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[BxBD] Eubank-Benn recap · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Oh, shit. Boxing Before
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Dark. We're back, bitches. Shanada, how are you
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doing out there and JP? I'm good, I'm good. It's
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Golden Week this week, so I have to work because
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my experiment plan didn't give me a time off,
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but everybody else gets four days off. What's
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Golden Week for? It's just that there's randomly
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two holidays together. So, actually, there's
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kind of three. The 29th... is Emperor Showa,
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so I think like three emperors ago, two emperors
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ago. It's his birthday, the 29th of April, and
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then the first weekend in May, the Monday -Tuesday,
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is a holiday. One is Sports Day, and one is Green
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Day. So Sports Day, you go outside and play sports,
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and Green Day, you go appreciate nature. It's
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basically a long weekend while the weather's
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nice. Because in the summer, it's too hot. So
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they don't just play American Idiot over and
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over on Green Day? I would love that. They're
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going to blast it in the lab all weekend. Oh,
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shit. Well, let's get right into it. Fucking
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Manny Pacquiao is making a comeback versus Mario
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Barrios. This is fucking ridiculous. Absolutely
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ridiculous. I'm sorry, how old is Pacquiao these
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days? 45? When was his last fight? Like six years
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ago? I think... When did he fight Ugas? I think
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it was six years ago now. 2019? Before COVID?
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Was Ugas before COVID? Or was it during COVID?
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I thought it was after. I gotta go look it up
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now. Yeah, I was about to do the same. 2021.
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You're right. So four years ago. Still. He lost.
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He lost and a four year hiatus and you get a
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championship fight? Bullshit. Makes perfect sense.
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Bullshit. Mauricio is fucking smoking some something.
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I mean, man, he's a draw. I get that it's about
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money, but goddamn. Last time he looked good
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was 2019. That was his last good fight. Yeah,
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it's been six years since a win, and he gets
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a title fight? It's ridiculous. Yeah. Everybody
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is like, well, George Foreman came back and did
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it, but George did it the way you're supposed
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to. He went back on the grind and earned his
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way up to a title shot. These guys should not
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be getting title shots off of losses or coming
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out of retirements or anything else. It's ridiculous.
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Only situation I could see where coming out of
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retirement is enough to get a title fight would
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be if you, like Tyson Fury, you retire. No, those
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fake retirements. Yeah, those half -ass, like
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you're only gone for like a year tops. That's
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not a real retirement, though. That's just lying
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in the press and taking a normal hiatus break.
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Like one year is pretty standard. Well, not standard,
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but pretty common. Yeah. Not fucking four years
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coming off a loss. Yeah. And I mean, everyone
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talks about the Keith Thurman fight. Like he
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won. Yeah, he won. But everyone acts like it
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was this massive sweep like he did to Adrian
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Broner. Like Broner got his ass beat. Just pillar
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to post. But Keith Thurman got knocked down.
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And then otherwise was pretty competitive. Yeah,
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I do think Manny won that fight. He did. But
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it was a close fight for sure. Yeah, but people
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act like it wasn't. And then Ugas was... That
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was like the tipping point. Because after that,
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Ugas was competitive. But he was clearly showing
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his age. He was not the same guy he used to be.
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And he loses. I don't see this going much better.
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The only thing is that Barrios isn't all that
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awesome. Barrios is the weakest champion for
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sure. Which is the only reason Manny's trying
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this. But Manny's just too old. Right. His whole
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thing was speed. And he's not fast anymore. He's
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46 years old. 46? 46. He's a whole decade older
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than I am. What was the thing? Somebody sent
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a screenshot of Reddit and it was two posts.
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One saying Manny was coming for this title shot
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and the post directly under that was 16 years
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since Manny beats Hatton. Yeah, sweet juxtaposition.
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Fucking ridiculous. I don't know. I don't...
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I don't... Official fucking signature of in the
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no column for this one. I don't want to see it.
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Don't need Manny Pacquiao back. No. Because this
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is like a no -win situation. You beat Mario Barrios.
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Congratulations. You've got the easiest belt
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out of the three champions there are. You got
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the easy one. Now you've got a huge target on
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your back and somebody's going to beat the living
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piss out of you. Brian Norman or Boots. Yeah,
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nobody wants to see Pacquiao versus Boots. No,
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I absolutely do not. That's like elder abuse.
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This is a Del Boy situation. Like, I like Matty
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Pacquiao, but I do not want him to win if he
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does fight. Yeah, and that's the other part of
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the no -win situation, is he loses to Mario Barrios.
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I guess it's... What the fuck? It can't be that
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much worse than Ugas, but... Well, and just imagine
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you're Mario Barrios. You get to say you beat
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Matty Pacquiao. Yeah, and... You just got to
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hope that nobody stops to think about... What
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year it is? Yeah. Because, like, the 16 years
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since Ricky Hatton, that... How old was Barrios
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at the time? 10? Well, how old is Barrios now?
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He was 13. He's the Aztec, right? Yeah. He was
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13 years old when... Manny is 16 years older
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than Barrios? 29 to 46? Yeah. 17? 17 years. Barrios
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could literally be his son and it would only
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be slightly scandalous. Yeah. Like, as having
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a kid in grade 12. Excellent. Fucking ridiculous.
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Why? Why are they letting him do this? Why did
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Nevada clear him? Why did Suleiman allow this
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to happen? This is boxing corruption at its finest.
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This is where I would cue that song that... He
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goes, money, money, money, money, money. Oh,
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no. Yep. That's the only reason. There's no other
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reason. There's no valid reason otherwise. Well,
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and, like, he doesn't deserve the shot. No. Take
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everything else out. He just doesn't deserve
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it right now. Like, somebody is getting screwed
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under their chance. at the easy belt. Although
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I guess if they get to fight whoever wins, it's
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probably still an easy win. Yeah. I mean, Barrios
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isn't going to get any better and Manny's not
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going to get any younger. So whoever has the
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belt after this fight is still going to be the
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weakest champion. But Manny Pacquiao in 2025.
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Fuck. What is going on? Well, on that note, I
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am opening my holiday beer. Yeah. Fuck. It was
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the best of times. It was the worst of times.
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It was mostly just the worst of times. You know
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who's having a worst time? Sebastian Fundoro.
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Yeah, I saw they stripped him. That's unfortunate.
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Stripped him for... What was it you had said?
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So they ordered that he fight Xander Zayas, and
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he is declining that, dropping the belt for the
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Tim Zhu rematch. So Xander's going to fight someone
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for a vacant belt, I assume? Oh yeah, I didn't
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think to look up who that was. Yeah, I'm about
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to. I mean, the Tim Zhu rematch needs to happen,
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I guess. But I'm a little worried about Tim Zhu
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after seeing his last two performances. He still
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looks scared. And if Fundora cuts him again,
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he's going to just mentally implode, I think.
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If he gets cut again, he probably will. But he
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does deserve his shot at... at his revenge because
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that was not a fair fight that first one and
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i i've complained about it at length but the
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corner screwed him the doctor screwed him everybody
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screwed him in that fight the the wbo site isn't
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working it's no no it's and maybe it's just me
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Let me check. WBOboxing .com Nope. It just says
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Teezy in the top corner. Somebody misspelled
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Tess. I have it bookmarked. Or it's one of those
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weird Gen Alpha bullshit things. Tess is too
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normal. Give it a little Teezy. Tessie? Give
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it a little Tessie. I see probably more what
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they were going for. What weight class is that?
