Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Southern Poverty Law Center FUNDS the Klan, plus UCLA Law Students Silence Conservatives
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, come in as Verdict with Center Tech Cruz Ben
- 0:02Speaker 1: Ferguson with you. It's nice to have you on radio
- 0:05Speaker 1: stations listening around the country and Center I. I do
- 0:08Speaker 1: love that I have the upper hand the advantage tonight
- 0:11Speaker 1: and and the level of energy at this show because
- 0:14Speaker 1: you just did like an all nighter on a voter
- 0:17Speaker 1: rama in the Senate.
- 0:18Speaker 2: How that?
- 0:19Speaker 3: How?
- 0:19Speaker 2: How much fun was that?
- 0:20Speaker 1: I just want to know did you did y'all hang out,
- 0:22Speaker 1: spend time together?
- 0:23Speaker 4: What?
- 0:24Speaker 3: Like?
- 0:24Speaker 2: Tell me how that went?
- 0:26Speaker 5: Listen, Ben, I recognize that you're a young guy and
- 0:29Speaker 5: and so your strength Peter's out after a while, but
- 0:33Speaker 5: you got to understand when you were in the battle,
- 0:36Speaker 5: in a long battle. Yes, we were on the Senate
- 0:39Speaker 5: floor until four a m. Last night. We were doing
- 0:43Speaker 5: voter ramana. What is voterama?
- 0:44Speaker 1: Voteramas average age in the Senate it's like nineties. So like,
- 0:48Speaker 1: how did that work?
- 0:49Speaker 6: Yes?
- 0:50Speaker 5: So I'm the teenager that they think I have acne.
- 0:53Speaker 5: I mean, you got to understand it.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Bring the snacks, like how did like you know? I'm
- 0:59Speaker 1: just curious, like did you order the late night pizza
- 1:01Speaker 1: er to someone else?
- 1:02Speaker 5: I'm the comedic relief which tells you how much trouble
- 1:05Speaker 5: we're in. But so we were in reconciliation because it's
- 1:10Speaker 5: the process that we're going to use to fund ice
- 1:14Speaker 5: and customs of border patrol, because the Democrats want to
- 1:17Speaker 5: shut down our border permanently, and reconciliation is the major
- 1:21Speaker 5: exception from the filibuster, which means we can do it
- 1:25Speaker 5: with just Republicans. But when you do it, you do
- 1:29Speaker 5: unlimited amendments. So you do it's called a voter rama.
- 1:31Speaker 5: So the Democrats kept us there till four in the morning,
- 1:34Speaker 5: casting lots of stupid votes, and the votes are typically
- 1:38Speaker 5: you hate children, you hate kittens, you hate pumpies, you're
- 1:42Speaker 5: against rainbows. I mean all sorts of votes. And so
- 1:45Speaker 5: they did that till four in the morning and then
- 1:46Speaker 5: we were done. However, I'm damn skippy, and I can't
- 1:51Speaker 5: help it if you think, you know what, if you
- 1:56Speaker 5: were here, we'd play hoops right now. And I take
- 1:59Speaker 5: it to the whole I believe.
- 2:01Speaker 2: So here's my real question.
- 2:02Speaker 1: When you guys are till four in the morning and
- 2:04Speaker 1: these people that you work with are like eighties and nineties,
- 2:07Speaker 1: do they sleep in their office and then like someone
- 2:09Speaker 1: has to physically wake them up to walk them down
- 2:12Speaker 1: to vote. How does like, how do the logistics of
- 2:14Speaker 1: this work? And do you guys still wear your coat
- 2:16Speaker 1: and tie or is it like pajamas?
- 2:18Speaker 7: No?
- 2:18Speaker 5: No, it's all coat and tie, are it very Some
- 2:21Speaker 5: people stay on the floor, some people stay in the
- 2:23Speaker 5: cloak room. Some people stay So there's a room one
- 2:27Speaker 5: floor down from from where the Senate floor is called
- 2:30Speaker 5: the Inner Sanctum, and it's senators only, and you sit
- 2:33Speaker 5: in there and you have like cheese and crackers and
- 2:36Speaker 5: a glass of wine, and it's actually bipartisan and so
- 2:39Speaker 5: a good chunk of the night. Like well, you're waiting
- 2:40Speaker 5: for votes to finish, you sit down there and talk
- 2:43Speaker 5: and basically talk smack.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So no card playing. I was kind of hoping for
- 2:48Speaker 1: some like card playing. They wouldn't let you have a
- 2:51Speaker 1: poker because that would have woken you up.
- 2:52Speaker 5: I know you well, I am actually flying to Vegas
- 2:56Speaker 5: this weekend. So as you know, every year we do
- 2:59Speaker 5: a poker fundraiser, and this weekend is the poker fundraiser.
- 3:03Speaker 5: We get a number of poker pros to come out
- 3:05Speaker 5: and play and it is a lot of fun. I
- 3:09Speaker 5: like to play poker and it is our poker fundraiser
- 3:13Speaker 5: in Vegas two years ago was the birth of the
- 3:16Speaker 5: Trump accounts and so, but we did not play poker
- 3:21Speaker 5: on the Senate floor.
- 3:22Speaker 1: All right, I got my money. I got my money
- 3:24Speaker 1: against you this weekend. Just knowing the lack of sleep
- 3:26Speaker 1: that you've had, I want to be clear, I'm going
- 3:28Speaker 1: to leak that out to the pros out there. I
- 3:30Speaker 1: think you're going to be one of the first ones
- 3:32Speaker 1: out have to rebuy back in.
