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- 0:59Speaker 1: My show today. My next two guests are Bennie Boom,
- 1:03Speaker 1: well known director, and Solomon Onneita Jr. Bennie Boone is
- 1:07Speaker 1: one of the executive producers of Tasmanian Devil and Solomon
- 1:09Speaker 1: Ounita Junior is the writer and director of Tasmanian Devil.
- 1:13Speaker 1: He is a little history of My Man, Benny Boom.
- 1:15Speaker 1: He's a member of Appa Phi Apple As it Is. Solomon,
- 1:18Speaker 1: he directed a much anticipated two pop cool bio pick
- 1:21Speaker 1: out All Eyes on Me. He has dominated television and
- 1:24Speaker 1: streaming platforms. Benny's directed episodes of n c I, s
- 1:28Speaker 1: l A, Black Lightning and All American The Quad and
- 1:31Speaker 1: Tales at BT Lee Daniels Empire on Fox Now. In
- 1:35Speaker 1: August of twenty The Tasan Tasmanian Devil Earned Solomon Nita Jr.
- 1:40Speaker 1: The inaugural John Singleton Director Award for the Best First
- 1:43Speaker 1: Feature at the twenty American Black Film Festival. Tasmanian Devil
- 1:47Speaker 1: was streaming on all platforms, especially Amazon, iTunes and Fandaego.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Please welcome to My Man. To money making conversations, Bennie
- 1:55Speaker 1: Boone and Solomon Oneita Junior. How you doing, Fellas are
- 1:58Speaker 1: you doing, man, I gotta play apples on the call
- 2:01Speaker 1: right here. I think that's important to say this because
- 2:08Speaker 1: we're talking about them more by pledging and and if
- 2:11Speaker 1: they you know, I've seen a lot of different versions. Uh,
- 2:14Speaker 1: I know. I was fortunate. Uh I should do sitcoms
- 2:17Speaker 1: and I used to. I wrote an episode with Sister
- 2:19Speaker 1: Sister when it was on the air and we did.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Uh my man, Brian McKnight, he was a start in
- 2:25Speaker 1: the sitcom and we and you know, when you start
- 2:28Speaker 1: talking about fraternitys and sororities and if you if you
- 2:32Speaker 1: make anybody walking the straight line or anybody to do
- 2:35Speaker 1: something against their will, then no national branch to mess
- 2:39Speaker 1: with you, because that's hazy. That's you know, if you
- 2:42Speaker 1: said walking the straight line, if they bowed out to you,
- 2:45Speaker 1: they say yes, sir, that is a form of hazing.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I just want to explain to people why they didn't
- 2:49Speaker 1: use a f I A And you can't. That's hazing.
- 2:52Speaker 1: And if you acknowledge that use in a movie, then
- 2:54Speaker 1: they can come and can come back and bite them
- 2:56Speaker 1: into some form of a lawsuit because they can use
- 2:58Speaker 1: that where you acknowledge just portray in a movie here.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So That's why even though they are members of a
- 3:03Speaker 1: phi A, they can't use it because guess what the
- 3:06Speaker 1: images that they're portraying in this movie, which are very
- 3:08Speaker 1: realistic by the way. And I'm not saying anything negative
- 3:11Speaker 1: because guess what it happened to me when I pledged
- 3:13Speaker 1: to make a fire. In fact, it was pretty much
- 3:16Speaker 1: worse in certain situations. But you know, I have nothing
- 3:20Speaker 1: negative about that, Benny and Solomon when I talk about this,
- 3:23Speaker 1: because I will tell you this pledge to maka scat fire,
- 3:26Speaker 1: as you probably say pledge in a phi A, it
- 3:28Speaker 1: changed my life, how about you, guys? Uh? For me,
- 3:32Speaker 1: a hundred percent changed my life. I pledged spring one
- 3:36Speaker 1: at Temple at University Pigro. I was a solo pledge.
- 3:40Speaker 1: So it was a very very very difficult or deal
- 3:43Speaker 1: for me, and um, it definitely changed me from a
- 3:46Speaker 1: boy to a man. I was nineteen years old and
- 3:48Speaker 1: I had uh. I was a freshman. You know a
- 3:51Speaker 1: lot of those things you know that I was grappling
- 3:54Speaker 1: with as a young man. I was molded and guided
- 3:57Speaker 1: by by my bros. You know the it grows at
- 4:00Speaker 1: the time, and so it really changed my life, guided me,
- 4:03Speaker 1: matured me, really quickly, and I appreciated every single day.
