Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Chef Tanya Holland hosts “Tanya’s Kitchen Table” on OWN, Executive Chef/Owner of Brown Sugar Kitchen
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- 0:57Speaker 1: effort My Next Kiss Chef Tiya. She's the executive chef
- 1:01Speaker 1: and owner of the internationally Right Now and We Love
- 1:03Speaker 1: Brown Sugar Kitchen restaurant located in Oakland, California. She's the
- 1:07Speaker 1: author of the Brown Sugar Kitchen cookbook and New Soul Cooking.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Chef Tanya competed on the fifteen season of Top Chef
- 1:13Speaker 1: on Broadway, Brobo Excuse Me, feature judge on the Food
- 1:17Speaker 1: Networks are and Chef PBS, The Great American Chef's Tour,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and TV wants My Mama's Throws Down. I love that title.
- 1:24Speaker 1: She now owns her own show on the own network
- 1:26Speaker 1: that airs every Saturday. Tanya's Kitchen Table showcases the beauty
- 1:30Speaker 1: of cooking local while thinking Global, which features new spins
- 1:33Speaker 1: on classic classic dishes and tips on how to cook
- 1:36Speaker 1: like a pro. Please welcome with the money making conversation
- 1:38Speaker 1: for the very first time, Chef Tanya, How you doing great?
- 1:42Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, It's good to be here. Well,
- 1:44Speaker 1: it's always good to talk to somebody about food, okay,
- 1:47Speaker 1: and you're one of the best at it. But before
- 1:50Speaker 1: I get started there, let's talk about you've been on
- 1:52Speaker 1: these competition show that mentality of being able to go
- 1:56Speaker 1: in there and being able to not only be a
- 1:59Speaker 1: contestant at time, but also judge what's the mentality tad
- 2:02Speaker 1: to all that, because you have to be good at
- 2:05Speaker 1: what you do and you have to be spontaneous and creative. Yeah,
- 2:09Speaker 1: I think it's Um, it's all about preparation and you know,
- 2:12Speaker 1: work you've done in your career along the way, and
- 2:16Speaker 1: knowing what is a standard of excellence. Uh that could
- 2:20Speaker 1: be taste, presentation, um, anything, and you know, just to
- 2:25Speaker 1: stay focused. I've always had a strong focus as I've
- 2:28Speaker 1: been working and just noticing not only what I'm doing
- 2:31Speaker 1: in my business, but what others are doing, my colleagues
- 2:34Speaker 1: across the country, across the world. And you know, I've published,
- 2:38Speaker 1: I've read a bunch, so I'm now trusted as an
- 2:43Speaker 1: expert in my field. So that's really you know, it's
- 2:45Speaker 1: a great thing. Well that are you not only trusted?
- 2:48Speaker 1: You wanted the best? So let's go and put the
- 2:50Speaker 1: word best and trusted. Because the fact that you have
- 2:52Speaker 1: a show there's on their own network that airs every Saturday,
- 2:56Speaker 1: you know, Chinese Kitchen Table. Tell us about that show. Yeah,
- 2:59Speaker 1: the show has been something that I've envisioned for well
- 3:03Speaker 1: over a decade UM since I had my show on
- 3:05Speaker 1: the Food Network, Melting Pot in early two thousand's, I've
- 3:09Speaker 1: been wanting to get back on have my own show,
- 3:11Speaker 1: something that would really highlight my personality and my style,
- 3:14Speaker 1: UM that I could shape UM and not be pigeonholed
- 3:17Speaker 1: by a production company or producer. And this really happened here,
- 3:21Speaker 1: so I'm really pleased with it. I started off this
- 3:24Speaker 1: season with a lot of my you know, my standards,
- 3:27Speaker 1: my greatest hits as far as recipes, but I'm able
- 3:30Speaker 1: to tell a story of how I got to them,
- 3:32Speaker 1: and including my family background. I bring some friends in
- 3:37Speaker 1: at the end of each show and break bread with
- 3:40Speaker 1: them and share experiences and stories, and that's really what
- 3:44Speaker 1: I love. I love hospitality, and I love the opportunity
- 3:47Speaker 1: to uh teach people how to cook good food. You know,
- 3:51Speaker 1: that's healthy, that's simple, and um the taste delicious. Well,
- 3:55Speaker 1: you know, I've watched the show and some of your
- 3:57Speaker 1: friends bringing they look like hungry when they come into
- 4:01Speaker 1: the kitchen. You know, it looked like you're not cooking
- 4:05Speaker 1: fast enough. Gap already played already so perspective, and I
- 4:10Speaker 1: love the fact that you're talking about Rishwan. I don't
- 4:13Speaker 1: want to just be on TV. I want to be
- 4:14Speaker 1: on TV talk about my brain, talk about my perspective,
