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BLM Embraces Hamas-and Every Company that Gave them $$ Has to Defend their Blatant Antisemitism. Plus Media Bias on Israel & Unconstitutional Trump Gag Order · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Center. It's nice to be with you here in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on as speakers race. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: save that for another episode because who knows what's gonna
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Speaker 1: happen there. But there's serious news that is breaking, and
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Speaker 1: the media's reaction to this rocket that hit a hospital
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Speaker 1: a lot of casualties in Gaza was immediately to start
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Speaker 1: going after Israel. CNN was almost excited to report it,
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Speaker 1: saying this could have the whole world change their mindset
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Speaker 1: on Israel, when we didn't have any of the facts yet.
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Speaker 1: That is disturbing.
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Speaker 2: Well, look at it. It is a powerful illustration of
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Speaker 2: what we said in Monday's podcast. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: if you didn't listen to Monday's podcast, you ought to
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Speaker 2: go back and listen to it. It was entitled CNN
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Speaker 2: is Hamasa's air Force, So is MSNBC, so is ABC.
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Speaker 2: Here's the evidence, and we walk through how a critical
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Speaker 2: part of Hamasa's battle plan is to count on the
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Speaker 2: corporate media, the dishonest line puppets of the media, to
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Speaker 2: repeat their propaganda and in particular, to attack Israel, to
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Speaker 2: demonize Israel. And what happened here today. You and I
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Speaker 2: are sitting here, it's about eleven pm on Tuesday night.
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Speaker 2: We're recording this today. A hospital was struck in Gaza,
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Speaker 2: and you know, it is striking the media left. It's saying, aha,
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Speaker 2: the Israelis did at c see. We knew there'd be
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Speaker 2: Palestinian civilian casualties, and there are going to be Palestinian
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Speaker 2: civilian casualties, but they were gleeful to blame it on Israel.
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Speaker 2: Now as we sit here tonight at eleven pm, the
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Speaker 2: facts are still murky. It's still coming out. But Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister Netanyahoo Is emphatically demanded denied that it was an
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Speaker 2: Israeli rocket. The IDF has put out video proof that
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Speaker 2: it appears to have been a Palestinian terrorist rocket that
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Speaker 2: went awry and hit the hospital. And one of the
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Speaker 2: things to understand, the Israeli missiles are incredibly targeted. They
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Speaker 2: know exactly what they're doing. They hit military targets because
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Speaker 2: their precision the Palestine and is just file fire rockets
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Speaker 2: willy nilly. They don't have guidance systems, they're not advanced,
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Speaker 2: they're really crude, and a very significant percentage of the
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Speaker 2: rockets just go off course. They hit civilian areas.
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Speaker 1: There's reports that thirty to forty percent of the rockets
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Speaker 1: when they shoot a lot at the same time, don't
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Speaker 1: even make it out of Gaza in that area. They
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Speaker 1: just misfire or they come down early and they kill
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Speaker 1: other innocent people Palestinians well.
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Speaker 2: And the thing to understand, look, the Poalestinians Hamas is
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Speaker 2: making these rockets. Many of these rockets are mained out
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Speaker 2: of things like water pipes because international agencies give millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars to put in water pipes to get clean
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Speaker 2: water to Gaza and the terraces, and Hamas cut up
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Speaker 2: the water pipes and turn them into rockets. And so
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Speaker 2: these are just these are rockets that have some propulsion
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Speaker 2: and some ball bearings or other other shrapnel that explode
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Speaker 2: that is designed to kill personnel. But they don't have
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Speaker 2: precision guidance systems. So right now, as we sit here
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Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock tonight, it appears that it is likely
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Speaker 2: the rocket that hit the hospital was actually fired by
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Speaker 2: a Palestinian terrorist organization. We don't know that for sure,
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Speaker 2: but let me give you a for example, the evolution
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Speaker 2: of the New York Times headlines today. So the first
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Speaker 2: headline says israeleigh strike kills hundreds in hospital. Palestinians say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I noticed how much they worried there. Palestinians say, notice
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Speaker 2: how much work that is that that phrase. Palestinians say, now,
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Speaker 2: they had to revise that, and so afterwards they changed
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Speaker 2: it to at least six hundred dead in strike on
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Speaker 2: Gaza hospital. Palestinian say, boy, they stick everything. You're going
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Speaker 2: to see a lot of New York Times headlines. That
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Speaker 2: ends with Palestinians say, because whatever their propaganda is, the
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Speaker 2: New York Times is going to emblaze it across the headline.
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Speaker 2: Here's the third headline today, at least five hundred dead
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Speaker 2: in blast at Gaza hospital.
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Speaker 1: That changed a lot from the first headline.
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Speaker 2: Palestinians say, they still include those words on every headline. Now.
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Speaker 2: The point is there's a blast. But notice, and this
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Speaker 2: goes back to we've talked before on this podcast about
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Speaker 2: the active voice and the passive voice. The active voice
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Speaker 2: is Ben hit the ball. Yeah in tennis, that's a
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Speaker 2: frequent accurate statement. You're a very good tennis player, So
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Speaker 2: Ben hit the ball. The active voice has an actor
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Speaker 2: that is engaging in the verb. The passive voice is
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Speaker 2: the ball was hit. Now, the ball was hit. The
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Speaker 2: reason people use the passive voice in politics and in
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Speaker 2: journalism is for one reason, and it's consistent, which is
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Speaker 2: they use the passive voice to hide the actor, to
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Speaker 2: obscure who did the thing. So if you say the
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Speaker 2: ball was hit, you're trying to hide that it was
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Speaker 2: Ben that hit the ball. In this case, they started
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Speaker 2: out with Israeli strike kills. What is it that killed?
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Speaker 2: It was the Israeli strike. It was those bad, bad
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Speaker 2: Jewish people in Israel. That's what the New York Times and.
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Speaker 1: Implying it was purposeful that they said we want to
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Speaker 1: blow up a hospital to day.
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Speaker 2: You know, because the Israelis are sitting there saying, what
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Speaker 2: do you want to do today? Let's blow up a
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Speaker 2: hospital because that seems like a great idea. But you
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Speaker 2: know what, for the media, these headlines are pre written.
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Speaker 2: They're ready to there will be civilians killed. Why because
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Speaker 2: the Hamas puts their military targets surrounded by civilians. But
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Speaker 2: then suddenly the facts got ahead of them and they
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Speaker 2: changed it to strike on Gaza Hospital. And notice what's
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Speaker 2: missing the actor, and then finally blast at Gaza Hospital.
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Speaker 2: Then it's not even a strike, it's just boom.
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Speaker 1: It just happened.
