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Assad Toppled in Syria & Trump Unloads on Media During Interview · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There are two big stories that we're going to hit.
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Speaker 2: One, Donald Trump doing a sit down interview, sit down interview,
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Speaker 2: laying out what he is expecting to do in his
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Speaker 2: first hundred days in office, talking about many of the
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Speaker 2: people that he is nominated into very important positions. And
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Speaker 2: the media of course continuing to be unhinged when they
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Speaker 2: chat with Donald Trump because they can't get him to
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Speaker 2: say what they actually want him to say when they
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Speaker 2: try the quote, I got you questions. But there's also
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Speaker 2: another major, major story, and that is a story about
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Speaker 2: what has happened the fall of Syria's President Alis sade Is. Well,
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Speaker 2: as they said it on TV this morning, it was
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Speaker 2: one of the quote most extraordinary events in history in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen, good morning.
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Speaker 3: As we come on the air this morning, we are
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Speaker 3: tracking one of the most extraordinary events in Middle East
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Speaker 3: history in Syria. Overnight, rebel forces sweeping through the capital
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Speaker 3: city of Damascus, putting an end to the brutal twenty
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Speaker 3: four year dictatorship of Busha Assad. The rebels scenems celebrating
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Speaker 3: the stunning turn of events as people poured into the
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Speaker 3: streets in jubilation.
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Speaker 1: At Assad's fall. This will have a.
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Speaker 3: Profound impact on the region and beyond. With almost all
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Speaker 3: the major global powers involved in Syria's ongoing war, including
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Speaker 3: the US, Syria's allies Russia, Iran and Hezbala, have been
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Speaker 3: weakened and distracted by their own conflicts, leaving Assad with
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Speaker 3: little protection. In a moment, I'll speak to the former
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Speaker 3: commander of US forces in the region, retired General Frank Mackenzie,
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Speaker 3: on what this means, including for the nine hundred US
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Speaker 3: based forces in Syria.
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Speaker 2: Now you hear that intro there, and I think there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of accuracy to this, But I also as
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Speaker 2: much as I'm excited for the people getting rid of Asad,
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Speaker 2: I'm very worried about what the people are about to
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Speaker 2: get with radical Muslim extremists that very well are going
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Speaker 2: to take over that country, and that is something that's
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Speaker 2: very concerning. If you go back and look at history,
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Speaker 2: there was lots of excitement when a guy by the
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Speaker 2: name of Gaddafi and.
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Speaker 1: His brutal dictatorship fell.
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Speaker 2: And he was found hiding in one of those holes
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Speaker 2: where they pulled them out and shot and killed him
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Speaker 2: and drug him through the streets and celebration. The country
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Speaker 2: then turned into total chaos. It has never recovered from
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Speaker 2: that moment when he fell and his government fell, and
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Speaker 2: the world doesn't know what to do. What I worry
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Speaker 2: about now is that this is going to turn into
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Speaker 2: a stronghold for extremists. Yes, it is absolutely correct that
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Speaker 2: these other countries and terrorist groups that were helping Aside
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Speaker 2: be propped up were distracted and had other interests and
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Speaker 2: resources they wanted to focus on instead of him, and
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Speaker 2: that is exactly why he became so vulnerab and they
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Speaker 2: were able to overthrow him. The question now is who
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Speaker 2: is actually going to be in charge and what does
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Speaker 2: this mean. Is there a moment here where you can
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Speaker 2: be happy, yes, of course, but is it also a
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Speaker 2: cautionary tale of what happens when we overthrow or when
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Speaker 2: the people I should say overthrow someone like this. Take
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Speaker 2: a listen to all the excitement on facinination as well.
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Speaker 4: You've been involved with the Syrian opposition for well over
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Speaker 4: a decade. Help us understand what it means to see
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Speaker 4: the regime fall.
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Speaker 5: It's an indescribable feeling of happiness that this regime, this
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Speaker 5: dictator who has made the worst crimes of the twenty
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Speaker 5: first century alongside Russia, and Iran and Isis, all of
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Speaker 5: these horrible people have been defeated by a coalition of
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Speaker 5: rebel forces that did not need any support from any
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Speaker 5: outside country. Not Turkey, no Coatona, not anyone. This time around,
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Speaker 5: Syria was liberated by its people for its people, and
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Speaker 5: it's truly inspired.
