Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Inside Cracker Barrel’s Costly Misstep plus New Rule Lets Workers Invest in Alternative Assets & $800K in EPA Grants Under Fire
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So there are two stories when it comes to the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel fiasco. One is what you know about that
- 0:07Speaker 1: has happened over the last I don't know, ten days.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And then there's the other part of the story. I
- 0:14Speaker 1: want to tell you just how stupid the CEO of
- 0:18Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel and their team actually is.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Now, this is the story you don't know about.
- 0:25Speaker 1: There was a prominent Cracker Barrel investor that warned executives
- 0:30Speaker 1: that they were walking into quote a text book trap.
- 0:35Speaker 2: That's right.
- 0:36Speaker 1: One of Cracker Barrel's largest investors literally sent up a
- 0:40Speaker 1: red flag last fall regarding the board director's rebranding plan
- 0:46Speaker 1: for the company, but it went unheeded.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Now that was last fall.
- 0:52Speaker 1: In fact, it was a two page critique dated November thirteenth,
- 0:56Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Start R Big Laurie, who owns about
- 1:01Speaker 1: five percent, which is a lot of the restaurant chains stock,
- 1:05Speaker 1: wrote his fellow shareholders that the Cracker Barrell transformation was
- 1:09Speaker 1: quote a mistake of misguided executives falling for quote a
- 1:13Speaker 1: textbook trap of overspending on cosmetic remodeling.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Here is his exact words.
- 1:21Speaker 1: The day Cracker Burrough opened, it was already old its
- 1:24Speaker 1: theme derived from the nineteen twenties. I am concerned that
- 1:28Speaker 1: not only will the remodel not work, but it could
- 1:31Speaker 1: actually damage the brand further. These decisions are taking us
- 1:36Speaker 1: down the same path, he said. I believe as Ruby
- 1:39Speaker 1: Tuesday's Red Lobster, TGI Fridays and the likes. Let me
- 1:44Speaker 1: make my position clear. The shareholder said the coming seven
- 1:47Speaker 1: hundred million dollar remodel plan will not work. In a
- 1:51Speaker 1: private letter to shareholders on October the twenty fourth, the
- 1:54Speaker 1: man called the board's transformation plan obvious folly. The investment
- 2:00Speaker 1: is also a major investor in Stake and Shake Friendlies
- 2:04Speaker 1: and Western Sizzelin. Shareholders ultimately sided with the Cracker Barrell CEO,
- 2:10Speaker 1: who took the position with the company last year. They
- 2:13Speaker 1: rejected the shareholder's bid to become a member of the
- 2:15Speaker 1: board and instead elected Cracker Barrell's slate of ten recommended
- 2:20Speaker 1: nominees on November the twenty first of twenty twenty four,
- 2:24Speaker 1: a bunch of yes people for a predictable, woke CEO
- 2:29Speaker 1: management tow The vote is an endorsement of the transformation
- 2:33Speaker 1: as the quote right path to return Crackerbell to growth
- 2:36Speaker 1: and meaningful value creation for all shareholders. The rollout of
- 2:40Speaker 1: Crockerbell's new logo did not go well, and that's the
- 2:43Speaker 1: story you know about. You would think that companies would
- 2:48Speaker 1: learn from the fiascos and the disasters of woke ideology.
- 2:52Speaker 1: A great example of that is what happened with bud
- 2:56Speaker 1: Light using a transgendered person aka a dude acting like
- 2:59Speaker 1: a to try to.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Promote their brand. We all know how that ended.