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54. Which is Walter? Super Walter. Or Junior
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Middle. Okay, so WBO is vacant. Zayas is 1. Perez
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is 2, maybe? The guy who beat Charles Conwell?
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I'm not sure. This seems to be an amalgamation
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of the rankings that I found. Xander Zayas next.
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Boxing scene has him. Yeah, the guy who just
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beat Cordell, not Cordell Booker, Charles Conwell
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is number two. Yeah, Boxing News 24 -7, whatever
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that is. Says it's Jorge Perez for the vacant
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WBO has been ordered. Yep. Makes sense. Team
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Zeus number three. How can you not... How is
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that not a sufficient title defense? I have no
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idea. Because Cordell Booker was a fucking mandatory.
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What is happening? They don't want Fundora to
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have that belt. That's all it is. It's strictly
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politics. They don't like Fundora being the champion
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there. Whatever Bob orders. The WBO belongs to
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top rank. They are screwing Fundora on this one,
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I think. Yeah, absolutely. Because I agree. Kim
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Zoo's ranked high enough. He should count as
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a defense. Yeah. I mean, if he's third. According
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to the Tessie site, he's third. What more do
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you want? Yeah, I don't... They want Fandora
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out, I guess. Yeah, because you've got to give
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it to Xander Zayas, who's a top -ranked fighter.
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It's not like they aren't going to make money
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on that Tim Zhu rematch, too. Probably more than
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they would with Xander Zayas, if Fandora fought
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him. I bet you they want Xander to fight for
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a belt on Puerto Rico weekend in New York. But
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then he beats Xander Zayas' ass? When is the
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Puerto Rico parade? I just know it's in June.
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Yeah, that's probably what they're doing. They
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stripped Fundora so that Xander Zayas can fight
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for a belt. in new york on puerto rico weekend
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because he's the only puerto rican that's famous
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right now in boxing and he's fighting a mexican
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people love that yeah people gobble it up i i
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used to love that rivalry stuff there's not much
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of a rivalry right now not at the moment but
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but i bet you that's what it is It's all so that
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the Puerto Rico Day Parade fights have a belt
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on the line. Just so happens the belt in question
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is the one that Top Rank always has. Well, it
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makes it easier to take it away from people.
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Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why... Boxing politics
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doesn't like Fundora. I know he's probably not
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the strongest champion. He kind of got lucky
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with that cut to get the belt and things, but
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he's a likable kid. He has no major scandals
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that I know of. He's entertaining. Nobody's ever
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said that Fundora's a boring fight. People should
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like him. Yeah, he's always entertaining. Whether,
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for better or worse, given his attributes. That's
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part of what I mean, though. Like, I don't see
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any reason for promoters to dislike him. I guess
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he doesn't shit talk very much. Too much of that,
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anyways. He's a polite person. Yeah, I guess
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that's too boring for... Too boring for boxing
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these days? We need more heels. Like Ben Whitaker?
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Gross. I've taken myself off of the Ben Whitaker
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train. I don't like him. I wasn't a huge fan
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to start with, and after that... injury. Big
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quotes on injury. I fucking hate them now. Yeah.
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That's what it was. The fake injury was pretty
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bad. To my fault, I was like, I can overlook
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this just to continue propping up the guy who's
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gets everybody all riled up because he dances
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around a lot. Yeah, but I don't like that anyways.
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He was already a heel in my eyes. Yeah, I was
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willing to overlook the injury thing, but then
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you're benefiting from another shitty stoppage
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and you're acting like you just beat this guy's
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ass when you fucking didn't. Well, and he fucking
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whined and complained. about the crowd booing
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him. Have you tried not being an asshole? Just
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an idea. Yeah, he's not coming back from that
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fake injury. No chance. Maybe he can start dancing
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again. Wow, I hope his ankle's okay. You never
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know with those kinds of things. It'd be permanent
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damage. Permanent damage. Segway into MJ Akhmadaliv
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fighting Inouye in September. Agreed in principle,
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as you put it. Yeah, so boxing scene has a quote
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from Inouye, or I assume his interpreter. That's
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the only thing that's written in stone, Inoue
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said. In terms of my future, the next fight is
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in September with MJ, but that's as far as it
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goes in the context of what's under contract.
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So it sounds like they've signed the contract,
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the fight's going to happen, and the rumors are
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it's going to be in September. I don't know where,
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though. I imagine that would be in Tokyo. At
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the Tokyo Dome. Yeah, I don't... MJ is one of
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the few that's kind of famous -famous, though.
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They might want Inoue back in the States. Eh.
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I mean, I'd prefer if it's in Tokyo. Yeah. I'm
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sure everybody in Japan would prefer it's in
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Tokyo. Everybody's still, uh, well... My friends
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are slight degenerates, so it's also not a good
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subsection of people to use as the normal. But
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everybody's waking up early and the bar is opening
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at 9 a .m. And we're all going to be there at
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9 a .m. to watch In A Way in Vegas. Making it
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work? Yeah. They did open today at 9 a .m. as
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well and tomorrow. So, like, this whole weekend,
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9 a .m. at the bar. But I'm not going into Tokyo
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three days in a row. That's too much effort.
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That is a lot. It's only an hour and a half on
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the train, but the waking up early and being
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dressed in a human, nah, too much. Did you say
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being dressed in human? Yeah. I can be not dressed
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and hardly awake in my house to watch this stuff.
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You could be a gremlin. Yeah. Especially when
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it's hot out, I hang around in very little clothes
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in my house all the time. And if it's boring...
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I can have a nap. You can fall asleep. I wonder
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what that would be like. I have fallen asleep
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at the bar before. One of those Sony cards, I
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just put my head down on the bar and had a nap.
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I asked the guy beside me to wake me up when
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they did the ring walks. I think it was a Bevo,
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better be a, if I recall correctly. Yeah. Yeah.
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It was a six -hour card that started at 1 a .m.
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And they decided to take a long -ass break? Yeah.
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I had an hour nap, and I legit didn't miss anything.
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Somebody was playing darts beside me and woke
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me up when they got a bullseye. I am excited
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for Inouye to finally fight MJ. People will have
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to shut up about him being a duck. I don't know
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why they think that Inouye is the one ducking,
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but I see it on forums all the time. The price
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of success is the goalposts are always going
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to move. It doesn't matter. He could be fighting
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MJ now, and there would still be some other guy
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that he's ducking. Like, I'll say, like, Picasso
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or Sam Goodman or something stupid like that.
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But there's always someone. Or, like, he's ducking
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the guys at 126. Like, he's just fighting bums,
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and he won't move up because he's ducking the
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real challenges. The expecting everybody to move
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up a million weight classes is ridiculous. People
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didn't do that back in the day. Like, Marvin
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Hagler only fought at one weight class, and nobody
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complained. Triple G fought one weight class.
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Nobody complained. Exactly. Like, I don't understand
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why everybody thinks, oh, if you're good and
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you're small, you need to run up six weight classes.
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How about... The 126 guys, if they're so awesome,
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why don't they move down? Yeah. I mean, eventually
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Inouye is going to meet people that are just
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too big. Yeah, I think that's what people want.
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They want to find his ceiling so that they can
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say, see, he's not that good. Well, fuck him.
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He is that good. Yeah, exactly. It's ridiculous.
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Oh, well, his frame's big. He can go up another
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weight class. His frame is not big, by the way.