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Speaker 2: Hospital blew up. And by the way, you know, the
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Speaker 2: New York Times and CNN and the corporate media was
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Speaker 2: not alone. And we'll cover this more on Friday's pod.
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Speaker 2: They were not alone and immediate wanting to blame Israel.
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Speaker 2: You know who else did?
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Speaker 1: Some of your colleagues in Congress.
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Speaker 2: Rashida Talib, I want you to take a look right
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Speaker 2: now at the tweet she put out. I'm gonna read it.
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Speaker 2: Israel just bombed the Baptist hospital, killing five hundred Palestinians, doctors, children, patients,
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Speaker 2: just like that, potus. This is what happens when you
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Speaker 2: refuse to facilitate a cease fire and help de escalate
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Speaker 2: your war and destruction only approach. Your wrote war and
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Speaker 2: destruction only approach has opened my eyes and many Palestinian
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Speaker 2: Americans and Muslim Americans like me. We will remember where
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Speaker 2: you stood. So understand what she's saying. Immediately when she
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Speaker 2: sees the headline, she's like, this is Israel and what
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Speaker 2: does she want? Cease fire? Yeah, I told you before.
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Speaker 2: And look, we've talked about on this podcast how the
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Speaker 2: Biden administration has said, ceasefire, sees fire, sees fire. That's
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Speaker 2: going to be their talking points. Why because after Hamas
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Speaker 2: has murdered now over fourteen hundred Israelis, roughly three hundred
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Speaker 2: IDF soldiers and about eleven hundred civilians, thirty Americans, the
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Speaker 2: position of the radical left is to cease fire Israel,
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Speaker 2: do nothing. We're done now. Yeah, they murdered their people.
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Speaker 2: They're murdered more, but right now, do not respond, do
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Speaker 2: not attack Amas, do not eliminate Hamas. Cease fire. That
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Speaker 2: is what the Democrats say, that is what the media say.
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Speaker 2: That is why this is Hamas's air force.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting and I got to say to
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Speaker 1: our audience, they did an amazing job spreading what we
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Speaker 1: were talking about with the media and how they're covering
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Speaker 1: this conflict, this war and our last podcast. It clearly
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Speaker 1: went viral because the people that listen shared it on
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Speaker 1: social media. If they missed it, go back for this.
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Speaker 2: Monday's podcast is the biggest podcast we have had in
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Speaker 2: months because people were interested and we cited chapter and verse.
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Speaker 2: We just played the media coverage and showed how they
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Speaker 2: are playing the role. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBCCBS, They're all
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Speaker 2: playing the role of being hamon us as propagandists. And
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Speaker 2: it's not just peripheral. It is an integral part of
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Speaker 2: the strategy from Hamas to try to defeat israel Is.
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Speaker 2: The media is part of their strategy, and boy, there
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Speaker 1: this country where our colleges are on the side of
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Speaker 1: terrass To be clear, the majority of colleges that I've
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Speaker 1: seen all over the country, the students are in favor
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Speaker 1: of the Palestinians Hamas the terrorists. They're against Israel. And
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Speaker 1: you don't have to look that deep to understand this
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Speaker 1: is money flowing in from democrats. This is money flowing
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Speaker 1: in from George Soros. This is also very clear connections
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Speaker 1: between Black Lives Matter and HAMAS, and no one is
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen, our elite universities are venomous pits of anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism and hatred for Israel, and we're seeing that arise
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Speaker 2: all across the country. It is vicious, it is nasty.
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Speaker 2: But our elite universities are also places that have embraced
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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter. And this is an important piece of
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Speaker 2: news that you will not see on the corporate media.
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Speaker 2: They will not cover this. But I want our listeners
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Speaker 2: to understand this. Black Lives Matter supports Hamas. Black Lives
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Speaker 2: Matter is HAMAS, and I want you to understand this.
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Speaker 2: And we're gonna lay out the facts and details on
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Speaker 2: this carefully. But every university president, every college professor, every
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Speaker 2: fortune five hundred corporation that wrote a check to Black
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Speaker 2: Lives Matter, all of them who embraced these radical Marxist revolutionaries,
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Speaker 2: they need to be asked, every one of them, do
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Speaker 2: you support this anti Semitic, anti Israel hatred? Because you've
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Speaker 2: funded it, you've embraced it, you've endorsed it. So let's start.
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Speaker 2: Black lives matter to the organization, and it's important to
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Speaker 2: draw distinction. And what we did several years ago on Verdict,
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Speaker 2: we did a long podcast while looking through the Marxist
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Speaker 2: roots of Black Lives Matter. Understand there's a difference between
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Speaker 2: the phrase black lives matter. The phrase black lives matter
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Speaker 2: is unequivocally true. It is a truism. Every reasonable and
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Speaker 2: rational person agrees with that. Sure, Now it is also
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Speaker 2: true White lives matter, Hispanic lives matter, Agian American lives matter.
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Speaker 1: All lives matter.
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Speaker 2: But yes, yes, unequivocally yes, do black lives matter? Absolutely? Now,
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Speaker 2: mind you, Black Lives matter the movement, and there is
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Speaker 2: an organization Black Lives Matter, Inc. Yeah, that is incorporated.
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Speaker 2: It is a business. It is a business where they've
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Speaker 2: made millions.
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Speaker 1: Their grifters.
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Speaker 2: They are grifters, but they're not just grifters. They are
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Speaker 2: Marxist grifters, and they are explicitly Marxist. They are trained
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Speaker 2: Marxist organizers. And they've referred to Israel as an apartheid state.
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Speaker 2: They've said that the US, because of its alliance with
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Speaker 2: Israel is quote complicit in the genocide taking place against
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Speaker 2: the Palestinian people. I want you to watch now Palestine
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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter co founder patrese culors, she's at my
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Speaker 2: alma mater in twenty fifteen doing a panel at the
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Speaker 2: Harvard Law School. Here she is calling for the end
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Speaker 2: of Israel.
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Speaker 4: Listen actions always. The other thing I'll say is Palestine
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Speaker 4: is our generation in South Africa. And if if we
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Speaker 4: don't step up boldly and courageously to end the imperialist
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Speaker 4: project that's called Israel, we're doomed.
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Speaker 2: I want you to hear those words. End the imperialist
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Speaker 2: project that is called Israel. That's Black Lives Matter, That's
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Speaker 2: what Black Lives Matter calls for. And mind you not
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Speaker 2: help the Palestinian people not have a two states solution.
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Speaker 1: End Israel, push them into the sea.
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Speaker 2: She wants to eliminate. We talked about in the last
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Speaker 2: episode the radical left wing mantra from the river to
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Speaker 2: the sea. What that means is literally wipe out Israel.
