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Book Adventures; a Mental Vacation · Spinning the Light Podcast

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Hello, and welcome to two girls in a pod.
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I'm Sharon, I'm Christy, we are once again.
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Super super excited to have another guest on today.
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We have are really, really good friend and we've been friends
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for ever. And a day I'm telling you Center
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Gutierrez. And one of the reasons we want
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to send Iran is because we feel there is such value in Reading.
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Young. And it's so important and
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Sandra. You are an Avid Reader that's
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putting it mildly. Would you say that?
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I would say, so yes. So let me ask you this, what got
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you started in Reading. I don't know readings.
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Just always been an escape from reality.
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Okay, that makes sense. Well, and, you know, I think so
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you know we talk about escape from reality and I think that
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sometimes, you know reality can, you know, whether you're feeling
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stressed, it could be stress about anything.
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You're right, picking up a book and reading it kind of can take
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you anywhere. You want to go sort of like a
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vacation for your mind. Yes, exactly.
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So but you're the type of reader who and, you know, because we
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teased you about this, you don't read one book at a time.
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No, I read books like people watch TV, most people don't set
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it on one channel and watch only one program.
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They surf through all the channels and they watch bits and
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pieces of movies. Usually, oh my God, that's how I
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read. That is such a wonderful visual,
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really because, you know, one of the things is, you know, we
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talked about reading the James Patterson book, so that kind of
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like a little book club fee and And so she you started it and
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you were reading along and then I started.
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And then you found another book. Yes, of course.
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I don't remember which one it was at the moment, but yes.
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Yeah. And so then I think it was like,
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we're back on track again. Then he found Ali's book then,
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of course, there's free books on Amazon.
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Yes. Is it going like a drug for you?
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Do we is there some kind of intervention that needs to take
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place? I don't think so.
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It's a healthy habit, right? Yes, very healthy happy.
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And you know, we were talking earlier and one of the things we
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talked about was the fact that you know, your nieces you really
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want to inspire them and encourage them to read talk a
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little bit about how you do that with them, how I Inspire them to
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read. Yeah, well, I don't know, have
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to think about that one but my one.
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Nice that's nine. She loves reading.
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Even the way she learned how to read was, but she loved playing
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video games. But nobody would read the what
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they words to her. So that's how she learned
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because she really want to play those video games.
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But now, she read the books, like really fast, actually, and
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she reads above her grade level. I think it's called.
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Yeah, and then there's my other niece that's lemon who totally
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hated reading and anything to do with school.
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I always told her, I don't care if you don't love to read but
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you need to learn how to read. So you understand things and now
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actually, she took the first place.
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She takes me to is the book I own the store.
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She loves to read now, mmm, that is so maybe it was just a timing
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thing when I think is that persistence to.
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And I think that, you know, I imagine that your niece is know
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how much you read. Oh, yeah, I always have a book.
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I carry a book everywhere well, and I think that's, you know, I
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always tell people that, you know, as adults we lead, by
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example, you know, and I think that, if you're walking around
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with a book and they see that, then that's kind of an inspiring
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thing for them. Now, that's a very true.
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Yeah. Yakking, that impression on
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them. Yeah.
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Yeah, looks even my nephew like, when I would tell my dad about a
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book, He was all intrigued and he asked me.
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What movie is that? I said, that's not a movie.
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That's a book. Oh wow, you must really do well
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in description. So, then he got into reading,
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and she likes to read, but he like Stephen King, and stuff
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like that. Mmm.
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You know, I have to tell you guys a story because, you know,
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Sandra in our friendship has given me.
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Lots of books. She has gifted me, lots of books
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which I really appreciate. She did give me one.
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I want to say it was a Stephen King book and I've Read a lot of
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Stephen King. I read a lot of Dean Koontz and,
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you know, just a lot of different authors in that genre
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area. In that book, I could not read,
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it was funny to me, because in my life of reading, I've not
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really come across a lot of books that I just sit there and
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say, oh my God, I can't finish this.
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Yeah well there's particular books that you can get into and
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not get into like for instance and rice, some of her books I
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just can't get into and there's some I really love she's a
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really good one to pick because You're right.
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There's like you liked Interview with the Vampire.
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Hmm. But then I Tried reading less
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data and I didn't I couldn't get into that the same way, it was
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different. Yeah.
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So it is kind of true and even though it might be the same
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genre, I don't know if it's the characters.
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I don't know what it is, but it will change that Dynamic of the
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book for me. Hmm, it could be the style of
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writing to. Well, that's true.
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And, you know, we've talked about this if I read a book and
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it's not grammatically writer, Or it just doesn't, there's
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things. Are he drives me?
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Crazy. Hmm.
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Oh yeah. Punctuation and grammar is a big
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thing is punctuation and grammar but the story has to content is
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important wrong. Sometimes it's the grammar is
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awkward. It's really hard to read a book.
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Yeah, that's true too. You know, it's even like
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character development to me is really important.
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It's kind of like watching a movie and they don't develop the
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character. You walk away thinking oh why
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was that character? Even in the Movie?
