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Kim Coles, Roxanne Shanté, Sam Sifton & Marion Mays · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: to New York City back in the day when I
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Speaker 1: was out there. We both were struggling back then, trying
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Speaker 1: to tell people how funny we could be. My Necklace
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Speaker 1: is the best selling author of four books and she
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Speaker 1: travels the globe sharing love and laughter. She is an actress, comedian, speaker,
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Speaker 1: cos it is a delight and an honor to be
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Speaker 1: here with you, Ki. You know, it's really great. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, uh, we all go through long careers, and
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Speaker 1: I think a long career being able to reinvent yourself,
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Speaker 1: being able to extend multiple levels of income. Because that's
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Speaker 1: basically what your intro was saying. You traveling, you speaking,
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Speaker 1: You're motivating, your coaching, and now on your your social
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Speaker 1: media team is really are defining a different path for you.
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Speaker 1: Are as a path I just became aware of. Tell
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Speaker 1: us every tell everybody, let's set up on what you
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Speaker 1: involved with community? Oh yes, well let me give a
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Speaker 1: little context. So yes, I'm an actors and a comedian
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Speaker 1: and all of those things. And I've been in the business,
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Speaker 1: you know, like you was saying, thirty five years, that's
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Speaker 1: how long ago. I'm sure we met way back then,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's when I started in New York. But
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Speaker 1: the thing is, it came a point where I was
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Speaker 1: sitting around waiting for auditions and that puts the power
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Speaker 1: in someone else's hands, and I really wanted to put
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Speaker 1: the power on my own. And so I thought to myself,
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Speaker 1: and this is a long story, but I thought to myself,
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Speaker 1: what can I do that is outside of the realm
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Speaker 1: of waiting for someone to give me something? And the
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Speaker 1: trick was using my own gifts and talents. And I
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Speaker 1: want people to hear that you can do that too.
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Speaker 1: You can use all the gifts and talents that you
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Speaker 1: have been given and that you have developed and that
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Speaker 1: Because I was looking for my gift and it's gratitude, intention, forgiveness,
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Speaker 1: triumphs and self love. I believe that those are so
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Speaker 1: isn't that good principles that you need to develop your
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Speaker 1: gifts ands. So that was a program, and then it
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Speaker 1: eventually evolved into what I call my community. Hey, I
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Speaker 1: am you and I t y um and I have
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Speaker 1: And so this is where I take people on a
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Speaker 1: really on a journey that's really the journey that I've
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Speaker 1: been on to developing myself personally. For all that personal development,
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Speaker 1: you know, really asking yourself the hard questions, getting an
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Speaker 1: action about your life, your spirituality, your health and your
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Speaker 1: well being. And on the other side, the business side,
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Speaker 1: how do I want to um um build my buns?
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Speaker 1: What can I do? How can I serve people? And
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Speaker 1: all of that, And so I speak, I teach, I
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Speaker 1: coach and I love it and I gotta tell you
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Speaker 1: it's ten times better than an audition. And do I
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Speaker 1: still audition, yes, you know. You know. The interesting thing
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Speaker 1: about your story is that the first thing the Pops
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Speaker 1: was controlled, and so many people are even though they
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Speaker 1: have a daily job that they go to, they don't
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Speaker 1: feel there's any control because you don't know, there's no
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Speaker 1: guarantee with their job, or is there any guarantee of
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Speaker 1: the the atmosphere that you're walking into because a lot
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Speaker 1: of people bring their bad days to work and so
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Speaker 1: and I remember early on when Steve Harving I got
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Speaker 1: to gether in two thousand, I did his first radio contract,
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Speaker 1: and one of the reasons we did that radio contract
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Speaker 1: was that we wanted to control our destiny because I
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Speaker 1: guess what that was a regular check every week, so
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Speaker 1: we didn't have to worry about auditions because we had
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Speaker 1: to check. And it really calmed us down. It really
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Speaker 1: calmed us down. But on the other side, people thought
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Speaker 1: we were taking a step back. You know, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's not doing movies. He's not he's not doing these
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Speaker 1: concert tools. You know, Oh, because I was right after
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Speaker 1: he did. He had performed the Kings of Common and
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Speaker 1: everybody was blowing up on Kings of Common and Steve
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Speaker 1: was benefited as well, benefit as well. What I what
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Speaker 1: I love, And I just want to share that story
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Speaker 1: on my side because I understand exactly what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: You can be successful, but you may not be in control,
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Speaker 1: right and and you know, for me, it was just
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Speaker 1: finding an area of where can I be in control?
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Speaker 1: Where can I guide the guide my destiny, not ultimately
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Speaker 1: for me. And I think you'll understand this that the
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Speaker 1: audience is your ultimate uh you know, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: the judge, the jury, and the executioner, meaning you have
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Speaker 1: to please those people. And I gotta tell you, I
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Speaker 1: remember you. You know you guys did that. You know
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Speaker 1: what we talked now about branding, right, you did that
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Speaker 1: way back when before anybody like regular folks will talk
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Speaker 1: about it. Certainly the people on Madison Avenue was talking
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Speaker 1: about it. But you set Uh, you set him, and
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Speaker 1: you all set the team in a position of power
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Speaker 1: and control and so that the industry was coming to you.
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Speaker 1: When I wanted to promote something, I wanted to come
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Speaker 1: to you. And so anyone who's listening to this, this
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Speaker 1: is not just a show bise conversation. It's about looking
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Speaker 1: at your as I said, your gifts and talent, and
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Speaker 1: looking at what you can set up for yourself so
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Speaker 1: that you create something where people will come to you.
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Speaker 1: They will come to you for what you what you have,
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Speaker 1: what wisdom you have, what you what learning you have.
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Speaker 1: I say that I've been in this business for thirty
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Speaker 1: five years. I now want to teach all that I've learned.
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Speaker 1: So I now take people on a journey that I've
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Speaker 1: been on myself. I've cleared the path and I can
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Speaker 1: help you know. You know, I like to call it
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Speaker 1: lift as my client, so as I build to the
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Speaker 1: next level, in the next level, I'm lifting people and
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Speaker 1: taking people along with me. And that's exactly what you
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Speaker 1: all did. And you said, a beautiful template in place
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Speaker 1: that had not been done. We know, it's really interesting,
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Speaker 1: thank you. You know, because about branding, I was I
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Speaker 1: was honored and uh for being a Personal Manager of
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Speaker 1: the Year, and a lot of the individuals, like William
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Speaker 1: who just got Rashaan McDonald's. But he changed the game,
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Speaker 1: he said, because and the reason I was able to
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Speaker 1: do that because I worked at IBM and I when
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Speaker 1: I was sitting I would talk to Steve. I said,
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Speaker 1: why can't we treat you like a business. Why can't
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Speaker 1: we treat you like a corporation, because you know, they
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Speaker 1: brand cars, they brand Hamburgers, they brand clothes. Let's just
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Speaker 1: treat you as an individual or like a brand. And
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Speaker 1: you know, he understood what I was saying. He trusted
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Speaker 1: me because of the fact that at that point I
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Speaker 1: just had to associate him with other brands like this
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Speaker 1: fo home depot. And that's why, you know, when I
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Speaker 1: started seeing your post and social media, I got excited
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Speaker 1: because I go, she gets it, she understands because now
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Speaker 1: she's using her brand to help other people understand that
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Speaker 1: this is how you make it. You have to shout
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Speaker 1: it out. Especially with social media allows you to be
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. You don't have to you don't have to
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Speaker 1: to sell your brand, tell your story. And I just
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Speaker 1: got excited him. You have to be excited right now
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Speaker 1: with this amount of information you've being able to distribute
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Speaker 1: based on the fact of who you are. I'm able
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Speaker 1: to use uh free outlets and of course you can
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Speaker 1: buy ads and we can talk about that later. It's free,
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Speaker 1: it's it's accessible. You go straight to the people. I
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Speaker 1: don't need a producer. I don't need you know, her
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Speaker 1: executives or network executive to temmy yay or nay, or
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Speaker 1: say the line the way we wrote it. I do
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Speaker 1: what I do, like chapping to my gifts some talents.
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Speaker 1: I asked my audience what I want, and I tap
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Speaker 1: into what I have that I want to give and share.
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Speaker 1: And it has been wonderful that you know, I should
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Speaker 1: make a list of all of the I couldn't make
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Speaker 1: a list, is what I should say of all the
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Speaker 1: what I have received back just by putting myself out there,
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Speaker 1: everything from a trip to Africa that's upcoming, everything from
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Speaker 1: speaking gigs. You know, people see you and then they
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Speaker 1: hire you. And again. It happens for me because I'm
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote celebrity or in the public eye, but
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Speaker 1: it can happen forever for lots of people. I'm following
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Speaker 1: the model of people who did this who weren't celebrities.
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Speaker 1: expert or as a go to voice, and then you
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Speaker 1: get seen, you get hired, you get to and you
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Speaker 1: get customers and clients. I'm so glad I figured that
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Speaker 1: out because my peers, a lot of my peers are
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Speaker 1: sitting on greatness because they're waiting for They're waiting for
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Speaker 1: the next their next big show. Look. Look, I was
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Speaker 1: on a show that was number one in African American
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Speaker 1: people's households. But we know that's the statistics that they
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Speaker 1: I'm not waiting for the reboot. People want to reboot,
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Speaker 1: the that's the cherry on top. Let me just tell
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Speaker 1: that right there engages me. It engages with Sean McDonald.
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Speaker 1: Can I just can I get what she's eating? Can I?
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Speaker 1: Can I go where she's partying? Can I travel with her?
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Speaker 1: Can I listen to her? So it's also what we
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Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. I just started using LinkedIn. Listen, anybody who's
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Speaker 1: sleeping on LinkedIn, you're missing a treasure trove of gold
19:00
Speaker 1: mine of contact. Now different from the other social media's
19:03
Speaker 1: it's it's a you know site that it really is
19:06
Speaker 1: about business. It's a little bit more serious, purchase a
19:09
Speaker 1: lot more serious, but that's where the money is. And
19:11
Speaker 1: I love I love that. I love that. You know,
19:13
Speaker 1: it's so funny. It's just it's just so funny. You're
19:17
Speaker 1: an expert, you know, that's what you're You're an influencer
19:19
Speaker 1: because you're saying all the right things and I'm going like, hey,
19:22
Speaker 1: she's absolutely telling you you're true. You know you don't
19:25
Speaker 1: have no no no no cake pictures and no side
19:28
Speaker 1: angle pictures and no boyfriend girlfriend pictures and no party
19:32
Speaker 1: pictures on LinkedIn. You know you it's an industry based
19:37
Speaker 1: concept where if you got something going on, you want
19:39
Speaker 1: to share it and you don't have to have a
19:41
Speaker 1: large following to get to get information out either. That's
19:45
Speaker 1: what I love about it too, because streams and people
19:49
Speaker 1: find you and and let me ask you to because
19:52
Speaker 1: that's where that's what we reconnected. We reconnected on linked In.
19:55
Speaker 1: And I mean, like several months I've been I've just
19:57
Speaker 1: been looking at you, going this girl here, this girl here,
20:01
Speaker 1: and so you know, you go through you go through Thanksgiving,
20:03
Speaker 1: you go through Christmas, and then I said, I told
20:05
Speaker 1: my team, I said, hey, I gotta get out of
20:07
Speaker 1: favorwhek I I said, I see what she's doing and
20:10
Speaker 1: the people she trying she's trying to reach. We need
20:13
Speaker 1: to reach them in the first quarter. We'll fix them now,
20:16
Speaker 1: get him motivated, get their life right. And so that's
20:19
Speaker 1: what you're doing you. You know, I'm just I'm so
20:21
Speaker 1: excited talking to you because of the fact that it's
20:24
Speaker 1: so happy to reconnect to you. Because you know, I
20:28
Speaker 1: said just to you earlier, I don't network as well
20:30
Speaker 1: as I should. You know, there's some people that have
20:32
Speaker 1: the gift of networking, but the way they stay afloat
20:35
Speaker 1: is they they stay in contact with all the movers
20:39
Speaker 1: and shakers, and I'm not as good as it. I
20:42
Speaker 1: get overwhelmed because I'm busy. I'm one of those people.
20:44
Speaker 1: I get the trenches and I just start digging, and
20:46
Speaker 1: I started networking. I look up every once in a while,
20:48
Speaker 1: like I don't even go to Hollywood parties that much.
20:51
Speaker 1: I don't network. And so I'm I realized now that
20:54
Speaker 1: I'm missing I missed years of being able to network
20:57
Speaker 1: with you. I don't know how smart you are I've
21:00
Speaker 1: been around you and watch the moves you were making,
21:02
Speaker 1: but I didn't stay connected. And so this is a
21:04
Speaker 1: lesson for me, a reminder for me. And you talked
21:07
Speaker 1: about investing in yourself, investing in your time. One of
21:11
Speaker 1: the ways you invest in yourself is you stay plugged
21:13
Speaker 1: in with people who are plugged in in like minded ventures.
21:18
Speaker 1: And so I don't need to I'll be honest with you.
21:21
Speaker 1: I don't need to go to the parties with the
21:22
Speaker 1: reality stars. I can't cute and it's funny and it's
21:26
Speaker 1: a nice distraction, but it's not where I want to go.
21:29
Speaker 1: I want to live real reality. My reality is very
21:33
Speaker 1: different than throwing a drink in a sister's face. That's
21:35
Speaker 1: my life. Would I hang out with be plugged in
21:40
Speaker 1: to people who are doing work like you? And that's
21:42
Speaker 1: a message to everyone here. Really surround yourself with the
21:45
Speaker 1: people who are going to places you want to go.
21:47
Speaker 1: This is what are you dropping videos? Because you're dropping
21:50
Speaker 1: you dropping balls, dimes, missiles. Uh, you know aircraft carrying
21:56
Speaker 1: molls on my show, girl, you're dropping them on this show.
21:59
Speaker 1: If you so, I'm talking about because you articulate you
22:02
Speaker 1: you're not You're not breaking stride. You know, all this
22:05
Speaker 1: is a promptu because you're in your zone or you
22:08
Speaker 1: dropping like sixty second videos or your social but you
22:11
Speaker 1: got to start doing that. Yeah, you gotta got to
22:16
Speaker 1: the things are about. We're doing some things behind the scenes.
22:18
Speaker 1: What you saw was just me just getting started, and
22:22
Speaker 1: what you see is what we just be getting started.
22:24
Speaker 1: So the sixty second videos are coming the the LinkedIn
22:28
Speaker 1: as soon as I get the ability to go live
22:30
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. It's over. Yes, it is, Yes, it is.
22:33
Speaker 1: I kid you not. I'm not. I'm telling you the truth.
22:36
Speaker 1: I'm telling you see I see you know, I see
22:38
Speaker 1: Facebook watching your future, young lady. I'm just letting you know.
22:41
Speaker 1: You know, it's some stuff out there waiting on you
22:43
Speaker 1: because of the fact that because because you know, the
22:47
Speaker 1: thing about it is that everything in life is transitional,
22:50
Speaker 1: you know. So because I love reason, I'm so excited
22:53
Speaker 1: about you because this is a voice. First of all,
22:56
Speaker 1: it feels very natural, and you've always entertained, You've always knows.
23:00
Speaker 1: You always know how to speak, you know how to
23:02
Speaker 1: control of room. You know, intimitivated by walking in and
23:04
Speaker 1: seeing thousands of strangers in front of you. But the
23:08
Speaker 1: fact that you're articulating a support system for everyday people.
23:12
Speaker 1: That's a blessing. Yeah, that's a blessing, girl. And that's
23:16
Speaker 1: what That's why I'm excited. That's why I'm want the
23:18
Speaker 1: other any want to just hug you and shake you
23:20
Speaker 1: and go and just you know, you know, you get ground.
23:22
Speaker 1: Somebody just jump around in a circle. Indeed, well, I
23:29
Speaker 1: see my friends out here. You know, people want to
23:32
Speaker 1: rub shoulders with the A list and I get it,
23:35
Speaker 1: and and that has its place. But the truth is
23:38
Speaker 1: the people that I want to touch. Uh you know,
23:42
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a girl from Brooklyn. I made people laugh,
23:46
Speaker 1: you know, step my toe. I took a risk and
23:49
Speaker 1: stepped my toe into this crazy business we call show business.
