Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Biden "brokered" a deal between Russia and China as a Chinese business partner of HUNTER BIDEN is pictured raising a glass with Vladimir Putin in 2017!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: A red wave is looking like it could be a
- 0:03Speaker 1: big reality. Democrats are now starting to not just freak out,
- 0:07Speaker 1: but they're starting to burn each other at the stake.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Top Democrats are now questioning the party's strategy of going
- 0:16Speaker 1: all in on the issue of abortion and wondering why
- 0:19Speaker 1: now it's not working. Top Democrat officials, lawmakers, and strategists
- 0:25Speaker 1: now are quote openly second guessing, meaning they're yelling at
- 0:29Speaker 1: each other their parties campaign pitches and tactics, realizing that
- 0:34Speaker 1: the American people are not affected by the emotional play
- 0:38Speaker 1: on abortion when they're losing their jobs and when inflation
- 0:42Speaker 1: and the price of interest rates have skyrocketed. This on
- 0:46Speaker 1: top of fuel costs, where Democrats apparently didn't understand that
- 0:51Speaker 1: paying five dollars a gallon does not make people want
- 0:54Speaker 1: to come over to your green new religion. Now, all
- 0:58Speaker 1: of this is happening right now while something else has
- 1:01Speaker 1: just broken, and it is a picture. It's one hell
- 1:04Speaker 1: of a picture, and I hope every one of you
- 1:07Speaker 1: will share this because the media is not covering this picture.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Chinese business partner of the President of the United States
- 1:16Speaker 1: of America's son, Hunter Biden is pictured now raising a
- 1:20Speaker 1: glass with Vladimir Putin in two thousand seventeen, As texts reveal,
- 1:30Speaker 1: he was given the green light by President Ge to
- 1:33Speaker 1: submit an oil deal with the Bidens. That's right now.
- 1:38Speaker 1: You would think this would be big news right ahead
- 1:39Speaker 1: of the midterm elections, wouldn't you yew anybody covering it? No,
- 1:43Speaker 1: So it's your job now to actually make sure everybody
- 1:46Speaker 1: knows about this picture. This newly unearthed photo shows the
- 1:51Speaker 1: Biden family's Chinese business partner, meaning directly with Vladimir Putin.
- 1:57Speaker 1: The oil executive, the executive director of the Chinese oil
- 2:00Speaker 1: giant CEFE, which partnered with Joe Biden's brother Jim Biden
- 2:05Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden on this deal that earned the first
- 2:09Speaker 1: family tens of millions of dollars. Text Messages that have
- 2:14Speaker 1: now been obtained by the Dailymail dot Com reveal that Jang,
- 2:19Speaker 1: this executive, was in close contact with the Chinese President
- 2:24Speaker 1: Ge and that the Chinese leader gave him the green
- 2:27Speaker 1: light for the big partnership with the Bidens plural the
- 2:34Speaker 1: entire family. Jang even traveled to Moscow. Waji that is
- 2:40Speaker 1: the President of China or the dictator of China, the
- 2:43Speaker 1: Communist leader of China to meet directly with Vladimir Putin
- 2:47Speaker 1: to broker this massive nine point one billion dollar oil
- 2:52Speaker 1: deal to buy a share of the Russian state owned
- 2:56Speaker 1: oil firm Rosneff in two thousand and seventeen. Now, if
- 3:01Speaker 1: you want to knew who actually made money from this deal,
- 3:03Speaker 1: it was the Biden family. These newly unearthed photos Shojang
- 3:10Speaker 1: with Putin in Budapest, Hungry earlier that year, toasting one another.
- 3:16Speaker 1: They were pictured together at the World Judo Championships, a
- 3:21Speaker 1: favorite sport of Vladimir Putin, and drinking with the Hungarian
- 3:25Speaker 1: Prime Minister, Victor Orban obviously a very significant picture. Hunter
- 3:32Speaker 1: knew about his Chinese business partners, direct involvement with both
- 3:36Speaker 1: the Russian and Chinese leaders, arguably the US's greatest adversaries. Apparently,
- 3:43Speaker 1: this is just how business is done right in that
- 3:46Speaker 1: part of the world. The first Sons texted his American
- 3:51Speaker 1: partners was CEFE and their venture in May of twenty seventeen.
- 3:56Speaker 1: This is how these pictures come into the real understanding
- 4:00Speaker 1: of how business was done within the Biden crime family.