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Why I think that you don't make that association with that
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character. Then you can't, if you don't
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feel connected to the story in that way because you don't have
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a real good grasp of what that characters meaning is to the,
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the whole thing. I think it does impact you.
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Yes, very much. So did you take a lot of classes
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in college that revolved around reading?
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Well, because I have an English degree.
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Yes, I think that's important. To know people.
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Yeah, and also I took other literature classes that name
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pertain, like cultural ones and the cultural ones were more
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diverse. So you read a lot of different
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types of authors as opposed to just the set ones and then
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English course. Yeah.
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I think everybody in the English course, is kind of get the same
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ones. You know, those classic ones and
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things like that and I'm like, you I took some cultural ones
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which I just really, really enjoyed That's where I read.
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Bless me Ultima was in one of my classes.
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I actually read that in one of mine as well.
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Oh, really? That's kind of cool.
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Have you read that one? I read it but I don't remember
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it so well, it's one of those things.
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You read them a long time ago and and we even talked about
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that too. That sometimes you read a book
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and then sometimes when you go back and reread it at a
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different age and I think there's some in my lifetime that
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I would want to do that with. I I share and asked me earlier
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Is there like certain books that you remember, from when you were
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younger? I know, when like Middle School
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age or whatever I had read, one that made a big impression on
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me, and it was just a little fiction book.
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It was the ghost wore gray and I loved that book.
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And I will, you know, I'll still think of it sometimes now and I
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mean, you know, there's books like that my mom would read to
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me as a kid, you know, the Nancy Drew stuff and all of that.
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But I do Wonder we have one book.
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That was kind of passed through our family.
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It's called The Shepherd of the Hills and I really cannot
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remember too much about what that story is.
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I know that it has something to do with the Ozarks and that, but
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I remember I loved it as a kid and part of it was because my
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mom read it to me. She read it with voices, you
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know, like all the different characters and that.
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So I have good memory of that, but I don't remember really
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good, what the story is about. And I was thinking about that
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the other day, I might should go back and read that book again
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because it was, you know, like I said, it's one Has been passed
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through my family. You know.
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If you go back and read it, you're going to hear the voices.
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Your mom read it to you and probably, yeah.
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Times, it's kind of hard, you know what I mean?
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Or you sit there and say, wait a minute, that's the character in
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the movie, but it doesn't look like this one in the the book.
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And then you see the one in the book.
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So I don't know. It's just kind of interesting
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because you read a lot of books that are movies, right?
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I do well, if I have have read the book first, I will watch the
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movie but if the movie comes out first, I'm a less likely to
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watch. Wait, how did I say that?
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You're less likely to read the book after you've watched The
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movie. Yes, most definitely.
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Yeah because I'm like, what's the point now?
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And that's just my preference. And I always say, I got to get
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more details and, you know, they can fit way more details in the
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book. So I'm very much that person
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that will say what that in happened in the book.
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That can I have to be careful of that too.
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Because and I'm, they're thinking now, I'm just being
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over critical. They, it's a movie.
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They can't, like, Christy said, They can't fit everything into
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the book. You know what I mean it in from
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the back to the movie. I understand that but
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surprisingly you know where the project things sink.
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Yes. Is that it for the crowd
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dancing? That was an excellent movie
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because it followed the book very much.
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The only thing was the ending was a little bit different but
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it had the same concept so it still made it good if that makes
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sense. Yeah.
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And you really liked that book, and that's a wonderful, but a
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lot of people that I've talked to that have ready.
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They're like, but nothing happens for a long time and I'm
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like, well, I really loved it. I haven't read that one.
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And we haven't watched the movie either.
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So, yeah, so it's one of those that's on our list, I guess.
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Do you think we should read the book first or just watch the
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movie? I've been interested to know
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what you think about the book. Okay.
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That's kind of one of the things is because often we talk about
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books because books are kind of a really important thing.
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And it's like finding that book that just really grabs you, you
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know, and then it's or do you find that this isn't once again
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here Sandra. She gives me a book and I'm
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there like. Oh how cool is this?
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It's a laurel K Hamilton book and it's about the face.
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So I'm there like, oh, this is cool.
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So I start reading and they're like, oh, this is great.
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Then I Find out. It's a series.
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She does this to me people, she will give me.
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And then I'm there. Like, oh my God, I got to read
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it. So then I get to the, they're
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like, oh my God, this is so wonderful.
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And then, Laura K, Hamilton came out said, well, I'm not going to
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write write any more of those right now.
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It's a merry Gentry series because she went back to writing
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what's her other series? She writes Anita Blake the
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Vampire Hunter. Yes.
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And there's like 29 or 30 books right now.
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I think yes if I'm not mistaken. Yes, so she It's to do that.
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And I'm just like, why, why did you do this?
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But I follow her on Facebook and Mary Gentry's talking to her
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again, so, it sounds like she's going to write the final book to
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the series, which I cannot tell you how happy I am.
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No, because you get you there, such a buying into these
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characters and things. You know what I mean?
