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Full Episode: David & Tamela Mann of “Tyler Perry’s Assisted Living,” Keshia Knight Pulliam & Cassi Davis Patton of "Tyler Perry's House of Payne," & educator Dr. Steve Perry · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: guest today, it's a smile on my face. David and
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  Speaker 1: Tamla Man. They're the stars of Tyler Pere's Assisted Living
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  Speaker 1: on b ET. Let me give you some background. A man,
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  Speaker 1: David Man, he's an INN double a CP Image Award
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  Speaker 1: winning Actor Outstanding Actor in comedy series Meet the Brown
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  Speaker 1: because you know him as Mr Brown and then let's
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  Speaker 1: get the big dumb run over for the lady. Tambler
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  Speaker 1: Man is a Grammy Award winning b e T Award winner,
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  Speaker 1: bill Board Music Award winner in double A CP Image
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  Speaker 1: Aboard Women Gospel Music Stellar Award winner g m A
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  Speaker 1: double win, an actress, songwriter, producer, and businesswoman who all
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  Speaker 1: time but boy tied to do this interview. David and
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  Speaker 1: Tamler Man on the show to talk about the new
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  Speaker 1: season of Tyler Pears Assistant Living coming back on BT
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  Speaker 1: because you can't keep it all because it's number one,
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  Speaker 1: that's why, number one with eighteen and four to night,
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  Speaker 1: number one with phone Television twenty one, and it's already
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  Speaker 1: been renewed. Ain't that nice? Ain't that nice? Please? Brocome money?
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  Speaker 1: Conversation David and Tamla Man, WHOA come on, y'all, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: I love it, you know you love I think I
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  Speaker 1: think I want you to do my my you legit
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  Speaker 1: at my funeral? Well making introductions like that. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you something. First of all, y'all know you'a have a
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  Speaker 1: favorite couple, oh you know favorite obviously your favorite couple
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  Speaker 1: from Tyler Para Tou because you know, you guys became
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  Speaker 1: legends in the stage play world. And then he was
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  Speaker 1: able to to turn in at you your own tour
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  Speaker 1: because right before the COVID hit, you guys were touring
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  Speaker 1: as a family. Is it gonna come back? H in one?
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  Speaker 1: That was just gonna be moving two when y'all go
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  Speaker 1: back on the road, take the family back on the
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  Speaker 1: road as a tour. You know, we we we're just
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  Speaker 1: trying to juggle and get back to normal. First before
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  Speaker 1: we you know, we're releasing new music for Tabla and
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  Speaker 1: uh right now we're just trying to maneuver and just
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  Speaker 1: figure out this old, new new way of normal. And
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  Speaker 1: then we only look, I'm ready to go back out.
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  Speaker 1: I just want everybody else to be ready too. Well.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's very true, because you know I would
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody I'm fully vaccinated. I always tell I try
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  Speaker 1: to promote the factor. We have to get vaccinated. We
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  Speaker 1: have to get out there to get you know, and
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  Speaker 1: promote the factor. And no, there's no agenda, and guess what,
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  Speaker 1: nothing's perfect out there. I'm not saying if you get vaccinated,
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  Speaker 1: you might not have some ill effects. But I would
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  Speaker 1: tell you this, and you know I both know. Once
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  Speaker 1: I got vaccinated, it changed my whole perspective. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: paranor it anymore. I felt safer. I felt I could
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  Speaker 1: get on with my life. What would your what would
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  Speaker 1: you eat? Your feedback when you got vaccinated work for us?
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  Speaker 1: I mean some, you know, some parts like even when
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  Speaker 1: I say so my kids, it was like, no, we're
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  Speaker 1: not doing I was like, but we're doing it, because
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  Speaker 1: like when I go see my mother in law, she
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  Speaker 1: had some issues. I have a sister that has some issues.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's just people that's around me that have issues,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not just looking at for me, I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at for them as well, and even as you know,
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  Speaker 1: for the family. So we're just not even, like you say,
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  Speaker 1: encouraging people to just you know, do do what's right
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  Speaker 1: for you, do what's right for you. But we we
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was right, and like you said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it just made us less paranoia. We're around a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people, we traveled, and so I wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: back to that and and it not just be like
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, you know you know who I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, they have it right. It gave us a
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  Speaker 1: you know, it just made us feel a little safer.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm the words because I'm I'm such a hugger.
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  Speaker 1: I was scared. He was like, if you're somebody could
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  Speaker 1: have a phone blown COVID because she wanted to hook
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  Speaker 1: you didn't know, but it was just I was just
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  Speaker 1: so used to it. So I'm just we were at
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  Speaker 1: a funeral, supposed to be social distancing. She doesn't grab
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  Speaker 1: the mic and hit the mike with a lift, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people coming up to her. No, No, we're not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be absolutely you know. And then I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: David chamlin Man and uh, you know, any any story
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  Speaker 1: that they tell us as an honest story, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a story about life. And the thing about it is
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  Speaker 1: before we was talking the last time I've seen it,
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  Speaker 1: and David, you started talking about how music and I'll
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  Speaker 1: just tell you all. Tamla man Sell a historic and
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  Speaker 1: personal industry record, the first gospel lead artists and Billboard
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  Speaker 1: Gospel history, three consecutive number ones from an album. This
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  Speaker 1: is who we're talking about. And so I always want
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  Speaker 1: to bring out that diversity because I'm also gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about your business, your entrepreneurship you leisure line and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff and your various campaigns, and they also want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the producer side that you do. David.
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  Speaker 1: What I like to always bring up when I bring
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  Speaker 1: talent like you on money making conversation. People see only
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  Speaker 1: one side of you. They see the entertainment side, they
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  Speaker 1: see the comedic side, but you're there are layers to
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  Speaker 1: the man's family. Tamela tell us about that, well, like,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we're started with with me. For me,
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  Speaker 1: it started with music, then we started into the acting thing.
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  Speaker 1: And now you know, David, he pushed me. He pushed
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  Speaker 1: me into really big standing out being an artist, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for because he's helped me, with God's help,
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  Speaker 1: He's helped me become the actress and the artist that
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  Speaker 1: I am today. And then even to go into the
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  Speaker 1: clothing line temping them and collection which is at at
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  Speaker 1: leisure Wear, you know, so forth, like like I have
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  Speaker 1: something on today, but I'm just really excited about all
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  Speaker 1: the different things that we that we do have our
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  Speaker 1: hands in because we've learned that you can't put all
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  Speaker 1: your eggs in one basket. That means it's like you're
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  Speaker 1: concentrating just on one thing, but sometimes you have more
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  Speaker 1: than just one gift. And it's just like him with
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  Speaker 1: he is the mastermind of all of our little things
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  Speaker 1: that we have going on, and I really appreciate him
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  Speaker 1: pushing us even as a family. I'm a big even
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  Speaker 1: in ownership. I like ownership. I like to own my masters.
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  Speaker 1: I like the home, you know. I just I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big believer in own it. And you know that way
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  Speaker 1: you can create the narrative for yourself and you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to have somebody else to kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: navigate how you want to do it. So that that's
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  Speaker 1: just how I operate the business is just like let's
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  Speaker 1: just get in there. Because with her, I told him,
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  Speaker 1: you have a following. People see you snatched, They want
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  Speaker 1: to know how you snatched. They want to know how
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  Speaker 1: you look, where you get that stuff from. So she
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  Speaker 1: just started creating and designing her own stuff, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, don't worry, I'll get somebody. We can start
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  Speaker 1: distributing it. And that's the way it was with the music.
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  Speaker 1: I'll find this distribution, will you know, we'll produce it
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  Speaker 1: ourselves and make it do so I have new music
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  Speaker 1: coming June for a new single help Me. The new
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  Speaker 1: album is don't drop in all this look I'll be
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  Speaker 1: back you know, we'll be back drop. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: in it. But I'm really excited about it because I
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  Speaker 1: have you know, just looking at you know, yourself, and
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  Speaker 1: and David and and really putting my hands to work
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  Speaker 1: this album. I put my hands to work more than
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  Speaker 1: I ever have with any of the other ones. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: because we did have the pandemic, we had more time.
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  Speaker 1: I was writing more, just even putting the help and
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  Speaker 1: we put the artwork together, just creating the ideas for videos.
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  Speaker 1: But we just want to encourage our people that we
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  Speaker 1: can make it happen if we if we support each other,
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  Speaker 1: we can make it happen for each other. You know.
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  Speaker 1: An interesting thing about it is that you're you're a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful couple and and the Longevity book. When I had
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  Speaker 1: you guys on the show talking about that, and when
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  Speaker 1: when because that means that it's possible, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we always hear the fifth percent of the marriage and
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  Speaker 1: the divorce. What is the most when I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: David and Tamila Man, what advice do you give the
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  Speaker 1: people who struggling because you know, you have a strong faith.
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  Speaker 1: We all know faith is tied to that. What advice
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  Speaker 1: do you give when those moments of doubt come into
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  Speaker 1: a relationship. I always tell, like I tell my staff
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  Speaker 1: and tell tell everybody, there's a there's a little picture
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  Speaker 1: and there's a big picture. I'm looking at the big
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  Speaker 1: picture of it all. What what is to come? And
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  Speaker 1: you know, for us, even as a couple in the industry,
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying with divorce, we genuinely enjoy each
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  Speaker 1: other's company. People ask us, what's the key, what's the secret?
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  Speaker 1: I like this woman right here, and we've managed we
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  Speaker 1: we just celebrated thirty three years in April, and it's
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  Speaker 1: because we genuinely enjoy each other's company. In this pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people were locked in the house seven with
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  Speaker 1: each other. So either you you discovered I really love
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  Speaker 1: you or you discovered I don't like you at all? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: yes yes. For us, we discovered I like you even more.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it had to, you know, because people were
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  Speaker 1: leaving here. So I just never want to take him
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  Speaker 1: for granted. And you know the things that he do
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  Speaker 1: for me and help me with, you know, and I
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  Speaker 1: just want to become more of a friend or wife,
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  Speaker 1: whatever areas that he needs. I just want to be there,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't want it to be one sided
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  Speaker 1: that you're helping me accomplish everything that I want to accomplish.
