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Jimmy Kimmel OUT! Not 'Cancel Culture' but 'Consequence Culture' · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: ABC News is pulling Jimmy Kimmel Live quote indefinitely. Why
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Speaker 1: did this happen because of comments that he made about
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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. But it wasn't just that. It was more
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Speaker 1: about follow the money. Next Star Media, one of the
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Speaker 1: nation's largest TV station owners, said that it would stop
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Speaker 1: airing the program in response to Jimmy Kimmel's remarks about
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Speaker 1: the killing of conservative activists and friend Charlie Kirk. Now,
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Speaker 1: you may be asking yourself what did he say, because
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Speaker 1: the majority of you listening, I have a feeling did
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Speaker 1: not watch Jimmy Kimmel when he did this or ever.
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to play it for you and then
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Speaker 1: you can decide afterwards if you believe ABC got it right.
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Speaker 1: All right, I want to take a moment and I
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you real quick about what you
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Speaker 1: can do to help the people in Israel. It was
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Speaker 1: nearly two years ago that the terrorists murdered more than
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Speaker 1: twelve hundred innocent Israelis and they took two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty hostages. Today, it seems as if the cries of
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Speaker 1: the dead and dying have been drowned out by the
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Speaker 1: shouts of anti Semitism and just pure hatred, not just
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Speaker 1: in America but around the world. And the most brutal
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Speaker 1: attack on Jewish people happened. It happened since the Holocausts,
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Speaker 1: and now it's like they're trying to act like it
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Speaker 1: never happened. Now, this is where it is important for
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Speaker 1: us to stand with the people in Israel. It's a
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Speaker 1: movement of love and support for the people of Israel,
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Speaker 1: and this is where I want you to get involved.
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Speaker 2: It is called Flags of Fellowship.
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Speaker 1: It's being organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
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Speaker 1: On October fifth, you can stand with Israel and the
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Speaker 1: victims proudly. Just a few weeks away, millions across America
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Speaker 1: will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in honor with the
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Speaker 1: victims of October the seventh, twenty twenty three, and stand
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Speaker 1: with their grieving families. You can be a part of
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Speaker 1: this movement as well. And that's what I love about
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Speaker 1: what IFCJ does. They're making sure that the world knows
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Speaker 1: there are there are lots of people of faith in
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Speaker 1: this country and friends and advocates for Israel.
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Speaker 2: They're going to stand with them.
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Speaker 1: You can get more information about how you can join
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Speaker 1: the Flags of Fellowship movement, including your church. There are
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Speaker 1: going to be countless church around the country. They're going
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Speaker 1: to plant flags as well. So all you have to
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Speaker 1: do to get involved with Flags of Fellowship movement is
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Speaker 1: go to IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. Stand
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Speaker 1: with Israel on October the fifth, it's just a few
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Speaker 1: weeks away. And if your church you think would want
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Speaker 1: to be involved, you can also find out more about
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Speaker 1: how to get your church to be involved on a
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Speaker 1: special Sunday at IFCJ dot org.
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Speaker 2: That's if CJ.
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Speaker 1: Now, I also want to say this, I don't think
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Speaker 1: ABC got it right for the reasons you may want
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Speaker 1: to believe.
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Speaker 2: What do I mean by that.
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Speaker 1: I'll explain it in a moment, But here is what
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel said when he went on the air and
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Speaker 1: told the ABC audience that Charlie Kirk's assassin was a
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Speaker 1: MAGA Conservative that, by the way, is a lie and
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? In translation, he was literally blaming
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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk for his own assassination. He wasn't done there,
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Speaker 1: by the way. He then accused the Right of covering
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Speaker 1: it up to quote score political points. All of these
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Speaker 1: statements are false. All of them are malicious lies told
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Speaker 1: at the expense of one of the most horrific acts
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Speaker 1: of the left wing political violence in modern political American history.
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Speaker 1: So would you defend this well, ABC, many would believe
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Speaker 1: had no choice but to bench or fire Kimmel for
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Speaker 1: what he had to say in his monologue. And let's
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Speaker 1: also be clear, this was pre planned, it was well written,
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Speaker 1: it was organized, It wasn't off the coff This is
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Speaker 1: part of the show that night, and here it is get.
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Speaker 3: Some new lows over the weekend with the Magga Gang
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Speaker 3: desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 3: as anything other than one of them, and do everything
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Speaker 3: they can to score political points from and in between
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Speaker 3: the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White
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Speaker 3: House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism,
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Speaker 3: but on a human level, you can see how hard
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Speaker 3: the President is taking this back adults on a lot of.
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Speaker 4: Your friend Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how are you
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Speaker 4: holding up over the last day and a half served.
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Speaker 5: I think very good.
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Speaker 6: And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks.
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Speaker 6: They just started construction of the new ball room for
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Speaker 6: the White House.
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Speaker 5: Which is something they've been trying to get, as.
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Speaker 6: You know, for about one hundred and fifty years, and
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Speaker 6: it's going to be a beauty.