- 3:05Speaker 1: You would also think that CEOs in twenty twenty five
- 3:08Speaker 1: would understand that there's quite a few Americans out there
- 3:11Speaker 1: that just want brands to be normal and not push
- 3:14Speaker 1: in agenda, or if they have a core audience, don't
- 3:19Speaker 1: be ashamed of them and who they actually are. Well,
- 3:23Speaker 1: you would think that CEOs of companies would understand that
- 3:26Speaker 1: insert cracker barrel aiming to quote modernize. Under the new
- 3:31Speaker 1: CEO appointed in twenty twenty three, they decided it was
- 3:35Speaker 1: a good idea to trash an entire brand, but not
- 3:38Speaker 1: just the brand, actually trash the customers that had propped
- 3:43Speaker 1: up that brand for decades. They unveiled what they described
- 3:47Speaker 1: as a minimalist text only logo and updated the restaurant
- 3:51Speaker 1: de core, dropping the iconic image of Uncle herschel the
- 3:56Speaker 1: overalls clad man leaning on a barrel, and removing the
- 4:01Speaker 1: quote old country store from all of their branding. Yes,
- 4:06Speaker 1: it was a slap in the face or a middle finger,
- 4:08Speaker 1: however you want to describe it to the customers that
- 4:12Speaker 1: love Cracker Barrel Oil. Customers and branding critics then slammed
- 4:17Speaker 1: the changes, accusing the chain of abandoning not only its
- 4:21Speaker 1: nostalgic but also its Southern Country identity. The company's stock
- 4:29Speaker 1: tumbled by more than ten percent, in fact, to seventeen
- 4:32Speaker 1: percent if you look at the latest reports, and the
- 4:35Speaker 1: brand lost as much as one hundred million dollars in
- 4:39Speaker 1: its valuation. But apparently that wasn't enough for Cracker Barrel leaders.
- 4:45Speaker 1: They stuck to their plan day after day as it
- 4:48Speaker 1: continued to get out of control, and then when they
- 4:52Speaker 1: knew they had a real problem, they went on Good
- 4:54Speaker 1: Morning America. The Cracker Barrel CEO on the restaurant renovations
- 4:59Speaker 1: that had made everyone start talking about the brand. Here's
- 5:02Speaker 1: what she had to say when was asked about, Hey,
- 5:06Speaker 1: did you guys maybe make a mistake?
- 5:08Speaker 3: And I got to asked this question, I believe I'd
- 5:10Speaker 3: probably know to answer. What if all the customers are
- 5:14Speaker 3: coming at you hard enough about the look at a restaurant,
- 5:17Speaker 3: and they want to go back to the old way.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Would you do it?
- 5:20Speaker 4: Honestly, the feedback's been overwhelmingly positive that people like what
- 5:23Speaker 4: we're doing. I'll give you another SoundBite. I actually happened
- 5:26Speaker 4: to be in Orlando last week with all of our managers.
- 5:28Speaker 4: We bring them together and once every other year, and
- 5:32Speaker 4: the number one question that I got asked Michael was
- 5:34Speaker 4: how can I get a remodel? When can I get
- 5:36Speaker 4: a remodel? How do I get on the list? Really so,
- 5:38Speaker 4: because the feedback and the buzz is so good, not
- 5:41Speaker 4: only from our customers but from our team members. They
- 5:44Speaker 4: want to work in a wonderful restaurant. So we're doing
- 5:47Speaker 4: everything for our guests and our team members.
- 5:49Speaker 3: When Julia Messino, it's wonderful to have you here, pleasure
- 5:51Speaker 3: to thank you. I answer those questions for all the
- 5:54Speaker 3: Crack and Berry fans out there. There's a lot of great.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Changes, Thank you so much, a lot of great changes.
- 6:00Speaker 1: How Good Morning America put it well? That didn't go
- 6:02Speaker 1: over well. Fast forward to Monday and finally Cracker Barrel
- 6:06Speaker 1: admitted defeat and their woke CEO. Realizing she had a
- 6:10Speaker 1: very big problem on her hands, Cracker Barrell acknowledged that
- 6:14Speaker 1: it quote could have done a better job of sharing
- 6:17Speaker 1: who we are and who will always be, Attempting to
- 6:21Speaker 1: calm the furious customer base that had abandoned the store,
- 6:25Speaker 1: Their public communications team emphasized that quote beloved elements like
- 6:30Speaker 1: Uncle Herschel rocking chairs out front, the classic decor would
- 6:35Speaker 1: in fact remain in the stores. And then there's the
- 6:38Speaker 1: politics of this. Donald Trump wide in strongly saying quote
- 6:44Speaker 1: Crackerbrell should go back to the old logo and made
- 6:46Speaker 1: a mistake and manage the company better than ever before.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Hours later, the White House, via the pres Secretary Caroline Levitt,
- 6:55Speaker 1: praise Crackerbrell's decision to revert, say that Trump has unmatched
- 7:01Speaker 1: business instincts and that the brand made a great decision
- 7:05Speaker 1: to trust the President of the United States of America.