23:53
Speaker 1: And now I want to use my platform in a
23:55
Speaker 1: very uh broad, delicious exclusive way. And that's just my
24:01
Speaker 1: way now. You know, it doesn't mean I get I
24:04
Speaker 1: didn't know. Was I at the Oscars? No, I was
24:07
Speaker 1: not at the officer. But I don't know if I
24:09
Speaker 1: don't want to go with who wants to sit up
24:10
Speaker 1: in a in a girdle the whole time? Anyway, I
24:12
Speaker 1: want to and I want to. You know, I love
24:16
Speaker 1: coming and speak you know people say, people haven't asked me,
24:20
Speaker 1: you know when you're gonna do another comedy tour. Well,
24:22
Speaker 1: what I do, Sean you're gonna like this is I
24:25
Speaker 1: am still able to scratch my comedy itch when I
24:28
Speaker 1: go and I speak. So when I speak, when I
24:31
Speaker 1: do a keynote, I often have taken bits from my
24:34
Speaker 1: comedy act and I've just adapted them to a speak
24:38
Speaker 1: to a speaker stage. So I still get the feel
24:42
Speaker 1: of performing without having to do seventeen shows on a weekend.
24:47
Speaker 1: Hope that the manager gives me my bonus. You know,
24:50
Speaker 1: you have to deal with you know, drunk drunk hecklers.
24:53
Speaker 1: And I get paid more because I sell my goods
24:56
Speaker 1: and products and services at the end. And I'm not
24:59
Speaker 1: saying the other comedy is don't do that, but most
25:01
Speaker 1: times it's a T shirt or it's a picture. I'm
25:04
Speaker 1: able to sell my programs that then create change after
25:09
Speaker 1: I speak, so I still get my comedy fix and
25:12
Speaker 1: I get you inspire, educate, entertain and and and um
25:18
Speaker 1: and empower others. Well, you know this is uh. You know,
25:21
Speaker 1: I'm joining this interview, and I hope you're doing this
25:24
Speaker 1: and joining it as well. Because of the fact that
25:26
Speaker 1: we're talking about the possibilities and anybody and then I'm
25:32
Speaker 1: a transitional guy. You're a transitional person. And there's so
25:35
Speaker 1: many everyday people out there who stuck own jobs and complaining,
25:39
Speaker 1: stuck in relationships and complaining, worried about how old they are.
25:42
Speaker 1: I'm for them fifty and sixty. What can I do?
25:45
Speaker 1: I can't change it. I gotta I gotta still on
25:48
Speaker 1: this path. And that's a lie. And that's all you're saying, Kim,
25:53
Speaker 1: Stop reading a lot, stop living a lot, and stop
25:56
Speaker 1: being the lie. Oh that's powerful. Well, you know, here's
26:02
Speaker 1: when I tell folks, and this is because people aren't looking.
26:06
Speaker 1: They're not looking in the right place. I think that
26:08
Speaker 1: a lot of people look without they look out and
26:11
Speaker 1: they go, oh, I'm older than so and so and
26:13
Speaker 1: so and so, or I've gained too much weight, so
26:15
Speaker 1: I'm fatter than so and so, or I'm I'm in
26:17
Speaker 1: this job and I don't know how to get to this.
26:19
Speaker 1: I say, look within. So my thing is story and
26:23
Speaker 1: the power of story. And when I look at um
26:28
Speaker 1: my clients, stories inside those stories are jewels and gems
26:34
Speaker 1: and beautiful minds feel full of amazing nous that can
26:39
Speaker 1: then become your ticket out of the drudgery. So I
26:43
Speaker 1: call it captivating with your story. Captivate with your story.
26:47
Speaker 1: All of us have within us stories of the yummy
26:50
Speaker 1: and the yucky, the ups and the downs, the things
26:53
Speaker 1: that we've learned, the lived experiences. The other phrase I
26:56
Speaker 1: love to say is what is everything that has happened
26:58
Speaker 1: to you and actually happened for you? That means you
27:03
Speaker 1: have a fresh perspective on the yummy and the yucky
27:06
Speaker 1: stuff that has happened. You have survived it, you have uh,
27:10
Speaker 1: you know, you are a victor. So why not use
27:13
Speaker 1: your story to go back and help other people, to
27:15
Speaker 1: share with others how you came through. And so those
27:18
Speaker 1: are the things I like to pull out of people.
27:21
Speaker 1: Pull out the stories. And these are your books, these
27:24
Speaker 1: are your speaking engagements, these are your foundations. There are
27:28
Speaker 1: people who started foundation because they looked at their story
27:31
Speaker 1: and said, oh, my goodness, this is what I've overcome,
27:33
Speaker 1: or this is what my parents did to become who
27:36
Speaker 1: they were, and now I want to give back by
27:40
Speaker 1: sharing the story and bringing people in. And so those
27:43
Speaker 1: people who are sitting around and going onto this or
27:45
Speaker 1: I'm not enough that the truth is within you live
27:49
Speaker 1: beautiful stories of and it's just it's just a matter
27:52
Speaker 1: of tapping into that and then using those stories to
27:56
Speaker 1: either a build your confidence and go on about your
27:59
Speaker 1: business or or be build a business. And that's what
28:04
Speaker 1: I duct my like sweet spot right now. So let's
28:08
Speaker 1: transition right into Captivate with your story, which is the
28:11
Speaker 1: story to amplify your or any business. Captivate with your story,
28:16
Speaker 1: leave with your message. Yes, that's another platform. That's another platform.
28:21
Speaker 1: There's that you have community mastermind, right and then now
28:25
Speaker 1: you have captivate with your story. Tell us about that. Yeah,
28:30
Speaker 1: So captivate with your story is just that it's me
28:32
Speaker 1: teaching the principles of using the power of story to
28:37
Speaker 1: captivate and connect to build an extraordinary life and business.
28:42
Speaker 1: So we connect. It is primal in us to love story.
28:49
Speaker 1: We teach our little ones with story, We learn from
28:51
Speaker 1: our elders with story. It is it's how we process,
28:56
Speaker 1: it's how we see ourselves. You know, when you told
28:59
Speaker 1: when you mentioned the beginning, you and I were running
29:01
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29:03
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29:07
Speaker 1: and they were running around trying to figure something out
29:09
Speaker 1: or making ways and trying to make things happen. You
29:12
Speaker 1: you put yourself in that person's experience, even if you
29:15
Speaker 1: never have the experience, and so it's a powerful way
29:18
Speaker 1: to connect comedian to it. Telling stories on stage, right,
29:23
Speaker 1: aren't just telling you their experiences. They're having you look
29:25
Speaker 1: at the ridiculousness of what they thought or what they saw,
29:29
Speaker 1: and you to see it and experience it. And even
29:32
Speaker 1: if you haven't had an experienced, you you you you
29:35
Speaker 1: resonate with it. And so I'm I'm helping people to
29:38
Speaker 1: use their story to help them to resonate with the
29:42
Speaker 1: people that they want to share their message and their
29:44
Speaker 1: mission with. And it's about visibility. It's about creating impact
29:48
Speaker 1: and becoming more profitable just by using what you already have.
29:53
Speaker 1: So rather than putting up an Instagram post that says,
29:56
Speaker 1: by my bundles of hair, you're explaining why you got
30:01
Speaker 1: the hair business to begin with. Maybe you're an auntie
30:03
Speaker 1: of yours had alopecia. She was so embarrassed that her
30:06
Speaker 1: hair wasn't growing or whatever it is, and so you
30:09
Speaker 1: wanted to create beautiful wigs or you know, something to
30:13
Speaker 1: to make her feel like I don't know, you know whatever,
30:14
Speaker 1: it is creating an engagement, creating that relationship. That's what
30:17
Speaker 1: you're saying. A story can sell a long time versus
30:23
Speaker 1: because everybody got hair. Everybody got hair. But why are
30:26
Speaker 1: you engaged? Why is it important that you should be
30:29
Speaker 1: You should come to me as a customer, tell me,
30:31
Speaker 1: tell you a story. Your story sells a lot. You know,
30:34
Speaker 1: a single moll you know, uh, a person who's in
30:37
Speaker 1: college or some birds who's trying to change their life,
30:40
Speaker 1: their life and they've been working a job that they
30:42
Speaker 1: don't like and this is their opportunity to break out
30:44
Speaker 1: and they because I've known this is that you know
30:48
Speaker 1: right now represents Steven A. Smith. And one of the
30:50
Speaker 1: things he's he's an HPC you graduate. You know, he
30:54
Speaker 1: he was held back in grade school and he's he
30:57
Speaker 1: tells that story and people relate to that. And so
31:02
Speaker 1: what happens in business people need to understand is that
31:05
Speaker 1: relate to it. You can you can look, you can
31:06
Speaker 1: tell like the Super Bowl Commerce. One of the most
31:08
Speaker 1: popular Super Bowl commercials was the Google commercial and the
31:11
Speaker 1: guy was talking about talking about back in the day
31:15
Speaker 1: when he was remembering everything that was a story to
31:19
Speaker 1: an emotion that they was tapping into, and that's what
31:22
Speaker 1: you were talking about in your story. Tell the story
31:24
Speaker 1: that's relatable to many and also will engage conversation. That
31:30
Speaker 1: is a beautiful message. Kim Cole's thank you. You know
31:36
Speaker 1: I created something that I can give every one of
31:38
Speaker 1: your listeners. It's free. That's one of the first questions
31:42
Speaker 1: I get was I don't know if I have a story. Well,
31:44
Speaker 1: I don't have any stories. They also saying, how do
31:46
Speaker 1: I tell my story? About telling all my business? And
31:48
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32:16
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32:20
Speaker 1: and then we can talk about how to then connect
32:23
Speaker 1: it to what you want to do. Do you want
32:25
Speaker 1: to write a book? Do you want to become a speaker?
32:28
Speaker 1: Do you want to connect this? Uh? Sneeze. How do
32:36
Speaker 1: I get to sneeze in the middle of the interview,
32:39
Speaker 1: you know, and you get that crescendo too, you know
32:41
Speaker 1: as you leave. That's like the minister about the called
32:43
Speaker 1: everybody to the altar and just start coughing. I want
32:48
Speaker 1: you to come and me. I mean, spirit is really
32:56
Speaker 1: coming in now. It's all about connects your story to
33:02
Speaker 1: everything else that you want to do. And I feel
33:04
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33:06
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33:09
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33:12
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33:13
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33:16
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33:20
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33:22
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33:24
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33:26
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33:29
Speaker 1: of your beautiful pictures that you have running around on LinkedIn.
33:32
Speaker 1: And and also when I when you post on LinkedIn,
33:34
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start liking your posts so you can get
33:36
Speaker 1: in my timeline. I'm just telling you, Kim um, you're
33:40
Speaker 1: you're such a breath of fresh air. Secondly, as you
33:43
Speaker 1: and I know talent, my dear you, we'll be back
33:47
Speaker 1: on TV doing this. Thank you, This is this is,
33:52
Speaker 1: this is who you are. You know we can we
33:55
Speaker 1: can go through life and say, oh she's a great
33:57
Speaker 1: comedic actress. Oh she's so entertaining. But like you said,
34:01
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34:03
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34:06
Speaker 1: And so that is I'm just hearing in this, in
34:09
Speaker 1: this conversation that first of all, you bless my listeners.
34:13
Speaker 1: We were us reconnecting in this manner is so awesome.
34:16
Speaker 1: But more important the message, in the consistent tone in
34:19
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34:22
Speaker 1: bob and head information Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
34:28
Speaker 1: you're bobbing head. Yeah she right. She listen to a bill,
34:31
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34:33
Speaker 1: She's right about that. You got that bobbing head and
34:36
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34:41
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34:47
Speaker 1: everybody what everybody's doing wrong. There's people whose names I'm
34:50
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34:51
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34:54
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34:57
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35:01
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35:04
Speaker 1: stay in the place of joy and love and possibilities,
35:08
Speaker 1: and I see that in other people, which is why
35:12
Speaker 1: this is why I'm doing what I'm doing. So thank
35:14
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35:18
Speaker 1: folks like you. So thank you so much. I see
35:21
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I always did, and you will always
35:23
Speaker 1: try to stay. For the record, you have stayed shop
35:29
Speaker 1: you have. I don't know, I didn't know what was
35:31
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35:34
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35:37
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35:44
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35:46
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35:50
Speaker 1: I know it was an option, a choice, it was
35:54
Speaker 1: a choice, and thank you for making that choice. Thank you, Kim.
35:57
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36:00
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36:02
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation, Roxanne Chantey. Well, thank you, thank you. I
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Speaker 1: love that intro. Well, first of all, let's let's just
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Speaker 1: talk about it is what I know, you know, you
39:55
Speaker 1: know your individual I saw the Netflix movie Roxanne, Roxanne,
39:59
Speaker 1: and now if you're doing this show Unsung, okay, and
40:03
Speaker 1: the now you know, when they do movies, they kind
40:06
Speaker 1: of change stuff around so they can make make the
40:08
Speaker 1: storyline fit or man bellish it, or may undersell certain
40:12
Speaker 1: things in that movie. You know, your mom role in
40:15
Speaker 1: the movie or kicked out. But what I did take
40:19
Speaker 1: away from that movie between the ages of fifteen and eighteen,
40:22
Speaker 1: you led a pretty full life. Absolutely, And what we
40:26
Speaker 1: did actually with the movie is that we kind of
40:29
Speaker 1: took things out of it because we weren't ready. You
40:31
Speaker 1: weren't sure if the world was really ready for rock
40:35
Speaker 1: sand Chante. I want to say, um uncensored. So what
40:40
Speaker 1: we what we did was we act because we wanted
40:42
Speaker 1: to make sure that the movie was going to be
40:43
Speaker 1: a movie where parents, especially fathers, were going to be
40:47
Speaker 1: able to sit down and watch it with their daughters.
40:49
Speaker 1: So there were certain aspects of the movie things that
40:52
Speaker 1: we took out, but we did not add anything to
40:54
Speaker 1: it because the Rocks and Shante life definitely doesn't need
40:57
Speaker 1: any additive It is definitely great on its own. So, um,
41:02
Speaker 1: everything you see is everything that you saw in the
41:05
Speaker 1: movie was factual. There was no Um, we didn't add
41:09
Speaker 1: anything for any dramatic effect. Um, you know, it's just
41:13
Speaker 1: how it was. And people look at the movie and say, like,
41:16
Speaker 1: you survived that, but you're still standing, You're still smiling.
41:19
Speaker 1: You know. I have a radio show daily on Serious
41:23
Speaker 1: Exam which is called to Have a Nice Day, where
41:25
Speaker 1: I'm literally just trying to make sure that the world
41:28
Speaker 1: has a nice day or at least gets a chance
41:30
Speaker 1: to laugh at least once, to forget their problems and
41:33
Speaker 1: things that are going on. And to be able to
41:36
Speaker 1: do that. I'm able to do that because there's a
41:38
Speaker 1: certain resilience that are in us that allows us to say, Okay,
41:41
Speaker 1: you know what, these are my problems. This is what
41:43
Speaker 1: I went through, but I've also learned how to direct
41:46
Speaker 1: the anger for those that it needs to be directed towards.
41:49
Speaker 1: And it led me to live just a happy life.
