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- 2:09Speaker 1: My next guest is a true young rising star in Hollywood,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and I'm a big fan of his talents. He's an
- 2:14Speaker 1: accomplished singer, dancer, and actor. He first came on my
- 2:17Speaker 1: radar when he started in the movie Slight, but that
- 2:20Speaker 1: was one of many movies he has been seen in,
- 2:22Speaker 1: such as Collateral, Beauty, Detroit, Crystal Candy Jaw, Box Office
- 2:26Speaker 1: Hits and Clue, Ride Alone, and The Maze Runner. Now
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- 2:31Speaker 1: three of Showtime's original series The Shot, where he plays
- 2:35Speaker 1: the character Emmit Washington. Please welcome to money making Conversation,
- 2:39Speaker 1: Jacob A lotta moore, Jacob. What I was saying? Your name? Man?
- 2:45Speaker 1: I had just started laughing, Man, because that character Man, Man,
- 2:51Speaker 1: can I Jacob? Can I trust him? Man? Can I
- 2:55Speaker 1: trust Can I trust him? It? No? Man, can't trust him?
- 3:00Speaker 1: But that as a as the beauty of that character,
- 3:03Speaker 1: the frustration of your mom. But let's talk about your career, man,
- 3:06Speaker 1: because you've been in the game. You're young guy, and
- 3:09Speaker 1: successes came your way and a lot of people my
- 3:11Speaker 1: my career as a producer, writer, manager. Over the years,
- 3:14Speaker 1: I've had a lot of success and still having success
- 3:17Speaker 1: and sending a young talent like you come into the game.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Can you talk about how you got started take up? Yeah, well, um,
- 3:25Speaker 1: you know, music granded, you know, runs in my family.
- 3:28Speaker 1: My dad and my uncle's uh you know, seeing gospel
- 3:31Speaker 1: music and Kenny Lottimore is my cousin, my grandfather, and
- 3:35Speaker 1: my uncle Joe rest in Peace, who you know, had
- 3:38Speaker 1: their own group when they were younger. Um, so I
- 3:41Speaker 1: just grew up in a house full of musicians and singers,
- 3:44Speaker 1: and I was always you know, just hearing acapella and
- 3:49Speaker 1: and just I was absorbing so much as a child.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And then I would see you know, performances and music
- 3:54Speaker 1: videos and limos being parked outside to you know, pick
- 3:59Speaker 1: up my dad uncles for them to go to l
- 4:01Speaker 1: A when they were signing an m c A in
- 4:03Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and I was just I've just
- 4:05Speaker 1: seen this lifestyle. I was just like, what's this? You
- 4:08Speaker 1: know what? I want to do it, you know what
- 4:10Speaker 1: I mean, But you gotta have a talent to do it, though,
- 4:12Speaker 1: Jacob gotta have the talent to do it exactly so
- 4:15Speaker 1: I was just I was just over and I was
- 4:17Speaker 1: I started practicing, you know, as early as six years old,
- 4:21Speaker 1: got into the studio at nine years old. So when
- 4:25Speaker 1: you when you when did you realize you had the talent?
- 4:27Speaker 1: Because everything's cute you when you're a young kid. You know,
- 4:29Speaker 1: people he can dance, dance for the song, Mommy dance
- 4:33Speaker 1: for the song. Jake could come on, come on, and
- 4:35Speaker 1: then all the suddenly realized he has something, he has
- 4:38Speaker 1: a gift. When did that realization come on? Come come
- 4:41Speaker 1: to you? And the people surrounding you? Um, I think
- 4:45Speaker 1: it was it was more so like I think they've
- 4:50Speaker 1: seen how serious I was taking it beyond just um,
- 4:54Speaker 1: you know, just wanting to sing. I feel like my
- 4:58Speaker 1: uncle brought up something really funny. Um, and it sounds
- 5:01Speaker 1: like something I would say. He said I was about
- 5:03Speaker 1: seven or eight years old or something like that. And
- 5:06Speaker 1: then my uncle was like, Jake, look, look, Jake, you
- 5:08Speaker 1: want some McDonald's. And he said that. I said, uh
- 5:12Speaker 1: uh nah Nahum, I gotta be on stage and you
- 5:17Speaker 1: know I'm about to do this artist thing, so I
- 5:18Speaker 1: gotta watch my figure. I can't eat McDonald's. And he
- 5:24Speaker 1: said he died live and he was like what he
- 5:28Speaker 1: was like your figure, and I was just like, and
- 5:31Speaker 1: for me to know that, I love to work out
- 5:33Speaker 1: so much and I like to I like to generally
- 5:35Speaker 1: staying solid shape. So I was just like, I was like,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but it definitely sounds like something
- 5:41Speaker 1: I would say. And I just think that I just
- 5:43Speaker 1: took it so serious. I was waking up rehearsing on
- 5:46Speaker 1: my own, and I was studying so many different performers
- 5:49Speaker 1: and and and listening to how many songs. The Temptations
- 5:53Speaker 1: movie was one of my favorite movies, and uh B
- 5:56Speaker 1: t K was one of my favorite groups. I was
- 5:58Speaker 1: just in front of the television and just absorbing so
- 6:01Speaker 1: much of the entertainment of it. I was just like,
- 6:05Speaker 1: I think I think they would just like, let's put
- 6:07Speaker 1: him in the studio, just just do it. And so
- 6:10Speaker 1: your education was just your just your life, right, just
- 6:14Speaker 1: watching your family, watching people around you being successful, realizing
- 6:18Speaker 1: that you know, that's an option that was kind of
- 6:20Speaker 1: like you mentored by the opportunity because you know, if
- 6:24Speaker 1: your father is an engineer, you might watch how it
- 6:27Speaker 1: goes to work every day you become an engineer. If
- 6:29Speaker 1: somebody who seeks higher education exactly exactly as as a child,
- 6:33Speaker 1: you absorbed. You know what your parents are doing and
- 6:36Speaker 1: their lifestyle they're living, and you sort of you know,
- 6:39Speaker 1: either you fall in love with it or you don't.
- 6:41Speaker 1: But I just happen to really to really fall in
- 6:43Speaker 1: love with it and uh and want to do it
- 6:45Speaker 1: and also just take it to the next level with
- 6:47Speaker 1: my acting career and and and and dive into so
- 6:51Speaker 1: many different other things. So it was it's been a
- 6:54Speaker 1: huge blessing. I think, you know, our family is real
- 6:56Speaker 1: proud just to you know, see me like squreaming around
- 6:59Speaker 1: in the living room dancing and singing all day. So
- 7:02Speaker 1: you know, my my grandfather said, man, you didn't really
- 7:04Speaker 1: dance and shake yourself into a career. Like why that
- 7:09Speaker 1: sounds like a grandfather statement, right, yea something about yourself. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:15Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't. Yeah. He always say that too,
- 7:18Speaker 1: you know, he like they always repeat he said all
- 7:21Speaker 1: the un Yeah, so you know that that's really at
- 7:24Speaker 1: you a good looking guy. So how did the dancing
- 7:27Speaker 1: come about? I got the singing and then that and
- 7:29Speaker 1: if you're a good singer sometimes you can transition to
- 7:31Speaker 1: the acting. How did the dancing became a major part
- 7:34Speaker 1: of your portfolio. Oh you know, my dad got real
- 7:37Speaker 1: good rhythm, and my mom actually used to dance too
- 7:40Speaker 1: when she was young. So uh, and then I just,
- 7:43Speaker 1: I don't know, I just fell in love with like dancing.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I started observing myself around
- 7:50Speaker 1: dancers too. When I once I got to Atlanta, I
- 7:53Speaker 1: started going to these like dance competitions. Uh. It was
- 7:56Speaker 1: a thing that we're doing at this club. It was
- 7:59Speaker 1: called dance Invasion. Bun kids will be battling, and you know,
- 8:04Speaker 1: you just absorbed around all these great dances here in Atlanta,
- 8:07Speaker 1: and I just started making friends with them, having ciphers,
- 8:10Speaker 1: having dance battles and just being around dances, you know.
- 8:14Speaker 1: And then they were like yo, like and I was
- 8:16Speaker 1: taking a classes every now and then, but mostly it
- 8:18Speaker 1: was just like atally, just just being around and man, yeah,
- 8:22Speaker 1: like everything, every everything I wanted to do, I just
- 8:25Speaker 1: put my mind to it, and I just I didn't
- 8:28Speaker 1: you know, it was it's been dope, you know, the
- 8:30Speaker 1: great thing. But I was speaking of the Jacob Lattimore,
- 8:32Speaker 1: one of the stars of The Incredible or Showtime original
- 8:35Speaker 1: series to Shine Us. It's a family show. It's a
- 8:38Speaker 1: community show is a sometimes the uh the realism of
- 8:42Speaker 1: the series can make you angry, make you wish characters
- 8:46Speaker 1: will do something differently, and you root for people then
- 8:49Speaker 1: they then they fail you. But but I want to
- 8:52Speaker 1: move back a little bit. When I first saw you
- 8:54Speaker 1: and the movie Slip, when you played the Magician and
- 8:59Speaker 1: that was a star enrolled for you, Jacob. You know,
- 9:03Speaker 1: that's a lot to to to realize. Talk about that opportunity,
- 9:08Speaker 1: how it was presented to you, and then the whole
- 9:10Speaker 1: process of taking that that that that knowledge that this
- 9:14Speaker 1: movie is you're starting in and you have to carry
- 9:16Speaker 1: the weight of this movie. Yeah, it was actually you know,
- 9:22Speaker 1: I don't think I thought about it that hard because
- 9:24Speaker 1: I think my second film, Black Nativity, was so the
- 9:29Speaker 1: schedule was so heavy, and the amount of scenes I
- 9:32Speaker 1: was doing, you know, next to line Forest Whittaker and
- 9:35Speaker 1: like Angela Bashett and memorizing all these things that startpower,
- 9:39Speaker 1: that startpower put pressure on you right there. You just said, yeah, yeah,
- 9:44Speaker 1: that experience alone was so heavy for me. And uh
- 9:48Speaker 1: so by the time I got to a film like Slight,
- 9:50Speaker 1: which I filmed Black Nativity for about a month and
- 9:53Speaker 1: a half, I feel Slight in two weeks, which was yeah. Yeah,
- 9:59Speaker 1: Slight was an independent a film like two d and
- 10:02Speaker 1: fifty grand, you know what I mean. Like it was fantastic. Man,
- 10:06Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Man, I'm weighing on Slight two. It
- 10:09Speaker 1: was that good to me. And the characterizations and the
- 10:12Speaker 1: emotional it was. It was. What I'm saying, is that
- 10:15Speaker 1: two weeks, man, that's a lot of emotional range that
- 10:18Speaker 1: you showed in that big screen opperdate the debate right there.
- 10:23Speaker 1: That was amazing what you were doing, man. And it
- 10:25Speaker 1: was just two weeks. And that's how independent productions usually happened.
- 10:27Speaker 1: They don't have the budget, the catering or the crew
- 10:30Speaker 1: that ain't around and usually say, man, look I'm the
- 10:32Speaker 1: squeezes in my schedules, but this ain't my real money.
- 10:36Speaker 1: And that's how But but it allowed me to see
- 10:38Speaker 1: you as a as a really brilliant young actor. M Yeah, man,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It was. It was incredible, you know. Um,
- 10:47Speaker 1: I was out in l A and was so was
- 10:49Speaker 1: so funny about Slight. Slight was the only film that
- 10:52Speaker 1: I had booked that year, and I was kind of
- 10:55Speaker 1: stressing out, man, To be honest, like I was auditioning
- 10:58Speaker 1: like crazy, and I was getting a lot of nose.
- 11:01Speaker 1: You know. It was just like you're a star, but
- 11:04Speaker 1: we don't feel like you're right for this role. And
- 11:07Speaker 1: I kept getting that that in so like yeah, you're
- 11:10Speaker 1: a star and Jacobs a star, but it's just I
- 11:12Speaker 1: don't know, he's maybe too cool for this one, or
- 11:15Speaker 1: like maybe he's too much of a star for this role.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Because I was auditioning for like, you know, the like
- 11:21Speaker 1: the second role from next to the leading role, and
- 11:25Speaker 1: they were like, well, he's probably outshine the star. He's
- 11:27Speaker 1: just just to start, you know. I was just and
- 11:29Speaker 1: I was like, man, come on, man, book me in
- 11:32Speaker 1: a movie. I'm trying to work, you know. You know. So, uh,
- 11:36Speaker 1: that's that's what that's where my mind was. And then
- 11:39Speaker 1: h I remember we took Slight to Sundance the topic
- 11:43Speaker 1: of the next year. And then I got a phone
- 11:45Speaker 1: call saying that I bought Collaiteral Beauty with Will Smith
- 11:49Speaker 1: food to New York. Two weeks later worked at will
- 11:53Speaker 1: After the Will Smith movie. Uh, they said, uh, you're
- 11:56Speaker 1: gonna work with William H. Macy Um on this independent
- 12:00Speaker 1: film called Crystal. And then after that, I booked Detroit.
- 12:04Speaker 1: So I did those three films and one year after
- 12:08Speaker 1: a year prior of just barely working, you know, because
- 12:11Speaker 1: Slight was only two weeks of that year. And uh
- 12:15Speaker 1: so I was like, I was really just stressing out,
- 12:17Speaker 1: to be honest, but how did you maintain? How did
- 12:19Speaker 1: you was the family player role in that? Did your
- 12:21Speaker 1: faith player role in that? Being able to overcome that
- 12:24Speaker 1: frustration of people saying what they what they know you're talented,
- 12:27Speaker 1: but hey, we're gonna pass on this one. Rich dude
- 12:31Speaker 1: check to dude, checks on coming in, food needs to
- 12:34Speaker 1: be in your billy. What's going on right there? Yea? Honestly, man, um,
- 12:39Speaker 1: I was staying with one of my best friends. Actually
- 12:41Speaker 1: just saw him a few days ago. His his name
- 12:43Speaker 1: is Dextre Darden. I stayed out with in l A.
- 12:46Speaker 1: With him at his apartment. He had it like a
- 12:48Speaker 1: guest from bathroom and I would just sort of renting out.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I was paying him monthly, and I was just like, man,
- 12:54Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming out to l A. I want
- 12:55Speaker 1: to audition. I just want to get out here and grind.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And then uh yeah, like he was really really supportive.