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He is tiny. Oh, well, he walks around at 140,
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so he should be able to fight up to 135. Like,
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bullshit. No. And also, in these really small
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weight classes, the height difference becomes
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a big thing. Like, how tall is he in a way? I
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think he's only 5 '4". 5 '4". And even taking
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out Espinoza, that's just like a... He's an outlier.
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Right, right. But what are the other guys up
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at 126? They're all like 5 '6", 5 '8". Robisi,
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I think, is closer in size. Robisi? I almost
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spelled his name wrong. 5 '6". Okay, two inches
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isn't that bad. But he's also, I think he might
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be an outlier as well. Because he's kind of small.
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Brandon Figueroa is 5 '9". That's five inches.
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That's a lot of reach. And his arms are probably
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longer. Fulton is 5 '6". Oh, they're not as tall
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as I thought they were. Yeah. I guess I can't
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complain about the height. But still, eventually
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he's just going to go up against people who are
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too big. Angelo Leo's 5 '6". Neri is 5 '5". Okay.
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Yeah. I take it back. I take it back. The height's
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not a problem. Yeah. 126 is doable, but there's
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really no need to rush. I also wonder if Inouye
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is actually... He lists himself as 5 '5". I don't
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think he's 5 '5". I would say it's safe to subtract
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one or two with everyone. The reach is listed
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as like 146 inches. Maybe dial down the exaggeration
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a little bit. Yeah. On BoxRec, they have his
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reach at 171, which is, what, 5 '8"? Is that
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in centimeters? That is in centimeters, yeah.
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67 and a half inches. That's 5 '7 and a half.
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Yeah. No, it's not. Anyway. Everybody lies on
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those things. Yeah, just like everyone says MJ,
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or Inouye's ducking MJ. Everybody lies about
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that too. God. Well, they're going to have to
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find a new lie here soon. I am certain. Well,
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my money, it's going to be that he's not moving
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up. He's ducking the 126 guys. Oh, 100%. I think
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you're correct. If he's fighting MJ next, I hope
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Nakatani is after that, which is what they said,
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I think. Nakatani in December. In Tokyo. And
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if that happens, I am buying a ticket. Oh, good
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luck with that one. Sure. I'll get one. Maybe
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not. Maybe I won't. Positive mental attitude.
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Because the first time I tried with the lottery,
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every time I've tried with the lottery, I have
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not gotten a ticket. But maybe I can get one
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of the old boys at the bar to apply for a ticket
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for me. That would probably work better. Because
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you can order up to four when you place your
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lottery application. So if they don't have their
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four completely stacked out. I also have a friend.
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I have a couple friends I can ask. So you'll
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have several options? Yeah, well, and I'll put
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their names on my lotteries as well. Recent cards.
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Boxer first? Yeah. Ben Whittaker. But this is
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the end of Ben Whittaker. At least this is the
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end of my support of Ben Whittaker. And this
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is any... semblance of a chance of him being
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a top -level guy. He's fucking finished. I think
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this is... I was never on the Whitaker train.
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I just don't like his attitude. And that fake
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injury fucking pissed me off to no end. And Cameron
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won that first fight, or was winning that first
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fight, in my opinion. Yeah, that's why he faked
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the injury. He got the benefit of a shitty decision
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to call it a technical draw. Yeah, ridiculous.
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And this time he gets a Brit stoppage. That was
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crazy. Like, that was an out -of -nowhere stoppage.
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He was putting it on, but... That was definitely
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way too early. It was the second round. Yeah.
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Cameron wasn't that hurt. No, that's what I mean.
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He had gotten tagged, but he was not stoppage
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level hurt. Nor was he getting hit to that cleanly
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that much. Should we start calling British stoppages,
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calling them Brexits? Yes. I just... Everything
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about this fight was kind of ass. Yeah. I do
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think Whitaker probably would have won if it
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kept on. Like, he was looking better than Cameron
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this fight. But him getting the benefit of the
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stoppage early and... I'm all for stopping fights
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before boxers take too much damage, but Cameron
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wasn't damaged yet. No, he wasn't. Like, I don't
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know. I just, that was, that was set up to make
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Whitaker look better than he is. And everybody
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knows it. And everybody knows that injury was
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fake too. He got booed on the way in and then
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he complained about getting booed. Dude, if you're
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going to be an asshole and clown on people, own
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it. Yeah. Like, if you're going to play the heel,
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play the heel. But don't whine like a little
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bitch when people don't like you. Yeah, that's
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kind of what you were going for, wasn't it? With
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the dancing stuff, you were going for rubbing
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people the wrong way. See, I think... In his
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head that was coming off as cool and not asshole.
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Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, okay. I
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see what you mean. I don't think he realized
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he was playing the heel when he was dancing and
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clowning on Journeyman. He really thought people
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were like, wow, I want to be like him. I do think
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that's what he thought. I think that's what he
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was going for. Was, oh man, this guy's so cool
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and so good that he makes everyone else look
32:39
stupid. Instead of everybody realizing it's just
32:46
fucking disrespectful. Yeah. Anyways, he's also
32:51
a little bitch. He faked an injury. to get out
32:54
of it, and he complained when he got booed. Frazier
33:00
Clark gets a quick stoppage over former Dillian
33:07
White opponent Ebenezer Teta. I don't know if
33:13
that's a good title to have, if that's your claim
33:17
to fame. He took Dillian White to seven. And
33:23
Frazier Clark gets him out in the first round.
33:27
That's... To me, that's... It's making a statement.
33:32
It's good. Yeah, it's good for Frazier. That's
33:34
how you're supposed to do it. I'm also glad to
33:38
see that he wasn't scared after having his head
33:40
broken. Because that injury in the... No, wait.
33:46
Am I doing it backwards? Fabio Wardley was...
33:48
The Joff one was the second one. The first one
33:52
was the nose flatten. Yeah, yeah. Fraser Clark
33:59
is mentally very tough. If somebody broke my
34:04
head like that, I would not get back in the ring
34:07
and stand there and let people punch me. Would
34:10
you perhaps run around the ring a lot? Perhaps.
34:16
Even against a subpar opponent? Perhaps. Perhaps.
34:22
Perhaps. I might look like a certain boxer who
34:26
fought earlier today. I wonder who would do that.
34:31
A little bitch like Shanada. I don't know if
34:40
he's a little bitch for it. Sam Eggington gets
34:43
his fight stopped on a cut. They were in the
34:45
eighth round, so they went to the cards, and
34:46
he got the UD. I know what no one can call Sam
34:51
Egginton a little bitch. That man takes damage.
34:55
Yeah, I I'm actually sad to see he's still fighting.
34:59
I really think he's his brain is mush. This is
35:03
another I wish he'd have lost. Yeah, it would
35:06
be probably to his benefit if he did. I I get
35:12
him and Cheeseman mixed up. I do, though. They're
35:17
like the same person in my head. And I know one
35:19
of them has really bad gambling habits. And that's
35:24
why he comes back to boxing all the time. But
35:27
I'm not sure if it's Eggington or Cheeseman.
35:32
It's Josh confused Cheeseman and Eggington as
35:42
well when I mentioned them. They're basically
35:46
the same person. It has to be Eggington, because
35:53
Cheeseman hasn't fought since 2021. Oh, they
35:59
finally got him to stop? No, but it is Cheeseman
36:01
I was thinking of. Cheeseman has lost hundreds
36:05
of thousands through gambling addiction. I don't
36:10
know why Eggington keeps coming back. It's the
36:13
only thing he knows how to do. It's not just
36:16
me. Because I typed in Eggington and gambling
36:22
and the top hit is Cheeseman lost hundreds of
36:25
thousands gambling. The whole world confuses
36:29
these two men. I gotta see. They don't particularly
36:35
even look alike. They're just the same person.