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Speaker 2: There are twenty two Arab countries on Earth, there are
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Speaker 2: fifty Muslim countries on Earth. There is one one one
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Speaker 2: Jewish state on planet Earth. And these radicals. They believe
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Speaker 2: that number should be zero. They don't want there to
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Speaker 2: be a Jewish state. And here's what she's calling for,
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Speaker 2: end Israel. That is the view of the radical left now.
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Speaker 2: I want to also point out that she said in
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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen she admitted she and her fellow organizers are
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Speaker 2: quote trained Marxist.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Here, have a look.
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Speaker 5: I think that the criticism is helpful. I also think
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Speaker 5: that it might I think of a lot of things.
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Speaker 5: The first thing I think is that we actually do
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Speaker 5: have an ideological frame, myself and Alicia in particular, trained organizers.
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Speaker 5: We are trained Marxists.
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Speaker 2: We are.
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Speaker 5: Super versed on sort of ideological theories.
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Speaker 2: Look, that's who they are. They are communists, they are Marxists.
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Speaker 2: By the way, Patrise Kuller started as a trained organizer
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Speaker 2: with something called the Labor Community Strategy Center. She called
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Speaker 2: it her first political home. The center's director, Eric Mann,
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Speaker 2: was her political mentor. She told Politic that there was
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Speaker 2: that it was there. She was trained for a youth
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Speaker 2: and she grew as a leader. The Labor Community Strategy
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Speaker 2: Centator just describes its philosophy as quote an urban experiment
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Speaker 2: using grassroots organizing to quote focus on Black and Latino
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Speaker 2: communities with deep historical ties to the long history of
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Speaker 2: anti colonial, anti imperialist, pro communist resistance to the US Empire.
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Speaker 2: So understand if you support Black Lives Matter, the organization
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Speaker 2: you support, in their own words, pro communist resistance to
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Speaker 2: the US Empire. Now, the Senator teaches and studies the
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Speaker 2: history of quote indigenous rebellions against the initial European genocidal
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Speaker 2: invasions and quote the Great Slave Haitian Revolution of the
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Speaker 2: seventeen nineties, and quote the great slave rebellions that won
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Speaker 2: the US Civil War for the racist North. The Center
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Speaker 2: also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US
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Speaker 2: Communist Party, especially quote especially black communists, as well as
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Speaker 2: a support for the great work of the Black Panther Party,
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Speaker 2: the American Indian Movement, the Young Lords, the Brown Berets,
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Speaker 2: and the Great Revolutionary Rainbow Experiments of the nineteen seventies.
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Speaker 2: Speaking with the asl US at Liberty Weekly podcast, Cullers
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Speaker 2: described the Center as her quote foundation, claiming that it
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Speaker 2: was there that she developed the skills that helped her
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Speaker 2: found the Black Lives Matter movement after having been recruited
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Speaker 2: by its director, Eric mann Man, who is an avowed
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Speaker 2: communist revolutionary, that's what he described himself as. Was the
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Speaker 2: New England coordinator for Students Students for a Democratic Society
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight the Radical Marxist Organization. The following year,
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Speaker 2: an even more radical wing splittered from the SDS, led
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Speaker 2: by Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dorn, calling for violent direct
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Speaker 2: action over civil disobedience, and that splinter group became known
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Speaker 2: as the Weather Underground, with the stated goal of over
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Speaker 2: throwing the US government. As a result, the FBI classified
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Speaker 2: correctly the organization as a domestic terrorist group in nineteen
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Speaker 2: sixty nine. That's where Black Lives Matter came from, explicit
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Speaker 2: Marxists waging violent war on what they describe as the
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Speaker 2: US Empire. They described themselves as a pro communist resistance
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Speaker 2: to the US Empire.
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Speaker 1: You would think that these CEOs that were writing these
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Speaker 1: massive checks to Black Lives Matter, and all of these
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Speaker 1: sports teams are giving them literally billions in free media
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Speaker 1: with Black Lives Matter on the helmets, the end zones
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Speaker 1: at the end of the basketball courts that even the
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Speaker 1: US opened the corners, they had them up Black Lives Matter.
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Speaker 1: You would think they would have done a little bit
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Speaker 1: of research and been like do we really want to
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Speaker 1: give this? But that was that part of a Hey,
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Speaker 1: you can't say no, you can't ask questions. You have
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Speaker 1: to go with these radicals because if you don't, they
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Speaker 1: will come to ruin and destroy your industry.
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Speaker 2: Look, the NBA mandated that every NBA court had to
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Speaker 2: have the words black Lives Matter emblazoned on the court.
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Speaker 2: Now does the NBA support what Patrice Kulor says, she
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Speaker 2: supports the founder of Black Lives Matter, Inc? The end
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Speaker 2: of Israel? Do they support Hamas? Do they support and
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Speaker 2: by the way, following following these attacks, So let's go
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Speaker 2: back two weeks ago. You have the terror attacks in Israel.
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Speaker 2: You have the greatest single day massacre of Jews since
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Speaker 2: the Holocaust. You have death squads going house to house
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Speaker 2: murdering civilians, targeting civilians, targeting elderly people, targeting women, targeting children,
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Speaker 2: raping women and raping little girls, dragging them into the
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Speaker 2: public street, beheading infants. What was Black Lives Matter reaction? Well,
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Speaker 2: here's one tweet they sent out. Take a look that
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Speaker 2: is all that is it? A picture of a hand
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Speaker 2: glider with a Palestinian flag saying I stand with Palestine.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, that image are the terrorists that
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Speaker 2: came in to the concert, to the ravee and murdered
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Speaker 2: hundreds of young people at an outdoor concert. They're at
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Speaker 2: a concert, and they stood there and they just gunned
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Speaker 2: them down.
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Speaker 1: And this is the equivalent of putting on a picture
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Speaker 1: of the nine to eleven hijackers.
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Speaker 2: This is I support murderers who target teenagers, not military targets,
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Speaker 2: not people engaged in war. Not I support a peaceful
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Speaker 2: dialogue of a different diplomatic situation with the Palestines. None
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Speaker 2: of that. I support the terrorists who were murdering people.
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Speaker 2: That was Black Lives Matter, and and let me give
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Speaker 2: you for example, a quote from the Washington Free Beacon.
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Speaker 2: Lives Matter chapters across the United States had hardly contained
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Speaker 2: their glee following the terrorist attacks against the Jewish nation.