- 4:07Speaker 1: You know, what I was, what I went through, and
- 4:10Speaker 1: what I was able to make it through. How about you, Solomon?
- 4:14Speaker 1: For me, I had a very similar experience with with
- 4:17Speaker 1: pledging Alphafi offa. UM. What I showed in the film
- 4:21Speaker 1: is not necessarily my exact experience, you know. I made
- 4:24Speaker 1: it a fixtionalized version for entertainment purposes. But the lessons
- 4:29Speaker 1: and the values that these organizations UH give young men
- 4:33Speaker 1: is what I was trying to depict through film. Um.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And so the journey that my lead character takes throughout
- 4:40Speaker 1: Tasmanian Devil, it's something similar that I experienced, you know,
- 4:44Speaker 1: gaining self confidence, gaining that brotherhood factor that uh that
- 4:50Speaker 1: you know, really propels you to that next phase of
- 4:52Speaker 1: your life, especially as a young man. We know. It's interesting, Benny,
- 4:57Speaker 1: you said you pledged you when you was a freshman.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I was a senior and I played so you know,
- 5:01Speaker 1: they hit me hard. Why do you watch you long?
- 5:02Speaker 1: Why wat you long? Oh dude? Trying to pledge all
- 5:06Speaker 1: these young people? And but and I say that because
- 5:10Speaker 1: I was lost, man, and that's what I see in
- 5:12Speaker 1: this movie Tasmanian Devil, was a young man who's lost,
- 5:15Speaker 1: trying to find himself. He's from a foreign he's from
- 5:18Speaker 1: another country. His mom is back in the country where
- 5:20Speaker 1: he's coming from his dad. I guess it's a disconnect
- 5:23Speaker 1: because his dad wasn't with him as he grew up
- 5:25Speaker 1: and became a man, and so he comes over here
- 5:28Speaker 1: and the manhood he receives it is really from the
- 5:30Speaker 1: relationship he creates with these young men in the in
- 5:33Speaker 1: the in the fraternity, he's trying to pledge and I,
- 5:35Speaker 1: in my reading it right, that's um, that's exactly right.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I think that the one thing for me when I
- 5:42Speaker 1: read the script, you know, Solomon Uh Solomon's producer Trishia Woodard,
- 5:46Speaker 1: got the script to me and and my company and
- 5:48Speaker 1: we're looking for um producers and financing and stuff like that.
- 5:53Speaker 1: And so when I read the script, I was so
- 5:55Speaker 1: familiar with the pledge process that that wasn't the first
- 5:58Speaker 1: thing that jumped out of me. The first thing that
- 6:00Speaker 1: really jumped out of me was the relationship, the father's
- 6:02Speaker 1: son relationship in the film, and I felt like reading
- 6:06Speaker 1: that script. You know, whenever you read a piece of material, um,
- 6:10Speaker 1: you try to find the commonality of the story that
- 6:13Speaker 1: that you think everyone can relate to. So everybody can't
- 6:16Speaker 1: relate to for pledging or hazing, or the Black week
- 6:19Speaker 1: life or black colleges, but everybody can relate to their
- 6:22Speaker 1: own relationship or dynamic with their mother or father. And
- 6:26Speaker 1: to me, that is the strength and the foundation of
- 6:29Speaker 1: this film. Um, that relationship that you know, um where
- 6:34Speaker 1: where where Diode comes to America thinking that you know,
- 6:37Speaker 1: he looked as his dad as a god, you know,
- 6:40Speaker 1: and he comes to America and he's falls very short
- 6:44Speaker 1: of that. You know, you're also talking about in the film.
- 6:46Speaker 1: He's a man of God, he's a missionary and a pastor,
- 6:49Speaker 1: and so we have that dynamic of faith um in
- 6:52Speaker 1: the film, which is also something that uh, you know,
- 6:55Speaker 1: I I'd like to talk about in the film because
- 6:57Speaker 1: I think it's an important factor when when in this story, well,
- 7:01Speaker 1: you know, it was important to me because you know,
- 7:04Speaker 1: here's a guy he left his family, right, he left
- 7:07Speaker 1: his wife, His wife had to raise a young man,
- 7:09Speaker 1: and we all know the dynamics of it importance the
- 7:12Speaker 1: men in the boy's life, and he wasn't there in
- 7:15Speaker 1: those important formative years and basically he was the only
- 7:19Speaker 1: reason he came to him. I'm not gonna tell the story.
