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Republicans Skeptical of Biden Reset with Xi plus GOP Senator Challenges a Union Boss · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Republicans now skeptical of Joe Biden's quote big reset with
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Speaker 1: the Chinese communist leader Jiji Ping, who is in California,
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Speaker 1: literally with a red carpet welcome. This is a man
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Speaker 1: that you cannot trust. This is a man that allowed
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Speaker 1: the COVID virus to spread to the entire world and
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Speaker 1: lied about that while he knew that it was contagious,
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Speaker 1: that it came out of Wuhan, and that it was
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Speaker 1: going to shut down the entire world the same way
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Speaker 1: it was shutting down their country in China. And yet
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Speaker 1: in California, Gavin Newsom rolls out the red carpet for
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Speaker 1: j because apparently he is his new mentor. Now Republicans
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Speaker 1: are raising the alarms right now about President Joe Biden's
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Speaker 1: meeting with the Chinese leader to restore communications and quote cooperation,
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Speaker 1: the White House said amid heightened tensions between the two nations. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the way we rolled out the
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Speaker 1: red carpet for him, you would not believe that any
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Speaker 1: that was actually true. The fears are predicated on Biden's
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Speaker 1: age and family business ties. Concessions Biden could give Deji
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Speaker 1: and if China will renig on potential concessions, while the
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Speaker 1: US maintains its quote compromises. Those are the fears coming
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Speaker 1: out right now. How compromised are the Bidens? How compromised
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Speaker 1: the Biden crime family? How much blackmail does the do
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Speaker 1: Jijing Ping and the Chinese communists have over the Biden family.
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Speaker 1: We know that they were working directly with people with
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Speaker 1: direct ties to Chinese communists intelligence spy apparatus. That is
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Speaker 1: a fact, and we know that countless millions came directly
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Speaker 1: in to the Biden crime family. We also know that
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Speaker 1: there were threats made from Hunter Biden to communists in
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Speaker 1: China for payment, and what happened. The money ended up
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Speaker 1: getting transferred, we know that, and then the big guy
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Speaker 1: apparently got his cut. Now, Biden and g will meet
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Speaker 1: at a quote undisclosed location outside of San Francisco to
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Speaker 1: speak about finalizing agreements to kurtell what they describe as
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Speaker 1: FETANL trafficking, and restore communications between militaries, along with boosting
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Speaker 1: Boeing aircraft purchases since the latest sale in two thousand
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Speaker 1: and seventeen. Biden said on Tuesday that his goal is
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Speaker 1: to try to strengthen his relationship with you. Now you
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Speaker 1: also have to remember that this president is weak, and
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Speaker 1: he's weak mentally, he's incapacitated, and G knows that.
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Speaker 2: How bad is it. I'll give you an example.
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden says that he's met alone with G sixty
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Speaker 1: eight times as vice president. That's, by the by the way,
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Speaker 1: not true at all. It's actually impossible. It's a ridiculous number.
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Speaker 1: Yet the President has said that several times. He also
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Speaker 1: said yesterday, quote, we're not trying to decouple from China.
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Speaker 1: What we're trying to do is change the relation ship
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Speaker 1: for the better. Now, the President tried to make a
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Speaker 1: joke before his mic was cut off when he was
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Speaker 1: meeting with a dictator. And here is what the President
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Speaker 1: had to say is he was trying to quote joke
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Speaker 1: around at the table with Janet yelling to his right
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Speaker 1: and Anthony blinkn to his left.
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Speaker 3: And they come.
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Speaker 1: He acted like it was a boxing match kind of moment,
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Speaker 1: and then he starts laughing. Anthony Blinkin looks at him like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? And then his microphone,
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Speaker 1: as you can hear there, was turned off.
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Speaker 4: I have to go over there.
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Speaker 1: The President sitting there kind of laughing and joking as
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Speaker 1: the g regime comes into the room.
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Speaker 2: We also know that Biden said this to g at
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Speaker 2: the table.
