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Pam Grier, Rob Hardy, Geoff Pope & Dr. Felicia Phillips · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: moving big. Now stands for a National Association of Black
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Speaker 1: Pam Grier. Hey, extraordinary, thank you, thank you for having
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Speaker 1: me on your show. Well, you know, first of all,
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be uh, you know, first of all,
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Speaker 1: let me just talk about I gotta get this first
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Speaker 1: part of our relationship. I've been done and and and uh.
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Speaker 1: And on the Jamie Fox Show, a young man came
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Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show and he was the executive producer Jamie
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Speaker 1: Fox Show at the time. His name is Bennie rich Berg,
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Speaker 1: and he he changed my life as a writer. And uh,
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Speaker 1: and he's always said, because you know, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: Pam Grid, that's my good best friend. I go, Pam
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Speaker 1: would tell me that, And then I'm damn, you know
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Speaker 1: Bennie Richberg name because they are good friends. And so
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Speaker 1: so tell me, how did you and Bennie Richberg? This
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Speaker 1: this incredible sitcom writer, incredible man become friends. Well, getting
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Speaker 1: rich for my autobiography and just been published by Grand
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Speaker 1: Took him two years to talk about A professor, a teacher.
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Speaker 1: currently a vice president and a publicly traded risk management
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Speaker 1: firm where he specialized in managing in managing risk for
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Speaker 1: financial institutions and technology companies. Please welcome to money making Conversation.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Pope. How are you doing, sir? I'm doing. What
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Speaker 1: are you doing today? Pretty good? We're part of the
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Speaker 1: country and Mrs Pope were part of the country a
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Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia, Oh Philly, home of the last Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl champions. He's just like hanging around champions. I'm assuming
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Speaker 1: that's uh, that's your brand. Huh Yeah. I love I
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Speaker 1: love well, you know, I I love Taking a seller
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Speaker 1: from from New York through phill A down to d
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Speaker 1: C is one of my favorite rides I take. And
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Speaker 1: now something fairly a lot. And so are you based there?
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Speaker 1: For your for your entrepreneur, for your back for you
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Speaker 1: what you're doing in your business life? Where are you
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Speaker 1: based in Philly now? So? Um, Philly was the last
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Speaker 1: team I played for, the Eagles, UM, and so when
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Speaker 1: I got hurt in two thousand and ten, I just
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Speaker 1: fell in love with the East Coast. I transferred to
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Speaker 1: Howard University. I played for New York for a while,
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Speaker 1: and I would always come back to d C to
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Speaker 1: train in the off season. So, UM being from Detroit
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Speaker 1: and it being around two thousand and ten when the
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Speaker 1: craft hit, Um, you know, the economy was hit hard, obviously,
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Speaker 1: probably harder in the Midwest and a lot of other areas,
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Speaker 1: I just knew I want to come back out to
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Speaker 1: the East Coast, right. So I mentioned several things in
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Speaker 1: your in your credits. First of all, congratulations on making
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Speaker 1: the transition from what won't consider an athlete until the
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Speaker 1: entrepreneural world. Because a lot a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: see that happening. They don't understand how can that transition happen?
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Speaker 1: How were you able? Did you start uh as a
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Speaker 1: high schooler or in college? Did you have the entrepreneurial spirit? Then?
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Speaker 1: How did it? How did it develop for you? Mr Pope? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Well for me? Um you know, I grew up in
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Speaker 1: a single parent house, sold My mom and grandma raised me,
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Speaker 1: which I know it was similar to a lot of
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Speaker 1: us out there. And so, you know, growing up in Detroit,
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Speaker 1: a tough environment, tough community. You know, they did everything
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Speaker 1: they could right to kind of keep me on the
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Speaker 1: on the straight in their path. And so, um, I
21:35
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go to an all boys Jesuit
21:37
Speaker 1: high school. UM, that really kind of laid the foundation
21:40
Speaker 1: as far as like business and finance. And so when
21:43
Speaker 1: I went to Eastern Mission University in a fourth athletic scholarship,
21:46
Speaker 1: I really didn't even think about the NFL until I
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Speaker 1: was able to clock a four to forty in the
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Speaker 1: forty are dash. Um, and so from their NFL became
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Speaker 1: a reality. But I always knew, you know, four too far.