41:52
Speaker 1: Well you have a great life, you know. I always
41:54
Speaker 1: always say that, you know, I come from the inner
41:56
Speaker 1: City and there are some things that happened to me
41:58
Speaker 1: and as I grew up there. You know, it might
42:00
Speaker 1: not be favorable to the average person in the conversation,
42:03
Speaker 1: but it didn't damage me. It's part of my story's
42:05
Speaker 1: part of who I am today. I learned. I always
42:08
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, you learn free mistakes. You know,
42:11
Speaker 1: you know, if you learn from it, it doesn't become
42:14
Speaker 1: an error in your life. And so so there was
42:17
Speaker 1: there was some funny, fun characters in the movie, like
42:19
Speaker 1: the young lady who your your your hype lady That
42:22
Speaker 1: was a real person. Yes, absolutely, best friend Katrina, Yes absolutely,
42:29
Speaker 1: And I think I think everyone needs to have one
42:31
Speaker 1: of those in their life. You need to have that
42:34
Speaker 1: person who can give you that extra hype that you
42:37
Speaker 1: need when you're unable to hype yourself, because you know,
42:39
Speaker 1: there's some days now when we sit back and we
42:41
Speaker 1: can't seem to get a jump, and then you have
42:43
Speaker 1: that one phone call, that one person that'd be like
42:46
Speaker 1: you better get up and get out there and get
42:48
Speaker 1: on something. You know, Look what's going on in life.
42:50
Speaker 1: Look how you live, you know, because other people can
42:52
Speaker 1: see the value in your situation when you can't. You
42:55
Speaker 1: know that That's what I love the character because from
42:58
Speaker 1: so so, when did your relationship ship with her start?
43:00
Speaker 1: We're talking to Rock sand Chote. You're talking about the
43:03
Speaker 1: movie Rock Sand Rock Sand that air do on Netflix,
43:05
Speaker 1: that came out thinking, uh, it's a great compelling movie.
43:09
Speaker 1: Soon as as soon as you book for the show,
43:11
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch it again. I Oh, I gotta
43:12
Speaker 1: I gotta got a shop at my rocks and rocks
43:14
Speaker 1: and information and uh, can't be coming on this show
43:18
Speaker 1: stumbling and so and so. You know, you know, you
43:22
Speaker 1: were just born in a great era for rap, you know,
43:26
Speaker 1: and and the fact that you were so respected, how
43:29
Speaker 1: did that come about? Because you are a female, and
43:31
Speaker 1: you know, if we all know this is everything is
43:34
Speaker 1: male dominant. You know, you know, women can't compete with me.
43:37
Speaker 1: They could physically, mentally, you know, socially, and then here
43:42
Speaker 1: you are challenging status quo. Take us through that little
43:45
Speaker 1: journey with your little rapper, your little your little hype
43:48
Speaker 1: master right there with you. Well, I think what it
43:51
Speaker 1: is is that having the ability to be able to freestyle,
43:54
Speaker 1: which is something that not everyone is able to do,
43:57
Speaker 1: where you can literally just sit down and rhyme throughout life.
44:01
Speaker 1: And when I say being able to run through out life,
44:03
Speaker 1: that means just being able to walk through the house
44:04
Speaker 1: and run about the things that you see, or watching
44:07
Speaker 1: certain television shows and being able to rhyme about those,
44:10
Speaker 1: or just being able to put words together, um so effortlessly,
44:14
Speaker 1: effortlessly with rhyming ability. It just worked out pretty good.
44:18
Speaker 1: So it allowed me to be a great battle rapper
44:21
Speaker 1: because it allowed me to be able to talk about
44:23
Speaker 1: whatever somebody had on. Now, having a hype person is
44:27
Speaker 1: the person that makes sure that the crowd comes along
44:30
Speaker 1: to see what you're doing. Because you don't want to
44:32
Speaker 1: have a great battle and it's only three of you there,
44:35
Speaker 1: you know, who may walk away and say you didn't win,
44:38
Speaker 1: didn't you know? So you need to have a large
44:40
Speaker 1: crowd if you're gonna do what you're doing right, If
44:42
Speaker 1: you're gonna show up, you got to show up and
44:44
Speaker 1: show out. And I come from a family of women
44:47
Speaker 1: that have always been able to do that. From when
44:49
Speaker 1: my mom and my aunts would enter into dance contests,
44:52
Speaker 1: and they would enter into dance contests pretending like they
44:54
Speaker 1: didn't practice whole week. You know, they just show up
44:57
Speaker 1: and make it seem like that's just something they came
44:59
Speaker 1: up with, right knowing that that's something that they did
45:02
Speaker 1: while they were in a club, or we're gonna go
45:04
Speaker 1: to a barbecue, or we're gonna go here. So it
45:07
Speaker 1: was always it's coming from a family that was willing
45:09
Speaker 1: to show up and show out. So I was never
45:11
Speaker 1: afraid of a crowd, which I think is like, um
45:14
Speaker 1: rule number one is, if you want to be an entertainer,
45:16
Speaker 1: you can't be afraid of a crowd, whether there for
45:19
Speaker 1: you or against you, you cannot be afraid of a crowd.
45:23
Speaker 1: And um, I was able to do that. Now. You know,
45:25
Speaker 1: when you talk about the journey when you first started
45:28
Speaker 1: going out, and uh, tell us about the neighborhood you
45:30
Speaker 1: grew up in. Give us that, give us the surroundings
45:32
Speaker 1: of the environment that you grew up in. Okay, Well,
45:36
Speaker 1: I grew up in. I grew up in Queensbridge Public Housing,
45:40
Speaker 1: which is the largest housing project in the world, and
45:43
Speaker 1: it was like a city. I grew up actually in
45:45
Speaker 1: a city where a city inside of a city, where
45:48
Speaker 1: you didn't have to go outside of the projects for anything.
45:51
Speaker 1: You know, everything that you needed was their schools, medical clinic,
45:56
Speaker 1: the stores, the sneaker stores, fish markets, frood stands. Everything
46:00
Speaker 1: was inside of my projects, including a pool and a park.
46:03
Speaker 1: Now we've always had a multimillion dollar you from our project,
46:08
Speaker 1: apartment windows, which is now the apartments that people are
46:13
Speaker 1: paying millions of dollars for, But we saw the value
46:15
Speaker 1: in that. So I never really knew that I was
46:18
Speaker 1: in a in a hood, you know, you know what,
46:21
Speaker 1: I just didn't seem like we had our own train station.
46:24
Speaker 1: So all the things that everyone inspired to have we
46:27
Speaker 1: had in the project. And it was very family orientated.
46:31
Speaker 1: So it was a very large family um housing project,
46:34
Speaker 1: which I think is the reason why it was so
46:36
Speaker 1: successful and still standing because there were families. They were
46:40
Speaker 1: people who were really related to each other, you know,
46:42
Speaker 1: families with sixteen children, families with ten children, families with
46:46
Speaker 1: eleven children. So because of that, you know, they literally
46:49
Speaker 1: took over the projects and so we didn't have a
46:52
Speaker 1: lot of problems where a lot of other housing projects
46:55
Speaker 1: had that. But when you go out to travel and
46:58
Speaker 1: you bring your neighbors with you, you have thirty thousand neighbors,
47:02
Speaker 1: you know, when people stay like okay, well, you know,
47:04
Speaker 1: you show up and you perform, and they said, well,
47:07
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have some people from your neighborhood come.
47:09
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, no, I can't. And they'd be like,
47:11
Speaker 1: well why even like my whole neighborhood will fill this
47:14
Speaker 1: whole arena, Like I can't invite my whole neighborhood where
47:18
Speaker 1: some people grew up on a block, you know, you
47:20
Speaker 1: ten people off your block, you ten thousand on one block.
47:26
Speaker 1: So it was just different, you know, for that, but
47:28
Speaker 1: it was a blessing and it was one of the
47:30
Speaker 1: reasons why I was able to walk with no fear
47:33
Speaker 1: going into places because no matter where you went, there
47:35
Speaker 1: was always somebody from Queensbridge there. And that is a
47:38
Speaker 1: true story. Whether I was in Germany, it would be
47:42
Speaker 1: somebody who went in the army from Queensbridge who went
47:45
Speaker 1: in the army and they was in Germany showed up
47:47
Speaker 1: at the show, you know. So it was just a
47:49
Speaker 1: blessing to be born where I was born, especially to
47:52
Speaker 1: be born to who I was born to, you know,
47:54
Speaker 1: having such a great, strong mom, someone who was no nonsense.
47:58
Speaker 1: You was near a long played that role girl. Oh
48:02
Speaker 1: you killed it killed. And even thing about it is
48:04
Speaker 1: that you know, I grew up in the househole where
48:07
Speaker 1: you were able to use for fanny as an expression.
48:11
Speaker 1: You know, now you couldn't just go around cursing people
48:13
Speaker 1: out at the moment arise where you need to say it.
48:16
Speaker 1: You know, I remember the first time I heard my
48:18
Speaker 1: grandmother use foul language. It came out of her mouth,
48:23
Speaker 1: so I guess I want to say, like, it came
48:24
Speaker 1: out of her mouth so smoothly. I thought she was
48:26
Speaker 1: singing to the lady. And I was like, you know what,
48:29
Speaker 1: I can't wait to sing that song. I love it.
48:32
Speaker 1: I love you know. Let's let's let's go back to
48:34
Speaker 1: your mom. The Nia long played the role. You know,
48:37
Speaker 1: she was a strong lady in the in the movie series. Uh.
48:41
Speaker 1: You know, she has a guy she's dated and he
48:43
Speaker 1: does her wrong and and she's just a single mom
48:46
Speaker 1: just trying to give the best life for her daughters.
48:49
Speaker 1: And but she kept stressing education. She kept saying, stay
48:53
Speaker 1: in school, stay in school, Stay in school. How did
48:56
Speaker 1: that message play out in your life? Now? That message
48:59
Speaker 1: of staying is get an education. All this is all good,
49:02
Speaker 1: but you get an education, you better than this, right. Well,
49:05
Speaker 1: the thing about it was that she understood the importance
49:08
Speaker 1: of having one because coming from the rural South, there
49:11
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that were not available to
49:14
Speaker 1: them that she felt was available in the city, Like
49:17
Speaker 1: I went to school. Even though we grew up together
49:20
Speaker 1: inside of Queen's Bridge projects, where most children went to
49:24
Speaker 1: public school, which is like PS one eleven, my mom
49:27
Speaker 1: chose to have us become bust children, which means we
49:30
Speaker 1: were bust out of the neighborhood into other schools. And
49:32
Speaker 1: though there was our own personal difficulties with doing that,
49:35
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're the only black child in
49:37
Speaker 1: all white school, you know there are certain things that
49:39
Speaker 1: you deal with on a daily basis that you wouldn't
49:41
Speaker 1: deal with if you went to school with people in
49:43
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. But my mom's strategy was that, listen, you
49:47
Speaker 1: don't live with these foods. You're gonna be with these foods.
49:50
Speaker 1: But you know what, the world is a lot bigger
49:52
Speaker 1: than Queen's Bridge, So I need you to start your
49:54
Speaker 1: education outside of there, and so for me it was
49:57
Speaker 1: always very very important in uh in wanting to pursue it,
50:02
Speaker 1: understanding the importance of it, and even now having a program,
50:05
Speaker 1: having a nonprofit program with my husband called Mind of
50:08
Speaker 1: a Matter where we go into the schools to make
50:10
Speaker 1: sure these young ladies stay in school from the ninth
50:13
Speaker 1: to the twelfth grade. We followed them both academically and
50:16
Speaker 1: personally to make sure that they understand the importance to school.
50:19
Speaker 1: And I tell everyone that, I said, listen, you know,
50:21
Speaker 1: I am an advocate for higher education because I know
50:24
Speaker 1: how important it is. But I've also experienced the world
50:27
Speaker 1: of I like to say, the mean world of smart
50:30
Speaker 1: people where they feel that, you know, you must have
50:33
Speaker 1: certain documentation in order to even be heard. So I
50:37
Speaker 1: tell everyone, like, listen, self education is great, um, if
50:40
Speaker 1: you're able to pursue it. A further academic education is great,
50:44
Speaker 1: you know, into into the world of academia, bring your
50:47
Speaker 1: own home lessons with you, and then you'll be able
50:49
Speaker 1: to be successful. Wow. Okay, now you just laid it
50:54
Speaker 1: out there. You know, I'm not a guy who would
50:58
Speaker 1: put sentences together like that, fair, you know, but you
51:00
Speaker 1: just like articulated this and they just stopped, though, sell
51:04
Speaker 1: I don't like you. I don't like you, rock say,
51:05
Speaker 1: I don't like you. You know what I'm saying. You know,
51:07
Speaker 1: you just just just laying out centers at the centers
51:10
Speaker 1: at the centers at the center, and then you just stopped.
51:12
Speaker 1: Or you're battling me. Are you ready for me to spit?
51:14
Speaker 1: Because they ain't gona apple, it ain't gonna happen, thank you.
51:18
Speaker 1: I like the way you put that. Maybe I'm always on.
51:21
Speaker 1: I guess that is the battle wrapper and me that
51:23
Speaker 1: allows me to uh articulate the way I do. But
51:26
Speaker 1: I mean, I've also been tapped on the back and
51:28
Speaker 1: told that I was a pretty good artist. But you
51:30
Speaker 1: are you are. That's that's the gift, that's that's the journey,
51:33
Speaker 1: and that's you know. I look at that you know
51:35
Speaker 1: represents Steven A. Smith for that on ESPN, and I
51:39
Speaker 1: talked to my god, man, you got a gift, man.
51:41
Speaker 1: Your ability to just to put a sentence after a
51:44
Speaker 1: centence after a centence, and then just to see something
51:46
Speaker 1: and just to capture it and then just give it
51:49
Speaker 1: back to a view or listen. That's a gift. And
51:52
Speaker 1: so when I looked at you when I was watching
51:54
Speaker 1: the show and listening to your music and watching the battles,
51:56
Speaker 1: and you just effortless, just just taking all this information.
52:00
Speaker 1: And now, no, listen to me and my degrees in mathematics,
52:02
Speaker 1: so I know about numbers. I know how you got
52:04
Speaker 1: to bring stuff in and to just spit out the information.
52:07
Speaker 1: You getting all this information, you got noise, you've got
52:10
Speaker 1: people boo, and you've got people cheering, you got somebody
52:13
Speaker 1: screaming in your face, and then you got to articulate
52:15
Speaker 1: all that information back to them. That is a gift,
52:18
Speaker 1: young lady. Thank you, but don't, but don't do that
52:23
Speaker 1: to me. No more, don't, don't don't ratle off by
52:24
Speaker 1: fifteen sentences and didn't stop them again because you know
52:27
Speaker 1: I'm gonna confind you. I'm gonna find you. You're not
52:30
Speaker 1: gonna do me on my show. I know that, I
52:33
Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna be back with more. Just my
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53:22
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday of Sirius XM. It's called Have a
53:26
Speaker 1: Nice Day on Sirius XM satellite radio. Tell us about
53:29
Speaker 1: that day, that show and how did it get started. Well,
53:33
Speaker 1: actually I was able to get and it's so funny
53:36
Speaker 1: because this is how it started. L l Um l
53:39
Speaker 1: CLUJ reached out and said, listen, you know I want
53:41
Speaker 1: to interview you about the movie. I'm gonna interview you
53:43
Speaker 1: and Nia and I was like, okay, great, so I
53:46
Speaker 1: went out to l A. When I went out to
53:47
Speaker 1: l A, we started to an interview similar to this one,
53:51
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden at the end of
53:53
Speaker 1: the interview, because I had him laughing, I had him
53:56
Speaker 1: most crying. We talked about past, said future everything. He said,
54:02
Speaker 1: you know what you need to be on radio and
54:04
Speaker 1: I was like, you think so, and he was like,
54:06
Speaker 1: I know so, and I'm gonna make it happen. And
54:10
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, you know, just just taking
54:12
Speaker 1: a nonchalanes, no problems. You know, you got my number,
54:16
Speaker 1: you let me know. And by the time I got home,
54:19
Speaker 1: he had me come in for an air check. And
54:22
Speaker 1: when I went in for an air check, the I
54:24
Speaker 1: thought I had did something wrong, and the lady came
54:27
Speaker 1: back to me and she was like, that is the
54:29
Speaker 1: best air check I have ever heard. And I have
54:32
Speaker 1: been in radio for over twenty years. I've never had
54:35
Speaker 1: a person come in and ace it in just the
54:38
Speaker 1: first try. She said, listen, if they don't hire you,
54:41
Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of other places that will.