- 7:21Speaker 1: It was. It was it was kind of like happens
- 7:23Speaker 1: that that he actually was in the States to be
- 7:26Speaker 1: with his father. But his father explaining, Solomon, what were
- 7:30Speaker 1: you trying to achieve in the in the in the
- 7:33Speaker 1: ark of the character with the father, because you're the
- 7:35Speaker 1: writer and the director, what were you achieving in that relationship?
- 7:38Speaker 1: Because I hear what Benny said, and I'm agree with
- 7:40Speaker 1: what you're saying, Bennie. And because my father was a
- 7:43Speaker 1: disconnect with me, you know, I loved him to death,
- 7:46Speaker 1: you know, and uh, but we were not that type
- 7:48Speaker 1: father s relationship. Uh for me. When it came to
- 7:54Speaker 1: the father Tasmane in Devil, uh, it kind of mirrored
- 7:59Speaker 1: my relate and ship with my father. My my dad
- 8:01Speaker 1: is also in the ministry and OFT and often he
- 8:04Speaker 1: would leave to Nigeria to other countries on missionary trips
- 8:09Speaker 1: to uh, you know, because he he works in UM
- 8:13Speaker 1: and like radio broadcast and in order to kind of
- 8:17Speaker 1: you know, spread the message of Christ. And so I
- 8:20Speaker 1: was looking at that when I was when I was
- 8:22Speaker 1: growing up, and I was thinking, you know, he's leaving
- 8:24Speaker 1: his family in order to push the Gospel and so
- 8:29Speaker 1: you know, his his attention is being carried away from
- 8:31Speaker 1: things that I thought he should have, you know, been
- 8:34Speaker 1: at home trying to nurture us as we were coming up,
- 8:37Speaker 1: but he was instead doing other things. So for me,
- 8:40Speaker 1: it's like that was the most interesting part of of
- 8:43Speaker 1: of the character for me, because I thought the art
- 8:46Speaker 1: there was he puts more value in this out is
- 8:50Speaker 1: in this external system of religion versus his own family,
- 8:54Speaker 1: and that's what I was trying to portray. Well, you know,
- 8:56Speaker 1: we're not being you know, you know I mentioned a
- 8:59Speaker 1: different of as you show you've done success in the
- 9:02Speaker 1: film industry and then you get a project that comes
- 9:05Speaker 1: to your production company, Tasmanian Devil. You know, is it
- 9:10Speaker 1: is it the character structure or is the content of
- 9:12Speaker 1: what the script brought to the table that really excited
- 9:16Speaker 1: you the most, or we're just the favorite mee ority
- 9:18Speaker 1: of the background because you are remember I'm apafip. Well,
- 9:23Speaker 1: it was a combination of things. I think part of um,
- 9:27Speaker 1: part of our responsibility as uh in these fraternities is
- 9:32Speaker 1: something that's important, and I think over the years it
- 9:35Speaker 1: has gotten lost on on all of us, you know,
- 9:38Speaker 1: not just Alpha's not just cues. All of us we've
- 9:40Speaker 1: we've sort of we've taken a back seat to what
- 9:43Speaker 1: we're supposed to be doing. And what we're supposed to
- 9:46Speaker 1: be doing is giving back to the community. We're supposed
- 9:49Speaker 1: to reach back and bring other people up. Regardless of
- 9:52Speaker 1: what I mean, I would have had this film come
- 9:54Speaker 1: to me Solomon not been an alpha and he was
- 9:57Speaker 1: you know, a queue or new I would have been
- 9:59Speaker 1: involved in the same way, because that wasn't the reason why.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Um what I wanted to do was to be able
- 10:05Speaker 1: to help a young man who wanted to be or
- 10:08Speaker 1: who is a filmmaker tell his story and not be
- 10:12Speaker 1: held back by what happens when you make a studio movie,
- 10:16Speaker 1: when producers who've never made a movie before or never
- 10:19Speaker 1: directed or never written have all these notes and ideas
- 10:22Speaker 1: and thoughts and all this stuff, and it goes against
- 10:25Speaker 1: what you want to do creatively. Right, So what I
- 10:29Speaker 1: what I wanted to do was helped shepherd him in
- 10:31Speaker 1: this into this industry in a way where his full
- 10:34Speaker 1: vision can be achieved. The way he thought about the scenes,
- 10:38Speaker 1: the way he wrote the scenes, the way he directed
- 10:40Speaker 1: the scenes, or his vision. At the same time, because
- 10:44Speaker 1: of the experience I had. I wanted to give him
- 10:46Speaker 1: some notes and some ideas, but never was I in
- 10:50Speaker 1: a position where I said, Yo, you gotta take these
- 10:52Speaker 1: notes or it's gonna be whacked. No. I would offer
- 10:55Speaker 1: my ideas to him, some he took something he didn't,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and I respected to respect acted them both the same way. Um,
- 11:02Speaker 1: because the point of the matter is when you make
- 11:04Speaker 1: a film, you have to as the director and writer,
- 11:06Speaker 1: you have to live and die by that film. So
- 11:09Speaker 1: I I just wanted him to make sure that he
- 11:12Speaker 1: was solid and stood solid on the ground and the
- 11:14Speaker 1: decisions that he made. And my whole goal was to
- 11:17Speaker 1: be here to support him. And I think it's really
- 11:19Speaker 1: important to Solomon that you did have someone who had
- 11:23Speaker 1: the fraternal experience, the pledge experience, because I would tell you,
- 11:28Speaker 1: man really enjoyed the movie. I was. I smiled because
- 11:32Speaker 1: they brought back memories, you know, zombody trying, you know,
- 11:38Speaker 1: when it was past, you know, when it was greed.