- 4:04Speaker 1: So the first Son text messages show that he was
- 4:07Speaker 1: working with the CFE partners and that Jang was coming,
- 4:11Speaker 1: to be quote my partner, to be partners with the Bidens,
- 4:16Speaker 1: and that Jang implied that the number one has made
- 4:20Speaker 1: it clear that that is available to him. In other words,
- 4:23Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist government's leader said, do the deal with
- 4:28Speaker 1: the Hunt, with the Bidens, do the deal with the Russians,
- 4:31Speaker 1: and we're all gonna get paid now. The party to
- 4:38Speaker 1: the conversation told The Daily Mail that the number one
- 4:41Speaker 1: was Hunter's code for the Chinese President Ge. We also
- 4:46Speaker 1: have information to back up that claim because of the
- 4:50Speaker 1: whistleblower former business partner of James and Hunter Biden, Tony
- 4:54Speaker 1: bob Olenski. He has shared the text messages between himself
- 4:58Speaker 1: and Hunter, as well his messages with Hunter's British partner
- 5:03Speaker 1: in his CEFE Chinese deal, James Glare, which further laid
- 5:09Speaker 1: bare to Jang's close relationship with the Chinese president. In fact,
- 5:15Speaker 1: Glare texted bob Olenski on July fourth, twenty seventeen, that
- 5:20Speaker 1: Jiang was in Moscow with President Ge. A source close
- 5:25Speaker 1: to CEFE and the deal told the Dailymail dot Com
- 5:29Speaker 1: that they were there arranging the momentous purchase of Rosnef's
- 5:34Speaker 1: steak finalized three months later. Now CEFE signed a deal
- 5:41Speaker 1: to buy fourteen point two percent of Rosnef from a
- 5:47Speaker 1: Qatari sovereign wealth fund an international oil firm, glenn Core
- 5:52Speaker 1: in September of two thou seventeen, for a total of
- 5:56Speaker 1: nine point one billion dollars. Some of the purchase was
- 6:01Speaker 1: set to be financed with a loan from the Russian
- 6:05Speaker 1: state owned bank VTB. The deal collapsed the following year
- 6:11Speaker 1: when the CEFE chairman Ee was arrested in China for
- 6:17Speaker 1: suspected economic crimes, according to local media. In reality, he
- 6:21Speaker 1: fell out a favor with ge and he disappeared. Also
- 6:25Speaker 1: contributing to the deal's collapse, they also say, was the
- 6:28Speaker 1: US arrest of a top CEFE executive, Patrick Hoe in
- 6:34Speaker 1: November of two and seventeen. Hoe was later convicted by
- 6:39Speaker 1: a New York court of bribing African leaders. Hunter, we
- 6:44Speaker 1: now know was anxious that he would be publicly linked
- 6:47Speaker 1: to the giant oil deal between these two American superpower
- 6:51Speaker 1: adversaries as well. In his own text messages in December
- 6:57Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Biden complained that to complain to his sister
- 7:03Speaker 1: in law and one time lover, Hallie Biden about dealing
- 7:07Speaker 1: with a stress of his missing Chinese business partner and
- 7:12Speaker 1: his suspected involvement in arranging the multibillion dollar deal with
- 7:17Speaker 1: Russia and China. In texts, he told Hallie that Ye
- 7:24Speaker 1: had been abducted and possibly assassinated, that the billionaire's right
- 7:29Speaker 1: hand man, Ho, who was Hunter's client, was the Chinese
- 7:35Speaker 1: chief of intelligence and had been convicted in the US.
- 7:38Speaker 1: And then Hunter had a giant tax bill hanging over him.
- 7:43Speaker 1: This house of cards was falling in just as his father, Joe,
- 7:46Speaker 1: was deciding to run for president. He told Hallie it
- 7:50Speaker 1: would make a national security nightmare for the intelligence services,
- 7:54Speaker 1: who would have to share a classified information with a
- 7:58Speaker 1: deeply compromised Hunter's father when he won the twenty twenty race. Quote,
- 8:03Speaker 1: I find myself because I've chosen to alienate all my
- 8:06Speaker 1: friends and family employees, and you and the kids and
- 8:09Speaker 1: my kids, etc. Hunter wrote, very alone in dealing with
- 8:14Speaker 1: rebuilding an income that can support an enormous, enormous alimony
- 8:20Speaker 1: and my kids costs, and myself, He wrote to his
- 8:22Speaker 1: brother's widow in December twenty fourteen, or excuse me, December
- 8:27Speaker 1: fourteenth of twenty eighteen, in a text message. Hunter added
- 8:32Speaker 1: that he was dealing with the aftermath of the abduction
- 8:35Speaker 1: and likely assassination. That's what New York Times suspected of
- 8:40Speaker 1: his business partner, the richest man in the world. The
- 8:43Speaker 1: arrest and conviction of my client, the Chief of Intelligence
- 8:47Speaker 1: of the People's Republic of China by the US government,
- 8:50Speaker 1: the retaliation of the Chinese in the ouster, and arrest
- 8:53Speaker 1: of US suspected CIA operatives inside of China, he said.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Hunter then wrote, my suspected involved in brokering a deal
- 9:01Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin directly for the largest sale of oil
- 9:05Speaker 1: and gas assets inside Russia to China. And then he
- 9:09Speaker 1: wrote in his own words, a tax bill that Eric
- 9:13Speaker 1: Sware and Hunter's colleague left hang over their business. He said, Anne,
- 9:18Speaker 1: my dad running for president. It's just too much. We
- 9:22Speaker 1: also have text messages to back all of this up
- 9:24Speaker 1: from Hunter's business partner, Galore. We also have testimony from
- 9:29Speaker 1: Tony Bobo Lensky that suggests directly that Joe Biden was
- 9:33Speaker 1: not only aware of Hunter's dealings with the Russians of
- 9:36Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and with CEFE, but was actually involved in
- 9:41Speaker 1: the deals directly. How do we know that from more
- 9:45Speaker 1: text messages. Again, I ask you please take this info
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- 9:56Speaker 1: this is what people need to know right before the elections. Now,
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- 11:32Speaker 1: this story and a WhatsApp group texts from May of
- 11:36Speaker 1: twenty seventeen with his partners, Hunter discussed their business contracts.
