the construction arena. Because construction
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  Speaker 1: can build well. Um it It definitely can provide a
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  Speaker 1: good income for a family. UM. We see that all
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  Speaker 1: the time, UM with women who find their way to
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  Speaker 1: actual construction sites and you know, maybe they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a spouse and they're raising you know, their children. They're
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  Speaker 1: able to do that with a good construction job. Now,
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  Speaker 1: so that is why I was expanding my brand. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I've done construction by degrees in mathematics. I remember actually
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  Speaker 1: construction ran me in to get my degree. I was
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  Speaker 1: a little truck. It was fifted. It was a thousand
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  Speaker 1: uh tired intitubes. They were fifty pounds each. After I
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  Speaker 1: loaded number nine hundred and ninety nine, I went back
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  Speaker 1: to school and got my math degree. I started out
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  Speaker 1: in civil engineering. Then I you know, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what I wanted to have from civil engineering and then
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  Speaker 1: the chimical engineering, and then I went to computer science
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  Speaker 1: and then I found my spirit and sociology it really
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  Speaker 1: focused me when I started who I was. Sociology and
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  Speaker 1: focused me because I didn't know. Because education is what
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  Speaker 1: people tell you who you are. They tell you who
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  Speaker 1: Sociology told me who I could be, and then how
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  Speaker 1: to communicate with people, and that's when I found. That's
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  Speaker 1: when I look back. I was to people, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to know what the to be successful, look back
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  Speaker 1: into your past. Don't look in the future, don't look
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  Speaker 1: at what you're doing now. Because because as you go
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  Speaker 1: through life, your path can be altered by marriages, can
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  Speaker 1: be altered by kids, can be financial failure or moving
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  Speaker 1: out of a an the original place where you was
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  Speaker 1: having success. So you have to go back to your
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  Speaker 1: early twenties. That's when you That's when you was like feisty,
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  Speaker 1: That's when you you're vipering. That's when you had all
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  Speaker 1: these brilliant ideas. And so that's when I was exposed
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  Speaker 1: to who I really was. It was math. I went
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  Speaker 1: through math. I didn't have a book with I want
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  Speaker 1: to and three, didn't even have a book, and didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know that I had that talent. But when I
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  Speaker 1: was able to rationalize, this is what I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be doing, I was successful at it. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing now with your brand, You're you are exposing
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  Speaker 1: us to the reality that I gotta keep telling this.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I'm not. I hope I'm not embarrassing you
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  Speaker 1: on this interview. But it was important that that you
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  Speaker 1: you you and your brand UH is tied to a
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  Speaker 1: legacy of intellect UH white college success. You employ people,
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  Speaker 1: are you educate people, and and for you to come
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  Speaker 1: out and being essence magazine, be recognized by my good
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  Speaker 1: friend Susan Taylor, former editor at Essence magazine, and and
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  Speaker 1: being on board with mcgirl. To Roger p Henson, this
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  Speaker 1: is important because we we know what an athlete can do,
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  Speaker 1: we know what what a singer can do, we know
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  Speaker 1: what an actor and actress can do. But do we
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  Speaker 1: really know that you can be rich and famous by
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  Speaker 1: using your brain? That's so true, that's so true. So
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  Speaker 1: so when people ask you to speak, what is your
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  Speaker 1: general message to them? Sure, um, is really defining yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And really I just heard what you said, and I
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  Speaker 1: never thought about it that way, but it makes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense. And I think I'm gonna think on
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  Speaker 1: that to day. And that is going back to your
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  Speaker 1: twenties and really thinking about what what uh, what what
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  Speaker 1: your passion was at that time in your life. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Because I think you're right. I think you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: in inhibited, you feel like you can conquer the world. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And and so you do have all these great thoughts, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you and you are defining yourself. So that my
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  Speaker 1: message is basically thee and the importance of defining yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We did not overcome all these obstacles by other people
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  Speaker 1: telling us who we are and what we can't and
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  Speaker 1: can't do. We overcame these obstacles by being who we
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  Speaker 1: are and not let anybody else change that. UM. And
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  Speaker 1: so to me, UM that that message right there sets
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  Speaker 1: you free. Let her talk, y'all. I let the talk.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even want to interrupt. You think, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: let favorite people talk. Sometimes you don't cut off greatness.