36:41
Yeah, it's just the same person. It doesn't matter
36:45
that they're... They look very different. Eggington's
36:50
all tattooed. But their careers are almost the
36:52
same. Like, their fighting styles are both terrible
36:56
for themselves. Yeah, bad for their health. Their
37:00
accents are fucking atrocious. West Midlands?
37:05
I don't know. I don't know British accents that
37:08
well. I can't. copy them but like hard to understand
37:16
british accent from i don't know if he's from
37:20
a small town but i associate it with rural poor
37:23
people anyways the boxer card was what it was
37:27
it wasn't super exciting i don't think especially
37:30
not when the main and co -main end so fast and
37:34
it was a it was just a matter of seeing like
37:38
what happened with whittaker was he really messed
37:43
up or not he got bailed out by the politics yeah
37:49
he did i don't think that answered any questions
37:52
for me other than is whittaker really a bitch
37:55
yes would it be better if he didn't act like
38:00
a little bitch afterwards yes it would be because
38:04
like we always i always blame the fighter benefiting
38:08
from crappy politics when they probably have
38:14
very little to do with it. I think they don't.
38:19
Yeah, but I also generally try not to attack
38:26
the fighter, but I just don't like Ben Whittaker.
38:29
His attitude is terrible. His personality is
38:33
awful. So, any reason I have to dislike him,
38:37
I'll take it. If a fighter I like benefits from
38:42
shit like that, I don't say anything. Consistency.
38:50
I have never claimed to be impartial. Not once.
38:57
Moving to Eubank Jr. vs. Connor Ben. Some fun
39:03
stuff. This card kind of sucked. Yeah. In my
39:07
opinion. I liked the Anthony Yard fight. I thought
39:11
that one was fun. It was okay. I know I watched
39:16
the whole thing, but the British fights are literally
39:19
in the middle of the night for me, and I don't
39:21
remember anything. I missed Chris Billum -Smith.
39:27
Heard he did well. Glanton was competitive, but
39:32
it was really clear for CBS. Yes. Yeah, okay.
39:37
I do remember now that I look at their faces.
39:39
Yeah, Glanton tried. He was there to give an
39:42
honest effort. Like, he didn't just shell up
39:45
or anything. But CBS was just better. Yeah. I'm
39:51
kind of glad to see that he isn't broken after
39:53
that ass -kicking. Oh. Like, Zerto beat the fuck
39:58
out of him. He did get a cut in the same -ish
40:04
spot. as he had from the Zerto fight. So I wonder
40:08
if that's not going to be a problem for him going
40:10
forward. Hmm. What would it look like if he was
40:14
broken from his previous fight? I just... You
40:20
know, some guys... Lateral movement? Yeah. You
40:24
know, some guys are just scared to get hit. Yeah.
40:28
Even when their opponent isn't that good. Yeah,
40:33
I have to say Brandon Glanton was not as bad
40:36
as I thought he would be. Like, I didn't know
40:40
who he was, but people on the Discord chat while
40:43
the fights were on, they all knew who he was.
40:45
But to me, he was just some random American.
40:50
Was he American? Pretty sure. Yeah. He's like
40:54
from the army or something, isn't he? Or he played
40:57
football. He played football professionally.
41:00
And then switched to boxing. But CBS just out
41:07
-skilled him. Just all around better. He looked
41:11
good. I am happy about that. I kind of like CBS.
41:17
He seems like a decent guy. You know who didn't
41:22
look very good? It was Liam Smith. That made
41:26
me really sad. I like Liam Smith. He's my favorite
41:30
of the Smith brothers. But I think he's just
41:33
getting a little old. Yeah, that's exactly what
41:38
it is. He's going to go in and he's going to
41:41
give it a good effort. And this is a hard one
41:45
because he doesn't look completely washed. He
41:47
just looks like he's not that good anymore. You
41:51
know what I mean? Like Manny Pacquiao and his
41:54
last outing? Yeah, exactly. liam smith doesn't
41:59
take that much damage usually he's not he's not
42:03
one of those guys that seems like he's getting
42:05
screwed over fighting too long like he seems
42:09
like he's still healthy and everything yeah but
42:12
he also seems like he just he's not gonna do
42:17
anything spectacular anymore and i kind of just
42:20
want him to retire and be happy but i'm not worried
42:24
about his health yet which is usually why i want
42:27
people to retire Yeah. Yeah, that was the thing.
42:31
You nailed it. He didn't look terrible. It's
42:36
just obvious that he's showing his age. He's
42:39
showing the mileage. It's a precarious time because
42:45
he could keep going. But do you just want to
42:49
have more outings like this where the margin
42:52
just gets wider and wider out of your favor?
42:55
Yeah, and you just become like, not really a
42:58
journeyman, but kind of. Like you're a gatekeeper,
43:02
I guess. And you just become a name that people
43:05
start putting on their resume. And I don't want
43:08
Liam Smith to be that guy. But I hadn't seen
43:13
this McKenna kid before, I don't think. He kind
43:17
of surprised me. I thought he looked really good.
43:21
Yeah, I've seen him a few times. I'm trying to
43:27
think of how to put it, but it was a really solid
43:29
performance. A lot better than what I've seen
43:32
out of him previously. He had shown signs of
43:34
it, but this was special. He looked good. Like
43:40
I said, Liam Smith didn't look like shit. He
43:43
just wasn't as good. I'll have to start watching
43:48
this Aaron McKenna. I like Irish fighters usually.
43:54
Is he Irish? Although, yeah. I guess he lives
43:58
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44:01
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47:06
Chris Eubank vs. Connor Ben. I was very surprised.
47:13
Me too. In a good way. Yes. This fight was not
47:17
supposed to be this good. No, it was not. And
47:21
so far this year, my fight of the year. Oh, we're
47:27
coming up on that time. The half year. The mid
47:31
years. There's a couple of those Japanese ones
47:35
that I can't think of right now that are probably
47:38
also up there. But recency bias included. This
47:45
was a fuck of a fight. This was really fun. I
47:48
really enjoyed it. And I think it is entirely
47:53
because they picked the right weight for it to
47:56
be at to make it a fun fight. I think if you'd
47:59
have made Eubank weigh in any lower, he would
48:03
have not been able to do it. He would have been
48:05
drained. Yeah. Well, I just think he didn't make
48:09
weight. He made the re -weight, but he didn't
48:12
make weight for the day before. But if you let
48:17
him, if there had been no rehydration clause,
48:23
or if the weight had been slightly higher, or
48:26
all these other things, I think Eubank just kicks
48:28
the shit out of Conor Benn. He's just bigger.
48:32
But whoever set this contract picked the perfect
48:35
conditions for this fight. Man, he only missed
48:40
weight by eight ounces. Yeah, that's half a pound,
48:47
right? Yeah. I'm not good at ounces. And it cost
48:52
him literally a million dollars. Half a mil,
48:56
but yes, it cost him a lot of money. And it was
49:00
.05. Not .5. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I misunderstood
49:12
then. No, I misspoke. It was a very small amount.
49:21
And he... Yeah, and he ended up losing a shit
49:26
ton of money for it. Yep. One interesting thing
49:30
I saw after on the internet. So the trunks were
49:35
a recreation of the trunks that their dads wore
49:38
during their fight. So if you look at old pictures
49:42
or rewatch the fight, it's on YouTube. They're
49:46
exact replicas of the shorts that their dads
49:48
were wearing, which I thought was pretty interesting.