- 3:34Speaker 5: So Ben, you're demonstrating exceptionally poor judgment. That leads me
- 3:38Speaker 5: to ask, were you an investor in the Southern Poverty
- 3:41Speaker 5: Law Center?
- 3:42Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 3:43Speaker 1: Right, exactly, which brings us to our story number one.
- 3:46Speaker 2: After I got to just you.
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- 5:57Speaker 1: All right, sater, So let's get into seven Poverty Law Center.
- 6:01Speaker 1: It was, let's just be clear, a group that was
- 6:04Speaker 1: supposed to stop the klu Klex Klan, but instead they
- 6:07Speaker 1: decided to fund the klu Klex Klan. That was just
- 6:10Speaker 1: one of the many like bigoted racist groups that they
- 6:13Speaker 1: decided to actually raise money from people claiming we're trying
- 6:17Speaker 1: to stop hate while actually funding the hate, so they
- 6:20Speaker 1: can then raise money off of the funding of the
- 6:22Speaker 1: hate and get a return on their investment.
- 6:25Speaker 2: It's like a Ponzi scheme. You can't make it up.
- 6:28Speaker 5: This story is one of the most astonishing stories. So
- 6:31Speaker 5: the Southern Poverty Law Center has made a business for decades,
- 6:36Speaker 5: a business convincing people, convincing liberals, convincing American corporations, convincing
- 6:43Speaker 5: just ordinary Americans that there are these vicious racists in
- 6:46Speaker 5: America that need to be fought, and their business and understand,
- 6:50Speaker 5: the Southern Poverty Law Center raised hundreds of millions of
- 6:53Speaker 5: dollars to fight these racists. What happened this week? The
- 6:58Speaker 5: Department of Justice indicted them, indicted them for money laundry
- 7:04Speaker 5: and the evidence. I could not have made this up.
- 7:08Speaker 5: The Southern Poverty Law Center was funding the very bigots
- 7:12Speaker 5: and racists that they claimed to be fighting. So, for example,
- 7:16Speaker 5: here's a story in the Daily Signal the SPLC was
- 7:21Speaker 5: paying the Ku Klux Klan. Doj indictment claims the Southern
- 7:25Speaker 5: Poverty Law Center has raised money for decades claiming to
- 7:27Speaker 5: dismantle white supremacy, but it funneled millions of dollars. Let
- 7:33Speaker 5: me repeat that, millions of dollars to white nationalist groups,
- 7:38Speaker 5: including the Ku Klux Klan. According to the federal indictment
- 7:42Speaker 5: handed down Tuesday, the SPLC claims it was funding informants
- 7:47Speaker 5: inside the extremist groups. While the SPLC quote purports to
- 7:51Speaker 5: fight white supremacy and racial hatred. Acting Attorney General Todd
- 7:55Speaker 5: Blanche said in a press conference quote, the SPLC was
- 7:59Speaker 5: not dismanted those groups, it was instead manufacturing the extremism
- 8:05Speaker 5: it purports to oppose. Blanche highlighted one example from the
- 8:09Speaker 5: indictment where the SPLC paid a member of the leadership
- 8:12Speaker 5: group that planned the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville,
- 8:16Speaker 5: Virginia in twenty seventeen. It is stunning liberals funding bigots
- 8:23Speaker 5: in order to raise money to fight the bigotry they're funding.
- 8:27Speaker 1: There was a lot in the indictment that came out,
- 8:30Speaker 1: but there's one theme that cash Hotel made very clear
- 8:34Speaker 1: as he was on John Handy's show. He made it
- 8:37Speaker 1: real simple what this is about and why they were indicted.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Here is Cash Hotel, in his own.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Words, funny doesn't lie.
- 8:44Speaker 3: The charity that supposedly fought the clan funded the clan.
- 8:48Speaker 3: The charity that supposedly fought Nazis funded Neo Nazis. The
- 8:53Speaker 3: Southern Poverty Law Center ran a methodical, calculated scheme to
- 8:58Speaker 3: defraud their donor base three million dollars and lied to
- 9:02Speaker 3: them and used an illicit banking structure system to create
- 9:05Speaker 3: shell companies to hide their money and who it was
- 9:09Speaker 3: being sent to specifically for the reason to sow discord
- 9:13Speaker 3: and hate into our society. This is the ultimate definition
- 9:17Speaker 3: of hypocrisy. And if you look at the indictment produced
- 9:20Speaker 3: by the Department of Justice and the FBI, you will
- 9:22Speaker 3: see that these banking institutions tied directly the funding mechanisms
- 9:26Speaker 3: in which the Southern Poverty Law Center used to fund
- 9:29Speaker 3: at least eight hate groups they supposedly wanted to take out,
- 9:33Speaker 3: but they were paying the very villains of our society
- 9:35Speaker 3: they supposedly wanted to protect us from.
- 9:38Speaker 8: That's the ultimate blockers.
- 9:40Speaker 1: By the way, one of the things that I think
- 9:42Speaker 1: is really interesting about this is there were warning signs
- 9:46Speaker 1: for like quite some time. John Stossel back in January
- 9:51Speaker 1: sixteenth to twenty eighteen, he did an expose on warning
- 9:56Speaker 1: Americans about the Southern Propaty Law Center and how it
- 10:00Speaker 1: used to have like a in theory, like a good theme.