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Speaker 3: He's at the fourth stage of grief construction, demolition.
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Speaker 5: Construction.
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Speaker 3: This is not how an adult grief's the murder of
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Speaker 3: somebody called a friend. This is how a four year
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Speaker 3: old mourns a goldfish.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you listen to what he had to say there.
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Speaker 1: He also mocked not only the murder, but what was
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Speaker 1: behind it. Now, this is normal for Jimmy Kimmel. And
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Speaker 1: you may say, Ben, that's not true. Show me evidence.
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Speaker 1: How can you say that this is normal? All right,
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Speaker 1: let me just remind you a couple months ago. You
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Speaker 1: remember when Jimmy Kimmel's audience actually cheered when Tesla's stock
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Speaker 1: was down, and he smugly called for more Tesla attacks
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Speaker 1: as there were anarchists out there attacking Tesla's setting them
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Speaker 1: on fire, setting dealerships on fire. This was Jimmy Kimmel
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Speaker 1: when he hates did Elon Musk because he was working
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Speaker 1: with the president.
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Speaker 3: Our co president. Elon Musk sent a SpaceX vehicle to
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Speaker 3: bring the astronauts back, and when they landed, he fired
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Speaker 3: them immediately upon landing. Tesla stock is way down, almost
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Speaker 3: disastrously sold people.
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Speaker 5: People haven't.
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Speaker 3: Vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles. Please don't vandalize. Don't
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Speaker 3: ever vandalize Tesla vehicles.
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Speaker 5: And so.
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Speaker 1: You know when I listened to that, it is consistent
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Speaker 1: with what he's been doing for years. Year after year,
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel comes on TV and trashes half of America. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the business side of this so that
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Speaker 1: you understand why ABC really may.
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Speaker 2: Have made this move.
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Speaker 1: It could be because they were looking for a way out.
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Speaker 1: It is reported by the Way that Jimmy Kimmel's salary
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Speaker 1: is massive sixteen million dollars a year. According to Forbes,
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Speaker 1: Kimmel is ranked as the twenty third most highest paid
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Speaker 1: TV host in twenty twenty five, and again, sixteen million
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Speaker 1: is an awful lot of money. The Economic Times reporting
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Speaker 1: right now, Jimmy Kimmel loses his annual salary of sixteen
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Speaker 1: million after ABC sacks him over to Charlie Kirk controversy.
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Speaker 1: Check his net worth. He's gonna be by the way
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Speaker 1: just fine. And there's also word that he's gonna keep
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Speaker 1: hosting other shows like Who Wants to Be a Millionaire,
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Speaker 1: which will make him even more money as well. But
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel is a guy that's not as popular as
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Speaker 1: he used to be, and part of that is because
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Speaker 1: of the hatred and the bigotry towards conservatives on his show.
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Speaker 1: Each and every night, he brings on people to mock conservatives,
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Speaker 1: to ridicule conservatives, to trash conservatives, to advocate for vioue
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Speaker 1: against things like Tesla dealerships because of Elon Musk, and
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Speaker 1: mocking Donald Trump every chance he gets. So is it
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Speaker 1: harder now for ABC to make money off of Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Kimmel that it's ever been. Yeah, And maybe this was
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Speaker 1: their way of saying, we get a get out of
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Speaker 1: jail free card from a long term contract. Let's not forget.
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Speaker 1: They just announced the announcement that they were getting rid
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Speaker 1: of Stephen Colbert. And it wasn't because he said something
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Speaker 1: about Charlie Kirk. It was because of the financial aspect
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Speaker 1: of the show. By the way, Stephen Colbert didn't say, hey,
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Speaker 1: drop my salary or I won't take a salary or
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Speaker 1: take care of the people around me, and stead he
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Speaker 1: complained that this was somehow cancel culture. Well, no, it
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Speaker 1: was about dollars and cents, which brings me to this
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Speaker 1: idea that this is somehow cancel culture, and that free
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Speaker 1: speech is being silenced, and that we should all be
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Speaker 1: terrified or concerned. The left is losing their mind over this.
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Speaker 1: They can't believe that someone that alienated at least half
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Speaker 1: of America every single night, mocking them, ridiculing them, and
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Speaker 1: chastising them could then all of a sudden get themselves
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Speaker 1: in a bad spot with ratings when the audience has
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Speaker 1: been diluted. We've all seen this among broadcast TV. We've
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Speaker 1: also seen it among radio. That phone that many people
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Speaker 1: have in their hand right now has changed the way
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Speaker 1: that people spend their time. No longer do people sit
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Speaker 1: in front of the TV and say, hey, who does
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Speaker 1: Leno have on tonight? Or who does Letterman have on tonight?
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Speaker 1: Many people don't even know which network Kimmel's on or
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Speaker 1: Colbert or whoever the other person is on the other network.
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Speaker 1: You get my point. This is the reality of late
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Speaker 1: night television. It is not what it used to be.
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Speaker 1: Nowhere close in fact, it isn't even the redhead stepchild of.