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Speaker 6: And it's not just.
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Speaker 5: Good reverberations for Syria, for the Middle Eastern Europe as well.
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Speaker 2: Now, what is interesting about was just said there, because
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Speaker 2: this is true. This was a very much an organic
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Speaker 2: event where they saw an opportunity, they saw a moment,
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Speaker 2: they saw a week assade, They saw his allies who
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Speaker 2: had run the other direction and were not paying attention.
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Speaker 2: The Syrian rebel leader said this on TV as he
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Speaker 2: was being interviewed earlier about the regime, the Asad regime.
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Speaker 7: Listen and your The Iranians attempted to revive the regime,
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Speaker 7: buying its time, and later the Russians also try to
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Speaker 7: promp it up. But the truth remains, this regime is dead.
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Speaker 1: This regime is dead.
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Speaker 2: Now the question is who's going to take over and
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Speaker 2: what does this mean moving forward? You look at the
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Speaker 2: bigger picture here and the rebels declaring Damascus liberated, political
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Speaker 2: prisoners have been released. They are releasing people from prison.
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Speaker 2: That is an amazing thing, especially those that were political prisoners.
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Speaker 2: And as a reporting continues to come in, this is
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Speaker 2: those moments. It feels very much after Gaddafi fell in Libya,
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Speaker 2: where there was this incredible moment of just freedom of excitement.
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Speaker 2: But look at what has happened there since Gaddafi fell.
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Speaker 1: It is in many ways how on Earth.
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Speaker 8: Still but fifty years of authoritarian rule by the Asad
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Speaker 8: family has crumbled in the face of a lightning fast
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Speaker 8: rebel offensive. A statement carried on state TV, the rebels
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Speaker 8: declared they have quote liberated the capital Damascus.
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Speaker 6: I know, I've thought.
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Speaker 8: The rebels scene celebrating on the grounds of the Syrian
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Speaker 8: presidential palace and they are searching, they say for President
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Speaker 8: Basha al Asad, who has not been seen or heard
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Speaker 8: from sincell CNN, that the Syrian military there has fallen.
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Speaker 8: As scenes of chaos unfolded inside Damascus Airport early Sunday,
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Speaker 8: with people rushing to flee the country. Here is what
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Speaker 8: the Syrian Prime Minister had to say about the growing crisis.
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Speaker 9: We are ready to cooperate with any leadership that people choose,
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Speaker 9: offering all possible support to ensure smooth and systematic transition
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Speaker 9: of government functions, preserving state facilities.
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Speaker 8: Well, rebels have been sweeping through the country since launching
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Speaker 8: this offensive last week. They claim to have captured for
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Speaker 8: cities in one day before reaching the capital of Damascus.
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Speaker 8: Well Syrians seeing tearing down and setting fire to posters
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Speaker 8: of the president Assad. Rebels say senior Asad regime of
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Speaker 8: ficials are preparing now to defect in the capital.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 8: To more on this, let's get you live to Paula
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Speaker 8: Hancocks's with me in the studio here in Aberdabi. This
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Speaker 8: is going at lightning speed, so let's just get us
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Speaker 8: a bang up to speed on where we stand at
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Speaker 8: this point. What do we understand to be happening on
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Speaker 8: the ground.
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Speaker 10: So, Becca, we've had the official announcement now from the rebels.
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Speaker 10: They've taken over the state run media to control the narrative.
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Speaker 10: They have come on air and they say that they
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Speaker 10: have liberated Damascus, saying the city of Damascus was liberated,
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Speaker 10: the regime of the tyrant Basha al Assad was toppled,
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Speaker 10: also saying that all the prisoners from the state prisons,
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Speaker 10: they call them political prisoners were also released. Now, what
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Speaker 10: we understand is that the people said that they were
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Speaker 10: going to try and take over key strategic institutions within
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Speaker 10: the city as well. We have seen that they have
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Speaker 10: been on the grounds of one of the presidential palaces.
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Speaker 10: It's very reminiscent of what we've seen in the past
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Speaker 10: when there has been a brutal dict to topple and
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Speaker 10: those who have come to liberate the city have then
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Speaker 10: moved into those particular areas. We have heard from a
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Speaker 10: source familiar with this as well that the rebels are
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Speaker 10: actively looking for vasha Alas said.