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And I think when stories written really, well, you are just so
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much a part of the story or that's how it is for me.
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Anyway, Well you know that's true.
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I think it's very true. Look at all the people that
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binge watch the series and things like that, but with a
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book, you can, you know, keep on reading.
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I know. It's so it's just, it's such an
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amazing thing for us. That's part of, you know, a big
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part of our friendship has been throughout the years reading and
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we talk about books. Yeah.
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You know. And we share books.
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So Sandra, how do you usually decide which book you?
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You want to read next? I know I go into the bookstore
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and I'm like, oh, this one looks cool and it's just, you know,
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never judge a book by it's cover.
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So how do you decide what is it that you want to read at this
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point of my life? I know they say don't judge a
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book by it's cover but the way I pick a book is I look for my
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favorite authors. I look at the titles if it's not
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one, I read have read. I'll pick it up and read it.
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Little bit inside flipped or whatever page inside, and if he
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grabs me, then I'll just buy it. So, when you stand sometimes, I
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even do that with authors, I don't know.
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And for me, a lot of time when I do that, it's more, the writing
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style. And yes, of course, I read the
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blurb on the back to see what it's about.
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And that has to catch me too. Okay, so when you say favorite
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authors, who are some of your favorite authors, Oh my gosh,
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there's so many. Let me see it.
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All depends, like you want when you need genre, what are you
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asking for? This is how much of a reader.
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She is just throw some names out there girl.
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You gotta break your authors down by genre, if you need to,
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that's okay. Well, of course, I can take or
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how do you say for Stephen King? It's a yes, and a no, depending
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On what the story is about. And if the writing catches me
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and the story, like he's another one of those kind of like, Anne
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Rice. I like some of them, but some of
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them I really can't get into agreed.
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Then there's Sarah Morgan. She writes like romance of
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course. Okay.
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And then a list of Valdez. She writes more in my opinion,
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like cultural, like he doesn't have the Latin culture.
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Does she not? Yes, she does.
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The very first book I read about her was that actually an
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advanced readers copy of Dirty Girls social club and actually
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when it came out I bought it and I reread it and there wasn't
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anything different. But sometimes I tell you an
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advanced reader copies that the story can change there might be
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grammatical error or such and such, you know, and actually
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she's going to have a new series which comes out in April.
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It's called the Jody Luna. The series and it's about a game
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warden. So she were I would say maybe
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yeah she tells right in the Latino culture or Latino culture
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but she also I would call her more like magical realism kind
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of hoping because there's another favorite book of her
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another book. That's my favorite called the
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temptation of the mutual. Neutral this vehicle.
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And that book is about this yellow, gal who's being watched
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over by kind of like boy angel. It's I don't know how to
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describe it, exactly. But it's a really, really good
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book. So incorporates a little bit of
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fantasy kind of into it. Yeah, kind of like, Marquez.
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Have you guys read him? Mmm.
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Yeah. Like, gosh, I'm trying to think
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what he writes but I can't think right now.
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Now I'm sure it was a book that you like to the one of the boy
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in Italy who goes on to be the opera singer.
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Oh yeah. That's the mentor is book.
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That one is cry to Heaven. Yes.
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Okay. Yes.
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She's the one. That's the real.
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One of my favorites is a really, really good book.
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Yes. That one's a good book.
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There's so many I can Think of which ones will and that's
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about. That's when, you know, you're
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talking to somebody who is truly a lover of reading it's because
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it's almost like you ask, the question and your brain gets
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flooded in. All you see as a whole bunch of
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author's names and not in order, and thanks such true.
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And you don't just strictly, read, fiction or that right?
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You read some other. No biggie.
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Yeah, I read nonfiction a really good one that I really enjoyed
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was a Danny Trejo. Oh look, I can't remember the
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full title, but basically it's about his life and it just
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explains so much about him and I'm like, wow, this is amazing.
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Because right now like towards the end of his book, He's a
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horse he talks about how he got into acting and want not a my
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opinion, it was like pure luck but somebody might have a
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different perception of that and he was in prison and he just
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told his story really but towards the end it was like this
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is really amazing because he actually founded some like
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programs for like recovery for addicts.
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Mmm, Yeah. And he also now has Taco chain
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of restaurants and stuff like that.
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Did you also read? Of course you read Dolly.
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You read Elvira. I know Yeah.
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Sandra Peterson. Yes, Elvira.
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His you like autobiographies to because you read Jackie Chan.
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Yes. Jackie Chan's was really good.
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I enjoyed that. I haven't read that one about
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that. Person that popped up, that
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one's good really interesting. Background talks about his
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upbringing, I read Ozzy. Osbourne's was phenomenal to
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just simply do the fact that he's so brutally honest, he
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doesn't lie everything he did. He just kind of puts out there
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which was You know to see where he started in that whole life
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and then where he ended up. And so I think autobiographies
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oftentimes really do have that ability also to inspire people,
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you know like with the book you were talking about even though
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he had this adversity of you know being in prison and all
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those things coming out of it and then giving back to the
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community all right and all of those things that are I think
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are really important. It was like what do we learn
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from you know, right from those Frances that we have and then we
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can share them then, maybe that Inspire somebody else, you know?