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Speaker 2: What it used to be. So you take a look
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Speaker 2: at this, and this may have been.
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Speaker 1: A chance for ABC News to actually fix a problem
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Speaker 1: that they had financially and do it under the cover
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Speaker 1: of well, you said some really mean things about Charlie.
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Speaker 1: But what is the media doing with it. Well, they're
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Speaker 1: going to the completely opposite direction. They're now claiming that this
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Speaker 1: is Donald Trump, a dictator and a tyrant doing cancel culture.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Donald Trump did not cancel Jimmy Kimmel.
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Speaker 1: The liberals at ABC and Disney are the ones that
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Speaker 1: did it. I want you to listen to what was
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Speaker 1: said on CNN tonight. Brian Skelter, a guy that was
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Speaker 1: fired and now brought back to CNN, had this to
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Speaker 1: say on Aaron Burnett's show Listen carefully.
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Speaker 7: Truly dropped, as I think a shock to anybody who
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Speaker 7: heard it, even if they knew the Brendan Carr, the
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Speaker 7: pro Trump chief of the FCC, had made the comments
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Speaker 7: he made on that podcast. I don't think there's anybody
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Speaker 7: who literally thought within hours Jimmy Kimmel would be gone.
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Speaker 8: Right, absolutely right. In fact, this was very sudden this afternoon,
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Speaker 8: after car spoke out on that far right podcast. Then
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Speaker 8: some stations that are owned by other companies but affiliated
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Speaker 8: with ABC started to complain to ABC. We know one
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Speaker 8: of them, Next Star, which has about two dozen stations
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Speaker 8: with the ABC logo and all the ABC programming. Nextstar,
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Speaker 8: publicly announced that they were going to drop Kimmel's show indefinitely.
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Speaker 8: Within a matter of minutes, we heard from Disney that
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Speaker 8: the show was being pulled all together. That suggests to
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Speaker 8: me that other station owners were probably also getting scared.
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Speaker 8: Other station owners were probably also coming up with backup
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Speaker 8: plans not to air Kimmel's show. But even though we're
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Speaker 8: talking about comedy, this is so serious, Aaron, America is
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Speaker 8: a less free place if late night comedians cannot do
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Speaker 8: and say what they want.
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Speaker 2: Let's just stop there and go to that last statement.
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Speaker 1: America is a less free place if late night comedians
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Speaker 1: cannot do and say what they want. You can say
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Speaker 1: what you want. There are consequences, However, when you lie.
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Speaker 1: He lied about the assassin. He blamed Charlie Kirk for
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Speaker 1: his own death. He lied and said it was some
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Speaker 1: sort of magic conservative when we all know this was
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Speaker 1: a radical lefty that was angry about what was being
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Speaker 1: said by Charlie Kirk about his transgendered lover. This was
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Speaker 1: someone that said he couldn't handle Charlie Kirk's words. You
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Speaker 1: want to talk about free place, Charlie Kirk wasn't free
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Speaker 1: to say what he wanted to say. By the way,
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Speaker 1: CNN won't say that. What they will say is Jimmy Kimmel,
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Speaker 1: who is one of their mouth pieces for the hate
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Speaker 1: of the left and the lies that are put out
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Speaker 1: by the left is now gone and they're upset about it.
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Speaker 1: So what they said is, well, oh my gosh, this
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Speaker 1: is we are less safe tonight. Free speech is left.
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Speaker 1: Say no, it's not. You can say whatever you want
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Speaker 1: to say when you're on radio and TV.
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Speaker 2: It may cost to your job if you lie.
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Speaker 1: And then he went on to say this claiming that
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Speaker 1: this is somehow something that should go to the viewers,
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Speaker 1: by the way, and saying, well, if you don't like
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, we should keep paying him sixty million dollars
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Speaker 1: a year. And you can just turn the channel, right,
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Speaker 1: that's liberal logic.
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Speaker 8: Of course, they can be tuned out. People can change
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Speaker 8: the channel.
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Speaker 2: People can change the channel a lot of people did.
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Speaker 1: By the way, you think ABC News canceled this guy
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Speaker 1: because he has massive ratings. No, they canceled this guy
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Speaker 1: because the alien and half the country. And then he
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Speaker 1: blamed a man who was gunned down in the prime
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Speaker 1: of his life for his own death. The other thing
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Speaker 1: about free speech that's just a total lie about the
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel cancelation is the fact that like he can't
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Speaker 1: talk anymore, Jimmy Kimmel is still free to speak the
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Speaker 1: bigotry and the lies and the hatred towards conservatives, and
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Speaker 1: the lies about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. He can
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Speaker 1: still rant all he wants to. He can do it
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Speaker 1: on social media accounts. But ABC doesn't have to pay
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Speaker 1: him to do that. They don't owe him a paycheck
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Speaker 1: to lie on national TV. And this was a TRIFECTA
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Speaker 1: number one viewers had had enough and there had been
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Speaker 1: a real decline in his ratings. Affiliates had had enough,
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Speaker 1: and he had lost major affiliates. This was a business
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Speaker 1: decision that was made, by the way. I believe that
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Speaker 1: if there was any way to keep going with Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Kimmel financially after they were losing These stations that were
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Speaker 1: saying we've had enough, they would have done it, but
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Speaker 1: they clearly saw that this was the end of the road.
