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Paul-Tyson and Latino Night · Boxing B-Sides

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The B-side and boxing.
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B-side shit.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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And the B-side.
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You gotta B-side.
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The B-side.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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That B-side thing.
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This is the B-Sides boxing podcast.
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Time to fucking boogie.
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Boxing B-sides.
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Does the B in B-side stand for boogie?
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The boogie sides?
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Drip not on the boogie sides?
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I think that's a good one.
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Maybe not.
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Nice.
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Are we back in the 80s?
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Yes.
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70s.
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We're trying to get those disco balls.
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Louis in the news.
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Man, we're here to talk a whole lot of boxing.
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We're going to get ourselves back onto our old rhythm here.
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So let's get right into the fucking deal,
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because we got a lot.
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For now, Conor Ben is cleared to fight in the UK again.
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Just thought I'd tell him.
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You know, I was thinking about it.
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What if Conor Ben had been banished from the UK,
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was fighting and living probably, and fighting in the US,
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and then people were bitching about egg prices,
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and now Conor Ben is leaving, are egg prices going to go down?
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Less demand, the supply will be able to cover it now.
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Yeah, now that Ben's not here.
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Somebody did the math, he had to be eating like 30 eggs a day or whatever.
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Not unfeasible, but that's also like kind of dumb.
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Fucking gross.
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Yeah, he would be massive if he was eating 30 eggs a day.
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30 eggs and his cholesterol.
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He would smell bad.
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Yeah.
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Oh, egg farts, bros.
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Yep, so Conor Ben cleared to compete again in the UK.
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So like good riddance.
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Good thing you're going back.
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I guess.
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Listen, man, he's exciting.
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Yeah, I guess.
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He's just down to scrap and bang, like no real technique or anything,
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just power and throwing punches.
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He's an exciting guy to watch.
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I think I'll admit that.
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Yeah, for sure.
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It's just like being matched with the right competition.
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It's usually not great.
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That's where he shines the most.
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I feel like boxing.
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He's exciting for boxing.
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I'll say that, like as much as he sucks and as annoying as he is,
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you just need that one guy who just is down to stand there
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and throw punches with power and hope for the best.
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Yeah, I would like him a lot more if he wasn't such an ass outside of the ring.
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Yeah, I mean, he is kind of a douchebag.
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Yeah, that's always that's really the only problem with it is, yes,
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you're right, like that type of figure, the in-ring performance type,
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even if it's not super high quality, nonetheless, it's entertaining and exciting.
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It seems to me that he thinks he's gotten to where he is strictly on his own merits.
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And that's absolutely not the case.
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That's why I don't like him.
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Yeah.
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Fucking douchebag riding his father's coattails.
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He's such a nepo baby.
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Yeah, like dudes that are like one that comes to mind that fits this motif very well
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is a while ago, Ruslan Provodnikov.
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He was a guy that did not give a shit about anything but punishing you.
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That was it. That's all he wanted to do.
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And it was great. He's a fan favorite.
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Everybody loved him.
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He was a little bit of a character out of the ring, but it wasn't, I don't know, of arrogance.
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He's still a little eccentric.
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So, I don't know, there's, I guess, different types.
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Yeah, and sometimes you just don't like people because you don't like people.
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Speaking of unlikable people, let's move into some recaps here.
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Friday, November 15th.
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That's how far back we're going for this one.
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This was the Jake Paul Mike Tyson card in Dallas, Texas.
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Yes, let's just kick it off here.
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This one, I don't recall much, Niraj Goyat, UD over Winterson Nunes.
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I remember it being super boring and Niraj being, I don't know, really showy,
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even though he wasn't really doing anything.
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Yeah, showboating for no reason.
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Right. And apparently he has like a lot.
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I think he's getting into seven digits of a social media following in India.
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So I guess congrats on that.
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I don't know, maybe if you're going to box, try being good at it.
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Just a suggestion. Yeah.
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Moving up, Bruce Carrington, UD over Dana Coolwell.
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This was an eight rounder and I was a little bit disappointed with Bruce Carrington's performance.
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Given what we have, what I've come to expect of him,
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I admit that my expectations are built a little bit on like media hype.
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But he did seem to have the goods, right?
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There was substance to all of the shit that people were saying about him.
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But this one, like question mark, who the fuck is Dana Coolwell?
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You're going down to an eight rounder.
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You say because you want to be on the Tyson card because you're from the same part of Brooklyn that he is.
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Very cool story. But this is not the type of shit you should be taking to decision.
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Just my thoughts. Anyone else?
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I agree. Yeah, it was disappointing for the hype around Bruce Carrington.
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Yeah, I want to I don't want to be too hard on him for it.