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Yeah, the kind and I'm going forward with it, you know, like
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these days, I tend to read a lot of like self-help.
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I guess inspirational kind of books and that, and I enjoy that
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the most right now. But I mean, I like reading some
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nonfiction and that, but I think that the books that I'm reading
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now, I just feel like that, they they have really helped feed my
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soul in a way, you know. Oh, so I just think that
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valuable everything is so valuable anyway.
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For many, many different reasons like you said, sometimes it's
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about a mental vacation and sometimes it's about getting
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yourself centered, there's just so many reasons.
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Well, I think that's the really cool thing is that there is a
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book for every occasion. There is a book for every mood
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that, you know what I mean? It's kind of like music to me.
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It's kind of along those same lines of because there's so much
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that you can get from them. And you know, I mean, we read a
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lot of Eckhart Tolle. You know, which, but we've read
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the secret. We rolled around about run Burns
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Burns. Just a whole bunch of different
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things like that Joan. Oh however you say her that,
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she's the nun who writes a lot of books, chidester she
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disturbed that was a really great read.
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And she's that is not a book that I typically would have
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picked out to begin with. She's a nun, I picked it out for
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her because I thought it was time.
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She learned a little Catholicism.
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Nope. I just did I read the back of it
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and I thought this is a book that I think if Christy reads
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it's really going to inspire her.
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Yeah and I really feel like it did.
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Have you read that Sandra? No I haven't.
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It's really good. She's a good author and it was
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really interesting to hear her perspective.
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Yeah and that's why I think there's a lot of those different
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things I'm going to switch gears just a little bit here because
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everybody out there who listens to our podcast, you will hear us
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mention Sandra often part of it. Because Sandra is who we
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vacation with and Christy and I were talking the other day, and
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we said, you know, fluffy has motto, Dean, you know, and we
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decided, you know, we don't have modified Dean, we have
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professors and ra, because you've been such an amazing
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friend to us and stuff like that.
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And and we love to travel. Yeah.
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But Center also travels with books?
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Yeah. And, and you didn't mention when
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we were in Amsterdam. I want in book store, and I
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bought Book. Yes.
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Yes, you did. She will find a book store
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anywhere and she will buy a book.
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Yep, that's true. Well, yeah.
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And you expand your mind so much.
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And even, you know, I think sometimes reading can go
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hand-in-hand with travel. Yes, you can do it while you
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travel but, you know, it just takes your mind to different
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places. One of the books that I just
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recommended to you and I know you read or was reading, was
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Josh Gates book Destination Truth.
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And how much travel He does in that book, it tells me which
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places I don't want to go to. If you have not read Destination
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Truth you have to read it people.
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But of course, Then There Are Places in there.
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It's like, wow, I need to go there exactly.
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He talks about what's really great about his book and if you
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haven't read the book, he does the series to its.
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You can find it somewhere. I'm sure.
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Netflix, whatever place, they how's it now, but it's really
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cool. Because even in his book when he
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writes, he writes about those experiences in a way, I think
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that you actually feel like you're right there with him and
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he's so passionate about travel. Yes.
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And I think when you read a book from an author who you can feel
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that passion come through, does that make sense?
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Yeah. Most definitely because it shows
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in their writing. It shows how they analogize like
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compare things. Things and they're like, it's
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like this kind of I don't know how to explain that.
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It's more like a feel that you get.
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Yes. You know.
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And it's true. And like I said, whenever we
24:08
vacation was Sandra, we know her suitcase probably has half books
24:11
for all. We know, I don't care if I don't
24:16
carry at least. I tried to carry at least one
24:19
paper back. That's not too big and my
24:22
Kindle. Yeah.
24:24
Because we'll be out in the Will and you'll turn around look and
24:27
Sanders reading reading by the pool.
24:30
That's true which know what we're good with, you know, it's
24:37
vacation. You do it ever reset you on your
24:41
vacation and force. I don't want to read it the
24:43
Boost in the pool because I'm afraid, I'll drop it in the
24:45
water and that's a no for me. No, because you're kind of not
24:50
interesting but you have a thing about book is very particular
24:53
about them, right? Yes, I am.
24:56
Because day before yesterday I bought a book, I can't tell you
24:59
the title right now because it's a new one.
25:01
I just discovered, I haven't read it yet because I'm
25:04
currently reading something else.
25:05
But that won't keep me from reading it because I might start
25:09
it in a while anyhow. I had bought it during my lunch
25:14
hour at work. I came back and one of my
25:16
co-workers. So I had bought a book and she's
25:19
very much a reader as well, and she's always giving me book
25:22
recommendations and whatnot. And She's like, look how Mike
25:30
just look at her. Like don't touch my book and
25:33
this like let me see it. And I know I probably offended
25:36
her but they had just eaten lunch so I don't know what she
25:40
has on her hands. So I said are your hands clean
25:44
and I know she got kind of sad about it.