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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter Chicago on Tuesday posted an image exalting
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Speaker 2: at paragliding Palestinian terrorist, a clear reference to the Hamas
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Speaker 2: gunmen who flew into a music festival Saturday morning and
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Speaker 2: massacred at least two hundred and sixty Israelis. On Instagram,
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Speaker 2: the Chicago chapter posted graphics claiming it is racist and
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Speaker 2: islamophobic quote to criticize Hamasa's brutality. So if you don't
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Speaker 2: like raping children, you're racist and homophobe, Islamophobic, and said
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Speaker 2: the terrorist group had quote the legal right to resist
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Speaker 2: Israel by slaughtering innocent civilians. Black Lives Matter Grassroots, which
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Speaker 2: represents twenty six of the movement's chapters, on Monday, justified
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Speaker 2: Hamas's terror as quote a desperate act of self defense
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Speaker 2: and in fact, so this is more from the Washington
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Speaker 2: Examiner quote, as black people continue to fight to end
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Speaker 2: militarism and mass incarceration in our own communities, let us
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Speaker 2: understand the resistance in Palestine as an attempt to tear
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Speaker 2: down the gates of the world's largest open air prison.
22:14
Speaker 2: That was BLM Grassroots, which represents dozens of BLM chapters.
22:19
Speaker 2: BLM Indianapolis on X on Twitter reposted an image that
22:25
Speaker 2: read I Stand with Palestine from the US Palestinian Community Network.
22:30
Speaker 2: The chapter also reposted a separate image from a racial
22:32
Speaker 2: justice group reading quote, Palestinians have lived under the violence
22:36
Speaker 2: of Israeli colonialism for seventy five years. To end all violence,
22:41
Speaker 2: the initial and ongoing violence of the oppressor and the
22:44
Speaker 2: reactive resistance of the oppressed. We must act to end
22:48
Speaker 2: the oppression. BLM Detroit, another group posted on Instagram the
22:52
Speaker 2: image that BLM Grassroots released, while BLM Philadelphia, yet another group,
22:57
Speaker 2: has since appeared to delete. A repost on its Instagram
23:01
Speaker 2: story a pro Palestinian protesters of the US, with one
23:04
Speaker 2: exclaiming quote, all of us are here standing today, are proud,
23:10
Speaker 2: proud of what occurred yesterday. Proud proud of it. Now.
23:14
Speaker 1: Now hold on, let's also be queer about saying that
23:16
Speaker 1: I think you didned to understand. You can be off
23:18
Speaker 1: off groups or one offs right with it, one of
23:21
Speaker 1: the large organization nationwide, and you could say, okay, as
23:24
Speaker 1: a national group we condemned.
23:27
Speaker 2: With Indianapolis, Detroit, Philadelphia.
23:29
Speaker 1: They didn't come out. In fact, they said.
23:31
Speaker 2: They're allowed to do this, and no one disagreed.
23:33
Speaker 1: Right. No one's saying that they shouldn't have said it.
23:35
Speaker 1: No one's saying they went off the off the deep Ed.
23:37
Speaker 2: Well, the founder of Black Lives Matter, called for the
23:39
Speaker 2: end of Israel. Of course they're celebrating this. They're trained Marxists,
23:43
Speaker 2: they're anti Semites, they hate Israel, and they are rooting
23:47
Speaker 2: for the terrorists that are murdering Israeli civilians. Now you
23:50
Speaker 2: might say, Okay, this is a fringe group. This is
23:53
Speaker 2: not near the core of American society.
23:56
Speaker 1: Follow the money.
23:57
Speaker 2: I want to go back and just look at some
24:01
Speaker 2: of the record. Airbnb donated five hundred thousand dollars to
24:08
Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter Foundation and the NAACP. It's unclear
24:11
Speaker 2: how the money was divided between the two groups.
24:13
Speaker 1: Got a cash Amazon, This is an incredible amount of money.
24:17
Speaker 1: I hope everybody listening to this will share this. This
24:20
Speaker 1: is the part that people need to understand. Amazon donated
24:24
Speaker 1: twenty seven million across twelve or of the organizations, including
24:27
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter. It's unclear which scares the hell out
24:30
Speaker 1: of me how the twenty seven million was divvied up.
24:34
Speaker 2: Twenty seven million is a crap ton of money. Yeah.
24:37
Speaker 2: Bad Robot Productions donated two hundred thousand dollars to Black
24:41
Speaker 2: Lives Matter Los Angeles in June of twenty twenty. Coca
24:43
Speaker 2: Cola Yeah, actually, Sprite made a five hundred thousand dollars
24:48
Speaker 2: contribution to Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. Degree the
24:54
Speaker 2: deodorant planged one hundred thousand dollars the Black Lives Matter
24:58
Speaker 2: Global Network Foundation, Dash.
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Speaker 1: Half a half a million.
25:02
Speaker 2: Bucks, DoorDash five hundred thousand dollars. I used DoorDash all
25:05
Speaker 2: the time. It's it's great, it's convenient, except for the
25:08
Speaker 2: bastards of supporting Marxist organizations.
25:12
Speaker 1: It support the Palestinians and cheered them on while they're
25:15
Speaker 1: the Palestinians.
25:16
Speaker 2: Hamastomos, it's Amas terrorists. Drop Box, the founder and CEO,
25:22
Speaker 2: personally donated five hundred thousand dollars of the Black Lives
25:26
Speaker 2: Matter Global Network Foundation and said that he would personally
25:29
Speaker 2: match employee donations. Microsoft Microsoft donated two hundred and fifty
25:35
Speaker 2: thousand dollars the Black Lives Matter Foundation. And how about
25:37
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Discovery. Warner Brothers Discovery signed Patrise Colors Pledge
25:45
Speaker 2: and signed actually Patris Colors to a multi year deal
25:51
Speaker 2: to produce original programming across a range of platforms. So
25:54
Speaker 2: understand this. Warner Brothers Discovery looked at this event Marxists,
26:01
Speaker 2: this racist anti Semite who. By the way, among other things,
26:06
Speaker 2: the founders of a Black Lives Matter have also called
26:09
Speaker 2: for boycotting all white owned businesses. So the last time
26:13
Speaker 2: I checked Amazon. Jeff Bezos ain't black. Bill Gates, who
26:17
Speaker 2: owns Microsoft, is the biggest shareholder. He ain't black. These
26:21
Speaker 2: morons are literally funding organizations that are calling for boycotts
26:25
Speaker 2: of their companies.
26:27
Speaker 1: But this is this is virtue signaling one I won right.
26:31
Speaker 1: I don't want to be accused of being a racist company. Therefore,
26:34
Speaker 1: how big does it check me to be to black
26:35
Speaker 1: lives matter? Regardless of what you're supporting, even if it's
26:38
Speaker 1: terrorist organization.