- 4:17Speaker 1: my point of view. You know, one of my favorite
- 4:19Speaker 1: shows on Netflix is called The Chef Table. When they
- 4:22Speaker 1: did it right, just a beautiful it's beautifully produced shows. Sure,
- 4:28Speaker 1: and so when I watched this show, you know, I'm
- 4:30Speaker 1: glad you you've seen it and the Rodney's being on
- 4:33Speaker 1: my show and I'm a big fan of here. I
- 4:34Speaker 1: have a lot of shifts that come on my show
- 4:37Speaker 1: and because they know I recognized their story and want
- 4:39Speaker 1: to let them tell their stories, you know, because you know,
- 4:42Speaker 1: you know, I just had chef or Dwado Jordan, one
- 4:44Speaker 1: of my good friends. I know him and uh, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 1: and we were talking about black chefs, you know, because
- 4:50Speaker 1: you know, from black chef to ownership, you know, that's
- 4:53Speaker 1: another thing because a lot of times, you know, the
- 4:55Speaker 1: history is that which is good cooks, good maids, clean
- 4:58Speaker 1: to people, give way tres is, but not being recognized
- 5:02Speaker 1: as owners what you are an owner and now and
- 5:04Speaker 1: now and not be recognized as top flight in the
- 5:07Speaker 1: national chef because sometimes we're just pigeonholes. As the you know,
- 5:11Speaker 1: the mom pop chef back there with tator corn bread
- 5:16Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. What have you done as
- 5:18Speaker 1: far as your brand? It's what you've done. I'm not
- 5:20Speaker 1: saying you out there trying to change the world, but
- 5:22Speaker 1: you're trying to deliver your personality and that's and this
- 5:25Speaker 1: is what you do with what you can do. Yeah.
- 5:27Speaker 1: And then and actually I am trying to change the world.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I am. I'm gonna help you great one thing that um,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and that's something I've aspired to do for many many years. Um.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I haven't written down from a diary when I was
- 5:42Speaker 1: um uh probably you know, a young teenager. I said,
- 5:46Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to do. Whatever it is,
- 5:48Speaker 1: I want either to be famous or to change the world.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to, you know, make some change and impact. Um.
- 5:57Speaker 1: I've just been voted onto the board of trustees and
- 5:59Speaker 1: the James Beard Foundation, which you know is the organization
- 6:03Speaker 1: that really recognizes awards. Yeah, and I'm going to be
- 6:08Speaker 1: chairing all the awards, so you know, I will be
- 6:12Speaker 1: definitely looking to make sure that these opportunities are now
- 6:15Speaker 1: diverse and equitable and inclusive. And that's exciting. I've also
- 6:20Speaker 1: done a lot of culinary diplomacy work with the U. S.
- 6:22Speaker 1: State Department, traveling around the world representing the United States,
- 6:26Speaker 1: but also introducing soul food to different cultures in Kazakhstan,
- 6:32Speaker 1: in Mexico and Hong Kong and Singapore. I've gone to
- 6:35Speaker 1: so far. I supposed to go to Japan and Taypew
- 6:37Speaker 1: one this year, but hopefully it can go towards the
- 6:40Speaker 1: end of one or two. UM And I'm just passionate
- 6:45Speaker 1: about that. I think, you know, food brings people together.
- 6:48Speaker 1: It just really demonstrates our common denominators. Um. And it's
- 6:54Speaker 1: just it's you know, it's empowering. Everybody should be fed.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Everybody should know because you learn how to cook at
- 6:59Speaker 1: least one or two dishes for survival. UM. And I'm
- 7:04Speaker 1: just trying to grow my brand in the hospitality fields
- 7:07Speaker 1: and work on my next cookbook, hopefully continue to do
- 7:10Speaker 1: the show and open the restaurant again when we have
- 7:14Speaker 1: the restrictions. You know, really one of them really been
- 7:20Speaker 1: a state. There's really been locking down ability for restaurants
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- 9:24Speaker 1: words so food and I'm from Houston, Texas, born and
- 9:28Speaker 1: raised and so of a southern bore. So what is
- 9:31Speaker 1: so food to you? Because you talked about it, and
- 9:33Speaker 1: because my version of so food is I tend to
- 9:36Speaker 1: see has been shifted into you see it in buffets
- 9:38Speaker 1: and things like that, but you put other people said,
- 9:41Speaker 1: now that's not so food shot, So what is so fo.