25:46
She looked at her hands and she's like, yeah, they're clean.
25:49
I said, okay, here you go. And I said, and don't break The
25:52
Binding because people just open those books in right away.
25:56
I can see that binding breaking and you know what, if it's your
25:59
book great, but if it's mine, do not break that binding.
26:04
And so she took the book and she was very gentle with it.
26:08
But then I felt kind of bad afterwards but not too bad
26:11
because it is my book of your priorities, definitely.
26:18
Also even with your books, you don't bend the pages.
26:21
You don't you know you always use a bookmark even if it's
26:25
Receipt or paper bookmark. You even say you were a little
26:29
disappointed because you had ordered a book from Amazon and
26:33
when it came it was not exactly pristine.
26:36
Well you know I ordered that run Rose run Dolly Parton and James
26:41
Patterson book and everything looks brand new sets on once.
26:47
I open the cover, you could tell whoever handled the book had
26:50
grease on the hand and I'm not tactic talking like food, Kris,
26:53
I'm talking like Greece home of Oil and I'm like I can maybe
26:57
just try to read this. I try to read it but there was
27:00
no way I had to get an exchange once again that really does Show
27:08
Your Love of books because when we love something we take care
27:12
of it. Yeah.
27:13
Yeah true. I mean when I read for the
27:16
crawdads thing I bought the size.
27:20
That's not a trade paper size or mass Market was like the
27:23
in-between, the baby. Like long ones, I don't know if
27:27
you guys have seen those, their kind of Polish and they look
27:31
like Mass Market, but the difference is their tallish, and
27:35
they're smaller like that, but when I read it, I was really
27:40
disappointed because yes, I did kind of break The Binding on it
27:44
because that's the only way I could read it, but I didn't like
27:48
break it right away on purpose. It was just as I read it.
27:51
Oh yeah. Okay.
27:52
And I'm like, oh my God, this is why I don't buy.
27:55
By this particular size of book. Yes, that is very particular on
28:00
that. I know that like if you have a
28:03
certain series or whatever that you want to get, I know
28:06
sometimes you look for because sometimes they're released with
28:08
different covers and those kinds of Sleeping Beauty.
28:20
It has a particular my box as a particular cover art on it.
28:25
Huh, and actually, it's more for lack of words like, erotic, kind
28:32
of art, or, or maybe risque. I don't know which word to use.
28:36
But anyway, yeah. But anyway, that was my cover
28:39
art on my box set and, you know, you see them like at Walmart or
28:43
whatever. Now and they just have words,
28:46
they don't have like pictures, right?
28:49
Like actual cover. So I had lent the second one to
28:54
a former coworker, And when I asked for it back, she never
29:00
told me right away. I don't know if it's the truth
29:03
or not, but whatever. She's like, oh, I'll get it back
29:06
to you because I was going to start another job, a new job.
29:10
And I waiting waiting, she told me all these things like, oh,
29:14
I'll leave it at my husband's Grandma's house.
29:17
I went to a collective. The ground was like, I don't
29:20
have anything so I sent her a message.
29:24
Where's my book? You know, Not exactly like that.
29:27
And I was in means, actually, because I really like this gal
29:32
and she's like, well, I have to order you a new one.
29:36
Should get there? Of course, I never got there cuz
29:40
I don't think she ever ordered it, but then she says in the
29:43
end, the dog ate it, and I'm like, okay, why didn't you tell
29:48
me that in the first place? I mean.
29:53
Do you love books? I know, right.
29:55
Right. So then I actually just posted a
29:58
thing picture. I think of the cover are like on
30:01
social media and I'm like, does anybody know where I can get
30:08
this? And I was very surprised and
30:12
very grateful, my cousin found it on eBay and she bought it for
30:16
me, and it's in the condition. I had it.
30:19
So, I'm so grateful. Now, I have a complete box
30:22
again. What the same cover art?
30:25
Yeah, but you know, I get it there.
30:29
I collect Patricia Cornwell and I have all of hers in hardback.
30:36
Hmm, I like that series. That way.
30:39
Now I have Dean Koontz in his kind of a montage of different
30:44
format. Yes, and but Patricia Cornwell,
30:48
I like curves and hardback and I even if I read them, you know,
30:52
and we'll go through and we'll say, oh, we got to kind of
30:54
downsizing Eyes a little bit. And I can recycle I can do that
30:58
with some books, but not hers. There are certain authors.
31:01
Laurel K Hamilton. I have her series.
31:04
I just really like it. I like the style of writing or
31:07
whatever it is and sometimes it's the are on the, like, you
31:10
say the cover art, I just really like that.
31:13
Yeah, I think I prefer the paperback the best, but but
31:19
that's because you read while you're on the bike.
31:21
And I think that's probably a lot of times I read when I'm on
31:23
the spin bike. So yeah.
31:25
It's just, I've always try to read a book while I'm on the
31:30
stationary bike. I just can't seem to manage it.
31:34
I love it because it takes my mind off.