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  Speaker 1: I want to help you accomplish some of those things too.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like we try to put each other before
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  Speaker 1: each other. You know, it's not not looking at it
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  Speaker 1: through just a one vision, uh one. I just focused
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  Speaker 1: on myself that I but it's on both of us
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  Speaker 1: that we were making things happen for each other. We'll
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  Speaker 1: know an interesting thing. That's why I'm so happy to
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  Speaker 1: see you guys again, because you know David, he called
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  Speaker 1: me all the time, or I called him, Sure, I
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  Speaker 1: got this new record, look at this video? Can you
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  Speaker 1: help me drop it? You know, because he's a natural
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  Speaker 1: business person. Pandemic shut down a lot of that because
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  Speaker 1: we all were confused. The world stopped. We didn't know
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  Speaker 1: when it was gonna start back up. And now that
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  Speaker 1: it's starting back up, and I see the success in
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  Speaker 1: that tunity. Now you lead your where you know you
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  Speaker 1: you are a RP representative. All those things were coming
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  Speaker 1: your way. You're looking on the other's hand, David, you're
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  Speaker 1: like a manager, proud husband, proud papa. I told you so,
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  Speaker 1: I told you can do a guy when you look
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  Speaker 1: at that. That's why, that's why I read those credits
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  Speaker 1: like I read them. I read David and the joke y,
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  Speaker 1: I just read all of hers because he's responsible for
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  Speaker 1: that three years. He really is. Because people even ask
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  Speaker 1: him Rochelle. It's like like, because well, I know that you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people asking me the crazy questions like well,
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  Speaker 1: you you're making all the money. No, I'm really not
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  Speaker 1: making all money, y'all really just don't know, like you said.
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  Speaker 1: He is the mastermind behind it all. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: we're doing this together, and you know, it's like we're
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  Speaker 1: both in the forth. And even in that, I'm so
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  Speaker 1: secure and who I am. None of that even bothers
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  Speaker 1: me when I tell you at all, because I'm so
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  Speaker 1: at fifty five, I'm so cool and who I am.
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  Speaker 1: They could come up and say all of that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, good, that's great. Yeah, because we both share
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  Speaker 1: the same last name, and the bank account, all the
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  Speaker 1: numbers on the bank accounts, it has both about the names,
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  Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter to me. Well that then, and
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  Speaker 1: that and I know it doesn't. But what I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say in that and just emphasize is the roles
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  Speaker 1: that we play in the marriage or the roles that
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  Speaker 1: were playing a relationship. And what happens is that's what
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  Speaker 1: destroyers are married and get confused. You know, you know
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  Speaker 1: what success? What role did you play? And I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is that he plays a very subtle role publicly and
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  Speaker 1: that's the beauty of who he is. That's what I
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  Speaker 1: love David Man. You know, he is so brilliant as
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  Speaker 1: a comedian, as an actor. And then you sit in
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  Speaker 1: a room with and you go, do you know who
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  Speaker 1: you are? What you're talking about? Roshan you you one
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  Speaker 1: of the funniest guys. I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy quiet off And when I was talking to you, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we shout we regular, We just regular people. And y'all know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all not I look I mean, because you know what
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't look at that celebrity thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like we're all special with all stars
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  Speaker 1: in guy's eye. I mean, I thank God for the
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  Speaker 1: platform that the Lord is helped us, you know, get
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  Speaker 1: And I haven't want to say that but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: really grateful for the opportunity to help somebody else, encourage
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. That's what it's all about when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to my music. You know, even with the clothing line,
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  Speaker 1: it's for the full figure women because sometimes in so
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  Speaker 1: many areas, I feel like we get left out where
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  Speaker 1: our stuff is not as cute as stuff with a
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  Speaker 1: smaller woman. Not knocking them, but we won't cute stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I did that. Every day. Thick girls
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  Speaker 1: need love too, So it's like we just want to
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just having a serious conversation. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: just dive in with ged to. They need fashion, they
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  Speaker 1: need they need a okay, it's not about just wearing
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  Speaker 1: t shirts and tights. No, No, they need fashion. They
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  Speaker 1: need some savagies, you know. And it's just really it's
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  Speaker 1: really a blessing to be a blessing to somebody else
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  Speaker 1: where you let other people know that things can happen
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  Speaker 1: for you too. Well, here's the thing, nobody, because you
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  Speaker 1: know I met you sucking and man, you came in
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  Speaker 1: my life second, the first he came into my life first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I will tell everybody publicly like I
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  Speaker 1: think I know everything, but I don't know everything. I
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  Speaker 1: think I know who are famous, then I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who famous. The first time I met Mr Man was
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  Speaker 1: that when um Bisial tv J held his gospel celebration
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and uh, you know, me and Steve we're
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  Speaker 1: walking around like we started. You know, we're walking around here,
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  Speaker 1: har I'm next year. I'm getting all this shadow. You
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  Speaker 1: know I'm gonna start because I'm in this shadow, right.
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  Speaker 1: And then this dude came around the corner with these
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  Speaker 1: ugly pants on they were too tight, and walked on
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  Speaker 1: ain't in the place, exploded and like, Steve, who is that? Dude?
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  Speaker 1: I think that Mr Brown? Who is Mr? Brown? Me?
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  Speaker 1: You are a phenomenon, You are an underground phenomenon, David Man.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm telling what Steve said. At first, my kids
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  Speaker 1: are back there and they said Steve said, who is
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  Speaker 1: they saying? Well, I'm with David Man, who is the
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  Speaker 1: mad Man? Then I went on saye and it was
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  Speaker 1: like that and Steve was like, oh, okay, you do Steve, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: throw me some shade. Dude. Well we are Meetcho, Meetcho.
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  Speaker 1: Because I didn't know who you're watching. Hold you with
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  Speaker 1: get pants on? He took over. I mean, twenty thousand
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  Speaker 1: people were following him. If he had a pipe, he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't lay them right down the street because they were
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  Speaker 1: fans of you. I don't care about Steve Harvey, showtime
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  Speaker 1: at the Apollo def Comedy jam Me and the Boys.
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  Speaker 1: You my brother built a Star Power fan base underground
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  Speaker 1: before TV, before radio. Tell us about that journey. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: David Man, you know what I mean. I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this character for twenty years and never could have imagined
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that playing this character could could make my dreams, her dreams,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: some of our kids, grandkids could make I mean some
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of our dreams come true. Never could have imagined we
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: were just doing it. We had to be on the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: road to earn an honest living. Kept us from doing it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Legal stuff, but it was it. Never could have imagined
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that it would grow to this, to where doing another
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: television show assist a living and still be relevant after
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: twenty years. That's in this industry. You know that that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. And I don't take it for granted.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I just know that it's really a blessing. It really is. Now.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: The characters that you guys play really were born out
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of a play for Tyler's Perry's play correct. You know Coore,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you played his daughter in the TV series Assisted Living.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You got my board? Watch out there now. J Anthony
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Brown on I've been jail Jenni Brothers eight six, A
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: little history of me when I when I left my
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: job at IBM to go to stand up comedy. He
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: was the first black comedian I met on the role.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: He was headlining, and it was in Mobile, Alabama where
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: we met. And back then they wouldn't put in two
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: black comedians on the show at the same time. It's
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: just the white headline of counsel at the last minute,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and they brought Jens Brown in as an emergency. That's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: how I met him, and he's and he's been in
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: my life every since. So I know you gotta get
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a special talent. J Coles about two days ago, Man,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: this song. I didn't know you were singing like this.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: He was listening to a song from the Love album
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: ups and Downs. Because I didn't play it by five times,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he text men, comes up, I'm loving this song. I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: loving this song. I was like, I'm just doing what
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I think. He's a very nice man. He's a very
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: night he's funny, but he's a very nice guy. Very
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: nice guy. Well, just like you guys, don't trying for nothing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But there ain't no time just right now. You if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you're waiting for your food, you better go in and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: eat because it's gonna get cold. Wait, no, j Anthon Brown,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but when you come in, he gonna light up the room. Though,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: when you come in is when I tell you that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the energy that he brings to the show. Sometimes we're like, Jay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: did you just say what I thank you saying? And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: then you know, I'm always telling him, Okay, okay, come
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: on with cousin James, come on. I'm like, okay, remember
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: we got kids just watching too, Okay, I will do it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And then Papa the energy that he brings to this show. Man,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's a joy working with. And I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: can't say that about everybody. You know, we know And
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: here's the thing about it, because I'm talking to David
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and Tamler man Uh started new Tyler Perry's Assisted Living
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: series as aeron BT every Tuesday and nine thirty follows
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the House of Pain at nine o'clock and it's it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry block. Every Tuesday, on being I'm just
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be real now, you know, Tyler Perry taking over everything,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry gonna be Tyler Perry gonna be on the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: moon pretty soon. You want to just look up them,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: just see t p TV probably right there. But you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: know when I when I look at the success of
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the Man's because you're a brand. Now, Now what is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the responsibility of being a brand? Because both of you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: guys are out there and then you take a management
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: producer role oftentimes David, and you take a talent but
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you're still an entrepreneur, businesswoman. There's a lot of things
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: going in there. Thirty three years of marriage and I'll
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: celebrate my thirty three year of marriage and December, So
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: thank you very much, thank you very much. So that's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what we're always gonna have that little link together because
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I old there was a moment in my life, especially entertainment.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: When you're traveling, you're traveling, and entertainment is a fickle
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: business because there's no consistency. You can't sometimes buy a house,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you can't buy clothes, you can't die anything because you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: know that check you got is gonna be there next week.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So over I talk about overcoming that uncertainty to maintain
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: this longevity, and then we're gonna talk more about the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: serious in detail assisted living. You know, been in this industry,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we've been in this industry for twenty five years, and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like you said, we got a lot of friends that said,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know what, and a lot of talented brothers that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have said, you know what, y'all going to do that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the uncertainty is too much for me. What we decided
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to do is just jump out there full just in faith.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think we start ninety ninety three
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: or something like that, I don't know, somewhere back and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: then we would decide just getting into the game. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it was like scary because sometimes it's up, sometimes it's day,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and we just decided, Lord, we're going full time in it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And we haven't looked back, you know, as we were
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: talking about with the characters and the music and all
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of that, we just made sure as entrepreneurs that it
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: hadn't been we haven't been one trick ponies. And that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: what I think helped us to survive in this pandemic
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: is because yeah, we're not only just depended on the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: road and you were doing you know, like I said,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we have a clothing line, we have you know, music
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and television and you know, stuff like that to kind
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of help sustain through all of this. You know, it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: really interesting because that's that multiple levels of income that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we talked about. A lot of people don't do that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: They can see that lane of success. And guess what.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Pandemic talks us a lot about pivoty, about looking at
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the mailbox money, what are you doing besides your primary