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Speaker 1: The same way, without a controversy, another late night host
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Speaker 1: had alienated more than half of Americans by mocking them
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Speaker 1: and ridiculing them every day. And when you do that,
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Speaker 1: you have a smaller audience to grab from, and when
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Speaker 1: that audience deluded because they're watching so many other options
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Speaker 1: on demand and viewing habits of change, you end up
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Speaker 1: at a point where it's just not economically feasible to
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Speaker 1: keep Stephen Colbert on the air. That's why they made
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Speaker 1: the decision at that network. So this was probably a
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Speaker 1: moment where ABC News is like, thank you, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being this stupid, thank you for saying something that
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Speaker 1: we can't even defend.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying something that we all know is
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Speaker 2: a lie. And now we have.
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Speaker 1: The opportunity to get rid of you, and we get
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Speaker 1: to save a bunch of money.
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Speaker 2: I think that's as simple as this really is.
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Speaker 1: And all the media that is coming out there and
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Speaker 1: losing their minds David Axerot on CNN as well, saying,
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Speaker 1: you know, this is what happens when you get a
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Speaker 1: radical like Donald Trump in the White House. And this
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Speaker 1: is what happens when Donald Trump is designating leftist groups.
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Speaker 2: As terrorist organizations.
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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a moment, but listen to
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Speaker 1: what he had to say about this is again, this
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Speaker 1: is a political enemies list. Jimmy Kimmel and now any
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Speaker 1: of these other terrorist groups, and there our groups and
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Speaker 1: he claims are terrorists.
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Speaker 9: I think you had We owe it to the president,
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Speaker 9: we owe it to the people around him to.
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Speaker 5: Take him seriously.
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Speaker 9: He's been saying not just before but before since the
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Speaker 9: Kirk assassination, but before it, that he was going to
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Speaker 9: go after, say George Soros, because he said he was
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Speaker 9: funding agitators. And this thing tonight, this post should not
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Speaker 9: be dismissed because what it means is he will define,
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Speaker 9: just as they will define the public interest, they will
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Speaker 9: define what is Antifa, and they will go after everyone
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Speaker 9: and everything that they put under that umbrella. Even though
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Speaker 9: it isn't an organization, it is a it is a
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Speaker 9: in many ways mythology, but it gives them, you know,
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Speaker 9: a pretext to go after their political enemies. And you know,
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Speaker 9: Ram said, Karas said, well, you know, voters have a say.
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Speaker 9: They do have a say, but this is going to
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Speaker 9: be a major effort to try and defund any opposition
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Speaker 9: in this country by doing it under this rubric of
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Speaker 9: Antifa and the radical left. I think this is an
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Speaker 9: inflection moment, So it's quite concerning.
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Speaker 2: By the way.
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Speaker 1: It is an inflection moment, but not for the reasons
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Speaker 1: you just heard there from David Axod. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: deal with Antifa in a second, but let me just
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Speaker 1: go back to one of the things about Jimmy Kimmel
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Speaker 1: to put it in perspective. It is a fact that
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel lied about Charlie kirk'ssassination. It's a fact that
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Speaker 1: he blamed him for his own murder, and it's a
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Speaker 1: fact he mocked him on air. There was a line
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Speaker 1: that was crossed, and then you had the FCC that
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Speaker 1: is no longer run by solely leftist radicals, that started
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Speaker 1: to ask questions. Then you had next Our say we're
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Speaker 1: not carrying the show. Then you had Sinclair that was
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Speaker 1: saying we're pulling him from millions of homes. Jimmy destroyed
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Speaker 1: his own career. Now I don't know if he'll ever recover.
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Speaker 1: Some say he'll never recover from this. I never say never,
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Speaker 1: because I know how much the left needs propagandists and
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Speaker 1: hateful people like Jimmy Kimmel.
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Speaker 2: On the air.
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Speaker 1: But this is not and listen to me when I
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Speaker 1: say this, This is not cancel culture. This is consequence culture.
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Speaker 1: And these are the consequences for being able to say
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Speaker 1: and do just vile things for so many years, and
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Speaker 1: it's finally caught up to them because the audience isn't
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Speaker 1: there anymore to justify this level of bigotry. And when
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Speaker 1: you don't have an audience, what do you not have
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Speaker 1: money coming in from major ad buys. You go back
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Speaker 1: to Brian's skelterer, who was playing a moment ago, and
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Speaker 1: you listen to what Brian had to say. He is
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Speaker 1: freaking out, sky is falling, chicken le saying this is
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Speaker 1: a chilling decision. If you understand the business of it,
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Speaker 1: it's not a chilling decision at all. Laura Ingram, by
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Speaker 1: the way, talking about this on her show, she had
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Speaker 1: a very interesting take as she said this.