26:39
Speaker 2: So here's what needs to happen everyone who watches this podcast,
26:43
Speaker 2: and we are I think this month we're going to
26:45
Speaker 2: cross the threshold of one million viewers of the month
26:48
Speaker 2: of October. I think we're on pace to do that.
26:51
Speaker 2: We've been just under a million. I think this month
26:53
Speaker 2: we're going to cross a million. This has big been
26:55
Speaker 2: our biggest month ever.
26:56
Speaker 1: Unique individuals let's speak here. But by the way, views
26:59
Speaker 1: are way the million.
27:02
Speaker 2: Views where three to four million. We're well north of that.
27:05
Speaker 2: But this is a million unique people that watch this podcast,
27:08
Speaker 2: which is blowing away CNN. It's blowing away a lot
27:11
Speaker 2: of the media. Every one of us who watches this
27:16
Speaker 2: needs to demand of these companies, Hey do you support
27:20
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter, Marxist agenda supporting Hamas? Are you anti Semites?
27:25
Speaker 2: Do you support that we need the end of Israel?
27:30
Speaker 2: That is important that these groups be held accountable. And
27:33
Speaker 2: by the way, it's not just Black Lives Matter?
27:35
Speaker 1: Can we go one another thing about Black Lives Matter?
27:37
Speaker 1: That I think also people to understand this is their
27:40
Speaker 1: total focus right now. So if you want to understand
27:43
Speaker 1: what they're doing as an organization right now, if you're
27:45
Speaker 1: writing checks right now to Black Lives Matter, if you're
27:47
Speaker 1: a corporation right in these checks they're so purpose right
27:50
Speaker 1: now is supporting Hamas.
27:52
Speaker 2: That's all they're doing right now now. To be fair,
27:54
Speaker 2: I think most of these corporations are trying to just
27:56
Speaker 2: slink into the cornfields. It reminds me of Homer Simpson,
27:59
Speaker 2: like fading into the cornfield. That that that that that
28:02
Speaker 2: mean like they're just trying to disappear. And you know what,
28:06
Speaker 2: they know the corporate media is not going to hold
28:08
Speaker 2: him to account. They know that that CNN's not going
28:11
Speaker 2: to ask, hey, why do you support a Marxist organization
28:14
Speaker 2: that wants to end Israel?
28:15
Speaker 1: Or are you still giving to them this year?
28:16
Speaker 2: Now?
28:17
Speaker 1: Is it in your corporate budget.
28:18
Speaker 2: Look, nobody's asking that they may be they may be right, now,
28:21
Speaker 2: every one of these companies needs to be asked that
28:24
Speaker 2: and and and you know it's not just Black Lives Matter,
28:26
Speaker 2: it's other radical left wing groups. So you take, for example,
28:30
Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialist of America. So Democratic Socialists of America
28:34
Speaker 2: is the radical left wing group. It's the Democratic Socialists
28:38
Speaker 2: of America is the party of ilan Omar of Cory Bush,
28:41
Speaker 2: of Rashida Taliv of AOC of Jamal Bowman, who remember
28:46
Speaker 2: pulled the fire alone because he wanted to end the vote.
28:50
Speaker 2: That's who the Democrats Socialists of America are. Watch one
28:54
Speaker 2: Colorado State representative, a guy named Tim Hernandez, when he's
28:58
Speaker 2: asked by a reporter about Hamas's atrocity. He's a Democrat
29:02
Speaker 2: Democratic Socialist, just like the rest of these. Watch how
29:05
Speaker 2: he responds.
29:07
Speaker 1: And I think it's despicable why they're protesting, for.
29:10
Speaker 5: Protesting and the fact that you can't condemn women and
29:13
Speaker 5: children and elderly.
29:14
Speaker 6: People in the streets.
29:16
Speaker 2: What about it?
29:19
Speaker 1: Do you condemn it? Why can't you say yes? Because
29:24
Speaker 1: you didn't give an answer, and every I think anybody
29:25
Speaker 1: who watches would understand there you go.
29:31
Speaker 2: Well, I think we guaranteed more than three people will
29:33
Speaker 2: watch the video.
29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we just did that.
29:35
Speaker 2: But but look, what's interesting is when he says, what about
29:41
Speaker 2: what about the women and children and elderly people being
29:45
Speaker 2: mowed down in the streets, and his response is what
29:48
Speaker 2: about it? Yeah. Look, it's just like Rashida Talib. They
29:54
Speaker 2: won't condemn the barbarism, the war crimes, the targeting of civilians,
30:00
Speaker 2: the horrific conducts of Hamas terrorists because they supported it.
30:03
Speaker 2: And so let's be clear, if you support Black Lives Matter,
30:08
Speaker 2: if you write checks to Black Lives Matter, you were
30:10
Speaker 2: supporting these Hamas terrorists. And if you support the Democrats
30:13
Speaker 2: Socialists of America, that's what you support as well, because
30:19
Speaker 2: they embrace this hatred for Israel, this hatred for Jews.
30:29
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, Hamas was murdering people simply because they
30:34
Speaker 2: were Jewish, if you were Jewish, just.
30:37
Speaker 1: Like their rockets, they don't care what it hits as
30:39
Speaker 1: long as someone dies.
30:40
Speaker 2: It's Jewish, yes, and it is naked anti Semitism and
30:45
Speaker 2: more and more on the left. That is their view
30:49
Speaker 2: is Jews are evil and deserve to be killed because
30:53
Speaker 2: they're Jewish and that sounds harsh, but that's Hamas's view.
30:57
Speaker 2: And if you defend Hamosh. Look, Black Lives Matter Chicago
31:02
Speaker 2: puts up an image of a terrorist who murdered nearly
31:05
Speaker 2: three hundred teenagers Israelis because they were Jews, and said,
31:08
Speaker 2: I stand with the murderer. I stand with the terrorist.
31:12
Speaker 1: Do it again.
31:13
Speaker 2: That is exactly what they're saying. And by the way,
31:17
Speaker 2: it's not just major fortune, five hundred companies, the media,
31:22
Speaker 2: it's also George Soros. George Soros, let me read an
31:26
Speaker 2: article from The News. Billionaire Democratic donor George Soros once
31:31
Speaker 2: slammed the US for supporting Israel and not recognizing Hamas
31:35
Speaker 2: after the terrorist group won control of the Gaza strip.