- 10:03Speaker 1: It used to be about, hey, we find hate groups,
- 10:05Speaker 1: and we name them, and we expose them and we
- 10:08Speaker 1: out them. And then it just turned into a radical
- 10:11Speaker 1: left organization where Democrats could throw their money.
- 10:15Speaker 2: And when they threw their money in there.
- 10:17Speaker 1: It would just basically attack conservatives and anybody on the
- 10:21Speaker 1: hit list, which turned into by the way, turning Point USA.
- 10:25Speaker 1: It turned into Christian groups as well, groups that they
- 10:28Speaker 1: named individuals like Laura Ingram for example, as one of
- 10:31Speaker 1: those threats to America through the Southern Public Lass Army
- 10:34Speaker 1: that they were doing that back in twenty sixteen.
- 10:38Speaker 5: Well, and look, it was not just liberals that were
- 10:41Speaker 5: funding them. It was corporate America. That they did an
- 10:43Speaker 5: amazing job of extracting millions of dollars from giant corporations,
- 10:48Speaker 5: and they'd say, look, we're going to fight hate and
- 10:50Speaker 5: we're going to fight extremism. And they were rapidly partisan.
- 10:53Speaker 5: They attacked conservatives. We knew that. But the latest piece
- 10:57Speaker 5: of this indictment, I got to say, a week ago, Ben,
- 11:00Speaker 5: I don't know about you. Did you have on your
- 11:02Speaker 5: Bengo card the Southern Publicly Law Center funding, the KKK,
- 11:06Speaker 5: funding the Nazis. No, Like there's a level of cynicism.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Yeah, And the donations or corporate donations like it's Apple,
- 11:16Speaker 1: Tim Cook a million bucks, JP Morgan a million bucks,
- 11:20Speaker 1: JP Morgan half a million, MGM Resorts a million, like
- 11:24Speaker 1: they were Corporate America was giving money to them the
- 11:28Speaker 1: same way they did to Black Lives Matter for example,
- 11:30Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this is just something we got
- 11:32Speaker 1: to check a box.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you need, will write you the check.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And they had unlimited funds coming in and then they
- 11:38Speaker 1: used it to again come after conservative and Christian organizations.
- 11:42Speaker 5: And understand the charges here. The indictment charges of the
- 11:45Speaker 5: SPLC with six counts of wire fraud aiming to obtained
- 11:49Speaker 5: money via donations through materially false false representation and omissions
- 11:54Speaker 5: about what the donated funds would be used for. It
- 11:58Speaker 5: charges the SPLC with four counts of false statements to
- 12:01Speaker 5: a federally insured bank by creating accounts for fictitious entities
- 12:07Speaker 5: to funnel the money. Finally, it charges the SPLC with
- 12:10Speaker 5: one count of conspiracy to commit concealment of money laundry.
- 12:15Speaker 5: The Justice Department indictment claims the SPLC directed more than
- 12:19Speaker 5: one million dollars to an affiliate of the National Alliance,
- 12:25Speaker 5: more than three hundred thousand dollars to an affiliate of
- 12:28Speaker 5: the Area Nations, more than two hundred and seventy thousand
- 12:32Speaker 5: dollars to a member of the Unite the Right rally
- 12:34Speaker 5: in Charlottesville, Virginia in twenty seventeen, more than one hundred
- 12:38Speaker 5: and forty thousand dollars to a former chairman of the
- 12:41Speaker 5: National Alliance, more than seventy three thousand dollars to a
- 12:46Speaker 5: former ku Klux Klan members, and more than nineteen thousand
- 12:50Speaker 5: dollars to the president of the American Front. This was
- 12:55Speaker 5: shameless and it was massive cash. Pttel said the FBI
- 13:00Speaker 5: as investigation revealed that the funds were used to facilitate
- 13:03Speaker 5: the commission of further state and federal offenses, totaling more
- 13:08Speaker 5: than three million dollars. The magnitude of this, the depravity
- 13:14Speaker 5: of this, it's staggering.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I want to play Stolesel. He did this again January sixteen,
- 13:20Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He was warning the country about the Southern
- 13:25Speaker 1: Property Law Center years ago, saying they have lost their way.
- 13:28Speaker 1: They are not what they say they are. Take a
- 13:30Speaker 1: listen to him exposing them back in the day.
- 13:35Speaker 7: There are dangerous hate groups in America.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Who will warn us about them? The media have an answer.
- 13:42Speaker 3: The Southern Poverty Law Center.
- 13:44Speaker 2: The Southern Poverty Law Center.
- 13:46Speaker 7: The Southern Poverty Law Center, based in that building in Alabama,
- 13:50Speaker 7: calls itself the premier group monitoring hate groups, looking at
- 13:55Speaker 7: their map of such groups, he'd think America was consumed
- 13:59Speaker 7: by hate. I once believed in the Center's mission well
- 14:03Speaker 7: meeting people still do. Apple just gave them a million dollars.
- 14:06Speaker 7: But what dotors don't know is that today the Center
- 14:10Speaker 7: smears people who don't deserve to be smeared.
- 14:13Speaker 2: The presence of radical Islam.
- 14:15Speaker 7: This woman grew up in Somalia suffered female genital mutilation,
- 14:20Speaker 7: so now she speaks out against radical Islam. For that,
- 14:23Speaker 7: the Center put her on its list.