- 11:41Speaker 1: It was like, you know I was going through if
- 11:44Speaker 1: I was going through, see it through, I was, I
- 11:46Speaker 1: was going I was just it was like even keep
- 11:49Speaker 1: your heading all about your losing theirs and blaming you
- 11:51Speaker 1: I'm going whoo. You know, it was like it was.
- 11:53Speaker 1: It was the reason I'm excited about it. I wanted
- 11:56Speaker 1: to highly recommend this movie is because you know, it's
- 11:58Speaker 1: a collegiate journey because you don't have people on the
- 12:00Speaker 1: outside saw what we experience, and then you have the
- 12:03Speaker 1: people who experienced it and can share that that that
- 12:07Speaker 1: firm belief. But this is why I feel it was
- 12:09Speaker 1: important that Benny was part of this, this this bootoo
- 12:14Speaker 1: seen in uh process, because it didn't go over the top.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Nothing in this movie. I went, that's some crap what
- 12:23Speaker 1: you doing? And we were never on that dude. It
- 12:26Speaker 1: stayed on the level plane field. It didn't go to
- 12:29Speaker 1: the extreme because you know where it can go. But
- 12:31Speaker 1: it was not nobody's jumping out of a plane, somebody
- 12:33Speaker 1: dropping out of a call, somebody robbing the store because
- 12:36Speaker 1: they're trying to get some Everything that was asked in
- 12:39Speaker 1: this movie by the young man actually happened to me
- 12:43Speaker 1: or I asked somebody to do it for me when
- 12:46Speaker 1: I became a big brother. That's important, Solomon, and I
- 12:50Speaker 1: believe it. What's your what's your thoughts on that? Uh? Yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 1: I just wanted to show almost like a standard view
- 12:58Speaker 1: of what hazing is. I mean, a lot of people
- 13:00Speaker 1: in hazen from other black films like Stump the Yard
- 13:03Speaker 1: and Spike Lee's movie, so we have a knowledge of
- 13:06Speaker 1: hazing already. I didn't want to get too deep into,
- 13:10Speaker 1: you know, what different organizations do, because that's not what
- 13:13Speaker 1: this is about. You know, I created it. I created
- 13:15Speaker 1: a film that's outside of m pH C. So I
- 13:19Speaker 1: just wanted to show a generic hazing process or pledging process,
- 13:23Speaker 1: to use that as a vehicle to to show what
- 13:26Speaker 1: it's like to to enter this organization and then uh
- 13:30Speaker 1: comparing compared contrast that to the religious aspects of it
- 13:34Speaker 1: and to the you know him trying to assimilate to
- 13:37Speaker 1: American culture. Uh So that's why I kept a very
- 13:41Speaker 1: surface level. I just showed stuff that people probably already
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- 15:41Speaker 1: That's O T T E R dot ai. Well you
- 15:44Speaker 1: doing someone, I don't want to. I don't say yourself short. Um,
- 15:48Speaker 1: it's about an experience and and you know as a person,
- 15:52Speaker 1: and you both you both fair plays, you know, any
- 15:54Speaker 1: plays by myself. I played with three other brothers. I
- 15:56Speaker 1: players with a fifth one. But we're going to run,
- 15:59Speaker 1: and he jumped out of the car while I was
- 16:00Speaker 1: still moving. So we went down the flour So that's
- 16:03Speaker 1: how extreme pledging can beat, you know, and then ran
- 16:05Speaker 1: back to the door when we weren't gonna get out
- 16:07Speaker 1: of his bed. I quit, I quit, I'm done, And
- 16:10Speaker 1: I know the first day, just sharing some experience. I
- 16:12Speaker 1: did get hit on the first day. That were the board.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I got paddled, you know, because my my Lyon brothers knew.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I didn't know them. We're just all pleasure. At the
- 16:21Speaker 1: same time we're playing cards. They said, look look at me.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Serious now, however many points y'all lose by that's that man, time,
- 16:28Speaker 1: we're gonna hit him. Ye, they were really okay. They
- 16:34Speaker 1: just the points kept, And in my mind, I'm going,
- 16:37Speaker 1: are they seriously up a hundred points here? Damn? You
- 16:41Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And and then all real it
- 16:43Speaker 1: was a hundred and eighty four points they lost? Come on,
- 16:47Speaker 1: come on now, And I got hit a hundred and
- 16:49Speaker 1: eighty four times on my first day. And I'm not
- 16:52Speaker 1: saying that as a badge of courage. I'm just saying
- 16:54Speaker 1: that that in that point of life, you make decisions.