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: income or the other income? And that's the platform that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you guys are, both of you guys have created and
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it has sustained itself through these these dark times. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and but but but I have to be I to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: say that before we go, is that we're just about
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry. And it's a good thing is that you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: guys have had a lot of success with him. Can
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you can you put in maybe a minute or less
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: than a minute, or talk as long as you want
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: about the greatness of Tyler Perry, his influence in this
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: industry when a lot of people questioned it, and his
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: impact on your lives and the people he entertains today. Well,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that people that people don't see
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: is the giving that he does outside of you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you hear about some of the stuff that he do
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in the public eye, but there's a lot more going
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: on behind the scenes that he's doing helping other people. Uh,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he just choose not to let it be known. Uh.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: He asked me a question. We were on the road
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and he asked me the question, So, what would it
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: take for you to retire? And uh, I gave him
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a number. Was like okay. He said, no, you gotta
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: dream higher, you gotta dream much higher. And I thought
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: about it. I was like, you're right, Okay, you're right.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And it just made even seeing the studio and seeing
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the other stuff that he's done and that he's doing,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it just made you dare to dream bigger, dare to go,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you know, like put in the work. You see him
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: because when I tell you do work, people don't believe
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: how much this he worked. By the time he finishes
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a series, he's exhausted. And I've seen it because he
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: puts his mind, body, everything into doing this. And that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that's stuff that I've seen through the years. And it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just like, Okay, if that's how he's doing it, if
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that's how he's become a Mogol building, I said, Okay,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I see it. So it just made me start, Okay,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm anna build my And I called him the other
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: day and I say, man, I'm a little afraid on something.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I got an opportunity, but I'm afraid what you waiting now?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Just don't do it, man, And I was like, okay,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So I pulled the trigger on it just I called
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: him and just asked him his advice on it, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he said, I can't tell you all the choice worthy
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna do it to stop being scary. That's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: just where is tambla well for me? I mean, to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: see him, you know, we started in nineteen nine and nine.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: To see him from then to now, I'm very if
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I can say, as a sister friend, I'm very proud
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: of him and even how he's grown, even with dealing
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: with the people. I mean, it's like, you know, him
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: finding himself and and like you just like yess the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: years grow. I've just seen him grow and I'm just
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: really really proud of him and everything that he's accomplished.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Look ain't no jealous bone in our body. They're very
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: happy and pushing him on, and I'm praying for him
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: all the time and I'm just really I'm really, really
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: really proud of him. I really am. I just that's
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the biggest I'm just happy for him. I'm so happy
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: for him. Well, I'm happy for David and Tamila Man
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: thirty three years of marriage. I'm gonna make my thirty
• 25:59
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  Speaker 1: but she says she's a game changer. Her name is
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  Speaker 1: Keisha Knight Poem. She's a graduate of an HBCU Spell
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  Speaker 1: one College and she did it with honors with a
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  Speaker 1: BA in Sociology and concentration. And him she's an Emmy
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  Speaker 1: she co founded with her business partner Arian Simone, and
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  Speaker 1: sells culinary products on the Keisha Kitchen website, which is
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that because you know, I've got
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• 30:19
  Speaker 1: about the acting, So we gotta get to watch She's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: really on the show as well. She started to hit
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: comedy series Tyler Perry's House of Pain, which is back
• 30:26
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  Speaker 1: Please working for the first time to money making conversations,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure not the last time, Keisha night. Poeeum, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing, Keisha great? How are you really really? You know,
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  Speaker 1: just going through this whole bio. I want to start
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: with the HBCU experienced because I'm currently working on a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: documentary called Black Excellence, and I definitely we've already lined you.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: If you don't know it, we're definitely gonna line you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: up for an interview because you are Black Excellence, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we saw how HBCUs just moved to the forefront
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of conversation. And it's like like White America just discovered
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: HBC used for the very first time. Now you're graduate.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand one you graduated from hbc
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You with honors, like I said earlier, and your mind
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it with sociology. Tell us about your HBCU experience and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: why is it important? Why is this important? Actually the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: major with sociology with a concentration and film. Um, And
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I loved going to an HBCU. It was
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: definitely one of the best decisions that I've ever made.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And it's it's in my family. I had two brothers
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: who are more House graduates, and then my middle brother
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: he's an Auburn graduate, but we still love him. Um.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But it's it's definitely an experience like no one, like
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: no other. Sound grateful for sure. Well, you know the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: thing about it is that demodable. Uh you know about Hollywood,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You've you've been in Hollywood. Hollywood is dominated by HBC
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You graduates not only just in front of the camera
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: but behind the camera. When I look at the talent
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like you and you major the sociology. My minor is sociology.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: When I graduated from college by age was wasn't uh
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: isn't I should say, you didn't walk away from a
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: degree of mathematics, but it changed my life. You know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: African American studies and sociologists opened my eyes and really
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: let me see that my whole life information has been canceled.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you you realize what you didn't know? How
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: did the sociology impact you? And why did you choose
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that as a degree? For man, Well, one thing I'll say,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: is not just an entertainment that you find a lot
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of HBC you graduates. You know, we'd be remiss not
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to say that our vice president of the United States
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of America. Come on, come on now. So what I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know is, you know, the cremes della creme um in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a multitude of fields are abc um. But you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: getting back to sociology, you know, I chose that because
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I've always even though you know, I went to college
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and I didn't I didn't major in theater per se,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: but I did have a concentration in mass common and communications.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And the reason I chose sociology is because my job
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a filmmaker, my job as a director, producer and actor
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: is to bring these stories to life. And the best
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: way to bring the stories of real people to life
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: is to understand the behind the scenes to the dynamics
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of you know, human condition and how people think and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: how society you know, shapes that image not only of
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: what you see but also yourself. So, um, that's why
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I decided to do sociology. Actually, my thesis my senior
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: year was on images of African American women and black
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: flotation film. So the film piece has always been intertwined
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: in everything that I do. Well. I love the way
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you articulated that because it allows me to transition over
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to your fearless fund, the fearless fun that you found
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it with your partner was also an HBC. You graduate
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: from Family. I know her very well and as a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: family graduate as well, and another and another black woman.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I am a person absolutely when we when we talk
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: about women, and we know that the fastest growing entrepreneurship
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is black females. Uh in the business, why is it
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: important support African American women in the in the small
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: business arena? You know the bottom line? And it's so
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: funny because people are like, why support black women? Um,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, when you're looking
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: at venture capital when you're looking at, you know, investing
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: in businesses, it's it's a business. And if the reality
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is yes, we are the fastest growing and the least funded,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but from a financial standpoint, we are doing some amazing
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: things and are amazing investment if all you're looking at
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: is green and not the color of your skin. Um.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is we wanted to, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: move the needle in a meaningful way when we looked
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: at the landscape and recognizing that a venture capital UM
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: funds and in money is less than a percent point
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: zero zero zero six percent goes to women of color
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: businesses in Twente. That's crazy. So you know, well, we
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: knew we had to do in order to change those dynamics.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: We had to be we had to be players in
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: this game. And it shows that we made the right
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: move because Fearless Fund started out as a five million
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: dollar fund and has grown to a twenty plus million
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: dollar fund um And I'm just really excited. We have
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: some amazing businesses in our pipeline and that we already
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: invested in. And you know, what I know is that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it is not a founding issue, it is a funding issue. Wow.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You know, when I when I look at you talking
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about funding, because I want to break
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: it down a little bit so like a common sense.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's just more like when we see on TV Shark
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Tank when you say funding and you know people come in,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you buy a percentage of their business. Is that how
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you fund it? Absolutely? It's it's you know that every
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: deal is structured very differently. However, it is, you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: an investment um in exchange for an equity state in
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the company. And you know, one of the things that
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: businesses need is to infuse capital in order to you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: scale and grow their business quickly. And a lot of us,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: as black women, don't have access to that capital. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: also a lot of us in our community just have
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: no clue about the space, no clue about you know,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: when you're building a business, you know what is even
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: scaling me? You know, what are the docs that I
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: need to have in place to even be venture venture
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: or even investment um just to to even garner those investments.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We don't have access to that information. So what we've
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: also learned during this process of the Fearless Fund is
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that a lot of it is also just the information
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: sharing and infusing in our community because it just doesn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: exist and and we have to be the ones to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: pay it forward, not just with the financial piece, which
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is very important, but also the education piece. Well, the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: education is really the key. You know, what you know
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and what you're gain from information is how much you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: can make and how you can create your status in society.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: When I look at what you're doing with is fun.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: It Also it starts as an idea, and I really
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: applaud you because you're going into uncharted territories. I can
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: say that because I've been in this business long enough
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to know. And also, when you just said the amount
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of percentages that would already apply to African American women
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: as entrepreneur, opportunities from a from a funding standpoint were
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: ridiculously low. So when you when you broke this idea, Okay,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: well you're sitting around with your friends. Who did you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: go to? Did you put together a business play? And
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: what did you do? Honestly, that's really how it happened.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it was about how do we become you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: a part of the solution. And if you want funding
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: to go to black women, you need to fund them.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And if we fund them, that means we need to
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: be on the other side at the table. And and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that's really it was as simple as that. It was
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: as simple as we know that these businesses are viable,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that they're thriving, that they need capital, and if if
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: everyone else isn't going to do it and believe in them,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that we have to be the ones to do it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy that, you know, when we did, when
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: we started the Fearless Fun we didn't realize we were
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the first. We didn't realize we were the only at
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the time women of color who were specifically investing in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: women of color businesses. We did it because we saw
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a gap in the marketplace and we saw something we
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: recognized we need to be a solution to a problem.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So once we did that, you know, Forbes and all