- 11:42Speaker 1: He said, in his own words, Hey Tony, referring to
- 11:44Speaker 1: Tony Bobolenski, I have an idea in light of the
- 11:47Speaker 1: fact that we are at an impassive sorts, and both
- 11:51Speaker 1: James's lawyers and my chairman gave an emphatic no. I
- 11:56Speaker 1: think we should all meet in Romania on Tuesday of
- 11:59Speaker 1: next week. Jang Jang will be there, he wrote, Glare
- 12:04Speaker 1: then texted Bobo Lensky separately, saying when he said as chairman,
- 12:08Speaker 1: he was talking about his dad. In another message the
- 12:11Speaker 1: next day, Glar wrote to Tony Bobo Lenski, don't mention
- 12:15Speaker 1: Joe being involved. It's only when you are face to face.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I know you know that, but they are paranoid referring
- 12:22Speaker 1: to the Biden crime family. You connect that with the
- 12:26Speaker 1: now infamous email written by Glare four days earlier laying
- 12:30Speaker 1: out the plan for the ownership of their Cefie joint venture,
- 12:34Speaker 1: which was now with the Russians Vladimir Putin, the head
- 12:39Speaker 1: of China and Jee. It listed ten percent of the
- 12:43Speaker 1: equity for Jim Biden and ten percent held by Hunter
- 12:47Speaker 1: for the big guy. We all know who the big
- 12:50Speaker 1: guy is. It is the President of the United States
- 12:52Speaker 1: of America, Joe Biden. Bobo Lensky claims that the big
- 12:56Speaker 1: guy is Joe Biden. Same phrase is used to reference
- 13:01Speaker 1: to Joe multiple times in other emails and text messages
- 13:05Speaker 1: on Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop. Now, Glare obviously knew how
- 13:10Speaker 1: important it was to protect the Biden crime family from
- 13:14Speaker 1: the Chinese and from Vladimir Putin. That's why He doubled down,
- 13:18Speaker 1: telling the Wall Street Journal in October of twenty twenty, quote,
- 13:22Speaker 1: I am unaware of any involvement at any time of
- 13:26Speaker 1: the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered
- 13:31Speaker 1: any project revenue. He went on to claim. The problem
- 13:35Speaker 1: is we know from the text messages that just isn't true. Now,
- 13:39Speaker 1: when this story broke, there was another headline from a
- 13:43Speaker 1: liberal publication, Slate dot com, and this was their headline
- 13:48Speaker 1: today because they knew that this story was going to break,
- 13:51Speaker 1: And these pictures of g and other top officials with
- 13:55Speaker 1: Hunter and James Biden businesses were meeting with Vladimir Putin
- 13:59Speaker 1: in Budapest. This is what the headline reads. The midterms
- 14:03Speaker 1: are about Hunter's laptop. Uh, yes, that's exactly what their
- 14:09Speaker 1: headline is. This is what their first paragraph says. The
- 14:16Speaker 1: elephant is an appropriate symbol for the GOP because the
- 14:20Speaker 1: thing about contemporary Republicans is that they never ever forget
- 14:25Speaker 1: a bull blank grievance. So now the Hunter Biden issue
- 14:29Speaker 1: is a BS grievance. They write, fifty years from now,
- 14:33Speaker 1: when Baron Trump Junior is present, will all be paying
- 14:37Speaker 1: three hundred hours per gallon for portable water future Republicans
- 14:41Speaker 1: will still be shouting about Peter Struck and cultural Marxism.