- 13:02Speaker 1: He's like, you know, a really good friend of mine.
- 13:05Speaker 1: We actually met on the Major Running set actually pays
- 13:08Speaker 1: he plays Fried Pen and Uh and Maze running all
- 13:11Speaker 1: three major Runners actually and uh yeah he's he's like
- 13:14Speaker 1: a really supportive friend. Because I was away from my
- 13:17Speaker 1: mom and my dad. I really wasn't. That was like
- 13:19Speaker 1: my first time really being out on my own, you
- 13:21Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Almost like going to college's going
- 13:23Speaker 1: to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was out there on
- 13:25Speaker 1: my own, you know. So, um, I just had a
- 13:28Speaker 1: great support system, even with my friends, you know what
- 13:31Speaker 1: I mean. I was choosing my friends wisely, I was
- 13:33Speaker 1: choosing you know, I was choosing to you know, called
- 13:36Speaker 1: my family and just a movement, you know. And they
- 13:38Speaker 1: were giving me a lot of, um, just encouragement. And
- 13:41Speaker 1: I just always knew I was gonna book something because
- 13:43Speaker 1: I feel like even though they were saying no, they
- 13:45Speaker 1: were saying I was a star, which which felt good.
- 13:49Speaker 1: But I was just like, man, I need some work.
- 13:51Speaker 1: But I knew something was gonna come, and I knew
- 13:53Speaker 1: the right role was gonna man. Uh. And I just
- 13:56Speaker 1: knew a lot of people saw something in me. And
- 13:58Speaker 1: my agents were like, look this, how was a the time?
- 14:00Speaker 1: Sometimes a year of nose and then the next year
- 14:04Speaker 1: could be just full of work. So and be ready.
- 14:06Speaker 1: That in Hollywood is is to be ready, be it.
- 14:09Speaker 1: That's to start lyne being at when they said go
- 14:12Speaker 1: be ready. That's what Hollywood all about. It could be frustrating,
- 14:15Speaker 1: but it also could be It also could be like, wow,
- 14:18Speaker 1: this is why I want to do this. And one
- 14:20Speaker 1: of the movies you played in with Trot Detroit. When
- 14:23Speaker 1: I look at the civil unrest now that we all
- 14:25Speaker 1: are experiencing now and doing the time of pandemic, you
- 14:28Speaker 1: know you did that. Of course you did that movie
- 14:30Speaker 1: prior to the George Floyd and all the situations that
- 14:33Speaker 1: are but beer on the Taylor and all these things
- 14:35Speaker 1: that have been going on on a regular basis that
- 14:38Speaker 1: talk to us about when you do you look back
- 14:40Speaker 1: on that movie now and think about what's going on
- 14:42Speaker 1: right now in the in the world today, not only
- 14:45Speaker 1: just in the US, of the world in general. Oh yeah, absolutely,
- 14:50Speaker 1: Like um, you know, we we thought we thought that
- 14:54Speaker 1: film would really Obviously I think the longevity of it
- 14:58Speaker 1: still speaks valumes, but we really out it would go.
- 15:01Speaker 1: It would it would blow up much bigger than it did.
- 15:05Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because we were touching on
- 15:07Speaker 1: something so so relevant. But I think that the reality
- 15:10Speaker 1: of it was no one really wanted to go to
- 15:12Speaker 1: a movie theater and see something that they're seeing on
- 15:15Speaker 1: CNN every day, and uh, you know, and it was
- 15:18Speaker 1: just like it was hard for people to watch it. Man,
- 15:21Speaker 1: it was like it really was hard. I would tell
- 15:23Speaker 1: you that I watched that at the house. It was
- 15:25Speaker 1: difficult because the truth, it was the truth. Yeah, people
- 15:29Speaker 1: are like, man, I need a cigarette and I need
- 15:31Speaker 1: a drink. You know, people are leaving the theater and
- 15:34Speaker 1: I was just like, I was like, wow, like it's
- 15:38Speaker 1: and and people come out crying. They would come out
- 15:40Speaker 1: of hugglers and it was it was really emotional. So
- 15:44Speaker 1: the impact was was so dope. And just to to
- 15:48Speaker 1: know that film still speaks volumes and the speaking values
- 15:51Speaker 1: over these years so and it will speak volumes after
- 15:54Speaker 1: we're going and after our careers are done, you know.
- 15:56Speaker 1: So I'm happy I was able to get a film
- 15:58Speaker 1: like that under my belt. And I usually try to
- 16:01Speaker 1: do a variety of different films. Well you do, you know,
- 16:03Speaker 1: and uh, the the ability to be able to go
- 16:06Speaker 1: from you know, because Maze Running was a sci fi
- 16:09Speaker 1: you know, and then you had you know, ride Along
- 16:11Speaker 1: with a comedy and Detroit was just dramatic. And then
- 16:15Speaker 1: of course Slight a true star and Roll. To me,
- 16:18Speaker 1: that was to me, that was the movie that said
- 16:20Speaker 1: it for me. As a fan of Jacob Lattimore, I
- 16:22Speaker 1: became a fan Jacob. I'm wan't no Slight too? Can
- 16:25Speaker 1: you do it? Go find me and something bro something something, man,
- 16:28Speaker 1: you know, it's so funny. I actually reached out to
- 16:30Speaker 1: the director um and I was h J D. Dillon.
- 16:34Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, what you what you think
- 16:35Speaker 1: about a flight too? He was like, I just don't
- 16:37Speaker 1: know if I'm interested. And he's like, I don't wanna do.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I want to do something different with you. Man, I
- 16:45Speaker 1: didn't want to do like something different, you know. He said,
- 16:48Speaker 1: I'm working on this different film. I want to send
- 16:50Speaker 1: you the script. So I think for him it was
- 16:53Speaker 1: Slight was like a step for him and you know,
- 16:56Speaker 1: a phase for him, like he he created a store.
- 17:00Speaker 1: But I think, um, I think he just he just
- 17:03Speaker 1: loves what we did already, absolutely no argument. I'm just
- 17:07Speaker 1: as a producer, as a guy who looks at the
- 17:09Speaker 1: talented person and I see how sequels do well and
- 17:11Speaker 1: I see this as a it's a lot of things
- 17:13Speaker 1: could have come out of that series or a Netflix series. Uh,
- 17:17Speaker 1: you know, with three series a lot because it was
- 17:20Speaker 1: just that good. It was just that personal and you
- 17:22Speaker 1: and you play a young character which I felt was
- 17:24Speaker 1: relatable to what's going on in the Marvel universe right now.
- 17:28Speaker 1: But but right now here, right now, you're starting in
- 17:31Speaker 1: the shot, how did that come about? And this character.
- 17:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, I don't know if
- 17:37Speaker 1: I um, if I was your big brother, I hit
- 17:41Speaker 1: you in the chest, dad center in your chest and
- 17:47Speaker 1: tell you get your life together. Boy. It ain't in
- 17:50Speaker 1: your parts. Your life ain't in your parts. It's in
- 17:52Speaker 1: your head above your should. So tell us how that
- 17:56Speaker 1: character came about, honestly, And it was. It was I
- 18:02Speaker 1: think auditioned maybe three or three times. Once it was
- 18:06Speaker 1: on tape. Then I flew out to l a um had.
- 18:10Speaker 1: It was like maybe four other people auditioning for Emmet,
- 18:14Speaker 1: and they were kind of throwing us in and out
- 18:16Speaker 1: the room with different um actresses that we're gonna play
- 18:19Speaker 1: the mother row And uh, I met Yolanda who who
- 18:23Speaker 1: was casting now and I was seeing her and and
- 18:26Speaker 1: I just didn't know what was going on. I just
- 18:27Speaker 1: wanted to go in there and just you know, be myself,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and I have a lot of personality, and you know,
- 18:33Speaker 1: luckily it came out of my way and I think
- 18:35Speaker 1: we got right to work, and I just I fell
- 18:38Speaker 1: in love with it. It was like, you know, I felt,
- 18:40Speaker 1: I really I was really nervous, to be honest, because obviously, um,
- 18:44Speaker 1: different Chicago projects hadn't really like nailed you know, the city.
- 18:48Speaker 1: You know, they didn't really a lot of people didn't
- 18:50Speaker 1: you know, appreciate some of the prior projects that were
- 18:53Speaker 1: in Chicago. And I was just like, man, we gotta
- 18:56Speaker 1: we gotta be dope, we gotta be flying, we gotta
- 18:59Speaker 1: be fresh, you know what I mean. I was, remember
- 19:02Speaker 1: you right down the road from you, right up the
- 19:04Speaker 1: road from Chicago, malwalking. Yeah. And that was the beauty too,
- 19:08Speaker 1: you know, to just like be able to you know,
- 19:10Speaker 1: work where my family could kind of you know, drive
- 19:14Speaker 1: and come see me too. It was, you know, it's
- 19:15Speaker 1: only an hour by hour and Chicago five years, very
- 19:19Speaker 1: familiar with Chicago. We're gonna talk about that a little bit.
- 19:21Speaker 1: But then the beauty of this when you said keep
- 19:23Speaker 1: it real, like I live in Chicago five years from twelve,
- 19:28Speaker 1: and uh, and you're right, you know the the Chicago
- 19:32Speaker 1: is an amazing city. You know, it's a very summer
- 19:35Speaker 1: is a very violent city. A lot of people aren't
- 19:37Speaker 1: aware of that. I don't know what happens to black
- 19:39Speaker 1: people up there, but on the major holidays, they're sitting
- 19:42Speaker 1: there want to shoot each other. And that's sad and
- 19:45Speaker 1: and and and and it's captured in this in this
- 19:48Speaker 1: series because there's a lot of hope, but there's a
- 19:50Speaker 1: lot of tragedy. Talk about the season one, season two,
- 19:54Speaker 1: season three, has your has your how your character has
- 19:56Speaker 1: developed each season in it? I call you in it,
- 19:59Speaker 1: but I know you, Jake, Yeah, I think, um. I
- 20:03Speaker 1: think we're definitely seeing him grow in areas um and
- 20:07Speaker 1: then definitely see where his weaknesses continue to be. You know,
- 20:11Speaker 1: what is this week? What is this week? If Jacob?
- 20:14Speaker 1: What is this week? Women? Women? The fog? You teller
- 20:16Speaker 1: told you what your weakness was? Is the voice when
- 20:27Speaker 1: I when I first when we had the table read,
- 20:29Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, I can't believe this. Ladies
- 20:33Speaker 1: said that right in front the tiff, please place your
- 20:37Speaker 1: girlfriend and was the mother of your child? What are
- 20:39Speaker 1: your children? I knew. I knew. Once we thought that
- 20:43Speaker 1: it was gonna go crazy, I was like, oh my goodness,
- 20:46Speaker 1: it seemed about to go Wow. Um, what's so dumbe
- 20:51Speaker 1: about the shots that I'm able to dive into keep
- 20:54Speaker 1: diving into a character every year, Like you know, with Slider,
- 20:57Speaker 1: like other films I've done, I only had one opportun tunity, right,
- 21:00Speaker 1: you know, but with Shot, with the shot, just keep
- 21:04Speaker 1: every year I find new ways to be Immit, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 1: and bring out you know, his personality is swag and
- 21:11Speaker 1: and dig deeper into you know who Immitt was, you
- 21:14Speaker 1: know who he is now. So it's just, um, it's
- 21:17Speaker 1: really fun. It's really fun. It's a lot of funks.
- 21:20Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun, Jacob, because you know, like
- 21:22Speaker 1: you have this is acting, man, this is a gift
- 21:24Speaker 1: that you have. She you have this. It's like it's
- 21:27Speaker 1: like a kid getting coat, sticking a hand in the
- 21:30Speaker 1: cookie jaw. Look that you have, you know, like, what's wrong,
- 21:35Speaker 1: what's wrong, what's the problem, what's the problem, that's what's
- 21:39Speaker 1: your problem? Looked that you have mastered it is what
- 21:42Speaker 1: makes your character work for me, because you keep getting
- 21:45Speaker 1: into trouble after trouble after trouble, and it's all like
- 21:49Speaker 1: it's always like with your hands out, what's wrong, what's problem?
- 21:52Speaker 1: What's problem? Right? Right exactly. Yeah, It's just it's so
- 21:58Speaker 1: fun to play, to play him now, I feel like
- 22:00Speaker 1: it wasn't until I played the show where I feel
- 22:03Speaker 1: like I unpacked it. Uh, people on a different level.
- 22:07Speaker 1: I think, I think I've I've played some really incredible roles,
- 22:10Speaker 1: but the show has really made a stamp on the culture.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Like when I walked down the street, people don't even
- 22:17Speaker 1: call me Jacob. They called me Image called me. Yeah,
- 22:21Speaker 1: I was there. I was in Cleveland not too long ago,
- 22:25Speaker 1: out there getting some education on some stuff. And then
- 22:28Speaker 1: like I would stopped at the gas station or stop
- 22:30Speaker 1: at the restaurant, and they'd be like yo, yo yo,
- 22:34Speaker 1: you know, like it's just when you when you know,
- 22:37Speaker 1: when you know Jacob. Let's be real now, you know
- 22:41Speaker 1: that Image character is a highly sex charge character. So
- 22:45Speaker 1: I'm sure people look at you from a Ladies Pacific
- 22:48Speaker 1: there from a different angle now. Now, Yeah, it's definitely
- 22:51Speaker 1: been different. I think I even think a lot of
- 22:53Speaker 1: people just now realizing that is Jacob, which is who
- 22:58Speaker 1: is me? I'm just like, and I just realized Jacob.
- 23:00Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of these twos now, I'm just
- 23:02Speaker 1: realizing Jacob Lottimore is playing IM on the show. I've
- 23:04Speaker 1: been watching this show for two seasons. I didn't know
- 23:06Speaker 1: that was Jacob. And I was just like, I'm like,
- 23:09Speaker 1: I'm muna be really anything, because well, you know the
- 23:11Speaker 1: thing about here's here's the interesting about our relationship. You know,
- 23:14Speaker 1: like when I've been doing my main conrontation a couple
- 23:16Speaker 1: of years and when the show came on the shy
- 23:19Speaker 1: you know they was there was totally you know, let's
- 23:21Speaker 1: get Jacob on your show. Just get him on your
- 23:23Speaker 1: show so you can interview him. And I'm glad I waited.