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of these other different magazines and article and articles, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you know, people are reaching out to us to hear
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: more about our story. And the reality is is that
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it just really fell an alignment from a social justice
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: perspective with everything that was going on in the world,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you know, with um, with everything going on with a pandemic.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: There was also a big social and justice upheaval with
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement and and all of these
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: different things where there were so many major companies that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: were making financial um declarations of how they would support
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and where they would invest. And I'm grateful that they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: did so because then they have to, you know, put
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: their money where their math was and they created a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: space for us to get you know, millions invested from PayPal,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: from Bank of America, from Costco, you know, to all
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of these major companies who now have to back up
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the financial promise that has been made to our community.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Oh standing, this is I was just enjoying this conversation,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: just watching you articulate these values that so many people
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: need to hear. Now that my final question in regards
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to the fears Fund this is money making conversations. Okay,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: how can they reach out to be a participant of
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: feel out of applications? How does that process work? Well,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you can go to Fearless dot fund um. That's our
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: website and all of the information is right there on
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the website. You know, we are investing in precede seed
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and Series A businesses um and all of the requirements
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: are right there on the sun. Congratulations. Well, let's go
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: into my favorite part of the conversations. Food, food, food, food.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I have a show called Richard's Kitchen of an award
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: winning baker, and uh, whenever I have the guest who
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: comes on, who has spices, uh, food samplings, Uh, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: devices for that the culinary world. What got you into
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the culinary world? You know? I love food. I love cooking, um,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and my whole family does. Actually. So I come from
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a long line of from my mom to my dad,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: my brothers, we all love food, we love cooking. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the reality is, specifically I can speak to our home
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: being a black home, the heart of the home is
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: always the kitchen. That's where you gather. That's where you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you talk about your day, where you download, where you
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: have the most lively you know, conversations, debate, whatever you
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: want to call um and it all centers around that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: whole Sunday dinner feel. And that's how it was and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: is in in my family. Um. So with God and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: my love to cook, I was like, you know, this
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: is a lane that I don't again see anyone else
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: who looks like me, and so I decided to to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to do cacious kitchen. Um. It was just simply you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: so many of my friends, like they always joked for
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: like oh, she's like, I'm like the black Mark Steward,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Like even I was the one people are coming over,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you know, cooking up dinners for all my friends. Um.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But I realized that, you know, in this age of
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Uber and all of these if uber Eats or you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: just all of these fast delivery services, people fully cook anymore.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Like all they have to do is order it and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: it shows up at their house. So that kind of
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: the joy of it had been gone. And I know
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of the joy of it is not knowing
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: what to do, like how do I what do I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: put on? What? How does it work? So that's how
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I know made it really really simple. I have a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: poultry and meat and all purpose season, um. And the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: reality is they work good on those categories of things,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: but they also are amazing and vegetables and potatoes and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and you name it so fish. Um. So that's really
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: just how it came about. Well, you know the thing
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: about it, Like I said, potatoes, I love. I can't
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: get enough of baked potatoes. I love vegetables, and so
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: just having that so this multipurpose season and all purpose
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: season for that is a blessing. And also have a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: deal with while all Alaskan sound where they So I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: when you it fish, I leaned forward. That's what I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: gotta use your Now do you now if I go
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: online right now, can I buy it? Or how does
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: it working right now? But you're definitely have our word
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: running a sale. Um. We have our poultry as well
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: as our all purpose on kishus Kitchen dot com. Right
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: now our meat, I'm sorry, on our purpose our poultry
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is sold out. However, we are coming back soon covid. Um.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: We will be fully stopped shortly, and we're also adding
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a new spice called in Spice. It's my first m
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: delve into kind of the sweet world. Everything else is savory.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: But they will be up shortly, will be fully stopped.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, covid has hit the supply chain I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: think for everyone's business. Oh absolutely, Now let's go back
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to sugar and spice now. Because my I'm a award
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: winning baker. So now you you kind of kind of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: glossed over a little bit, you said you getting into
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: that sweet chain to talk about that a little bit more.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Because I do I do baking. Uh, because my my
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: on my show Reshaunge Kitchen always open with a baking
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: element in my baker, she is based in New York.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And then my cook he's based in Alabama. And I'm
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: based in my office kitchen in Atlanta, Georgia. So I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: zoomed to the kitchens in different locations. So if you
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: got some sweetness going on there, I love to put
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it in her kitchen and make it happen there. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Oh well, it really came down
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: to like one of my one of my family's, UM
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: favorite things that I make, UM is my peach cobb
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: one of my candy. There you go. What I did
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was I created a spice that you can use for
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: those things. But coincidentally, as I was creating it, I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: realized and testing on it on different things. I was like, oh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: this taste good on French toes, this taste goed on popcorn. Um.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: There's so many different but you can just have a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: big sweet potato and just sprinkle it on. UM. It's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: just the perfect combination of you know, your favorite your cinnamon,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: your nutmeg, your your your sugar. UM that goes on
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: those sorts of well, you know, nutmeg is my favorite
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: spice that you put you're coming in kitchen. Used to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: me on nutmeg, you and the desserts on with me
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: now I don't want to. I know we talked about
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of the things. I brought you to the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: show to talk about Tyler's Paris House of Pain, the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: eight season, which I'm which I'm excited about. A big
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: fan of Tyler, of course, and a big fan of
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people you have on the show. Talk
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: about your experience and just working with this cast who,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: in some way I can say, their their foods like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: crazy people just out of control over the family. That's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: what family looks like. I genuinely love working with this cast.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I love each and every one of them. We have
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: been doing this for a really long time, and it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a joy. It's a joy to be able to be
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: in people's home every week, of people to be able
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to come to sit with us, to laugh, to enjoy
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: our journey and just have that moment to just kind
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of escape everything that may be going on in the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: world outside and just have some fun with us. So, yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: we're we're an interesting bunch, but it's what family is.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: But you won't let you won't let Van dress you,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know, because Cassie can't dress him, and so you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: have to remain You have to maintain your style. You
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: have to maintain you who you are and when you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: when you do these different levels of comedy, and this
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: is a much more of over the top. Sometimes I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: could say, because yeah it is, it's very own, you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: brand of comedy it is, but it's you. You can't
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: say is you can't watch it? Not lack. I did
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: not say that that. I want that. My girl cast
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to David's who I've been doing for twenty five years.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: She's also some Cassie. I love me some of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: man like when I tell you, um, it's it's awesome.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Like we worked really hard. We do. We have a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: schedule like no other when we're shooting. However, what makes
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it amazing is the people who we spend it with,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: not just the cast, but the crew. You know, a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: lot of us from some of the cameramen have been
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the people that we worked with for the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: past decade, you know before when we were doing House
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of Pain, before we took a little bit of a hiatus.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm grateful of that I get to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: go to work and do what I do and do
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it with a group of people that I love. Well,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they're the importance part is that you know, also say Cassie,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: she's also an HBCU graduates, well, Cassie Davis as well,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So you surrounded with all that HBC you love. But
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the show comes on every Tuesday on b ET and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the popularity of working the show. I'm assuming you take
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: this during the COVID UH restrictions and the COVID shutdown.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Was it taped doing that process? It was tape more
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: recently in one Well, we I actually fulfilmed to a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: couple of projects during COVID lockdown. One was a Lifetime
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: movie in Vancouver, and then we also did do the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: House of Pain, and with that it was you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: interesting because they were quarantined and um, you know, we
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: had to do what was necessary to be safe and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and we were able to do that. Well, let me
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: just tell you if you know what think like we
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: said earlier, she said, Sean, whatever you're saying. By Tyler
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Perri's House of Pay, We're funny. It's the number one
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: comedy series on cable for African American's age eighteen four four.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Basically all black people, all black people laughing at this
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: show and loving this show. But I would be remiss
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: if I don't talk about your your foundation. I wanted
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to get that in before we Camp Kissi Foundation tell
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: us about that. Why is important that you are rallying
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: behind that and the purpose? Well, the Camp Kissi Foundation
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: is truly my baby. Um. I'm sorry if you hear,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: because you know, doing these things at home can be interesting.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Don has decided to like do a whole I don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: know what's happening in the house, but um, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the Camp Kissie Foundation is absolutely my heart. I started
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it over a decade ago, and it's all about empowerment
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and self esteem for you. We do UM programming throughout
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the year, but our signature program is UM. It's a
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: free camp for girls eleven to sixteen in the same time.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I just I just I love it. And what I
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: know is you don't know the dream and if you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: don't know what exists. So a big portion of it
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is a very holistic approach to empowerment and self esteem,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and a lot of it is also about exposure. And
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm really excited this year we're not going
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: to do in person last year. We had to do
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it virtually this year as well, But next year for
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: twenty two, we will be back in person and we
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: can't wait. Well, it's important that you say that when
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I one of the main reasons I wanted to bring
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you on the shows to tell your story. Your story
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: is an amazing story from the HBCU grad with honors
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur, being a I want to say, a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: mentor or leader in the fearless fun and also with
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: your foundation. In closing, any advice you want to give
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: to any of my entrepreneurs, any tips of success that
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you'd like to share with him. Um, you know, I
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: feel like, follow your passion and the money will come.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: So many people chase the money, and you have to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: be dedicated and passionate about what you do and recognize
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that we all have different purposes and everyone's not going
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: to see you know your divine um purpose in this lifetime.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: But you gotta remember it wasn't a conference call. It
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: was given to you. So just to keep pushing it's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's hard out there because so many people are like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to work to anybody else, I want
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: to work myself. Understand, when you're an entrepreneur, you definitely
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: work harder than a nine. But the differences you're sewing
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: into your dreams, um and I say, just go for it.