- 16:57Speaker 1: And I think that that's what this movie is about.
- 17:00Speaker 1: It's a decision making movie. It's a decision about relationships.
- 17:04Speaker 1: It's a decision about his dad, this decision to come
- 17:06Speaker 1: over there, it's decision how people look at you. When
- 17:08Speaker 1: he finally stood up to Homeboard that told him he
- 17:11Speaker 1: know started calling him names, and he stood up for
- 17:13Speaker 1: him the first time because he found he was soft,
- 17:16Speaker 1: because he had a soft tone and he wasn't aggressive.
- 17:19Speaker 1: This is a really great movie, Solomon, and it's not
- 17:23Speaker 1: about the levels that you deliver. It's the story that
- 17:25Speaker 1: you're telling. Man. And Benny, I'm sure you played a
- 17:28Speaker 1: major role. And I'm and I'm not trying to undersell this.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I'm just selling it right. Man. I enjoyed. I would
- 17:34Speaker 1: watch it again because I watched it this morning. Whenever
- 17:36Speaker 1: I do interviews like this, I don't like to watch
- 17:38Speaker 1: a movie three days or four days. I like to
- 17:41Speaker 1: watch it the day of. So I got up at
- 17:43Speaker 1: four o'clock this morning and I watched the movie. And
- 17:46Speaker 1: it's entire to the one hour and fifty nine minutes.
- 17:48Speaker 1: I know. I watched it and I enjoyed, and I went, wow,
- 17:52Speaker 1: this is really good because and the lead character is amazing.
- 17:55Speaker 1: That plays d He's amazing. Abraham. Yeah. You know. The
- 17:59Speaker 1: one thing too, I want to say the culture of
- 18:03Speaker 1: the cultural aspects of this film are important. And you know,
- 18:06Speaker 1: when when we made this movie, we didn't you know,
- 18:08Speaker 1: this was pre pandemic, this was pre George Floyd and
- 18:12Speaker 1: all these things. And I think one interesting factor about
- 18:15Speaker 1: it is that um as as Africans in this diaspora
- 18:20Speaker 1: of America. We we are finally, I think now have
- 18:23Speaker 1: finally come together as one unit where we can look
- 18:27Speaker 1: at each other as real brothers. And I mean, you know, um, Russia.
- 18:31Speaker 1: You know, we were probably not that far in age,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and we grew up in a time where you know,
- 18:36Speaker 1: if you as African or Haitian or Jamaican or something
- 18:40Speaker 1: like that, southern Southern brothers and brother people that grew up.