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It could be jitters. It's very possible.
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This is the biggest card he's ever been on.
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Got to give him a one time pass. Sure. Yeah.
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You have enough night. It happens. It fucking happens to everyone.
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So it's fine. Not well.
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We'll see how you how you carry on from here.
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Well, and he did win. Right. Like convincingly, it's not like it was close.
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It was just I was expecting this is the type of shit you should be.
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Yeah, you should be ending this early.
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It's really what it was. Mm hmm.
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This one, I can't recall Shadasha Green split decision over Melinda Wattpool.
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Yeah, I don't remember anything about this.
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I can't recall that at all.
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What's that Lucas body majority decision over Armando Casamonica
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coming off of that Ashton Silve knockout, that like scary one where it's weird.
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I think that this was it expanded on what was happening in the Silve fight,
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which was he was losing until he won.
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And it seems like that Armando was able to kind of replicate
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that success a little bit that Ashton was having without getting caught,
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you know, overextending.
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And Lucas doesn't get I don't think he gets a pass for this one.
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The writing is on the wall, in my opinion.
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It's been written on there, but he's plateauing of it.
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I think so. Or showing his limitations.
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And they seem pretty steep.
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It's not something I think he's going to overcome very, very easily.
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I have to admit, I don't remember this one much either.
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It's been a while.
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There's somebody in Discord that just loves Lucas body.
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And I don't know why.
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I did.
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That's odd person to be a fan of.
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Yeah. I mean, we all have our odd fixations.
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I have. I get it.
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I get it.
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I'm a Nick Ball fan.
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Well, Nick Ball's crossed into the mainstream, I would say.
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I was Nick Ball fan before that.
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You remember you were you were all there.
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You were all there. We were.
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We have the seats.
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We have the receipts in the fucking the tapes.
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You were there before. It was cool to like Nick Ball.
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Man, after the little roundup we did,
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we stayed back and talked afterwards about some of these top three fights.
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Mario Barrios split draw with Abel Ramos for this was the WBC.
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Walter Wey title was on the line.
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Barrios like, what the fuck is this very cool to put on a very entertaining fight
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and in front of such a big crowd. Awesome.
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But if you're supposed to be the welterweight champion,
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one of the welterweight champions, like, what the fuck is this?
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Abel Ramos is long removed from his best days,
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which weren't that great to begin with.
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So yeah, I think Barrios has just put a target on his back with this performance.
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Everybody's going to want a shot at his belt now.
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Unfortunate for him.
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He's going to get paid like and he can choose probably between a few people.
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Yeah, I was thinking like of the people who should who I think should get priority
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would be the other three titleists and Stan Jonas is part of the PBC stable as well.
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So that one would be the easiest one.
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Brian Norman with top rank and then Boots with match room.
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Not so much still.
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I also kind of like that this was on this card because it was an all action fight
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that was close. Like it's it's a good fight for casuals and Mario Barrios
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always has great walkouts.
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A few of my casual friends were sending me like, what the fuck is this?
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This is awesome type.
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Yeah, that's that's how we do it.
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That's how Barrios does it anyway.
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Sometimes the theatrics are cool if they're done properly.
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I always like his walkouts.
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Yeah, that's just me.
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Makes me think of the the UFC light heavyweight champ, Alex Pajero.
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He does like an Amazonian kind of thing.
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Yeah, it really reminds me of Camacho.
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Good one.
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Like I always assumed Mario Barrios was a Camacho fan.
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Yeah, that would make a lot of sense in more ways than just the walkout.
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Moving up, Katie Taylor gets the UD over Amanda Serrano.
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You were both saying you thought Katie Taylor was that was the right decision.
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Am I recalling that correctly?
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I had Katie winning.
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OK.
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Like really close.
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But I think on my scorecard, it was she won by one round.
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Like I agreed with one of the judges.
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Yeah, I can't be too hard on the decision, even though it didn't go the way that I thought it should have.
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Because like you had said, it was really close.
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Katie Taylor getting the nod this time isn't it's not a robbery just because you don't like the decision.
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The fight's really close and it's exciting.
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And the person that you want to win loses doesn't make it a robbery.
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Amanda didn't get robbed.
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Sorry.
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There's a lot of headbutts.
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Yes, she did get docked a point for them, though.
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So not sure.
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What else you want? You want her to get disqualified?
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I don't think they were bad enough to get this call.
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No, they weren't.
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No, I think I said this the other day, but that's how Katie Taylor fights.
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Yes.
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And like Amanda Serrano was doing nothing to avoid the headbutts.
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She was also coming in headfirst constantly.
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Katie Taylor must just have the best skin in boxing because I don't think she's ever been cut from a headbutt.