- 14:46Speaker 1: This state of sustained grievance is especially notable within right
- 14:50Speaker 1: wing media, which now exists primarily to keep old bull
- 14:54Speaker 1: bs in the news while folding new BS into an
- 14:58Speaker 1: ongoing narrative of servative victimhood, liberal mediocracy, and general moral decay.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I use the term BS deliberately. They spell the whole
- 15:09Speaker 1: word out because of Fox News and of course talk
- 15:12Speaker 1: radio guys like myself, the grievance surfaced are rarely outright
- 15:16Speaker 1: lies or inventions. Many times, instead, they tend to be
- 15:20Speaker 1: rooted as well in anecdotal evidence and selective observations, which
- 15:25Speaker 1: become full blown BS throughout exaggeration and well just lies.
- 15:32Speaker 1: They point to the hunter Biden's story as the number
- 15:35Speaker 1: one issue. The word BS continues to be seen in
- 15:39Speaker 1: this entire article. Now why was this written in Slate?
- 15:41Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly why, because now they understand the
- 15:44Speaker 1: wheels are coming off the bus, and they understand now
- 15:47Speaker 1: just how bad this could be if Republicans win back
- 15:50Speaker 1: the House and the Senate. Now this comes all these
- 15:53Speaker 1: text messages that I just read for you, and now
- 15:55Speaker 1: that we know that Hunter Biden was in fact working
- 15:58Speaker 1: for the Chinese Communist Party, working for Russia at the
- 16:01Speaker 1: exact same time, and putting together the biggest oil deal
- 16:05Speaker 1: in history in Russia. We now know more about not
- 16:09Speaker 1: only the deal, but also how much it costs to
- 16:11Speaker 1: buy off the Bidens. There's another issue that's come up
- 16:15Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours. FBI official who is
- 16:20Speaker 1: tied to Hunter Biden censorship warned the media that they
- 16:26Speaker 1: must be held accountable for their actions. That's right. One
- 16:32Speaker 1: of the FBI agents who apparently briefed Facebook and possibly
- 16:37Speaker 1: Twitter before the social network restricted the Washington excuse me
- 16:42Speaker 1: the New York Posts expose on Hunter Biden's laptop in
- 16:45Speaker 1: October of twenty twenty, right before the election, declared in
- 16:49Speaker 1: a meeting with Twitter we now know and Homeland Security
- 16:53Speaker 1: officials earlier this year, that the media needs to be
- 16:56Speaker 1: quote held accountable for spreading so called disinformation that according
- 17:03Speaker 1: to new reports that have come out. Laura Demlo, the
- 17:07Speaker 1: Section chief of the bureaus Foreign Influenced Task Force, apparently
- 17:11Speaker 1: that's now a real thing that your tax dollars are
- 17:14Speaker 1: paying for. The FBI's Foreign Influenced Task Force was involved
- 17:19Speaker 1: in discussions between the FBI and Facebook. They also warned
- 17:24Speaker 1: in the March meeting that there could be subversive content
- 17:29Speaker 1: online that could erode public support for the government. The
- 17:34Speaker 1: Intercept is now reporting on this exclusive. During this meeting,
- 17:39Speaker 1: it was emphasized by attendees that they need to pay
- 17:44Speaker 1: attention who was in attendance. Executives and this is something
- 17:48Speaker 1: that's very interesting from two different platforms, one that social
- 17:52Speaker 1: media and one that has nothing to do with social media.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Executives were there from Twitter and JP Morgan Chase. What
- 18:01Speaker 1: was said that we need We need a media infrastructure
- 18:07Speaker 1: that is held accountable. Translation, if you don't report what
- 18:11Speaker 1: we tell you to report, if you don't say what
- 18:16Speaker 1: we tell you to say, there will be hell to
- 18:19Speaker 1: pay from the United States government, directly from the FBI. Now,
- 18:24Speaker 1: the second question is why the hell would JP Morgan
- 18:26Speaker 1: Chase be there. Why would a bank be there? Could
- 18:30Speaker 1: possibly because January the sixth and the fact that they
- 18:33Speaker 1: gave a bunch of banking records over to the federal government.
- 18:36Speaker 1: It also could be because JP Morgan Chase is a hardcore,
- 18:39Speaker 1: woke liberal bank that just stopped the banking for example
- 18:42Speaker 1: and close the accounts of some top conservatives out there,
- 18:46Speaker 1: and Kanye West. If I'm not mistaken that right is
- 18:49Speaker 1: my producer. Wasn't that just a week ago when they
- 18:51Speaker 1: said we're gonna shut down all your bank accounts. So
- 18:55Speaker 1: if you've got a bank account with JP Morgan Chase,
- 18:57Speaker 1: you might want to think about what you're doing with
- 18:59Speaker 1: them now. The gathering, they say, was part of a
- 19:02Speaker 1: discussion involving the Cyber Security Advisory Committee, which operates under
- 19:07Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security, addressing how the FBI could
- 19:11Speaker 1: combat false information from foreign entities. Again, the question is
- 19:15Speaker 1: why was JP Morgan chasing the room and the talks
- 19:19Speaker 1: with Facebook Prior to the suppression of the Hunter Biden story.