31:36
What I'm doing so. Well, my mind works differently
31:41
than because I can't seem to manage it and I will keep stop
31:45
pedaling and read That's counterproductive, all right, as
31:51
opposed to, if I'm on a treadmill that's kind of
31:54
different. I can actually Lee.
31:56
I don't know. For some reason I think maybe
31:57
I'm afraid to fall. That's might be it.
32:06
I guess reading whenever you can you know I think it's really the
32:10
key thing. And you know, I often talk about
32:12
this, you know? I just I feel like I've been to
32:15
therapist for 20 plus years and you when I talked with some of
32:17
the kids, how many of them don't like to read and I just blows my
32:21
mind, that's one of the things like even with our godchild
32:25
During their two girls, we always try to get them books you
32:30
know and because we want them to like books and be inspired to
32:36
read. I think we if you don't start
32:39
with them young then you know it doesn't I don't know if it if it
32:43
catches on with him. Yeah I don't think it solidifies
32:46
quite the same way but I also think once again it's what we
32:49
role model and I was I was telling Christie I was really
32:52
cool because I was talking to one of my I don't see kids but I
32:54
have Have some teens that I'm finishing up with I'll finish
32:58
them into adulthood. I don't know.
33:00
You know, well, we'll just know what it in and but we were
33:03
talking and she was telling me this week, she goes.
33:05
Yes. Because after read a book and I
33:07
said, what are you reading hunting?
33:08
She Goes To Kill a Mockingbird. I said, oh my goodness.
33:12
I love that book. And she says, well, I didn't
33:15
think I was going to she says, but, you know, it's actually an
33:18
all right book and I got it. Did it just made me so happy.
33:24
I think it's because Sometimes you're forced to read those
33:27
books that you don't realize you're going to like, you know,
33:33
and it kind of opens your eyes up to.
33:36
I remember, when I read To Kill a Mockingbird, I had never read
33:39
a book where they talked in the dialect of the place that it was
33:43
written, you know, where they grew up, you know, in the South,
33:45
It Was Written in that southern dialect and stuff, and I thought
33:48
that was so cool, you know, that's how Shepherd of the Hills
33:52
is. Mmm.
33:53
Yeah, it's written in that dialect.
33:54
So You know, I think that there's so many things that can
33:57
help inspire people to read, but it starts, I think when we
34:03
really instilled that in kids and help them to understand the
34:06
value of it. I mean, I think that's kind of
34:08
cool, how you said that about your niece.
34:10
She wanted so bad to know what the video games were saying.
34:13
Well, I'll show you all learn to read on my own.
34:17
I think some people may not enjoy reading or want to read
34:22
because they haven't found the book that is for them.
34:25
This is very true, you really have to kind of fight to say
34:29
that because like I was never a sci-fi fantasy person back in
34:36
the day, my supervisor, because I would have had to bookstore
34:40
actually gave me a book called The bomba twin and I was like, I
34:48
can't get into this. I try to give it back to her.
34:51
It's like, no, no, try again, try.
34:53
Again, 30 pages. Get back to.
34:55
I just can't get into this. So then she gives it back.
35:00
She's like, read at least, 100 150 pages.
35:03
And oh, my God, by then I'm like, I love this.
35:08
Why have I never read sci-fi fantasy?
35:12
Sometimes somebody just has to point the way that or you have
35:17
to find the book that's for you, you know?
35:20
Yes, it's sometimes it's what you're in the mood for whatever
35:22
to and I you've gifted me a lot of books.
35:24
Do you know that? Like, like Supernatural and
35:29
ghost story kind of books, especially if they're based on
35:32
the state where we live, I like the ones about called
35:34
especially, but we have found some really cool ones.
35:39
You know, when I think about role modeling, you know, my mom
35:41
was an Avid Reader. Oh my goodness.
35:43
She loved Louis L'Amour, she read romance.
35:46
My dad thought so much. He loved Comics.
35:49
He grew up with comics and stuff and I remember one day I went to
35:52
visit and he's sitting there to go.
35:55
Ghost. Hey, that's a pretty good book.
35:58
And I said, well book and it was the Body Farm by Patricia
36:01
Cornwell. I had actually left my book
36:03
there. Oh here it it gonna go.
36:06
Dad, you did not read that book. He goes, oh yes!
36:09
I did! I said Dad, we're going to have.
36:11
Okay, tell me about the book and he does I said you actually read
36:15
this book. Yeah, I did.
36:19
But you know, it was such it was so cool for me to be able to
36:23
talk with him about a book. Because he was not he didn't
36:28
rebook, it just was not his things, he would read magazines
36:31
and things like that, but not books.
36:34
But I have another funny story about my dad, my dad at my
36:36
parents come to visit me and I was reading a book, it happened
36:39
to be a lesbian book. While I left it on my count on
36:42
my coffee table, and I went in, I'm doing stuff, and when I come
36:47
back out, he's holding the book, reading it.
36:49
He just opened, and he puts the book down, and he looks at my
36:53
mom and I walk out. And he goes to my mom, honey.
36:57
You wouldn't believe the book she reads.
37:19
I think that your passion for reading.