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I can't recall if she has off the top of my head.
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But yeah, not.
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That cut was gross though.
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It was.
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The Amanda Serrano cut.
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Yes.
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Cut.
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I did not enjoy that.
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I really think they probably could have stopped that fight early over that cut.
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Yeah, would have ended up going the same way regardless of when it was stopped if it had been.
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I think there's two factors at play here that I don't know if they can be compared to.
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Here that I don't know if they cancel each other out, but drip one of them that you had mentioned that like a Serrano when when you're not sure who to score how to score it.
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People tend to favor whoever is being more aggressive and that might be what why people were upset that Serrano lost.
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But on the other hand, people who are cut and bleeding tend to get scored against because the cut the blood looks bad on you.
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So I'm not sure what do you make of those two factors?
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I mean, they definitely score damage.
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But also, I mean that damage from my head.
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Was the damage from a head butt or is it accidental?
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Like, yeah, that's a head butt, right?
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Yeah, I mean, but Taylor definitely targeted it afterwards.
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah.
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I mean, any good boxer.
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You would.
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What did you have to report?
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The thing is like Amanda was just hitting leather.
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Like she looked like she was doing a lot, but at the end of the day, she wasn't really doing much.
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I think the first round where she rocked Kate Taylor that was probably her best round.
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But maybe a second was pretty good too, I guess.
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But like anything after that, she just walked Kate Taylor would like fell up, you know, cover herself.
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And then Katie would explode, flurry Amanda real quick and piece her up.
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Then they would clinch and reset.
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So even with the point deduction and she still won, it kind of tells you that like Serrano didn't do enough.
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Right.
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Even though it looks like she did, but she wasn't really doing much at all.
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But also you have to look at it from like us, like boxing connoisseurs compared to like the casual viewer.
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They just see Serrano pushing back and don't want a lot of punches at Kate Taylor.
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But what we're seeing is like, yeah, what we're seeing is like, all right, you're hitting all gloves, hitting arm.
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And that's about it.
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Those might be a good strategy.
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Like Canelo did it to Callum Smith, but that's not those aren't scoring shots.
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Yeah, but the thing is like, Canelo Smith didn't flurry and piece up Canelo.
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He just ate the shots, didn't really retaliate.
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Difference is again, Kate Taylor would back up a few steps, wait until Serrano either threw her, I guess, punches
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or she would wait for an opening, just flurry.
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And then she pieced her up a lot.
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Like I think if you watch her back, you'll see Serrano, she got hit a lot towards the middle and late rounds.
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Like she was just getting decked.
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Yeah, Katie had her hurt a couple times.
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Like Serrano was rocked two or three times in those late rounds.
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And I hate that everybody is just talking about the CompuBox numbers.
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As like Drip said, half of those didn't land.
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I don't think there is no way she landed a hundred more punches than Katie Taylor did.
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Even if they did, something to remember is the old Jim Lampley refrain.
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Anytime they when the CompuBox numbers were brought up after any fight on an HBO broadcast,
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you would say this is academic.
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This doesn't fucking count for anything.
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It doesn't matter if you get a hundred more punches.
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Did they hurt Katie Taylor more than Katie Taylor's punches hurt Serrano?
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Probably not. Doesn't seem so anyway.
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I think Katie's punches were much more effective.
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Like Drip said, she maybe didn't land as many, but they were the ones she landed were doing more damage.
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And they were well placed.
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They were more effective, which is one of the scoring criteria.
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Yeah, definitely. It's yeah, it's I don't know.
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Yeah, it didn't go the way I'd hoped, but that shit's not a robbery.
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Okay, moving up to the main event.
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Jake Paul gets the UD over Mike Tyson.
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Eight two-minute rounds.
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How was this a professional match?
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I know we talked about this before, but what the fuck, Texas?
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Yeah, come on.
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Nathan, we were talking about it on MMA show.
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It was that they went to Texas because of how lax their sanctioning is.
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The fighter health testing is just like, are you breathing?
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Is your heart pumping?
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Cool.
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All right.
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Have fun.
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And that's like really it.
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And they picked that.
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So that's why they were there.
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Tyson looked like as far as professional boxing goes, he looked every bit of 60.
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Even though he's a few years shy of it.
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I'm just rounding it up.
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He looked very much like a 60 year old man.
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He was in fantastic shape for a 60 year old man, but that shit's not going to even fucking
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clown like Jake Paul is going to do better than that.
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His upper body movement still fast.
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Yes, but the legs are like, oh, does it does even have legs at this point?
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I was really waiting for him to like stumble and fall trying to move.
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Yeah, it was not a pretty sad state of affairs overall.
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Jake Paul looked fucking terrified, which I don't blame him.