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Speaker 10: But Byron, I want to get to the big news tonight,
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Speaker 10: which is that ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel off the air.
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Speaker 10: After he made this remark about Charlie.
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Speaker 3: The Maggie Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who
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Speaker 3: murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them,
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Speaker 3: and do everything they can to score political points from it.
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Speaker 11: Byron Well, ABC is a network that broadcast on television
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Speaker 11: stations that are mostly owned by other companies, and apparently
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Speaker 11: one of the biggest station owners in the country said
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Speaker 11: they were not going to air the Kimmel Show anymore
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Speaker 11: after this. You know, I think with him, as it
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Speaker 11: was with Stephen Colbert earlier, this was really a cumulative thing,
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Speaker 11: and I think that Jimmy Kimmel didn't seem to understand
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Speaker 11: that it's not twenty seventeen anymore. If you think back
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Speaker 11: to the terrible days of twenty seventeen, when the entire
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Speaker 11: media was saying Russia, Russia, Russia, twenty four seven, it
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Speaker 11: dominated everything. This is a different atmosphere today. Of course
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Speaker 11: Trump is still controversial, of course there is still a resistance,
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Speaker 11: but this is a serious presidency. They are failing to
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Speaker 11: grapple with that, and now they're also obviously failing to
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Speaker 11: grapple with the ugly violence that has arisen here. With
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Speaker 11: two assassination attempts on Trump and now the killing of
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Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 10: Your reaction to this news. Mark will be learning more
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Speaker 10: about it, but what we know so.
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Speaker 12: Far, well, it's incredible that the Walt Disney Company, which
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Speaker 12: for many, many years has allowed The View and Jimmy
20:53
Speaker 12: Kimmel to take up two hours of real estate to
20:56
Speaker 12: appeal to the big stations in New York and Los
20:58
Speaker 12: Angeles and Chicago where the audiences are more liberal, and
21:02
Speaker 12: now at least one station group and I believe it's
21:04
Speaker 12: at least two where their stations are in more rural
21:07
Speaker 12: areas and not in the big coastal cities and said no,
21:11
Speaker 12: a comment like that in the current environment, less than
21:14
Speaker 12: a week after Charlie Kirk was assassinated is not acceptable.
21:18
Speaker 12: And the fact that ABC did that under some pressure
21:20
Speaker 12: from the FCC, but more under pressure from station owners
21:23
Speaker 12: is a watershed again in the history of a company
21:27
Speaker 12: that put pumped out the View anti Trump for a decade,
21:30
Speaker 12: Jimmy Kimmel anti Trump for a decade. No equal time
21:33
Speaker 12: for MAGA, no equal time for conservative voices. This was
21:36
Speaker 12: a bridge too far under the circumstances, and it's of
21:38
Speaker 12: a piece with what we're seeing, which is some government coercion,
21:42
Speaker 12: but also just the market is speaking. Conservatives watch TV
21:46
Speaker 12: two and they found that unacceptable.
21:49
Speaker 10: Environ to those who say, oh, this is cancel culture.
21:52
Speaker 10: Now you're embracing cancel culture. I hit this last night,
21:56
Speaker 10: but I want to give you the chance to hit
21:57
Speaker 10: that ridiculously stupid retort. What we're talking about, Well, well, I.
22:03
Speaker 11: Think Marcus is right in the sense that the market
22:06
Speaker 11: is speaking in this case, and obviously making a joke,
22:12
Speaker 11: any joke about this assassination at this time just seems
22:17
Speaker 11: to be incredibly reckless, and making one based on a
22:21
Speaker 11: libelous falsehood is even worse. So he obviously did not
22:27
Speaker 11: get the comedian here, did not get the feelings of
22:32
Speaker 11: the mass of his audience. He was so used to
22:34
Speaker 11: resistance narrow casting, which is what the late night shows
22:38
Speaker 11: had become, that he lost track.
22:40
Speaker 10: Of that they ceased to be funny because they cease
22:45
Speaker 10: to connect with the American people. It should go back
22:48
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Speaker 1: Mark I couldn't agree, by the way more with Laura there.
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Speaker 1: And this is how hatred is. Finally the American people
22:59
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23:04
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23:06
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23:11
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Speaker 2: Yes? Is this cancel culture?
23:15
Speaker 13: No?
23:16
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23:19
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23:27
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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump has declared that he is designating the
25:55
Speaker 1: Antifa movement as a major terrorist organization. He also stated
26:02
Speaker 1: he will recommend that people or organizations funding Antifa be
26:07
Speaker 1: strongly investigated under the highest legal standards in practices now.