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Speaker 5: We also have a responsibility to our people and in
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Speaker 5: the world to work together when we see it in
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Speaker 5: our interest to do so.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 1: That's I guess the message right to our people and
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Speaker 1: to work together. When I guess it sort of kind
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Speaker 1: of works to our advantage. Now, while all this is
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Speaker 1: going on, you also have a president that's got some
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Speaker 1: problems right now. One of Biden's judge nominees is going
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Speaker 1: down in flames this afternoon on Capitol Hill as he
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Speaker 1: is bowing down to a dictator in California. Biden's district
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Speaker 1: judge nominee, literally today by the name of Judge Hill,
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Speaker 1: could not explain the difference between a stay order and
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Speaker 1: an injunction when asked about it by Senator Kennedy. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to this.
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Speaker 6: The difference between a stay order and an injunction.
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Speaker 3: A stay order would prohibit, an injunction would restrain the
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Speaker 3: parties from taking action.
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Speaker 2: A state order.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I actually can can give you
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Speaker 3: the okay.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's who you're bringing to the bench. A judge
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Speaker 1: that doesn't know the difference. A judge nominee that doesn't
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Speaker 1: know the difference between a stay order, a stay order,
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Speaker 1: and an injunction. That's who we're now nominating to be
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Speaker 1: on these courts. This also comes as there's even more
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Speaker 1: bad news as the FBI director says they're investigating now
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Speaker 1: multiple individuals affiliated with HAMAS inside the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: Just kind of mention that out there as the president's
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Speaker 1: bowing down to a dictator in California.
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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say, is he was talking today.
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Speaker 5: On top of the so called loan actor threat. We
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Speaker 5: cannot and do not discount the possibility that HAMAS or
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Speaker 5: another foreign terrorist organization may exploit the current conflict to
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Speaker 5: conduct the tax here on our own soil. We have
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Speaker 5: kept our sites on HAMAS and have multiple investigations into
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Speaker 5: individuals affiliated with that foreign organization. And while historically our
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Speaker 5: HAMAS cases have identified individuals here who are facilitating and
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Speaker 5: financing terrorism overseas, we continue to scrutinize our intelligence to
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Speaker 5: assess how that threat may be evolving. But it's not
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Speaker 5: just HAMAS, as I highlighted for this committee in my
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Speaker 5: testimony last year. Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of
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Speaker 5: terrorism has directly or by hiring criminals, mounted assassination attempts
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Speaker 5: against Dissonance and high ranking current and former US officials,
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Speaker 5: including right here on American soil. Or take Hesbola, Iran's
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Speaker 5: primary strategic partner, which has a history of raising money
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Speaker 5: and seeking to obtain weapons here in the United States.
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Speaker 5: FBI arsts in recent years also indicate that Hesbelah has
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Speaker 5: tried to see the operatives establish infrastructure and engage in
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Speaker 5: spying here to mess raising our concern that they may
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Speaker 5: be contingency planning for future operations in the United States.
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Speaker 5: And while we are not currently tracking a specific plot
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Speaker 5: given that disturbing history, we are keeping a close eye
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Speaker 5: on what impact recent events may have on those terrorist
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Speaker 5: groups intentions here in the United States and how those
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Speaker 5: intentions might evolve. Now, I want to be clear, while
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Speaker 5: this is certainly a time for heightened vigilance, it is
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Speaker 5: by no means a time for panic. Americans should continue
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Speaker 5: to be alert and careful, but they shouldn't stop going
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Speaker 5: about their daily lives. All across the country, the FBI's
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Speaker 5: men and women are working with urgency and purpose to
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Speaker 5: confront the elevated threat that means working closely with our federal, state,
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Speaker 5: and local partners on our FBI led Joint Terrorism task Forces,
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Speaker 5: taking an even closer look at existing investigations and canvassing
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Speaker 5: sources to increase awarenesss the board, and doing all we
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Speaker 5: can working with our partners to protect houses of worship
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Speaker 5: here in the US. Bottom line, We're going to continue
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Speaker 5: to do everything in our power to protect the American
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Speaker 5: people and support our partners in Israel.
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Speaker 1: All right, So he says we're going to support our
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Speaker 1: partners in Israel. Literally less than twelve hours after the
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Speaker 1: Democratic Party and his administration he works for, the Biden
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Speaker 1: administration said no to giving emergency funding to Israel. So
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Speaker 1: that's that's point number one that I think, really, really,
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Speaker 1: really really has to.
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Speaker 2: Stand out here. All right.
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Speaker 1: That's that's again, that's point number one. Point number two.
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Speaker 1: He says there's an elevated threat, but he wants you
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Speaker 1: to trust that everything's going to be fine.