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It's Mike Tyson.
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Yeah, but even at 60 years old, I would probably shit myself walking in like him looking at
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me across the ring like, oh my God, what am I doing here?
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This is a terrible idea.
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I think that's exactly what Jake Paul did.
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That's why he stayed 10 feet away at all times.
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Yeah, that was one of the things that the I'm going to call them out of towners, the
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non boxing media outlets that were covering this.
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People were expecting Mike Tyson to be that same scary guy and he might have looked apart,
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but he didn't.
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He wasn't able to play it anymore.
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I stand by Jake Paul being a net positive from what I've heard.
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Like I saw reports saying that he's done with this boxing clown show stuff.
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That would be good.
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I don't know how true that is, but.
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He seems like a great promoter.
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Yeah, he's a very good promoter.
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Oh, fantastic promoter.
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I think he's done a lot for boxing, honestly.
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Right.
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Net positive.
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New fans, new eyes.
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If he gets 100, we'll just use round numbers, 100 people to watch.
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If 10 of those people become more attached to boxing and if one of those becomes like
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a hardcore fan, that to me is worth it.
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Yeah.
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I think he's definitely turned some of the kids on to boxing, as it were.
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Be good with the Jake Paul shit.
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Sweet man, we put some time on that.
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All right.
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So let's move into Saturday, November 16th.
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This was the Latino night in fucking Saudi Arabia.
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Very interesting placement of that.
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We talked a bit about these.
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They had the dancers.
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I really like the folklorico.
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Yeah.
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Is that the right?
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Yeah, I really like them.
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So one just from the bottom up, because there's actually quite a few interesting fights.
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I have kind of have them out of order here.
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But Ziad Al Mayouf gets the majority draw over Juan Carlos Ramirez.
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Al Mayouf is a Saudi boxer that they're really trying to shoehorn into the whole scene and
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it's not going very well.
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This was not a majority draw, but it's in Saudi Arabia.
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So yeah.
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What can you expect?
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Oscar Duarte.
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This is the same dude I think got beaten by Ryan Garcia a while back.
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Yeah.
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First, Botersone Akhmedov.
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I thought Duarte looked pretty good in this fight, actually.
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He definitely did not look like the same guy who lost to Ryan Garcia.
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Seems like he went back to the lab, put some stuff together.
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So very cool.
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William Zepeda, split decision over Tevin Farmer.
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He got knocked down in the seventh with a just beautifully timed shot.
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I think Tevin Farmer is back.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with Tevin Farmer.
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The Tevin Farmer is fucking back.
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Just like the Murataya one where I was a little bit more, I don't know, leaning more towards
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Murataya.
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This time, I'm not so sure that Zepeda got that one.
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I'm not sure what to make of it.
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Yeah, I think Farmer kind of got fucked, to be honest, which seems to happen to him a
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lot.
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It's unfortunate.
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I hope he's getting paid extra.
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That twitch of his still scares the shit out of me, but I guess I have to take it back.
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The doctors seem to know what they're doing because he looks good.
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But that involuntary twitch is terrifying.
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It's unnerving for sure.
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It looks like a sign of something very serious, but yeah, apparently it's not that big a deal,
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I guess.
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He did take two years afterwards before he really fought anybody, so I guess the doctors
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and trainers and everybody knows what they're doing.
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They are professionals.
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I kind of thought Farmer probably won that one, actually.
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I think he did, too.
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Everybody is saying Zepeda looked like shit.
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I don't think that's true.
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I didn't think he looked like his usual self.
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I just think Farmer looked really good.
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That might be why Zepeda didn't look so great because Tevin Farmer was on point.
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Anyways, I think Farmer won the moral victory on that one at the very least.
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Yep.
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Interim WBC, lightweight titles on the line.
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So this puts Zepeda in line, number one in line for Shakur Stevenson.
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Gross.
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Right.
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I was going to ask, Drip, because one of your local boy, Tevin Farmer, was able to make
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Zepeda look kind of silly.
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Can Shakur Stevenson do the same, given the differences in power disparity, for example?
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Oof.
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Can Shakur...
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Yeah.
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Can Shakur replicate Tevin's performance or do better?
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Probably do better, if that's got to say, right?
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I'm not so sure.
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I don't know, actually.
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Yeah.
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I would say do better.
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I mean, it is Shakur Stevenson.
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As much as he is Shakur, the skills are there.
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As much as he's Shakur, he's still Shakur.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It sounds silly, but yeah.
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I mean, I would say do better, right?
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I don't know if he throws as many punches, though.
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I really don't know how that fight would go.
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I want to say that Zepeda swarms him and eventually catches him with something, and Shakur's chin's
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never been tested, and I kind of assume it's not good.