26:13
Speaker 1: This announcement came in the wake of the assassination of
26:16
Speaker 1: conservative activist Charlie Kirk, which Trump and his allies say
26:20
Speaker 1: underscores the need to address what they characterize as left
26:25
Speaker 1: wing extremism. Now Antifa, you may ask what is it now,
26:29
Speaker 1: They say it's anti fascists. It's not a single group
26:33
Speaker 1: or with a hierarchy structure. In fact, it's a loosely
26:36
Speaker 1: affiliated ideology where people all the time are saying I'm
26:40
Speaker 1: a member of Antifa and then carrying out many times
26:43
Speaker 1: criminal activities. Now, because of the decentralization of it, there's
26:48
Speaker 1: no clear chain of command, which means you have to
26:52
Speaker 1: actually follow the money. Because without formal membership lists or
26:57
Speaker 1: centralized leadership. You've got to find out who is funding
27:01
Speaker 1: Antifa and who on the left is writing the checks
27:04
Speaker 1: for so many of the things that they actually do. Now,
27:07
Speaker 1: there are several significant legal obstacles to make this kind
27:11
Speaker 1: of designation meaningful and also enforceable, and that's exactly what
27:16
Speaker 1: the President is doing right now. In fact, if you
27:20
Speaker 1: want to know when this really became a reality, you
27:23
Speaker 1: can go to the White House in the Oval Office
27:25
Speaker 1: just two days ago, when the President was asked this
27:29
Speaker 1: question about Antifa and what it would mean to designate
27:34
Speaker 1: them a terrorist organization from a member of the press.
27:37
Speaker 1: Take a listen, yes, given PAULI, what's going on with
27:42
Speaker 1: Charlotte Kirk's assassination and is.
27:44
Speaker 5: The left wing of our left wing finance going on?
27:47
Speaker 5: Do you have plans and actually this is a great.
27:50
Speaker 4: Opportunity with all of these other do you plan on
27:53
Speaker 4: designating finally a domestic terrible organization?
27:58
Speaker 5: Well, it's sus some thing I would do. Yeah, if
28:01
Speaker 5: I have support from the people back here, I think
28:03
Speaker 5: would start with Pam, I think, but I would if
28:05
Speaker 5: you give me, I would do that one hundred percent.
28:08
Speaker 5: And others also by the way, but Antifa is terrible.
28:13
Speaker 5: There are other groups, Yeah, there are other groups. We
28:16
Speaker 5: have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder.
28:19
Speaker 5: And also I've been speaking to the Attorney General about
28:23
Speaker 5: bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been
28:25
Speaker 5: reading about that have been putting up millions and millions
28:28
Speaker 5: of dollars for agitation. This is These aren't protests. These
28:31
Speaker 5: are crimes. What they're doing where they're throwing bricks at
28:34
Speaker 5: cars of the of Ice and Border Patrol and they
28:39
Speaker 5: come in a beautiful new car. They're so proud it's
28:41
Speaker 5: Border Patrol Ice. You know, it's got whatever it is,
28:44
Speaker 5: and they're throwing rocks at it. And after fifty yards
28:48
Speaker 5: it looks like an old beat up vehicle. It was
28:50
Speaker 5: just brand new. It's just bought for the purposes. And
28:53
Speaker 5: they don't have to take that anymore. I let it
28:55
Speaker 5: be known, well take responsibility. They don't have to take
28:58
Speaker 5: it anymore, and they don't want to take it. They
29:01
Speaker 5: were told by a past administration. It became almost a culture.
29:07
Speaker 5: If somebody throws a rock at you, do nothing. If
29:10
Speaker 5: somebody spits in your face, do nothing. And I say,
29:14
Speaker 5: when they spit you hit do whatever. You want, you
29:17
Speaker 5: do whatever the hell you want. I watch it. I
29:19
Speaker 5: watched it so sick it made me for four years.
29:22
Speaker 5: I had to said, oh, and watch people screaming at
29:26
Speaker 5: policemen and spitting in their face and they weren't able
29:30
Speaker 5: to do anything. They just had to grin and beard.
29:32
Speaker 5: They're standing up like a piece of steel. And a woman.
29:37
Speaker 5: In many cases women, you can see their professional agitators.
29:40
Speaker 5: I had one the other night. I had four the
29:42
Speaker 5: other night, all in one group, total phonies. I started
29:46
Speaker 5: to scream when I got into a restaurant, Oh, you
29:48
Speaker 5: know something with Palestine. I said, well, I'm doing a
29:51
Speaker 5: great job for peace in the Middle East. I should
29:54
Speaker 5: get lots of awards for that, with the Abraham Accords
29:57
Speaker 5: and everything else. But a woman just stood up and
29:59
Speaker 5: said screaming, and she got booed out of the place.
30:03
Speaker 5: To the people, there are a lot of people in
30:05
Speaker 5: the restaurant. I went there to show how safe, and
30:07
Speaker 5: it was safe. I mean a woman, it's just a mouthpiece. Well,
30:09
Speaker 5: she was a paid shoes, a paid agitator, and you
30:13
Speaker 5: have a lot of them. And I've asked Pam to
30:16
Speaker 5: look into that. In terms of Rico bringing Rico cases
30:19
Speaker 5: against the criminal rico because they should be put in jail.