49:52
And I should have clicked when Ben had Destroyer
49:56
on the back of his shorts because that's not
49:58
his nickname. But I didn't click. I saw it later
50:03
in an article online. What were your thoughts
50:07
on the Eubank -Ben fight? It was entertaining.
50:14
It was a lot more entertaining than I could have
50:17
possibly expected. What I didn't... What I hope
50:22
is that nobody took too much away from it because
50:25
it wasn't that high -level chess match kind of
50:32
thing. No, it was not. It was not the most talented
50:37
fight I've ever seen. Yeah, you shouldn't be
50:40
putting either of these guys on your pound -for
50:42
-pound list because of this. No, and also, like,
50:47
this fight realistically shouldn't have been
50:50
happening. They're nowhere near the same weight.
50:53
No, they're not. Yeah, like, Ben weighed in 150
50:59
-something. Like, he was a few pounds off. Yeah,
51:06
I think he was 157, maybe. Yeah, 157. That sounds
51:12
right. Ugh, Connor Ben spells his name wrong.
51:16
What, 1N? Yeah, well, he took 1N out of his first
51:21
name and put it on his last name. Yeah, Ben weighed
51:24
in at 156 .5, and Eubank Jr. is listed at 160,
51:31
but he missed it by whatever you said, like half
51:33
an ounce. Yeah. Which is crazy. Anything more
51:41
for Eubank? Oh, there was a rematch clause both
51:48
ways. Oh, fun. Yeah, so... Rumor is that Ben
51:55
wants to activate it. I don't know if I need
52:00
to see it again. Yeah, I don't think... I don't
52:02
feel like I need to. The rematch isn't going
52:06
to be as good. No. Like... I just... This was
52:13
way better than I expected, and I would like
52:15
them to just leave it alone. Having it at the
52:21
soccer stadium there was also kind of cool. It
52:25
was packed. It was packed, and the crowd was
52:28
in it. The atmosphere was great. If anybody missed
52:34
it, it's worth going and watching. Even if you
52:36
know who wins, it's an all action. Like they
52:39
met in the middle of the ring multiple times
52:42
and just swung, which is what I like. It's not
52:45
a technical high level fight or anything. It's
52:49
just fucking fun. Yeah. It's just two dudes beating
52:52
each other up. Ben has a chin. Yes. Ben has a
52:57
fuck of a chin. And Eubank, the weight. requirements
53:03
were hard on eubank you can tell he started a
53:06
little slow he got rocked a couple times and
53:09
he didn't do real good in those middle rounds
53:13
and yeah really fun i think the right guy won
53:18
i also just don't like connor ben but people
53:22
should go watch it it was competitive but it
53:26
was really clear like the cards came out eight
53:28
to four eight to four and I think one of them
53:31
was 7 -5, and that to me was a lot closer than
53:35
it should have been. Yeah, it was clear that
53:40
Eubank won, I think, but it was still fun. Yes,
53:46
absolutely. I don't know how else to describe
53:48
it. It was just a really fun fight. If you like
53:51
people monging out, like... This is your jam.
53:56
And this is why I would much rather watch two
54:00
mid -level guys who aren't that good fight than
54:04
some fucking master class of technique and skill
54:08
and all that stuff. Shepard Stevenson? Fucking
54:12
boring as hell. Just, no. But, I am also not
54:20
a high class person. I like when they do... degrade
54:24
into just fist fights this was this was a great
54:27
fight it was entirely worth me staying up in
54:30
the middle of the night to watch and i wasn't
54:33
100 sure it was gonna be and i think in japan
54:37
it cost me like 2000 yen which is 17 bucks american
54:43
or something yeah yeah totally worth it I will
54:49
complain that this weekend, everywhere else in
54:52
the world seems to get a bundle on DAZN with
54:55
the Times Square and Canelo cards. I don't get
54:59
to bundle them, but they are cheap. So, I mean,
55:02
I think I'm still paying less than everybody
55:04
else, but there was no double -header deal for
55:08
me. I think the bundle option was $120. Yeah,
55:19
and it's still much cheaper for me buying them
55:21
both separately, but there was no bundle deal.
55:24
Yeah. I think here they're each about $30. Yikes.
55:31
That is how much they cost individually. Yeah,
55:36
but you have to remember that they start, like
55:39
the undercard starts at like 7 a .m. Oh, right.
55:43
That part always does escape me. So, like, I'm
55:50
setting alarms and waking up early to watch these
55:53
fights on my holiday weekend. But worth it. Well,
56:00
actually, the card today was not worth it, but
56:02
we'll talk about that next week. Yeah, that was
56:05
not. Moving to some stuff coming up. I forgot
56:15
to get the info on that one. Top rank. Where
56:21
are we starting? I'm kind of looking at it. I
56:26
don't recognize most of these names. Giovanni
56:29
Santillan will be fun to see where he's at. I
56:35
do recognize his name. He's the guy who fought
56:38
Brian Norman for the title. Should I know who
56:43
Angel Beltran is? I don't think so. This is a
56:49
huge side tangent, but do you remember Angel
56:53
Manfredi? I remember the name. Yeah, yeah. That's
56:58
all. So I didn't realize that his last name was
57:03
Manfredi. I thought his nickname was Angel Man
57:07
and his first name was Freddy. And I did not
57:12
realize this until we watched the Arturo Gatti
57:16
fight on YouTube because they give you the titles
57:19
on YouTube. But my entire childhood, I've seen
57:23
that fight multiple times. I've seen Angel Man
57:26
Freddy fight multiple times. I thought his nickname
57:31
was Angel Man and his first name was Freddy.
57:36
I mean, that is pretty cool. name to have. It's
57:43
still stupid, but yeah. It is a little silly,
57:48
yes, but it's alright. It's like misheard lyrics,
57:54
I guess. Who did Giovanni fight last time? If
57:58
I recall correctly, it was Brian Norman. I don't...
58:06
He's had one fight since then that I didn't see.
58:09
But yes, Brian Norman is the one I was thinking
58:12
of. Oh, and then you fought Frederick Lawson.
58:19
In Phoenix. Yeah, I'm about to check what card
58:21
that is. Yeah, I got snubbed. Happens to me a
58:28
lot. Ix. I do not recognize this Angel guy, but
58:36
his picture isn't very good on BoxRec either.
58:45
Angelman Beltran? I kind of hope Santillan looks
58:54
good. Yeah, hopefully. But I do like upsets as
59:00
well. For the interim IBF lightweight title,
59:08
who's the lightweight champion right now? Lomachenko
59:13
still? Can't be, is it? I think he still is,
59:19
even though he's a year inactive. That's ridiculous.
59:29
Has Lomachenko only been gone a year? Yeah. Crazy.
59:36
Seems way longer than that. But Ray Moritaya
59:41
versus Zaur Abdullaev. Is it Abdullaev? Yes.
59:47
No, he's Armenian. No. Also, that's not what
59:52
I was saying yes to. Vasily Lomachenko is the
59:56
IBF World Lightweight Champion. Of course he
1:00:00
is. Ridiculous. This must be, yeah, you said
1:00:06
it's for the intro. Yep. I like cheering for
1:00:14
the guys who are in weird, or from weird countries.