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But I have nothing to base that on other than Shakur is boring and I don't want to see him
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fight anymore.
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Right.
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It would be a matter of how much danger is he willing to put himself into to secure the
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victory?
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I don't think Shakur is going to put himself in danger.
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I don't think he ever does.
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That's what I was going to go with was he's not the type.
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The only time he'll stand in front of you is if he knows you're not going to hurt him.
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I don't think he'll do that with Zepeda because I think he knows Zepeda could hurt him.
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Right.
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But do you think that fight actually happens now?
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No.
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Zepeda says his hand's broken.
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Shakur says his hand was broken.
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I don't see those guys fighting next year either.
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I was going to say if it's going to happen, it's going to be like late next year.
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If it happens next year at all.
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I think they're both going to fight other people first for sure.
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Exactly.
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They're going to get a comebacks first.
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All right.
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Moving up to Arnold Barbosa gets his respect.
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Give him his respect over Jose Ramirez.
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That was great.
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Barbosa looked better than he did in his Golden Boy debut.
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He looked better than he ever has when he was with top rank.
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Ramirez, is he on the skid because they were talking about him having trouble making 140.
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Might be thinking about moving up.
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I don't know.
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What are we thinking here?
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I honestly had thought Jose Ramirez retired.
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I was surprised when they said he was fighting.
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I don't know why I thought that.
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I just did.
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Well then, Arnold, you're also in a pretty stacked division here.
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Let me pull up some names because he looked great.
24:16
But yeah, Ramirez didn't look like himself.
24:19
So I'm not sure how much to make of it.
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Jack Cattarall.
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I think that's a good name for him.
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Yeah.
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I think he could beat Cattarall.
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I think so too.
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But I think Cattarall could also test him as well, which is important if you want to
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see how high up the ladder you're going to go.
24:36
I got to pull up a picture.
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I forget which one is Barbosa.
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He's the one with the respect.
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The one with all of the respect.
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But why with the respect?
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Yeah, because he made sure that Sergio Mora gave him his respect.
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Which is so fucking random because I don't think Mora ever talks bad about him.
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Yeah, he never said anything.
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So I don't know.
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It's a weird thing.
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Weird thing to be, weird time to be mad, I'll say.
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Yeah, I think if Ramirez wants to do anything, he needs to go up a weight class.
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I wonder if he wasn't a little weight drained.
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They were saying that he had been struggling with 140.
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So it's possible.
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Kind of fought like it.
25:24
Moving up, Oscar Goyaso knocks out CP Freshmart in the seventh to unify the WBA and WBO titles
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for strawweight.
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I'm happy for Colazo, but I'm sad because I really like CP Freshmart.
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You can't be champion forever.
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And eight years is a long time at strawweight.
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And for anyone, for the uninitiated, which is a lot of people when it comes to strawweight,
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he wasn't just some dude sitting in Thailand beating up Bangkok fucking taxi drivers.
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That's not at all what was happening.
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People were coming from all over the world to fight Freshmart and he was beating them
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all.
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He's starting to look old.
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Yeah, he did look his age a bit.
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Like not bad, but you have to be so fast at those small weight classes.
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And he just he couldn't keep up with it anymore, I think.
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Did you watch this one drip?
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I didn't.
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I missed it.
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Yeah, I think a lot of people skipped the flyweight.
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Yeah.
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Bangkok flyweight, strawweight fight, which was a mistake because it was exciting.
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It was actually very, very good.
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Yeah.
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I know that the broadcast was shitting on Freshmart a lot.
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And I really think if anyone should have been yelling, give me my respect, should have been
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Freshmart.
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Yeah.
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Because even though he lost, you're still looking at a very long time, long tenure champion
26:58
who beat a lot of guys, a lot of good competitors.
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So give him his respect.
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This is a very good win for Oscar, who had a pretty like shaky outing last time.
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So good for him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm really happy for Colazo.
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Only problem is, is he is American, right?
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Yes.
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Nobody in America cares about straw weights.
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Nope.
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That's the only problem.
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Like I liked when CP Freshmart was making people fly to Thailand because the crowds
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were fucking awesome if you could find the fights to watch.
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Yeah.
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Thai crowds are amazing.
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Yeah.
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And they don't care how small you are.
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No.
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Like they show up and they show out.
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But the downside was they're really hard to find the broadcast.
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Oscar, Oscar, Oscar.
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Is he the best?
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He is the best Puerto Rican fighter right now.
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So that's fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I have to agree.
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I don't know.
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Matthias looked pretty mid against Paro and then, oh yeah, he got a knockout in his comeback.
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But like, who the fuck was that guy anyway?
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According to Boxerak, he was born in Jersey.