30:22
Speaker 5: What they're doing to this country is really a subversive.
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Speaker 2: That is where all of this really got started.
30:31
Speaker 1: Now Here is the best part about what this means
30:34
Speaker 1: moving forward. The consequences of this action on Antifa are huge.
30:41
Speaker 2: This will now allow the US government.
30:42
Speaker 1: To increase investigations into individuals or entities that are believed
30:48
Speaker 1: to provide support to Antifa aka money and logistics supplies.
30:54
Speaker 1: Trump specifically asked for these types of investigations. It also
30:58
Speaker 1: outs for potentially executive orders, regulations, policy changes aimed at
31:04
Speaker 1: curbing political violence or hate speech associated with Antifa. And
31:08
Speaker 1: then there's the possible legal or administrative sanctions for those
31:13
Speaker 1: found to be a material support of Antifa if state
31:18
Speaker 1: or federal laws can be invoked. This is where there
31:22
Speaker 1: is real consequences for people that are involved with this
31:26
Speaker 1: radical organization, and you need to find out who is
31:29
Speaker 1: exactly funding them. Follow the money is everything here. Now
31:35
Speaker 1: we can also expect legal challenges groups like the ACLU
31:39
Speaker 1: and the SPLC. They're going to argue that the designation
31:43
Speaker 1: violates constitutional protection, free assembly, free speech, due process, and
31:48
Speaker 1: then the courts are going to have to interpret what
31:51
Speaker 1: designating a terrorist organization means in this context. I think
31:55
Speaker 1: this is clearly a fight the White House is more
31:57
Speaker 1: than happy to have. And then there's the political polarization
32:01
Speaker 1: of this. Democrats are already coming out and saying that
32:05
Speaker 1: this is a threat to free speech. So let's go
32:08
Speaker 1: back to the President and what he actually had to
32:10
Speaker 1: say after designating Antifa a terrorist organization. Here's how CNN
32:15
Speaker 1: put it as they had to read the president's words.
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Speaker 14: Now, i don't know if you know this, but I've
32:21
Speaker 14: just seen that the President on a social media on
32:25
Speaker 14: a social media's announced I'm pleased to inform our many
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Speaker 14: USA patriots that I'm designating Antifa, a sick, dangerous radical
32:32
Speaker 14: left organization, as a major terrorist organization. I'll also be
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Speaker 14: strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in
32:39
Speaker 14: accordance with the highest legal standards and practices.
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Speaker 1: They can't stand the fact that radical organizations that are
32:49
Speaker 1: out there being funded by dark money from democratic donors,
32:52
Speaker 1: they are then committing crimes and terrorizing the public, are
32:56
Speaker 1: no longer going to be able to operate the way
32:58
Speaker 1: they were under the Biden administration. And by the way,
33:02
Speaker 1: this is exactly why I voted for Donald Trump, and
33:05
Speaker 1: I think so many of you did as well. All Right,
33:08
Speaker 1: I want to move to something else. Also, that's really
33:10
Speaker 1: important in something that Donald Trump has been asking for
33:13
Speaker 1: and talking about a lot lately. Donald Trump has repeatedly
33:18
Speaker 1: urged the FED to cut interest rates more aggressively. For example,
33:22
Speaker 1: in June of this year, he called for a full
33:24
Speaker 1: percentage point drop. Also, he said the rates are at
33:28
Speaker 1: least three percentage points too high. Now, Trump had criticized
33:33
Speaker 1: the Fed, especially the chair Jerome Powell, for not cutting
33:37
Speaker 1: sooner or more deeply. He made it very clear he
33:40
Speaker 1: believed that the cuts need to come and it was
33:42
Speaker 1: holding the economy back. He even talked about the idea
33:46
Speaker 1: that it was time to get rid of Jerome Powell,
33:48
Speaker 1: that he should resign. Well, Jerome is still there. But
33:51
Speaker 1: the good news is finally the Feds have cut interest
33:56
Speaker 1: rates by a quarter percentage point. And here's how the
33:59
Speaker 1: news hit on CNN tell.
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Speaker 10: Us about this decision.
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Speaker 13: Matt, Yeah, Brianna, the Fed just delivered an interest rate cut,
34:06
Speaker 13: and it is the quarter point cut that was widely expected.
34:10
Speaker 13: Now this is a big deal because it is the
34:12
Speaker 13: first interest rate cut of the second Trump administration, and
34:16
Speaker 13: it's sending a clear message that Federal Reserve officials are
34:20
Speaker 13: more worried about the slumping job market than they are
34:23
Speaker 13: about stubborn inflation. They're acting now to try to shore
34:29
Speaker 13: up the job market before this trouble turns into something worse,
34:33
Speaker 13: and they're signally this concern in their new statement that
34:36
Speaker 13: they just put out by inserting some new language that
34:38
Speaker 13: I'll read to you now. FED officials say that job
34:41
Speaker 13: gains have slowed and the unemployment rate has edged up
34:45
Speaker 13: but remains low. Fed officials also say that they have
34:50
Speaker 13: judged that downside risks to employment have risen now. At
34:55
Speaker 13: the same time, this statement also says that inflation has
34:59
Speaker 13: moved up up and remains somewhat elevated, which just gets
35:03
Speaker 13: at this really difficult situation facing the FED where they're
35:06
Speaker 13: really trying to fight a two front war, right, They're
35:09
Speaker 13: trying to fix the job market, and they're trying to
35:12
Speaker 13: defeat inflation at the same time. It is really difficult.