54:44
Speaker 1: So we started laughing about it, and then the next thing,
54:46
Speaker 1: you know, we started having a nice day. Oh my goodness. Now,
54:50
Speaker 1: how did the name come about? How did the name
54:52
Speaker 1: come about? Well, it came from the fact that you know,
54:55
Speaker 1: I don't hold any animosity I'm I'm a very pleasant
54:57
Speaker 1: person when people meet me. Of course, we all have
54:59
Speaker 1: our sides that you know, if I'm in a battle
55:02
Speaker 1: and you know I'm stopping you right there, You're so
55:07
Speaker 1: funny to me because I could tell you you're sweet,
55:10
Speaker 1: You're nice, you know, bless you. Uh God is good.
55:14
Speaker 1: But boy, they get you in the right kitchen standing
55:17
Speaker 1: next to the right knife, it's gonna comes. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: pick it up and throwing at them. You are something else.
55:22
Speaker 1: We're gonna bust hell. WHI that's the that's the beauty
55:29
Speaker 1: of your personality. I you know, I'm gonna tell I
55:32
Speaker 1: got six sisters and and and and just talking to you,
55:36
Speaker 1: you know, I could just see myself just laughing and
55:39
Speaker 1: punching on the shoulder and you call a little fool,
55:42
Speaker 1: I'm calling you stupid and hugging each other and crying
55:45
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's that's a that's a that's
55:48
Speaker 1: a blessing. I'm just telling you that. To be able
55:50
Speaker 1: to be that friendly but that engaging at the same time,
55:53
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's your gifts. That's one of your gifts.
55:57
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know. It's because I love people and
56:01
Speaker 1: and I know that there's gonna always be a time
56:03
Speaker 1: where everyone is not gonna love you and everyone is
56:05
Speaker 1: not gonna like you. But you don't have to give
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Speaker 1: them a reason to do that, you know that, just
56:09
Speaker 1: leave it on them to feel their own way. But
56:12
Speaker 1: I don't add anything to it for that to be
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Speaker 1: the case. I just like for everyone to have a
56:16
Speaker 1: nice day. I feel like there's so much going on
56:19
Speaker 1: in the world, and I've had so many I've had
56:22
Speaker 1: so many sad days. But the main thing is, you know,
56:25
Speaker 1: I know what it is to want to have a
56:28
Speaker 1: nice day, because I know what it is for people
56:29
Speaker 1: to try to make you not have a nice day. Okay, cool. Now,
56:32
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the our interview was talking about that.
56:35
Speaker 1: I said, well, did they add anything that they drop anything, Rashan,
56:38
Speaker 1: You said, Rashan, look, uh, we kind of kind of
56:41
Speaker 1: kind of tamed it down, so you know, parents can
56:44
Speaker 1: watch with their kids and get a learning lessons out
56:46
Speaker 1: of this. Great great acting were received on Netflix. Now
56:52
Speaker 1: Unsong calls you walk us through that whole process. Well,
56:57
Speaker 1: I had already appeared. The reason how the way I
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Speaker 1: got an unsung was because I had appeared on so
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Speaker 1: many Unsung and had so many for everyone. You know,
57:08
Speaker 1: they were like, hold on, did you have my own son?
57:13
Speaker 1: And I was like no. And then with the movie
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Speaker 1: and then with the radio station. You know, we weren't
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Speaker 1: even sure if I was Unsung or if I was
57:21
Speaker 1: singing again right right. They said, listen, we think that
57:26
Speaker 1: it's your time to have an Unsung and I said
57:28
Speaker 1: absolutely because I'm a huge fan of the show and
57:33
Speaker 1: I've always thought that in order to get out of
57:35
Speaker 1: certain information because I love the approach that it took.
57:38
Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I'll definitely do it. And so
57:41
Speaker 1: that's how we came out with me being able to
57:42
Speaker 1: do my own Unsung. Now with that being said, talk
57:47
Speaker 1: about what big what role did you play and putting
57:50
Speaker 1: it together? Do you have any saying it? Did you
57:52
Speaker 1: have any producing powers in it? Or you just wanted
57:55
Speaker 1: to make sure that they said we're gonna go in
57:57
Speaker 1: this direction you said, no, go in this direction. How
57:59
Speaker 1: to what role did you play in their actual production
58:02
Speaker 1: or put together the creative process. Well, for the creative
58:05
Speaker 1: process of Unsung, they pretty much have their producers how
58:09
Speaker 1: they would like for it to look. I think when
58:11
Speaker 1: people say that they may be and I'm not sure
58:13
Speaker 1: if I've ever heard anyone say this, but for people
58:15
Speaker 1: to say that they may be unhappy with their unsung,
58:18
Speaker 1: that meant that they were unhappy with their life. That
58:21
Speaker 1: meant that there were certain aspects of their life. Maybe
58:23
Speaker 1: they chose not to reveal the Rox and Shante stories
58:26
Speaker 1: an open book. I just tell everybody that you gotta
58:28
Speaker 1: make sure you read something else before you read mine,
58:30
Speaker 1: because it shouldn't be the only book that you read,
58:33
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be some things in there that you
58:35
Speaker 1: need to know about. And so I just went to
58:39
Speaker 1: them with, you know, it was an open heart, open mind,
58:41
Speaker 1: open spirit, and was like, okay, come on, let's do it.
58:44
Speaker 1: And they were like, well, let's talk about this. I said, okay, fine.
58:47
Speaker 1: And if you notice in my Unsung I really allowed
58:50
Speaker 1: others to tell the story and then gave my opinion
58:53
Speaker 1: on their version of the story. I don't think any
58:56
Speaker 1: other unsungs did that. I felt like it wasn't no
58:59
Speaker 1: need for me to say, well, I did this for
59:01
Speaker 1: this one. Instead, it may be that person who says
59:04
Speaker 1: what I did from them, or I did say this
59:06
Speaker 1: person did that to me. No one else said, look
59:09
Speaker 1: what happened to her. And you know, because I s
59:12
Speaker 1: who I've always lived life. I've never taken things and
59:15
Speaker 1: carried them with me. That's why I'm able to travel, so,
59:18
Speaker 1: you know, travel so much because I have every luggage,
59:21
Speaker 1: I can travel absolutely absolutely. Here's the fun part about
59:25
Speaker 1: my interview with you and uh and just the information
59:28
Speaker 1: you're giving everybody is that, first of all, you're very honest. Look,
59:32
Speaker 1: I'm not over here trying to sugarcoat this is this
59:34
Speaker 1: is my story. I can tell you a darker story.
59:36
Speaker 1: I can tell you this story which whichever you want
59:38
Speaker 1: to sit down here, okay, but what I'm not gonna
59:41
Speaker 1: do is brag about what I've complied. But that's why.
59:43
Speaker 1: That's why you're a legend. See a legend can that
59:46
Speaker 1: when you're a legend, Rock Sane, See other people can
59:49
Speaker 1: tell their story about you. You go, yeah, that's right,
59:52
Speaker 1: But that's how it really happened. Now, there were two
59:55
Speaker 1: very prominent names that popped up in your movie Rock
59:59
Speaker 1: sand Rocks Bis Marquis, Yes and Yes tell us about
1:00:06
Speaker 1: both those relationships started with Bis Marquis. My relationship with
1:00:11
Speaker 1: this this is my brother beyond brother. If you can
1:00:15
Speaker 1: even give someone that title, we've traveled together. He was
1:00:19
Speaker 1: the first person to say to me, listen, don't you
1:00:23
Speaker 1: know we're gonna be stars, You're gonna be big starts. Yeah,
1:00:28
Speaker 1: you know, let's just get it and do these battles.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: He was like, no, it's gonna be bigger than this.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: You watch, And I told him myself, well, listen, my
1:00:36
Speaker 1: stage is your stage. So as with everyone that was
1:00:39
Speaker 1: in the Juice crew, they all started off as like
1:00:41
Speaker 1: my DJ first, but it wasn't like I wanted them
1:00:44
Speaker 1: to be my DJ and seeing him as a support
1:00:46
Speaker 1: and there, oh, yeah, you're gonna be my DJ, and
1:00:48
Speaker 1: it's no. I wanted them to be my DJ so
1:00:50
Speaker 1: I could get them on the stage and then I'd
1:00:53
Speaker 1: switched places with them during my show and let them perform.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: And then I'm standing behind the turntables. I'm not doing nothing,
1:01:00
Speaker 1: but I'm just standing behind it and making it like
1:01:03
Speaker 1: I'm doing so that this way they would be able
1:01:06
Speaker 1: to have the same platform. I've never had a problem
1:01:08
Speaker 1: with sharing my platform because anyone, you know, all I
1:01:11
Speaker 1: say is that when you come on board, you come
1:01:14
Speaker 1: on board and bring your best, you know, don't just
1:01:17
Speaker 1: come up here just to do it. Because I never
1:01:19
Speaker 1: wanted anybody to feel like, well, you know what, it's
1:01:21
Speaker 1: just the rock stand Shanta thing and not take it
1:01:24
Speaker 1: seriously and even to get to the point of nas
1:01:28
Speaker 1: You know, I told now, it's like you you're great,
1:01:30
Speaker 1: you know, so now listen, you come back when you
1:01:33
Speaker 1: got everything together, because why come out and do some
1:01:37
Speaker 1: little rhymes that don't even represent you know, how knowledgeable
1:01:40
Speaker 1: you are, you know, how smart at you are, how
1:01:42
Speaker 1: brilliant you are, how intelligent you are. And so the
1:01:45
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, he came back and he was
1:01:48
Speaker 1: nasty nuns and how It's like, okay, awesome. Now you
1:01:54
Speaker 1: know it's it's you know, you are a you know,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: like I said, in my life, I'm always paying it
1:01:59
Speaker 1: for I'm always uh step it out of my comfort
1:02:03
Speaker 1: zone and telling people how great they can be and
1:02:06
Speaker 1: pushing them forward and and it's paying back to me
1:02:09
Speaker 1: for me in my life right now. And I was
1:02:10
Speaker 1: just doing it. And I tend to believe that's part
1:02:13
Speaker 1: of your natural personality too. No matter what you're doing
1:02:15
Speaker 1: good and bad in your life, I feel you always
1:02:18
Speaker 1: have something good to say when you to somebody who
1:02:20
Speaker 1: deserves to hear it or need to hear it correct. Yes, absolutely,
1:02:25
Speaker 1: I am definitely a person who will always point out
1:02:29
Speaker 1: the positive in people and give them that push. I stop,
1:02:32
Speaker 1: I feed the homeless um if I'm going, I could
1:02:35
Speaker 1: be on my way going to have a dinner, and
1:02:37
Speaker 1: if there's someone outside and they said that they're hungry,
1:02:40
Speaker 1: I'll go inside, purchach them and dinner, bring it outside
1:02:42
Speaker 1: to them before I even sit down and get comfortable
1:02:45
Speaker 1: and have my own dinner. Because I know what it's
1:02:48
Speaker 1: like to to look at those who have and you
1:02:51
Speaker 1: don't have and wish you had, and then you say, well,
1:02:54
Speaker 1: you know what, when I get in that position, I'm
1:02:56
Speaker 1: never gonna be selfish like them. I'm never going to
1:02:58
Speaker 1: be that way. And I stick to that and and
1:03:00
Speaker 1: that's that's the way I lived my life to know
1:03:03
Speaker 1: that all the things that I said when I was younger,
1:03:05
Speaker 1: all the things that I said when I was in
1:03:07
Speaker 1: the streets, or the things when I said when I
1:03:09
Speaker 1: was boosting the stores when I was by myself, that
1:03:11
Speaker 1: I made sure to be able to once I was
1:03:14
Speaker 1: in a position to make sure that everyone was good.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's even to a fault because you're so
1:03:19
Speaker 1: busy sharing and people are so busy stealing that you
1:03:23
Speaker 1: don't even realize that that's what's happening right now. Here's
1:03:27
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about you because in the movie, you know,
1:03:30
Speaker 1: it ends with that moment with os, but we all
1:03:32
Speaker 1: know that you pursued education with the college and pursued
1:03:35
Speaker 1: higher education. How did they come out with did you
1:03:38
Speaker 1: pay for your your college education? How was that? How
1:03:41
Speaker 1: was that funding along the way? And how many years
1:03:43
Speaker 1: to take you to go through that process? Well, what
1:03:46
Speaker 1: it was was that I started off as a great
1:03:49
Speaker 1: keynote speaker, as I'm sure that you can tell from
1:03:52
Speaker 1: how I speak now, that I was wanted and a
1:03:56
Speaker 1: lot of universities to come out and I would speak
1:03:59
Speaker 1: on the fact of pursuing higher education. During that time,
1:04:03
Speaker 1: the record company was supposed to pay for my my education,
1:04:08
Speaker 1: and it got to a point where they were no
1:04:09
Speaker 1: longer paying for it. So anyone that has been in
1:04:13
Speaker 1: school or has went through that, you know what it
1:04:15
Speaker 1: is to get that dreadful call to the burst's office
1:04:18
Speaker 1: when they tell you that you know your school has
1:04:20
Speaker 1: not been paid for up until this point, then you
1:04:23
Speaker 1: have then you have to leave school. And as I
1:04:26
Speaker 1: was leaving, I remember speaking with one of my professors
1:04:29
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, you need to go
1:04:30
Speaker 1: and speak about this out into the world. And so
1:04:33
Speaker 1: I became a keynote speaker us the moniker of Dr
1:04:38
Speaker 1: Roxing and Chantaye started there. Wow, so you they were
1:04:42
Speaker 1: they were, they were paying for your education and it
1:04:44
Speaker 1: is just stopped. Yes, And did you did you follow
1:04:48
Speaker 1: up on that? Why did they stop or did you
1:04:51
Speaker 1: just forget that? I'm just gonna handle it myself exactly.
1:04:54
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, and there's certain things
1:04:56
Speaker 1: that you know, your single mom, you're out here, you're
1:04:58
Speaker 1: trying to make things happen, and you're unable to continue
1:05:02
Speaker 1: with it. So you pick up whatever it is that
1:05:05
Speaker 1: you're able to do and you're able to pursue from it.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: But I do say this much as I say to
1:05:10
Speaker 1: anyone that is listening, that I definitely support everyone to
1:05:16
Speaker 1: go as far in their education as possible. Higher education
1:05:20
Speaker 1: is a must. Having a degree to a certain extent
1:05:23
Speaker 1: is what it does is it allows and opens up
1:05:25
Speaker 1: doors for you. When I get the chance to because
1:05:28
Speaker 1: now I have been blessed so much to have so
1:05:30
Speaker 1: many things on my plate, I would love to go
1:05:32
Speaker 1: back and pursue my education because that's something that I've
1:05:36
Speaker 1: always wanted to do. Wow, you know, I'd say the
1:05:39
Speaker 1: same thing I tell people that. You know, when I
1:05:41
Speaker 1: came out of high school, I wanted to be a
1:05:43
Speaker 1: forklift driver, and I became a four flivve driver. And
1:05:47
Speaker 1: then I dropped the box on the guy's hand and
1:05:49
Speaker 1: broke it and they fired me. So that was the
1:05:52
Speaker 1: end of my forklift driving career. And then I walked
1:05:55
Speaker 1: on campus and at the University of Houston and saw
1:05:58
Speaker 1: some things that mostly the the nice looking ladies, and
1:06:01
Speaker 1: I went, that's that I need to go to college.
1:06:03
Speaker 1: And college changed my life. You know that. That's whatever
1:06:07
Speaker 1: drug meet, whatever drags you on campus, let it pull you,
1:06:10
Speaker 1: let it pull you, let it pull you to that,
1:06:12
Speaker 1: to that and I ain't a high education, that's what
1:06:14
Speaker 1: and it pulled me on there. And uh, seven years
1:06:16
Speaker 1: later my degree is in mathematics. Was in mathematics, And uh,
1:06:20
Speaker 1: I say it is because one thing about away tell
1:06:22
Speaker 1: people about education. They can't repull your degree. Can't nobody
1:06:25
Speaker 1: come and go, you know, we're gonna take that off that. No,
1:06:27
Speaker 1: they can't do that. That's that's the beauty of education.