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Speaker 2: And the reason why.
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Speaker 1: You should trust everything's going to be fine because the
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Speaker 1: FBI is on it now. Not to not to be
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Speaker 1: too mean here, but when was the last time the
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Speaker 1: FBI had a big success that we know about. Instead
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Speaker 1: of covering up crimes for the Biden crime family are
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Speaker 1: going around the country harassing people and arresting people that
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Speaker 1: were in and around the capital that actually didn't do
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Speaker 1: anything wrong on January the sixth. And now you want
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Speaker 1: me to believe that everything's going to be fine with
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Speaker 1: a wide open southern border because.
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Speaker 2: The FBI is on it.
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Speaker 1: Also, you may have heard now that there was a
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Speaker 1: GOP senator that almost got into a fistfight, a guy
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Speaker 1: by the name of Senator Mullen, a Republican from Oklahoma.
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Speaker 2: He joined Sann's.
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Speaker 1: Dana Bash discussed challenging the head of the union, the Teamsters,
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Speaker 1: to a fistfight during the US Senate hearing the day before.
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Speaker 1: The fight was prevented when Senator Bernie Sanders, who was
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Speaker 1: leading the hearing, intervene and chastised both the teamster, the
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Speaker 1: union president, and the senator for their quote childish behavior.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Senator Mullen had to
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Speaker 1: say during this interview.
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Speaker 7: We're already bubbling over. Most recently before coming, the head
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Speaker 7: of the Teamsters said in a tweet, you know where
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Speaker 7: to find me. This is to you any place, anytime,
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Speaker 7: cowboy right. Having said all that in hindsight, any regrets.
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Speaker 6: No, I really don't. What happens all the time is
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Speaker 6: you got these keyboard warriors that's going to go out
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Speaker 6: there and run their mouth all the time and then
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Speaker 6: they don't ever have to face their consequences. And people
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Speaker 6: tell me all the time, you know this in coming
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Speaker 6: up of the United States Senator, and I remind people
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Speaker 6: I'm a guy from Oklahoma first, and there's consequences for
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Speaker 6: doing some of this.
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Speaker 2: I get.
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Speaker 6: There's people on social media they'll do this constant. I'll
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Speaker 6: never see them. This guy I did, and this wasn't
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Speaker 6: his first time. He did this to me five separate times.
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Speaker 6: I ignored it every time. And then the last time
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Speaker 6: when he called me, when he said you know where
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Speaker 6: to find me anytime anywhere, cowboy, I thought, you know,
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Speaker 6: maybe this could be a good thing. Maybe we could
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Speaker 6: do this for charity. If he really wants to be
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Speaker 6: this tough guy and be you know this union boss
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Speaker 6: of the Teamsters who said that mind you in twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty two, he said he want to bring back the
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Speaker 6: mob mentality back to the teamsters. This is the same
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Speaker 6: guy in twenty thirteen that was suspended by his teamsters
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Speaker 6: for harassing and intimidating them. I thought, you know, maybe
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Speaker 6: this guy could be taught a lesson and we could
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Speaker 6: just do it for charity.
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Speaker 7: What do you mean by that for charity? Because this
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Speaker 7: looked like you almost came to blows in the middle
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Speaker 7: of well.
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Speaker 6: But I had already challenged him before this. Prior to this,
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Speaker 6: I had I had said when he first put out
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Speaker 6: that first tweet, or that actually that was the fifth
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Speaker 6: tweet I put out. Okay challenge accepted September thirtieth, Tulsa,
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Speaker 6: Oklahoma for charity MMA, And of course he didn't say
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Speaker 6: anything until right before this hearing he started running his
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Speaker 6: mouth again.
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Speaker 7: You mentioned MMA fight. You are an MMA champion. I
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Speaker 7: noticed that when you were getting up in an escalator,
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Speaker 7: you're playing with it. Right now, you reach for your
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Speaker 7: wedding ring.
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Speaker 2: What was that about.
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Speaker 6: Well, I wasn't mad first of all. So when you
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Speaker 6: get mad, you get angry, you lose your mind. First
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Speaker 6: thing I thought of when I stood up, I thought,
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Speaker 6: I'm going to break my hand on this guy's face
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Speaker 6: and would take my wedding ring off. Because when you're fighting,
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Speaker 6: you learn out of punch correctly. You really shouldn't break
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Speaker 6: your hand. But when you're doing it with rafts.