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Speaker 1: You just threw that out there like everybody just sprinting
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Speaker 1: just out there until I was able that you you
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Speaker 1: were fast. Now you just suddenly came up and clocked
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Speaker 1: for too far. Then why did that happen? And so
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Speaker 1: so I never ran track in high school, and uh, um,
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Speaker 1: you know I ended up somehow, I ended up talking
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Speaker 1: too much smack and ended up challenging another football player
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Speaker 1: who was a senior who happened to be the track star. Right,
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Speaker 1: he had all the records, right, And I mean I
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Speaker 1: beat him pretty pretty well in a foot race. This
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Speaker 1: was probably my sophomore. Here is my sophomore in high school.
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Speaker 1: And so then it was like, well, look, if he
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Speaker 1: got all the records and he just lost to you,
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Speaker 1: you should probably run track. So so I ran track
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Speaker 1: my last years in college, and I was able to
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Speaker 1: run some some pretty fast times. We still got a
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Speaker 1: lot of state and meet records actually dating back to
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Speaker 1: two thousand two. But from there, um, that's when I
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Speaker 1: knew I was fast. Didn't hit me that I had
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Speaker 1: a leape speed until I was able to beat him
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Speaker 1: and this kid, you know, he had literally every record
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Speaker 1: in the city in the high school, right, So that
23:09
Speaker 1: was pretty much the blueprint. Yeah. So so basically you're
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Speaker 1: a natural athlete. Can we say that it's probably my
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Speaker 1: Jamaican blood, But yeah, I've always get well, all the
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Speaker 1: sprinters come from Jamaica. Now all the sprinters come from Jamaica.
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Speaker 1: So so you know, I know thised near Bio said,
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Speaker 1: you overcame a lot of diversity, you know, growing up
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Speaker 1: and to be where you were at today, and we're
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Speaker 1: detail about what you're doing today. When you say adversity,
23:36
Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? Absolutely? So, I mean, you know, one,
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Speaker 1: I think you know, not enough people give young people
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Speaker 1: of color coming from tough environments enough credit right for
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Speaker 1: making it. But too you know, when I got to
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Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan, you know, I was playing a lot and
23:53
Speaker 1: I had a devastating injury. I tored my quadra step
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Speaker 1: off the bone. Um, which is you know the quad
23:59
Speaker 1: there's four obviously there's four parts of that month, and
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Speaker 1: and so, um, they was they was prepared. When I
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Speaker 1: staff at Eastern Michigan was pretty much prepared to hang
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Speaker 1: it up for me. You know what I mean? UM say, look, well,
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Speaker 1: on your scholarship, you'll never had a speed that you
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Speaker 1: once had. You probably won't even be able to play
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Speaker 1: competitive at this Division one level. We're ready to hang
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Speaker 1: it up for you, and and I wasn't ready to
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Speaker 1: a doctor that would approve my rehab um. And once
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Speaker 1: I came back, the biggest test for me was to
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Speaker 1: be able to come back from that injury and still
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Speaker 1: running four to forty right, And I was able. I
24:45
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Speaker 1: for ten months, six hours a day, six days a week, right, um.
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Speaker 1: And so I came back from that injury, um and
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24:59
Speaker 1: playing as you can imagine, the relationship was just I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was just torn between me and them. And so
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Speaker 1: my high school coach said, look, I know a coach
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Speaker 1: of Keith Gilmore, I forever be thankful, drove all the
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Speaker 1: and I transferred the Howard Um. You know it was
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Speaker 1: ever going to overcome that injury. And even though I
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Speaker 1: didn't get drafted one, I'm a Howard Bison, So you
25:39
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25:43
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Speaker 1: I appreciate first of all, thank you for coming on
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Speaker 1: And now I don't know if everybody knows. But but
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Speaker 1: So that's that's really important because that's why I was
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34:39
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Speaker 1: Mr Hardy Okay, Okay, man, I'm just hey, I'm just man.