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Speaker 2: Now we know that Assad obviously has fled the country.
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Speaker 1: He is now a sylum.
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Speaker 2: They've given him asylum in Russia, which actually makes a
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Speaker 2: lot of sense based on what we know about that relationship.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's been sifling off money for years, probably
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Speaker 2: to Russia, making sure that he had more than enough
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Speaker 2: to take care of him if he ever had to
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Speaker 2: leave the country. And there's no telling what all he
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Speaker 2: has sent to Russia from Syria, so it to be
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Speaker 2: four three two five. Now there's a guy by the
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Speaker 2: He'll go on any network that will have him on
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Speaker 2: there because he hates On Trump. I remember, this is
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Speaker 2: the same scumbag that went and worked for Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: and then when he didn't, when Donald Trump didn't listen
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Speaker 2: you down and use a deep state against you and
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Speaker 2: to attack you and to undermine you every single step
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Speaker 2: of the way.
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Speaker 1: That that is no different than what he did right here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's it's.
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Speaker 2: Exact same thing. It's what you should expect. And he's
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Speaker 2: not the only one, by the way, that's going to
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Speaker 2: do this. There's going to be a lot that are
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Speaker 2: going to do this. I want you to understand. This
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Speaker 2: is the politics and how the politics will play out.
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Speaker 2: The politics are going to play out this way, and
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Speaker 2: anything to deal with foreign policy UH is going to
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Speaker 2: play in this way on TV and they're gonna use
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Speaker 2: it to do whatever they can to undermine, to attack,
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Speaker 2: to go after any person that Trump wants, So be
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Speaker 2: prepared for this type of BS.
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Speaker 1: Now, I want you to listen to Bolton.
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Speaker 2: Now, this is as the regime is falling, This is
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Speaker 2: as people are trying to flee Syria. This is in
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Speaker 2: Damascus specifically, this is as we're finding out that decade
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Speaker 2: is in Russia.
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Speaker 1: And what does Bolton do?
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Speaker 2: He used it to attack Donald Trump and specifically Toulsi Gabbard.
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Speaker 2: And notice how the media sets him up for the question.
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Speaker 2: They're not talking about what's actually happened in the real
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Speaker 2: breaking news in Syria. They're like, all right, how do
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Speaker 2: we somehow turn what just happened in Syria into something
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Speaker 2: bad for Donald Trump?
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Speaker 11: Listen, as I think the success of the rebels has
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Speaker 11: caught pretty much everybody's supported by some prize, including in Washington.
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Speaker 12: And I want to ask you about Trump's pick for
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Speaker 12: the Director of National Intelligence, Tulci Gabbard, a former congresswoman.
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Speaker 12: She met with Presidentissan back in twenty seventeen. Nearly one
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Speaker 12: hundred former national security officials are urging a full review
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Speaker 12: of the governor our government. The US Governments files on Gabbard.
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Speaker 12: Are you concerned about her ties to the Syrian regime,
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Speaker 12: her potential ties to Russia, in what power she might
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Speaker 12: hold if confirmed by the Senate.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think she's totally unqualified to be a DNI,
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Speaker 11: and I think her positions put her beyond the outer
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Speaker 11: most fringe of American politics. When she visited Aside in Syria,
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Speaker 11: he was effectively a Russian Iranian ally, And what she
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Speaker 11: said about the Syria not being a direct threat to
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Speaker 11: the United States, that was her justification for going. It's
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Speaker 11: completely false. The Syrians and their combination with Iran and
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Speaker 11: Hasbala have posed direct threats to Americans across the region.
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Speaker 1: They certainly pose a.
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Speaker 11: Direct threat to key American allies Israel and Jordan.
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Speaker 1: And it's going to be.
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Speaker 11: Very interesting to see what the files that may be
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Speaker 11: uncovered in the Syrian government if the rebels succeed in
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Speaker 11: capturing Damascus, what they show about a number of Americans.
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Speaker 1: So there it is.