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Speaker 7: You actually thought you were going to come to blows
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Speaker 7: in that.
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Speaker 6: Moment, I had full intentions of doing that.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let me play for you.
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Speaker 1: By the way here, I love this guy, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not endorsing this type of behavior, But I do love
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Speaker 1: this guy.
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Speaker 2: The fact this guy's like.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm in Oklahoma at first, man, Like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: some senator that thinks I'm better than everybody else.
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Speaker 2: I'm a former MMA fighter.
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Speaker 1: This guy says, any time, any place, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: all right, let's go.
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Speaker 2: You want to go, let's go.
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Speaker 1: I respect the fact that he's actually this authentic about it,
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Speaker 1: like he's like, yeah, I expected to go.
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Speaker 2: Do I think you should do it in the chamber? No,
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 1: Would I totally buy a ticket to this fight to
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Speaker 1: watch a union boss at his abs kick for charity. Hell, yes,
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Speaker 1: I would totally buy a ticket for this. I don't
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Speaker 1: have an issue with the charity side of this, doing
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Speaker 1: it from the four of the Senate this way. I
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Speaker 1: actually don't have a problem with him saying calling him out.
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Speaker 1: What I do have a problem with him saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's fight right here right now. I think we have
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Speaker 1: to be better than that. Now the original audio if
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Speaker 1: you missed it, and he's going to read the text
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Speaker 1: of this Teamster and I'm going to play it for
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Speaker 1: you so you can hear it.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 8: Former MMA fighter and current Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
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Speaker 8: took issue with a tweet by Teamsters union leader Sean
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Speaker 8: O'Brien during a help committee hearing quit the tough guy act.
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Speaker 8: You know where to find me any place, anytime, cowboy
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Speaker 8: hashtag little man syndrome. And here's how that ended up
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Speaker 8: going down.
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Speaker 6: So this is a time, this is a place if
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Speaker 6: you want to run your mouth, we can be too
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Speaker 6: consenting adults. We can finish it here.
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Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine, perfect, you want to do it now.
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Speaker 9: I'd love to do it right now.
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Speaker 6: We'll stand your butt up.
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Speaker 2: Then you stand you up, butt up? Stop it? So,
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Speaker 2: oh no, sit down?
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: You know you're a United States sty Okay, okay.
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Speaker 1: By the way, there's something hilarious about Bernie Sanders, the
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Speaker 1: old guy from the Up movie going, Sit down, Sit down,
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Speaker 1: You're a United States Center When Bernie Sanders is the
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Speaker 1: guy in the room that is like the calm guy.
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Speaker 1: You just know that this isn't a hilarious moment. I
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Speaker 1: think it's hysterical. The media, of course, is acting like
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Speaker 1: this is like a massive deal.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: I'll give you example morning, Joe Pannell had a whole
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Speaker 1: panel on it this morning. They're like GOP Center challenging
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Speaker 1: hearing witness to a fight. No, he's a union boss that,
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Speaker 1: by the way, challenge the senator to a fight first.
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Speaker 1: He read the tweet first, So you guys are scumbag
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Speaker 1: liars at MSNBC yet again acting like this GOP Center
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Speaker 1: just didn't like what he was saying and then wanted
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Speaker 1: to fight him.
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Speaker 2: That's not how this went down.
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Speaker 1: This guy, five different times has been talking trash and
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Speaker 1: he read him. He read the trash, and then he said,
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Speaker 1: all right, you want to go. He said, it's embarrassing, empathetic.
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Speaker 1: Colbert last night played the exchange of Senator Mullen and
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Speaker 1: the union boss challenging each other, and even they laughed
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Speaker 1: about how hilarious this is.
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Speaker 10: Hey was an embarrassing day down in Congress thanks to
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Speaker 10: Oklahoma senator and guy you don't remember at your high
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Speaker 10: school reunion asking is your little sister still hot? Mark
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Speaker 10: Wayne Mullen this afternoon.
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Speaker 2: Is this a Senate hearing?
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Speaker 10: In a Senate hearing, Mullen faced off against a witness,
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Speaker 10: Teamster's president and half Eagle, half Egg, Sean O'Brien. The
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Speaker 10: two men have tussled on social media before, but in
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Speaker 10: a hearing ostensibly about our economy, they nearly came to blows.