31:38
Speaker 2: In a two thousand and seven Financial Times off ed,
31:41
Speaker 2: Soros chasing the Bush administration's commitment to Israel, calling on
31:45
Speaker 2: the US and the Jewish state to work together with Hamas,
31:49
Speaker 2: whose forces killed more than nine hundred people across the
31:52
Speaker 2: Gaza border on Saturday. So, George Soros, who is by
31:56
Speaker 2: the way, one of, if not the single biggest Democrat
31:59
Speaker 2: giver donor on the Democrat side, it is funding dozens,
32:05
Speaker 2: if not hundreds of left wing organizations, is putting millions
32:09
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars, is funding the Soros Das who
32:13
Speaker 2: are refusing to lock up murderers, who, by the way,
32:15
Speaker 2: are releasing people who commit the kind of crime Samas commits,
32:18
Speaker 2: although they do it on smaller scales. They murder and
32:20
Speaker 2: rape one, two, three, four, five Americans, and the Soros
32:23
Speaker 2: Das let them go. Hamas murders fourteen hundred Israelis, thirty Americans,
32:30
Speaker 2: and Soros says, hey, America ought to work with Amas.
32:33
Speaker 2: Those are our people. That is the view of the
32:36
Speaker 2: radical left.
32:38
Speaker 1: Do you know of any other op ed that George
32:39
Speaker 1: Soros has written? Because for George Soros to go out
32:42
Speaker 1: there and to want to do an op ed defending
32:45
Speaker 1: Hamas and attacking Israel, he has to really believe this
32:50
Speaker 1: at a whole nother level, because he's not a guy
32:53
Speaker 1: yet he does a lot behind the scenes. He's a
32:54
Speaker 1: behind the scenes guy, but to publicly come out and
32:57
Speaker 1: to do that and to say I stand with him, basically,
33:00
Speaker 1: you need to accept Thomas Hamas or the people you
33:03
Speaker 1: need to be standing by. If that's what's sort of
33:06
Speaker 1: saying publicly, imagine what he's saying privately.
33:09
Speaker 2: Look, this is the modern radical left. They hate Israel.
33:16
Speaker 2: We talked about the last part how Jake Tapper went
33:20
Speaker 2: went on CNN and said, Wow, the anti Semitism and
33:24
Speaker 2: the far left is really becoming apparent to a lot
33:26
Speaker 2: of us, and it's shocking a lot of us. Well, look,
33:29
Speaker 2: it's not shocking anyone who's paying attention. This is who
33:32
Speaker 2: they are. The hate Jews, the hate Israel, and every
33:37
Speaker 2: one of the leftists who embraced Black Lives Matter. You
33:41
Speaker 2: cannot support Black Lives Matter, the Marxist institution and claim
33:47
Speaker 2: you support Israel. Those are fundamentally inconsistent because they are
33:51
Speaker 2: profoundly anti Semitic. They want the destruction of Israel. Their
33:57
Speaker 2: co founder said her objective is to end the imperialist
34:02
Speaker 2: project that is Israel, and they openly embrace and support
34:06
Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists. So ask yourselves. If you're a head
34:11
Speaker 2: of corporate philanthropy at any company and you write the check,
34:14
Speaker 2: you sign your name to a check to Black Lives Matter,
34:18
Speaker 2: understand that you're signing a check saying I stand with
34:21
Speaker 2: the terrorist who are raping and murdering children. Because there
34:25
Speaker 2: is no gray area in this There is good and
34:29
Speaker 2: evil and these hamas terrorist or evil.
34:32
Speaker 1: You also have a very interesting thing that's happening, and
34:34
Speaker 1: that's Look, you've got Soros. And some people may say,
34:36
Speaker 1: look Soros BLM, they're kind of on the outside. Okay,
34:40
Speaker 1: well look at this administration. John Kerry, who's in this administration,
34:44
Speaker 1: he has his own problem in the past when it
34:46
Speaker 1: comes to his thoughts on Israel that are now coming
34:49
Speaker 1: back into play, and they should have been the clip
34:51
Speaker 1: we're about to play should have been played everywhere to
34:54
Speaker 1: give you kind of a perspective on the people that
34:56
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is surrounding himself with. Take a look at
34:59
Speaker 1: Carrie in a his own words. Back in twenty fourteen.
35:02
Speaker 7: Secret recordings of the Secretary of State John Carey during
35:05
Speaker 7: closed door meeting with a Trilateral Commission group of global leaders.
35:08
Speaker 7: They were talking about the Middle East peace process when
35:11
Speaker 7: the Secretary of straight dropped this bombshell, the unitary state.
35:16
Speaker 2: Lines of either the apartized state, seventy class citizens or
35:21
Speaker 2: lines of being states is the shortest the capacity in
35:24
Speaker 2: this room, and.
35:25
Speaker 3: He was shaved.
35:26
Speaker 1: He was Secretary of State under Barack Obama at the time.
35:29
Speaker 1: When he said that he has a job in this
35:31
Speaker 1: administration with what they still say. Remember a week ago,
35:35
Speaker 1: when all this happened, this terrorist attack happened, they were
35:38
Speaker 1: still out there on TV saying that climate is the
35:40
Speaker 1: number one threat to everybody in the world. It looked,
35:42
Speaker 1: and that's his job now, Remember that's his new job.
35:44
Speaker 1: The climate Zar, whatever the hell they call it.
35:46
Speaker 2: John Kerry is today the climate Zar, today, the head
35:49
Speaker 2: of Chinese communist appeasement, because as climates are, his main
35:54
Speaker 2: job is to purchase wind solar products from communist China
35:58
Speaker 2: produced with Chinese slave labor and concentration camp. So that's
36:01
Speaker 2: what he's doing now. He's perfectly comfortable with supporting evil,
36:05
Speaker 2: with supporting slavery, with supporting mass genocide which Communist China
36:10
Speaker 2: is committing. But previously, when he was Secretary of State. Look,
36:14
Speaker 2: those comments were not made when he was just sort
36:16
Speaker 2: of a rogue citizen, some clown. Those comments were made
36:20
Speaker 2: when he was the sitting US Secretary of State. And
36:23
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember what I did following
36:25
Speaker 2: those comments. I went to the Senate floor and I
36:29
Speaker 2: called on John Kerry to resign because I said, those
36:32
Speaker 2: comments will be repeated by every enemy of Israel. They
36:37
Speaker 2: will be repeated by Hamas. They were repeated by Hesbala,
36:39
Speaker 2: they will be repeated by Iran and say, this is
36:43
Speaker 2: not us saying this. This is the United States Secretary
36:45
Speaker 2: of State that says Israel is an apartheid state. That
36:49
Speaker 2: is a lie, an utter lie. But it is a
36:52
Speaker 2: lie that is driven by people that want the number
36:55
Speaker 2: of Jewish states on planet Earth to be zero because
36:58
Speaker 2: they say, well, we want to bring enough Palestinians into
37:02
Speaker 2: Israel that they control Israel as well, so there are
37:05
Speaker 2: zero Jewish states. There is in fact a Jewish state
37:08
Speaker 2: in Israel. Now. They protect the rights of Muslims, they
37:13
Speaker 2: protect the rights of Arabs and Israel. And by the way,
37:15
Speaker 2: Gaza they Gaza. Israel left Israel seated sovereignty. The Palestinian
37:22
Speaker 2: authority runs Gaza entirely. Hamas runs Gaza entirely. When when
37:27
Speaker 2: the leftists refer to Gaza as an open air prison,
37:30
Speaker 2: they may be right, but the jail guards are Hamas.