1:00:21
But Murataya should win this, right? I think
1:00:27
so. BoxRec has them at 5th and 6th. In the IBF
1:00:36
rankings, they are 4th and 2nd. So, evenly matched,
1:00:44
I guess, which is good. Abdullov is originally
1:00:54
Russian as well. Oh, okay. He lives in Armenia
1:00:58
now, but he's Russian. I see. Yeah, I'm going
1:01:03
to have to cheer for the American on this one,
1:01:05
I think. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate,
1:01:09
you call it. But whoever wins, Lomachenko's retired.
1:01:19
Yeah, it's enough of the games. Stop holding
1:01:24
up the belts. IBFC is really, really good about
1:01:28
stripping people, too. I'm kind of surprised.
1:01:31
Yeah, I am too. And in the main event, WBO 130
1:01:36
title, Emmanuel Navarrete versus Charlie Suarez.
1:01:43
I love Navarrete. Yeah. I think he should win
1:01:48
this pretty fast. Handily? Yeah, I'll stand by
1:01:52
the pretty fast, actually. I think he's going
1:01:54
to get a knockout. How quickly do you think?
1:02:02
Charlie Suarez looks like such a loser on BoxRec.
1:02:06
His picture is not nice. Oh, no. That's just
1:02:09
unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Oh, jeez. Based
1:02:14
on that picture, like round three. He looks like
1:02:19
he could be a Dragon Ball Z character. He does.
1:02:23
That is a very anime caller in that picture.
1:02:28
Yeah. He is from the Philippines, so he's actually
1:02:34
probably pretty durable, I would assume. Yeah,
1:02:37
I would assume as well. I'm going to say Navarrete
1:02:44
in the eighth round. Eighth. Eighth. That's my
1:02:52
prediction. All right. I don't really have one.
1:02:59
Nav should win this one, though. That much to
1:03:03
be as clear. Anything more for top rank? Nah,
1:03:08
I think that is a very lopsided card, to be honest.
1:03:13
Yes, it is. The co -main should be fun. Looks
1:03:18
like it will be. Yeah. I just don't know who
1:03:22
this Abdullav guy is. I don't think I've seen
1:03:25
him before. I haven't seen him before either
1:03:29
that I can recall. He beat Jorge Linares in 2022.
1:03:35
Pretty far past his... Yeah, I just... That's
1:03:44
the only name I'm really recognizing. The rest
1:03:47
of these fights were in other countries against
1:03:52
people I don't know. It's another card. This
1:03:56
is a pretty busy weekend, but they're not all
1:03:59
that great. Probox, just really quick. Erickson
1:04:05
Lubin versus Ardriel Holmes. I said it on B -Sides.
1:04:10
This is vindication for me. Because I've been
1:04:13
talking about Ardriel Holmes for months. Drip
1:04:19
used to be like, who the fuck is this guy and
1:04:20
why are we talking about him? And I'm like, just...
1:04:25
Trust. This guy's going to be on stuff that you're
1:04:30
watching soon. Well, everybody should be watching
1:04:33
Pro Box anyways. Of course. Pro Box, good. Everyone
1:04:38
else, bad. I am so pissed off that they're not
1:04:42
in the week, though, anymore. I'm still angry
1:04:45
about that. I don't like it either. Wednesday
1:04:48
night was your thing. Keep doing. You should
1:04:53
keep doing your thing. It was working really
1:04:56
well. But that was really it. Erickson Lubin
1:05:00
robbed Jesus Ramos. Don't forget it. Queensberry.
1:05:11
This one will be earlier in the day. I'm actually
1:05:16
excited for the main event on this one. I kind
1:05:19
of forgot it was coming up, but it hasn't gotten
1:05:22
very much press. No. There's one guy on the undercard
1:05:26
that's worth checking out, Sam Noakes. Yeah,
1:05:30
he was the name I recognized as well. Yep. If
1:05:34
you haven't seen him, check him out. Otherwise,
1:05:37
Anthony Caccacci versus Lee Wood. Yeah, I always
1:05:44
like Lee Wood. Yeah, he's fun. He's the comeback
1:05:50
king. I think you're right. He came back against
1:05:58
Josh Warrington. He came back against Lara. He
1:06:02
came back against Conlon. That Conlon last second
1:06:07
knockout was fucking awesome. Through the ropes.
1:06:12
In the 12th round when he was losing so badly.
1:06:18
I don't ever... I say it all the time. I don't
1:06:22
know why I dislike Michael Conlon so much. I
1:06:26
just do. I actually like Michael Conlon. I was
1:06:29
kind of sad about that. But, I mean, how can...
1:06:32
The worst thing about Lee Wood is his haircut.
1:06:36
I fucking hate the broccoli head bullshit. Yeah,
1:06:40
he does have that. But... The way he spells his
1:06:43
name, I always want to call him Lay. Oh. I know
1:06:48
lots of people that use that as a Lee. I also
1:06:53
know an Ashley that spells it like that. Do you
1:06:56
have his box rec open? Yes. Lee Wood? Look at
1:07:00
his alias. Lethal. Yeah. Lathal? Lathal. I say
1:07:09
this, but I hope he wins. Kakachi is unfortunately
1:07:13
a dirty fighter. Kikachi is super dirty. I don't
1:07:17
like Kikachi. But if Lee Wood can handle Warrington's
1:07:23
dirtiness, I think he'll be fine. I think Warrington's
1:07:27
dirtier than Kikachi. Yes, absolutely. He was
1:07:35
on something recently. Josh Warrington? Yeah,
1:07:42
he fought recently. Trying to remember what it
1:07:45
was on. He was down the bill, though. Yeah, yeah,
1:07:54
he was really far down. What was the event? It
1:07:58
was in his hometown. It was in Sheffield. Dalton
1:08:04
Smith card. That's right. Versus Matthew Germain.
1:08:09
Yeah, he fought right after Padley. Now, yeah,
1:08:14
I remember that this was one where, for Dalton
1:08:18
Smith, it was like, why do you not, why is this
1:08:22
going as long as it is? This should be over by
1:08:25
now. Yeah. But, no, I don't like Kakachi. I agree.
1:08:33
I think he's quite a dirty fighter. The best
1:08:38
thing about Kakachi is his name and his nickname.
1:08:43
Yeah, the nickname is really good. The Apache
1:08:47
Kikachi is pretty catchy. But I hope Lee Wood
1:08:52
KOs him. I know Lee Wood's probably the underdog
1:08:55
in this one. He's been on in age, in years. Yeah.
1:09:01
Mileage, I should say. He might be getting on
1:09:06
in years as well. I don't know how old he is.
1:09:09
It is not listed. Yeah, they do that when they
1:09:16
get inactive. They stop tracking their age. That's
1:09:22
weird. Yeah, it is. It's not a... It doesn't
1:09:27
change. Right. And apparently there's a nature
1:09:34
preserve called Lee Woods as well. Imagine being
1:09:41
named after a nature preserve. He is 36. 36?
1:09:46
So he is also getting on in years. Yeah, I thought
1:09:48
we were about the same age. Wow. Yeah. But I
1:09:55
still want him to knock this asshole out. Who
1:09:59
is also 36. Yep. I don't know. I'm definitely
1:10:04
going to tune in for the main event on this one
1:10:06
for sure. I think it should be fun. Leewoods
1:10:09
is always pretty entertaining. Although Kakachi
1:10:14
is kind of dirty and clinchy and stuff, he might
1:10:17
try and slow it down. I think Lee Wood will box.