- 7:09Speaker 1: By Tuesday evening, Cracker Barrel had changed her tune even more.
- 7:14Speaker 2: They announced it.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Would scrap the new logo entirely and revert to the
- 7:19Speaker 1: original old Timer design with Uncle Herschel and the old
- 7:23Speaker 1: Country store naming back. The company described the change as
- 7:27Speaker 1: listening quote to its customers and reaffirming the importance of tradition, hospitality,
- 7:34Speaker 1: and comfort. Now, Donald Trump's vocal criticism and the public
- 7:39Speaker 1: urging made a massive difference and aligned with widespread customer
- 7:44Speaker 1: outrage as well as the financial losses. And then Cracker
- 7:48Speaker 1: Barrel had to fully admit that the rebrand was a mistake.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Not only was it a mistake because they were ashamed
- 7:54Speaker 1: of apparently their image, they were ashamed of their customer base.
- 7:59Speaker 1: They wanted to be new, trendy and woke. Well, now,
- 8:03Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel said, after losing one hundred million in their
- 8:06Speaker 1: market cap, Okay, I guess we're just gonna go back
- 8:09Speaker 1: to how things were before. Remember, nothing was actually broken.
- 8:13Speaker 1: And this is the bigger question that so many people
- 8:16Speaker 1: should be asking, especially in the advertising, marketing and the
- 8:22Speaker 1: business brand world. Why on earth would you try to
- 8:26Speaker 1: take an iconic brand like Cracker Barrel and change into
- 8:30Speaker 1: something clearly that doesn't align with your customers. It's an
- 8:34Speaker 1: amazing brand, it's a business that people love going into.
- 8:38Speaker 1: The food is actually incredible, and the President United States
- 8:41Speaker 1: of America calling them out was a brilliant move. By
- 8:45Speaker 1: the way, he was also protecting so many of the
- 8:47Speaker 1: people that work there and people that invested in the business.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Job.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Well done to the President the United States of America
- 8:55Speaker 1: for doing this. It'll be very interesting to see how
- 8:58Speaker 1: long the leadership at Cracker Barrel will still be employed
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- 11:25Speaker 1: this actually happened quietly on August seventh, the President signed
- 11:31Speaker 1: an executive order and it opened the door in a
- 11:34Speaker 1: way that we've never seen before to alternative assets in
- 11:38Speaker 1: four oh one case. And what this means is is
- 11:41Speaker 1: going to have a huge impact when it comes to
- 11:44Speaker 1: gold and silver crypto as well. And this was something
- 11:49Speaker 1: that the President put out he was very proud of.
- 11:51Speaker 1: He said, quote by the authority invested in me as
- 11:53Speaker 1: President by the Constitution, in the Laws of the United
- 11:56Speaker 1: States of America. It is hereby ordered, he said, Section
- 11:59Speaker 1: one purpose. Many wealthy Americans and government workers who participate
- 12:03Speaker 1: in public pension plans can invest in or are the
- 12:07Speaker 1: beneficiaries of investments in a number of alternative assets. Yet,
- 12:12Speaker 1: while more than ninety million Americans participate in employer sponsor
- 12:16Speaker 1: defined contribution plans, the vast majority of these investors you
- 12:20Speaker 1: don't have the opportunity to participate either directly or through
- 12:23Speaker 1: their retirement plans. And then potential growth and diversification opportunities
- 12:28Speaker 1: associated with alternative asset investments. So what does this actually
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- 12:50Speaker 1: e PM dot com, Kurt. This was a big move
- 12:54Speaker 1: by the President United States of America. There was a
- 12:56Speaker 1: lot of people that didn't like this because it allowed
- 12:59Speaker 1: for these alternative investments which others have been able to
- 13:02Speaker 1: capitalize on, and he's saying he wants to make sure
- 13:05Speaker 1: that Americans can have that in their four to one K.
- 13:07Speaker 5: This is huge, It's absolutely massive then, and of course
- 13:12Speaker 5: there's going to be some institutions don't like it, the
- 13:15Speaker 5: JP Morgan's of the world, the Bank of Americas of
- 13:17Speaker 5: the world, who deal with these paper assets, right, stocks, bonds,
- 13:21Speaker 5: mutual funds. But what this does is Trump is doing
- 13:25Speaker 5: something that's so great for Americans, and he's kind of
- 13:29Speaker 5: restoring financial freedom, giving people the freedom of choice in
- 13:33Speaker 5: their finances, right. And so this executive order. I've been
- 13:37Speaker 5: doing this for a long time since the early two thousands,
- 13:39Speaker 5: like decades, and I this might be the biggest news ever.