- 14:26Speaker 5: Multiculturism failed these communities.
- 14:28Speaker 7: This man was once an Islamic extremist, but then he
- 14:32Speaker 7: decided radical Islam was wrong, and now he criticizes the radicals.
- 14:37Speaker 7: The Center labels him an anti Muslim extremist.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Too.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Join the fight against hate and bigotry.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Visit Sblcenter dot org.
- 14:46Speaker 6: I do think that we have a problem with hate
- 14:48Speaker 6: in this country.
- 14:49Speaker 5: We put about ten of these major hay groups out
- 14:52Speaker 5: of business.
- 14:52Speaker 7: The Center's leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris D's would not
- 14:56Speaker 7: talk to me, so commentator Nomiki Khan stepped up to
- 14:59Speaker 7: defend them.
- 15:00Speaker 5: They have a history a long history of fighting against
- 15:03Speaker 5: extremists like the KKK.
- 15:05Speaker 7: Years ago, Harper's magazine reported that the Center's the wealthiest
- 15:08Speaker 7: civil rights group in America, one that spent most of
- 15:11Speaker 7: its time and money on a fundraising campaign. Now, Morris
- 15:16Speaker 7: d'es did once promised to stop fundraising once his endowment
- 15:20Speaker 7: hit fifty five million dollars, but when he reached fifty
- 15:24Speaker 7: five million, he changed that to one hundred million, saying
- 15:27Speaker 7: that would allow them to cease costly fundraising. But when
- 15:31Speaker 7: they reached one hundred million, they didn't stop.
- 15:34Speaker 5: Today they have an endowment that now is over three
- 15:38Speaker 5: hundred and twenty million dollars, much of which is an
- 15:41Speaker 5: offshore counts Caymans and places like that.
- 15:43Speaker 8: And how do you know, Oh, we look at their
- 15:45Speaker 8: nine nineties and it.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Says Cayman Islands.
- 15:47Speaker 7: Yeah, they pay some of their people more than four
- 15:50Speaker 7: hundred thousand year.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Center.
- 15:52Speaker 1: We played that warning from Stossel, and this warning from
- 15:56Speaker 1: John Sossol was very clear, follow the money. And that
- 15:59Speaker 1: was several years ago when he did that. Now we
- 16:03Speaker 1: see where the money was going and who was being defrauded.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Many of them were the donors. Do you think people
- 16:09Speaker 1: may actually go to jail for some of this?
- 16:11Speaker 5: Look, I hope that they do. They were lying. They
- 16:14Speaker 5: were deliberately lying and taking the money and sending it
- 16:16Speaker 5: to exactly the opposite thing they were claiming. They were
- 16:19Speaker 5: taking it for. You know, it's interesting. The Southern Poverty
- 16:22Speaker 5: Law Center, their business model was saying, we're gonna fight hate,
- 16:26Speaker 5: We're gonna fight racism. But they decided there wasn't enough
- 16:31Speaker 5: hate and racism in the world, so they needed to
- 16:33Speaker 5: pay millions of dollars to the Nazis and the Ku
- 16:37Speaker 5: kukx Klan and other racist groups. They paid two hundred
- 16:41Speaker 5: and seventy thousand dollars to the Unite the Right rally.
- 16:44Speaker 5: Remember that was the rally in Charlesville, Virginia. You had
- 16:48Speaker 5: these young, kind of Nazi looking Aryan boys carrying tiki
- 16:53Speaker 5: torches saying the Jews will not replace us. And the
- 16:56Speaker 5: media went crazy and said and blamed this all on president.
- 17:00Speaker 5: And if you remember, Joe Biden literally said the reason
- 17:04Speaker 5: that he ran for president was because of the Unite
- 17:07Speaker 5: the Right rally.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Yeah, because of that moment.
- 17:09Speaker 5: And what is amazing is we now know that that
- 17:12Speaker 5: rally was funded by leftists. And you might say, why
- 17:16Speaker 5: would why would these leftists ostensibly fighting hate be writing
- 17:22Speaker 5: checks and paying the Nazis and the clansmen. Let me
- 17:24Speaker 5: just give you a couple of stats. What do you
- 17:26Speaker 5: think the revenue for the Southern Poverty Law Center was
- 17:29Speaker 5: in October of twenty sixteen?
- 17:32Speaker 2: What was it?
- 17:32Speaker 1: Because October twenty sixteen was when Trump was running, so
- 17:35Speaker 1: keep going on this.
- 17:37Speaker 5: It was right before the Unite the Right rally. Yep,
- 17:39Speaker 5: it was fifty one million, eight hundred and seventy four
- 17:43Speaker 5: hundred and thirty eight dollars, So fifty one million, that's
- 17:45Speaker 5: real money. What do you think the revenue was one
- 17:48Speaker 5: year later, October twenty.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Seventeen, when Trump was president? What was it?
- 17:54Speaker 5: After the Unite the Right rally? It went from fifty
- 17:57Speaker 5: one million to one hundred thirty three million, four hundred
- 18:01Speaker 5: and sixty three thousand, three hundred and ninety eight. It
- 18:04Speaker 5: more than doubled. So it turns out the two hundred
- 18:08Speaker 5: and seventy thousand dollars that they sent to organize the
- 18:11Speaker 5: Unite Right rally to put a bunch of racist bigots
- 18:15Speaker 5: on TV more than double their fundraising. There is a
- 18:18Speaker 5: cynicism there, and you know what, it's not just cynicism,
- 18:22Speaker 5: it's fraud, which is why they've been indicted.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you one last question on this.