1:10:23
Same way he did with Lara. Try to bring Kakachi
1:10:30
there. And Lee Wood can fight from a distance
1:10:34
pretty well, actually. Yeah, the second fight
1:10:37
with Lara was fucking beautiful. He performed
1:10:42
really well. So hopefully he can turn into another
1:10:47
one like that. That's it for Queensberry. Last
1:10:51
one in Japan on the 11th. You are not going to
1:10:58
this one? I forgot about this one, but I'm going
1:11:03
to try and buy a ticket. I don't think I can
1:11:06
do my usual through the fighters website. I'm
1:11:09
going to have to. maybe call in a favor but i'm
1:11:15
gonna try and get a ticket it is in that uh ota
1:11:18
city which is just on the other side of tokyo
1:11:21
towards yokohama but close to tokyo i think it's
1:11:26
in tokyo province or prefecture or whatever the
1:11:29
fuck they call them here and uh not tokyo city
1:11:32
okay yeah i'm pretty sure it's in ota is its
1:11:41
own part of the prefecture yeah i don't think
1:11:46
tokyo is actually a city at all if my understanding
1:11:49
is correct tokyo is the province and then it's
1:11:54
just all the cities have gotten so big that they
1:11:57
touch each other inside the province like i think
1:12:01
if you go back a long time shinjuku and shibuya
1:12:05
were two separate towns with a space between
1:12:08
but as they grew they just touch now and it's
1:12:12
all tokyo city now oh yeah i see what you mean
1:12:16
like kind of like the five boroughs in new york
1:12:20
probably started out as different towns and then
1:12:23
became new york city yeah now they're they all
1:12:28
pretty much overlap with each other yeah the
1:12:31
tokyo all overlaps now but I think Ota was one
1:12:38
of the farther out cities that's just in that
1:12:40
province. Headlining this card, Fernando Martinez
1:12:45
versus Kasato Ioka. For the WBA super flyweight
1:12:52
title. Yeah, I went to the first fight and it
1:12:57
was really exciting. Ioka lost it, but it was
1:13:02
competitive and it was exciting. I want to see
1:13:06
the rematch. I have a feeling it's going to go
1:13:08
the same way. I kind of feel like Ioka's just
1:13:12
getting a little too old. Yeah, we were talking
1:13:17
about this before we started. Like, he's 31,
1:13:19
3, and 1. That's... Oh, shit, 3, 1, 3, 1. Cool.
1:13:26
He's on in years. How old is he? 35, 36? He's
1:13:31
36 as well. Everybody's 36, apparently. Oh, heck.
1:13:37
That's pretty... His style also isn't... Mileage.
1:13:43
Yeah, yeah. He gets hit a lot. The IBF is not
1:13:50
on the line this time. It's fucking vacant. Yeah,
1:13:55
they stripped Fernando when he didn't... make
1:14:00
the last fight, right? When he got sick? Yes.
1:14:04
The co -main, Hayato Tsutsumi, I've seen him
1:14:08
a couple times too. He's fine. He's not that
1:14:13
good. He's not that bad. But his little brother
1:14:16
debuted on the Times Square card. I didn't realize
1:14:20
they were brothers until today. I didn't either.
1:14:23
I didn't want to assume that just because they
1:14:26
have the same name. Even though it's a bit kind
1:14:29
of uncommon. Yeah, I just I hadn't realized they
1:14:34
were actually brothers. So that's kind of cool.
1:14:37
Yeah. I don't know who this Jaime Arboleda is.
1:14:45
He's from Panama. His nickname is Jaimito. That's
1:14:59
so cute. He fought William Zepeda in 2023. Polanco.
1:15:11
Chris Colbert in 2020. I just don't think I've
1:15:23
seen him. Maybe I have. I'm kind of excited for
1:15:30
this card, but obviously not that excited because
1:15:33
I forgot it was happening. Yeah, I had almost
1:15:36
forgotten about it, too. Oh. That's all we got,
1:15:44
though. Nice. Let me do the noise thing. There
1:15:51
it is. That's where the outro stuff goes. So.
1:15:57
What? Parting words? Yeah, we're heading into...
1:16:01
This will be coming out on Cinco de Drinko. Nice.
1:16:10
Heading into May 10th weekend. So I am a Toronto
1:16:17
Maple Leafs fan. I know everybody can send in
1:16:19
their hate mail. But the Leafs made it to the
1:16:22
second round of the playoffs. They knocked out
1:16:24
the Senators in... I think it was... Six games?
1:16:28
I'm excited. Round two. Here we come. Fun. It's
1:16:34
really hard to follow hockey in Japan. The time's
1:16:37
not good for me, and nobody cares, but I've been
1:16:42
trying to follow a little bit. And this week
1:16:45
is also Golden Week in Japan, which is just their
1:16:50
long holiday when the weather's nice. So, happy
1:16:53
Golden Week. Happy Golden Week. That is it for
1:17:00
this edition of Boxing Before Dark. This is the
1:17:04
after dark edition for me. I'm still before dark.
1:17:10
All right. We'll see you on the other side. Bye.
1:17:29
Welcome to the fucking show! Alright, just a
1:17:32
quick blurb, just so you can get back to what
1:17:34
you were doing. Why would a boxing fan, let's
1:17:40
assume they're like a purist or some shit, why
1:17:44
would they want to watch MMA, why would they
1:17:47
want to listen to an MMA show? I'm gonna come
1:17:50
at this from sort of like a primal level. So,
1:17:53
I will admit there are like some very, like...
1:17:57
unique and like stark differences between MMA
1:18:00
and boxing and it seems like one of the main
1:18:03
things that keeps boxing fans away from MMA is
1:18:07
the grappling aspect and yet sometimes it can
1:18:10
be you know a lay and pray type of fight and
1:18:14
it can get old but man like it's just instinctual
1:18:19
man some of these people the way they fight in
1:18:22
MMA It's just brutal. And I feel like that's
1:18:25
what it comes down to when it comes to being
1:18:26
a combat fan, a combat sports fan. I mean, we
1:18:31
saw it just recently. Mauricio Rufi versus Bobby
1:18:37
Green, a spinning back or spinning a wheel kick.
1:18:42
Man, I mean, they went viral. And it's something
1:18:45
that everyone can appreciate, even boxing fans.
1:18:47
I know if you have a few friends that are boxing
1:18:50
fans. who I sent him that clip. I mean, and they
1:18:55
were amazed. One even told me that they wish
1:18:58
they would have seen it live because seeing that
1:19:02
type of stuff live just elicits a euphoric feeling
1:19:07
that you can't get. I mean, it happens in boxing,
1:19:10
too, whenever you see an amazing fight. But I
1:19:12
just got to say, in MMA, you get those type of
1:19:17
fights as well, just in a different type. It's
1:19:21
different, but sort of the same. It's sort of
1:19:23
weird how I describe it, but it's different,
1:19:26
but the same. It comes down to that same carnal
1:19:29
or primal instinct of just fights. Yeah, I always
1:19:34
think the easiest transition that I always recommend,
1:19:39
I say this all the time on Ultimate Fucking Casuals,
1:19:42
is if you're not too keen on the grappling, Muay
1:19:48
Thai, and kickboxing. are exactly where you want
1:19:52
to start. Like, you start working on the kicks,
1:19:54
the elbows, the knees, all that stuff, and you
1:19:58
can come to learn to appreciate grappling. I
1:20:02
never thought I would, and here I am. Yeah. Like
1:20:06
I said, some of it is very boring, some of the
1:20:08
grappling. It depends on the fighters, but sometimes,
1:20:11
man, there's boring boxing fights all the time.