- 13:44Speaker 5: Why because the four to one K markets over twelve
- 13:48Speaker 5: trillion dollars of assets that have already been invested. It's
- 13:52Speaker 5: not like people have to come up with the funds.
- 13:54Speaker 5: It's already there. So what are they going to do
- 13:57Speaker 5: when when you're an investor like you or me, or
- 14:00Speaker 5: any of the listeners on this show is thinking, WHOA,
- 14:04Speaker 5: I've been wanting to do cryptocurrency. I've been wanting to
- 14:07Speaker 5: do gold in silver, but all my assets are in
- 14:09Speaker 5: my four owe K. I couldn't do it right. So now,
- 14:14Speaker 5: in this executive order, in Part Section three, Part C,
- 14:21Speaker 5: within one hundred and eighty days of this order, this
- 14:24Speaker 5: is going to become effective. That's the first week in February.
- 14:27Speaker 5: So what's going to become effective? Well, let's read Section three.
- 14:32Speaker 5: Private market investments, including direct and indirect investments in equity, debt,
- 14:36Speaker 5: or other financial instruments not traded on public exchanges. That's
- 14:41Speaker 5: OTC markets over the counter like penny stocks.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Right.
- 14:45Speaker 5: How about direct and indirect investments in real estate? Wow,
- 14:49Speaker 5: real estate. I can actually own commercial real estate investment
- 14:53Speaker 5: property in my fore o K yep. How about actively
- 14:57Speaker 5: managed investment vehicles in digital assets that's cryptocurrency. Part four
- 15:02Speaker 5: Directing indirected investments in commodities, Well, gold and silver is
- 15:07Speaker 5: a commodity. What Trump is saying, and here's the cool thing,
- 15:11Speaker 5: what's an indirect investment in the commodity that would be
- 15:14Speaker 5: like a gold or silver etf it's already available, but
- 15:18Speaker 5: direct would be actual physical ownership. Is the way that
- 15:21Speaker 5: I read this. So what Trump just did is he said, Hey,
- 15:26Speaker 5: I want Americans to have a choice in their financial future.
- 15:30Speaker 5: This is amazing and we needed a strong president, a
- 15:33Speaker 5: strong leader to actually make this happen. So when you
- 15:36Speaker 5: look at this, what are the consequences and what are
- 15:39Speaker 5: the benefits. Well, the benefits are alternative assets because increased
- 15:43Speaker 5: demand should go through the roof, right, because it's like, wow,
- 15:48Speaker 5: we've got people that have captive assets where they had
- 15:51Speaker 5: very little choice, maybe ten twenty mutual funds that they
- 15:55Speaker 5: could pick in their four one K that was it. Well,
- 15:58Speaker 5: now they're going to be able to do this. Are
- 16:00Speaker 5: going to say, I don't have any assets available except
- 16:02Speaker 5: for the stuff of my phone k. I am going
- 16:05Speaker 5: to sell my current stocks, bonds, mutual funds and reallocate,
- 16:09Speaker 5: reposition myself into these alternative assets that I couldn't do before.
- 16:14Speaker 5: So I think that's going to put massive selling pressure
- 16:18Speaker 5: on the stock market bend and you're going to see
- 16:20Speaker 5: prices come down, but as as the flip side of
- 16:24Speaker 5: that coin, you're going to see alternative investments like gold, silver,
- 16:27Speaker 5: cryptocurrency go up and go up a lot because they
- 16:31Speaker 5: already have limited supply. When you have low supply and
- 16:34Speaker 5: high demand, prices go up and they're poised to go
- 16:37Speaker 5: up a lot.
- 16:38Speaker 2: I mean, this is inviting, insiting.
- 16:41Speaker 5: This.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Financial Times has an article right now about this, talking
- 16:44Speaker 1: about how this executive order not only opens or to
- 16:47Speaker 1: a ton of assets and four one k they said,
- 16:50Speaker 1: here are the key considerations that.