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Speaker 2: All of this is we're going to use this moment,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to use this opportunity to then attack
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Speaker 2: or somehow slander Donald Trump or anybody. We can't and
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Speaker 2: by the way, toldsy Gabbert, I have no problem with
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Speaker 2: her answering that question. For confirmation, like, hey, when you
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Speaker 2: met with a sad what was that for. Let me
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Speaker 2: also remind you Donald Trump said, I'll basically meet with
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Speaker 2: any bad guy anywhere. I'll meet with Keim Jong Ung,
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Speaker 2: I don't give a crap. I'll meet with Vladimir Putin
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Speaker 2: because what he understood was isolationism doesn't always work. And
13:54
Speaker 2: if you're the president United into America, what's wrong with
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Speaker 2: having a conversation to dial down the miscommunications that could
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Speaker 2: lead to a war. Because he understands that people die
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Speaker 2: in war. He understands that there is really no harm
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Speaker 2: in meeting someone like Kim Jong ung or talking to
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Speaker 2: someone like an assad because it may actually save lives.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're doing a deal. And notice how Bolton
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Speaker 2: there did exactly what the deep state did against Trump
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Speaker 2: last time.
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Speaker 1: And the media did it too. There they lied to you.
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Speaker 2: They're like, well, you know she has these direct connections
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Speaker 2: to Asade. Meeting with the world leaders should not be
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Speaker 2: held against you. Now, if you conspire with a bad
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Speaker 2: actor and a world leader, that's a different conversation. But
14:47
Speaker 2: meeting with a world leader should not be held against you.
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Speaker 2: I think that's what leaders do. You meet with other leaders,
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Speaker 2: and then you try to read the room and you
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Speaker 2: try to figure it out out, you try to understand
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Speaker 2: what's going on, like this is not that hard, and
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Speaker 2: you try to learn and figure out. And it's a
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Speaker 2: really high stakes game of chess, if you want to
15:14
Speaker 2: just call it what it is. And I am in
15:17
Speaker 2: favor of meeting with leaders, especially the worst, because if
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Speaker 2: it can help save lives, or you can gain an edge,
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Speaker 2: or you can understand or dial things back and save
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Speaker 2: lives that way, there's nothing wrong from having that meeting.
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Speaker 2: But the media just put out there that narrative, well,
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Speaker 2: she may have ties to Russia.
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Speaker 1: Notice how that right?
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Speaker 2: Because they're saying, well, Asad has ties to Russia, so
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Speaker 2: therefore her Tolsi meeting with Asad means she may now
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Speaker 2: be a stooge.
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Speaker 1: Of the Russian government. That's what they're wanting you to believe.
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Speaker 2: And I want to play that for you so you
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Speaker 2: understand just how corrupt the media is. I want you
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Speaker 1: Wasn't taking the bait.
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Speaker 2: how much we are funding compared to other countries. And
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Speaker 2: so what's the point of being in NATO if we're
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Speaker 2: the ones that are doing it? It's a scam. Do
19:11
Speaker 2: you want to know how much money we fund of NATO?
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Speaker 2: NATO member states spending as a percentage of combined spending,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the countries compared to the US,
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Speaker 2: Russia seventy point five.
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Speaker 1: All right, let me rephrase that.
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Speaker 2: The US seventy point five percent is NATO funding UK
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Speaker 2: five point four, France four point seven, Germany four point seven, Italy.
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Speaker 1: Two point six, Canada two point one.
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Speaker 2: When you look at that number the NATO member states
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Speaker 2: spending as a percentage of combined spending, seventy point five
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Speaker 2: percent is coming from the US, compared to five to
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Speaker 2: four for UK, four to seven for France, four to
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Speaker 2: seven for Germany, two six for Italy and two point
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Speaker 2: one for the cheap government in Canada. Why the hell
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Speaker 2: are we involved in an organization that we're propping up
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Speaker 2: like this?
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Speaker 1: It makes no sense at all. And what did Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump say?
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Speaker 2: And they're trying to act like this is some sort
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Speaker 2: of reckless doctrine. Listen to Trump in his own words.
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Speaker 4: Sir, will the United States stay in NATO while you're
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Speaker 4: in office anywhere NATO? Do you commit that the United
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Speaker 4: States will remain a member of NATO while you're in office?
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Speaker 13: Again, they have to pay their bills. If they pay
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Speaker 13: their bills.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, but not if they don't pay their bills.
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Speaker 13: But NATO's take an advantage of us, because we would
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Speaker 13: go Look two things. Number one, they take advantage of
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Speaker 13: us on trade, meaning the European nations. Okay, like terrible.