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35:29
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35:34
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35:39
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Speaker 1: which is totally different from Power, tell us how you
35:54
Speaker 1: how do you? How do you do that? How you
35:57
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Speaker 1: next to me as a master business strategist, serial entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: Dr Felicia Phillips, Thank you so much. Excited to be
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43:04
Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Let's talk about this event that's
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43:09
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Speaker 1: about you and just talk about being an entrepreneur, being
43:14
Speaker 1: a female, being a female in the house. You know,
43:16
Speaker 1: it's really interesting being a female and today. You know,
43:19
Speaker 1: when if you just flashed back twenty years ago, you know,
43:22
Speaker 1: trying to do what you're trying to do today, you
43:25
Speaker 1: had to ask for permission in a way. I'm gonna
43:27
Speaker 1: say that, let's just say, because the social media wasn't there,
43:30
Speaker 1: so well, let's permission you had. Maybe a radio station
43:32
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43:36
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43:41
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. This
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Speaker 1: is my eight year So when you talk about no internet,
43:48
Speaker 1: no social media, that was me when I started my
43:50
Speaker 1: first business, and so a lot of that was knocking
43:54
Speaker 1: on doors, making phone calls, showing up prepared right, doing,
43:59
Speaker 1: like say, what most people won't do in order to
44:02
Speaker 1: be successful. What happened once social media was introduced. I'll
44:08
Speaker 1: tell you how I really feel about that. I think
44:10
Speaker 1: it's great. But I think what people forget about having
44:13
Speaker 1: a website and having social media is that you have
44:17
Speaker 1: the opportunity to promote yourself around the world, because they
44:22
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44:26
Speaker 1: to their area w w W worldwide, you said it,
44:29
Speaker 1: and people forget that so much. There is so much
44:33
Speaker 1: opportunity right at our fingertips that we don't take advantage of.
44:37
Speaker 1: And that's because we've gotten a little relaxed. Right. Um,
44:42
Speaker 1: technology is somewhat dumbed us down, right, Okay, I remember
44:47
Speaker 1: when I first started my businesses, all my numbers were
44:49
Speaker 1: right here and right. I didn't have to look at
44:52
Speaker 1: my phone. And that's the point. We don't try to
44:57
Speaker 1: do things because we depend on techn knowledge so much. Now,
45:01
Speaker 1: how that relates the entrepreneurship is we try to google everything.
45:06
Speaker 1: We try to look at okay, um, I'm gonna look
45:09
Speaker 1: at what this person is doing online, and then we
45:11
Speaker 1: try to apply that to our own business. That can
45:14
Speaker 1: be reckless sometimes because the vision that you have for
45:17
Speaker 1: your business is for you, the vision that that person
45:21
Speaker 1: online has is for them. And what happens is sometimes
45:25
Speaker 1: you lose the clarity in your vision and purpose because
45:30
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45:35
Speaker 1: we have to realize is that we need to hire people,
45:38
Speaker 1: We need to go to events like a mobil kN
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Speaker 1: that help us to concentrate on what we're doing and
45:45
Speaker 1: what we're assigned to do specifically in our businesses, to
45:48
Speaker 1: get those tools, those relationships and resources. And that's important.
45:51
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because of the fact
45:54
Speaker 1: that when I look at you first of all, focused
45:59
Speaker 1: was almost three kg here just not I didn't just
46:02
Speaker 1: think of this last night, absolutely okay, because it's not
46:05
Speaker 1: it's not just a passion for you, this is a mission.
46:09
Speaker 1: It is passion doesn't pay the bill. The fashion doesn't
46:11
Speaker 1: pay the bills, and norther passion convince people to consistently
46:15
Speaker 1: pay the bills. People jump overboard and um and they
46:18
Speaker 1: want to be a part of But who you trying
46:21
Speaker 1: to read through? Those those those those bandwagon people. And
46:24
Speaker 1: then you have a core people that consistently understand this
46:27
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing and this is how I want
46:28
Speaker 1: to work absolutely, So tell us about Mogol Khan. So
46:32
Speaker 1: Mobile Khan. I've been doing conferences for the last ten
46:35
Speaker 1: years to women, but in Atlanta, and I wanted to
46:39
Speaker 1: do something specifically in the fourth quarter because people get
46:43
Speaker 1: excited when it comes to the holidays, they lose focus
46:47
Speaker 1: a little bit. The next thing they know, it's the
46:49
Speaker 1: first of the year. It's January, right, and they're scrambling,
46:52
Speaker 1: and by the time they get a real plan in place,
46:55
Speaker 1: it's March. We've already lost three months in the year.