- 9:44Speaker 1: When you're talking about so food, well, I think anywhere
- 9:47Speaker 1: you find African Americans in this country, it's you know,
- 9:51Speaker 1: it's rooted in the south. Uh. The cuisine created by
- 9:56Speaker 1: the enslaved people. I mean the first fusion cuisine, the
- 10:00Speaker 1: really the first American cuisine, excuse me, um. And then
- 10:04Speaker 1: you know, black folks migrated to the northeast, to the northwest,
- 10:08Speaker 1: to Chicago, Midwest. Um here from Houston, Texas. My mom's
- 10:12Speaker 1: from Shreeport, Louisiana. My dad's from Virginia. Their soul foods
- 10:16Speaker 1: are different, but it's going to be based on excuse me,
- 10:20Speaker 1: a lot of the cuisine that our ancestors created with
- 10:24Speaker 1: the ingredients they found here, the ingredients they brought and
- 10:27Speaker 1: what they were given. You know, um, really humble cuisine.
- 10:31Speaker 1: But then you know myself at Ward oh Mashma, we're
- 10:34Speaker 1: taking to the next level were in our you know,
- 10:37Speaker 1: more refined techniques. Um, we're trying to bring in sustainability
- 10:41Speaker 1: and organic products and really bring the cuisine into the
- 10:45Speaker 1: next century. It still represents us and our heritage, which
- 10:49Speaker 1: is so rich. You know in the African just diaspora.
- 10:51Speaker 1: If you expanded to West Africa and North Africa, the Caribbean.
- 10:56Speaker 1: We have so much to work with and we've given
- 10:58Speaker 1: um so much to this world in terms of flavor
- 11:02Speaker 1: and food ways, and if it's up to me, I'm
- 11:05Speaker 1: just gonna make sure that we keep getting more credit
- 11:07Speaker 1: for that because it's it's really important. Absolutely. By the way,
- 11:11Speaker 1: my parents were born in Streeport, Bosier Ship in Louisiana,
- 11:14Speaker 1: so I just want to let you know we have
- 11:15Speaker 1: a little little roots there together. We very familiar with
- 11:19Speaker 1: that part of the country. Like I said, my mom
- 11:21Speaker 1: and dad were born in Streeport, basically Bosier, louis What
- 11:24Speaker 1: you know is like I know exactly that is. Now,
- 11:27Speaker 1: let's talk about your show. We kind of mentioned a
- 11:30Speaker 1: little bit Tanya's kitchen table and basically the classic dishes
- 11:34Speaker 1: tips on how to cook like a pro, but also
- 11:36Speaker 1: a spin and uh one of the spans you did
- 11:39Speaker 1: on the famous Creole dirty rice, you know which I
- 11:42Speaker 1: love so dirty rice. I've never cooked it, I'll be
- 11:46Speaker 1: honest with you. But you have two versions of it.
- 11:49Speaker 1: You have one with me and you have a vegan version.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Version was the vegan version? Talk to us about that. Well,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I have a classic, like you said, with sausage and
- 11:58Speaker 1: the chicken lager. Come over, come on, come on, come on,
- 12:01Speaker 1: thank come on, come on stop. That's my personal favorite too,
- 12:06Speaker 1: but especially living in California and you know now, but
- 12:12Speaker 1: when I opened in two thousand and eight, a lot
- 12:14Speaker 1: of vegetarians, a lot of vegans in the community, and
- 12:17Speaker 1: I just wanted to take care of them. And um,
- 12:20Speaker 1: I love cooking fresh vegetables. So it's really the creole
- 12:24Speaker 1: spices in there, the Worcester sauces in there, but it's
- 12:27Speaker 1: more vegetable forward and and it's a favorite. People love it.
- 12:30Speaker 1: And you got the spinach in there, right, the baby spinish.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Just yeah, baby spinach at the answer. Just some extra
- 12:35Speaker 1: freshness and it's and it looks fantastic. First of all,
- 12:38Speaker 1: it looks very easy to do. Of course, you know,
- 12:40Speaker 1: you gotta do a lot of chopping the green onions
- 12:42Speaker 1: and the peppers, and you know it's a little working.