1:20:14
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're true. I mean... Oh, you're
1:20:17
right. But, man, some of these grapplers, man,
1:20:19
these scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty
1:20:22
crazy just to see it. Like, you know, rolling
1:20:25
around the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff
1:20:27
that they're doing in between and the scrambles.
1:20:29
I mean, it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone
1:20:30
over, the trips. I mean, it can be fun. But,
1:20:34
yeah, you're right. The easiest transition is
1:20:36
definitely start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing,
1:20:38
and, you know, slowly work your way into MMA.
1:20:42
And, you know, this is the thing about... Of
1:20:45
the ultimate fucking casuals. We will let you
1:20:47
know which fights are going to be good. Which
1:20:50
ones, you know, if you're not too in tune with
1:20:52
the grappling, we can get maybe a little tag
1:20:56
or a little asterisk on certain fights saying,
1:21:00
like, this is a boxing purist type of fight.
1:21:03
You can watch this and enjoy this. Like, we'll
1:21:06
let you know. Yeah, we always try. Like, I came
1:21:10
into this. The whole show was started with me.
1:21:12
I didn't know shit. about MMA. I'd never really
1:21:15
seen an MMA fight in its entirety in my entire
1:21:18
life. And I came into this with nothing. And
1:21:21
yeah, that's where we're at now is like, we're
1:21:24
talking like I make sure I go out of my way to
1:21:27
bring up Muay Thai and bring up kickboxing so
1:21:30
that people know like this for boxing fans to
1:21:34
know this is what this is where you can start.
1:21:38
All right. Well, yeah, that was about it. I really
1:21:41
appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac, for jumping
1:21:44
on real quick. Thanks for having me on. All right.
1:21:47
All right. Just to get right into it, Nathan,
1:21:54
you and I both tried the Strikeman dry fire system.
1:22:00
What did you like about it? No, scratch that.
1:22:04
What did you dislike? about uh i tried i have
1:22:08
the 380 acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what
1:22:12
did you test out and what did you dislike just
1:22:14
to start off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber
1:22:20
uh system um and really my only um complaints
1:22:28
really just came from the platform i was using
1:22:30
so i my 556 is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic.
1:22:37
Just in that context, a little tough to use because
1:22:42
it requires the trigger to be reset before every...
1:22:46
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,
1:22:48
right? Right. You're not relying on the gunpowder
1:22:52
resetting your... recycling around, so you have
1:22:56
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.
1:23:01
But, that being said, there's plenty of other
1:23:04
uh you know different types of systems that use
1:23:08
five five six you don't have to use uh ar style
1:23:13
and the auto system yeah work in that context
1:23:16
when you when you have a big old bolt like that
1:23:18
um sorry i lost my train of thought there let
1:23:24
me chop that up but in in that context um it
1:23:27
was a little tough to use I think this is a system
1:23:31
that's much more oriented towards either bolt
1:23:34
action or a pistol style where you could just
1:23:37
rack the slide, reset the trigger, and then you're
1:23:42
ready to go. Yeah, I had a similar experience
1:23:46
on the 6 .5 Creedmoor. I have a bolt action,
1:23:49
so you don't have to go through the full range
1:23:53
of motion to get it reset, but you do still have
1:23:56
to pop. the bolt and then put it back down to
1:24:00
get, to get the trigger reset. But as you were
1:24:03
alluding to the pistol version, I have my three
1:24:07
80 is a single action, double action. So I don't
1:24:11
have to rack the slide, but I can't, I do still
1:24:14
have to pull down the, uh, the hammer a little
1:24:16
bit to get it to fire off. Gotcha. Uh, what about
1:24:23
the, what did you think about that? I thought
1:24:26
the app was really cool. The setup was very easy.
1:24:30
It took less than five minutes to get the whole
1:24:32
stand and phone configured. I do really like
1:24:36
a lot of the gamified features that are kind
1:24:38
of put in there. So there's like some different
1:24:40
challenges and you can get on kind of leaderboards
1:24:43
and do matches with people. And I think that's
1:24:46
just really cool because, you know, when it comes
1:24:48
to getting better at shooting. one of the best
1:24:51
ways to do that is learning how to shoot under
1:24:54
pressure and so having something that's very
1:24:57
low stakes like this you know that is a it's
1:25:00
gonna force you to be accurate but um it's gonna
1:25:04
do so in a way where it's making you you know
1:25:08
you're not just doing it repetitively to range
1:25:11
you're trying to almost beat yourself or beat
1:25:12
a friend and that competition you know that raising
1:25:16
of the stakes is gonna help you become a calmer
1:25:18
shot over time i think I really enjoy that aspect
1:25:21
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard
1:25:25
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting
1:25:28
is your max effective range, cut that in half,
1:25:33
and that's about what you're looking at shooting
1:25:35
under pressure. So if you're practicing with
1:25:40
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't
1:25:45
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You
1:25:48
know, when you don't have walkers coming down
1:25:50
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just
1:25:53
play around with friends. And also, you're doing
1:25:56
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,
1:25:58
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock
1:26:01
market these last few days, and ammo could become
1:26:04
significantly more expensive. But now with the
1:26:07
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you
1:26:13
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.
1:26:17
You can take your time in the comfort of your
1:26:19
own home and practice all you want. Man, that
1:26:23
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.
1:26:25
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.
1:26:33
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that
1:26:36
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.
1:26:39
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a
1:26:43
lot more practice. but good to find out here
1:26:48
i think being on that timer too really shows
1:26:51
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill
1:26:55
that i i need to work on you know there might
1:26:57
be it's also different ranges this is similar
1:27:01
to like archery or long range shooting really
1:27:03
but like you could be really good at 100 yards
1:27:06
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and
1:27:09
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right
1:27:12
so this this is you know being able to very quickly
1:27:15
just change the the ranges that you're shooting
1:27:17
at again just in your home in your backyard whatever
1:27:20
like that's a really really helpful uh skill
1:27:25
you can hone with this system Yeah. Well, overall,
1:27:32
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?
1:27:36
It really depends on what it is that you're trying
1:27:38
to do or what you're trying to practice with.
1:27:42
I can't speak to any of the other calibers, but
1:27:45
if it's like a handgun caliber, I always say
1:27:49
if you can get a single double, get a single
1:27:53
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.
1:27:58
nonetheless, it should still help to increase
1:28:02
your max effective range under pressure. Like
1:28:05
I said, cut your original in half. Yeah, and
1:28:10
I agree with that recommendation. I think any
1:28:12
kind of pistol caliber is really well suited
1:28:15
to this system. I think if you're going to do
1:28:18
rifle, I think bolt action is probably going
1:28:21
to be your best bet. But yeah, I definitely concur
1:28:24
with your assessment on on its usefulness as
1:28:27
a pistol training tool, which I think is, if
1:28:29
you look at, I think it's what they're aiming
1:28:31
for. Yeah, I think so too. When they were marketing
1:28:34
this. So they did well there. I think they have
1:28:37
shotgun gauges as well. Like that's kind of wild.
1:28:42
Not what I would have expected for like a dry
1:28:46
fire kind of training thing, but hey. Oh, that
1:28:49
sounds like it would actually work because you'd
1:28:52
just be... for a pump action. Yeah. You just,
1:28:55
you know, right. Yeah, that's right. So. All
1:29:01
right. Well, Nate, thanks for jumping on real
1:29:03
quick. Just wanted to get a little bit on the
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