1:06:30
Speaker 1: My minders and sociology and it changed my life. So Roxanne,
1:06:33
Speaker 1: Sunday this uh this uh Sunday, Uh you're starting and
1:06:37
Speaker 1: uh starting for the first time because you've always been
1:06:40
Speaker 1: on that song. Finally is about you, it's your game. Finally,
1:06:45
Speaker 1: Finally you know you should like post to the same
1:06:47
Speaker 1: You know, people go in my own one. You know
1:06:49
Speaker 1: this is about men and the family, about me. So
1:06:53
Speaker 1: but your gifts are so so so amazed and you
1:06:56
Speaker 1: you deserve the ability to speak, You deserve to have
1:06:59
Speaker 1: your own radio show. But what I enjoy the most
1:07:01
Speaker 1: about is that you have a balanced life. And that's
1:07:04
Speaker 1: something I preach about on this show, having that balanced life.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. Oh, one thing that you
1:07:10
Speaker 1: have to do is that in life you must have balance.
1:07:12
Speaker 1: You also have to understand balance that you're gonna have
1:07:15
Speaker 1: good days, You're gonna have bad days, but you need
1:07:17
Speaker 1: to make sure that you don't let your bad days
1:07:19
Speaker 1: overwhelm the possibility of you enjoying your good days. For me,
1:07:23
Speaker 1: I have great balance. I have I have a husband
1:07:26
Speaker 1: who enjoys the things that I enjoy. We watch a
1:07:29
Speaker 1: lot of boxing and we go to a lot of
1:07:30
Speaker 1: boxing matches. Um, we also know that we are pillars
1:07:34
Speaker 1: in the community. So we do a lot of giving back.
1:07:37
Speaker 1: We make sure we do that my children. You know,
1:07:39
Speaker 1: I have a boy and a girl, and um, I'm
1:07:42
Speaker 1: able to spend enough time with both of them for
1:07:45
Speaker 1: them to understand the balance between the two. And um,
1:07:48
Speaker 1: the only thing I don't have this balance, and I'm
1:07:50
Speaker 1: gonna be perfectly honest with you and the listeners is
1:07:53
Speaker 1: my diet. But I'm damn sure working on that. Well,
1:07:57
Speaker 1: where are my friend? You know your your abuty to
1:08:00
Speaker 1: your personality and uh, because I my wife screams about
1:08:03
Speaker 1: that too, So you're not the only one out there
1:08:05
Speaker 1: screaming about I got issues. I got food issues, I
1:08:07
Speaker 1: got eating issues. But more important, you know, your fluidity
1:08:12
Speaker 1: and your ability to communicate is amazing. I could do opportuou.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: I could just listen to you talk a lot, a lot,
1:08:21
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1:08:24
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1:08:26
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1:08:29
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1:08:31
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1:08:34
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1:08:37
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1:08:39
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Speaker 1: a lot of cooks and a lot of chefs in
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Speaker 1: my time. I've done this show since a lot of chefs.
1:12:14
Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. I'm award winning baker. I have an
1:12:17
Speaker 1: app with like eighty recipe baking recipes. Your book, my
1:12:21
Speaker 1: friend and I have like bye bye bye over the years.
1:12:23
Speaker 1: I got by by form they sitting in my house
1:12:26
Speaker 1: that I love yours. Go to the go to the
1:12:29
Speaker 1: top of the line. This is an amazing cookbook. Well,
1:12:31
Speaker 1: I thank you for saying so. I wrote it because
1:12:35
Speaker 1: I wanted to um put out into the world a
1:12:38
Speaker 1: message that if you cook for your family, if you
1:12:41
Speaker 1: cook for your friends, and you do so on a
1:12:43
Speaker 1: regular basis, so that people can think like it doesn't
1:12:47
Speaker 1: have to be a Sunday. It could be a Thursday
1:12:48
Speaker 1: night or a Saturday night. But if people know that
1:12:51
Speaker 1: it's coming and can count on it in some way,
1:12:55
Speaker 1: then they count on you, and you count on them.
1:12:58
Speaker 1: Your life and their lives are gonna be better. And
1:13:01
Speaker 1: the recipes, I'm glad you love them. I love them too,
1:13:05
Speaker 1: but they're incidental to to the message and the messages.
1:13:09
Speaker 1: Regularity matters, and building that kind of community matters, and
1:13:13
Speaker 1: family matters. But I'll tell you I take a much
1:13:19
Speaker 1: wider view of what constitutes family than the dictionary does. Um,
1:13:24
Speaker 1: they're plenty. Anybody's welcome at my table. And I think
1:13:27
Speaker 1: that's important to say and to and to and a
1:13:31
Speaker 1: truth to walk and believe in. Um there, you know,
1:13:35
Speaker 1: I think I say in the book people are lonely.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: You've got to feed them, and you need to find
1:13:39
Speaker 1: them in your community alongside your family. Family the most important.
1:13:43
Speaker 1: But take a wide view of what family is. You know,
1:13:47
Speaker 1: it's really interesting you say that because I come from
1:13:49
Speaker 1: a big family, you know, six sisters, two brothers when
1:13:51
Speaker 1: I was growing up. And I've become successful in my life.
1:13:55
Speaker 1: I travel a lot, so I tend to eat by
1:13:56
Speaker 1: myself a lot. And right, and I really don't appreciate
1:13:59
Speaker 1: the meal. I'm just consuming the meal. And and that's
1:14:03
Speaker 1: not fair to the moment I feel. And sometimes I
1:14:06
Speaker 1: see other people and and you know, and and I've
1:14:09
Speaker 1: actually walked to other people's tables. Hey, you like the company.
1:14:12
Speaker 1: You know, some people have looked at me where you're
1:14:14
Speaker 1: you know, and but that that, but I know that
1:14:17
Speaker 1: some people have sat down. We had a marvelous time
1:14:19
Speaker 1: the moment of dinner. It was extended longer and uh,
1:14:24
Speaker 1: and we learned something about each other. You know and
1:14:26
Speaker 1: and and our values have were shared there. And that's
1:14:29
Speaker 1: what dinner time and eating really supposed to be about.
1:14:32
Speaker 1: It supposed to be an experience in the moment, correct,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what you're sharing in this book.
1:14:37
Speaker 1: I completely agree that is what that is what I like.
1:14:39
Speaker 1: But you raise a really interesting point, which is that
1:14:43
Speaker 1: for for those of us who have seen some success
1:14:46
Speaker 1: in their in their lives, it does lead to travel,
1:14:49
Speaker 1: and it doesn't generally lead to solo travel. And you
1:14:53
Speaker 1: know you're describing that, I've been that. I've been that
1:14:55
Speaker 1: guy sitting alone at the bar with the book those
1:14:59
Speaker 1: Wings and thinking I'm supposed to be the guy telling
1:15:02
Speaker 1: everybody to share a family dinner and I'm eating to
1:15:07
Speaker 1: play the wings alone at the hotel bar. I think
1:15:11
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that that we need to reach out
1:15:14
Speaker 1: and try every time we gather in the presence of
1:15:17
Speaker 1: food and drink to to to connect. Yeah, because it's
1:15:21
Speaker 1: what great food leads to a great atmosphere, leads to
1:15:24
Speaker 1: a good conversation, leads to a relationship building moment. And
1:15:28
Speaker 1: that's why I really just let me tell you that
1:15:30
Speaker 1: I got your book if it came in the A
1:15:32
Speaker 1: Ups yesterday afternoon, and I arrived home, so I knew
1:15:36
Speaker 1: it was at my house, and so immediately opened these
1:15:39
Speaker 1: recipe books up and I go to the front of
1:15:42
Speaker 1: the back and I go, and I like, I got
1:15:44
Speaker 1: over the years, I got liked by four books, and uh,
1:15:47
Speaker 1: your book. I immediately went to the dessert section and
1:15:49
Speaker 1: I went to Peach Packe and I read that. I go,
1:15:54
Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me. Is that easy? That's simple?
1:15:59
Speaker 1: Your recipes wrote your book A frighteningly simple. Yeah, they're
1:16:04
Speaker 1: designed to be my belief is, and my belief is
1:16:09
Speaker 1: and you know that I've said this before. Um, they're
1:16:12
Speaker 1: trying to trick us half the time with these recipes
1:16:15
Speaker 1: that make it like it's like it's a science experiment
1:16:18
Speaker 1: or you're building a rocket to go to the moon.
1:16:20
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be that way. If you think
1:16:22
Speaker 1: how your mother or your grandmother cooked, there wasn't it
1:16:27
Speaker 1: wasn't complicated. Um, it's just a it's a it's step
1:16:31
Speaker 1: by step by step. And I try as much as possible,
1:16:35
Speaker 1: and in my development of the recipes and my writing
1:16:37
Speaker 1: of the recipes, to make the language as clear as
1:16:40
Speaker 1: possible so that there's no mystery to it um and
1:16:45
Speaker 1: I'm not invested in making anyone believe that it's more
1:16:49
Speaker 1: complicated than it really is. Uh, it should be simple.
1:16:53
Speaker 1: It is simple. I'm talking to Sam Sifton his book
1:16:56
Speaker 1: See You on Sunday, a cookbook for family and France.
1:16:59
Speaker 1: So I getting and so I cook a lot, I
1:17:01
Speaker 1: bake a lot. So you have. You have a great
1:17:04
Speaker 1: portion of the book how to set up your kitchen.
1:17:06
Speaker 1: You know, getting ready. You should always be ready for
1:17:08
Speaker 1: the moment. I was ready for the moment when this
1:17:09
Speaker 1: book arrives. Okay, Sam, so so so I went to
1:17:13
Speaker 1: this section and said, pan roasted chicken thighs. And I'm
1:17:16
Speaker 1: telling you on on Tuesday, I just went to the
1:17:19
Speaker 1: store and bought some chicken thigh I love chicken thighs,
1:17:21
Speaker 1: chicken breast. I just like the keeping and draw mat.
1:17:24
Speaker 1: I like to keep them in there. I could just
1:17:25
Speaker 1: put some sometimes some just some cream e mushroom soup
1:17:28
Speaker 1: over them and put some cheese on the Bam, it's
1:17:30
Speaker 1: ready for me, like Craig and so so I went
1:17:33
Speaker 1: in there, I went, okay, now this this is too simple.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: Twil bone and skin on chicken thighs, kasher salt, freshly
1:17:39
Speaker 1: ground black pepper, a half a cup of of oral
1:17:43
Speaker 1: such as canola or grape seed. That's it. Yeah, man,
1:17:48
Speaker 1: that's it. I kid you not. I followed these instructions
1:17:55
Speaker 1: and had a marvelous meal last night. Marvels even chicken
1:18:01
Speaker 1: you need the cream and mushroom soup. You didn't need
1:18:03
Speaker 1: to check checking this this this right here. You know,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: I never met you saying I fell in love with
1:18:11
Speaker 1: you right there, my brother, we became brethren and food
1:18:14
Speaker 1: right there. I was eating by myself. But I was
1:18:17
Speaker 1: thinking about you the whole time. And that's the purpose
1:18:19
Speaker 1: of this book. Correct, God is correct. Although I would
1:18:23
Speaker 1: hope that we could um not just eat alone, but
1:18:27
Speaker 1: eat was a group of people and sharing the fellowship
1:18:31
Speaker 1: of the table and and watch our lives improve over
1:18:36
Speaker 1: time as a result. Well, you know the thing when
1:18:38
Speaker 1: I when I said that thinking about you is that,
1:18:40
Speaker 1: you know, just personalized in my life because a lot
1:18:44
Speaker 1: of times I eat, I just eat, okay, And and
1:18:46
Speaker 1: but this time I was enjoying the meal. I was
1:18:48
Speaker 1: enjoying the journey of how I got to the middle,
1:18:50
Speaker 1: and enjoying the person who brought this experience to me.
1:18:54
Speaker 1: And that was important for me to say in this
1:18:57
Speaker 1: interview with you, and important to tell people why I'm
1:19:00
Speaker 1: so I'm so excited about this book. See you on Sunday.
1:19:03
Speaker 1: You know it's a great book is by Sam Syfton,
1:19:06
Speaker 1: Food editor of The New York Times. And when I
1:19:09
Speaker 1: when I when I go through the book, you know
1:19:10
Speaker 1: it opens what you talk about family, talk about your kids,
1:19:13
Speaker 1: and you talk about the importance of that relationship. But
1:19:16
Speaker 1: the point that really I really liked about its early
1:19:19
Speaker 1: on in the book, how to p call it, how
1:19:23
Speaker 1: to set up your kitchen? How to this? Why that
1:19:25
Speaker 1: so important? Well, I think it's important to kind of
1:19:29
Speaker 1: set the stage for how you're actually going to get
1:19:32
Speaker 1: this done. I see it as my job to give
1:19:35
Speaker 1: you the confidence, uh to execute these recipes, to to
1:19:40
Speaker 1: execute a change in your life where you're cooking on
1:19:44
Speaker 1: the regular for family and friends. And in order to
1:19:47
Speaker 1: do that, I think you need to have you gotta
1:19:50
Speaker 1: have your stuff, correct, You gotta have the tools that
1:19:53
Speaker 1: you need, you gotta have the pantry supplies that you need.
1:19:56
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of stuff, right right, But it's
1:20:00
Speaker 1: really not like it's not bossy, it's not impossible. It's
1:20:04
Speaker 1: just kind of getting your stuff correct so that you
1:20:08
Speaker 1: can execute uh, the recipes. And I think it's like
1:20:14
Speaker 1: just breaking it down as simply as possible offers people
1:20:18
Speaker 1: on the chance to be confident that they're gonna have
1:20:22
Speaker 1: a successful outcome when they turn to a recipe. I
1:20:25
Speaker 1: think too often when I read a recipe, I'm not
1:20:29
Speaker 1: set up for it. I'm like, wait, what, Chetta what?
1:20:34
Speaker 1: And I don't want to ever put anybody in that
1:20:37
Speaker 1: position where they think, oh gosh, this isn't for me.
1:20:41
Speaker 1: Guess what it is for you. I don't care where
1:20:43
Speaker 1: you're from, but I don't care how old you are, young,
1:20:46
Speaker 1: you are, where you live in the country. You're going
1:20:48
Speaker 1: to be able to pull these recipes off and have
1:20:51
Speaker 1: a good result with your friends and your family. Man,
1:20:55
Speaker 1: this is awesome. You're we're listening to Sam Sifton his great,
1:20:58
Speaker 1: amazing book recipe book, Cookbook, uh family book, see you
1:21:02
Speaker 1: on Sunday, a cookbook for family and friends. People right back,
1:21:05
Speaker 1: because now I'm gonna break down these recipes. I'm not
1:21:07
Speaker 1: gonna get you all the recipes, but we got to
1:21:09
Speaker 1: talk about this is the book, a book to you, y'all.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: This is the Bible recipe books. Here, Sam has created
1:21:15
Speaker 1: something that I'm gonna tell you. I'm saying, my wife
1:21:18
Speaker 1: just got back in town. She's gonna fight me for
1:21:20
Speaker 1: this book. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of
1:21:23
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell,
1:21:27
Speaker 1: please work on the money Making Conversations. Comedian Dean Cole.
1:21:30
Speaker 1: A lot of people fail to realize when you're look
1:21:33
Speaker 1: in the mirror every morning, you passed the most unique
1:21:36
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And I talked about this in
1:21:38
Speaker 1: my stand up. You are unique in every way. You
1:21:41
Speaker 1: gotta look at what's unique and you and then capitalize
1:21:45
Speaker 1: on that. Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot
1:21:50
Speaker 1: McDonald and you're listening to Money Making Conversation. I'm excited.
1:21:53
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm a foodie. Everybody love no I love dessert.