37:22
I do not think I have met anybody in my life who To read
37:26
as much as you and who has this relationship with books because
37:30
of what a book provides for you. Yeah, it's such an amazing thing
37:35
and like I said, people I say, hey Sandra, can we do a book
37:39
club and the answer? Yes, we can.
37:41
But, you know, it never happens because Sandra reads, three
37:44
books. At one time, I have to say,
37:48
she's kind of been a bad influence on me because now I'm
37:52
reading a new Earth. I'm reading the doll.
37:55
We booked and Patterson's book called the same time now.
38:01
But do you ever find like when you read three or four weeks at
38:05
a time? It's like okay.
38:07
Wait a minute, I really want to read this one because you know,
38:12
that kind of thing like so and Bishop, there's a series, the
38:18
other world. I think it's called and I've
38:21
been reading the third book in the series for a long time now
38:25
because I just don't want it to end, even though there's like
38:27
five or six books, why just been out?
38:32
You, you gave me when we were dragons.
38:34
I think it is. There like it turned out to be a
38:37
really, really good book and just amazing.
38:40
And I always appreciate that because every once in a while,
38:43
she'll say, have you read this book?
38:45
Do you like it? And I'll say it.
38:46
Well, I don't know and then I'm not going.
38:48
I'll say yeah, that doesn't she sounds pretty good.
38:49
And then, you know, here comes the book, you know, one of the
38:53
things I think is kind of funny. Is when I did give you that book
38:57
you assumed I had read it, but I haven't read it and you told me
39:00
it was good, so I put all my to be read list.
39:02
Yeah, yeah, it's called when women were dragons and yeah, we
39:08
really should. It's actually a really good
39:10
book. Yeah, don't worry.
39:12
It's on my list. I understand people.
39:15
I also know that this might mean that Sandra and I will be
39:17
talking about this book in about six or eight months true, very
39:22
true because I can't even get her to finish the James.
39:25
Are some books so we can talk about what?
39:28
No, I already finished it. You're the one who's still
39:30
reading it. Oh, you did finish it.
39:33
Yeah, I just need to reread it when you finish your book.
39:37
That way I can know what the heck we're talking about.
39:39
Although I already know what we're talking about.
39:42
Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I'm about, okay, see
39:45
ya. It's a good thing you did.
39:46
Yeah, I finish it. When I finished it before you
39:48
started it, I think. Oh my goodness.
39:52
So now you're the one that needs to.
39:53
Okay, it's a good thing we had This podcast people so I could
39:56
find out what I need to do. I will be finishing the James
40:01
Patterson book before I finish a new Earth and I got to read a
40:05
new Earth again so that Christy and I can talk about it and
40:08
Kathy G were gonna we had an extra books over and give it to
40:11
her. So we can kind of have a little
40:12
book club and talked about it. And I think that's what's really
40:15
cool is when you can read those books in the you can exchange
40:18
that information with somebody else.
40:19
You know what I mean? Yeah.
40:20
So I guess I'll do that with movies.
40:22
That's one of the things that we love about reading.
40:25
As we like, to talk about them and, you know, share our
40:28
thoughts on them, and we've talked about in the past on
40:31
podcast that Sharon, and I sometimes will pick a book and
40:34
read it together. Read it to each other.
40:36
We take turns and we pause a lot of times and, you know, talk
40:41
about some of the ideas in it. So, yeah.
40:44
I think everybody should. I do try to read it to the dog
40:49
Daisy but she doesn't respond. When I ask questions she just
40:53
degrees kind of, you know, No, but does he at least listen?
40:57
Oh yeah most definitely she's very intently listening actually
41:02
and cool so that you do have a reading buddy.
41:07
Yes, you know and like I said, you know, we share the passion
41:11
of reading and shift a little bit.
41:14
We also share a passion of travel.
41:16
You love to travel, you know, one of the things I thought was
41:19
really cool. Is that when you went to
41:20
Morocco, And I was such a Fast Trip.
41:24
Yeah. It was about a week it was
41:26
during the Christmas season and what 2016 I believe.
41:30
Mmm. Yeah, so what's really cool
41:34
about? So I guess I'm going to
41:36
backtrack a little bit but looks are kind of like movies and if
41:40
you travel even if a book is fiction a lot of these authors
41:46
still research stuff and like when I'm writing a book like for
41:52
Listen Sara Maria. And she writes about romance in
41:56
New York and stuff like that and I'm like oh I'm gonna write this
42:00
down then IMA look it up. If it's a real place, I like to
42:03
go there someday. Yeah.
42:06
And then two movies are kind of like books in the sense that if
42:11
you travel, if you watch a movie, you like, oh wow, I've
42:14
been there and you can stay the same thing about books and you
42:19
can even say that if you haven't been there, because For you've
42:22
been there in your mind by reading that book.
42:24
Yeah, exactly. And you know, that's we do that,
42:27
you know, because our we went to Europe with you and so
42:31
oftentimes even if we're watching a movie or something.
42:33
Oh my God, we were there. Yeah, well, you know, things
42:36
like that so it's it's really cool.