37:34
Speaker 2: Israel's not the jail guards. All they're doing is saying
37:37
Speaker 2: stay where you are, stay out of Israel.
37:39
Speaker 1: Well, and to prove your point, the reporting is clear.
37:42
Speaker 1: Israel said get out of Gaza, and we know that
37:45
Speaker 1: Hamas was forcing people to stay in Gaza because they
37:48
Speaker 1: wanted us to be able to die so they can
37:50
Speaker 1: blame Israel for its and everything. Yeah, they're trying to
37:54
Speaker 1: say please leave before we come in, and Hamas is
37:57
Speaker 1: saying you can't leave his prison.
37:59
Speaker 4: Is it?
38:00
Speaker 2: No, Hamas wants Palestinian civilians to die. Why because CNN
38:06
Speaker 2: and the rest of the media will then amplify it
38:09
Speaker 2: and do just what they did with Palestinian hospital. Yeah,
38:12
Speaker 2: they'll blame Israel because they're already ready to blame Israel.
38:15
Speaker 2: They are part of the propaganda effort, and Hamas recognizes
38:20
Speaker 2: they don't have the military force to defeat Israel. They
38:23
Speaker 2: believe that the global corporate media does have the power
38:27
Speaker 2: to defeat Israel, and so they're not even an ancillary
38:30
Speaker 2: part of the strategy. They're an integral part of the strategy.
38:34
Speaker 2: And today they demonstrated exactly why Hamas feels they can
38:39
Speaker 2: count on the corporate media to be their biggest ally.
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Speaker 2: Pence stands up and a taxi and Mike Pence has
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Speaker 2: criticism of Trump, and Trump turns to him. And if
42:26
Speaker 2: Trump were to follow this order, I guess Trump would say,
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Speaker 2: I would like to respond to those comments, but I
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Speaker 2: am prohibited by court order from saying anything regarding the
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Speaker 2: individual who just said that. That's absurd. That is right
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Speaker 2: in the face, laughing at the First Amendment, laughing at
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Speaker 2: free speech, laughing at the democratic process. Now watch and
42:49
Speaker 2: listen to what Donald Trump said in response to this.
42:53
Speaker 3: They think the only way they can.
42:55
Speaker 6: Catch me is to stop me from speaking. They want
42:57
Speaker 6: to take away my voice. And a judge gave a
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Speaker 6: gag order today.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that?
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Speaker 6: On speech? Which I believe is totally unconstitutional? What she did?
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Speaker 6: A judge gave a gag order. A judge doesn't like
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Speaker 6: me too much. Her whole life is not like in me,
43:13
Speaker 6: but she gave a gag order. You know what a
43:15
Speaker 6: gag order is. You can't speak badly about your opponent.
43:21
Speaker 6: But this is weaponry. All being done because Joe Biden
43:24
Speaker 6: is losing the election and losing very very badly to
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Speaker 6: all of us. In the polls, he's losing badly. But
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Speaker 6: what they don't understand is that I am willing to
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Speaker 6: go to jail if that's what it takes for our
43:36
Speaker 6: country to win and become a democracy again.
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Speaker 1: By the way, that's why people love him. Look, he's
43:46
Speaker 1: calling it out and saying, fine, you want to go there,
43:48
Speaker 1: you can put me in jail. I'm willing to go
43:51
Speaker 1: to defend my rights to that end.
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Speaker 2: There are very few statements Donald Trump has made that
43:55
Speaker 2: I agree with more emphatically than what he.
43:57
Speaker 1: Just said there.
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Speaker 2: That is a exactly right. By the way, on the
44:02
Speaker 2: face of it, he arguably violated the gag order right there,
44:06
Speaker 2: because he's pointing out that the judge is a radical
44:08
Speaker 2: leftist and is in fact one of the most liberal judges,
44:11
Speaker 2: if not the most liberal judge on the entire DC Court.
44:15
Speaker 2: I don't think the DC judge is going to dare
44:18
Speaker 2: to put him in jail like you could.
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Speaker 1: She really couldn't. That was my question based on that.
44:24
Speaker 1: Could she actually go and arrest him.
44:26
Speaker 2: She could issue an order go arrest him and put
44:28
Speaker 2: him in jail. Part of me wants her to do
44:34
Speaker 2: that because if she did, he would immediately appeal, and
44:38
Speaker 2: I am absolutely certain the appellate courts would reverse it.
44:41
Speaker 2: I put it at one hundred percent even for a
44:46
Speaker 2: hardcore leftist judge. She knows that she's not going to lie.
44:50
Speaker 1: And why did she do the gag order? That's my
44:52
Speaker 1: question because if you know Donald Trump at all, you
44:55
Speaker 1: know he's going to push that button.
44:56
Speaker 2: Because there's an arrogance to it. And I think what
44:59
Speaker 2: she probably will do is find him. I think you
45:03
Speaker 2: will see her at some point. I don't think she'll
45:05
Speaker 2: take that comment. I think she'll try to find something
45:08
Speaker 2: that is really explicitly blasting the prosecutor explicitly blasting Mike
45:14
Speaker 2: Pence or some other potential witness. And I think what
45:17
Speaker 2: is likely to that we're likely to see is that
45:21
Speaker 2: she enters an order finding him one thousand dollars or
45:24
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars or fifty or hundred whatever some amount.
45:29
Speaker 2: And I expect that fine to be appealed, but it
45:32
Speaker 2: will not be appealed with the urgency of if she
45:36
Speaker 2: issued an order for the leading Republican candidate to be incarcerated.
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Speaker 1: And the former president of the United States of America, Yes,
45:43
Speaker 1: that appeal would be resolved within hours like that would
45:47
Speaker 1: be done on an emergency expedited basis.
45:50
Speaker 2: And even the d C Circuit leans left. I don't
45:53
Speaker 2: believe the DC Circuit look The Supreme Court, in a
46:01
Speaker 2: case called Seattle Times versus Reinhardt, said that Litigan's First
46:05
Speaker 2: Amendment rights quote may be subordinated to other interests that
46:08
Speaker 2: arise in the courthouse. For instance, on several occasions, this
46:11
Speaker 2: Court has approved restrictions on the communication of trial participants
46:14
Speaker 2: where necessary to ensure a fair trial for a criminal defendant.