1:21:56
Speaker 1: Everybody know that if I if I see a good meal,
1:21:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about it. If I see a
1:22:00
Speaker 1: good meal, if I'm eating a good meal, I take
1:22:01
Speaker 1: a picture and forced to post it. I have this
1:22:03
Speaker 1: uh blog of my social media called Rashaan Eats where
1:22:07
Speaker 1: I travel around and if I eat a great meal,
1:22:09
Speaker 1: I take a picture and post it and help recommend
1:22:11
Speaker 1: people to uh go to this restaurant and eat the
1:22:14
Speaker 1: particular meal that I am so enjoyed at that restaurant.
1:22:17
Speaker 1: And and everybody knows that when I sit down and eat,
1:22:19
Speaker 1: I will order my dessert before I order my meal,
1:22:22
Speaker 1: because I love my desserts, but also I love good food.
1:22:25
Speaker 1: And this book that I'm talking about on the show today,
1:22:29
Speaker 1: See You on Sunday at Cookbook for Family and Friends.
1:22:31
Speaker 1: It's one of the best books recipe books I've ever read.
1:22:35
Speaker 1: And I've been involved with television and radio since two thousand,
1:22:40
Speaker 1: so talking to roughly twenty years of reading books and
1:22:45
Speaker 1: interviewing the chefs, booking chefs, booking the author's of cookbooks
1:22:51
Speaker 1: and recipe books. This is by far as the best
1:22:53
Speaker 1: book I've ever read. See You on Sunday, A Cookbook
1:22:55
Speaker 1: for Family and Friends. When I say that to yourself,
1:22:57
Speaker 1: what runs through your mind? I'm just so thankful. I'm
1:23:01
Speaker 1: so thankful to you for saying that. I'm so thankful
1:23:04
Speaker 1: for the twenty years I put into learning how to
1:23:07
Speaker 1: write about food and learning how to report about food.
1:23:11
Speaker 1: All I ever wanted to do is communicate um that
1:23:14
Speaker 1: that cooking could make your life better and make other
1:23:17
Speaker 1: people's lives better. That it's a kind of service, a
1:23:20
Speaker 1: form of service that matters, and to here reflected in
1:23:25
Speaker 1: your joy Uh, overjoys, I'm overjoyed. Well, i'nna take you.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some when you when you when
1:23:32
Speaker 1: you sit down to cook and think about it, because
1:23:34
Speaker 1: you know food is important to you and that's a's
1:23:37
Speaker 1: and you can't live without it. That's gonna be real.
1:23:41
Speaker 1: And so so what what started you on that journey?
1:23:44
Speaker 1: Who pointed you in the direction that of this this
1:23:46
Speaker 1: passion that you have. Now, Well, it's interesting. I grew
1:23:49
Speaker 1: up in New York City. In New York City is
1:23:51
Speaker 1: a great food town, so you know, in a remarkably
1:23:56
Speaker 1: diverse restaurant scene, and you can't as a kid, you'r
1:24:00
Speaker 1: and everything from you know, you're eating slices of pizza
1:24:02
Speaker 1: and Chinese food and there's some Sri Lankan place because
1:24:06
Speaker 1: there's a kid in your third grade class who parents
1:24:08
Speaker 1: running eat there, and I mean it's just crazy. But
1:24:12
Speaker 1: so that's those are the kind of table steaks of
1:24:15
Speaker 1: being a New York kid. But when I got to college,
1:24:17
Speaker 1: I needed to make money, uh, and I had a
1:24:20
Speaker 1: roommate who was a bartender at a fancy restaurant in town.
1:24:24
Speaker 1: And the waitresses in this fancy restaurant were beautiful, and
1:24:28
Speaker 1: I thought, I gotta try and get a job in there.
1:24:31
Speaker 1: And I got a job as the cash year, and
1:24:36
Speaker 1: the cashier also pulled coffee for the customers and for
1:24:40
Speaker 1: the kitchen staff. And these guys would come out of
1:24:43
Speaker 1: the kitchen and their whites and bandanas and sweaty with
1:24:46
Speaker 1: their knives, and I'd make them these giant coffee drinks.
1:24:50
Speaker 1: And I was like, those guys are cool. I want
1:24:53
Speaker 1: to try that. And so I went to the chef
1:24:55
Speaker 1: and I asked if I could work in the kitchen,
1:24:58
Speaker 1: and he gave me a job as a as a
1:25:00
Speaker 1: prep cook, and I worked my way up over the
1:25:03
Speaker 1: course of my college career to do a pretty good
1:25:07
Speaker 1: job as a line cook there. Um. And I always
1:25:11
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be a journalist, but all of
1:25:13
Speaker 1: a sudden I had another trade, another adrenalized tragedy um,
1:25:18
Speaker 1: and I loved it. And the combination of my desire
1:25:23
Speaker 1: to be a journalist and my love of my time
1:25:27
Speaker 1: in the kitchen yielded a pretty good career. And my
1:25:32
Speaker 1: friend here's the beauty of this whole conversation that we
1:25:35
Speaker 1: have it. I'm just gonna tell you why this book
1:25:37
Speaker 1: excited me. Okay, because I'm a Southern boar. I have
1:25:41
Speaker 1: lived in New York, I have lived in Chicago. I
1:25:43
Speaker 1: may live years in New York. I lived in the
1:25:45
Speaker 1: Upper east Side, and then I lived in thirty thirty
1:25:47
Speaker 1: nine in first and so in all overhaul, I'm not
1:25:52
Speaker 1: eating in Brooklyn. And I lived in Chicago for four years.
1:25:54
Speaker 1: I lived in Los Angeles for fifteen years. I live
1:25:57
Speaker 1: in I live currently in Atlanti since two thousand and seven.
1:26:01
Speaker 1: And I was born and raised in Houston, Texas. So
1:26:03
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy and then and also as
1:26:05
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian, I traveled all over this country
1:26:08
Speaker 1: telling Joe So, I've eaten all over this country. And
1:26:11
Speaker 1: so when I get this book, I get that, I
1:26:14
Speaker 1: get I get my my life experience of eating. I'm
1:26:18
Speaker 1: tell you why, y'all. Okay, he is Delaware fried chicken
1:26:21
Speaker 1: in there, Okay, Because you know, as I go through
1:26:23
Speaker 1: this menu check it, I'm trying to figure out who
1:26:25
Speaker 1: am I talking to? Am I talking to black guy?
1:26:27
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking to my mamma, talk to a white guy,
1:26:30
Speaker 1: you know. Then he goes to the best glaze ham,
1:26:33
Speaker 1: then he goes to barbecue brisket, and then he goes
1:26:36
Speaker 1: to corn bread. But check out, he makes his corn
1:26:38
Speaker 1: bread though flour and corn meal or I know I'm
1:26:41
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble for that with some of your listeners. Flower,
1:26:46
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm making that. Sam,
1:26:49
Speaker 1: you know, it's no way I don't make that that
1:26:53
Speaker 1: right there, and then he then he falls it up
1:26:54
Speaker 1: with corn pudding. If that's not enough, gumbo, this was
1:27:03
Speaker 1: this was threw me. This was threw me. Jamaican hackstails do.
1:27:08
Speaker 1: That's so that's a classic of New York. That is
1:27:11
Speaker 1: a classic. So can I tell you about that, Stu?
1:27:17
Speaker 1: Please tell me because I'm going like, Okay, who am
1:27:19
Speaker 1: I going to interview tomorrow? Five to ten people? I'm
1:27:22
Speaker 1: gonna interview tomorrow. You're just interviewing. I've been listen. I
1:27:27
Speaker 1: was a national news editor of the New York Times.
1:27:29
Speaker 1: It's not telling jokes, but it does get you around
1:27:31
Speaker 1: the country. So I've eaten all over this great land,
1:27:36
Speaker 1: but I come back again and again to New York
1:27:39
Speaker 1: City and the diversity that it offers. There is a
1:27:42
Speaker 1: small family owned Jamaican restaurant business here in New York
1:27:46
Speaker 1: called Golden Crust. They make patties. I love you stores exactly,
1:27:53
Speaker 1: but they have a couple of actual retail restaurants and
1:27:58
Speaker 1: I've been going to one or two of them for
1:28:01
Speaker 1: most of my adult life. And I'm a very polite person,
1:28:05
Speaker 1: and I go in and I was, and but there
1:28:07
Speaker 1: have been times when when the road has been difficult
1:28:10
Speaker 1: and I've been a little let's say, not wealthy, but broke,
1:28:16
Speaker 1: and I couldn't go for the full platter of rice
1:28:19
Speaker 1: and peas um oxtail stew, and the cabins right, So
1:28:24
Speaker 1: I would ask for rice and peas, and then I
1:28:26
Speaker 1: would say, could I have some oxtail gravy on that?
1:28:30
Speaker 1: And these women would look at me like what is it?
1:28:32
Speaker 1: Like I ask, and then they would give it to
1:28:34
Speaker 1: me and it was delicious. Anyway. I eventually became, you know,
1:28:38
Speaker 1: a reporter at the New York Times, and I was
1:28:39
Speaker 1: able to get through to the family and tell them
1:28:42
Speaker 1: this story and ask them if they could share with me,
1:28:45
Speaker 1: uh their recipe for for oxtail stew, which they did
1:28:50
Speaker 1: extremely reluctantly. Um, and with very good reason. And I
1:28:55
Speaker 1: worked on it and worked on it, worked on it,
1:28:57
Speaker 1: and that I'm very proud of that recipe. That's a
1:29:00
Speaker 1: damn good look. Okay, Now I'm not through everybody. I'm
1:29:04
Speaker 1: not through because he's hitting he's hitting more home runs
1:29:07
Speaker 1: with your ball here, Rashana. Then he goes in the
1:29:09
Speaker 1: crab cake to love. But this is what got me
1:29:12
Speaker 1: because I've always wanted to know how to make risulto.
1:29:15
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rasulto. Okay, did you'll just hear what I
1:29:20
Speaker 1: just said. Barbecue, fried chicken, corn bread, corn putting, gumbo,
1:29:24
Speaker 1: Jamaican oxstair, crab cakes, rizzuto, all in the same book here,
1:29:29
Speaker 1: All very simple, already very easy to read. And believe
1:29:34
Speaker 1: that you can do it. That's that's what I love
1:29:35
Speaker 1: about your book. When I when I look at the recipe,
1:29:37
Speaker 1: I believe I can accomplish that. You can't accomplish that,
1:29:42
Speaker 1: and that's important. And then I'm not through everybody. I'm
1:29:45
Speaker 1: not through. Then he goes to college greens hamhocks are turkey.
1:29:50
Speaker 1: Then he goes to pizza. Then he goes to some
1:29:53
Speaker 1: smothered pork chops, oh Sun. Then he goes to the
1:29:58
Speaker 1: dessert section where I fall in love with him for
1:30:01
Speaker 1: real fruit cobbler, peach pie, banana foster. And then this
1:30:08
Speaker 1: one I knew he was the real deal. This is
1:30:10
Speaker 1: one I'm gonna tell everybody. This is what I knew.
1:30:12
Speaker 1: Sam Sifton was the real deal. Baked banana putting. Oh
1:30:17
Speaker 1: that's a delicious you should make that tonight. Hey, Sam,
1:30:24
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get you now, I'm gonna send you photos.
1:30:27
Speaker 1: And you know who you're talking to. This is what
1:30:30
Speaker 1: I do, my brother, this is what I do. Okay,
1:30:32
Speaker 1: we are we are friends. And I'm going to promote
1:30:35
Speaker 1: you because not only because you're you're you're good people,
1:30:38
Speaker 1: but you got a book that will relax a lot
1:30:40
Speaker 1: of people and invite them into the kitchen to do
1:30:42
Speaker 1: something they may have been reluctant to do. All we want,
1:30:47
Speaker 1: that's all we want. Thank you, thank you. Wow, it
1:30:51
Speaker 1: just it just and then he has and then he
1:30:52
Speaker 1: has to broken up in the chapter like Big met
1:30:55
Speaker 1: the chapter three Rights is chapter five, you know, so
1:30:58
Speaker 1: he kind of he has fun with it, you know,
1:31:01
Speaker 1: big pops. So these are these are the titles of
1:31:04
Speaker 1: the chapters, so they have fun chapters, easy to read, chapters,
1:31:07
Speaker 1: great beautiful photos that he has laid out throughout the book.
1:31:12
Speaker 1: It's not over, it's not it's not crushed with photos,
1:31:15
Speaker 1: but it's not photos. Let you know, this is how
1:31:16
Speaker 1: this may look because some books do that, they have
1:31:18
Speaker 1: so many photos. You go, Okay, what am I loving
1:31:20
Speaker 1: too much? Too much? Too much? What am I doing?
1:31:22
Speaker 1: What am I doing? What am I doing? So Sam,
1:31:25
Speaker 1: what we started in the beginning talking about the book.
1:31:28
Speaker 1: You've heard me interview you. Now I'm you know, I'm
1:31:31
Speaker 1: a fan. You know, I'm telling the world that this
1:31:33
Speaker 1: is one stop shopping book right here. Okay, this is
1:31:36
Speaker 1: this is it? What What do you want the person
1:31:40
Speaker 1: who buys this book to walk away from this? I
1:31:44
Speaker 1: want them to walk away with a sense of confidence
1:31:47
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to make their lives
1:31:49
Speaker 1: better and make the lives of those they serve better
1:31:53
Speaker 1: simply by cooking simple food filled with their love and
1:31:58
Speaker 1: my instruction. Uh. And then they do that enough times,
1:32:02
Speaker 1: those recipes become theirs, and they become something to pass
1:32:06
Speaker 1: on to others. And that's how, uh, you know, we
1:32:11
Speaker 1: keep eating fried chicken, that's how we keep making peach five.
1:32:15
Speaker 1: But we're passing down these recipes from from friend to friend,
1:32:20
Speaker 1: from generation to generation, and here in the presence of
1:32:23
Speaker 1: this book, I think we're doing so in UH in
1:32:27
Speaker 1: a way that intentionally makes lives better. That's what I want,
1:32:32
Speaker 1: and you're you're delivering it again. UH an exceptional book
1:32:35
Speaker 1: to read, a fun book to UH cook out of,
1:32:38
Speaker 1: to bake out of. The recipes are amazingly. Every once
1:32:41
Speaker 1: in a while, you know, you might get an extended one,
1:32:43
Speaker 1: but overall, even then extended ones. You know, I enjoyed reading.
1:32:47
Speaker 1: I realized that I can pull that off because it's
1:32:49
Speaker 1: such a confidence I would tell you this say, this
1:32:52
Speaker 1: book is a very confident confidence building book. If you're
1:32:56
Speaker 1: walking into the kitchen for the for you know several
1:32:58
Speaker 1: times and wanted to do that like barbecue pork real,
1:33:01
Speaker 1: you need to stop, man, you need to stop. You
1:33:04
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1:33:06
Speaker 1: I didn't I missed that one. Grill, baby, back reels,
1:33:09
Speaker 1: you know, teasers, brisket, what not you missing with my country? Texas?
1:33:13
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1:33:18
Speaker 1: rice and beans, read rice p lost. This is this book.
1:33:22
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1:34:29
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1:34:36
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1:34:38
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1:35:52
Speaker 1: she speaks to men nationally the champion change for the
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1:35:59
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1:36:03
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1:36:06
Speaker 1: of abundance and economic empowerment. Please welcome to Money Making
1:36:10
Speaker 1: Conversations from Australia. Marry in May. Good morning. Well, it's
1:36:17
Speaker 1: afternoon where we're and so and I'm feeling really good
1:36:23
Speaker 1: about the opportunities that we're having on the air right now,
1:36:26
Speaker 1: and so tell us about Okay, first of all, I'll
1:36:29
Speaker 1: calling Australia. The big news in Australia have been the
1:36:31
Speaker 1: fires in Australia right there. Is it dominated the news
1:36:35
Speaker 1: to my understanding that they're they're starting to calm down.