- 16:52Speaker 2: You should be looking at.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Number one on their list is gold and silver, and
- 16:57Speaker 1: then they go into crypto as well, and they're saying
- 16:59Speaker 1: that this is going to allow the average American who
- 17:03Speaker 1: has been left behind to go direct and indirect investments
- 17:06Speaker 1: and commodities that will allow them to gain real wealth
- 17:10Speaker 1: over the long term. And they said this also allows
- 17:13Speaker 1: for the financing quote infrastructure that needed to be developed
- 17:16Speaker 1: for the little guy. That's how they described it, saying,
- 17:20Speaker 1: now it's a fair playing field. That's why the President
- 17:22Speaker 1: did this, and this is something that's going to happen,
- 17:25Speaker 1: by the way, in one hundred and eighty days. Dating
- 17:28Speaker 1: it back to August the seventh, So there is time
- 17:31Speaker 1: to plan for this for Americans as well take advantage
- 17:34Speaker 1: of it.
- 17:35Speaker 5: Well, absolutely, And this is where you can profit and
- 17:39Speaker 5: you can benefit from things when you're ahead of the game.
- 17:42Speaker 5: I would rather be six months early than one day late, right,
- 17:45Speaker 5: And so when Financial Times said it amazingly, well, it's
- 17:50Speaker 5: like this is for the little guy. Well wait a second,
- 17:53Speaker 5: I thought TOMP was only for the big guys and
- 17:55Speaker 5: only for corporate America. It's like, Hm, the actions so differently,
- 17:59Speaker 5: don't they. And so this is just so exciting that
- 18:02Speaker 5: we can finally participate in the alternative investments that big
- 18:07Speaker 5: hedge funds, that big international center, you know, monetary banks
- 18:12Speaker 5: globally like the Banks of America and the JP, Morton
- 18:14Speaker 5: Chase and the HSBC all do these kinds of things already.
- 18:19Speaker 5: Now we can participate in that in our four to
- 18:21Speaker 5: one case. So if you have four one ks.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Let me ask you a real life question on this.
- 18:25Speaker 1: So the other day, literally I bought one hundred ounces
- 18:30Speaker 1: a fine silver. It's it's just a brick. It's simple,
- 18:33Speaker 1: it's basic. It's what you guys actually do. Can I
- 18:36Speaker 1: now do that moving forward? But have it in my
- 18:39Speaker 1: four to one K explain that the application of this
- 18:42Speaker 1: in layman's terms.
- 18:44Speaker 5: Yeah, so the answer is yes, So bullion, like what
- 18:49Speaker 5: you're talking about, the one hundred ounces bars is solver,
- 18:52Speaker 5: the ten ounces bars of silver, the generic refinery rounds,
- 18:55Speaker 5: those have already been accessible in I RaSE. You do
- 18:59Speaker 5: that in irs, if you have an IRA, you could
- 19:01Speaker 5: already do that, but it was never available in four
- 19:03Speaker 5: one ks before until now, until this executive order.
- 19:07Speaker 1: So I can basically say I want to buy this,
- 19:10Speaker 1: but I want it to be in part of my
- 19:12Speaker 1: portfolio of my four to one K that I'm going
- 19:14Speaker 1: to do every single year, right, because I do it
- 19:16Speaker 1: for the tax and benefits. And I can set it
- 19:18Speaker 1: up now and just say I want part of this
- 19:20Speaker 1: to be in silver or gold.
- 19:23Speaker 5: Yeah. So not exactly today, but in February when this
- 19:27Speaker 5: becomes effective. It's going to take a while for some
- 19:30Speaker 5: of these four to one K administrators to actually build
- 19:33Speaker 5: this into their systems, right, But what can we do
- 19:36Speaker 5: in the meantime, So come February, there's going to be
- 19:39Speaker 5: a ton of demand for metals which are already running out.
- 19:44Speaker 5: You know LBMA just came out, which is the London depository.
- 19:47Speaker 5: It's where it's the depository that holds metals, gold and
- 19:51Speaker 5: silver for central banks and big institutions all over the world.