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Yes, he was.
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Oh, good old Joyzy.
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All right.
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I could see why he left.
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Hey, well, well, well, Jersey's not that bad of a place.
28:28
In the main event, Zerto gets the UD over Chris Billams-Smith to unify.
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He picks up the WBO title to add to his WBA.
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Oh, goodness gracious.
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Holy fuck is CBS a like a juggernaut.
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I don't know what the right word is.
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Yeah.
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Like, how did he not go down?
28:53
How did he take that much punishment?
28:56
It's pretty wild to see Zerto looking unlike any time we've ever seen him.
29:04
He was really light on his feet, pivoting, making angles and stuff, changing up his punch
29:10
selection to set up other shots.
29:14
It was, I don't know, where has this guy been?
29:18
Where the fuck has this Ramirez been?
29:21
Because CBS, I don't know too much about him to really knock him.
29:28
But that fight against Okoli, like he was able to do something.
29:31
He was able to be pretty successful there.
29:33
And Okoli, whatever his other faults, wasn't necessarily a slouch either.
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Yeah.
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I'm not.
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Yeah.
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Where did this come from?
29:41
This is what happens when Gilberto gets to eat all the tacos he wants.
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Yeah.
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No more weight cuts.
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No, I was super impressed with him and I cannot believe that Chris Billams Smith is that tough.
29:55
I can't believe any human is that tough.
29:57
I was saying during the fight, like this is around like round eight or nine when it looked,
30:04
it was pretty obvious for one, CBS is not going to win.
30:08
Two, CBS has kind of checked out that then it comes to like, what are we, what more do
30:14
we need to see?
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What more do we want?
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Do we want to watch just watch CBS get his ass kicked for four more rounds?
30:20
I agree with you.
30:22
But there was also no point where I feel like the ref could have stopped it.
30:26
It would have had to have been his corner.
30:28
Yeah.
30:29
That's what I meant more.
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Yeah.
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The ref could not have stopped it.
30:32
It wasn't that grueling.
30:35
But somebody, someone should have said, look, hey Chris, like, dude, what the fuck are we
30:39
doing here?
30:41
Yeah, I agree.
30:44
His corner could have stopped it.
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Anytime in the last four rounds, his corner could have stopped it.
30:49
Cause I also don't think CBS has the power for that.
30:53
Like one shot come back.
30:55
He does not.
30:56
This was a great fight though.
30:58
Anybody who missed it should go find it.
31:00
It was good.
31:01
I gotta go find it.
31:03
Yeah, it's, it's worth it.
31:05
So the, the, uh, Zerto has two.
31:10
The other two are McAlian, uh, Jai Opataya as well.
31:15
I don't, Opataya is the fight to make.
31:18
Absolutely.
31:19
There, there is nothing else to make besides.
31:22
And I think that would be a fucking banger of a fight.
31:25
Like I'd be excited for that one.
31:27
Absolutely.
31:28
I hope, I hope he does it.
31:31
Opataya, I mean, I think McAlian should, he's listed as inactive.
31:37
He hasn't fought since last year, November of last year.
31:42
Um, I'm going to need you to get your ass on a, on a flight to Australia.
31:48
Cause who the fuck are you?
31:50
You don't get to say, oh, the winner of Opataya and Zerto gets, has the privilege of fighting
31:54
me.
31:55
Like shut the fuck up.
31:57
You don't, you don't get to say that.
31:59
So David Benavides was talking about going up to fight Zerto.
32:03
Oh, does he want to look even more flabby?
32:05
Well that, and I don't think it's a good idea.
32:09
I think Benavides would get his ass kicked.
32:11
Yeah.
32:12
Yeah.
32:13
He's got smoked.
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Yeah.
32:15
It's not a good move for him.
32:16
If you can't stop, uh, Vosdick, not sure what you're going to do.
32:20
Uh, 25 pounds higher.
32:22
Anything more for this, for this card?
32:24
All right.
32:26
Uh, one quick one I wanted to mention motherfucking Mickey Scala.
32:30
He's a local, local guy for me.
32:33
He gets a win over Luis Ramos.
32:35
It's a six rounder in New York.
32:37
So enjoy.
32:38
If you don't want me to talk about Mickey Scala, then maybe call in and let me know
32:43
why.
32:44
8 3 3 5 8 9 7 6 3 7.
32:46
Wow.
32:47
What a plugin.
32:48
I know I'm really good at this.
32:50
So December 7th, pro hardware day.
32:51
There are so many fights.
32:53
There's four cards.
32:54
Yeah.
32:55
This is fucking massive on the pro box one.
32:57
Jesus.
32:58
Four cards.
32:59
Um, so pro box recently aligned with Conlin boxing, the Conlin brothers, Conlin family.