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  Speaker 1: next guest is a long time frame. My next guest
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: is Cassie Davis Patton Casses starring on Tyler Parris Haus
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of Pain playing Ella Pain, which returns on BT for
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: his eight season. Tyler Perris Huss of Pain is the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: number one comedy series for African America's eighteen to forty
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: nine five fifty four in the calendar year twenty and
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: you can say the calendar year twenty one too, because
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: it's already been picked up for another season. Cassie Davis
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Pattern has worked extensively over the years with Tyler Peril
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: on his stage plays, TV shows, and movie he She
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: made a lot of money with media. Just Mdea is
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: really her middle name. She also attended spellm In College
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, and major in music. Her big acting
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: break was her role in Spike Le's film School Days,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Please Welcome. When I knew it back in the day,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: she was just Caffe David. Now you know she had
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: a man naturally. Now she Cassie Davis Patton. So from
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Tyler Parris Haussa Pain, my good friend, Cassie Davis Patton.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: How you doing better? Introduced me do a good jobs
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: doing a good job for sure. No, you did what
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: you normally do. Thank you you think you know you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you still got it. I appreciate it. You know the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: amazing thing that you wanted one, Uh you will we
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: started calling now you said on one. It took me
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: all of one baby one and one. Attorney Anderson. Come on, y'all,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you guys were the You guys were a mad team
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of brilliant black men that knew what y'all wanted to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: do and did it. Steve you won home, Attorney Anderson, Um,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: James Boomerang. You guys were an awesome team, and y'all
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: taught me so much. I was. I was at the
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: house and um, you guys were in the field and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you are working. Your ethics were good, and um you
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: were suited all the time. Uh. You guys would come
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: back to the house and you guys would discuss strategies
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: and I would eavesdrop, and UM I learned and took notes,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: and UM I do owe a lot of my success
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: to the wisdom that you guys and pardoned in me
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: when you didn't even know I was listening, and you
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: didn't even know I care. But UM, I just appreciated
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: everything that you guys came back home and discussed and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: made happen. You know, it wasn't just like you were
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: blowing smoke signals. You there was actually fire, and there
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: was a product that you guys um put together and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that was me and the boys, and that was it
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was just so much that you are all dead and
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys were the Kings of comedy before
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the Kings of Comedy came out. Absolutely absolutely no Cassim
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: talking to Cassie David. She's star. Tyler Perris hals the pain.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: That's one of the things. She's a star because she
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: really is a breeding talent. And then she just talked
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: about our history. The person she brought up one and
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: one that's one hole, just a little little walk down
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: history lane. He was Steve's manager before I became his manager,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and he was all our best friend and we lost
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: him to Soakodosius, the same illness that took Bernie Mack.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Which is ironic that two people in Steve Harvey's life
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that he was close to the lost to the same
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: heart element and uh and and that that allowed me
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to come into his life. And Ricky Anderson was the attorney.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He's still out the attorney in our lives today after
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: all these years of African American attorney. That's what she
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: was talking about black men who was breaking ground with
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: breaking ground because the rules were different back in nineteen
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: two five. That's exactly right and exactly the right. And
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: there was there was a hustle that you guys came
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: out with and was just like everybody get somebody. That's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that's what we saying in high school. Everybody gets somebody,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: don't let them shoot. And that is what you all did.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You all Steve was in charge of this, one was
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: in charge of this. Attorney Amerson handled this, and Rashan
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: you really uh gathernized a whole lot of things you
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: were caring to to be briefcase, you know, thank you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: for that compliment, Cassie. But then the thing about our relationship,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you know, is that I always saw a talented person
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and but you were not doing anything with your career
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: at the time when I came into your life. But
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I was why, uh you know what, I got my
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: feelings hurt. I was up for a part on Hanging
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: with Mr Cooper, and I thought I was gonna be
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: on that show, and I was doing storyboards, I was,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: you know, going into meetings with the executives and I
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I learned that I did not get the part when
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the show aired, and it hurt my feelings so bad.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I just didn't understand the rejection of the business. I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: thought they really like what they saw and I thought
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: they meant what they said, and um, it became just
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: one lie after another. That's one of Chip Fields songs
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and uh and uh. So I just thought that it
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: would probably be best for me to pull out and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: not pursue this career because you know, I could have
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: had anger issues and I did not want to, you know,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: take my anger out on someone. So I just stopped
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and started working with young people at Wendy School. Um
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and um, and I just I just fell in love
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: with you know, what the art really could do for
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the lives of those young people. And then Mr Perry,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: oh my god, he saw me doing a favor for
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: someone and asked me to come and be a part
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: of his empire. And I was like, I don't have
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: no time but that y'all say one thing, y'all do
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: another thing, So just leave me alone because I really
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: don't want to have to catch the case. Don't lie.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, do it. And if you're not,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: then thought and I must say that man has kept
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: his word. You guys kept your word. But I just
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: got my feelings hurt. I was so bruised by being rejected,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and I just didn't understand the rejection part of the pursuit.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And you know, you know, just important people here that
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Cassie Davis, because Cassie David's Pattons. I'm gonna talk a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: different periods. That was Cassie David's back then. And because
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Hollywood is about rejection and a lot of people aren't
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: ready for that. They think that they can ride with
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the best look. They want some awards locally, and they
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: get there and they'll walk you through that door and
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: they'll say come back five fifteen times and then say
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: so someone on your cage didn't say sorry. No, they
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: didn't even say sorry. I didn't even I was at
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: home waiting. I had already gone and picked out a
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: home in um To Luca Lake in Los Angeles. I
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, yes, when they sent me my money,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I can buy this house. I was with a realtor
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: and I was at home one evening and I saw
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the advertisement come up, or the advertisement and you guys
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: called it back, but then it was an advertisement and
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it was um that brilliant actress Nel Carter and I
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: couldn't be mad. You know, if you're gonna lose, why
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: not lose to her? But you know, but I it
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: just hurt me so bad. Um, I just said, I
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: think I'd better just sit out and just wait. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: that's what I did. And then what was proven is
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: if it's meant to be for you, then it's going
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: to be. And it has been a great ride for me,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: even the hurt. Um. You know, I can really appreciate
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: all of this choy because I do understand what the
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: hurt can feel like. So we know, it's really really
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: funny you say that. It really funny you say that
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: casting because you know, Steve Harvey has always say because
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were that talented whenever, you know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I just knew you were very nice. She was always punctual,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: he was always a beat and and then teach it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You know she's talented, right, I go, what do you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: mean you said? That girl right there can sing? I go, Cassie, Cassie, Gazie.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: She never showed me that you were just you had
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: just like just just just connected. You didn't even all
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the talent that God gave you. You just like shoved
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: it in a box. And say I'm done. How did
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: you get out of that box? How did you get
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: out of that moment to say you know something, it's
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: time Before Tyler Perry said hey, I want to bring
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: you on board. What brought you out of that cocoon? God?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: You know, when I realized that the talent was not mine,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: too bary, and was not mine to shove in a box,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: and that um, it was his to showcase to his people,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and it was something that he would use me to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: do and free some people and bring some joy to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: some people and and help some people. So the many
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: stories that I now hear um about how the messages
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: from House of Pain has helped somebody's family or somebody's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: grandmother or you know. I have a friend in Holly
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Springs right now. She watches all of Tyler Parris, Tyler
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Parris movies and then the sitcoms, and um, it just
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: blesses her that I'm a part of it. But it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: was it was God that that made me do it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: But the vehicle really, really really was Chip Fields. And
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: when I met Chip Fields and she wanted me to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: be in a play, it was like, are you gonna
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: do what you say you can do? And she did.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: And after that I just began to trust her. And
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: then I came into Wonder Love and I met you guys,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: said um, and I just said, you know what, there
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: are some good people here. So rejection is a part
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: of it. But I just did not know. I didn't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: like being rejected. Who the who likes caring jeck and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: so I did not understand it. And I, uh, you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: in my innocence, I made plans for some money that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I did not have. So that has taught me a lesson.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Did you can't spend what you don't have and um,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: and there's always research that we need to do, and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I did not do by research. I was just taking
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: people at their faith value and um, and I still
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: do it, but I I have to listen for those
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: keywords that that I could have known that I was
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: not being chosen for that part. But I just did
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: not understand the lingo and I did not do my research.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: No problem. I did not have wise counsel, but we
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: did not. I didn't have any counsel really at all.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: And so um, but now I have wise counsel. That's right,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: that's right. Here here's the beauty because because cashier just
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: throw our names, like she wondered with Karen Robinson, like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: when you Karen Robinson was was the principal on Steve
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Harvey sitcom, and of course she's wanted to do the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Game and many other great series. She feels is Kim
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Field's mother. One of the emotions explaining absolutely, all these
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: landmarks now, don't worry, I got your back. That's the legends,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: all of them. Absolutely, Steve, are you kidding? I mean
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: you guys went the hair. I saw you. I saw
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: you guys stumbling. I saw you. Not know anything with
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Steve care He'll tell you. He came to house and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: we were just I was like, he got a job.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: He can't even read, tell you. I was just like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: what I was like, and he was was like he
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: was reading his script. He was saying, Steve sits down.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I was doing at saying, he's reading the direction this listen.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Now he's reading directions and everything and giving directions, reading
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: directions and giving directions, telling people what you do, directions.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: He is a direction. He is one to follow. You know.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: When I when I look at the beauty of you,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and I want to go back to your
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Spellman days because I really always when I read a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: graduate of Spellman, I gotta HBCU in general, I've got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to be able to hear that. Let that story be
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: from announced on my show, talk about Spellman while you went,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: and the experience and the greatness you've achieved by being
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a graduate of Spellman. Oh my god, Rashaan. I heard
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: about Spellman College in nineteen eighty three, and there was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: a young lady, Patricia Johnson, who was the recruiter for