- 19:55Speaker 5: They basically run out of silver. They just made then
- 19:57Speaker 5: constense like, well, we don't have enough to cover physical
- 19:59Speaker 5: deliver Comax, which is the depository for North America. They're
- 20:06Speaker 5: running so low. This this is wild then, so they
- 20:10Speaker 5: have well over three hundred ounces of silver in futures
- 20:14Speaker 5: contracts paper for every one ounce of physical silver. So
- 20:18Speaker 5: it's like, how could you do that? What if somebody
- 20:21Speaker 5: says you're Samsung, you're Sony, your Lgae, you're Boeing or
- 20:25Speaker 5: Lockheed Martin, and you say I need physical silver, and
- 20:29Speaker 5: they've been hedging themselves with forward contracts to basically lock
- 20:32Speaker 5: in their prices because we need it to build missiles, torpedoes,
- 20:35Speaker 5: electric vehicles, solar power, whatever, lcdtvs and they want physical delivery. Well,
- 20:42Speaker 5: it's like, oh, they have these contracts out to a
- 20:45Speaker 5: tune of over three hundred paper contracts to one physical
- 20:50Speaker 5: silver ounce. That that doesn't equate. They're not going to
- 20:53Speaker 5: have enough supply. So we could be seeing a massive
- 20:57Speaker 5: short squeeze in front of us. And what does that
- 21:00Speaker 5: mean there's not enough physical silver, and Boeing, Lockheed, Martin, Sony, Samsung,
- 21:05Speaker 5: all these companies are going to say, hmm, I don't
- 21:08Speaker 5: care what the price of silver is. If it's not available,
- 21:11Speaker 5: we can't have a finished product. So they're going to say, well, well,
- 21:14Speaker 5: silver might be trading at forty dollars ounce. Maybe they
- 21:16Speaker 5: say we're going to offer sixty or eighty or one hundred.
- 21:20Speaker 5: They don't care what the price is. Why, because they're
- 21:24Speaker 5: not going to pay for it. They pass that on
- 21:25Speaker 5: to the consumer, right but without silver, they don't have
- 21:28Speaker 5: a finished product.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Incredible.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I want to make sure people can call and reach
- 21:33Speaker 1: out to you guys. This is what you do. It's
- 21:35Speaker 1: literally where I got my I did my investment around
- 21:37Speaker 1: the other day and have this. It's on my desk.
- 21:40Speaker 1: I'm holy right now, one hundred ounces of fine silver.
- 21:43Speaker 1: I also got a little more than that, so I
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- 22:12Speaker 1: two dozen Republican state attorney generals have sent a letter
- 22:16Speaker 1: to the EPA chief Lee Zelden, calling on him to
- 22:20Speaker 1: cancel funding to a left wing environmental group accused of
- 22:25Speaker 1: training and lobbying judges.
- 22:28Speaker 2: On climate policy.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Fox News Digital has exclusively revealed this quote. As Attorney General,
- 22:35Speaker 1: I refuse to stand by while American tax dollars fund
- 22:39Speaker 1: radical environmental training for judges across the country. Is with
- 22:44Speaker 1: the Montana Attorney General told Fox News Digital of his
- 22:48Speaker 1: push to encourage the EPA to end its funding of
- 22:51Speaker 1: the Climate Judiciary Project. Quote, the environmental Law institutes Climate
- 22:57Speaker 1: Judiciary Project is using wote climate propaganda under the guise
- 23:03Speaker 1: of what they call neutral quote unquote education to persuade
- 23:08Speaker 1: judges and push their wildly unpopular agenda through the court system.
- 23:14Speaker 1: He went on to say, I commend President Trump's efforts
- 23:18Speaker 1: to cut waste and abuse during the first eight months
- 23:21Speaker 1: of his presidency, and I am optimistic that his administration
- 23:24Speaker 1: will do the right thing and halt all funding to Eli.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Now he's spearheaded this ag The letter that was sent
- 23:34Speaker 1: to Zelden, which included the signatures of twenty two other
- 23:39Speaker 1: Republican state attorney generals, all of them calling for the
- 23:43Speaker 1: EPA to acts their funding to the left wing environmental nonprofit.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Now they lie and they say that this thing is
- 23:51Speaker 1: like neutral, It's not. It is called the Environmental Law Institute.
- 23:56Speaker 1: They claim they oversee the neutral importance of climate law.