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Speaker 13: They don't take our cars, they don't take our food products,
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Speaker 13: they don't take anything they take. It's a disgrace. And
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Speaker 13: on top of that, we defend them. So it's a
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Speaker 13: double whemmy. So let me just tell you. I was
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Speaker 13: able to get hundreds of billions of dollars put into
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Speaker 13: NATO just by a tough attitude. I said to the countries,
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Speaker 13: I'm not going to check you unless you pay, and
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Speaker 13: they started paying, and that amounted to the more than
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Speaker 13: six hundred billion dollars.
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Speaker 6: That's a big thing. Otherwise they wouldn't even be fighting.
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Speaker 13: They wouldn't have any money to fight if they're paying
21:10
Speaker 13: their bills, and if I think they're doing a fair
21:13
Speaker 13: they're treating us fairly.
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Speaker 6: The answers, absolutely, I'd stay with Naana.
21:17
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem complicated or controversial, seems actually extremely responsible
21:23
Speaker 2: and reasonable.
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Speaker 1: So why is the media losing their minds over this?
21:26
Speaker 2: Because they want to turn this into Donald Trump's going
21:28
Speaker 2: to start World War three? Donald Trump doing a big
21:33
Speaker 2: sit down interview getting ready for his administration. You know
21:37
Speaker 2: what happens when Donald Trump does sit downs, especially after
21:41
Speaker 2: he's won the presidential election, He's like, ask me anything
21:43
Speaker 2: you want to write, ask me anything you want to
21:47
Speaker 2: ask me. You may not like my answers, but ask
21:51
Speaker 2: me whatever the hell you want to ask me, and
21:52
Speaker 2: I will answer it.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what he did. And Mayo, my has
21:57
Speaker 1: the media freaked out over this?
21:59
Speaker 2: Donald Trump up was asked specifically about illegal immigrants. Well,
22:04
Speaker 2: you know, mister president, you're not really president, Like, you're
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Speaker 2: not going to actually deport everybody you said your regard
22:09
Speaker 2: to your line to the American people.
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Speaker 1: That's not really going to happen. That's not real.
22:13
Speaker 2: Okay, listen to Donald Trump's back and forth. If you
22:16
Speaker 2: think he's not serious about deporting illegal immigant, especially the criminals,
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Speaker 2: you're not paying attention America.
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Speaker 1: Listen to him.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about mass deportation, one of your big agenda items.
22:27
Speaker 4: You've talked about prioritizing people who have criminal histories. Correct,
22:31
Speaker 4: But is it your plan to deport everyone who is
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Speaker 4: here illegally over the next four years.
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Speaker 13: Well, I think you have to do it, and it's
22:39
Speaker 13: a it's a very tough thing to do. It's but
22:44
Speaker 13: you have to have you know, you have rules, regulations
22:46
Speaker 13: law as they came in illegally. You know, the people
22:48
Speaker 13: that have been treated very unfairly are the people that
22:51
Speaker 13: have been online for ten years to come into the country.
22:53
Speaker 13: And we're going to make it very easy for people
22:55
Speaker 13: to come in in terms of they have to pass
22:57
Speaker 13: the test. They have to be able to tell you
22:59
Speaker 13: what the statue of liberty is. They have to tell
23:01
Speaker 13: you a little bit about our country. They have to
23:04
Speaker 13: love our country. They can't come out of prisons. We
23:06
Speaker 13: don't want people that are in for murder. So we
23:09
Speaker 13: had eleven thousand and thirteen thousand different estimates thirteen thousand
23:13
Speaker 13: and ninety nine murderers released into our country over the
23:17
Speaker 13: last three years. They're walking down the streets, they're walking
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Speaker 13: next to you and your family, and they're very dangerous.
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Speaker 4: Thirteen thousand figure I think goes back about forty good.
23:26
Speaker 13: No, it doesn't know it's within the three year period.
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Speaker 6: It's during the Biden term.
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Speaker 13: Now that was a fiction that they put that out.
23:32
Speaker 6: This was done by the Border Patrol.
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Speaker 13: It's thirteen thousand and ninety nine and it's during the
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Speaker 13: Biden period of time. And these are murderers, many of
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Speaker 13: who murdered more than one person.
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Speaker 6: You don't want those people in this country.