- 23:26Speaker 1: We just couldn't connect because talking about your character now
- 23:29Speaker 1: is a really great opportunity. Because the beginning of the
- 23:33Speaker 1: first of all this season, they brought on some great
- 23:36Speaker 1: additional cast members. My boy Luke James, Oh my god,
- 23:39Speaker 1: what he's doing in that character, Candy Burrows, Wow, she's
- 23:43Speaker 1: nailing it, nailing And then little Real you know, Zike
- 23:48Speaker 1: playing the character Zeke springing comedy, but you know how
- 23:52Speaker 1: he does it. He can play serious but actually so
- 23:54Speaker 1: funny that it comes across like a joke every time
- 23:56Speaker 1: he opened just doing and so, and that's that's what
- 24:00Speaker 1: you're saying when you when you got the chance to
- 24:02Speaker 1: play against Will Smith, you know, Angela Bassett, you bring
- 24:05Speaker 1: on all the additional talent. It causes you as a
- 24:08Speaker 1: talent to step up your game as well. Correct, Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
- 24:12Speaker 1: I think you know Eshipedia having a great cash you know,
- 24:15Speaker 1: we are can help out each other and motivate each
- 24:18Speaker 1: other to do to do better and it makes a
- 24:21Speaker 1: great show. And you know, as long as the chemistry
- 24:23Speaker 1: is amazing, um, we can always we can always make
- 24:27Speaker 1: a scene work, you know. So it's it's been, it's
- 24:29Speaker 1: been a blessing because let's at the stage where yet
- 24:31Speaker 1: with the character again brought in Lala Anthony. She's your
- 24:34Speaker 1: supposedly business partner, but we found out last night you're
- 24:38Speaker 1: a little bit more than your business partner, sir. And
- 24:41Speaker 1: then you have ty'are living at the home with your
- 24:43Speaker 1: mom on the sofa, you know, sales she kind of
- 24:47Speaker 1: she han't got the license here, but she kind of
- 24:49Speaker 1: sells weed. That's the way she brings money into the household.
- 24:54Speaker 1: And so did you have these other characters that are
- 24:56Speaker 1: out there, Keisha, she was she was being hell captive,
- 25:00Speaker 1: this crazy guy in the basement of his home. You
- 25:02Speaker 1: have Ronnie out there trying to redeem himselves. But the
- 25:05Speaker 1: season opened this year which you are in tears, which
- 25:09Speaker 1: I thought wasn't at the amazing moment when I see
- 25:12Speaker 1: an actor able to deliver an emotional like that, tell
- 25:16Speaker 1: us how you you know? Because you will? That was
- 25:18Speaker 1: That was the That was the funeral moment of the
- 25:21Speaker 1: open scene of the season. How did you get the
- 25:23Speaker 1: emotionally to deliver that type of moment in the opening
- 25:27Speaker 1: the premier season of the third season premiere episode of
- 25:29Speaker 1: the third season got Um, honestly, I'm a crier anyway,
- 25:34Speaker 1: you know, because I'm a crying to I'm gonna crying through. Yeah. Yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 1: like I cry. I'm like, yeah, it's time to cry.
- 25:42Speaker 1: I'll be back, you know. Um. I think for me,
- 25:45Speaker 1: I have just lost the cousins earlier that year, so
- 25:49Speaker 1: I was it wasn't too long ago that I was,
- 25:52Speaker 1: you know, at the funeral, and uh, it just kind
- 25:56Speaker 1: of hit home, you know, for for me in my
- 25:58Speaker 1: personal life and just I think the energy of the funeral,
- 26:02Speaker 1: the energy of the casket, Uh, it's just it's strong,
- 26:07Speaker 1: you know, without just being there, which alone was just uh,
- 26:11Speaker 1: I've never been a call there before, carrying the casket
- 26:13Speaker 1: to the to the to the car before. I just
- 26:16Speaker 1: I've never I've never been in that position, so uh
- 26:20Speaker 1: to feel that weight of the casket, to be that
- 26:23Speaker 1: close was just it just felt all too real, to
- 26:26Speaker 1: be honest, and uh, I just let it flow. I
- 26:30Speaker 1: let it flow. And I think you know, the directors
- 26:32Speaker 1: was like, let's just let's film, let's get it, get
- 26:35Speaker 1: it there and there in it then so and everybody
- 26:38Speaker 1: had tears. You know, a lot of changes were made.
- 26:41Speaker 1: I think that was just that was kind of sad too,
- 26:43Speaker 1: to be honest. I was just like, man, you know, um,
- 26:47Speaker 1: it's just so much, so much change, and uh it
- 26:49Speaker 1: just felt so real. But it felt like we were
- 26:51Speaker 1: all growing to at the same time. So um, that's
- 26:54Speaker 1: how I tapped in. That's just it's we played a
- 26:58Speaker 1: major role for me as far is this whole series.
- 27:01Speaker 1: When I you know the name of Mael show with
- 27:03Speaker 1: money making conversations and I always bring people on to
- 27:06Speaker 1: talk about how they run their business or how they
- 27:09Speaker 1: plan their business. And when I look at your character
- 27:12Speaker 1: in it, you know, catering. You you did the opening
- 27:16Speaker 1: catering and yeah, you know, you got everybody to bring
- 27:19Speaker 1: from different stores and they wind up ordering pizza at
- 27:22Speaker 1: the wedding, and so you make as a young startup business.
- 27:28Speaker 1: If I had to use you as an example on
- 27:30Speaker 1: my show, you make all the mistakes. Your character in
- 27:33Speaker 1: It makes all the mistakes. Is he ever gonna get
- 27:36Speaker 1: it right? Or that's revealing too much of the upcoming episodes.
- 27:40Speaker 1: You know what I always learned, just in business, ready
- 27:45Speaker 1: to failure. W're ready to failure because in the end
- 27:49Speaker 1: you're gonna know, you're gonna know all the mistakes you made,
- 27:51Speaker 1: You're gonna be successful. So I think that, like im
- 27:54Speaker 1: it is really human Right now, I feel like he's
- 27:57Speaker 1: like business wise, I feel like he's I feel like
- 28:01Speaker 1: that's the only area he's really grown in to be honest,
- 28:03Speaker 1: Like absolutely, That's what I'm excited about it, Jacob, that
- 28:06Speaker 1: character because I'm rooting for it. But then when you
- 28:09Speaker 1: had the moment with Dom that just like come on please, right,
- 28:14Speaker 1: But I think like for that that it's like that's
- 28:17Speaker 1: a separate thing, right, I feel like maybe he hasn't
- 28:20Speaker 1: really developed into maybe you know a man, responsible man, Yeah,
- 28:25Speaker 1: responsible man in a relationship. But I feel like when
- 28:27Speaker 1: it comes to when it comes to business, I feel
- 28:30Speaker 1: like he's wrapping his head around how business goes, how
- 28:32Speaker 1: how to market, how to brand something, how to put
- 28:35Speaker 1: pieces together, how to be a leader. Um, you know,
- 28:38Speaker 1: if he doesn't know how to cook, okay, I'm gonna
- 28:40Speaker 1: find a chef and I'm gonna run a cash register.
- 28:44Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, uh, you know, oversee things. So
- 28:47Speaker 1: I think he's growing in that area. But obviously women
- 28:49Speaker 1: is just I think it's always going to be a
- 28:52Speaker 1: challenge weakness for this young brother that I will hit
- 28:55Speaker 1: in the chest and say, come on, step up, step
- 28:59Speaker 1: your game up, get it right now. Early in that conversation,
- 29:02Speaker 1: you said that it was really important that this particular
- 29:05Speaker 1: show about Chicago got it right because other shows a
- 29:10Speaker 1: you know, black people complain that wasn't us. You know,
- 29:12Speaker 1: it's a poor portrayal. What do you feel the shot
- 29:16Speaker 1: which is on Showtime every Sunday night at n i
- 29:19Speaker 1: pm Eastern. What are you guys doing right on that show, Jacob?
- 29:24Speaker 1: That makes me excited, I can tell you. But again,
- 29:26Speaker 1: I'm a fan as an as an actor, as a
- 29:29Speaker 1: guy who's in the streets. People are responding to your character.
- 29:32Speaker 1: So well, what are you guys doing right about the
- 29:34Speaker 1: characterization of Chicago in this? I think just touching on
- 29:39Speaker 1: real issues, uh, you know, missing young women, um, gang activity. Um.
- 29:47Speaker 1: I think that you know, we're also just touching on
- 29:50Speaker 1: just real human beings, a real relatable situation that not
- 29:53Speaker 1: only just maybe going in Chicago, um, but like maybe
- 29:58Speaker 1: that go on the other hoods of the country, you
- 30:00Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think that it's finding
- 30:03Speaker 1: a way to relate to Chicago, but it's also finally
- 30:05Speaker 1: relate to relate to them the world, you know. And uh,
- 30:10Speaker 1: it's just the language, is right. I think the lineage
- 30:12Speaker 1: is so tapped into you know, the media here and
- 30:15Speaker 1: what's really going on in the streets. So right, Um,
- 30:18Speaker 1: you know that, and that's good to happen. A lot
- 30:20Speaker 1: of the writers are from Chicago. That's awesome. Well, I'm
- 30:22Speaker 1: telling you so, I want to take care. I want
- 30:24Speaker 1: to thank you for taking the time to come on
- 30:25Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. Let me tell you something, Jacob, I'm
- 30:27Speaker 1: a fan and any product when you're saw, when you
- 30:29Speaker 1: drop your song or you're doing anything out there, other
- 30:32Speaker 1: than the shot. Please come on the show. I will
- 30:34Speaker 1: promote it. I got a nice social media following over
- 30:37Speaker 1: a million newsletter over ninety thousand fan club members. I
- 30:41Speaker 1: just want to bring on your show, introduce you to
- 30:43Speaker 1: my fans and let them know how real you are.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And and keep winning, man, man, keep winning. Thank you.
- 30:48Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. No, thank you, Bye bye. We'll
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- 33:54Speaker 1: guest is one of my favorite people in Hollywood. He's
- 33:57Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur. Businesses like Everybody Digital, Fine Yard, Finance
- 34:04Speaker 1: only only Sun Productions, Get It Done Records, philanthropists with
- 34:08Speaker 1: Demo Nerds, a nonprofit after school and summer program created
- 34:11Speaker 1: to help young adults and children build self esteem and
- 34:15Speaker 1: confidence through the performing arts. I'm gonna try to squeeze
- 34:18Speaker 1: all this into him, but he's starting in the movie
- 34:21Speaker 1: on Netflix that comes out Netflix, the number one streamer
- 34:24Speaker 1: in the world called Project Power. It drops August fourteen,
- 34:29Speaker 1: that's Friday on Netflix. Here's a short synopsis on the movie.
- 34:32Speaker 1: And Next Soldier that's Jamie Fox. A team that's played
- 34:35Speaker 1: by Dominic Fishback and a cop collide in New Orleans
- 34:39Speaker 1: that they hunt for the source behind a dangerous new
- 34:41Speaker 1: pill that grants user temporary superpowers. Please, welcome to money
- 34:45Speaker 1: Making Conversation. My friend Alan mal Donado. Hey man, you know,
- 34:56Speaker 1: thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Come even though we
- 35:02Speaker 1: go back every time and even on my show in
- 35:04Speaker 1: a long time. You've putbody almost eighteen months since you've
- 35:07Speaker 1: been on the show. It does because I think I
- 35:12Speaker 1: think the last time brought your own it was a
- 35:14Speaker 1: premiere of Last O G I think that's the last time. Yeah,
- 35:18Speaker 1: that hasn't been almost two years. And then you did
- 35:21Speaker 1: that run on that that that that that Lebron James project.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, boy, that was funny that you had on
- 35:33Speaker 1: that for that tie. So now, but every time I
- 35:37Speaker 1: put you on these shows, but with your money making conversations,
- 35:40Speaker 1: I always got to talk about your serial entrepreneurship side
- 35:44Speaker 1: because that's so important because of the fact that you
- 35:47Speaker 1: do it. You do when you're breaking out. But you know, Netflix,
- 35:50Speaker 1: I gotta Netflix. We gotta talk about this movie because
- 35:53Speaker 1: guess what, it's a great movie. It's Jamie Foxx you
- 35:55Speaker 1: involved in. Talk about what the shot in New Orleans
- 35:58Speaker 1: or was that you know, was you know the kind
- 36:00Speaker 1: of shoot some places in Vancouver. But end we shot
- 36:03Speaker 1: that and we shot that a new and all the
- 36:06Speaker 1: shot that down. Man, we have to get the assets,
- 36:10Speaker 1: we have to get the You can't thank New Orleans, man,
- 36:13Speaker 1: not if you wanted that. You want not if you
- 36:15Speaker 1: wanted to be right, um, but yeah, now we shot
- 36:17Speaker 1: it down there. I play, uh the partner to Joseph
- 36:22Speaker 1: Gordon Levitt as we're police officers. Um, so I'm more
- 36:27Speaker 1: of the straight in, narrow by the book type of character,
- 36:31Speaker 1: which is vastly different from a lot of the other
- 36:34Speaker 1: characters earlier. You are a normal character, That's what you're
- 36:40Speaker 1: trying to say to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
- 36:42Speaker 1: straight up by the book police officer. You know, I'm
- 36:46Speaker 1: not with the with the Shenanigan, Sir, I'm treating by
- 36:50Speaker 1: the book. Um, that doesn't that doesn't say that he's
- 36:54Speaker 1: not funny, right, Uh, it's uh, it's definitely a contrast
- 36:58Speaker 1: to the kind of relious and uh independent thinking of
- 37:03Speaker 1: Joseph's character. So you talk about I'm excited about you're
- 37:08Speaker 1: excited to do the movie. I'm excited to the movie.