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Spellman College and her dad and lives right below by
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: my dad's house in Holly Springs, Mississippi, Reverend Graham, And
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: he called his daughter. He said, Hey, look, there's a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: girl over here that I want to come to Spellman
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: her dad and I'm not gonna have a whole lot
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: of money, so just find her some money and uh
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: to come over here. And I need you all to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: recruit her and talk to her daddy. And she did.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: She came, and um, she spoke with my dad and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: assured him that I would matriculate and I would be okay,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and I would be safe and and and it happened,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: and my dad took me down to Spelling College in
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, and I graduated in two thousand nine.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I was a senior for twenty one years. I got
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: down to Atlanta and lost my mind. I got into
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: the city with all these lights and got over there
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: in that a youth center on Fairs ste and the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: party became real. And then I fell in love with
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the theater company Your Monday Productions in the city, and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I began to work with them. Now I didn't really
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: care about being a music major anymore. I didn't really
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: care about singing um classical music. I thought I was
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: going to be a gospel singer. And when I got
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: to Spellman, they wanted us to do um, a classical
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: format and the method for really learning and studying music.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: And when I got there, I was just like, what,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sing an Aria. I want to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: sing to God be the Glory and my tribute, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: my dad come home. They want to hear English. I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to be singing old Italian and so just country.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know, and uh, and so I got mad.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I had one hour to graduate and I left. Chip
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Fields came through and she was going out in a
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: play with Zinky Winings and and um, and so I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: got in that play in nine and and I left
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Atlanta with that one hour to graduate. I called my
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: dad and them three days before graduation to tell them
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: that I would not be graduating, and the um they
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: were just undone. My dad was like, you're living in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: a bubble. Now you're going out to chase a dream
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and you never do you know, actors come a dime
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a dozen. You're never gonna be on a show. Nobody
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: knows you'll get out of here. You're not gonna And
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: the more he said you're not, the more I said,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna prove it to you.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I know that this is what I need to do.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I want to do it. They won't let me sing
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: for God, and you know our model and Spelman was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: our whole school for Christ. I was like our whole
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: school for Christ. And you won't let me do a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: gospel song on my senior recitalment. We'll forget it. I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: don't want to degree, and I was. I got out
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: to California. I went out to to visit Hip for
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: two weeks. I left fourteen years later. And in that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: fourteen years, you know, I summing up to be too
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: years to seven years you know, like so it was
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: the first seven years I was learning one thing, the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: second seven years I learned another thing. And um and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: and it was it was completion twice for me. UM.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Seven is usually the number of completion. So I had
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: to run my course twice to get out of l A.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: And when I left, I came back to Atlanta doing
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: House of Pain with Mr Perry and UM, and I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: went back to Spellman College and I marched and walked. Uh.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I got that degree in two thousand and eight December,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and I marched in two thousand nine. And I am
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: a proud Spellman moment and um. And it was not
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: just what I learned on the inside of the gates
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: that made me the woman that I am today, But
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: it was what they taught me on the inside that
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I applied on the outside of the gates, UM that
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: made me an even more proud moment and um. And
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: it was those fourteen years of labor out there in
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: l A that prepares me for today. You know. When UM,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't even like doing interviews because it
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: just seems like, UM, it's so much you want me
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to cram into twenty minutes. When um, you know, we're
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: talking about ninety one two twenty one? Are you kidding me?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: In the pandemic. It's so many jewels and elements to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: get life and to describing it and to telling you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: how important everything is. Money is important, faith is important, Uh,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Rejection is important, health is important, Wisdom is important. Uh,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: and wisdom is the principal thing. Um, so at all
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I get. You need to get wisdom, you need to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: get an understanding, but wisdom is the principal thing. You
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: know it just um, you know when you when you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: get mature, and you know, I left spellming college, I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: hadn't walked on I didn't walked degree. Are you kidding me?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: All that money, my folks sacrifice, I had to do
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: it and I did and and it just feels so
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: good to accomplish. You know, when I was in l
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  Speaker 1: of higher education, and I just believed in doing better
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  Speaker 1: and doing more and being exposed to more. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: now making away for my siblings or my my my
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  Speaker 1: torch if you will, well, you look fantastic. And Cassie Davis,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking to Cassie Davis Patton, thank you. Co star
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Perris. House of Pain is the number one show
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  Speaker 1: on African American homes in is gonna come back this month.
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  Speaker 1: It's the eighth season of the show. Let's talk about fame.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about fame and you, Cassie, because I know
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  Speaker 1: you humble, you know, you know, you know not you
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  Speaker 1: not want to want to get recognized in the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: they're still doing that. That was a secret. And you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: guys that maybe all my money. Okay, I called Steve
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  Speaker 1: are one of the richest man's and the men in
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  Speaker 1: the world. We're gonna pay you all your money. Now,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: would you being famous Tyler Paris House of Fame because
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  Speaker 1: you're famous in Medea movies? How did you deal with fame?
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  Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? Well? You know what,
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  Speaker 1: um Rishan, I really don't know. I really don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I deal with it. You know, I just like people,
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  Speaker 1: and so when I meet them out anywhere and they
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: are talking about Ella, or they're talking about Bam, or
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: they're talking about Tyler Pear, I welcome what they have
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  Speaker 1: to say. You know. I feel like what they have
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  Speaker 1: seen um is in their house. It becomes very personable
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  Speaker 1: to them and the messages I think hit home with
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: their lives. And so some people are very nice when
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: they approach you, and then there are some people who
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: who tripped and then you know you have to say, hey, wait, pen,
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  Speaker 1: that's a character, don't slate. Now, I don't don't don't
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't you know I'm not always on TV.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not always active that always script. Don't get slapped.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but it is so wonderful to experience
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: these things because these people are so wonderful right now,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: you know, when when you meant so, I don't know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm handling it properly. We know
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: there's two types of fame for you because you you know,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: you you blew up in his plays, Tyler Perrish plays
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and then the TV show and then the movies which
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: became international, which also put you on the big screen,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the Medea movies. That what you feel is mostly impactful
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: in your career, the plays, the MDEA movies, or the
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  Speaker 1: TV show impactful. I would probably have to say, um,
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  Speaker 1: the movies, Um well, I probably would have to say
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  Speaker 1: the TV show. Um. The thing I enjoy the most.
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  Speaker 1: be their lives in a in a building with Shawn
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  Speaker 1: and I. I always describe it like I'm in a
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  Speaker 1: building with ten thousand people and they don't know each other,
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  Speaker 1: but they're all laughing at the same time, they're all
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: crying at the same time. And then I'm sitting next
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  Speaker 1: to a mastermind, Tyler Perry as my dear, and he
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  Speaker 1: just orchestrates direct. If there's something on the stage that
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  Speaker 1: goes wrong, he can handle it. If there is a
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• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: a heckler in the crowd, he can handle that. You know.
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  Speaker 1: just to be sitting on stage with a mastermind, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just really ah been the treat of my whole career.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: So I love all the mediums. I love plays, I
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  Speaker 1: best thing for me is his work ethics and um.
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• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: you have your script, uh ten days before or five
• 1:14:28
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• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: it says, hey, look, I thought about something that I'd
• 1:14:34
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• 1:14:37
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• 1:14:42
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  Speaker 1: a wrap up here, because I want to make sure
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I've been hyping it, been promoting the eighth season. What
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  Speaker 1: can we respect on this season of Tyler Perry's House
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: of Pain is on every Tuesday, n PM Central. He's
• 1:14:55
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• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: you should expect more of the same, and then you
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  Speaker 1: can expect um uh. I just think that because House
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of Pain depicts life and art depicts life, it's going
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  Speaker 1: broken relationships, is gonna speak to those young people who
• 1:15:24
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  Speaker 1: who are feelings, you know. So it's going to it's
• 1:15:34
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we have and that generation to generation
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  Speaker 1: from two to two hundred are watching the show, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the age ranges, and we actually have families sitting down
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: watching the show together. So I think you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be amazed with uh um some of the storylines and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: the message is that we will bring to the forefront
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  Speaker 1: on this run on this season and again it ties in,
• 1:16:07
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Well, my dear, thank you for
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• 1:16:26
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  Speaker 1: next guest is truly an industry decision makers. Dr Steve Perry.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Parry is a national leader in the education revolution,
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  Speaker 1: a change agent who is tireless in his fight for
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  Speaker 1: providing equal and competitive opportunities for children who otherwise will
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  Speaker 1: not have a voice. His mission is to provide high
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  Speaker 1: In twenty Dr Steve Perry opened his fifth school campus
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  Speaker 1: in Bronx, New York, and all students are admitted to
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  Speaker 1: the schools by random lottery in order to ensure equal
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  Speaker 1: Dr Steve Perry's mission is to provide historically disadvantaged students
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing, sir? Having in some of my life? Brother,
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  Speaker 1: really genuinely, I am, and forgive me. I am in Harlem,
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  Speaker 1: so you will hear the sounds of the city. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: have no control over that. Well, the sounds of City,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: if you're New York. I always tell people like I think,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: basically seven million people living New York proper in Manhattan proper,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: and on a given day, seven to eight million will
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: enter New York. So you can look at from Twitter
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: to fifteen million people on that island. So when you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: say noise in New York, I say, okay, right, because
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I have to say that everybody is not as familiar
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: with our home as as you are. So uh, you
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: you know from your time here at the Apollo that
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: this is allowed little place we know it. Start Steve Erry,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting that you know New York. I moved
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: to New York like an eight first time I went
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: up to New York and lived there, and it was
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: in transition. Remember I couldn't catch a cab if I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: was in Lower New York to come to If you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: say you're going across the hundred fifth three, they wasn't
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: gonna you might weren't even getting the cab because they
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna take you. And then we went through this,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: you know, the Central Park Jarger, you know situation where
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: the five being were convicted, and and then we then
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: we transitioned into they'll pick you up and take you
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  Speaker 1: up there, and then you look at New York a
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  Speaker 1: hundred street and white people that two am are walking
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: their dogs. And so this morning trip is tripping me out,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: like it's just really tripping me out. And so would
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  Speaker 1: you in there? Now? What is why is it important?