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  Speaker 1: You don't cut off greatness. That don't cut off greatness.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It was it was a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: when when I was when I was going through it
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  Speaker 1: was a couple of things that stood out to me
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  Speaker 1: was the the mission statement and the vision statement. Now
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  Speaker 1: let me let me tell everybody what the vision statement.
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  Speaker 1: Mckissack will be a beacon in the construction industry and
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  Speaker 1: will be recognized as a world class professionals, professional service
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  Speaker 1: firm that deliverers uncompromising performance services and value for our clients.
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  Speaker 1: That means that, you know, I would. I always tell
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  Speaker 1: people that I would. I believe I've been successful in
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  Speaker 1: my life, Sheryl, because when somebody gives me their money,
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  Speaker 1: I treated like it's my money. Mm hmmm mmmmmm. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel that's what you're saying right there in that
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  Speaker 1: vision stated correct, right. UM, It's so important to bring
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  Speaker 1: value and that's really what we focus on, UM with
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  Speaker 1: our projects. You know, our projects go beyond the brick
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  Speaker 1: and mortar, but it's how we are affecting the people
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  Speaker 1: that we are serving and that it's not usually just
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  Speaker 1: one client. It's usually a community, um and and it's
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  Speaker 1: usually a minority community that's you know, predominantly minority. So
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  Speaker 1: if we're in those communities, how can this our project
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  Speaker 1: or any project that we do, provide value to that community?
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  Speaker 1: And for us as jobs, we need to get uh,
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  Speaker 1: brown and black people working on our jobs. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: so that is what we have focused in for the
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  Speaker 1: last on for the last ten or fifteen years, UM
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  Speaker 1: is how to get people qualified to work on construction site.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing, Uh, it is, it is, And it's just
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  Speaker 1: a it's a great feeling too, you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a great ceiling to you know, be able to pay
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  Speaker 1: your rent, to you to buy food, you'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to take control of your life. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: trivialize that because you know, they're they're they're they're they're
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  Speaker 1: quick to want to be helped when you can help yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm still on my two feet, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: long time, and I've follow these same two feet. And
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  Speaker 1: the thing that I I've learned the most when I
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  Speaker 1: when I interview somebody of your your level, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm talking to the president and CEO of mkissak
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  Speaker 1: and mckissac as Eryl mckissack Daniels. Her firm has been
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  Speaker 1: involved with some of New York's largest projects, including the
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  Speaker 1: Fault and Is Market, the Mark one to three, the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Park, uh JFK, LaGuardia, Corney Island hallm Hospital. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just rattling off success. Are you humbled by that? I
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  Speaker 1: got there because I say that because because I'm listening
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  Speaker 1: to you. You know, you on your way to San Diego,
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  Speaker 1: you stop that hung out with your girls a little rock.
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  Speaker 1: You know that wasn't patents. You know that was Chicago,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that was Little Rock. And now you're saying there, go
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: doing your thing on the business trip. And when I went,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that means you you have a balance. And I can
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: hear in your voice, Uh, your your type of person
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that I could easily just eat dinnerware to watch talk
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: about what's on Netflix and UH and things like that,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and it all makes sense. So I got minute left.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: What would you say to people who? What advice we
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: get the people who who? Who? Who needs to get
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: who need to get focused on? How they can get
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: focused and what what what the future can hold for
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: them if they get focused. Um, they have to find
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: their passion. I think everyone has to find their passion. UM.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And when you find your passion, you can't make money
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: off of that, UM, but you have to qualify yourself,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: get educated around that passion. Find someone else who is
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: doing what you want to do, and get to know them,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: understand how they did it. UM. Because whatever soone, whatever
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: God has put inside of you, you can build on it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It is there for a reason. I love it. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: love it. She's my she's my queen. She's elegant, she's smart,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: she's a business owner. Largest female minority firm in the country,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: largest Cheryl, please come back on my show. Money Making
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Conference is built for people like you.