- 37:11Speaker 1: So um, it's one of those films that, even if
- 37:15Speaker 1: I wasn't in it after seeing the trailer, I'm locked
- 37:18Speaker 1: in like you would be locked in you you tell
- 37:21Speaker 1: the truth? Locked in man. So UM shout out to
- 37:28Speaker 1: the director's handing an area like they they they presented
- 37:32Speaker 1: a project and executed in such a way that it's um,
- 37:36Speaker 1: it's inspiring and hearing that story and them sharing to me.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Actually you know how they got from ideas to now
- 37:44Speaker 1: we're on set man, and this inspired by the story,
- 37:49Speaker 1: um of just going out and doing it. And just
- 37:53Speaker 1: to kind of segue back to the to the serial
- 37:55Speaker 1: entrepreneur um tone of the interview, like even in the
- 38:01Speaker 1: art it was a business on and how they took
- 38:04Speaker 1: the idea, developed it, put it together, package that invented
- 38:08Speaker 1: with to go sell this idea, this art form as
- 38:13Speaker 1: a product. So um, even and even as an artist,
- 38:17Speaker 1: you you must have a business sound they should in
- 38:19Speaker 1: order to see right right, we're talking to Alan maldon Maldonado. Uh,
- 38:25Speaker 1: he's just he's just one of the co stars in
- 38:27Speaker 1: the new Netflix. And Netflix is the number one streaming
- 38:30Speaker 1: platform in the world. When this movie comes out, it
- 38:33Speaker 1: will premiere in a hundred and nanny countries. You know,
- 38:36Speaker 1: this is what Netflix is or Netflix is changing the game,
- 38:39Speaker 1: and they changing the game, especially for African American film
- 38:43Speaker 1: projects because Juli a movie like this, just James Fox,
- 38:47Speaker 1: He's a global name. But generally movies like this premiere
- 38:50Speaker 1: only domestically. They opened domestically. They may get some minor
- 38:54Speaker 1: support depending on different markets, but there never be a worldwide,
- 38:58Speaker 1: that that that Netflix brings to the table and just
- 39:01Speaker 1: the impact has had. You know, Tyler Pere opened up
- 39:04Speaker 1: in January. You know, that movie was off the chain.
- 39:07Speaker 1: Then they came back with Eviction, Then they came back
- 39:10Speaker 1: with that. The Tiger King during the pandemic was off
- 39:13Speaker 1: the change, the Five Bloods Old Guard you just popped
- 39:18Speaker 1: off a few much two weeks ago. Now they're coming
- 39:22Speaker 1: back right now with the Power Project, the Project Powers,
- 39:26Speaker 1: the name Project Powers. And so how do you get
- 39:31Speaker 1: cast in the movie like this because first of all
- 39:33Speaker 1: knowing so you know, I know you gotta resume. But
- 39:36Speaker 1: I was, yeah, well this is you know, it's interesting.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Um is that I was actually in New York. I
- 39:44Speaker 1: think I was filming uh, season two of the Last
- 39:47Speaker 1: So at the time when they called me, they do
- 39:49Speaker 1: an artist, So I just did. I put an audition
- 39:51Speaker 1: on tape, um uh in New York and reality see,
- 39:59Speaker 1: I gotta lad because you this is a normal character.
- 40:01Speaker 1: So you put this own tape that so you know
- 40:06Speaker 1: the normal character, but don't tape. It was simple. We did,
- 40:12Speaker 1: and we knocked it out and there we are. You know, you,
- 40:18Speaker 1: like I said, the character is still he gonna have it,
- 40:21Speaker 1: so we're gonna of course it's me, so it's gonna
- 40:23Speaker 1: be it's gonna have some humor and some community time
- 40:26Speaker 1: into what it is. But his personality is again the
- 40:30Speaker 1: opposite of a cousin Bobby, who is just wild and reckless,
- 40:34Speaker 1: and he's more about the book, which is absolutely Again.
- 40:37Speaker 1: This movie premieres August fourteenth, which is Friday or Netflix
- 40:41Speaker 1: Project Power Stars but man, Jamie Fox Oscar winner, gotta
- 40:45Speaker 1: throw that title when you win it, Academy Award winner
- 40:48Speaker 1: and then my girl Dominique. You saw the movie the
- 40:51Speaker 1: series on HBO called Deuces. He plays a young prostitute
- 40:57Speaker 1: and that there was very were received on New us Age.
- 41:00Speaker 1: They did a great auticle Owner and it's just a
- 41:02Speaker 1: really great was sit in the heart of New Orleans.
- 41:06Speaker 1: You see the super Dome and so you know you're
- 41:08Speaker 1: in New Orleans. But the thing about it, if you're
- 41:10Speaker 1: a Superpower fan, and that's that's the take on this,
- 41:14Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we all know about the Marvel,
- 41:16Speaker 1: you know all know about the d C. But there
- 41:18Speaker 1: is a pill that will give you temporary superpowers mm hmmm,
- 41:25Speaker 1: and we don't know how is it, how is coming
- 41:29Speaker 1: into the City of New Orleans. That's the whole. I
- 41:32Speaker 1: will give you no more other than the fact that
- 41:35Speaker 1: you need to sit down and at twelve on one,
- 41:38Speaker 1: that Thursday night, twelve on one, that's when they started streaming.
- 41:42Speaker 1: So you can get out and tell everybody you saw
- 41:44Speaker 1: Project Power first, because it's a more everybody. Everybody get
- 41:49Speaker 1: their midnight parties together. Now. Now I'll be remissed because
- 41:53Speaker 1: I I don't mention to you, I don't call I
- 41:55Speaker 1: would proclaim you're a serial entrepreneur just because I like
- 41:59Speaker 1: saying that you are. You've you've every time I brought
- 42:02Speaker 1: you on the show. It's a new project and you
- 42:05Speaker 1: what drives you in that entrepreneurship space there? Alan Wow,
- 42:10Speaker 1: you know what it's It's crazy, it's ever evolving, and
- 42:14Speaker 1: I think every entrepreneur needs to know that. It's it's
- 42:16Speaker 1: ever evolving as its mature as a person, as a man,
- 42:20Speaker 1: and even financially. You know, you begin to think and
- 42:23Speaker 1: reanalyze on what you want. Um. But for me, it's uh,
- 42:29Speaker 1: you know, what drives me is a way of life.
- 42:33Speaker 1: It's a UM it's an understanding of being being poor
- 42:38Speaker 1: and knowing that I don't want to be that and
- 42:44Speaker 1: making every and then under understanding that my happiness isn't
- 42:49Speaker 1: built off materialistic things, but the way I can live
- 42:53Speaker 1: my life definitely can reflect that by eating healthier, um,
- 42:58Speaker 1: having more time to rest, being able to have certain
- 43:02Speaker 1: amenities to make life a little better. So for me,
- 43:05Speaker 1: like it used to be a number, it used to
- 43:09Speaker 1: be a dollar amount, um, where now it's more of uh,
- 43:14Speaker 1: it's again of for pure happiness in way of life. UM.
- 43:18Speaker 1: So according to how I want to live, that's the
- 43:22Speaker 1: amount of money I need to make in order to
- 43:24Speaker 1: do that. And I think that's what you think you
- 43:26Speaker 1: mentioned in in your intro as far as uh, people
- 43:31Speaker 1: measuring their own success. And I've gotten to a point
- 43:34Speaker 1: where I've been able to identify where I measure my success,
- 43:38Speaker 1: and my success is being happy. And every business that
- 43:41Speaker 1: I do and everything that I work on is usually
- 43:45Speaker 1: coming from a place of love, and I've just figured
- 43:47Speaker 1: out a way to make money from it. You say that,
- 43:50Speaker 1: because that's that's my philosophy. I always told people, you know,
- 43:54Speaker 1: a simple goals, and some people they make their goals
- 43:57Speaker 1: too much. Like one of my those was like I
- 44:00Speaker 1: didn't want to shop with coupons food, you know, coupons,
- 44:03Speaker 1: you know, like that was just a goal. Now, if
- 44:06Speaker 1: I see a good coupon, I use it, But that
- 44:08Speaker 1: was just a goal that I have. Then another goal
- 44:11Speaker 1: was when I go in the store, if I wanted
- 44:13Speaker 1: to buy that, I would buy it. I would if
- 44:15Speaker 1: I touched it, I bought it. There was another up,
- 44:18Speaker 1: there was another fund that wasn't tied to I gotta
- 44:21Speaker 1: make a hundred thousand dollars, I gotta make a million dollars.
- 44:23Speaker 1: It was like a lifestyle change. And then when I
- 44:27Speaker 1: went shopping, if I wanted two pair of shoes and
- 44:29Speaker 1: I was putting myself in a position to buy two
- 44:31Speaker 1: pair of shoes, then I bought those two pair of shoes.
- 44:34Speaker 1: And that really is how this whole thing, That's what
- 44:37Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your philosophy and I my philosophy alignes because
- 44:41Speaker 1: of the fact that you can you can you can
- 44:43Speaker 1: overreach by saying I need to make a million dollars
- 44:46Speaker 1: when you could probably make a half million dollars and
- 44:48Speaker 1: be very happy, and reaches exactly exactly, exactly exactly. And
- 44:55Speaker 1: I think that's what people get lost, is chasing a
- 44:58Speaker 1: dollar amount rather than their personal happiness and were where
- 45:03Speaker 1: because what most people don't know. Managing managing a million dollars,
- 45:07Speaker 1: of managing thirty million dollars and managing three hund million
- 45:10Speaker 1: dollars a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
- 45:15Speaker 1: And you know, be careful what you wish for is
- 45:18Speaker 1: one of those type of things, right, be careful what
- 45:20Speaker 1: you wish for you. Okay, you said you want to
- 45:23Speaker 1: be a bigger there, but do you understand what it
- 45:25Speaker 1: takes in the pressure and the type of around the
- 45:31Speaker 1: clock monitoring you have to do to make sure you
- 45:34Speaker 1: can see to maintain that bigion dollars like like, So
- 45:38Speaker 1: it should never be about an amount where where if
- 45:41Speaker 1: it's built by love and you you're gonna do that consistent,
- 45:46Speaker 1: consistently and abundantly, and you're gonna want to work nine
- 45:50Speaker 1: times harder than it than anything else you were doing
- 45:53Speaker 1: just for a monetary success. So the level of success
- 45:57Speaker 1: and you're gonna just naturally a sin You're gonna now
- 46:00Speaker 1: actually reach your goals. You're gonna nationally probably surpassed your goals.
- 46:04Speaker 1: But the real success isn't the money, it's the happiness
- 46:08Speaker 1: that comes with being able to live that lifestyle. Okay,
- 46:12Speaker 1: whether what happened is is also starring in another movie.
- 46:17Speaker 1: That's That's Happiness to my Friend, upcoming wrestling drama on Stars.
- 46:22Speaker 1: You know, tell that's the television show. Yeah, it's a
- 46:26Speaker 1: television show. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's a series. Man again
- 46:32Speaker 1: another character that that isn't Now he's a little while
- 46:40Speaker 1: You're gonna do a movie about wrestling and it's not autlantist,
- 46:43Speaker 1: it's not it's not on Yeah. Yeah, I mean his
- 46:47Speaker 1: neighbors rooster so uh, I couln't. I couldn't even. I
- 46:52Speaker 1: couldn't even finish that ship so serious is called heels
- 46:57Speaker 1: h e l h e e l s Upcoming drama
- 47:00Speaker 1: own Stars. Tell us about that bag because you know
- 47:03Speaker 1: when you come, because I don't know when I'm gonna
- 47:05Speaker 1: get you back out. You're so busy, I'm gonna it
- 47:08Speaker 1: might be another two years before I get you on
- 47:11Speaker 1: the show. Muscles. I put on towns of muscles for
- 47:15Speaker 1: this show. You what I'm saying, Like, I really transformed
- 47:18Speaker 1: my body for this for this road. Um, he's a
- 47:21Speaker 1: high Instagram. I haven't seen your Instagram with your bank
- 47:25Speaker 1: going up. We've been going up, yes, showing that sixth pack. Listen,
- 47:32Speaker 1: man be going hard for this show, man, Uh, this
- 47:36Speaker 1: excited for a project to work on in a long time,
- 47:39Speaker 1: just to kind of lock in and get into the character. Um.
- 47:42Speaker 1: And then also it's about this independent wrestling family who
- 47:47Speaker 1: has uh their wrestling federation and the territory where a
- 47:51Speaker 1: rival federation is looking to uh basically bring them, bring
- 47:55Speaker 1: them to their miises and and and in there wrestling. Yeah,
- 48:00Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's gonna be. I can't even
- 48:04Speaker 1: explain how dope um just the project is as far
- 48:09Speaker 1: as the direction of story, just the division they have
- 48:13Speaker 1: for it. Man, I'm eager. I'm just as eager as
- 48:17Speaker 1: I was and I did profic power as I am
- 48:20Speaker 1: for this one. Well, you know the thing about it
- 48:22Speaker 1: Netflix as a series called Glow Gorgeous Ladies, of which
- 48:27Speaker 1: I love. The first two seeds have been brilliant. And
- 48:30Speaker 1: so I've been an elementary school I was a fan
- 48:33Speaker 1: of wrestling. My dad used to take me and I
- 48:35Speaker 1: was just watching, you know, uh watch these rats. And
- 48:39Speaker 1: so I've been a fan forever. When I was keeping,
- 48:42Speaker 1: I could just go in the elementary school and go
- 48:44Speaker 1: see these see you involved in the project like that,
- 48:47Speaker 1: I know that I'm a big fan of all knowing
- 48:49Speaker 1: that it's is natural and it allows you. Here's the
- 48:53Speaker 1: you know, we joke about you being that all these
- 48:55Speaker 1: outlandes characters, but man, you know that's part of your
- 48:58Speaker 1: skill set. Somebody got a plant and somebody gotta play
- 49:00Speaker 1: them well, and you're doing fantastic job and doing it.
- 49:03Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to Emmy slap
- 49:06Speaker 1: next to your name when you're doing them. That's all
- 49:07Speaker 1: that's come on, man, it's happening. It's happening. Man, it's happening. Man,
- 49:11Speaker 1: it's we didn't route. We didn't route to that, Emmy,
- 49:14Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um damn, man, the
- 49:17Speaker 1: Stars is coming out. We begin shooting um next month.
- 49:20Speaker 1: So okay, so this is gonna be a pandemic shoot. Yeah,
- 49:27Speaker 1: it's been we we we were set to begin production.