- 18:27Speaker 1: When groups like this get busted this way, I still
- 18:31Speaker 1: think the left will defend and protect them at all costs.
- 18:34Speaker 1: But is there any way that they actually could have
- 18:37Speaker 1: broken some of the laws that they could be forced
- 18:39Speaker 1: to shut down and the Southern probably lossner would cease
- 18:42Speaker 1: to exist or no? Or is that just wishful thinking.
- 18:44Speaker 5: Look, I think there's a very real possibility. This indictment
- 18:48Speaker 5: is serious, this evidence is serious. Now there'll be a trial,
- 18:50Speaker 5: we'll see what the evidence shows. But listen to this
- 18:53Speaker 5: exchange between a reporter and Todd Blanche, the acting Attorney General,
- 18:58Speaker 5: on what the allegations of what the evidence are.
- 19:01Speaker 6: I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging
- 19:03Speaker 6: that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders
- 19:08Speaker 6: of KKK and other groups to continue their operations.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Is that I'm not.
- 19:14Speaker 8: Alleging it the grand jury returning indictment that says that,
- 19:17Speaker 8: and so what what the what the investigation found, according
- 19:20Speaker 8: to the indictment that was returned today, is that they
- 19:23Speaker 8: were paying so so Southern Popity Law Center is raising money,
- 19:27Speaker 8: asking folks to give them money to dismount racism. And
- 19:30Speaker 8: over a very long period of time, they were using
- 19:33Speaker 8: some of the money they raised from donors to pay
- 19:37Speaker 8: to they call them field you know, basically to informants
- 19:41Speaker 8: two for information, for access, to just pay them for
- 19:46Speaker 8: for certain to do certain things. And and so yes,
- 19:50Speaker 8: that's exactly what the indictment charges.
- 19:52Speaker 1: I love the ways that that's not what I'm saying.
- 19:54Speaker 1: That's what the indictment and grand jury said here, like
- 19:57Speaker 1: this seems to be overwhelming as a and for a
- 20:01Speaker 1: long period of time. I noticed the words that he used,
- 20:04Speaker 1: they are the same words a cash will tell you.
- 20:06Speaker 1: This wasn't like a one off And this is I
- 20:08Speaker 1: think what the media has tried to cover this, like, well,
- 20:10Speaker 1: it was just kind of like a one time thing.
- 20:12Speaker 2: This was not a one time thing.
- 20:14Speaker 1: It was over years, higher business like structure was fund
- 20:18Speaker 1: the people we say we hate, raise money off their
- 20:20Speaker 1: hate when they go out there, and will help them organize,
- 20:22Speaker 1: will even help book their travel, will help book their
- 20:25Speaker 1: hotel rooms. That was what was happening, for example in Charlottesville.
- 20:28Speaker 5: For years, for decades, this was going on. And understand,
- 20:32Speaker 5: Corporate America was responsible. You know how much Apple gave
- 20:35Speaker 5: to the Southern property Law Center.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Yeah, how much?
- 20:38Speaker 5: One million?
- 20:39Speaker 2: Yep, JP thousand.
- 20:43Speaker 5: That's a lot of money.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Of informants as they described them.
- 20:46Speaker 5: And I got to say, you and I both have
- 20:48Speaker 5: Apple phones. Did you know when you bought your Apple
- 20:50Speaker 5: phone that you were funding the ku Kluck Slam? Did
- 20:52Speaker 5: you know that you were funding the Nazis?
- 20:54Speaker 4: Well?
- 20:54Speaker 2: I did not.
- 20:55Speaker 5: That's what we now know because and listen, do I
- 20:59Speaker 5: think Tim Cook woke up and said I want to
- 21:01Speaker 5: fund the Nazis?
- 21:02Speaker 4: No?
- 21:03Speaker 5: I think he didn't care. I think he wanted a
- 21:05Speaker 5: virtue signal, And the Southern Poverty Law Center appealed to
- 21:10Speaker 5: his instincts of we're gonna fight hate and the cynicism
- 21:14Speaker 5: of the grifters at the SPLC. We're gonna take your money.
- 21:17Speaker 5: But the problem was they found there wasn't enough racist
- 21:21Speaker 5: hate to justify their fundraising. So let's pay people to
- 21:25Speaker 5: be even more last points so then we can raise
- 21:28Speaker 5: more money.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Yeah we need And by the way, just and that's
- 21:32Speaker 1: called from maybe Yeah, maybe I'm cynical, but like, when
- 21:35Speaker 1: was the last time Apple bought an ad on a
- 21:37Speaker 1: conservative station or a conservative radio show or conservative podcast?
- 21:41Speaker 1: When was the last time JP Morgan Chase did the
- 21:43Speaker 1: same thing. My point maybe never maybe never. Yeah, And
- 21:47Speaker 1: that's the point here is, like you and I have
- 21:49Speaker 1: joked about this for years. What Democrats have at their
- 21:54Speaker 1: disposal to fund their propaganda or the blue chip companies
- 21:58Speaker 1: of Wall Street. None of them will touch a conservative show,
- 22:02Speaker 1: broadcast funding of a movie, or anything like that.
- 22:06Speaker 2: It's all done.