- 12:44Speaker 1: They're browning it out there, so you know, but you
- 12:47Speaker 1: made it look easy for me. I saw I one
- 12:49Speaker 1: out and I remembered. So that's a that's a talent
- 12:51Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes you watch the recipes, you go
- 12:53Speaker 1: you get lost in the process, and I want to
- 12:56Speaker 1: follow you. I go Okay, cool, that's really quick. Because
- 12:59Speaker 1: you know, you you have the ability to talk and
- 13:03Speaker 1: and uh and demonstrate the same time. A lot of
- 13:04Speaker 1: people can't do that. They'll stop and mixing their stop.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Because your ability to talk and demonstrate at the same time,
- 13:10Speaker 1: it makes the process so much easier to understand and
- 13:14Speaker 1: gives credibility that I can do it too. Thank you,
- 13:17Speaker 1: Thank you, glad. Yeah. Now, now, one thing that my
- 13:21Speaker 1: wife for her birthday I made her. I I grew
- 13:25Speaker 1: some salmon. You know, I ain't really not easy. It
- 13:27Speaker 1: was to do salmon some you know, some some sea
- 13:30Speaker 1: salt and some lemon and something with the partially and
- 13:33Speaker 1: she just thought I did the best thing in the world.
- 13:35Speaker 1: And I took a bow for that. Okay, now you
- 13:38Speaker 1: do you do it or something with colar greens and
- 13:40Speaker 1: creole mustard sauce. And I talked to us about that,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and just tell you how you just do these different
- 13:44Speaker 1: spins on your show that makes your show that airs
- 13:47Speaker 1: every Saturday on their own network, and it's really fantastic.
- 13:51Speaker 1: You know. I know we shot on time, but before
- 13:52Speaker 1: we want to make sure you understood. I really respect
- 13:55Speaker 1: what you do and I ad myrer skill set Okay,
- 13:58Speaker 1: tell us about the salmon and those on short today,
- 14:01Speaker 1: but I'll have to come back. Yeah. So I took
- 14:04Speaker 1: the salmon, the colored green leaf and blanched it. So
- 14:08Speaker 1: you put in boiling water until its softens, and you
- 14:11Speaker 1: put in ice water so that it stops the cooking process.
- 14:14Speaker 1: But it's avaliable. It also helps it stay green. And
- 14:18Speaker 1: I took it. I wrapped the salmon file at that,
- 14:20Speaker 1: seasoned with some salt, add some olive oil and some
- 14:23Speaker 1: thyme fresh time, and wrapped it and then I steam
- 14:26Speaker 1: it uh in a steam basket altogether in until the
- 14:30Speaker 1: salmon is cooked. Probably I like to cook it medium,
- 14:33Speaker 1: so steam and how long is thees minutes? No, probably
- 14:39Speaker 1: it's between fifteen and twenty, depending on the weight of
- 14:41Speaker 1: the salmon. Fla yeah, but wrap it in that you
- 14:46Speaker 1: likely you put colored green around the outside like a
- 14:51Speaker 1: little envelope. And then when does the sauce coming to play?
- 14:54Speaker 1: The saux is on the side and I make it
- 14:57Speaker 1: in the blender. It's um on mustard with mustard seeds
- 15:01Speaker 1: and umg, yikes, it's it's a delicious, easy, easy sauce
- 15:06Speaker 1: and some spice in it. Really good. Well, first of all,
- 15:09Speaker 1: I will be doing that menu when I saw the whole.
- 15:11Speaker 1: First of all, I love collegrees. Let me just tell
- 15:13Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, that's why I know you gotta come back,
- 15:16Speaker 1: because we really got to get dig deep into this
- 15:18Speaker 1: conversation because I'd love to I'd love to talk to
- 15:22Speaker 1: you more about it and sort of my philosophy behind
- 15:25Speaker 1: you know, how I cook and well because it's just natural,
- 15:28Speaker 1: and plus we got some southern roots and some kinship
- 15:31Speaker 1: down here in Louisama that we need to connect again on.
- 15:33Speaker 1: And you know, I just finished the call with Odd
- 15:35Speaker 1: Water recently and he was talking about chipling. So we
- 15:38Speaker 1: gotta get down to that chipling conversation cause I know
- 15:40Speaker 1: you know about that. I know about so but I
- 15:43Speaker 1: thank you. I want to tell everybody. Your show airs
- 15:46Speaker 1: every Saturday on the On Network. Please don't miss it
- 15:48Speaker 1: until Decenter twenty six every Saturday, and it's Tanya's Kitchen Table.
- 15:53Speaker 1: It showcases the beauty of cooking local while thinking global.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my show because okay, we
- 15:58Speaker 1: talked soon. Okay, please, okay, take care. If you want
- 16:03Speaker 1: to hear more interviews on money Making Conversations, please go
- 16:05Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation dot com and if you want
- 16:07Speaker 1: to subscribe, please go to my YouTube channel. I'm Sean McDonald.
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