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Speaker 10: I want to warn anyone with young children, Well, we're
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Speaker 10: about to show you. It's extremely stupid.
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Speaker 2: Jim.
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Speaker 6: You tweeted at me one, two, three, four five times,
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Speaker 6: and let me read what the last one said.
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Speaker 2: Quick, the tough.
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Speaker 6: Guy act in these Senate hearings. You know where to
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Speaker 6: find me any place, anytime, cowboy. Sorry, this is a time.
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Speaker 6: This is a place if you want to run your mouth.
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Speaker 6: We can be two consenting adults so we can finish
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Speaker 6: it here. Okay, that's fine, perfect, you want to do
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Speaker 6: it now. I'd love to do it right now.
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Speaker 2: Are they about to?
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Speaker 1: There's your Stephen Colbert. Take on the whole thing here, Colbert.
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Speaker 1: Are they about to? He said? Two consenting adults, right,
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Speaker 1: two consenting adults that started to fight as he described it.
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Speaker 1: Listen to the end, he said, He said, two consenting adults.
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Speaker 2: That's not how a fight starts, right.
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Speaker 10: If there's gonna be a fight, I'd like to warn
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Speaker 10: that senator, you look pretty big.
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Speaker 2: But historically people.
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Speaker 10: Who take on the teamsters end up with season tickets
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Speaker 10: to Giants Stadium underneath the end zone.
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Speaker 2: Luckily there it is underneath the end zone.
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Speaker 1: Again, I go back to the basics of this, like,
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Speaker 1: is it beneath a member of Congress to want to
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Speaker 1: pick a fight on the flour or or in a
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Speaker 1: committee room like this?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Do I have a problem with the guy calling him out? No,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. By the way, that my first interview
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Speaker 1: over at CNN on this I can tell you that
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Speaker 1: right now, no way would not under any circumstances. I
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Speaker 1: told him to go over there to do his first
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Speaker 1: interview because CNN, of course, is going to try to
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Speaker 1: make you into the worst person in the world.
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Speaker 2: That's what they always do.
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Speaker 1: They always try to turn you into the worst person
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Speaker 1: in the world.
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Speaker 2: But it does tell you, and I get this.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that have written a lot
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Speaker 1: of things about me, and I've there's a few of
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Speaker 1: them I cannot wait to see in life, because I'm
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Speaker 1: going to remind them of what they said on social media,
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Speaker 1: and then how they didn't say any of it when
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Speaker 1: they're standing right in front of me, and I kind
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Speaker 1: of appreciate that. Just don't challenge and fight them in Congress,
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Speaker 1: like you should have gotten him to agree to a
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Speaker 1: charity event.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I've got a date a time you show up.
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Speaker 1: Let's sell tickets and settle this and charity wins you
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Speaker 1: in let's go. That would have been a better way
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Speaker 1: to handle it. But I also think some people are
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Speaker 1: taking this a little bit over the top. They're going
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Speaker 1: a little bit too extreme. I'm just gonna be clear
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Speaker 1: about that. The ad L is now going on offense.
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Speaker 1: This morning on MSNBC, green Black went on TV to
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Speaker 1: say this, and again, that's the Anti Definition League CEO
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Speaker 1: saying this about what's happening in our college campuses.
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Speaker 11: Jonathan, you led me to a question I was going
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Speaker 11: to ask you, which we have now seen at least
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Speaker 11: the beginning of some pushback finally from people who run
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Speaker 11: these schools. You mentioned Columbia, other places just through the
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Speaker 11: end of the semester, in the case of Columbia saying
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Speaker 11: you can't hold demonstrations on our campus. But I think,
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Speaker 11: as you say, it's important to be clear, this isn't
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Speaker 11: about free speech. Some of these groups are espousing hatred
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Speaker 11: and explicit anti Semitism. Do you see the leadership at
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Speaker 11: some of these schools that you've been pushing so hard?
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Speaker 11: Are they now finding the backbone you just described, Well,
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Speaker 11: they're only.
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Speaker 12: Going to find the backbone if we hold them accountable.