23:45
Speaker 4: But you're saying something, sir, that's significance. I just want
23:49
Speaker 4: to make sure I'm clear, which is that you're saying, Yes,
23:51
Speaker 4: you're going to focus on the people with criminal histories,
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Speaker 4: but everyone who's here illegally has to go.
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Speaker 13: I'm saying, we have to get the criminals out of
23:58
Speaker 13: our country, have to get people that were taken out
24:01
Speaker 13: of mental institutions and put them back into their mental institution,
24:05
Speaker 13: no matter what country it is. Do you know that Venezuela,
24:08
Speaker 13: their prisons are at the lowest point in terms of
24:12
Speaker 13: emptiness that they've ever been they're taking their people out
24:16
Speaker 13: of those prisons by the thousands, and they're drug and
24:19
Speaker 13: just to get back because they know exactly what you're getting.
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Speaker 13: At number one, we're doing criminals, and we're going to
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Speaker 13: do them really rapidly. We're getting the worst gang probably
24:29
Speaker 13: with MS thirteen and the Venezuelan gangs are the worst
24:33
Speaker 13: in the world. They're vicious, violent people, and you see
24:36
Speaker 13: what they've done in Colorado and other places. They're taking
24:38
Speaker 13: over literally taking over apartment complexes and doing it with impunity.
24:43
Speaker 13: They don't care, they couldn't. They just are taking They're
24:46
Speaker 13: in the real estate.
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Speaker 4: You know, the local police say that is not the
24:49
Speaker 4: case in Colorado.
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Speaker 6: Oh, it's totally the case. I mean the local polty.
24:53
Speaker 6: I play it.
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Speaker 13: I used to play it at my rallies every single night. No,
24:57
Speaker 13: they're breaking into doors, they're taking over the building.
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Speaker 1: Are you by the way, the.
25:01
Speaker 13: Police, the police are afraid to do anything.
25:04
Speaker 4: You raise the point that the logistics are complicated.
25:07
Speaker 6: You say to yourself, what everything's gone?
25:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you need twenty four times more ice
25:11
Speaker 4: attention capacity just to deport one million people per year,
25:15
Speaker 4: not to mention more agents, more judges, more planes, is
25:18
Speaker 4: it realistic to deport everyone who's Jews?
25:21
Speaker 13: First of all, they're costing us a fortune. But we're
25:24
Speaker 13: starting with the criminals and we got to do it,
25:27
Speaker 13: and then we're starting with others, and we're going to.
25:30
Speaker 6: See how it goes. The others.
25:32
Speaker 13: Others are other people. Outside of criminals. We have convicted murders.
25:36
Speaker 13: We don't mean people that are even on trial. We
25:39
Speaker 13: have people that have murdered numerous people are on our
25:43
Speaker 13: streets and in our farms, and we have to get
25:45
Speaker 13: them out of our country.
25:47
Speaker 2: Don't you wish that they would she would actually defend
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Speaker 2: the American people Christian Welker as much as she defends
25:53
Speaker 2: the illegal immigrants on NBC. Wouldn't it be nice if
25:58
Speaker 2: she would just defy fend the American citizens as much
26:02
Speaker 2: as she cares about the people that are breaking your laws.
26:05
Speaker 2: Like what other people It's like, well, people that have
26:08
Speaker 2: committed Hanes' crimes, people have been convicted of murdering like
26:12
Speaker 2: that too, Like these are bad people. You should want
26:18
Speaker 2: them to go, and the American people want them gone.
26:22
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he knows us about the dreamers, right, And
26:26
Speaker 2: so I want to dissect that part of this down too,
26:29
Speaker 2: is Donald Trump going to be a heartless person that
26:32
Speaker 2: just rounding up people left and right. No, he's gonna
26:35
Speaker 2: be rounding up the bad guys left and right. Hell yeah,
26:38
Speaker 2: But what does Trump say about the dreamers? And you
26:42
Speaker 2: need to know this. There's some of you, by the way,
26:44
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be happy about Trump's answer. There's some
26:46
Speaker 2: that believe that if you're in this country illegally, regardless
26:49
Speaker 2: of how you got here, you should be deported.
26:52
Speaker 1: There's others that say, look.