1:36:38
Speaker 1: Correct correct, So, um we I'm in Melbourne, Australia in
1:36:43
Speaker 1: the State of Victoria and for the first time ever
1:36:46
Speaker 1: we were declared a state of emergency that was pushed
1:36:50
Speaker 1: through parliament and government. Um. Yeah, it's dominated the news
1:36:54
Speaker 1: and it's affected as you read, our wildlife and not
1:36:58
Speaker 1: only people. Um, but we had unexpected rain helped the
1:37:04
Speaker 1: situation and things have definitely um decreased in terms of
1:37:09
Speaker 1: the spread of fire. So it's great news. Well, you know,
1:37:12
Speaker 1: it's really uh it's sad that that can dominate news
1:37:15
Speaker 1: because you don't want it to dominate the movie because
1:37:18
Speaker 1: basically when nature gets abused in that manner, we uh
1:37:24
Speaker 1: we all we find out how helpless we are. Okay, Uh,
1:37:27
Speaker 1: there's no magic switches you can drop and it stops
1:37:30
Speaker 1: and so but the helpless part about it is the
1:37:33
Speaker 1: is the devastation to the wildlife. You know that that
1:37:37
Speaker 1: has been that has been the I mean, uh, just
1:37:41
Speaker 1: just hunger. While animals coming up because they're hungry. You know,
1:37:45
Speaker 1: they were normally not come to two civilians because they thirsty,
1:37:50
Speaker 1: they need some form of nourishment and when they try
1:37:52
Speaker 1: to uh take care of when they die anyway, So
1:37:57
Speaker 1: when when you read about this that's going on, and
1:37:59
Speaker 1: I'm reading about it big because It's part of being
1:38:00
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur because it effects business has fixed tourism is
1:38:04
Speaker 1: faxed so many ways. It fixed housing effects of our
1:38:07
Speaker 1: people look at things because they redirect their funds someplace else,
1:38:10
Speaker 1: and it can almost halt an economic growth process in
1:38:14
Speaker 1: a country and especially in a city. So where are
1:38:17
Speaker 1: you guys at right now? Is financial from an economic
1:38:20
Speaker 1: standpoint in Melbourne in Australia, Well, Melbourne is a really
1:38:26
Speaker 1: robust you know where we're a major city just like
1:38:29
Speaker 1: Sydney Australia. Um. But we you know, we always have
1:38:32
Speaker 1: this rivalry going on with Sydney. Things that we're better, um.
1:38:36
Speaker 1: And Melbourne is forecast to be the biggest and the
1:38:39
Speaker 1: strongest city over the course of the next decade. Our
1:38:43
Speaker 1: economy is robust and strong. But of course these regional
1:38:46
Speaker 1: areas that were now referring to where we had an
1:38:49
Speaker 1: excessive sixteen fires, um. There they're the local regional economy,
1:38:55
Speaker 1: so they rely heavily on tourism, spend to stay afloat um.
1:39:00
Speaker 1: But as far as the city of Melbourne Australia goes,
1:39:03
Speaker 1: where a robot strong, dynamic economy. Cool. Now, your company,
1:39:07
Speaker 1: let's go personally start talking about you because I wanted
1:39:09
Speaker 1: to bring your brand awareness. But I would have been
1:39:13
Speaker 1: remissed to speak to somebody from Australia and not get
1:39:16
Speaker 1: an update. You know, I know them in the first time.
1:39:18
Speaker 1: But Shane, I you know your hat are on the phone.
1:39:21
Speaker 1: You can say nothing like that. And so we're spoking
1:39:25
Speaker 1: about that. Now, let's talk about you because of effects
1:39:28
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are going on, your passion,
1:39:30
Speaker 1: your your mission statements. Now the name of your company.
1:39:33
Speaker 1: The first name is your mother's name, and your lad
1:39:36
Speaker 1: the last also the last name of your father. Explain,
1:39:40
Speaker 1: give us your name of the company. I mean, why
1:39:41
Speaker 1: did you do that? So the company name is called
1:39:45
Speaker 1: Failure Stanley Group. And essentially, when I was in my
1:39:50
Speaker 1: early twenties and starting my business career, unexpectedly I lost
1:39:55
Speaker 1: both of my parents in my early twenties, and when
1:39:58
Speaker 1: I created this business model, I wanted it to embody
1:40:03
Speaker 1: the spirit of both my mother and father because I
1:40:06
Speaker 1: intend to leave a very big legacy in terms of
1:40:09
Speaker 1: bringing financial literacy to all women and all girls across Australia.
1:40:13
Speaker 1: So when we were sitting down and deciding on a name,
1:40:16
Speaker 1: and the marketing people had all the ideas or great ideas. UM.
1:40:21
Speaker 1: I just knew that Celia Stammy was what UM I
1:40:25
Speaker 1: wanted to embody and that was the qualities and the
1:40:27
Speaker 1: values and the characteristics of both my parents and doing
1:40:31
Speaker 1: this work that means it's a passion. So I also
1:40:35
Speaker 1: read that you're you're champion for a signing spotlight on
1:40:38
Speaker 1: the homelessness in ast Yes, I am UM. We have
1:40:44
Speaker 1: not like any other UM western country around the world,
1:40:48
Speaker 1: a homeless epidemic here in Australia and in fact, women
1:40:52
Speaker 1: over the age of fifty five are our fastest growing
1:40:55
Speaker 1: demographic of homelessness in this country. UM. Last year ATE,
1:41:00
Speaker 1: last year, I was officially appointed as an ambassador for
1:41:05
Speaker 1: the international organization St. Vincent De Paul's Society UM. And
1:41:09
Speaker 1: every year we have what's called a CEO sleep Out
1:41:13
Speaker 1: where the heads of major corporations sleep out on the
1:41:17
Speaker 1: street to raise money for homelessness UM and we raise
1:41:21
Speaker 1: substantial money, like in the tens of means and so UM.
1:41:25
Speaker 1: For the last three years I've done that CEO sleep
1:41:28
Speaker 1: out and raise money for homelessness and then last year
1:41:31
Speaker 1: the organization offered me a position as an official ambassador UM.
1:41:36
Speaker 1: And some of the work that I do directly relates
1:41:39
Speaker 1: to trying to prevent women over fifty becoming homeless. Now
1:41:44
Speaker 1: when is that done? Do you as it just wrapped?
1:41:47
Speaker 1: The third the Witch sleep out for the CEOs, has
1:41:49
Speaker 1: that wrapped? Has it? What? Sorry? Have you completed it
1:41:52
Speaker 1: already or is it coming up? So what happens is yes,
1:41:55
Speaker 1: So we do it every year and in the middle
1:41:56
Speaker 1: of winter. They picked the absolute coldest, wettest day and
1:42:00
Speaker 1: the day that we're to sleep out, So that's coming
1:42:02
Speaker 1: up in um I think June or July, so a
1:42:06
Speaker 1: little while to go and we and we do it
1:42:09
Speaker 1: in the middle of winter to get appreciation of what
1:42:12
Speaker 1: it must be like for somebody to be displaced and homeless,
1:42:15
Speaker 1: living on the street in those conditions. So I will
1:42:17
Speaker 1: tell you this mismays our relationship is not a one
1:42:21
Speaker 1: off and so I want to be a part of
1:42:24
Speaker 1: that as far as information, so I can promote it
1:42:26
Speaker 1: on my social media and making it make it more
1:42:29
Speaker 1: of a the Niner states aware of it. It becomes
1:42:33
Speaker 1: an international event because it sounds pretty amazing. It sounds
1:42:35
Speaker 1: like something we should be doing over here. We do
1:42:39
Speaker 1: it in every state across Australia. So CEOs from all
1:42:42
Speaker 1: the major organizations come together for one night in every
1:42:45
Speaker 1: state across Australia and we all do the sleep out
1:42:48
Speaker 1: individually in each state. I think this year it's going
1:42:51
Speaker 1: to be even more important for us because we have
1:42:53
Speaker 1: the devastation of the fires um which is which has
1:42:57
Speaker 1: displaced so many people, like so many people have you
1:43:00
Speaker 1: slee lost their homes um. So this year our efforts
1:43:04
Speaker 1: are going to be even stronger and the event is
1:43:06
Speaker 1: going to be even more important for us. Well. Again,
1:43:08
Speaker 1: everything that you're doing is derived through your passion. What
1:43:11
Speaker 1: do Because you say you lost your parents at an
1:43:13
Speaker 1: early age, what did they? Was the passion built through
1:43:18
Speaker 1: your relationship with your parents or after they left your
1:43:20
Speaker 1: life you fouled your passion. No, I think at a
1:43:25
Speaker 1: very early age I always knew that I had a
1:43:28
Speaker 1: calling to be in service and to help others, and
1:43:31
Speaker 1: that was innate in me as a child. I remember
1:43:34
Speaker 1: like taking personal items from my parents home and giving
1:43:37
Speaker 1: them away to people who I thought were poorer than us,
1:43:40
Speaker 1: and my parents saying like, you know, what what are
1:43:42
Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know. I thought I thought they
1:43:45
Speaker 1: needed the ham more than we did, or I thought
1:43:47
Speaker 1: they needed the clothing more than we did, so it
1:43:50
Speaker 1: was always innate in me. UM. When my parents passed
1:43:53
Speaker 1: away in my early twenties, obviously I had to you know,
1:43:57
Speaker 1: I was literally offriend and I had to economically be
1:44:01
Speaker 1: able to survive and thrive and UM. And that led
1:44:06
Speaker 1: me into a really tenacious work ethic of understanding that
1:44:10
Speaker 1: I'm on my own and I've really got to work
1:44:11
Speaker 1: to make it here. And then, of course vehicle has
1:44:14
Speaker 1: become the vehicle for me to UM really have such
1:44:17
Speaker 1: great success in the work that I do and service,
1:44:20
Speaker 1: serving and helping others UM. And I think success breaks success,
1:44:24
Speaker 1: like the more work that I do and the more
1:44:26
Speaker 1: women that I serve and the more people that I help, UM,
1:44:30
Speaker 1: the more opportunities seem to appear to be able to
1:44:33
Speaker 1: do this work. I as you this because you know,
1:44:36
Speaker 1: I SA listen to. One of the qualities I try
1:44:39
Speaker 1: to break to my show is just we're just in conversation,
1:44:41
Speaker 1: and in conversation you tend to sit back and listen
1:44:44
Speaker 1: to your guests. And when I listen to you, you know,
1:44:47
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems like you give so much
1:44:50
Speaker 1: of your time. Do you have time for yourself? If
1:44:54
Speaker 1: anybody ever asked you that question, what do you what
1:44:56
Speaker 1: do you give back to you? Missmays, Yeah, I do.
1:45:00
Speaker 1: I actually live a really amazing life by design. I
1:45:03
Speaker 1: have organized my work in a way that I'm able
1:45:06
Speaker 1: to live a really great quality of life. I have
1:45:09
Speaker 1: a twelve year old son, Somerset is sitting beside me
1:45:12
Speaker 1: right now, and after we finished this interview, were about
1:45:16
Speaker 1: to go on to a construction site and show a
1:45:19
Speaker 1: woman of property. UM. I do live in service, but
1:45:23
Speaker 1: I found a way to you know, like people have
1:45:26
Speaker 1: this distinction, Ah, this is my work and then separate
1:45:29
Speaker 1: this is my life. UM. I have that distinction too,
1:45:33
Speaker 1: but I found a way to make the two marry together.
1:45:36
Speaker 1: And when I spend time with my clients, it's just
1:45:40
Speaker 1: as pleasant as spending time with people in my personal life.
1:45:43
Speaker 1: But I do live a life by design, and I
1:45:46
Speaker 1: believe in self care and I try to model self
1:45:48
Speaker 1: care for my son. I mean, obviously, having parents who
1:45:51
Speaker 1: both passed away at fifty nine is incentive for me
1:45:54
Speaker 1: to really have a high level of self care. UM.
1:45:59
Speaker 1: So yes, I do. I have. UM, I have lots
1:46:01
Speaker 1: of great quality personal time, particularly with my son. UM.
1:46:05
Speaker 1: But I'm very dedicated to the work because there's just
1:46:08
Speaker 1: so much work to be done, and during Australia Um
1:46:12
Speaker 1: of Financial Literacy for Women, because people they say that
1:46:15
Speaker 1: about me. So it's not nothing, you know that. I
1:46:18
Speaker 1: just throwing it back at you because I love what
1:46:20
Speaker 1: I do. I love that. You know people what time
1:46:23
Speaker 1: you go to bed, said you look at by midnight?
1:46:25
Speaker 1: What time you get up at four o'clock? God, what
1:46:28
Speaker 1: do you what do you do? You're gonna worry, you know,
1:46:30
Speaker 1: because I love what I do. In fact, I'll tell
1:46:32
Speaker 1: people all time, if I could figure out a way
1:46:33
Speaker 1: not to go to sleep, I'll be happy. That means
1:46:36
Speaker 1: I'll just be constantly just doing things that I love
1:46:39
Speaker 1: to do. But unfortunately I have stayed up at the
1:46:42
Speaker 1: most I think about fifty four hours in a row,
1:46:46
Speaker 1: and I was vibrating. I was literally just shaky and
1:46:52
Speaker 1: finding My wife said, you just stop, you need to stop, okay.
1:46:55
Speaker 1: And I say that because of the fact that if
1:46:57
Speaker 1: you're passionate about something, if you're driven by something other,
1:47:00
Speaker 1: you might consider it work if you can. If it's
1:47:02
Speaker 1: a passion, it's considered something that you've been blessed to
1:47:05
Speaker 1: deliver to somebody. If something to make somebody's life better.
1:47:09
Speaker 1: And that seems like you said, that's your calling, that's
1:47:11
Speaker 1: you've been called to do this. Just it's almost like
1:47:14
Speaker 1: a minister being called to the altar to preach, but
1:47:16
Speaker 1: you're called to the altar to make change, to to
1:47:19
Speaker 1: create a more positive life because you have a positive life,
1:47:22
Speaker 1: and that's called helping someone they have a better life
1:47:25
Speaker 1: than your than you. I see you understood that at
1:47:27
Speaker 1: the very early age. I didn't understand that until I
1:47:29
Speaker 1: got older, that you know that I could, I could
1:47:32
Speaker 1: share that I could that I could actually help you.
1:47:35
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1:48:55
Speaker 1: McDonald and you're listening to Money Making Conversations. My guess
1:48:59
Speaker 1: is a lab on the phone. It's in the morning.
1:49:00
Speaker 1: Where she's at uh in Australia, Malbourne, Australia. You know
1:49:05
Speaker 1: I have that I have to change my after articulating
1:49:08
Speaker 1: in a different way where you say Australia, because the
1:49:11
Speaker 1: law knows if I was in Houston, Techia, I said Australia.
1:49:13
Speaker 1: I just mess it all up. But Mary and May
1:49:15
Speaker 1: she's on the phone. And one of the things that
1:49:17
Speaker 1: drew my created relationship that I have with her, it
1:49:20
Speaker 1: was through linked there was that her passion, especially a
1:49:23
Speaker 1: passion for the education of women through financial literacy. And
1:49:27
Speaker 1: one of the things that you read I actually clipped
1:49:29
Speaker 1: out of one of her posts and just paste it
1:49:31
Speaker 1: over there when she wrote about, in my direct experience,
1:49:34
Speaker 1: more than natyve percent of women I encounter in my
1:49:36
Speaker 1: work do not have a current wheel. H yeah, yeah, absolutely,
1:49:43
Speaker 1: So I'll just set the thame for you guys over
1:49:45
Speaker 1: there in terms of what is the climate the economic
1:49:49
Speaker 1: climate here in Australia. So you know, we have the
1:49:52
Speaker 1: gender paga that's real in Australia for women. UM, we
1:49:56
Speaker 1: also have UM, we don't have financial literacy is hig
1:50:00
Speaker 1: of our national academic framework in Australia. So what I
1:50:03
Speaker 1: mean by that is financial literacy is not taught in
1:50:06
Speaker 1: primary schools or high schools or college over here. So
1:50:11
Speaker 1: as a result of that, we have successful women, you
1:50:14
Speaker 1: know who work and have professional careers um, and earn money,
1:50:18
Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily have financial literacy UM. And so
1:50:22
Speaker 1: I run live events across the country. In Melbourne and
1:50:25
Speaker 1: Sydney and up North. Um. And every time I run
1:50:28
Speaker 1: an event, one of the questions I ask is for
1:50:31
Speaker 1: all the women in the room to raise their hands
1:50:33
Speaker 1: to see if they've got a simple basic thing like
1:50:35
Speaker 1: a willing place. Um. And those stats are pretty accurate, accurate.