- 49:30Speaker 1: We haven't shot at anything. It's gonna be This is
- 49:33Speaker 1: gonna be interesting and ain't another for me. It's just
- 49:36Speaker 1: another challenge to the already challenge. They're gonna try to
- 49:40Speaker 1: do what you like. You know, like like like Tyler
- 49:43Speaker 1: Perry has set up the ultimate bubble on his right right,
- 49:47Speaker 1: We'll not not to that extreme. Um, but it will
- 49:51Speaker 1: definitely be a bubble where we'll be monitored and we'll
- 49:54Speaker 1: have to you know, stay safe. We gotta stay safe
- 49:58Speaker 1: and just be responsible for each other, you know, not
- 50:01Speaker 1: to you know, put ourselves in harm's way to ultimately,
- 50:06Speaker 1: you know, get someone sick on set and stop production. So, um,
- 50:11Speaker 1: they're doing doing a fantastic job with everything, with testing
- 50:14Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I definitely feel safe. Yeah,
- 50:19Speaker 1: Like you know, at the end of the day, I
- 50:20Speaker 1: feel totally safe. You know. I wanted to talk about
- 50:22Speaker 1: before we lead your nonprofit. Every time we come on
- 50:26Speaker 1: the show, I always bring it up because that's part
- 50:28Speaker 1: of you, that's part of your d n A. I
- 50:31Speaker 1: know that the pandemic, I'm pretty sure it has not
- 50:35Speaker 1: worked out like it normally works out every year profit,
- 50:39Speaker 1: and that's what's the future we're gonna do. It's been
- 50:42Speaker 1: um yeah, it's it's I've been kind of since, you know,
- 50:45Speaker 1: with the pandemic and you know, the groups and crowds
- 50:47Speaker 1: or you know, basically eliminated. At this point, Um, I
- 50:52Speaker 1: begin to start something a little different. Um. Over the
- 50:55Speaker 1: past two years, I fell in love with running and
- 50:59Speaker 1: I'm I'm a maritime I'm a five time marathon runner. Um.
- 51:04Speaker 1: I ran four in five months before, right before the
- 51:08Speaker 1: pandemic hit, and I used running as a form of
- 51:12Speaker 1: therapy as I was battling through you know, uh, emotion,
- 51:17Speaker 1: slow depression, all these different things that you can deal
- 51:20Speaker 1: with as a as a young man, you know, the
- 51:22Speaker 1: growing as a growing man, and running was my therapy.
- 51:26Speaker 1: And what I've created was a running crew called Knees
- 51:29Speaker 1: Out Coalition. I'm sure you see it on the on
- 51:31Speaker 1: the ground with me running all the time, but but
- 51:34Speaker 1: then just running. It's about running for mental stability. Where
- 51:38Speaker 1: I've come up with this different philosophies and and a
- 51:42Speaker 1: different approach to running that um um. We're ready to
- 51:46Speaker 1: gonna be launching pretty soon, I believe in the beginning
- 51:49Speaker 1: of September. But it needs our coalition dot com you
- 51:53Speaker 1: know on the website where we're gonna be delivering again
- 51:57Speaker 1: philosophies to running. We're gonna have music set to help
- 52:02Speaker 1: you meditate while you run. Um Uh. They will be merged.
- 52:07Speaker 1: There will be the different things we're gonna be doing.
- 52:09Speaker 1: The community that's a secret runs uh, just because we're
- 52:13Speaker 1: able to run together even though we don't have to
- 52:15Speaker 1: be in a group. You know, we tag each other,
- 52:18Speaker 1: we support each other, We um, you know, we inspire
- 52:23Speaker 1: each other to get up every day. We have monthly
- 52:25Speaker 1: challenges like we're doing them a for our elite runners,
- 52:29Speaker 1: they're doing seventy five this month, and then for our
- 52:33Speaker 1: beginning runners, they're doing thirty miles this month. And then
- 52:37Speaker 1: we'll give out like weekly kind of guidelines you can
- 52:40Speaker 1: run by. It's just it's just it's just a running
- 52:42Speaker 1: community that I feel. Again, my giving back is helping
- 52:47Speaker 1: people deal with their mental anguish and anxiety. With the
- 52:52Speaker 1: PANTAM has been a depression and anger has been a
- 52:56Speaker 1: major problem. And then the fact that you you know,
- 53:00Speaker 1: you know you're African American and Puerto Rican descend it.
- 53:02Speaker 1: And then you know how that has affected the coordinateen
- 53:05Speaker 1: when I said that that has effectively incorporated nteen has
- 53:08Speaker 1: affected the community. What is your what is your take
- 53:11Speaker 1: on and and and you know, seeing the world having
- 53:16Speaker 1: has changed, you know the Floyd George Floyd. We wrap up. Yeah, man,
- 53:22Speaker 1: it's it's um. It's fascinating to say, to say the least. Man,
- 53:26Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years old, so I can I can
- 53:30Speaker 1: honestly say I've seen the world change twice. You know, um,
- 53:35Speaker 1: where the culture, the environment, the way we look at things,
- 53:38Speaker 1: where we see things, where society has made uh, several
- 53:41Speaker 1: shifts there all my time on this on this planet,
- 53:44Speaker 1: and this one is this is an interesting one as
- 53:47Speaker 1: far as the inability to being being to be in
- 53:52Speaker 1: large groups and just kind of share that any energy
- 53:55Speaker 1: uh with each other as a as a as a
- 53:58Speaker 1: human race, like being in the stadium and cheering. Is
- 54:03Speaker 1: is more than just watching watching these football players play.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Um um. It's a It's an emotional outlet that we
- 54:15Speaker 1: all miss right now. And that's what's what's causing a
- 54:18Speaker 1: lot of distress and a lot of the um, you know,
- 54:22Speaker 1: anger and violence. That's that's happening right now. What grows
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- 54:29Speaker 1: in the forest, Our imagination, our sense of wonder and
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- 55:38Speaker 1: bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper bag wasn't closed.
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- 56:26Speaker 1: really amazing, right, my guests, he's uh, you've seen him
- 56:29Speaker 1: on Blackish The Last O g Uh. He's starting a
- 56:33Speaker 1: new Netflix movie that drops August fourteen called Project Power.
- 56:39Speaker 1: That's off the Change sci fi where if you get
- 56:43Speaker 1: they are infiltrating. They're dropping drugs into the city of
- 56:46Speaker 1: New Orleans and it gives people who buy it a
- 56:49Speaker 1: temporary power surge, ye superpower surge. I want to thank
- 56:55Speaker 1: you for coming on my show. You know I miss you, man,
- 56:57Speaker 1: I just you know I miss you. It's all I
- 57:01Speaker 1: want you to feel bad when don't say that too.
- 57:03Speaker 1: I want you to feel bad, okay, because you think.
- 57:06Speaker 1: But listen, I know I've been hopping over low, I've
- 57:10Speaker 1: been working, I've been focused. I have to I have
- 57:13Speaker 1: to get away for a little bit, brother, and I
- 57:19Speaker 1: understand it's not gonna be another and the other two years.
- 57:25Speaker 1: That's what you want. That's what you wanted. You want
- 57:26Speaker 1: that on the record. That's that's don't die dough and
- 57:32Speaker 1: stated on Money Making Conversation it will not be another
- 57:36Speaker 1: two years because money make conversation believe and mouth do
- 57:41Speaker 1: not dope. Hey man, be safe brother, and y'all watch
- 57:45Speaker 1: you this Friday. Brother, Love you brother all right now man,
- 57:50Speaker 1: My next guest is a motivational speaker Extraordinary, a former
- 57:54Speaker 1: NFL player and founder of the nonprofit We Have Time.
- 57:58Speaker 1: He's a large social media following that inspires all ages
- 58:01Speaker 1: with videos about relationships, personal success, life and faith. Straight
- 58:05Speaker 1: Up This is his first book for young adults. This
- 58:08Speaker 1: helpful book god's young adults to establish healthy relationships, chase
- 58:12Speaker 1: after their dream and lived their very best lives. His
- 58:16Speaker 1: book Straight Up can be ardent in pre release. It
- 58:18Speaker 1: comes out officially August four, but you can't get it all.
- 58:21Speaker 1: You can't preorder it right now. Let's preorder everybody, because
- 58:24Speaker 1: we want to make this book number one on New
- 58:26Speaker 1: York Times best Seller. Please work on the Money Making Conversation.
- 58:29Speaker 1: Mr motivator himself. Trent Shelter, how are you doing, brother,
- 58:34Speaker 1: appreciate you're having me sharing your platform with me truly.
- 58:36Speaker 1: Other Well, I well, first of all, you know the
- 58:40Speaker 1: fact that your Southern boy like me. I'm from Houston, Texas,
- 58:43Speaker 1: so I was born and raise in the big state
- 58:44Speaker 1: of Texas and have traveled all over this country. And uh,
- 58:49Speaker 1: you said you're Louisiana, Arkansas with the school at Baylor
- 58:52Speaker 1: type fellow. Yes, sir, Yeah, I'm definitely uh South stating
- 58:58Speaker 1: the South from the South, still live here, so I'm
- 59:01Speaker 1: gonna Southern board for sure. Absolutely. Let's just talk about uh,
- 59:05Speaker 1: but you your book. Let's talk about your personality. Let's
- 59:09Speaker 1: talk about your athleticism. You know, you played wide receiver
- 59:12Speaker 1: at the Bailor University. This is a question I wanted
- 59:14Speaker 1: to ask up front. Would you say that the early
- 59:16Speaker 1: part of your life was driven by your ability to
- 59:18Speaker 1: showcase your physical talent? Would you say that absolutely? Yeah.
- 59:22Speaker 1: I mean ever since I was bored, I had two
- 59:25Speaker 1: older brothers and so I was always trying to keep
- 59:27Speaker 1: up with them. So my my even my identity, and
- 59:30Speaker 1: my my worst everything was performance face. You know, I
- 59:32Speaker 1: always wanted to be the best athlete I could be,
- 59:35Speaker 1: whether it's best baseball, basketball, football, track. So now that's
- 59:39Speaker 1: being said. Now along the way, other people see things
- 59:43Speaker 1: in you besides that physical talent, and they see you
- 59:46Speaker 1: obviously you're a great speaker, they know you have a
- 59:49Speaker 1: u the people. You have a magnetic personality and people
- 59:53Speaker 1: see that. And now I'm sure people told you that
- 59:56Speaker 1: along the way, But of course you were following that
- 59:58Speaker 1: physical gift. Can you can you talk about the people
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: who were trying to tell you about the skill set
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: that you were not following at the time that they
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: felt had value in your life too deep with that question. No,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right, and it's a great question because
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, my whole entire life, Um there
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: were seeds planet uh as my mom would say, So
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: calling is placed on my life, you know, throughout my
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: whole entire life to be you know what I do now.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: But by me even today, I'm an introverted person. So
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: me hearing that, it was like I was deaf to
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: it because I was so focused on what I wanted
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: to do. So if you weren't bringing anything to my
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: life about sports man, like I wasn't trying to listen
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: to it. And often times what we do is we're
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: so focused on what we want to do we become
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: blind to what we were created to do. So, yeah,
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: it was tough, I know, because you know, I look
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: at my life. I was I was trying to share
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: my life honestly with my listeners. And sometimes my view
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: is that you know, when you look back, you know
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: you have to look back. I would tell people that
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: the resume that you have right now, that job resume
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: may not be your dream, may not be your passion.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: It's just something you do to get a paycheck. And
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: I felt that's what was happening in the NFL. That
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: was something you was doing to get a paycheck. And
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: then one day, sitting in that office of the Washington Redskin,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: you realize, you know something, this is a check that's
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: not gonna pay off long term for me. But you
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: knew that anyway because of an athlete, that's a short
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: window anyway, But knowing that you still pursued that that
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: was your your number one gift at the time. But
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: then in that room with the when it would announced
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: they were gonna let you go, a realization hit. You
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: tell us about that Yeah, it was just you know,
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: I mean I went through that process probably like Nonnerton times.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: So when it got to that place I had already
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: started working on. I felt, well, what I do now,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: which is rehab something? And that vision was already placed
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: in my life, maybe a few months before. How was
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: that vision? How was that vision place? It was my
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: rock bottom, to be honest with you, It was me sitting,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: you know, I just got cut from the Seahawks, and
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: it was me in my in my room at my
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: parents house, and I was just looking around, and my
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: rock bottom was like, man, like what I'm gonna do
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: in my life? And at that moment, I just said,
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: it's rehab time. And so for me, rehab time and
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: for myself, right and then putting strength into a weakness mind,
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: body and so and so I took responsibility to say, okay,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: let me educate myself because I wasn't reading books. Okay,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: let me further my health, let me furm my further
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: my spirituality. And when I went on this journey, it
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: just I just saw the connection. I was like, man,
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: this something feels right about this. And as I started
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: continuing that journey, you know, other people started to see
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: my change started asking questions. But that was two thousand
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: and nine, two thousand nine, So I got cut with
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: the Ridskins probably that fall, and so when they said that,
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: I was hurt, but it was something in me. It
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: was like, hey, like there's something more for your life.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: But still even right there you said you were hurt.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: Were you heard or were you more concerned with other
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: people thought that you not? You're being cut? That's that's
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: definitely both because that was my significance. So in my mind,
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: it was like because my whole entire life was like, oh,
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: this is my friend training to plays for bailor or
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: even high school. So my whole value was in that sport.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: And so I was hurting that way because I'm like, Okay,
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: what are people gonna think? And I knew I would
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: lose some people in my life that I was hurt. Also,
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: it's like this is my whole identity, like since I
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: was five years old, Like what else am I gonna do?
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: I never worked in und five, I had no knowledge
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: of any of that, so like what I'm I gonna do?
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: So I was kind of fearful of like my life
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: is over because if this is the pinnacle of my life.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: There's nothing more to my life, you know. So it
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: was hard. Well, you're the thing about now your son
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: was born in what year? When when was your son born?