- 19:24Speaker 1: The FBI was also talking about this, saying you better
- 19:28Speaker 1: listen to us, and they were accompanied also by Elvis Chan,
- 19:31Speaker 1: an FBI agent in the San Francisco Fields office, for
- 19:35Speaker 1: that initial meeting. Mark Zuckerberg, the founder and CEO of Facebook,
- 19:40Speaker 1: admitted in an interview in August that the company suppressed
- 19:43Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden's story after the FBI issued a vague
- 19:47Speaker 1: warning about possible Russian propaganda in the twenty presidential election cycle. Basically,
- 19:54Speaker 1: the background here is the FBI I think basically came
- 19:57Speaker 1: to us. In fact, you know what I want you
- 19:59Speaker 1: to hear zucker his own words. Take a list into
- 20:02Speaker 1: what Zuckerberg said as a reminder of how we got
- 20:05Speaker 1: to this point of the FBI somehow being involved with JP, Morgan,
- 20:09Speaker 1: Chase and all the big tech companies. And by the way,
- 20:14Speaker 1: just for historical context here, don't forget that when Zuckerberg
- 20:18Speaker 1: was admitting that they silenced right and shut down the story. Okay,
- 20:22Speaker 1: I just want to be clear about this. When they
- 20:25Speaker 1: did this, all right, let's be let's be very very
- 20:28Speaker 1: very clear. He wants you to praise him because he says, well,
- 20:32Speaker 1: we didn't do exactly what Twitter did. We didn't ban
- 20:34Speaker 1: the story. We just suppressed the hell out of it
- 20:36Speaker 1: so no one could see it. That's what he said instead, Right,
- 20:39Speaker 1: we didn't ban it. We just we just kind of
- 20:41Speaker 1: shut it down and suppressed it. But you should thank
- 20:45Speaker 1: us for that. Here's what he had to say in
- 20:48Speaker 1: that conversation with Joe Rogan. A different path than Twitter.
- 20:52Speaker 1: I mean, basically the background here is the FBI I
- 20:55Speaker 1: think basically came to us some folks on our team.
- 20:58Speaker 1: It was like, hey, just so you know, like you
- 21:01Speaker 1: should be on high alert. There was We thought that
- 21:04Speaker 1: there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the twenty
- 21:06Speaker 1: sixteen election. We have it on notice that basically there's
- 21:10Speaker 1: about to be some kind of dump of that's similar
- 21:16Speaker 1: to that, so just be vigilant. So our protocol is
- 21:19Speaker 1: different from Twitters. What Twitter did is they said you
- 21:22Speaker 1: can't share this at all. We didn't do that. What
- 21:26Speaker 1: we do is we have if something's reported to us
- 21:29Speaker 1: as potentially misinformation important misinformation. We also the third party
- 21:35Speaker 1: fact checking program because we don't want to be deciding
- 21:37Speaker 1: what's true and false. And for the I think it
- 21:40Speaker 1: was five or seven days when it was basically being
- 21:45Speaker 1: being determined whether it was false. The distribution on Facebook
- 21:52Speaker 1: was decreased, but people were still allowed to share it,
- 21:54Speaker 1: so you could still share it, you could still consume it.
- 21:57Speaker 1: We say the distribution is decreased, it got shared it
- 22:01Speaker 1: basically the ranking and news feed was a little bit less,
- 22:03Speaker 1: so fewer people saw it than would have otherwise. So
- 22:07Speaker 1: it definitely by what percentage, I don't know off the
- 22:10Speaker 1: top of my head, but it's it's it's meaningful, but
- 22:12Speaker 1: I mean, but basically a lot of people are still
- 22:17Speaker 1: able to share it. We got a lot of complaints
- 22:20Speaker 1: that was the case. You know, obviously this is a
- 22:23Speaker 1: hyper political issue. So depending on what side of the
- 22:25Speaker 1: political spectrum, you either think we didn't censor it enough
- 22:27Speaker 1: or censored it way too much. But but we weren't
- 22:30Speaker 1: sort of as black and white about it as Twitter.