1:50:40
Speaker 1: I always have a room full of raised hands, um,
1:50:43
Speaker 1: with all of these women who just don't even have
1:50:45
Speaker 1: a basic will in place. Now because of that, what
1:50:50
Speaker 1: does that say about the education? Is it needed? Because
1:50:54
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not going to speak in
1:50:55
Speaker 1: a like I know at all formats, so I kind
1:50:57
Speaker 1: of speak yeah, yeah, sure, So well, I think this
1:51:02
Speaker 1: is how I came to do this work. So I
1:51:04
Speaker 1: used to work in financial services in a corporate capacity,
1:51:08
Speaker 1: in an executive level capacity, and I saw in our
1:51:11
Speaker 1: industry in Australia and the financial services industry, we had
1:51:14
Speaker 1: all of these financial planners. But we also, simultaneously we
1:51:19
Speaker 1: also had statistics that said women are the fifty five
1:51:23
Speaker 1: of the fastest growing demographic of homelessness and nobody, most
1:51:28
Speaker 1: women don't have financial literacy, regardless of whether they have
1:51:31
Speaker 1: a college degree or not. Um. So yes, it's needed.
1:51:36
Speaker 1: I mean it should be in our primary schools. It
1:51:38
Speaker 1: should be in our secondary schools because it's as fundamental
1:51:42
Speaker 1: and as basic as home economics like cooking. Um, but
1:51:46
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have it as a mandatory subject
1:51:48
Speaker 1: in our education system. And so five years ago I
1:51:52
Speaker 1: left the corporate world on a wing and a prayer
1:51:54
Speaker 1: and I said to all my colleagues, I'm going to
1:51:56
Speaker 1: start a company based on financial literacy. And they said,
1:52:00
Speaker 1: you're crazy, mad, Um, there's no such thing as running
1:52:04
Speaker 1: a company for financial literacy. You're going to be a
1:52:08
Speaker 1: committing commercial. Um, you know, suicide. You can't do this.
1:52:12
Speaker 1: And five years later, Um, we've been successfully teaching women
1:52:17
Speaker 1: around Australia financial literacy and these are professional, normal, everyday
1:52:21
Speaker 1: women like me. Right, Well, you know you left something
1:52:26
Speaker 1: that's made sense to me. I left IBM to go
1:52:28
Speaker 1: be a comedian. So you know, it was a lot
1:52:31
Speaker 1: of people looked at me a little bit more skeptical.
1:52:35
Speaker 1: You know, at least you had a plan, at least
1:52:38
Speaker 1: at least at least the word financials in your departure title.
1:52:42
Speaker 1: My title was a comedian. Yeah, but but it's just
1:52:47
Speaker 1: as crazy if you think about it, because my colleagues
1:52:49
Speaker 1: are like, so you're gonna bring adults into a room,
1:52:53
Speaker 1: into a boardroom, into a boardroom, and then you're gonna
1:52:56
Speaker 1: try and tell adults they need to learn financial literacy,
1:52:59
Speaker 1: and you want people to come voluntarily and pay for
1:53:02
Speaker 1: these And I was like, Yea, that's what I'm gonna do.
1:53:06
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. I would let them know
1:53:08
Speaker 1: they are stupid, and I'm actually make them pay for it.
1:53:12
Speaker 1: That's what that's what That's what you did. And you're
1:53:14
Speaker 1: you know, successful at it. You know you you almost
1:53:17
Speaker 1: have me about the red and body ticket for Australia
1:53:19
Speaker 1: for the month of June. That's how good you are.
1:53:21
Speaker 1: You have a skill. Mismays that that that causes people
1:53:26
Speaker 1: to look at you and go where how much when listen?
1:53:30
Speaker 1: Which is really gifted and you should never walk away
1:53:33
Speaker 1: from that skill because it's a blessing. And the fact
1:53:35
Speaker 1: that you're you're turning that skill into trying to educate
1:53:39
Speaker 1: women who have a gender pay gap issue, which you
1:53:44
Speaker 1: can have wheels, you should invest in property. Let's talk
1:53:48
Speaker 1: about that because because it's not just in Australia, it's
1:53:54
Speaker 1: it's it's in the nine States. Okay, same issue. It's
1:53:58
Speaker 1: an epidemic yeah, it's a social epidemic across the western world.
1:54:02
Speaker 1: I think there's a few countries who have found solutions.
1:54:05
Speaker 1: But right now as we speak, I'm outside a construction
1:54:09
Speaker 1: site and I'm meeting a client in about half an hour,
1:54:12
Speaker 1: and just to share her story, she's in her late
1:54:16
Speaker 1: forties and she doesn't have enough money to retire. You know,
1:54:20
Speaker 1: we say here in Australia, if you want to live
1:54:22
Speaker 1: off you know, fifty thousand Australian dollars a year, you
1:54:25
Speaker 1: need about a million dollars invested in super Or if
1:54:28
Speaker 1: you want to live off a hundred thousand a year,
1:54:30
Speaker 1: you need about two million dollars invested in superannuation UM.
1:54:34
Speaker 1: This woman doesn't have that. She's forty nine years old,
1:54:37
Speaker 1: and so we're just about after this interview, we're going
1:54:39
Speaker 1: to go onto a construction site and we're going to
1:54:42
Speaker 1: view a property that she will potentially invest in UM
1:54:45
Speaker 1: for the long term, so that when she is sixty
1:54:48
Speaker 1: years of age UM she will have more money than
1:54:51
Speaker 1: what she is presently on track to have just in
1:54:53
Speaker 1: her superannuation alone. In Australia, basically our employers are mandated
1:54:58
Speaker 1: to pay nine percent of your to little salary into
1:55:01
Speaker 1: a super retirement funds. But you can do that. You
1:55:04
Speaker 1: can do the math. And this didn't start until quite
1:55:07
Speaker 1: late for a lot of women. You can do the math.
1:55:10
Speaker 1: Nine percent of an average shallery in Australia over their
1:55:13
Speaker 1: working life is not going to be sufficient money to retire.
1:55:17
Speaker 1: So UM, So I have started a campaign here in Australia.
1:55:21
Speaker 1: We're just launching it this year. It's my new project. UM.
1:55:25
Speaker 1: It's called Property for Women and the concept behind it
1:55:28
Speaker 1: is that every single woman, regardless of her social background,
1:55:32
Speaker 1: demographic status, religion, color, earning capacity, every single woman should
1:55:37
Speaker 1: own one piece of real estate, one property in her
1:55:40
Speaker 1: own name. UM. And that's a new project that we're
1:55:43
Speaker 1: launching this year. So I'm really excited UM. And their
1:55:47
Speaker 1: spirit behind that is that to have one piece of
1:55:50
Speaker 1: real estate in your own name in Australia means that
1:55:53
Speaker 1: you can borrow money against it. Um, you'll always have
1:55:56
Speaker 1: a roof over your head, you can rent it out
1:55:59
Speaker 1: to earn an income and it really is that preventative
1:56:02
Speaker 1: tool to poverty and homelessness and even financial abuse, which
1:56:07
Speaker 1: has become a big thing in recent years here in Australia. Absolutely, now, okay,
1:56:12
Speaker 1: I hear your tone, I hear your passion. Do you
1:56:15
Speaker 1: have the naysayers out there, the male naysayers, you know
1:56:19
Speaker 1: they call your rebel rouser that trying to well, Yes,
1:56:24
Speaker 1: for five years, really my whole industry because financial out
1:56:29
Speaker 1: they're trying to smart enough don women trying to smart
1:56:32
Speaker 1: en AM out. Well, it's not really conducive to UM.
1:56:37
Speaker 1: It's not really conducive for financial planners for me to
1:56:40
Speaker 1: be educating women on financial matters. So yes, I mean
1:56:43
Speaker 1: for five years, I've not really been embraced by my
1:56:47
Speaker 1: original industry UM. But last year I was very lucky
1:56:52
Speaker 1: that kind of shifted. IM was the lucky recipient of UM,
1:56:56
Speaker 1: a national, prestigious, national award in my industry, and for
1:57:00
Speaker 1: the first time in five years, my work was really
1:57:03
Speaker 1: and the legacy that I'm trying to create was really
1:57:05
Speaker 1: recognized UM. But I think my client's experienced it more
1:57:09
Speaker 1: because really interesting, my clients tell me that when they
1:57:12
Speaker 1: first meet me and they have low financial literacy, they
1:57:15
Speaker 1: don't have much confidence, and then all of a sudden,
1:57:18
Speaker 1: you know, within six months, they're investing in property and
1:57:21
Speaker 1: they're saving money and they're buying shares. It's the people
1:57:25
Speaker 1: around them, the men at work, the people in their
1:57:27
Speaker 1: life saying what are you doing? And they're saying, well,
1:57:30
Speaker 1: you know, I met this woman and I'm doing this,
1:57:32
Speaker 1: and and the skepticism kicks in and you know you
1:57:34
Speaker 1: should be careful and you know you don't know what
1:57:37
Speaker 1: kind of investments you're putting her into. And um so
1:57:41
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, And I think we fear anything we don't
1:57:44
Speaker 1: really understand. But I also think in this country is
1:57:48
Speaker 1: there's a conditioning and a comfort. So I'll give you
1:57:51
Speaker 1: an example. Maybe shocking, but it's true. In Australia, the
1:57:54
Speaker 1: gender pay gap is so real that in the financial
1:57:57
Speaker 1: services sector we have the biggest gender pay caps across
1:58:01
Speaker 1: all professions. So for example, if I was still working
1:58:04
Speaker 1: in corporate I would be doing the same job as
1:58:07
Speaker 1: a man, but I would earn twenty five percent less
1:58:09
Speaker 1: than what he would. Sounds very familiar over here, Okay, okay,
1:58:15
Speaker 1: just know that you're not saying anything new. In the
1:58:17
Speaker 1: United States, you know, my my executive dous is she's
1:58:20
Speaker 1: sitting over there next to me going, yes, that's that's
1:58:22
Speaker 1: very very true, very true. So we say property is
1:58:28
Speaker 1: the great equalizer to that because has no discrimination. You know,
1:58:32
Speaker 1: if we can get women investing in property, then we
1:58:35
Speaker 1: can close the gender pay gaps. Well, you know the
1:58:38
Speaker 1: thing about it is that alright, first of all, I'm
1:58:40
Speaker 1: enjoying this interview and thank you again for calling me
1:58:42
Speaker 1: from Australia early in the morning. Was comfortable in the
1:58:46
Speaker 1: afternoon over here. Just to just to let people know
1:58:49
Speaker 1: that the information you're giving to me is very relatable
1:58:51
Speaker 1: to the listeners in the United States or any other
1:58:54
Speaker 1: country because because women are regulated to a secondary citizens
1:58:59
Speaker 1: and so many different ways, and there's always been the case,
1:59:02
Speaker 1: and so to change is happening does not happening rapidly enough,
1:59:06
Speaker 1: as as in racial situations as well. But but one
1:59:09
Speaker 1: something I wanted to bring you on the phone to
1:59:11
Speaker 1: talk about what are the key factors to getting unstucked
1:59:15
Speaker 1: and in your eyes, getting unstuck and building wealth. M absolutely, so.
1:59:21
Speaker 1: I think the first thing is, I mean the work
1:59:23
Speaker 1: that we always do with women, which is a little
1:59:25
Speaker 1: bit abstract because it doesn't happen in the financial services
1:59:28
Speaker 1: UM industry here is we look at their mindset, and
1:59:32
Speaker 1: we look at their subconscious beliefs, and we look at
1:59:35
Speaker 1: their story and so we actually work with them on
1:59:38
Speaker 1: that level. What is the story that you hold about yourself,
1:59:42
Speaker 1: about your conditioning, from your past, from the family you
1:59:45
Speaker 1: came from, from the hood that you grew up in.
1:59:47
Speaker 1: What is the story that you have that tells you
1:59:50
Speaker 1: what is possible for your life and what is not possible.
1:59:53
Speaker 1: We work at that level first, So it's really about
1:59:56
Speaker 1: behavioral science and mindset. So I think that's the first
1:59:59
Speaker 1: thing to really try, and your beliefs and the story
2:00:01
Speaker 1: that you're telling yourself about what's possible. I think my
2:00:04
Speaker 1: life is an example of you know, I just grew
2:00:06
Speaker 1: up in a normal suburb and my parents unfortunately passed early,
2:00:11
Speaker 1: and I was on my own. But I'm self made
2:00:14
Speaker 1: and I'm financially independent and I'm successful. And I always
2:00:18
Speaker 1: say to women, I didn't have many of the opportunities
2:00:22
Speaker 1: UM that they did. I didn't have the opportunity to
2:00:24
Speaker 1: finish my university degree in law. UM. I didn't have
2:00:28
Speaker 1: the opportunity to have the financial support of my parents
2:00:31
Speaker 1: for those additional years so I could study UM. But
2:00:35
Speaker 1: I was able to do it and UM. So I
2:00:38
Speaker 1: think the first step number one is you have to
2:00:40
Speaker 1: look at your belief system and your subconscious beliefs, because
2:00:43
Speaker 1: that really is driving all of your behavior. You know,
2:00:46
Speaker 1: nine percent of all decisions we make and made in
2:00:49
Speaker 1: the subconscious spring without us even realizing. The second thing
2:00:53
Speaker 1: I say is you have to have basic financial literacy.
2:00:57
Speaker 1: This whole idea, and I don't know if it's a
2:01:00
Speaker 1: in they're like in America, like there is here, but
2:01:03
Speaker 1: this whole idea of going to some guru who tells you, listen,
2:01:07
Speaker 1: I'm a guru and you don't really understand anything about
2:01:09
Speaker 1: money and you should just blindly trust me and I'll
2:01:12
Speaker 1: invest your money and it will be okay. Um, what
2:01:15
Speaker 1: I say is that's actually not okay. And so the
2:01:18
Speaker 1: second thing you need is financial literacy because as human beings,
2:01:22
Speaker 1: we never do or we fear something we don't understand
2:01:27
Speaker 1: when we have more information, and when we understand something,
2:01:30
Speaker 1: then we develop confidence to do it. And the critical thing,
2:01:34
Speaker 1: like if I could give anyone listening a message, the
2:01:37
Speaker 1: message would be that there is no amount you know,
2:01:40
Speaker 1: we're all wired for hard work. I certainly was. I mean,
2:01:43
Speaker 1: I came from a family who had amazing work ethics.
2:01:46
Speaker 1: We're wired. We're wired, and we're told as children and
2:01:50
Speaker 1: our education system and throughout our lives that we need
2:01:53
Speaker 1: to be good people, and that we need to work
2:01:55
Speaker 1: really hard, and if we work really hard, then we
2:01:57
Speaker 1: can make money. UM. And what I say to people
2:02:00
Speaker 1: is that is maybe true in part that no amount
2:02:04
Speaker 1: of hard work and no amount of salary income is
2:02:08
Speaker 1: going to make you financially independent or wealthy. It's buying
2:02:12
Speaker 1: assets that go up in value over time. UM is
2:02:16
Speaker 1: the only way to build wealth. And you can read
2:02:18
Speaker 1: any book. I mean, you've got some great wealth mentors
2:02:21
Speaker 1: over there have published amazing books. The only way for
2:02:25
Speaker 1: anybody to get ahead is to buy assets that go
2:02:28
Speaker 1: up in value over the course of their working life
2:02:31
Speaker 1: UM as a means to financial independence and to building wealth.
2:02:36
Speaker 1: So I would say they're the three critical points. And
2:02:38
Speaker 1: the first point in coming unstuck is really sitting down
2:02:42
Speaker 1: and getting real about the story that you're telling yourself
2:02:44
Speaker 1: about what's possible for your life. Awesome, Mary May's thank
2:02:48
Speaker 1: you again for taking the time. UM. I have a
2:02:51
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2:02:55
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2:02:58
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