- 18:44Speaker 1: I grew up in Philly, but my parents, my father's
- 18:46Speaker 1: from the South, you know, from Virginia, and my mother's
- 18:49Speaker 1: from Philly, but she's her parents are from Virginia, North Carolina,
- 18:52Speaker 1: so southern roots. And we always looked at Africans or
- 18:56Speaker 1: blacks coming from other places in a little weird, a
- 18:59Speaker 1: little weird way to way they sounded, the food they
- 19:01Speaker 1: ate and all these things. And so this is this
- 19:04Speaker 1: film showed It showed a little bit of that, but
- 19:08Speaker 1: it showed the respect factor too. He was like, you're
- 19:10Speaker 1: from Africa, right, and he says, you got a four
- 19:13Speaker 1: point oh. And I think that right there showed a
- 19:17Speaker 1: lot because it changed that little scene changed the dynamic
- 19:21Speaker 1: of what African Americans think of Afrikaans, right, And I
- 19:26Speaker 1: think that's important given what we are all going through
- 19:29Speaker 1: uh in this country right now. And in terms of
- 19:32Speaker 1: you know, when when that policeman stopped you, he's not
- 19:35Speaker 1: asking you if your parents are from Nigeria or Keaston
- 19:38Speaker 1: or or Charlotte or you know or Southfield, Virginia. He's
- 19:43Speaker 1: they looking at the black skin. And I think, now
- 19:46Speaker 1: we we uh at a point in in in this um,
- 19:50Speaker 1: you know, in this journey of of African people that
- 19:52Speaker 1: we all together now you know, we can look at
- 19:55Speaker 1: each other and respect each other. It takes alloy took
- 19:57Speaker 1: a long time for that, but I think now I
- 20:00Speaker 1: probably you know, we could respect each other when we
- 20:02Speaker 1: see each other, you know. Not when I think about
- 20:04Speaker 1: this when at four I remember that scene because they
- 20:06Speaker 1: mentioned that four point four point or great point that
- 20:09Speaker 1: like three times in the movie. When I took away
- 20:11Speaker 1: from that Solomon and being able, I always tell people
- 20:14Speaker 1: when you have value, when you create value, then there's
- 20:17Speaker 1: a need or want for you, you know, because people
- 20:20Speaker 1: girl wants to be a millionaire, but what's your value?
- 20:23Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be active? Can you act and more basketball?
- 20:26Speaker 1: Can you dribble? You know? Can you show up for
- 20:28Speaker 1: practice on time, and to me, that was a strong
- 20:31Speaker 1: moment for me, for for just young black people in general,
- 20:34Speaker 1: especially black men. If you create value, then there's a want.
- 20:38Speaker 1: You create want, then there's a desire to make you
- 20:41Speaker 1: part of or make you a whole part of something
- 20:43Speaker 1: that's bigger. And that's the whole thing about the Tasmon
- 20:47Speaker 1: and day of experiences that you know, being our players
- 20:49Speaker 1: to make as fire. You know, we had the cute
- 20:51Speaker 1: pearls and all that's all these different layers, the A
- 20:53Speaker 1: K s and all that stuff. I remember the scene
- 20:56Speaker 1: when there was at the UC Center. We all know
- 20:59Speaker 1: when is the I don't care what campus you on
- 21:01Speaker 1: in America, Wednesday noon, brother, on the campus, that's where
- 21:07Speaker 1: you got to be on any black hbc U white
- 21:11Speaker 1: Wednesday New not Tuesday, Thursday, but Wednesday New. So I
- 21:15Speaker 1: had so many flashbacks in this movie, but it was
- 21:17Speaker 1: tied to the realism and the portrayal of the college experience,
- 21:21Speaker 1: because you really gave me the college experience, not only
- 21:24Speaker 1: from his point of view, for the other young men
- 21:26Speaker 1: who wanted to fit in. Because you can agree with this,
- 21:30Speaker 1: Ben and you went to Temple. I went to the
- 21:31Speaker 1: University of Houston. So even though it was like we
- 21:35Speaker 1: thought it was a lot of black people on campus,
- 21:38Speaker 1: it was only like dred of Us, right, you know
- 21:43Speaker 1: what you thought you thought we was like of the campus.
- 21:46Speaker 1: You know, do you realize it's thirty five thousand white
- 21:49Speaker 1: people on this CAMPU we only and but but that's
- 21:53Speaker 1: the black experience. But also I remember I became vice
- 21:56Speaker 1: president's student body and that was because of the black
- 21:59Speaker 1: experience allowed me to experience that. But truly, I'm talking
- 22:03Speaker 1: to you saw the black experience just talking about what's
- 22:06Speaker 1: happened in and seeing what happened to Georgian Floyd, George Floyd,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and watching black men talk, you know, used in word
- 22:15Speaker 1: like they're supposed to use their word on the streets,
- 22:17Speaker 1: you know, being comfortable in using that. What was your
- 22:21Speaker 1: whole ultimate goal besides being a personal story that you
- 22:25Speaker 1: can relate to use a return to remember your dad
- 22:27Speaker 1: was in the ministry, did radio some form of entertainment?