- 22:32Speaker 1: We just kind of thought, hey, look, if the FBI,
- 22:34Speaker 1: which I still view as a legitimate institution in this country,
- 22:38Speaker 1: it's a very professional law enforcement they come to us
- 22:41Speaker 1: and tell us that we need to be on guard
- 22:43Speaker 1: about something that I want to take that seriously. Did
- 22:45Speaker 1: they specifically say you need to be on guard about
- 22:47Speaker 1: that story? I no, I don't remember if it was
- 22:51Speaker 1: that specifically, but it was it basically fit the pattern
- 22:54Speaker 1: when something like that turns out to be real. Is
- 22:57Speaker 1: there regret for not having it evenly distributed and for
- 23:03Speaker 1: throttling the distribution of that story? What do you mean
- 23:07Speaker 1: evenly distributed? I mean evenly in that it's not suppressed.
- 23:11Speaker 1: It's not yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it sucks,
- 23:15Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I mean, because I mean it turned out
- 23:17Speaker 1: after the fact, I mean, the fact checkers looked into it.
- 23:19Speaker 1: No one was able to say it was false, right,
- 23:21Speaker 1: So so basically it had this period where it was
- 23:24Speaker 1: getting less distribution. U. So, yeah, I mean, I but
- 23:28Speaker 1: I think, like I think it probably it sucks though
- 23:31Speaker 1: I think in the same way that probably having to
- 23:34Speaker 1: go through like a criminal trial but being proven innocent
- 23:37Speaker 1: in the end, it sucks. Like it still sucks to
- 23:39Speaker 1: have like that, you had to go through a criminal trial,
- 23:42Speaker 1: but at the end you're free. So it's I don't
- 23:46Speaker 1: know if the answer would have been don't do anything
- 23:48Speaker 1: or don't have any process. I think the process was
- 23:51Speaker 1: pretty reasonable, you know. It's we still let people share it.
- 23:54Speaker 1: But but obviously you don't want situations like that. I
- 23:57Speaker 1: love this, right, It sucks you change is an altar,
- 24:00Speaker 1: the outcome of an election to have the guy win
- 24:03Speaker 1: that you wanted to win. And then you say, yeah,
- 24:06Speaker 1: it kind of sucked that that. I mean that that's
- 24:10Speaker 1: your play here. Yeah it sucked, like you know, I
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- 26:09Speaker 1: dot com. This explosive new article at the Interset is
- 26:16Speaker 1: now coming through years of internal Department of Homeland Security documents.
- 26:22Speaker 1: They also uncovered an extensive effort to influence big tech platforms,
- 26:27Speaker 1: which these platforms enthusiastically went along with. While this sort
- 26:32Speaker 1: of activity first came on their radar screen during the
- 26:35Speaker 1: Disinformation Government Government's Board fiasco, this has been going on
- 26:41Speaker 1: behind the scenes, we're now being told apparently since at
- 26:44Speaker 1: least two thousand and eighteen, in fact, prior to the
- 26:48Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn,
- 26:55Speaker 1: and Verizon Media. We're meeting on a monthly basis, were
- 27:00Speaker 1: now being told with the FBI and the CISA, part
- 27:05Speaker 1: of the Department of Home Insecurity, as well as other
- 27:08Speaker 1: government representatives as part of an initiative to quote handle
- 27:11Speaker 1: misinformation during the election cycles. Meeting minutes uncovered from a
- 27:19Speaker 1: lawsuit by the Missouri Attorney General Eric Smith now revealed
- 27:23Speaker 1: that the discussions between the Department of Home in Security
- 27:27Speaker 1: and big tech companies have included the logistics of simplifying
- 27:32Speaker 1: takedown requests for so called false or intentionally misleading information. Well,
- 27:39Speaker 1: that's an easy way to get rid of Republicans online. Right.
- 27:43Speaker 1: In February of this year, Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a
- 27:49Speaker 1: farmer Department of Home in Security official, himself, texted the
- 27:54Speaker 1: Department of Home Insecurity director saying platforms have got to
- 27:59Speaker 1: get comfortable with a government. It's really interesting how hesitant
- 28:04Speaker 1: they remain. In a meeting the next month, the FBI
- 28:08Speaker 1: official Laura Dimlo warned of the quote threat of subversive
- 28:14Speaker 1: information on social media undermining support for the US government.
- 28:20Speaker 1: That sounds like a conversation you would think would have
- 28:22Speaker 1: you had in like Russia or China. You'd be right,
- 28:25Speaker 1: except now your tax hours are paying for these conversations
- 28:28Speaker 1: with big tech. Most damning was the revelation now that
- 28:32Speaker 1: the government employees have a formalized process for complaining about
- 28:38Speaker 1: posts on Facebook and Instagram to get them censored immediately.
- 28:43Speaker 1: There is also a formalized process we're now being told
- 28:46Speaker 1: for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or
- 28:51Speaker 1: Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through
- 28:55Speaker 1: a special Facebook portal that requires a government our law
- 29:00Speaker 1: enforcement email to use at the time of the writing
- 29:05Speaker 1: of the article. The content request systems at Facebook dot
- 29:09Speaker 1: com slash x takedown slash law again, it's still live.