- 22:07Speaker 1: When the Reagan movie came out, nobody in the noble
- 22:10Speaker 1: America would touch it.
- 22:11Speaker 2: You have a great movie.
- 22:12Speaker 1: No one would touch that because it was about Ronald Reagan,
- 22:15Speaker 1: by the way, who's a very popular former president.
- 22:17Speaker 2: You would think that.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Hollywood would get behind that because if I remember correctly,
- 22:21Speaker 1: he was one of their own, he was an actor
- 22:23Speaker 1: and he tried to root out communism in California back
- 22:27Speaker 1: in the day. But they won't touch it. But by golly,
- 22:30Speaker 1: they'll send it to the Southern Poppy Law Center as
- 22:32Speaker 1: long as they name people like Megan Kelly and Charlie
- 22:34Speaker 1: Kirk and turning Point USA and any other conservative group
- 22:37Speaker 1: is a hate group, which is what they've been doing
- 22:39Speaker 1: over the last several years.
- 22:41Speaker 5: Okay, don't forget Ben Carson and Charlie Kirk. As you know,
- 22:44Speaker 5: Ben Carson is a saying white supremacist.
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- 24:16Speaker 1: by the way, to another point I want to talk
- 24:18Speaker 1: about on the show, and you talk about this type
- 24:21Speaker 1: of lawfair. You have decided to write another book. This
- 24:25Speaker 1: will be news information and people listening on the radio.
- 24:28Speaker 1: And this is a book that is a really cool
- 24:31Speaker 1: project with a sitting Supreme Court justice who's just a
- 24:36Speaker 1: few years away from being the longest sitting Supreme Court
- 24:39Speaker 1: justice in history. And you've got exclusive access to sit
- 24:42Speaker 1: down with him for your new book, Going Further. You
- 24:45Speaker 1: can pre order right now at Goingfurther dot com. This
- 24:49Speaker 1: is about Clarence Thomas and you're the author, and it's
- 24:52Speaker 1: a really cool project of yours.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Well, I'm really excited about this. So in my fourteen
- 24:58Speaker 5: years in the Senate, I've written for books. This is
- 25:01Speaker 5: my fifth book. Each of the books we've written have
- 25:04Speaker 5: been New York Times bestsellers. This one is a book
- 25:10Speaker 5: that I think really needed to be written. And so
- 25:12Speaker 5: year and a half ago I went to Clarence Thomas.
- 25:15Speaker 5: I went to his chambers and Justice Thomas and I
- 25:17Speaker 5: have been friends for thirty years, and I sat down
- 25:20Speaker 5: with him and I said, listen, I really would like
- 25:22Speaker 5: to tell your story. I'd like to tell your story
- 25:24Speaker 5: on a big stage. I'd like to get people to
- 25:27Speaker 5: hear Clarence Thomas. His journey is inspirational. He grew up
- 25:32Speaker 5: in abject poverty. He grew up in Pinpoint, Georgia. He
- 25:36Speaker 5: grew up not speaking standard English, and he came from nothing.
- 25:41Speaker 5: He rose. He rose academically to holy Cross, to Yale
- 25:45Speaker 5: Law School. He rose to serve in the Reagan administration.
- 25:49Speaker 5: He rose to serve as a Court of Appeals judge.
- 25:51Speaker 5: He rose to serve as only the second African American
- 25:55Speaker 5: Supreme Court justice in history. And understand, Clarence Thomas had
- 25:58Speaker 5: a journey where before he was a conservative, he was
- 26:02Speaker 5: a left wing radical. He was an angry black man.
- 26:05Speaker 5: Those are the terms he used. He was involved in
- 26:09Speaker 5: riots at Harvard, when he was at holy Cross, and
- 26:11Speaker 5: at Yale. He was He started off as a leftist
- 26:17Speaker 5: and then he realized the folly of his way. And
- 26:21Speaker 5: as you noted in twenty twenty eight, Clarence Thomas will
- 26:25Speaker 5: become the longest serving Supreme Court justice in the history
- 26:28Speaker 5: of America. Now, he wrote a plastic col Yes, he
- 26:33Speaker 5: wrote a fantastic autobiography called My Grandfather's son that describes
- 26:38Speaker 5: how his grandfather raised him, and it's incredible and I
- 26:43Speaker 5: recommend it to everyone. But my grandfather's son ends when
- 26:46Speaker 5: he's appointed the Supreme Court. And so what I've attempted
- 26:50Speaker 5: to do in this book is tell his story in
- 26:52Speaker 5: a way to bring it alive to modern readers, but
- 26:55Speaker 5: also to include his thirty years of Supreme Court decisions
- 26:59Speaker 5: and conclude them in a way that are real, that
- 27:02Speaker 5: makes sense, that are understandable. You don't have to be
- 27:04Speaker 5: a lawyer, but he has changed the entire course of
- 27:08Speaker 5: constitutional law. He has fought for natural rights, for the
- 27:12Speaker 5: God given rights each and every one of us have.
- 27:15Speaker 5: And the website is Goingfurther dot com. Goingfurther dot com.
- 27:20Speaker 5: You can pre order the book on Amazon and Barnes
- 27:22Speaker 5: and Noble wherever you get your books. The book will
- 27:25Speaker 5: come out in August, but go to Goingfurther dot com
- 27:28Speaker 5: and order it now. And this book makes a fantastic
- 27:31Speaker 5: gift for your kids, for your grandkids. Clarence Thomas, I believe,
- 27:36Speaker 5: is an American hero, and we tell his story in
- 27:38Speaker 5: the book Going Further.