42:38
It causes it to be more of a relationship in a weird way.
42:42
Well yeah. I think there is it books, and
42:45
travel really do go kind of hand in hand.
42:47
When you think about it, thank you say, the way you the way you
42:49
put that. That's true.
42:51
And I Oh, that one of the trips that we've talked about taking
42:54
we want to go to New Zealand. At some point, we are big fans
42:59
of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.
43:01
Those are really near and dear to us.
43:05
So we want to go and and do the whole hobbiton tour and all of
43:10
that and I think that that would be so cool.
43:13
I watched that movie and I just I think oh man to see the Shire
43:17
how cool would that be? You know and you know the other
43:21
cool thing about When we travel is Sandra, you're very easy to
43:24
travel with, but one of the things we really appreciated
43:27
was, you know, we went to Paris, you know, we're talking about
43:30
this and, you know, Sanders doing her research because we
43:32
plan all of our stuff. We don't go through travel
43:34
agents or anything, and you came back, he said, hey can we do a
43:37
food tour? I mean, we had never even
43:39
thought about it and then you talk about the evening menu or
43:42
they're like, nope, we're not going to eat escargot and not
43:48
know you suggested the the lunch one it was real.
43:52
Really cool. I really felt like it was one of
43:54
the highlights of the trip. Yeah.
43:56
So I think sometimes, you know, even in that, you know, you
43:59
learn about the cultures and you learn about the different
44:02
things, and, and then when you do read those books and they're
44:05
talking about those cultural components, it makes more sense.
44:09
It reinforces, I should say because you've had that
44:12
experience, girl. So, you know, I mean, I think
44:16
those things are so cool and I think that, you know, when you
44:18
have a passion like, reading and traveling, I mean, and then You
44:22
like in food because we talk a lot about food to suffering
44:38
but we do we go. We talk about food, you know,
44:40
and we're, you know, we're in Europe.
44:42
We talked a lot about the food. We would look at the food, they
44:45
do it sober, D, hahaha, and then passing all the pastry places.
44:51
Oh, yeah. You got to stop in there.
44:55
You like ice cream? So, yeah, that was kind of a
44:58
cool thing to when we were in Europe, you would say, oh no,
45:01
let's do this. And we and we were there to go,
45:03
get, we're on vacation, we're going to do this.
45:05
And so we got all those experiences to, you know?
45:09
So I mean it's just overall. I think that we get, it's so
45:13
cool in our friendship and we talked about the importance of
45:15
building relationships and keeping those relationships and
45:19
finding those commonalities that help too.
45:22
It reinforced those relationships and build that
45:24
stronger Bond and I felt like it was great.
45:27
We got to bond over Nutella ice cream and Amsterdam.
45:30
That was great. I can't share my book with you
45:36
that I bought from there because it is in Spanish.
45:41
That's actually cool. You you read your mind angle so
45:44
you read in Spanish teacher. It takes me a little while, but
45:48
I can do it. So, you know, there's a Well, as
45:52
we're getting ready to wrap up hopefully people understand, you
45:55
know one of the reasons that it was fun for us to do this is
45:57
because we really do want to encourage reading.
46:01
We want to encourage parents to read, to their children, and all
46:04
of those things because it's such an important thing.
46:07
It takes like you said, it's an Escape, but it takes you into
46:11
these other worlds in these other places.
46:14
And I think it inspires us. Sometimes, you can read those
46:17
books that about inspiration, you can read those books, that
46:20
are funny, can read those books that are Is that it is wide
46:23
range or that are even about memories like you said.
46:26
And you know about here, you hearing my mom's doing the
46:31
voices of the book. Yeah.
46:32
You know from when I was younger there's there's just so many
46:35
reasons that reading is valuable.
46:37
Yeah, well for instance, where I live Elmo, so there's much not
46:41
much diversity. So I have to read to get that.
46:45
You have another, that's another thing.
46:47
It's that diversity, it's learning cultures, there's just
46:51
so much to do. So hopefully, you know, as
46:54
you're listening to this podcast today if if you are a lover of
46:58
books that makes you just love and appreciate a more.
47:00
If you're kind of riding the fence, it inspires you to pick
47:04
up a book and to read it in to take a journey.
47:07
Go on this amazing journey and see what you can find and
47:11
encourage children to read because once again it can help
47:16
them if they're having different stuff going on.
47:18
It does become that escape. So Sandra We want to thank you
47:23
so much for joining us and talking about your passion of
47:26
reading. And I think the listeners are
47:29
going to really hear that passion with you and, you know,
47:33
and hopefully it inspires somebody to pick up a book in to
47:37
read. You know, if anybody want that
47:40
doesn't like to read and they haven't gotten it into reading,
47:44
I will help you become a reader. There you go.
47:48
I will send you a book. There you go.
47:52
And I expect nothing in return. Awesome.
47:56
That's a true lover reader. So once again we want to thank
48:01
Sandra for being on here. We will be back next week and
48:06
thank you. Hope you enjoyed the episode and
48:09
be kind and good to each other and read a book.