46:59
Speaker 1: What Mogol Khan designed to do is to give you
47:02
Speaker 1: that plan now so that you can get your campaigns together,
47:06
Speaker 1: you can get your marketing together, and really understand who
47:09
Speaker 1: your target audience is, because we talk about that a lot.
47:12
Speaker 1: But what happens is when you first start your business
47:15
Speaker 1: and then where you may be three to five years later,
47:17
Speaker 1: maybe a totally different audience, and never stopped right there.
47:21
Speaker 1: And what disappoints me is that people I don't want
47:24
Speaker 1: to change because sometimes when your audience changed, there's traditional
47:27
Speaker 1: work and some people don't see that one part of
47:30
Speaker 1: the plan that's right, and so that's key. One of
47:33
Speaker 1: the things that people have always I want to say
47:35
Speaker 1: admired about me is that I'm willing to change gears.
47:39
Speaker 1: And you know how to reinvent yourself? You don't, You
47:42
Speaker 1: don't important, I don't. I don't. You show me a
47:46
Speaker 1: direction where money can be made. I'm reinventing myself in
47:49
Speaker 1: that direction. And I think that and I and I'm fearless.
47:52
Speaker 1: And so let's talk about fearlessness and fear because you're fearless,
47:58
Speaker 1: but fear stops so many people. Great point, So let's
48:02
Speaker 1: talk about it because especially I see this with women.
48:06
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you the difference in what I see
48:07
Speaker 1: with a man and what I see what the want.
48:10
Speaker 1: If there's a job and a man looks at all
48:13
Speaker 1: of the qualification, if he has thirty percent of those
48:16
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48:19
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. But what a woman will do
48:22
Speaker 1: is she'll look at it and she'll say, well, I
48:24
Speaker 1: only have and she'll walk away, and that job may
48:29
Speaker 1: have been perfect for her had she had the confidence
48:32
Speaker 1: to go after. What I tell people is we always
48:36
Speaker 1: hear that fear is false ever disappearing real, right, But
48:40
Speaker 1: fear is also fuel because the fear is what wakes
48:44
Speaker 1: me up every day to do what I do. Fear
48:47
Speaker 1: makes me fearless because I know if I don't get up,
48:51
Speaker 1: if I don't show up every day consistently, I'm not
48:54
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. I'm not gonna be able to get
48:58
Speaker 1: that revenue, get that profit, increa some clients. I'm not
49:01
Speaker 1: gonna be able to attract what I need to attract
49:04
Speaker 1: for myself, my life and my business if I don't
49:06
Speaker 1: show up. And so what fear does for me is
49:09
Speaker 1: I turned it into fuel and it makes me go
49:12
Speaker 1: after those goals. And I think that's what we have
49:15
Speaker 1: to look at. It's okay a little fear. You may
49:17
Speaker 1: have a talk and you gotta get on stage and
49:19
Speaker 1: feel a little fear. You may have a business, mean
49:21
Speaker 1: you feel a little fear, use that for fuel to
49:24
Speaker 1: really get you in there to get because your passion
49:26
Speaker 1: can convince people, but your work is what keeps them right.
49:29
Speaker 1: You know, it's really funny that you say that about
49:32
Speaker 1: different There's a difference between men and women when it
49:34
Speaker 1: comes to you know, as a as a guy that
49:38
Speaker 1: has been I feel my ability to um, I want
49:42
Speaker 1: to say b S, but I would say my ability
49:44
Speaker 1: to be able to talk my way into an opportunity,
49:47
Speaker 1: even though I know I do. The resume doesn't match.
49:50
Speaker 1: I don't care. And my wife's Chaire was gets mad
49:53
Speaker 1: at me because in a good way, because she knows
49:56
Speaker 1: I don't know I do it. Why Why why are
50:01
Speaker 1: we waiting around here? Let's go, Let's go what you
50:03
Speaker 1: have done to Hey, Hey, let's go. Let's go and
50:05
Speaker 1: I let's go mentality, And I've tried to instill that
50:08
Speaker 1: my daughter. You know that you know understand that there
50:11
Speaker 1: are no barriers. They could be self imposed barriers, but
50:15
Speaker 1: there are no barriers. There should be racial barriers, there
50:18
Speaker 1: should be no financial barriers, that be no gender barriers.