- 27:41Speaker 1: There was a very interesting flashpoint that happened that was
- 27:44Speaker 1: underreported or just not even touched at UCLA with a
- 27:48Speaker 1: conservative speaker that was coming to the law school. And
- 27:53Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I have no problem with
- 27:55Speaker 1: protests on college campuses.
- 27:56Speaker 2: I think it's great that's outside.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Disrupting and silencing a conservative speaker or a liberal speaker
- 28:02Speaker 1: in the venue, that is completely different. UCLA did nothing
- 28:06Speaker 1: and essence stop this from happening, silencing a conservative speaker,
- 28:10Speaker 1: and it's now gone viral on YouTube and on x
- 28:14Speaker 1: thank goodness, on social media. I want to get your
- 28:17Speaker 1: reaction to this, because it was pre planned and UCLA
- 28:20Speaker 1: they didn't do enough to stop it at all.
- 28:23Speaker 5: Well, listen, everyone has a right to protest, you have
- 28:25Speaker 5: a right to speak, But what you don't have a
- 28:28Speaker 5: right to do is engage in what's called the Heckler's veto.
- 28:31Speaker 5: You don't have a right to silence a speaker you
- 28:33Speaker 5: disagree with. And that's what the left does. The leftist
- 28:36Speaker 5: terrified of opposing views. They do this frequently. So what happened.
- 28:40Speaker 5: UCLA Law School invited a lawyer from the Department Homeland
- 28:44Speaker 5: Security to come talk the Federalist Society at the law
- 28:47Speaker 5: school did and leftists came and deliberately disrupted the event
- 28:52Speaker 5: and I got to say, this reminded me of an
- 28:54Speaker 5: event that happened a couple of years ago at Stanford
- 28:56Speaker 5: Law School, another California law school, where Kyle Duncan, who
- 28:59Speaker 5: was a federal appellate judge from the Fifth Circuit, spoke
- 29:03Speaker 5: and you had law students who screamed and yelled and
- 29:07Speaker 5: said that they hoped that his daughters were raped. I mean,
- 29:10Speaker 5: it was really twisted. And I got to say, look,
- 29:13Speaker 5: I'm a lawyer. I'm a law school graduate, member of
- 29:16Speaker 5: the bar. Any lawyer, if you remember the bar, you
- 29:21Speaker 5: number one have to pass a character and fitness test.
- 29:25Speaker 5: And if you're in front of a judge, I got
- 29:27Speaker 5: to tell you, if you're a lawyer and you scream
- 29:29Speaker 5: and curse at the judge and say you hope that
- 29:31Speaker 5: his daughter was raped, you will be held in contempt
- 29:34Speaker 5: and go to jail. Like that is not compatible with
- 29:37Speaker 5: actually being a lawyer. And so if you disagree with
- 29:41Speaker 5: the views some speakers saying, you can protest outside, you
- 29:44Speaker 5: can express your own views, but you don't have the
- 29:46Speaker 5: right to engage in shouting them down, attacking, silencing them,
- 29:55Speaker 5: preventing others from listening to those messages. Now I mentioned
- 30:00Speaker 5: just a minute ago my brand new book Going Further,
- 30:03Speaker 5: the incomparable Clarence Thomas. By the way, you can order
- 30:06Speaker 5: that book at Goingfurther dot com Gooingfurther dot com. The
- 30:10Speaker 5: book I wrote before that was entitled Unwoke, How to
- 30:14Speaker 5: Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. And I mentioned that because
- 30:17Speaker 5: when I talk about college and universities, I talk at
- 30:20Speaker 5: length about what happened at Stanford. What happened at Stanford
- 30:24Speaker 5: with this federal judge that was screamed and denounced by
- 30:28Speaker 5: law students. Well, you know what happened. A couple things happened.
- 30:32Speaker 5: Number one at Stanford. When this happened, the administrator from
- 30:36Speaker 5: Stanford Law School came in. Now, she could have said,
- 30:39Speaker 5: all right, enough, you don't get to silence the speaker.
- 30:42Speaker 5: You can express your own views, but you don't get
- 30:44Speaker 5: to prevent the students from hearing the views of this
- 30:47Speaker 5: federal judge. She didn't do that. Instead, she gave this
- 30:50Speaker 5: long pre written speech agreeing with the hecklers and protesters
- 30:54Speaker 5: and attacking the judge and saying the juice is not
- 30:57Speaker 5: worth the squeeze. Now, Stanford Law School fired her because
- 31:04Speaker 5: of what she did there, and not only that I
- 31:06Speaker 5: wrote a letter. I wrote a letter to the Chief
- 31:09Speaker 5: Justice of the Texas Supreme Court and I said, look,
- 31:12Speaker 5: these are law students that want to be lawyers. Some
- 31:14Speaker 5: of them maybe want to be lawyers in Texas. Part
- 31:17Speaker 5: of being a lawyer is character and fitness, the ability
- 31:20Speaker 5: to appear in a court and not scream and yell
- 31:22Speaker 5: and curse at a judge. These law students have demonstrated
- 31:25Speaker 5: their unwilling to do so. And I called on the
- 31:27Speaker 5: Texas Supreme Court to inquire of any graduates of Stanford
- 31:32Speaker 5: Law School of the relevant time period, did you participate
- 31:37Speaker 5: in screaming and cursing and shouting down a federal judge?