33:07
So that's what this card is.
33:09
A lot of these are lower level guys.
33:12
Some people making their debuts.
33:14
The only name I recognize on this whole thing is Tyrone McKenna in the main event versus
33:18
Dylan Moran.
33:19
That's all I got.
33:21
It should be pretty good.
33:22
That one.
33:23
I think, I think they're probably pretty even.
33:25
Yeah.
33:26
I would say that would be a good, it wouldn't be bad to tune in for that.
33:29
So that's on Saturday, December 7th.
33:32
Because it's in, it's in Waterford in Ireland, it'll be on around the same time as the Queensbury
33:40
card.
33:41
I really hope pro box staggers it so that they're not competing because they're probably
33:46
going to not do as well as Queensbury.
33:49
Pro box being on YouTube and free might help them.
33:55
True that.
33:56
Actually, good point.
33:58
And you can always watch it after.
34:00
There's one thing I really like about the pro box is like, you don't have to watch it
34:05
live.
34:06
Okay.
34:07
For the Queensbury card, this one's at the Wembley Arena.
34:11
Bit of stuff on here.
34:12
I'll just, whatever has some intrigue.
34:15
It's really just from, what is it?
34:17
One, two, it's like the fifth fight from the top.
34:21
Sean Noakes versus Matthew Rennie.
34:23
It's welterweight, the British, the pride belt, the rainbow one that the Brits like.
34:30
Sean Noakes versus Matthew Rennie for that.
34:32
Lawrence Okoli debuting at heavyweight versus Hussein Muhammad.
34:36
Yeah, Okoli's back, baby.
34:40
Solomon Dakers versus David Adelaide.
34:45
This is the pride heavyweight belt.
34:48
That's fun.
34:49
Brad Pauls versus Denzel Bentley.
34:51
This one's actually should be good.
34:54
Denzel Bentley.
34:55
That is the snootiest name I have heard in a while.
35:01
This is a 12 rounder.
35:02
The previous ones were 10.
35:05
So the WBO International and the British middleweight titles on the line here.
35:11
And at the top of the bill, Sam Noakes versus Ryan Walsh, 12 rounds, the British and WBO
35:18
International lightweight belts will be on the line.
35:21
So there you go.
35:22
That's all of the stuff happening in Europe.
35:25
Yeah, I didn't recognize very many of those names.
35:29
I recognize these from on paper.
35:32
Just the Noakes brothers on the Queensberry one.
35:36
Okoli.
35:37
Yeah.
35:38
All right, moving on.
35:40
In Puerto Rico, Matchroom is returning to the scene of the crime, as they keep saying,
35:49
for whatever the fuck reason.
35:50
I do not understand why this is in Puerto Rico.
35:53
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
35:56
I don't know.
35:58
There's a bunch of shit on it that I'm going to skip.
36:00
Yanquil Figueroa versus Angel Gonzalez.
36:04
This is WBC Silver and WBO Intercontinental flyweights.
36:09
Is that another one of the Figueroas?
36:14
Is he related to the other ones?
36:16
No.
36:17
Not that I know of anyway.
36:18
I guess it's not that uncommon of a last name.
36:21
That's pretty common.
36:22
Oh, no, yeah.
36:23
Figueroa is.
36:24
Henry Lebron.
36:25
He is the doctor.
36:27
The little doctor?
36:28
El doctorcito?
36:29
Doctor Dolittle?
36:30
His nickname on BoxRec is El doctorcito.
36:35
Yeah, the little doctor.
36:38
Hilarious.
36:39
Doctor Dolittle.
36:41
Henry Lebron versus Christopher Diaz.
36:43
IBF Latin America and ABO.
36:46
Superfeathers Mark Castro versus Agustin Kitana.
36:50
Mark Castro is the Elon Musk lookalike.
36:53
Ten round lightweights.
36:54
And Liam Parrow versus Richardson Hitchens for the IBF super lightweight title.
37:00
I really hope that Richardson Hitchens is stopped in a brutal fashion that makes him
37:09
reconsider his career.
37:10
Please.
37:11
Yeah, I'm going to jump on the Liam Parrow bandwagon too.
37:15
I think Parrow is a dog.
37:18
Please.
37:19
I want him to be good now.
37:20
Riddus of his company, Parrow.
37:23
The world needs you.
37:25
You've been called to service.
37:27
Liam Parrow is him.
37:29
Yeah, I guess.
37:31
All right.
37:32
Moving to top rank in Phoenix.
37:36
Did you get a ticket for this one?
37:37
I did not.
37:38
I got snipped.
37:39
That's all right, though.
37:41
Demmler Zamora.