- 24:02Speaker 1: In reality, they oversee the Climate Judiciary Project known as
- 24:07Speaker 1: the CJP. Now, the Environmental Law Institute was founded by
- 24:12Speaker 1: the Climate Judiciary Project in twenty eighteen, which pitches itself
- 24:17Speaker 1: as a quote first of its kind effort that provides
- 24:21Speaker 1: judges nationwide with authoritative, objective, and trusted education on climate science,
- 24:29Speaker 1: the impacts of climate change, and the ways climate science
- 24:33Speaker 1: is arising into the law. The group has actually been
- 24:38Speaker 1: accused of trying to manipulate judges to make them more
- 24:43Speaker 1: understanding or advocates or exciting to left wing climate litigation.
- 24:49Speaker 1: The letters sent Tuesday called on the EPA to specifically
- 24:53Speaker 1: end any and all grants and awards that are endowed
- 24:57Speaker 1: to this group, saying this we write to bring attention
- 25:02Speaker 1: to the grants made by the EPA to the Environmental
- 25:06Speaker 1: Law Institute. The letter reads, according to its twenty twenty
- 25:09Speaker 1: four financial statements, ELI received approximately thirteen percent of its
- 25:14Speaker 1: overall revenue in twenty twenty three and eight point four
- 25:18Speaker 1: percent in twenty twenty four from EPA awards. The group
- 25:22Speaker 1: also apparently still expected to receive funds from the federal government.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Its financial statement warned that the collectibility of federal grant
- 25:31Speaker 1: funds is subject to significant uncertainty related to collaboration and
- 25:38Speaker 1: continual funding due to the federal grant funding freeze or
- 25:42Speaker 1: other federal actions quote unquote. In other words, they knew
- 25:47Speaker 1: Trump was in office, and there's a chance these funds
- 25:49Speaker 1: could go away if they found out what they were
- 25:52Speaker 1: actually doing with the money. Now, the Environmental Law Institute
- 25:56Speaker 1: actually received six hundred and thirty seven thousand chain from
- 26:00Speaker 1: the EPA in twenty twenty four, to be clear, that's
- 26:03Speaker 1: your tax dollars, and then eight hundred and sixty six
- 26:08Speaker 1: thousand in twenty twenty three from the EPA, again your
- 26:11Speaker 1: tax dollars. That according to the nonprofit tax documents that
- 26:16Speaker 1: have been published quote, the Climate Judiciary's project mission is clear.
- 26:22Speaker 1: Lobby judges in order to make climate change policy through
- 26:27Speaker 1: the court systems. The twenty three state Attorney Generals said
- 26:30Speaker 1: this clearly in the letter, saying quote an alumni magazine
- 26:34Speaker 1: profile said the quiet part out loud, writing that the
- 26:37Speaker 1: Climate Judiciary Project co founder was explaining the science of
- 26:42Speaker 1: climate change to a group of people with real power
- 26:46Speaker 1: to act on it, judges. The Climate Judiciary Projects tampering
- 26:51Speaker 1: raises serious legal and also ethical questions. The Environmental Law Institute,
- 26:57Speaker 1: in a recent comment to Fox Digital about this story,
- 27:01Speaker 1: maintains that its only purpose is educational programs, that they
- 27:06Speaker 1: are in accordance where these standards established by the National
- 27:10Speaker 1: Judicial Education Institution. Climate Judiciary Projects educational events are done
- 27:15Speaker 1: quote in partnership with leading national judicial education institutions state
- 27:21Speaker 1: judicial authorities. Also, they claim in accordance where they're accepted standards.
- 27:26Speaker 1: That's what the spokesperson said. Well, the reality is these
- 27:29Speaker 1: are radical lefties and the call for the EPA to
- 27:33Speaker 1: slash any funds to the Environmental Law Institute is long overdue.
- 27:38Speaker 1: It was clearly established and it was established for one
- 27:42Speaker 1: purpose to get in front of judges and make judges
- 27:45Speaker 1: go hard on anyone they believe is not. You know,
- 27:49Speaker 1: woke is not saying that global warming is a fact,
- 27:53Speaker 1: that is doing anything that global warming advocates or the
- 27:56Speaker 1: anarchists say is somehow evil or hurting the earth.
- 28:01Speaker 2: That's why they're lobbying these judges.