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Two thousand eight? Two thousand eight? So your son is
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: born two thousand and eight, which is already Let you
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: know that there's a responsibility now in your life. You
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: know when you're when you're out there sold and making
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: decisions by yourself or uh. But when you bring a
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: child into the world. I would tell people a child
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: and asked to come into this world. You brought that
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: child into the world, So a certain level of responsibility.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: So now that's two thousand nine. You still you got
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: cut by the Seahawks. They got about to be cut
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: by the watching Redskins. You know the speech, you've heard it,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: you know when you know the in game. But now
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: it has to be a different journey. Now there has
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: to be a different story to be told about your life.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: When did you start remembering all those other great moments
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: of you can do this, your your your future is
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: not being a football player an athlete. You can be great.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: When did when did when did that information started running
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: back into your life? It started with me stepping on
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: stages speaking yes, even though I wasn't ready to speak,
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: even though it's my biggest spirits started with me, uh,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: stepping on stage is getting invited to the y m
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: c A Boys and Girls clubs or Turkey events. And
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: in those moments it made just the impact that I
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: saw when I looked down in the audience and how
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: they were just gravitating to what I was saying. It
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: was like, man like, Okay, everything that people were telling
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: me in my past, it could be true, right, And
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: so that possibility built confidence in my life, even in
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: my biggest fear, because you know, public speaking was something
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: that I was truly afraid of. Well we always right,
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: I've been blessed that you know, my I was this
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: stand up comic. I was stand up comedian and so
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: so naturally there's a wall for me to speak that
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: there's uh people just watch I should work for IBM.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: So when I would speak, they would look at this
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: kind so comfortable, well with this stand up comedy. So
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: at night we didn't know that, so I I that
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: that public speaking wall was was shattered with me and
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: so but getting out there being honest, though there's a
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: difference in speaking publicly Trent and then being honest because
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: because because you know, you can get a prepared speech,
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: because see that a lot of time people do it
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: call a press conference and and they're supposed to be
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: speaking for their heart by reading everything all the piece
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: of paper and so and I was always always didn't
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: make sense to me, Okay, why if you're speaking for
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: your hard just speak. And now now you started speaking publicly,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: when did the honestly part of the conversation, Because that's
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: gonna dry us into this book, because this book is
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: very honest. It talks about failures, it talks about why
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: these failures have to be acknowledged on it for you
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: to move forward. When did you start you started speaking
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: at these wives, But what point did you say, you
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: know something. I gotta tell them relatable stories. I gotta
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: tell them why it's important that you hear what I
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: got to say. Yeah, for sure, it was early on
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: to be real with you because and the reason being
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: is because one of my very first major ones speaking engagements,
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: I prepared to hold speech. I was liked and wrote
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: it all out and they were like kind of looked
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: at I got whatever stage right I forgot and it
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: was just like Okay, let me just go from my heart.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: And I realized, like, for one, I always say, when
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: you're real, you're relatable. Right, It's a connection piece with
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: the audience because they feel like they can relate to you.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: But it also it gave me freedom, right. I feel
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: like like even today, like when I tried to prepare
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: a speech, I'm like, why am I wasting my time?
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: Because I never go off of the notes that I
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: have from my speech, and so it gives me a
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: sense of freedom. And uh so yeah, I'm just I've
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: always kind of been like that since the start of
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: like just telling you know, real rock on the stories
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: from the heart about my life. Well, I'm talking to
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: Mr Motivator himself, That's what I called I called you know,
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: he got a lot of great nicknames out there, but
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him Mr Motivator Trent Shelton. He has
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: a new book that you can buy right now called
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: straight Up. Uh. It comes out and is released officially
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: August fourth. This book is a you know, is for
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: young adults, and I want to talk about that why
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: it's important that when you see younger blow too, you're
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: talking about enneals. Are you talking about high schoolers. Who
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: are we talking about when you say young adults, Trent, Yeah,
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: I think anywhere from the age of it could be
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: eight and twenty four, you know what I mean. I
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: think this book is and I will say this too,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: I've had adults already read it, and you know, it's
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: a little bit language for kids, but I have adults
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: read it and taking it like they learned from it too.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: But I think anywhere from the ages of where you
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: can read all the way to you know, early twenties
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: for sure. Well, you know, let's let's let's dive into
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: the book. The book. We're talking about this straight up.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: And I went, I'm gonna start in the back because
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: it was, you know, I read a book. I kind
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: of like, well, I want to start. Everybody that always
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: starts at the beginning, you know, it is that my
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: post start in the middle. But it was it was
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: something that really affected me. I think that we needed
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: to jump out. For me, was like, in chapter twelve,
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: that's just straight up about making an impact. Okay, now,
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: what was the significance before we even get into my
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: what exactly I want from chapter twelve? What was the
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: significance of the I guess you can say title for
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: each chapter. Yeah, So I just kind of dug down
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: in my life. I asked my son some questions kids
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: that are coached and just uh, you know, took that
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: feedback and I was like, Okay, this is what they
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: need to hear, you know. So I basically took the
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: book fifty two lessons um that I would want either
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: to tell my former self because I get that question
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: like what would you tell the younger you, It would
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: be these fifty two things. And so that was the
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: inspiration behind it. Cool. Now, in that chapter twelve, you know,
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: it says it says responsibility that means realizing your affect
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: other people. See. That was important to me when I'm
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: reading your book. It goes back to the birth of
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: your son two thousand and eight. It goes back to
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: two thousand nine when you're sitting in the in the
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: in the office of the team Washington red Skins, and
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: it was letting you know that there was no space
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: for you on the team, that if a spot opens up,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: you know you could you wouldn't let you know. You said,
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: don't worry, you don't. I've heard this speech, polm, don't don't, don't,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: don't play kate me like that. Okay, don't play kate
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: me like that. If it was a space open eyes,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting in your office, Okay, I wouldn't
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: be sitting there. Okay. So the responsibility means realizing you
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: affect other people. I wanted to start our interview with that, David,
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: because that's what a lot of people I want. I
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: won't use the word selfish, but we get so focused
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: on ourselves that we got responsible to other people that
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: believe in us. And that could be children, that could
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: be your wife, that could be your employees, that could
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: be people in stind you, that could be your your
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: business partners. And that statement I thought was really powerful
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: and I just wanted you to comment on that, and
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: I also provide my feedback because a lot of people
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: don't realize that responsibility means realize that you affect other people.
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: To me, was one of the most powerful lines in
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: your book. And thank you. I appreciate that you know
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: one of my sayings for real time, it all starts
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: with you, because I have to look within myself and say, okay,
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: you know, how is my life going to affect you? Know,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: others around and often say to tell my kids this
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: and myself. Always tell yourself that you are influence. I
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: always say I am influenced every single day. And my
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: question that I asked myself at the end of the
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: day is how did I influence the environment around me?
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: You know, whether it be going to a meeting, whether
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: it be're going with my team, whether it be going
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: to my family or the kids that I coach, How
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: did I inspire them through my life? I can inspire
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: in a negative way, a neutral way, or a positive way.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: And so I'm always trying to make sure that when
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: someone gets around me, whether that's through you know, telling
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: stories about my past and this, are giving them insights
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: on different things. When someone gets around me, I want
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: them to be better because they came and encounter with me.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: And so I think when you understand that you have influence,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: even if you're walking to the supermarket there, you know,
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: you can be having a bad day and the attitude
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: you might somebody might feel that energy and look at
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: you be like, oh, like dang, you know, maybe my
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: day is now even worse. So you can be the
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: person who says, you know what, smiles the person you
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: don't never never know that they just might need that.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: So I just always realized that with my life that
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to make an environment better every
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: single day, and so I try to live by that
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: and it's really important. And you know I I I'm
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: just talking about the book. I'm talking to Trent Shelton.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: The book is called Straight Up Right Now. You can
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: pre order it. Uh. It comes out officially August fourth.
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: My goal is to have this book number one. That's
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: what I won't tell you, Trent. Number one. I had
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: three of them with Steve Harvey. We went three straight
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: number one, I mean real number one, not just best seller.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: She best selling number one. Two different conversations. I want
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: you because this book has much value in it that
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: uh it it struck me. And that's what I'm saying
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: is that you know eight to eighty that they say
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: black crippler crazies, they say what I was growing up.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Everybody can get value out of this book, especially if
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: you're trying to look in your life and try to
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: jump start it, because a lot of people need to
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: jump start their lives because they're doing that. I always
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: talking about because you talk about relationships and you're hitting
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: so many areas. I think that are important. Let's talk
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: about it. Why did you want to speak about relationships?
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: Because relationships are everything you know, as human beings. You know,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: our connections with you know, whether it's a intimate relationship,
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a business relationship, whether it's a friendship.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Relationships are important. You know, you talk to people and
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: usually if something is going wrong in their life, it'sus
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: really tied to a relationship. So I think it's just
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: important that we build strong relationships, we cultivate, you know,
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: strong relationships in our lives, so it helps us be better.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: So yeah, I think relationships are everything. Cool. Uh And
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: I don't know if something of the book that did
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: you want some things to be humorous in the book,
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: because some of them I just have to laugh at
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: loud at you, you know, like for instance, I'll changing
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: some man the front of the front of the book.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: When you was in that mud race, Man, I was
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: laughing so loud at you, And what took you so long? Yeah?
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really thought I was gonna
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: die that day. Like I was like, I made my
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: piece for god man to do it, not to me.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: I was like, you work here are you supposed to
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: being came and you you're supposed to let us know
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: what you stand in life. That's why. That's why I
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: took from that line. That's why because so many people
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: are out there living a life and and and they're
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: they're not as saying they need help. They's not saying
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: they need change. Because when you're about to make change,
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: you have to admit a failure. You have to admit
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: a failure to have changed in your life. See how
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: so many people want to admit don't want to admit that.
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: And that's why that's why this book is so important,
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: because this is a great moment. And I remember when
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: I was when I first went on tour as a
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: stand up comedian. I can't swim, okay, tramp And I
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: went out there and and then it was it was
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: a major decision I had to make on the shore
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: because my friends said, hey, man, you know, if you
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: want to use the jet ski, just going out there
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: just right there to you. And then and then and
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: I had made a major decision in my mind, Okay,
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: do I act like I know how to swim and
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: get on this jet ski or do I put on
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: a life jacket. I made the decision. That's why you
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: still hear me talking today to put on this life
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: jacket because I went out there and I fell off
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: that jet ski, and that jet ski went into a circle,
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: and if I would not have had that jacket on,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: I would have drowned. I would have officially drowned that day.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying right there, is that we
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: have to admit what we can't do to be able
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: to accomplished what we can do. That's a resounding theme
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: in this book. Correct absolutely absolutely unpresent. And with that
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: being say right there, now let's talk about let's walk
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: through this whole bud race. You know, you know you'd
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: already embarrassed yourself in the previous mother race, So use
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: the term youth the athlete. You've probably still cut up, start,
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: probably still had that had that stomach looking right, So
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: walk through the steps of that. You know, when you
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: realize you died in that cold water, You died in
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: that cold water, and that body, and that body said,
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: you know something, I'm gonna start talking now, I'm gonna
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: take over this race and let you know how I
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: feel about what you've been doing to me. You're in
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: the water now, you're just like Rishan. But Rahan had
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: a life jacket. Okay that, but that jet ski was
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: circling me. I could just see it circlar But I
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: had a life jacket and I was thinking, God that
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: you told me to put on his life jacket. You
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: didn't let me do nothing stupid. But unlike that, you're
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: dived in this cold water. You don't have a life jacket.
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: Walkers through the steps, Trent whatever. I dropped into the
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: water and like, I'm adausted, right, I don't know why
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: they have at the end anyway, but I dropped into
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: the water the trail te See your version of exhausted
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: exhaust my version of do different things. So you are
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: you are a superior athlete. You gotta say that because
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: at the time you were leading, right, yep, I was you.
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: So you're superior athlete that you're leading the race. You're
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: on top of the wall. All you have to do
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: is zip line, drop into this water and you swim
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: and you declared the victor. And you know it's the
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: mud race. And everybody know about these mud races. See
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: is that really not too many black people? Later black
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: people participate in these mud races. Okay, so here you
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: are you know you're black man leading the mud race
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: in Texas, not walking through the steps, not brother. Yes, uh,
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: and you're very it's funny, so I say, it makes
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: it even more true. So I jumped into the dropped
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: into the water, and I can swimm something okay, cool,
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: you know, not that bad with him, but I kiss
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: the full body cramps like the water is freezing, and
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: so immediately like i know that I'm in trouble, but
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm not about to sit here and
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: call out for help. I'm gonna push through. So I'm
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: trying to swim and I just can't. And so the
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: funny thing about it, there's a guy that drops in
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: behind me, and I'm like I'm asking him for help,
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: like help, and he kind of looks at me like
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: he stops and me keep swimming. So I'm like, damn,
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: that's messed up, you know. I guess it's like a
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: ruin my thumb. You know. At that point, I'm like, okay,
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: I'm panicking. So now now my helps are getting louder,
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: and then you know, all the embarrassment is going out
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: the window because I feel like I'm about to die.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm really fighting my doggy paddle in
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: the water, fighting to stay above. Make a long story short,
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: I end up like pretty much nobody. So there's people
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: that work there, right, so I'm like, okay, somebody's gonna
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: jump in. These people were way for somebody else to
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: do it, so they were just literally they were trained
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: to jump in and and help. Nobody help. This guy
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: throws a bully out there, which is probably you know,
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: ten yards away from me, and I can't even move
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: a yard, and like that doesn't help. So I just
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: made my peace. For God. I'm like, okay, this is it.
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: This time must go out. It was like it's the
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: wrong way to go out, Like at a at a
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: month race driving in a little lake, and two as
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: I'm about to go down, I see a guy finally
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: jump in, and so that like gave me the strength
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: and like, okay, just kick and push fight all you can.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: Like I exhausted everything. Man, not to get too much
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: t m I, but like my whole body was depleted.
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: And I push up and then the guy finally comes
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: out there. He saves me. He brings me to the side.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: He's mad, I mean, like he's he had his boots
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: and he was he wasn't the one supposed to jump in,
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: so he's mad and he's like, if you can't swim,
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: why did you come out here? And I was like,
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: but I can't swim. I was like, what took you
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: so long? Like and I was I was angry. Make
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: a long story short. They take us to the tent
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: and in the tentance it's two people in the tent
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: and both of us was black. I was like, I
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: was like God, I was like this, this would be
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: the perfect stereotype of this. Make a look. After after
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: they got to the set, I said, you know what,
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: I'm getting my medal. I was like, I just so
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: I went over there, I grabbed my metal, even tho
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: I didn't finish, I'm getting my medal. So that just
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: taking a valuable lesson man to ask for help, you know,
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: and not be embarrassed to do it, because I probably
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: have saved myself a lot more if I were really
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: called out for help earlier. Well, well that's why this
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: book is about lessons. And I think the biggest thing
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: I like one of the it was so many great
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: takeaways training. I'm gonna just tell you about the book.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: There's so many because they were relatable. And I think
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: that that's what make this a That's what makes this
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: a very affective book and effective read because of the
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: fact that this is a scenario about this basically a
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: story about when you need help, ask for That's what
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: that whole journey of that story was in a in
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: a nutshell saying that I'm gonna just show you how
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: I pushed my body to a level where it was done,
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: but my ego, my ego almost killed me, almost caused
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: me to die because I refused to ask for help.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: Now what did you basically out tind of just learning that,
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: did you learn anything else other than saying if you
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: need help, uh call forward? Uh uh? Anything else out
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: of that whole scenario? Well? Yeah, Another big thing is,
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: you know, every a lot of people ain't really ain't
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: willing to reach their life for you because there are
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: people there that I knew, you know, like that I
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: knew that I saw watching like my man back, my
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: man just swimming past you. You said, help, excuse me,
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: the finish lae finish Yeah he he like he went
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: and went past. So the thing I took from that
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: I tell people to this day, like a real friend
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: somebody who really is for you is not going to
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: They're not gonna be the person that talks to you about,
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: you know, and watch you struggle, reports your struggles. They're
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: gonna be a person that says, you know what, like
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: we were in allow as about it because I was
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: in there hoping you're struggling together or we didn't make it.