35:15
Speaker 5: Now.
35:15
Speaker 13: As far as the voting here, this was actually almost unanimous.
35:19
Speaker 13: It was an eleven to one vote, with Fedschair Jerome
35:22
Speaker 13: Powell joined by ten of his colleagues, including FED Governor
35:27
Speaker 13: Lisa Cook, who the President has tried to fire. The
35:30
Speaker 13: one the center is the Federal Reserve's newest member. That's
35:34
Speaker 13: Stephen Myron, the Trump loyalist and White House economists. Not surprisingly,
35:39
Speaker 13: he was in favor of a bigger cut of half
35:42
Speaker 13: of a percentage point. Now, looking forward, the key change
35:46
Speaker 13: with the Fed's projections is they're now penciling in a
35:50
Speaker 13: total of three interest rate cuts this year. Today's and
35:54
Speaker 13: two more quarter point cuts. Now that's a shift from June,
35:57
Speaker 13: when Fed officials had previously just pencil in two interest
36:01
Speaker 13: rate cuts. Now, what does all this mean to everyone
36:04
Speaker 13: at home? Well, the fact that rates.
36:06
Speaker 5: Have come down.
36:06
Speaker 13: That could be helpful for people who have credit card
36:09
Speaker 13: debt and people of floating rate debt like home equity
36:12
Speaker 13: lines of credit. But we should be clear, this is
36:15
Speaker 13: not a silver bullet that's going to fix the economy.
36:18
Speaker 5: Interest rates do remain high.
36:20
Speaker 13: The Fed spiked interest rates three years ago to try
36:23
Speaker 13: to fight inflation. That amounts it to slamming the brakes
36:27
Speaker 13: on the economy.
36:28
Speaker 2: Now they're not.
36:29
Speaker 13: Going pedal to the metal and hitting the gas. They're
36:31
Speaker 13: sort of gradually taking their foot off the break now
36:35
Speaker 13: later this hour, fed shir Drum Powell, he's gonna take questions.
36:38
Speaker 13: I'm interested to hear what he's going to say about
36:40
Speaker 13: all of the pressure, the political pressure from the White
36:43
Speaker 13: House on federals of officials, and how many more interest
36:47
Speaker 13: rates he expects to have in the coming months.
36:50
Speaker 1: Beck Toy Brian, I love how they're like, well, this
36:53
Speaker 1: could be good for Americans.
36:55
Speaker 2: This is going to be massive, by the way, for Americans.
36:57
Speaker 1: And this is exactly what the President has been advocate
37:00
Speaker 1: heading for, saying that we need to move this in
37:02
Speaker 1: the right direction. We also know from what was said
37:05
Speaker 1: by Powell that you can expect that there is a
37:07
Speaker 1: very good chance that more cuts could be coming on
37:11
Speaker 1: the regular. So is this a victory for all Americans?
37:16
Speaker 2: Yes?
37:17
Speaker 1: Is this the big victory for the fact that Jerome
37:19
Speaker 1: Powell said it the way that he described it, Yes,
37:23
Speaker 1: is it something that we should all celebrate.
37:24
Speaker 2: You better believe it. Jerome Powell in his own words.
37:29
Speaker 14: Under what circumstances would a larger than twenty five basis
37:32
Speaker 14: points rate cup be warranted?
37:34
Speaker 4: And how seriously was that option entertained at your meeting
37:37
Speaker 4: this week? There wasn't widespread support at all for a
37:41
Speaker 4: fifty basis point cut today. You know, I think we've
37:44
Speaker 4: done We've done very large rate hikes and very large
37:47
Speaker 4: rate cuts in the last five years. And you tend
37:50
Speaker 4: to do those at a time when you feel that
37:53
Speaker 4: policy is out of place and needs to move quickly
37:57
Speaker 4: to a new place. That's not at all what I
37:59
Speaker 4: feel certainly now. I feel like our policy has been
38:02
Speaker 4: doing the right thing so far this year. I think
38:04
Speaker 4: we were right to wait and see how tariffs and
38:07
Speaker 4: inflation and the labor market evolved. I think we're now
38:11
Speaker 4: reacting to to the much lower level of job creation
38:15
Speaker 4: and other evidence of softening in the labor market and saying, well,
38:18
Speaker 4: those risks are maybe not fully balanced, but moving in
38:21
Speaker 4: the direction of balance now, and so that warrants a
38:23
Speaker 4: change in policy.
38:25
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38:29
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38:31
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