26:54
Speaker 2: If you're in this country illegally, but you're brought here
26:56
Speaker 2: against your will, like you're you're a kid, you can't
26:59
Speaker 2: stand up to your parents when you're six weeks old
27:01
Speaker 2: or six months old or four years old. Right, your
27:06
Speaker 2: parents come into America illegally, and you're a dreamer, you
27:09
Speaker 2: come in here, that's not your decision. Am I in
27:12
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Speaker 2: Now let me go back to what I was saying
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Speaker 1: What does Trump say about the dreamers? Take a listen.
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Speaker 4: So dreamers who were brought to this country illegally as children.
29:37
Speaker 4: You said once back in twenty seventeen, they quote, shouldn't
29:40
Speaker 4: be very worried about being deported? Should they be worried?
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Speaker 6: Now?
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Speaker 13: The dreamers are going to come later, and we have
29:47
Speaker 13: to do something about the dreamers because these are people
29:49
Speaker 13: that have been brought here at a very young age.
29:52
Speaker 13: And many of these are middle aged people now. They
29:55
Speaker 13: don't even speak the language of their country. And yes,
29:58
Speaker 13: we're going to do something about this.
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Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
30:00
Speaker 13: I will work with the Democrats on a plan, and
30:02
Speaker 13: we can come up with a plant. But the Democrats
30:04
Speaker 13: have made it very, very difficult to do anything. Republicans
30:07
Speaker 13: are very open to the dreamers. The dreamers we're talking
30:11
Speaker 13: many years ago. They were brought into this country many
30:13
Speaker 13: years ago. Some of them are no longer young people,
30:17
Speaker 13: and in many cases they've become successful. They have great jobs.
30:22
Speaker 13: In some cases they have small businesses, some cases they
30:24
Speaker 13: might have large businesses.
30:26
Speaker 6: And we're going to have to do something with them.
30:29
Speaker 4: And you want them to be able to stay, that's
30:31
Speaker 4: what you're saying.
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Speaker 6: I do.
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Speaker 13: I want to be able to work something out, and
30:34
Speaker 13: it should have been able to be worked out over
30:36
Speaker 13: the last three or four years, and it never got
30:38
Speaker 13: worked out. You know, Biden could have done it because
30:40
Speaker 13: he controlled you know, Congress to a certain extent, right,
30:44
Speaker 13: he could have done something, but they didn't do it.
30:46
Speaker 13: I never understood why, because they always seem to want
30:48
Speaker 13: to do it. But then when it comes down to it,
30:50
Speaker 13: they don't. I think we can work with the Democrats
30:52
Speaker 13: and work something out.
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Speaker 2: You notice how he says Republicans, many of us want
30:58
Speaker 2: the dreamers to be able to stay. The problem is
31:01
Speaker 2: the Democrats refuse to do a deal that isolates the
31:04
Speaker 2: Dreamers without giving amnesty to a significant.
31:08
Speaker 1: Number of people. That's the problem.
31:12
Speaker 2: Democrats won't just do something as they've been offered to
31:16
Speaker 2: protect Dreamers, only they want to make sure they're handing
31:20
Speaker 2: out amnesty to all sorts of illegal immigrants, to dreamers,
31:23
Speaker 2: parents to dreamers, kids, to you know that may not
31:26
Speaker 2: have been born here.
31:27
Speaker 1: If they're born here, they're American citizens, it's a non issue.
31:29
Speaker 2: But what they want to do is they want to
31:31
Speaker 2: hand out amnesty to everyone. That's the problem. They want
31:36
Speaker 2: to hand out amnesty to every illegal immigrant. And so
31:40
Speaker 2: when Donald Trump's like, we want to get a deal done,
31:42
Speaker 2: but Democrats are very hard to work with, he's not.
31:46
Speaker 2: He's he's not embellishing that at all. He's absolutely right.
31:51
Speaker 2: I actually believe the majority of Conservatives are very compassionate
31:54
Speaker 2: towards Dreamers. What they're not okay with is handing out
31:58
Speaker 2: anesty to just everyone that broke into the country. And
32:01
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest part that Donald Trump was
32:03
Speaker 2: saying there in that interview. Notice how cool, calm and
32:06
Speaker 2: collected he was. By the way, in that conversation.
32:08
Speaker 1: Did you notice that?
32:09
Speaker 2: Did you notice how calm he was so much for
32:12
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