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  Speaker 1: Because we're talking at a different hall of now, not
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  Speaker 1: the hall of my new not the hall of you
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  Speaker 1: reading the newspaper. What hall of are you working in? Now?
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  Speaker 1: What's the environment of hall that you're tied to? Now?
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  Speaker 1: That's that's interesting, Um, I am Our school is currently
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: located on a hundred and fourth and fifth Avenue, which,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: if you know anything about New York, is right across
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: the street from Central Park. I mean I can see
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the botanical garden right outside my window. And um, excuse me.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: We are on what's called a museum mile, which is
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: just what you just aptly named. Behind me is the
• 1:23:41
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• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: way down to the Museum of Natural History. So this
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: area is a gorgeous area as areas go. Similarly, um,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you are seeing a conversion of the Brownstones purchased by
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  Speaker 1: only we can't just be middle class. You got the
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  Speaker 1: upper middle class to wealthy folks, many of whom appear
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• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: come to be immersed in what they believed to be
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: the culture of Harlem. But there's still that group right
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: over there in the Union housing projects, which is on
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the other block. So again, if you're not from New York,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm explaining to you would seem unconscionable that so
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: much happens in in so few square feet. But in
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: the two yards that this block is, on one side
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: you have some of the wealthiest real estate arguably in America,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: and then just two yards on the other side, you
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: have a couple of housing projects, um. And then then
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: on the other side you have a new high rise.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: So butchers between these, uh are stuck between these two
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: pretty expensive pieces of property, you have housing projects and
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: rent controlled places. One of my colleagues lives in approximately
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  Speaker 1: I want to be polite et seven hundred square feet.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like five D seven hundred square feet efficiency
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  Speaker 1: and she pays twenty seven that's my right, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not scaring me with those numbers. See that
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  Speaker 1: was in the five hundred square feet. I was happy.
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  Speaker 1: I was happy. But but but so that's what it
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  Speaker 1: looks like. But what I worked with, I work with
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: some of the poor kids in America. I worked with some, um,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: some of the most talented, beautiful, awesome, poor black black children,
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  Speaker 1: UM who wow around them? There is UH call it renaissance.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you call it a renaissance. We're
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  Speaker 1: not going backwards, um, but it is a a resetting
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  Speaker 1: on I don't know if you remember what the path
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: mark used to be that place. Yeah, so the path
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: mark used which is just which is just a block
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  Speaker 1: away from, um, the train station. That building was just
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: torn down. They're about to build They're about to excuse me,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: a very very very nice uh set up there. However,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: on the ground level, it's like the Land of the Dead.
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  Speaker 1: Bunch of zombie people walking up and down looked, it's rough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're homeless, I don't. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: know what they do at night, so I can only
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: see what they do during the day. Um. But people
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  Speaker 1: who most would consider or believed to be home lists
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  Speaker 1: are walking UM and stackering U just in the shadow
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  Speaker 1: of this. Well, you know, the thing about it is
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that to make people understand the relatability of what he's saying,
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  Speaker 1: is that because I lived in New York three times
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: and we always threw me off, was that you can't
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: walk from wealthy to poverty in a block. I mean
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you can walk on the same block. Is the same
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: way whereas in if you're a traditional city, you drive
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  Speaker 1: to it, you drive, you drive to a housing project
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: in New York City, you walk past it. You know,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: you you walk past the dorman who secured building, and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: you go to the next block, and you're like, Okay,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: where's my security. Where's my doorman to get me through
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: this block? So there's a right there, that building right
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: there as a security. I think that the condos in
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: there and they have to start in the load ones
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: millions like right there and right there, separated by two
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: hundreds uh yards, is public housing that just separates. Just
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. And so it is a tale
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: of two nations that we're in. And what's interesting to
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: me is how the midst obvious, well, how the systemic
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  Speaker 1: barriers of racism are so effective as to allow for
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: the the coexistence of two vastly different groups of people,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: and they they never seem to understand one another. And
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: my children don't often understand. I have explained it, like,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: do you know who we are? I mean they right here?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know people call this No, it's the museum
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: mile like this is one of the wealthy, Like this
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: stretch right here, it's like, well, like it doesn't again,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: I'll put it this way, so on the other side
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: of the part, just for people to understand. Just over
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: there it's Trump Tower. So I'm here, I can almost
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: see it over there. So we're talking about the kind
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: of wealth that's jaw dropping right there, and the kind
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: of poverty that's equally jaw dropping. And here we are
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: in the middle, attempting to carve a new door. Because,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: as you know, Carter G. Woodson said that if you
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: send a man to the back door now and there
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: is no back door, when he gets there, he will
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: cut one for himself. M hm. So we're trying to
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: teach our children to go through a different door, really,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: the children and the parents simultaneously. We've been doing this
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Do you ever get what frustrates
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: you about the process of what you're trying to do.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: What really I raced me uh and really tricked me out,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: is that how we'd be done by now. Honestly, I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: thought when I thought when charter school started to open
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: and we were able to show that you could take
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the same black children, same Latin children in the same address,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: from the same families and put them in a different school,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: and those children would be able to read on grade level,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: right on grade level, do math on grade level, go
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: to college at the rate of anywhere from ninety upon graduation. Again,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I told you you're gonna hear us um it is.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: I figured this country, and for what it's worth, the
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: president who got us started down that road was President
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Bush too, but the person who really kicked it into
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: um full gear was President Obama. So I figured, as
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: soon as we show that you can take children from
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: wherever they come and help them ascend to the highest highs,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: that I mean both sides of our I figured, maybe
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: the Republicans a trip because they're not as committed to
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: black and brown people as the Democrats say they are,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: so maybe there'll be some rub there. But other than that,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: we should be cool because their freedom loving people, and
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: they want the freedom of school tchice, That's what I thought.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I could not be more wrong. The Democrats have been
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the most ardent opponents of the very escape route that
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: we need to use to get out of the poverty
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: that in many cases there policies have plunged us into. Sadly,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: the Republicans are so uh in apt around issues of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: class and race that anything that comes out of their
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: mouths people think is racist, even when they're making headway
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: and policies of school choice. So what frustrates me is
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: that I find myself with these lion politicians all the time.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, they get on my nerves. I'm not even
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: replying to you. Just some of them are people who
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I know, like friends, people in my house. It is,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: it is a peculiar paradox that I find myself And
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: because I you know, I just didn't walk through and
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: one of our schools here in Harlem and had to,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: you know, tighten up some kids by not being a
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: uniform the way that's supposed to be doing that very
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: micro thing. But then from there I have to have
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: a macro conversation with the legislator about something that's just
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: it's just foolish, man, I don't even it sickens me
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: that we're still having these conversations. It is. And I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: might add where I really, really, really really really was
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: wrong was I felt like I, as a black man
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: committed to the black community, came to members of the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: black community and I'm being completely transparent because you're my guy.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I felt like I would be able to get from
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: black legislators, um, black wealthy people the kind of support
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: that our children need. And let me be clear, They're
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: not putting any money in my pocket. They're not increasing
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: my salary. They don't make my house bigger at all. Actually,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: when they give money to us, when they create legislation
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: that creates more opportunities for schools like ours to open,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: my salary does not move, you know, despite my wife's
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: interest and son's interest in my salary moving. In fact,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: one of my sons, one of my sons, goes to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: school with a person who runs a large charter network
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: and she makes a considerable amount more than I do.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: And he said, he said, see the all time, do
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: you ever get frustrated by that? I don't. I didn't
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: get into this that I got in because I feel
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: so blessed to be a part of our children's lives.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that God wakes me up all the
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: people othershan, I'm telling you, I can't and you know this,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: And this is what we talked about. When there's no
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: cameras on, nobody watching, there's no bs anything, I can't
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: believe that God wake this to uh get part of
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: like I just like in this way, it's just the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: most awesome experience. So, I mean, do I enjoy earning
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: a living? I do, But I want to make it clear.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: And and and if I made sixty billion dollars doing
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: it because I helped kids, would that be a bad thing?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, be people who do great things. But that's
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: not what happens. What actually happens is when they give money,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: when they create legislator shin, it presents opportunities for us
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: to be able to serve more children. What that means
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: is I can hire more people who can create more
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: classrooms so that we can have more children. That's it,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Dr Berry. When we talk about the five schools that
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: you have, this is from my audience who's listening and
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: who also are watching, And basically, what is the attendance
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: size of the school, what is the age reign of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: the curriculum schedule, the new one that you have and
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: the Bronx, how does that work because we know about
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: the lottery system to get in? Are they all located
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: in the New York Connecticut area where they located these
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: five schools they are? Thank you so much for asking
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: uh thoughtful question like that because most people don't. UM,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: so we have we have two sites in Connecticut and Bridgeport.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: What we actually three? So if one in Hartford, I'm
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: not affiliated with that one anymore. I'll explain to you
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: at a moment um. That was the first school. And
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: then um, we have two sites in Bridgeport, Connecticut and
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: they're about four hundred apiece. And then we have uh
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: in Harlem, we have one that will be about eight hundred,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: and then we have one in the Bronx that will
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: be about eight hundred. So the one we did in
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Hartford is what was around eight hundreds. So and then
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: some of them are broken into multiple sites. So that's
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: where the numbers are roughly three thousand. Look and so
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: when you when you reach them, there's as three thousand
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: students that because you you can the hard students, poverty
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: driven students, So three thousand students that you're given a
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: different way of life. They wouldn't have that different way
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: of life academically if you didn't have a vision or
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: feel blessed to get up. It's not about the money,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: It's about providing an opportunity and escape to a better life.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Basically what you're doing with these students and their families too,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: because the kids ben afair, they they do the things
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to, go to college, hopefully can pay it
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: forward and go pick their family and move them forward
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: as well. That's your dream, politicians. People who think they
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: are undertones of greed tied to this, what do you
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: what do you do want out of it? Those those
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: frustrating lanes, But then you see the results, the students
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: who have left your school. How does that make you feel? Again?