- 22:31Speaker 1: What was the ultimate journey for the movie Tasmanian Devil,
- 22:35Speaker 1: Um with Tasmanian Devil, And also hopefully as I progressed
- 22:40Speaker 1: in my career, my goal is to show Black people
- 22:44Speaker 1: ask who we truly are? Um there's a lot of
- 22:47Speaker 1: like most of the stuff that that depicts African American
- 22:50Speaker 1: culture and film is us having to overcome some type
- 22:54Speaker 1: of system or like racism or slavery. Something that is, uh,
- 22:58Speaker 1: that's something that we have to fight against. But I
- 23:00Speaker 1: just wanted to us living our lives, like doing things
- 23:03Speaker 1: that we do. You know, that's that's that's my voice
- 23:06Speaker 1: as a filmmaker. That's that's my contribution. I want to
- 23:09Speaker 1: make films for black people that that that that's just
- 23:12Speaker 1: us existing in our everyday lives and showing the different
- 23:16Speaker 1: things we can do, not just having to overcome a
- 23:18Speaker 1: white system or being inferior to some other kind of
- 23:21Speaker 1: race or something like that. So with Tasmanian Devil, that's
- 23:24Speaker 1: what I was going forward as I created, As I
- 23:26Speaker 1: continue to make films, that's what I'll continue to do.
- 23:29Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you saw that in Tasmanian Devil,
- 23:32Speaker 1: because I hope to do more of it. Hey man,
- 23:34Speaker 1: I believe me. I saw that and more. I saw
- 23:36Speaker 1: a talented young man, and I'm so happy that Benny,
- 23:39Speaker 1: you're doing that. You know, Basically I created money making
- 23:43Speaker 1: conversation because so many people would ask me to mentor it,
- 23:46Speaker 1: you know, and I just can't mentor everybody. So I
- 23:48Speaker 1: kind of like use these interviews I'm doing with you
- 23:50Speaker 1: guys as a form of mentoring people. Listened an interview,
- 23:53Speaker 1: they grab your experience being they grab your experience, Solomon,
- 23:56Speaker 1: and it becomes a possibility those neuggage that you guys
- 23:58Speaker 1: dropped doing an interview. Now you talked about script to
- 24:01Speaker 1: come your way. You created a production company with a
- 24:04Speaker 1: fellow fraternity brother, Benny. Talk tell us about your production company. Well,
- 24:08Speaker 1: we have Groundwork Studios and it's uh, we created myself
- 24:11Speaker 1: and Gerald Rawls, who's brother alpha brother from my chapter
- 24:15Speaker 1: who I pledged, and we you know, from day one,
- 24:18Speaker 1: we always um said that we we have you know,
- 24:22Speaker 1: we know that there's something greater that can be done
- 24:24Speaker 1: in entertainment. So while I was directing videos and having
- 24:27Speaker 1: the opportunity to do movies and television, I'm also uh
- 24:31Speaker 1: opening myself up to the next voices and the important
- 24:35Speaker 1: It's interesting to hear Solomon say that because it's it's funny.
- 24:37Speaker 1: This is the first time I'm actually hearing his mission statement.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Funny enough of what he of what he sees himself
- 24:44Speaker 1: as a filmmaker, which I think is great because you know,
- 24:48Speaker 1: when I was trying to come up and make you know,
- 24:51Speaker 1: from transition from music videos to film, did knock was
- 24:55Speaker 1: that we didn't want to do anything that was black
- 24:59Speaker 1: subject matter because it really wasn't popular then, right, So
- 25:02Speaker 1: we were trying to fit in, get in somewhere. Um,
- 25:06Speaker 1: that didn't really happen for me. So the first film
- 25:08Speaker 1: I did was Next Day Air, which was the first
- 25:11Speaker 1: feature of Mike's Mike Epps and Wood Harris and Ormari Hardwick,
- 25:14Speaker 1: which is a very black, very um our comedy. You
- 25:20Speaker 1: know that that kind of dealt with the drug subject matter,
- 25:24Speaker 1: and it was very relatable to my life growing up
- 25:27Speaker 1: in West Philly in a way. Um, And so that
- 25:31Speaker 1: although you know, the film is funny and people talk
- 25:33Speaker 1: about it, you know, had I made that film in
- 25:36Speaker 1: this climate and probably would have been received more or
- 25:38Speaker 1: better or bigger, you know, and something like that, had
- 25:41Speaker 1: more interest in it. But it was just very hard
- 25:44Speaker 1: at that time to get people interested in black movies.
- 25:48Speaker 1: And I'm just so glad that I'm able to sit
- 25:50Speaker 1: here now, um, you know, some fifteen years later from
- 25:53Speaker 1: that movie almost and be able to help a young
- 25:57Speaker 1: filmmaker tell his story a way that he wants to
- 26:01Speaker 1: tell it to to and give it to the world,
- 26:04Speaker 1: and and the other great thing, um and it's not great.