- 31:41Speaker 5: And if you did, We're not going to admit you
- 31:42Speaker 5: as a member of the Texas Bar because that's not
- 31:45Speaker 5: how lawyers are allowed to behave in front of judges.
- 31:49Speaker 5: And the Texas Supreme Court did exactly that. They said,
- 31:53Speaker 5: because the law schools are not enforcing the rules, are
- 31:56Speaker 5: not protecting free speech, we the State of Texas, are
- 31:59Speaker 5: going way to do. So. I got to say, as
- 32:02Speaker 5: I look at what happened at U c l A,
- 32:04Speaker 5: that makes a lot of sense here, and I want
- 32:06Speaker 5: you to listen listen to these students when the lawyer
- 32:10Speaker 5: from the Apartment of Homeland Security began speaking.
- 32:17Speaker 4: Today's speaker is brought lest by the u c l
- 32:19Speaker 4: A chapter of the Federal Society.
- 32:26Speaker 5: I have.
- 32:31Speaker 4: First of all, thank you for having me. My parents
- 32:36Speaker 4: has remit in UCLA with the California while one way
- 32:41Speaker 4: I started putting you to law and find.
- 32:46Speaker 8: Me very well.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Most of the time anyone.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Who is coming here in the league is paying for
- 32:52Speaker 4: this or something, and they typically don't have.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Any ask for it.
- 32:58Speaker 4: So typically what happened and they will basically agree the
- 33:03Speaker 4: cartels will help them er and then they get their
- 33:06Speaker 4: final intimation of the responsible pay off the day. I mean,
- 33:09Speaker 4: so when you're in any situation where you're.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Working, you look at this and some of these that
- 33:17Speaker 1: are up there, just so people on radio and listening
- 33:19Speaker 1: on the podcast, they're holding up signs. Some of these
- 33:23Speaker 1: kids after doing with f bombs and other things in
- 33:28Speaker 1: the face of this speaker. And these are not these
- 33:30Speaker 1: are not just random kids. These are people that are
- 33:33Speaker 1: in law school.
- 33:34Speaker 5: Well, and they're playing their phones. They're holding up their
- 33:37Speaker 5: phones and making noises to shut down the speaker. So
- 33:40Speaker 5: the noises you heard there are are. They're holding up
- 33:43Speaker 5: their phones and they did this throughout the speech. And
- 33:47Speaker 5: this is an example if you disagree with the speaker,
- 33:50Speaker 5: although I point out they don't even know if they
- 33:52Speaker 5: disagree with the speaker because they didn't actually listen to
- 33:54Speaker 5: what he had to say.
- 33:55Speaker 1: But if you disagree with this, Poverty Lost Center was
- 33:58Speaker 1: paying for part of this.
- 34:00Speaker 5: You know that's not a crazy question.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, seriously, this is the type of
- 34:04Speaker 1: sting they would sponsor and pay for.
- 34:06Speaker 5: Look, the amazing thing about leftists is they're so angry
- 34:11Speaker 5: and they're not willing to actually confront substance. So all right,
- 34:16Speaker 5: let's say you're a UCLA liberal and you don't like
- 34:20Speaker 5: the Trump administration's immigration policy. Okay, yeah, you could lay
- 34:24Speaker 5: out your view of why you think you should have
- 34:26Speaker 5: a different policy, But you don't see anyone there confronting
- 34:31Speaker 5: was twelve million people invading this country over the four
- 34:34Speaker 5: years of Biden. A good thing was the Biden administration
- 34:37Speaker 5: releasing thousands of murderers and rapists and child molesters and
- 34:42Speaker 5: drunk drivers and gang bangers. A good thing. They don't
- 34:44Speaker 5: address that because those are actual facts. Those are actual
- 34:47Speaker 5: facts that resulted in Americans being murdered, being assaulted, and
- 34:52Speaker 5: women being raped and children being raped. They don't want
- 34:56Speaker 5: to engage in that. I'm perfectly fine if these leftists
- 34:59Speaker 5: want to go have a protest outside and say we
- 35:02Speaker 5: love open borders invade our country, which sadly seems to
- 35:06Speaker 5: be the view of the leftist, But they're not actually
- 35:09Speaker 5: engaging ideas. They're trying to use oppression. If you disagree
- 35:15Speaker 5: with someone, respond with reason and logic, don't respond with
- 35:21Speaker 5: bullying and force and and and essentially trying to stifle
- 35:28Speaker 5: free speech. And where the hell was the administration of UCLA.
- 35:32Speaker 5: Why was there no administrator there saying no, you don't
- 35:36Speaker 5: get to shut this event down just because you disagree.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's probably because they had no problem with
- 35:42Speaker 1: the people that were holding off the F bomb signs
- 35:44Speaker 1: in the classroom in law school at UCLA. I said,
- 35:48Speaker 1: all the time, watch where you send your money, and
- 35:50Speaker 1: really watch where you're sending your kids in school, because
- 35:52Speaker 1: they want to doctrinate the hell out of them, and
- 35:54Speaker 1: they can turn into this. Don't forget down with verdic
- 35:57Speaker 1: with Ted Cruise, wherever you get your podcasts, we do
- 35:59Speaker 1: this show Myday Wednesday, Friday and the Senate, and I
- 36:01Speaker 1: will see you back here on this radio station next
- 36:04Speaker 1: week as well.