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: So this weekend, great question great questions. So this weekend
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: I went to two graduation parties, college graduation parties and
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: they have have those parents one one graduation I went
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: to UM, then way graduated from Cton Hall and UM
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: to have the parents who are no longer together actually
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: recently divorced, to have them each separately come over to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: me and thank me. I don't feel worthy. Um, it's
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: what I honestly feel when Dad came over to me
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: and he said, you know, she couldn't have done around
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: you as a brother. Come on, I'm just a spectator.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you know school, and I appreciate it,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna thank you for the flowers
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: that you're giving me while I'm still up here, and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna appreciate that. But I current, come on, this
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: is this. No person can do this. This is not
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: what people can do. This is God so um. But
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: what you know, Dr Perry, Dr Perry, I can stop
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: you right there because I know it a long time,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: because you are and I've always criticized you for your humbleness.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: You know, you know you are a vessel. It is
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: God's work. But you get up. I know your wife,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I know your boys. They sacrifice. Okay, this at a time,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: you're going the road to speak to kids that you
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: don't know. I've seen it. You go to camps hot
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: in the summer talking to boys you don't know, trying
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: to just give them a nugget of information that would
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: change their life. And so I got the humble this.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: But they are right, You're that blessing. You're that, You're
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: you're the kid. You're the kid who grew up become
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: a man and said, no, somebody want to make a difference,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: and that difference has to be in other people. So
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: what triggered that? That's what I need to know? What
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: triggered that? I appreciate that I, as you know, I'm
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm wickedly competitive. I understand somebody has to lose. It
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: just never has to be made. So um So for me,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: I want to be the when this thing is done,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: when when the box is mine and the dirt drums
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: on top of it. I want to be the best
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: who's ever done. I don't, I don't. I want to.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: That will be evidence that I took what a little
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: bit that I came into the game with and and
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: I flipped it. You know, I look at cats who
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: who are comparably positioned in their industry, who do things
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: differently different than I do, who earned you know, who
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: do something different than I do, Because you mean, I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: see where they are and I think I want to
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: be even them. Yes, but but the beating part is
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: less about ego and more about service, meaning that when
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: I win, we win. But one of the things I've
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: always appreciated about you, Jean, is that you are committed
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: to extending blessings to other people, to give and give
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: opportunities to other cats and identify talented individuals and help
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: them build whatever it is that they have and and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: have that turn into something meaningful. Um. When when you're
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: that kind of person, you build a team of people
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: who will always be there for you. And so to
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: your point, um, my farewell wells comments to the first
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: school that we were at, the school that we founded, Um,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: when I left, what I said, my sons attend my schools,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: and UM, what I said was thank you to them
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: for all of the nights that you went to bed
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't there, all the morning that you woke
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: up and I wasn't there. And that my hope and
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: prayer is that one day, when you feel like I'm
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: the worst human being on earth, you would come across
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: somebody who will take the time to say thank you
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: for the time that you contributed to my life by
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: allowing your father to help us to build the schools
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: in our community. I mean, one of the things that
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: tripped me, Iris Shaun, is I don't understand how people
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: do when I don't how people do what I do
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: could ever be seen as controversial. I don't know what's
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: controversy sure about black people open up schools in the
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: black community, except for the fact that it's black people
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: open up schools in the black community, which means sensibly
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: self determination. It means that whenout waiting for him, I'm
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: not asking, but I'm not asking anybody permission. I don't
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: ask who we're writing curriculum. IDEM say, do you think
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: it's gonna offend people? As anybody not? That's not my problem,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't defend me, even you. They don't go send your
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: child in my school. Well, you know. The beauty of
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: you Dr Steve Perry one of the leading voices, uh,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: you know when he says that by his sons. I
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: remember it was a run dad. Every year I watched
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: them grow, you know, I watched them grow everything pop
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: up annual sophomore year, you know, you know, and go
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: to the camps and Steve Harvey and then go to
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: the Dreams Academy. So at least twice a year watching
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: brow up, you know. And the beauty of that is
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: that respect. They understood their dad, They understood the small
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: they knew the value of effort. They knew the value
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: of making a difference. And when I look at you
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: and I look at the progress that you made as
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: a person I've honestly met, is that you know, we
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: we the television route has been made available to you.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: You just did the Fix My Life episode series, uh
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: last season? Where is that in your life? Is is
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: being on television a new priority or what's going on
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: in your life from a television perspective? Dr Stevens, You know,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: television for me is a vehicle to tell the story
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: of the work that we're doing in the community, as
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and what your viewers are getting access to
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: is the kind of conversation that you and I have
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: had two or three hundred times. It's the same conversation
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: where you know, you've seen people present me with TV
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: projects and I've never I don't turn them down. It's
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: not my thing. But my focus is primarily on running
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: the schools. I know that's crazy for some people who
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: whose air is to be seen by people, but I
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: know that there's another side to that, and there's a
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: cost to that as well as you well know. And
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: you can't undring that bell. Uh So I am so
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: grateful to uh Ayana and Oprah for the opportunity and
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: the opportunities. You also know this, you never know what's
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: gonna happen with televisions. So the conversation is I'll put
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: it this way, and you know you understand this as well.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I'll be as specific as I can without getting myself
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: jammed up. Um, there is fevered conversation between a number
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: of entities as to what to do because there's there's
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: been a there's been a long interest from our backs
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: when we did, say my son of extending that work.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: There are people who are still very interested in that.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Some of those people in the posistence of power at networks,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: some of them are at streaming services, and I think
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: that they wanted to see how how the most recent
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to see if I still
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: got it, but they wanted to see it again in person,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: so they got to see that again. And UM, I
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: think that I think that the open win Free Network,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: among others, I'm going to be really frank with you,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: I think that the OPRAH Win Free Network among others,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: UM saw the Universal University positive reaction to the work.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: I think that people were I think I'll just tell
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: you what people said, the internet was a buzz with
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: very very very high positive and you know how hard
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: that is to achieve, you know, because we know where
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: we're going. Everybody sees you serious. You are a fun guy.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: You know we're we're realist. You smile, you know, you're
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: like you know, you know where the party is. So
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: so I know that you you gotta keep in looping
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: this because I'm telling you, man, I cannot let them
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: not see the three the full three sixty of you.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: You know, yes your passion, Yes you're driven to change.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: But man, come on, now, can we see you smile
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: on tv dtry? Can we see that? We see that?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: What you know when it's just you know what it
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: is is it's hard to smile. What I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: save the kids, and that's usually what you get to
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  Speaker 1: see me do. Um, But they don't get to see.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get to see uh us in Hot Texas
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  Speaker 1: just sitting back cooking meat and laughing for hours, literally
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  Speaker 1: trying not to get eaten by every on earth. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They don't see that because it's just not an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But listen to me when I say that. When I
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  Speaker 1: say that, the reason I'm dropping that into your conversation
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  Speaker 1: because that's you. Because see what happens, what happens with
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  Speaker 1: producers see things a certain way because that's their mind.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you you change lives on the different levels.
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  Speaker 1: You can smile and change a child's life. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: you do that on a regular basis. I've seen you
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  Speaker 1: at Disney, I've seen you at Camp. I've seen you
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  Speaker 1: an other speaking opportunities. We smiled, we walked in the room,
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  Speaker 1: We make a decision. I'm just telling you, if that
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  Speaker 1: television opportunity presents itself, please be you at all levels.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate you saying that one of the challenges.
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  Speaker 1: So again, let's just have a real conversation. So one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why the TV one thing didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out is because I couldn't do what I think they
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  Speaker 1: wanted me to do, which is to get up in
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  Speaker 1: boys chests and and dumn love. I don't talk the
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  Speaker 1: kids like that. I don't. I don't the kids like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk to mine like that sometimes, but not everybody else's.
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  Speaker 1: And I can take liberties with mine because the mine,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't even take I'll try to avoid take
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  Speaker 1: them even with them, because nobody responds really well to that.
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  Speaker 1: I say all that to say, one of the challenges
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  Speaker 1: there is about capturing that part of the nuances of
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  Speaker 1: my personality. They wanted something I didn't have. Similarly when Fox,
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  Speaker 1: when I was doing the daytime piece with Fox, then
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  Speaker 1: they it's it's like the poles. They either want the
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  Speaker 1: the you know, like I'll bust your ass kind of
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  Speaker 1: uh Joe Clarkey guy. The other one they want is
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  Speaker 1: this goofy Wayne Brady character. And I'm not Dissa Wayne Brady,
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  Speaker 1: but you understand what I'm saying, Like it's just this
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  Speaker 1: goofy uh amorphous you know, you can tell these African
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  Speaker 1: American but you're not gonna hear anything about his cultural
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  Speaker 1: underpinnings as they relate to come through. They wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to be something that almost was Kelly Clarkson slash. Ellen asked,
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  Speaker 1: and sure, we can have those kinds of conversations, No
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  Speaker 1: doubt that's what you and I would do. We have
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of conversations. But I'm not silly. You understand
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm not a silly person. That's
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  Speaker 1: I'm just not, never have been, never will be um.
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  Speaker 1: There are different ways in which we can laugh and
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  Speaker 1: be relatable that are still respectful of who we are
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  Speaker 1: a man. You're not a silly. I don't anybody wants
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  Speaker 1: say rashan silly like that ridiculous. You know, if you laugh,
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  Speaker 1: you joke, anybody call you still. You are serious cat.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a lot of time in making people laugh
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  Speaker 1: for a living, but it's serious about your business absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it we're gonna wrap up
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  Speaker 1: here is that because I want to talk to some
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  Speaker 1: stuff offline as well about this, because you're right, that's
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  Speaker 1: my life. My life is about shaping people's opportunities. My
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  Speaker 1: life is about giving you some stuff that may not
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  Speaker 1: even benefit me. And when I look at you, you've
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  Speaker 1: always been a benefit not only to me, but the
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  Speaker 1: people around me and the people that I invited you
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  Speaker 1: your blessing brother. Your family is a blessing, and the
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