37:42
I'm going to fucking skip all this shit.
37:45
Giovanna Santian versus Frederick Lawson.
37:48
Walter Waits.
37:49
Santian's coming back after Brian Norman beat him bloody.
37:53
It's a pretty rough one.
37:56
And then I'm going to skip this.
37:58
Then Doful Delgado.
38:00
Whatever.
38:02
Richard Torres versus Isaac Munoz.
38:05
Eight round heavies.
38:07
Interesting.
38:08
I thought it's not bad.
38:11
It's not a bad step up, actually.
38:13
18-1-1 for Isaac.
38:15
Pretty good.
38:16
I like Richard Torres.
38:18
Do I think he's going to be world champion?
38:20
Probably not.
38:21
Do I want him to be?
38:23
Yes.
38:24
I would like for him to go to cruiserweight if he's going to go anywhere.
38:28
Do you think he's not that heavy, I guess?
38:32
No, he would have to probably have to cut a little bit of muscle mass to get to the 200.
38:37
What's the weird one?
38:39
Bridger?
38:40
That only exists.
38:41
Yeah.
38:42
Oh, Bridgerweight?
38:43
Yeah.
38:44
Which is unfortunate.
38:45
That's the weight he comes in at pretty much every fight night he comes in around Bridger.
38:51
Yeah.
38:52
And he's not yoked, but I don't think he has enough fat that he could make cruiserweight
38:58
by just cutting fat.
39:00
In the co-main, Rafael Espinosa is rematching Robesy Ramirez, WBO featherweight title on
39:07
the line.
39:09
I like Espinosa a lot, so I really hope that he gets this one more convincingly because
39:17
Robesy is still pretty good.
39:18
Yeah, me too.
39:22
I don't think it's a frog check for Robesy, but I think it's a ceiling check.
39:26
And in the main, Nav Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez, WBO super feather.
39:36
This is consolidating the interim title while Nav went up to 135 to test the waters.
39:43
So there you go.
39:45
I'm not expecting a whole lot to be different than their first one.
39:49
No, I'm excited though.
39:51
The first one was good.
39:53
Yes, exciting.
39:54
Like Valdez always, always, always comes to scrap.
39:59
Always.
40:00
I can't, can't ever fault him for that, for not trying, not having heart or grit or toughness
40:07
or whatever word you want to use.
40:09
Nav is, I don't know, just a little bit too much, too much, too unorthodox for Valdez,
40:17
who's a little bit more by the book in how he fights.
40:21
Yeah, not sure if this is going to go much better.
40:24
If I would be more than happy to eat my words, Valdez.
40:28
He grew up in Tucson, not too far from here in Phoenix.
40:34
So we're basically best friends at this point since we're like next door neighbors pretty
40:39
much.
40:40
But yeah, I really like both these guys.
40:42
I don't care who wins.
40:44
Yeah, it comes to nothing.
40:46
I hope everybody has a good day.
40:48
Oh no, not one of those.
40:50
We want to see a winner, damn it.
40:53
Yeah, it only comes to one thing for me and that's, yeah, I like them both.
40:57
They're both fun fighters, both put on exciting fights every time they come out pretty much.
41:02
So all I got is Valdez grew up in Arizona.
41:05
So that's it.
41:06
I got nothing else.
41:07
It's the only thing that sets them apart.
41:10
Who are you picking, Drip?
41:11
I'll go with Valdez.
41:12
I like Arizona.
41:13
Nice.
41:14
Well, if you guys are both cheering for Valdez, I guess I'll have to cheer for Navarrete.
41:19
OK, come on now.
41:21
Come on.
41:22
Come on.
41:23
Oh, well, that's it for this portion.
41:27
On the next portion, before I head out, can we just make a quick section talking about
41:31
that trailer for Usyk Fury 2?
41:33
Because fuck me, that was awesome.
41:35
I haven't seen it.
41:36
I seriously I haven't.
41:37
That was a great noise.
41:38
Dude, you got to go watch it.
41:39
Take the time right now to go watch it.
41:40
I'm pulling it up.
41:41
So hold on a second.
41:42
Let me.
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So we're heading into a day which will live in infamy, December 7th.
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It's a busy day.
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Parting words for December 7th.
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Stay warm if you're anywhere that's not in a warm country or state.
43:12
Put up your Christmas trees if you celebrate.
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And yeah, stay hydrated.
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And don't forget the overnight bakery.
43:21
Jesus.
43:22
I don't know what I got for parting words.
43:25
I guess it is December now, isn't it?
43:27
It is indeed.
43:29
Oh, I know.
43:31
It is meat pie season.
43:34
I wanted a meat pie so badly and I cannot find them here anywhere and it makes me sad.
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