46:18
Speaker 2: But this isn't designed to ensure a fair trial for
46:20
Speaker 2: criminal defendant. In fact, just the opposite. This is designed
46:23
Speaker 2: to hurt the criminal defendant. And I will point out
46:28
Speaker 2: in New York Times versus Sullivan, which is a landmark,
46:31
Speaker 2: maybe the landmark free speech freedom of the press case,
46:36
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court said that the First Amendment reflects quote,
46:39
Speaker 2: a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on
46:43
Speaker 2: public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide open, and
46:48
Speaker 2: that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly
46:52
Speaker 2: sharp attack on government and public officials. What this judge
46:57
Speaker 2: just said is you're not allowed to criticize the prosecutor.
46:59
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to criticize Merrick Garland, the most political
47:01
Speaker 2: Attorney general in America's history, for weaponize the Department of
47:05
Speaker 2: Justice to go after you because he's afraid you'll win
47:07
Speaker 2: the election and he wants to abuse the justice system
47:09
Speaker 2: to lock you up because he doesn't want the voters
47:11
Speaker 2: to be able to vote for you. You're not allowed to
47:14
Speaker 2: say that because while you're running for president, I don't
47:17
Speaker 2: want I don't want the voters to hear that. That's
47:19
Speaker 2: not about the jury pool. That's not about protecting the
47:22
Speaker 2: integrity of the trial. That's about I don't like anyone
47:26
Speaker 2: knowing what's going on. Now everyone knows what's going on.
47:28
Speaker 2: That's why every time Trump gets indicted, his numbers in
47:31
Speaker 2: the primary go up, because it's obvious whether you like
47:35
Speaker 2: Trump or don't like Trump. Even people that don't like Trump,
47:37
Speaker 2: they look at this and say, this is garbage and
47:41
Speaker 2: this gag order. I gotta say, this judge may overreach,
47:49
Speaker 2: and I think this gag order is overreaching. Now, the
47:53
Speaker 2: gag order, on the face of it, is not likely
47:56
Speaker 2: to be immediately appealable on an expedite basis. When the
48:02
Speaker 2: appeal will speed up in all likelihood is when the
48:05
Speaker 2: judge orders a consequence. If the judge ordered incarceration, if
48:10
Speaker 2: the judge says locks on, do that. I don't think
48:13
Speaker 2: she is I actually don't. I think I don't know
48:16
Speaker 2: this judge at all. I've never practiced in front of her.
48:18
Speaker 2: I don't know her. But from everything I know, I'm
48:20
Speaker 2: assuming and her record indicate she's a hardcore leftist. But
48:23
Speaker 2: I don't think she's stupid. If you issue an order
48:27
Speaker 2: go incarcerate the president of the United States, lock them up,
48:30
Speaker 2: by the way, you want to talk about unprecedented, put
48:33
Speaker 2: it in handcuffs, put it in prison. Secret Service is
48:35
Speaker 2: coming with him, So in the cell, you're gonna have
48:37
Speaker 2: Secret Service agents protecting Donald Trump in prison. If she
48:41
Speaker 2: issued that order, you would have an emergency expedited appeal.
48:45
Speaker 2: And my prediction is in less than a day it
48:47
Speaker 2: would be reversed. I actually think in hours. I don't
48:49
Speaker 2: even think it'd take It wouldn't take twenty four hours.
48:51
Speaker 2: It would take a couple of hours. And Trump is
48:53
Speaker 2: exactly right. Send me to jail, you crazy lunatic partisan
48:59
Speaker 2: who who is rubber stamping this abuse of power from
49:03
Speaker 2: the most partisan attorney general we've ever seen.
49:06
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
49:07
Speaker 2: This gag order is a sad moment in American democracy.
49:10
Speaker 2: It's a sad moment for American free speech. And let
49:13
Speaker 2: me close the podcast with this question. Can you name
49:17
Speaker 2: a single Democrat who's criticized the gag order?
49:21
Speaker 1: Not a one, So I.
49:23
Speaker 2: Can't name an elected Democrat, but I can. Actually, I'm
49:27
Speaker 2: gonna close with this, I can name Erwin Chimerinsky. So
49:32
Speaker 2: Erwin Chimerinsky, I know him well. He's a very liberal,
49:35
Speaker 2: left wing law professor. When I litigated the case defending
49:39
Speaker 2: the Texas Ten Commandments monument in Texas went to the
49:42
Speaker 2: Supreme Court, we won five to four. The lawyer on
49:45
Speaker 2: the other side was Erwin Chimerinsky. He and I have
49:48
Speaker 2: done multiple debates one on one. He's a very smart,
49:51
Speaker 2: very affable, very liberal constitutional law professor. So Erwin wrote
49:57
Speaker 2: on October seventeenth, twenty twenty three, and op ed in
50:00
Speaker 2: the La Times entitled a federal judges gag order against
50:03
Speaker 2: Trump may be satisfying, but it isn't constitutional. And here's
50:08
Speaker 2: what Erwin wrote. Basic First Amendment principles cast serious doubt
50:12
Speaker 2: on the judge's order. Quote the Supreme Court is long
50:14
Speaker 2: held that court orders prohibiting speech constitute prior restraint and
50:18
Speaker 2: allowed are allowed only in extraordinary, compelling circumstances. Quote. What
50:22
Speaker 2: is particularly troubling about Chutkin's order is that it seems
50:26
Speaker 2: primarily concerned with protecting prosecutors and court personnel from Trump's vitriol.
50:31
Speaker 2: The law is clear that speech can't be restricted to
50:34
Speaker 2: prevent government officials from being criticized or even vilified. Quote.
50:39
Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment
50:42
Speaker 2: protects a right to criticize government officials, even harshly. Quote.
50:46
Speaker 2: There is no reason to believe, however, that Trump's criticism
50:49
Speaker 2: of Smith, his staff, or court personnel will prevent a
50:52
Speaker 2: fair trial. It is impossible to imagine that Trump's attacks
50:56
Speaker 2: will change how the prosecutors behave Irwin Chemerinsky is mistrating principle.
51:00
Speaker 2: Here's absolutely right. Name one Democrat senator who's shown this principle.
51:07
Speaker 2: Name one Democrat House member who shown this principle. If
51:10
Speaker 2: they exist, I don't know about it. Because today's Democrat
51:13
Speaker 2: members of Congress hate Donald Trump so much that the
51:17
Speaker 2: rule of law, the First Amendment, the Constitution, free speech
51:22
Speaker 2: none of it matters. Trump hatred defines today's Democrat Party.
51:27
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