50:21
Speaker 1: And we put these barriers in front of us because
50:24
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50:26
Speaker 1: a limited It's somehow in our minds we feel because
50:30
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50:32
Speaker 1: successful people, you'll see their kids show up, Okay, their
50:36
Speaker 1: kids to be on set or athletes. They'll bring their
50:38
Speaker 1: kids to the baseball park, and it guess what they're
50:41
Speaker 1: comfortable with being around these environments because guess what they've
50:44
Speaker 1: been told is all right? When in minority communities, we've
50:48
Speaker 1: never been told anything. We've been told what we cannot do,
50:51
Speaker 1: what we should not go, what we cannot say, and
50:54
Speaker 1: who we should represent, who represents our our beliefs should
50:58
Speaker 1: be successful. We just athletes and entertainers. Okay, scholars, you
51:04
Speaker 1: can't even phantom that. Well, that means, that means four
51:07
Speaker 1: years of education, could be a doctor. That's eight years lawyers,
51:10
Speaker 1: eight years athlete. Okay, I can just graduated high school.
51:12
Speaker 1: I can slam dunk. Oh my goodness, you said so much,
51:15
Speaker 1: so much right there. So imagine when you talk about
51:19
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51:25
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51:28
Speaker 1: whammy going on. And then you couple that with feet. Right,
51:32
Speaker 1: So if every day somebody is telling you what you
51:34
Speaker 1: can't be, and I can remember growing up and I'll
51:37
Speaker 1: tell you I'm a dad is girl. So my dad
51:39
Speaker 1: was an entrepreneur and he would say, listen, if you
51:44
Speaker 1: show up and if you do what you're supposed to
51:47
Speaker 1: do every day, which is keep your word. Keep your word.
51:52
Speaker 1: That's what's missing. You gotta keep your word. You gotta
51:55
Speaker 1: do it with integrity. Race, yes, can play a small
51:59
Speaker 1: fact there, but people don't do business with you because
52:04
Speaker 1: of race. They do it because of the quality of
52:07
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52:10
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52:14
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52:17
Speaker 1: they will. But you know the thing about it is
52:21
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52:24
Speaker 1: know that I know them African American male. I know
52:27
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52:30
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52:33
Speaker 1: allowed it to stop me. I never I I would
52:37
Speaker 1: never give it power. I would never give it power
52:41
Speaker 1: to say that I'm not going to be who I
52:43
Speaker 1: can be because I'm an African American. You know, I'm
52:47
Speaker 1: I came from in the city. Uh. I never wanted
52:50
Speaker 1: to empower that and give it the tool to win
52:54
Speaker 1: over me. And so so when you go to an
52:56
Speaker 1: event like Mogo Calm, I know we we've got another
52:59
Speaker 1: break and I don't want to push you to that break.
53:01
Speaker 1: But just just just what, just what just the experience
53:04
Speaker 1: and why did you start it? So the experience is this.
53:08
Speaker 1: We talked about this being a time for women, and
53:12
Speaker 1: right now it is, and especially women of color, because
53:14
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53:19
Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, in creating businesses. Here's the thing you talked
53:23
Speaker 1: about the disparity in our community, which means we haven't
53:27
Speaker 1: been exposed to having a business coach. We haven't been
53:30
Speaker 1: exposed to having platforms like this right. So what Mobile
53:34
Speaker 1: Khan does over the three days is help you to
53:37
Speaker 1: understand what you don't know. Thank you for coming in,
53:40
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I don't know. She's so
53:42
Speaker 1: loud because I can't do anything for you know. I'm
53:45
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53:46
Speaker 1: hang up to focus see if she happen. She she
53:48
Speaker 1: always had planned in her life anyway. But you should
53:51
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53:55
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53:59
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54:02
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54:08
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54:10
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54:13
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54:15
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54:19
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54:21
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