- 29:14Speaker 1: You can go there and you can email if you've
- 29:16Speaker 1: got the right email address. I want you to hear
- 29:19Speaker 1: more of this conversation as it's being exposed as hunter
- 29:23Speaker 1: It's Tuger Carlston talked about it as well. Earlier this year,
- 29:26Speaker 1: the Department of Humbland Security published It's established its own
- 29:29Speaker 1: Ministry of Truth. It was so ridiculous it had to
- 29:31Speaker 1: be dismanded almost immediately when running it was so far out.
- 29:35Speaker 1: She was a parody and discredited the censorship movement. But
- 29:39Speaker 1: that doesn't mean DHS has stopped trying to censor you.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Oh they are, you just didn't know about it. Thanks
- 29:45Speaker 1: to the Intercept, which just obtained many years of internal
- 29:49Speaker 1: documents from DHS, we know that companies like Facebook and
- 29:53Speaker 1: Twitter have been working closely with the Biden administration to
- 29:57Speaker 1: quote curb speech that the administration doesn't approve of. Emails
- 30:01Speaker 1: also show that Twitter's top censor of Jagatti was just
- 30:04Speaker 1: fired by Elon Musk met every month with the Biden
- 30:07Speaker 1: administration censors at DHS to talk about new ways to
- 30:10Speaker 1: get you to shut up in the constitutional fashion. Lee
- 30:14Speaker 1: Fang broke the story. He's an investigated journals at the Intercept.
- 30:16Speaker 1: He joins us tonight, we thanks so much for coming on.
- 30:19Speaker 1: This seems like a really important story which is for
- 30:21Speaker 1: some reason being ignored. Do we get the outline structure
- 30:26Speaker 1: the administration is working with the tech companies to censor people. Yeah,
- 30:31Speaker 1: that's right, you know, Tucker. We looked at really hundreds
- 30:35Speaker 1: of documents that pain a vivid picture of the FBI
- 30:38Speaker 1: the DHS closely collaborating with the top social media platforms
- 30:42Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook to censor various forms of content under
- 30:47Speaker 1: the banner of fighting disinformation. And the story shows a
- 30:50Speaker 1: couple of things. One, it shows what you just mentioned,
- 30:52Speaker 1: a very cozy relationship between the government and these tech giants.
- 30:56Speaker 1: There's those monthly meetings that you just mentioned, but also
- 31:00Speaker 1: just very cozy emails and texts, not a very adversarial relationship.
- 31:04Speaker 1: You know. We looked at one text where Microsoft executive
- 31:07Speaker 1: text Jen Easterly, the top desinfo director at DHS, appointed
- 31:12Speaker 1: by Biden, basically saying the government needs to get the
- 31:15Speaker 1: private sector and needs to get more comfortable with the government.
- 31:18Speaker 1: They're closely collaborating on reports, talking about the expanded role
- 31:22Speaker 1: for DHS and centering a really broad collection of topic
- 31:28Speaker 1: areas of policy and political topics, and you know, just
- 31:32Speaker 1: broadly speaking of the story also just looks at the
- 31:35Speaker 1: mission creep of DHS. This is an agency that was
- 31:38Speaker 1: founded in the aftermath of nine to eleven to combat
- 31:41Speaker 1: foreign terror threats of al Qaeda and the like. But
- 31:45Speaker 1: over the last five years it's kind of evolved in
- 31:47Speaker 1: its mission. It's moved towards fighting to sinfo and their
- 31:50Speaker 1: justification is, you know, disinformation radicalizes the homeland, can lead
- 31:56Speaker 1: to disruptions in public health or in political violence, so
- 32:00Speaker 1: they have a justification. We have these documents, and they're
- 32:03Speaker 1: pushing forward with this broad censorship agenda. Criticizing the people
- 32:08Speaker 1: in charge is dangerous. You know, I don't know why
- 32:12Speaker 1: you did the story at the intercept. I'm just so
- 32:15Speaker 1: grateful that you did. It's a great story. It's a
- 32:17Speaker 1: huge public service. I hope you're rewarded for it. I
- 32:19Speaker 1: doubt you will be, but you should be. Leefang, thank
- 32:21Speaker 1: you well, Munch. It's an amazing story. And this is
- 32:25Speaker 1: again a story that should have been brought up a
- 32:27Speaker 1: long time ago. Right, this is the story that should
- 32:31Speaker 1: have been brought up a long time ago. These emails
- 32:36Speaker 1: that we're seeing the document show close collaboration between the
- 32:39Speaker 1: Department of Home ind Security and the private sector. You
- 32:42Speaker 1: have Twitter, right head guy fired by the way by
- 32:46Speaker 1: Eoon months class Sweet met monthly with the Department of
- 32:48Speaker 1: Homeland Security, discussed censorship plans of Americans and the Microsoft
- 32:53Speaker 1: executive texting the Department of Home in Security saying platforms right, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
- 33:00Speaker 1: all these and they must get more comfortable with a government. No,
- 33:03Speaker 1: why do we have to get more comfortable with the government.