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: And it's just like you realize that when struggle shows up,
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: a lot of loyalty or a lot of you know,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: uh people claim that they're really for you will disappear.
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: And they taught me a lot about that because literally,
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: it was probably a hundred people there that I knew
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: because I lit a fitness class out there, and some
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: people didn't see me. But I know for a fact
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: about thirty people taught me in there, and they weren't
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: really they wasn't willing to risk their life or even
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it was a life risking situation,
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: but there wasn't really get in there and helped me out.
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: And so it just taught me a lot about when
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: it gets really you're gonna see who's really real, who's
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: really there for you? Well, what's what's with that statement?
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: Let's live the chapter five which I have that here
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: called straight up about friends. Yeah, And I was talking
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: to my staff the other day that was just you know,
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't say I'm a loner, but I'm
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: a I'm a overachiever, and I'm a guy who pivots.
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: So that when I said, pivot means and when I
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: see an opportunity, Trent, I will go and get to
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: achieve success in that opportunity. So when you pivot, a
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: lot of times you that means that the mindset A
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: lot of people go, hey, man, where are you going there?
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: A lot of people will say, man, you you try
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: to do everything. A lot of people were kind of like, uh,
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: throw negative statements to you just because you're willing to
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: put forth the after to be successful. So you have
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: to always watch when people throw those cliches out there.
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: You never satisfy or you're trying to. You're trying to
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: be good at everything. You know, you know, so once
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: you just settled down. That's a lot of older people
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: say to you, won't you just settled down? You're good
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: at one thing? And so to me, as I went along,
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: I was I told them as to look the people
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: I graduated from high school. I don't really know him anymore.
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: The people I went to college, there's a bunch of
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: us started out together. I really don't know him anymore.
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: The people that worked at my first job. And so
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: as you go through life, you're you're gonna you're gonna pivot.
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: You're gonna have people who believe in you, and you're
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: gonna have people that support you, but more importantly, surround
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: yourself with the people who are uh, the street term
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: it is rye or die, but basically that's what you
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: gotta have. And sometimes even those ride to die people
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: when you pivot, might not be ready for that change,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: and you may need to say, you know, I'm sorry,
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: this is where our relationship ends. And that's what that's
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: what professional sports does. Professional sports they know how to pivot.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: They go, look, you know, you you good five years ago.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: You may it was good last season, but I got
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: somebody else. And life is about pivoting, and that's what
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: That was my great takeaway from that chapter. I wanted
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: to hear your your take on it as well. That
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: was chapter five straight up about friends. Yeah. Absolutely, Um.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: I always said when when you hit new levels, you're
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: gonna probably get new relationships because everybody won't be willing
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: to grow with you. That's just facts. You know. There's
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: some people that don't understand that. There's some people that
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: don't want to put in the work, there's some people
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: that it makes uncomfortable. And so as you continue to
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: move and progress with your life, you're going to lose people.
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: And that's something I had to realize because for me,
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: it was like, why don't you get this? And like
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: you said, those cliches like I have, people say you
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: still doing that little rehab time thing or why are
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: you you know, And it's because a lot of people
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: don't understand just greatness. They don't they don't understand going
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: for your dreams. A lot of people talk about it,
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't have that mindset. And
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: so what's helped me um, you know, over these years,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: it's finding people that have that mindset, finding people who
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: who challenge me, Finding people who are either at where
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: I want to be, are are trying their hardest to
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: get where I want to be. And the more I'm
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: surrounding myself around people with those values, it's tended to
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: stick relationships in my life. Right because I got around people,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: not for external reasons. Are not because you know, we
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: we just connect like that, but because you have a
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: mindset that I wouldn't mind catching. Because mindsets are very contagious,
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: which you surround your life around, you're gonna be that,
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: you know, for if you stay around that for a
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: long period of time. So I'm trying to find mindsets
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: that grow mind and that give me outside my covert
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: zone as much as I can. I want to close
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: out with this last chapter here talking to Trent Shelton,
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: I want to just talk about this whole thought about fear,
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: And in chapter ten it's about straight up about fear.
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: And I always talk about fear what I talk to people,
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: because fear of change, fear of you know, the pandemic
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: has really talked us a lot about fear because of
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: the fact that it's it's forced us to live in
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: a life that we wouldn't do, we didn't prepare for,
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: and it's forced us to make adjustments financial adjusttional, social adjustments.
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: And this chapter I think is so relevant now and
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: because of the fact of the pandemic, and it's about
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: facing the dog, as you say, and the dog is
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: about you know, I always till when you're growing up
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: and say, if you stare a dog barking, if you
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: stare at him, he had cower down. That's what they
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: tell you, you know, you know. But but that chapter
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: I thought was so important to me because of what
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: is happening right now, facing reality, willing to make change,
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: failures and fatal how they had fear talk about that
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: and we're wrapped us up trending trending. I really appreciate
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: you coming on the show. Well, I appreciate you, man,
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: And uh, you know, fears this, you know, I think
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: there's two types of fear, right, There's a fear that
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: that that keeps you a live as a fear that
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: tells you, hey, you shouldn't go do that because more
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: than likely, you know, maybe it was me jumping like
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: you getting on the on the gear, right, it's like
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: your fear told you, hey, you might go on like this.
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: So there's a smart fear. But there's also a fear
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: that keeps us from being everything that we're created to be.
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: Our keepers from progressive and we usually happens with fear
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: is that we allow things we can't control to control us.
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: Are as I like to say, we create a result
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: from a situation we haven't experienced yet. And so if
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: when I think about my fear of public speaking, it
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: was I was telling myself I was gonna fail. I
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: was telling myself people are gonna laugh at me before
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: I ever started. And so if you're telling yourself that,
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: you're never going to do it. And so the thing
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: that I love to tell people is that one focus
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: on what you can control and to change the experience right,
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: say okay, even if it doesn't go right, I'm going
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: to grow from this. I'm gonna learn from this, and
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: you will find the courage to walk through that door
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: for every single time if we wanna waits for you,
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: it's something that's positive. So I just think that's how
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: we really challenge fear is by facing it. And this
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: is the thing too, You'll never win. You're a war
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: by runner from your battles. So people want to complain
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: about the reality, but you'll never change it if you
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: never say, my man, I want to appreciate you. This.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: I'm talking to Trich Shelton, the author of the amazing
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: book that's coming out August fourth, but you can pre
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: order it right now. It's called Straight Up The helpful
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: book guys young adults to establish healthy relationships, chase after
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: their dreams, and live their very best life. Thank you
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: Trent for coming on the show. My friend and we
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: will be in touch. Get those banners to me, man,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: Thank you, I got you, man, Thank you so much
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- 1:32:02Speaker 1: African American who are suffering, who don't have the right
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: banking talked to us about that whole process that starting
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: in and we're gonna come forward to because what you
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: created is definitely needed. I know that for a fact,
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: and that's why I have your money made conversations. Yeah,
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: so you know the reality is that, Um, when I
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: was at my job, I was one of the most
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: senior Black people at JP Morgan, and I realized that
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: where I was sitting, I was not in a position
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: to impact my community where I come from, with my people,
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: and I wanted I was at a stage in life
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: where I said, you know what, I'd rather try and
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: solve this problem and fail than to stay in my
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: job and keep doing what I'm doing, because at least
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: I can have the satisfaction in life of trying to
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: tackle it. And I was so frustrated with being in
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: conversations with people talking about the problem and not really
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: having a conversation about, well, here's some tangible solutions. So
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: I thought, let me take my training I've been fortunately
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: fortunate to have worked at some of the biggest financial
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: services companies in this country with some well known people,
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: and I said, let me take this training and see
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: if I can bring it back to my community. UM.
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: And that's how we got to mokify. And we all
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: have our moments in life. But when I was watching
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: Ferguson Burn, it reminded me of episodes of Eyes on
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: the Prize that so many of us grew up watching
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: as as a young person, and so many more of
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: us lived through UM in the Civil rights era. And
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: I just thought that, you know what, there's got to
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: be a better way. And got all this training, Let's
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: see if you can put it to you. So that
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: was my sort of George Floyd moment happened um then,
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: and it put me in a position to ask some
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: difficult questions. Why do black folks spend more than fifty
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: on banking products in their white counterparts every month? Right?
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: Why is it that over the course of a lifetime,
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: a black person can spend forty thousand dollars more for
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: banking services than their counterpart. And how can we have
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: an impact? Because it's all about how do we create
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: wealth in our communities, and it's got to start by
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: not going to the check cashier. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, you know.
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: You know in two thousands, you know, when I was
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: doing radio, Steve Harban, I was doing radio just watching
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: them going to Compton. These checks hashings, just outrageous fees
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: they're paying in watts and competence South l a. And
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: not only just there, but in the Fifth War and
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: the third wards of Houston, Texas, and South side of Chicago.
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: You know, in the communities of Harlem, New York, and
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: other boroughs in the d C Area. Even where you go,
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: black people are being explored it because they don't have
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: access to the correct way to you to to to
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: to receive their money and to positive money. That's exactly right,
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: and there's an assumption that those are the right ways
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: that should serve the black community. The fact that they're
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: more check cashers than there are McDonald's and burger Kings
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: in this country tells you a lot. Right of the
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: of the bank branches that have closed in this country
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: have been in low and moderate income communities, and that's
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: our community. So we can do better. And I wanted
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: to try to be a part of that conversation. Um.
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: And to bring it to today, to your point, we're
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: seeing the implications of being on the outside looking in
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: from the financial services perspective. How does that manifest itself?
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: It manifests itself in such a way that you've got um,
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people who still haven't collected. They're yes,
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: if your couple or five hundred dollars a child, if
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: child has not turned eighteen, that's exactly right. And so
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: why are we, the most vulnerable of us, need these dollars?
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: And yet if we're waiting for a check, and even
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: if we get the check, we still got to go
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: to the check casher to cash it. Oh but by
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: the way, the check casher is I've got to leave
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: my home to get there. That puts me at risk,
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: you know, with this COVID nineteen situation. And so now
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: I've got to risk my life to cash a check
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: that and oh, by the way, I'm not gonna get
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: my full I gotta pay a fee to get that
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: money in the first place. I mean, it just all
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. And also, let's remind me and you
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: cashing it not in the most friendly environment. You know,
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: you got a buzzy in glass. They don't even trust
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: you as a customer. They don't see you as a
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: lawyer customer. They don't want to grow your money, they
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: don't want to posit your money. They don't They want
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: to just see you for that one time, get what
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: they can get out of you, buzz you out. So
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: it's never environment that they wants you to bring your
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: children into. There's nobody there with a lollypops. Their condition
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: environment what you sit on the chair, you know what
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: I'm talking this, that's how people do quality banking when
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: you want to put your money in. This is the
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: environment that they're not used to. So guess what generation
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: behind you sees that and say that's how I do
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: my money too. That's how I'm supposed to live. That's
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: why I say now I had to bring you on
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: the show man. This is just right here. We just
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: started scratching the surface of the greatness of what you
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: have come about, what you're delivering, because I'm at the
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: forefront of just black people. You know, they when these
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: twelve hun dollars stimulus checks going straight to the people
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: who file taxes and then then that money gets returned
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: back to the government. They never see it because they
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: don't have bank accounts, right, right, right, And the thing
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: about it is a bank account. It sounds so simple,
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: but for so many of us, it's not that simple.
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: And one of the things that we're imagining a world
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: is we're going to transform the stores and the locations
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: where we live into virtual bank branches. So what we're
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: what we're setting up is you can get there's a
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: free a t M network. We've got an a t
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: M network. You can get your cash out for free.
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: I don't care what your balance is. We're not charging
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: a monthly minimum fee. We're not charging you um to
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: set up the account. You can start transacting with us
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: for free, and you get the state of the art
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: plastic touchless. It's got a chip in it, it's got
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: a pin because that's what we deserve because our philosophy
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: is if you bring a high quality product to a
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: large market, you've got a game with the business. So anyway,
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: so we're transforming the walmarts, the CVS is, the Riot
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: aids into places where you can put cash in your
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: account for free, take cash out of your account for free,
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: and we're allowing people to take checks pictures of their
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: check and that money will be deposited into your account
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: for free, real time. There's no reason you need to
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: go to check cash or ever again if you work
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: with about and and the part that I'm so excited about.
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: I'm excited about so many parts of this, and you
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: know this is this is where I'm excited, so is Dad.
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: See what black people or people of color have to
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: have to learn and understand that that cell phone is
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: a mini computer, It's a meaning computer, and that is
- 1:39:36Speaker 1: the game changer that we have to educate them about
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: because you're about to get hit again with this potential
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: home schooling are are are because of panded, because of
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: the pandemic and COVID eighteen. We have to learn that
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: this this little app that you can drop, that you
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: can did you did you feel it's only for texting,
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: for taking photos and making phone calls? Is the game
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: anger for your financial life. That is what I really
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: want to pound on this interview is that you know
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: black people buy more Android phones than anybody in the world.
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: Black people right right right, And when I saw this,
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: I went Okay, as a team, we have to I
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: have to talk to him because I gotta figure out
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: a way to be able to sell this I got,
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: you know, I got a bi monthly newsletter goes out
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: the ninety thousand fans every month, and to grow is growing,
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: and I want to drop this information in there. You know.