- 26:07Speaker 1: But something that's come out of COVID is that we
- 26:10Speaker 1: don't we don't have to be hampered by the idea
- 26:13Speaker 1: of um of what do you call theaters of theatrical release,
- 26:18Speaker 1: And so we can put this film out and give
- 26:20Speaker 1: it to the audience without having to go through the
- 26:23Speaker 1: trades and say, oh, man, we only made you know,
- 26:25Speaker 1: three million the first weekend or two million the first
- 26:28Speaker 1: week those kind of things. Is which I'm really happy about.
- 26:31Speaker 1: We can actually actually service the audience with a great
- 26:34Speaker 1: movie and not be worried about, um, what the perception
- 26:38Speaker 1: is of it based on how many people saw it
- 26:41Speaker 1: the first weekend. Well, you know exactly what what I'm
- 26:44Speaker 1: saying when you said all Eyes on Me. It was
- 26:46Speaker 1: considered a black movie. It was only basically domestically released.
- 26:50Speaker 1: It was limited released into foreign selected markets maybe England,
- 26:55Speaker 1: the Caribbean, maybe South Africa, or Africa in general. Where
- 26:58Speaker 1: this movie when released February nine, it's gonna be on
- 27:02Speaker 1: the entire it's worldwide release. That's that's what I really
- 27:05Speaker 1: love about streaming. I'm glad you brought that up because
- 27:07Speaker 1: our champions streaming, especially when it comes to black products,
- 27:10Speaker 1: because we're not limited to what somebody says we should
- 27:14Speaker 1: be seen by. All of these people really want to
- 27:16Speaker 1: see your movie. Now. People are everybody seeing your movies,
- 27:20Speaker 1: and that's important because it's premiering on Amazon, it's premiering
- 27:23Speaker 1: on that tune, and these are international platform Fandango, Google,
- 27:27Speaker 1: Play Off the Horizon. That is the beauty of why
- 27:30Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I was a part of
- 27:32Speaker 1: this interview you. I'm gonna put it on my social
- 27:35Speaker 1: media and put it in my newsletter because my man,
- 27:38Speaker 1: you know, like Bennie said, you are our future. And
- 27:40Speaker 1: I'm not saying being a not ready to die, I'm
- 27:43Speaker 1: not saying that solid okay, but you are our future
- 27:46Speaker 1: and it's important that we let you understand. Man. Look,
- 27:48Speaker 1: it's a whole ne different game out there because he's right.
- 27:51Speaker 1: You know, Next Day are funny boy that ended, but
- 27:54Speaker 1: they were shooting up everybody that ended, you know how
- 27:58Speaker 1: saw the movie and so but it was it was,
- 28:00Speaker 1: it was it was funny Mike eb that's my boy, Harvard, Harvard,
- 28:05Speaker 1: all these things and so it's all about timing. But
- 28:08Speaker 1: guess what if that movie back there was released domestically,
- 28:11Speaker 1: if every movie is released right now, the options of
- 28:14Speaker 1: being able to say I don't like that deal, I'm
- 28:16Speaker 1: gonna take that deal over here because I want my
- 28:18Speaker 1: product to see be seen by everybody China, uh, Russia, England, Germany,
- 28:25Speaker 1: all of Africa, Italy, you know, Brazil. That's what's gonna
- 28:29Speaker 1: happen to your project. That's why I like your project
- 28:32Speaker 1: because you're telling the story to me that's very honest
- 28:36Speaker 1: and very relatable. And I just want to say congratulations
- 28:39Speaker 1: Mr Writer, Mr Director, and I'm glad you had an
- 28:42Speaker 1: EP like Mr Benni Boone to show you the stay
- 28:45Speaker 1: true to your story because your story related was relatable
- 28:48Speaker 1: to me even at my age. You made me smile.
- 28:53Speaker 1: That's great. True. Well be I wanta thank you for
- 28:56Speaker 1: coming on the show. Solomon Ornita Jr. I'm sure I'm
- 28:59Speaker 1: gonna hear you in the future. Brother, You'll start on
- 29:01Speaker 1: the rise. Man, don't stop. Man, I appreciate you are
- 29:04Speaker 1: coming on some money making conversations. Thank you, Rush, I
- 29:07Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Man, Thank you so much. Hey man,
- 29:09Speaker 1: many you know I know you're gonna have projects in
- 29:11Speaker 1: the future. I always know you can come to me. Okay,
- 29:13Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate that. Man. Alright, the Apple Apple
- 29:16Speaker 1: Omega Main. We all fraternity brothers. Okay, alright, y'all stay strong.
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