- 33:06Speaker 1: That's not the job for us to get more comfortable
- 33:10Speaker 1: with the government. Right for the government to want to
- 33:12Speaker 1: sensor more people, and you should just get comfortable with it.
- 33:15Speaker 1: In other words, your phone rings and the government says,
- 33:17Speaker 1: we want this story taken down, and you just do it.
- 33:21Speaker 1: This is deep state big brother crap at a whole
- 33:24Speaker 1: other level. And it's been going on since two thousand
- 33:26Speaker 1: and sixteen. It's been open since two thousand and eighteen.
- 33:33Speaker 1: We're just now finding out about it because of an
- 33:35Speaker 1: attorney general in Missouri who said, I'm going to sue
- 33:38Speaker 1: to get the records. And once they sue to get
- 33:40Speaker 1: the records, look what we found out. Everything that we
- 33:44Speaker 1: suspected they were doing. Not only were they doing it,
- 33:46Speaker 1: they were doing it monthly. Imagine how these meetings would go,
- 33:52Speaker 1: sit down and go, hey, here's all the crap that
- 33:53Speaker 1: people are saying on the right that we don't like,
- 33:55Speaker 1: and we need you to take it all down, right,
- 33:58Speaker 1: here's everything that we want you to take down. This
- 33:59Speaker 1: is everything that we need you to take down. We
- 34:01Speaker 1: need you to just do this right away. And apparently
- 34:04Speaker 1: there was no pushback at all. There was zero pushback.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Just do it. How high you want us to jump,
- 34:14Speaker 1: will jump that high. What do you want us to do,
- 34:17Speaker 1: We'll jump that high. What do you need us to do?
- 34:20Speaker 1: Just tell us and we'll censor its silence it shut
- 34:22Speaker 1: them down, take it offline. We'll do whatever it is
- 34:25Speaker 1: that you need. This is not normal in a free society.
- 34:32Speaker 1: But this is what they were doing. And when you
- 34:34Speaker 1: bring it up, they act like you're crazy for bringing
- 34:37Speaker 1: it up. They act like you're paranoid for bringing it up.
- 34:40Speaker 1: They act like you're you are lying to them if
- 34:43Speaker 1: you bring it up. I'm sorry, but this is this
- 34:48Speaker 1: is the problem, and this is the reason why we
- 34:51Speaker 1: need to get to the bottom of it at all costs.
- 34:54Speaker 1: This is why Republicans they went back the houses, and
- 34:57Speaker 1: it need to go scorched earth because if this is
- 35:00Speaker 1: we can find from one inquiry in Missouri, imagine what
- 35:05Speaker 1: we could find if Congress actually did their damn job.
- 35:08Speaker 1: It also tells you about the leaders in these companies.
- 35:12Speaker 1: These leaders in these companies, they had one agenda. It
- 35:17Speaker 1: was to sit down with the government and give the
- 35:20Speaker 1: government the keys to their city. And they did it
- 35:24Speaker 1: to curry favor with the government. And now it makes
- 35:27Speaker 1: sense why they were doing it. The reason why they
- 35:29Speaker 1: were doing is because they didn't want to be silenced.
- 35:32Speaker 1: They didn't want to be censured, they didn't want anybody
- 35:34Speaker 1: getting in their way. I think we can all agree
- 35:37Speaker 1: that's very clear now. When Jeff Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberger, I
- 35:41Speaker 1: should say, was sitting there before Congress and answering questions,
- 35:46Speaker 1: he wasn't worried. Okay that we now know. He was
- 35:51Speaker 1: not worried at all about what was going to happen.
- 35:57Speaker 1: He was not worried that they were going to actually
- 36:00Speaker 1: crack down on Twitter or on Facebook. It was all
- 36:06Speaker 1: a charade. Hey, we need to bring you into Congress
- 36:09Speaker 1: who to yell at you for a minute, talk about
- 36:10Speaker 1: how terrible you are. But don't worry. We're not gonna
- 36:12Speaker 1: do anything. Okay, everything's good. Don't worry. We're not gonna
- 36:17Speaker 1: We're not gonna come down on you. We're not going
- 36:20Speaker 1: to attack you. Everything's gonna be fine. It's gonna be okay.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Just let us yell at you for a little bit.
- 36:26Speaker 1: We'll look like we're doing our job even though we're
- 36:28Speaker 1: not doing our job at all. It's gonna work out
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