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: Sometimes they're block you on Facebook when you start talking
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: financial and stuff like that. But I have my own
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: assets that I can put the word out because this
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: type of information that you're delivering has to be told
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: and has to be shared because of the fact that
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: if we don't understand that that that this this pandemic
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: should be an eye opened from the technology side or
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: the lack of information that we're using through technology. And
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: this mobility app that you created, that mobile of the
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: capital finance app is the game changer, sir. It's the
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: game change. Uh well, the things that I appreciate that
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: and we want to be very much a part of
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: your getting the word out. So I look forward to
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: taking advantage of how you reach your nine and growing. Um,
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: I got eight hundred thousands on my Facebook. I got
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: another hundred thousands. We're gonna figure out how to get
- 1:41:21Speaker 1: this out there, you know. And I just know that
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: sometimes we say financial money and your copy you know,
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: Facebook or Flag and all this, but We're gonna figure
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: this out because you you just say mobility and capital finance.
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: I think I can get that out like that. But
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: I just know that you you gotta be smart, you know,
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: when you're trying to reach your people. I got eighty
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: eight percent of my excuse me aightent of my followers
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: on my Facebook account or female, which are the decision
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: makers who are the usually the people who handle the
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: purse strings. So I know I have the right audience
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: to be able to communicate. It's just being able to
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: get you on the show. Let you know I'm a fan,
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: and let you know I have a high degree of
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: sincerity when I'm talking to you. Well, I appreciate that
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: very much. You when you talk about the your your
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: your fan base, and your women, it Drew reminds me
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: of something my mom says often, which is stopping the
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: women stops the power. And so we need to empower
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: women so they are because they really do have the
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: responsibility of managing our homes and managing our lives. One
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: of the things that I've been very we're very focused
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: on is around and and and just peep this around
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: rent payments being a way that people can build their
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: credit score. So if you think about it, for many
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: of us, our rent payment on a monthly basis is
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: the largest expense that we have each month, and so
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: few of us actually get that pay aim it into
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: the credit file. We make that free for people. We
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: we enable that and it's free to people. So if
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: they pay that rent on our platform and they can
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: give us the name of their landlord and we can
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: send the landlord to check. We can at the same
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: time provide the two of the bureaus, Equifax and TransUnion
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: that information and all, by the way, that was brilliant.
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: That was brilliant, sir. That was I've read that. I went,
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: that's brilliant because you know, and that's true because of
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: the fact that you know, they don't report that, and
- 1:43:34Speaker 1: so that's the number one thing that we do is
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: pay rent. Pay rents okay, and the fact that you
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: can't even get credit for paying rent. And when I
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: saw that part, I went, wow, Wow, this is brilliant.
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: This is brilliant. Now how are you because I see
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: twenty five years, which is not enough. We are not
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: even close to our number. How do we get that
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: number moving exponentially? In the black community, that's a great question.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: So we think about it in two ways. It's having
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: this conversation UH and having as many of your readers
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: and listeners UM tune in and try us out UM
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: and making sure that people understand the value. So that's
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: part of it. We we too are really trying to
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: improve our digital game UH and spend time on the
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: various social media platforms where people are looking for solutions.
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: And then we're also just but you know, if you
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: look at our community and our history, movements start from
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: the bottom up, right, and so we just need to
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: be in the community. For example, we're in Newark and
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: the folks who are in a summer job program working
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: with the City of Newark, they're using our platform to
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: get paid their summer wages. Instead of getting gift cards,
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: they're actually opening up a full dd A bank account
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: on our platform. Right, We've got folks in Brooklyn who
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: are UM getting some COVID relief dollars and they are
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: instead of getting along gift cards, they are able to
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: sign up and get their dollars by opening up an
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: account with us, and the organizations are putting dollars into
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: those accounts. So it's those kinds of opportunities. We've got
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: folks in Atlanta who are we're helping provide through some
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: philanthropic dollars rent relief so people don't get evicted from
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: their homes and at the same time saying, now is
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: the time for you to think about improving your banking
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: situations so you don't have to waste money on excess fees.
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: So we're just trying to go through all the channels
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: with great community partners, folks like yourselves who reach such
- 1:45:54Speaker 1: an important audience, UH to tell the story and hopefully
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: each person that uses a product they'll tell a friend
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: and um, you know, we'll grow it that way. One
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: of the things that's credit you can send money to
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: another Motifi we called Mobility Capital finance, so we go
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: by mokifi another Motify card holder for free instantaneously versus
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: going to Western Union playing fees. Yeah, I'm telling you something.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: I know. This is a This is a lot of
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: stuff going on that you know, because you know when
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: you when you when you sit on the other side
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: and just like you said, on the other side and
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: you do business a certain way and you're going to bank,
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: they look at you different and your bank account looks different,
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: and then not see my people living a life struggling, struggling,
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: and you're struggling because I grew up in inner city,
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: so I know struggle and u and so this, this
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: is such a quality mission. And the reason I keep
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: bringing it up is that black people functioning this kind
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: treat and we don't get credit for how we function.
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: And that's what racism is all about. And we don't
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: get in function. And that's the problem we're having right
- 1:47:07Speaker 1: now with with with with the with these Confederate statues. See,
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: if you actually taught our history and put us in
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: the history books, you clearly understand those statues should never
- 1:47:17Speaker 1: have been up. You'll clearly understand what we've had to do.
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: But they take all that gym crow out of the
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: history books use because white people don't want to feel
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: uncomfortable reading about how they treated blacks. They don't feel
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: uncomfortable how they were hanging blacks, how they were denying
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: blacks opportunities. That's uncomfortable part of history. So flash forward
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: they go, what's the problem, what's the problem with the flag?
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: What's problem with these statues? They hear out because they
- 1:47:46Speaker 1: removed all that information as to why they are not
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: heroes to the people in power and for the people
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: who have suffered. The indignity is because of that situation
- 1:47:57Speaker 1: that they put us in. And so when I see
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: your app and I see technology, because that's the one
- 1:48:03Speaker 1: thing that came out of this whole pandemic for me,
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: that black people we got to put our foot to
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: the metal and technology. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: on a percent. And technology is the great uh equalizer,
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: if you will. To your point, we all have the
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: same phone. Uh there's more technology and the phones that
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: we have today than there was. And they put someone
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: on the moon, um, you know, fifty years ago. So
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: the power is there. But we have another fundamental problem
- 1:48:33Speaker 1: which you which you remind me of, right, thirty six
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: percent of black households do not have internet or computer access,
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: you know, so we have to deal with some fundamental
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: Banking is a fundamental thing. It's mobile, and I think
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: that allows us to bank the way we want to
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: be banked because we're pretty sophisticated people. You give us
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: a good product and that's what that's that's what I'm
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: saying that we got to move that number because we
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna tell you something man. Nobody likes
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: just giving away their money. Okay, nobody likes going down
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: to those check cashing place. I know nobody leaves they're happy.
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: I never see anybody click their heels come out of
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: the check cashing man. Okay, Like I said, they gotta
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: budge you in. It's just just like going into jail. Look,
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: get your money. It's terrible. It's terrible. And so and
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: so and so when I and and the just and
- 1:49:25Speaker 1: so when I when I hear you're talking. That's why
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: I have to realize that that that they're the opportunity
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: with this phone to be able to let them know
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: there's more than just a phone, because through limited education,
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: that's all we think there is. I talk, I text,
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: I take photos. That's it the app because those apps
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: have no value to them. They don't care about running
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: a car, they don't care about airline, airline tickets, they
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: don't care about a lot of things that are important
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: to you and I. All they care about is their money.
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: And there's no there to not knowledge. There's no app
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: on there that can help them with money. And that's
- 1:50:01Speaker 1: what we got to educate people about. That's right, what
- 1:50:04Speaker 1: we think about the world in three places, in three ways. One,
- 1:50:07Speaker 1: we want to get people banged, and to your point,
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: half of African Americans are unbanked or underbanked. That's we do.
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: We don't have to live that way. The second is,
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: we want to help people build their credit score. And um,
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: we're doing it through rent payments. We report to the
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: two of the bureaus and that and of it self
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: contadium money because you know there are these credit repair
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: places that will could charge you, you know, hundred dollars,
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: two hundred dollars to get you fifty points. Um on
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: our I see the commercial on our on our platform.
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: You know you can. We can take up to two
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: years of rental history. And this is not gonna be
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: true for everybody, but the statistics suggest that over will
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: see an improvement in their credit score. We have seen
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: people get up to fifty to a hundred points of
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: credit score improvement by taking rent payments and going back
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: two years. And that can be done in a relatively
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: short period of time. So that's the second part. And
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: then the third part. If you've got your banking right,
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: if you've got your credit score right, then we can
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: start talking about how do we build wealth. Can you
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: buy a house. Can you start that, uh, that new business?
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: Can you think about maybe putting some couple of dollars
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: aside and putting it in the stock market? So how
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: do we start to create? And then what we do
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: is we provide coaches free to people that understand you
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: that the coach that looks like your your cousin or
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: your sister who you know, it's got your best interest
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: in heart, not just trying to sell you the next
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: shiny object. Um. So we're trying to think about it
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: holistically until in terms of banking, building credit and then
- 1:51:50Speaker 1: creating wealth in our communities. And so we I'm with you,
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: we wanted to I don't want the twenty five thousand
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: when next time I come on your show. I wanted
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: to be a hundred thousand. It has to be. Now,
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a negative manner. I just
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: don't know that. I just know that you know that.
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: That's all I do is market you know. I just
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: think of ways of being able to get the message out.
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: And that message is that phone and and understand it's
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: almost like you know what, you know what a noys
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: to me? Like you you're you're you're buy a phone,
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: or you buy a computer, you get a remote, and
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: Netflix already on the remote, It's already there. If you
- 1:52:26Speaker 1: don't have if you don't on Netflix is there, It's
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: there already. You know what I'm saying. And so so
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm sitting over here, how can I
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: get his app on every phone? So I'm saying, right there,
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now, I'm trying to figure
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: out how can I not have his app standard on
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: every black phone in the minority community. How can we
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: how can we not make that happen? Because I see
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: it happening with Netflix, right I This happened on the regular.
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: You know, you look at you look at TV. Twitter
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: already getting self promote to follow, Twitter, follow Facebook, you
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: know all of you know, follow, follow, all these all
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: these different brands. You are a brand, coax them. And
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: my mind is like, how can I get this brand
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: to become relevant to the black community. One of the
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: ways it has to become a standard bearer for opportunity,
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: And we have to talk to the right people. And
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: right now, right now, everybody's talking about diversity. Everybody's talking
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: about trying to help out black people, trying to equal
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: the playing field. My man, you have the software. Now
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: you have to talk to the right people. Go Look,
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: if you're trying to help the black community to get
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: them out of those check cashes, I got it right here.
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: There's no agenda tied to it. Make it making making
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: a loadable feature these little bird of phones. Okay, right,
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: let's stop that. Right, that's a great idea. That's exactly correct,
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: and it's just right there. People don't have to think
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: about it, just just sign up. And that's the other thing.
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: So many of us may find ourselves if we were
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: to go to a traditional bank excluded because they might check.
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: Then they might they do check the check system. And
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: if you have a history of UM a bank account problem,
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: they're not gonna open up account for you. We don't
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: have that problem. We want everybody right. We just want
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: to make sure you are you stare you are. You
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: can open up your account. It takes three minutes, and
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: at the end of the process, you've got your six
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: team digital account number. You can start charging, and you've
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: got your UM account number and routing number. You can
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: start doing direct deposit and peep this. In the coming
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: couple of weeks, we're gonna have a set up that
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: you can get your paycheck two days early if you
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: do direct deposit with us. Okay, cool, I'm in. I'man
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: you know we need to stay in touch her, all right.
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: We need to stay in touch absolutely from the standpoint
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: of uh, any tool I have available because in the end,
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: I've been fortunate. I'm just have a natural drive just
- 1:55:07Speaker 1: like you. Um. We all have different hands that we
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: have been dealt. But it's what you deal with those opportunities.
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: So and I don't feel that I'm I can't be
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: happy if everybody if I'm not at least sharing the
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: gifts that God has given me. And that's what this
- 1:55:24Speaker 1: is what this interview is about. And uh, and I
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: just wanted my my my take on this would let
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: you know I get what you do with my friend.
- 1:55:31Speaker 1: I get it. We gotta we gotta, we gotta quadruple
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: that number. We gotta we gotta do some mad math.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: Or my degree is in mathematics. We gotta do some
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: mad math on that number, because if we if we don't,
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: then we're not doing what it's purpose. We're not the
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: purpose of it is to is to engage African America
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: or people of color financially to a level playing field,
- 1:55:56Speaker 1: better credit, better banking, that we pay more fees than
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: any at We got to stop all that, right, right,
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: and and you know what happens you give us a
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: level of playing field. Guess who wins? We do all
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: the time, and guess who else wins? The country wins.
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: And that's what makes me mad about racism. I always
- 1:56:16Speaker 1: tell people, you know what, some man. All my life,
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: I'm I'm a black man, I groping up black. All
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: I ever wanted, man was the was the lifestyle of
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: a white person. That's why I went to college to
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: get educated so I can live in a better neighborhood.
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: All I've ever wanted was my child to have a
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: better life than I have. What do the same values
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: to everybody in America wants? But because when you try
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: to pursue these values, people looking at it because of
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: our color, the color of our sin. And we're not
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: giving equal opportunity to have that same opportunity because guess what,
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: they don't want us to move into suburbs, then we
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: don't want us to move in the better neighborhoods. And
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: so when I say this, I'm not saying this as
- 1:56:51Speaker 1: a as a radical person. I'm just saying the facts
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: is you give us an opportunity, we become better taxpaying citizens.
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: The community gets better, the education gets better, the jail
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: system is less important in our community, and America wins.
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: That is how you make America better. M Well, the
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: that is a that is very true. I can't agree
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: with that more. And the reality is, um that if
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: we do become fully a part of the economy, the
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: whole place gets better. Yes, and we're able to get
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: all votes rise. It's not it's not at the expense
- 1:57:33Speaker 1: of somebody else. All votes rise. And that's what we
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: got to keep in mind. My friend, we will talk soon.
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: You just let me know if you want to do
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: a zoom call or whatever. Um. And now, my passion
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: and my God, the talents the God gave my DNA
- 1:57:47Speaker 1: is allian with what you're trying to do. Let's let's
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: let's just change the world, okay, especially in the minority communities.
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: All right, all day, I'm your partner on that. Thank you, sir.
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you for calling my show, Money
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