- 28:03Speaker 1: The state attorney generals quote are right to call for
- 28:06Speaker 1: the elimination of taxpayer funding for the Environmental Law Institute
- 28:11Speaker 1: and its Climate Judiciary project. That is what Jason Eiscott,
- 28:14Speaker 1: the CEO of American Energy Institute said, saying, quote, this
- 28:19Speaker 1: is a coordinated campaign by the left to advance the
- 28:23Speaker 1: Green New Deal, and this time they want to do
- 28:25Speaker 1: it through the judiciary, using so called climate litigation in
- 28:30Speaker 1: the courts. Its curriculum is clear. It was developed by
- 28:34Speaker 1: climate alarmists and their allies of the plaintiffs and delivered
- 28:39Speaker 1: two judges behind close doors. Public funds should never be
- 28:44Speaker 1: used to finance political advocacy disguised as judicial education. Now
- 28:50Speaker 1: you also look at the executive director of the Alliance
- 28:53Speaker 1: for Consumers, that's a nonprofit focus on advocating on behalf
- 28:57Speaker 1: of American consumers.
- 28:59Speaker 2: What do they say about this quote?
- 29:01Speaker 1: As we have long warned, the left has a plan
- 29:04Speaker 1: to reshape American society by using lawsuits in the courts
- 29:08Speaker 1: all across the country, especially in places like Hawaii and
- 29:13Speaker 1: other coastal enclaves. The new wave of revelations about ELI
- 29:19Speaker 1: is further concerning evidence of how committed, they say the
- 29:23Speaker 1: left is to imposing mandatory progressive lifestyle choices through the
- 29:29Speaker 1: courtroom and are maneuvering to see how big they can
- 29:32Speaker 1: do it and how big of a threat they can
- 29:34Speaker 1: actually be to every one of our way of lives, which,
- 29:37Speaker 1: by the way, is where we should just pause. And
- 29:40Speaker 1: if you think what I'm saying is maybe crazy, let's
- 29:43Speaker 1: just go back a few months ago when there was
- 29:46Speaker 1: a guy named Joe Biden who was in theory the president.
- 29:50Speaker 1: What do they try to do? Do you remember when
- 29:52Speaker 1: they started trying to ban gas stoves? Yes, that was
- 29:56Speaker 1: the left, And how do they start that idea exact
- 30:00Speaker 1: way that we're talking about this right now. They want
- 30:03Speaker 1: to take away your rights, socide. What you want to do?
- 30:06Speaker 1: They want to take away your rights?
- 30:07Speaker 2: Socide?
- 30:08Speaker 1: What type of car you can drive? They want to
- 30:11Speaker 1: make sure that you don't have the option that they
- 30:14Speaker 1: tell you what the value set is and then you
- 30:17Speaker 1: must abide by it, and if you don't they'll literally
- 30:20Speaker 1: arrest you or find you. And this Tuesday letter specifically
- 30:25Speaker 1: argued that quote, state consumer protection laws prohibit deceptive and
- 30:30Speaker 1: misleading statements to market a product. They then say, elias
- 30:35Speaker 1: representing its training as objective when reality shows that it's not.
- 30:40Speaker 1: And the state attorney general is all twenty two of
- 30:42Speaker 1: them are responsible to say, say for protecting consumers, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: we are concerned by this activist group's statements. Now here's
- 30:52Speaker 1: the big point that you need to know. The EPA
- 30:55Speaker 1: has taken a hatchet to millions and millions of dollars
- 30:58Speaker 1: doled out under the Biden Met to left wing radical
- 31:02Speaker 1: groups and other programs deemed a waste of taxpayer funds.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Lee Zelden also making it clear that he is going
- 31:10Speaker 1: to look at this problem and see what he can
- 31:13Speaker 1: do about it. The EPA under the Trump administration has
- 31:16Speaker 1: already canceled more than twenty billion grants under the Inflation
- 31:20Speaker 1: Reduction Act, which has led to ongoing court battles the
- 31:23Speaker 1: same courts right now that liberals are trying to indoctrinate.
- 31:28Speaker 1: And that's exactly why the President United States America picked
- 31:31Speaker 1: lee Zelden and why there's a very good chance what
- 31:34Speaker 1: we just talked about is going to become even more
- 31:36Speaker 1: of a reality moving forward. Don't forget Share this podcast
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