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Speaker 12: Donors need to hold them accountable, students need to hold
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Speaker 12: them accountable, and the federal government does too. You know,
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Speaker 12: last week we launched a legal call in line WILLY
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Speaker 12: for students who've experienced this kind of discrimination. It's a
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Speaker 12: violation of the Civil Rights Act, Title six WILLI. We
19:53
Speaker 12: have overall one hundred and fifty cases we're now exploring.
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Speaker 12: And let me tell you the university presidents. They might
19:59
Speaker 12: not list to some students, but when they run the
20:02
Speaker 12: risk of losing hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants,
20:06
Speaker 12: they're going to respond. One hundred and fifty cases in
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Speaker 12: a week. We're going to continue to hold their feet
20:11
Speaker 12: to the fire. And by the way, not just us.
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Speaker 12: We shouldn't just wait for us to push for these cases.
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Speaker 12: The Department of Education can be proactive about this and
20:19
Speaker 12: launch investigations and grew. You know, other authorities like the
20:23
Speaker 12: IRS and even the FBI should look at the parent
20:26
Speaker 12: organizations to see are they providing material support for terror
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Speaker 12: that isn't okay under any circumstances.
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Speaker 1: I absolutely love what he's saying there. I got to
20:36
Speaker 1: give them credit for doing this. This is exactly what
20:38
Speaker 1: they should be doing. And by the way, this also
20:41
Speaker 1: comes at a time when students are fearful now in.
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Speaker 2: A way that they haven't been before.
20:48
Speaker 1: Students now, especially Jewish students, Okay, especially Jewish students who
20:56
Speaker 1: have come out and they are very, very frustrated because
20:59
Speaker 1: the these universities do not seem to be protecting them
21:04
Speaker 1: and they you know, this is the same universities that
21:06
Speaker 1: called for safe spaces and and and kumbaya ism all
21:11
Speaker 1: over campus, that everybody should be accepted, everybody should be loved,
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Speaker 1: everybody should be you know, all of these type things.
21:21
Speaker 1: They have a chance to stand up for these students
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Speaker 1: and they're not doing it. Anti Israel protesters shout Hyle
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Speaker 1: Hitler and perform a Nazi salute in a march for
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Speaker 1: Israel and Washington, d C.
21:36
Speaker 2: For example.
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Speaker 1: You also have, as this is going on, students who
21:41
Speaker 1: are coming out and they're telling the truth about what
21:45
Speaker 1: they're experiencing on college campuses. These kids are experiencing moments
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Speaker 1: that are absolutely terrible, and we know it by the way,
21:57
Speaker 1: like we know it, we see it, and that's also
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Speaker 1: incredibly frustrating. Let me give you an example of a
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Speaker 1: Jewish MIT student at that went on TV yesterday, went
22:09
Speaker 1: on TV to talk to Jake Tapper and to talk
22:14
Speaker 1: about how bad it's gotten at MIT because MIT was
22:17
Speaker 1: going to kick out some students for their anti Semitism
22:21
Speaker 1: on campus, and then they said, oh, there'll be some
22:23
Speaker 1: visa problems, so we won't do it.
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Speaker 13: Listen, as a Jewish student at MIT, do you feel
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Speaker 13: safe on campus?
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Speaker 3: You know, honestly, Jake, in the past few weeks, I
22:33
Speaker 3: have not felt safe on campus.
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Speaker 2: Why not?
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Speaker 14: So?
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Speaker 3: You know, ever since October seventh, we've seen at universities
22:41
Speaker 3: around the country that you know, the conflict that's overseas
22:44
Speaker 3: has come to our home term and we've had a
22:48
Speaker 3: lot of rallies and events by an organization called the
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Speaker 3: Coalition Against Apartheid, which is the anti Israel group on
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Speaker 3: MIT's campus, and they, along with so local anti Israel
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Speaker 3: groups have come to campus because MIT is an open campus,
23:04
Speaker 3: which means that anybody can walk around and you know,
23:08
Speaker 3: be on campus. So they together have done protests on
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Speaker 3: campus on the steps of Lobby seven, which is the
23:14
Speaker 3: main entrance to MIT, and in front of the Student Center.
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Speaker 13: And I mean, people protest, but what do they do,
23:21
Speaker 13: what do they say? That makes me feel unsafe?
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Speaker 3: So I guess part of it is the fact of
23:28
Speaker 3: what they're saying. So when you're saying things like globalize
23:30
Speaker 3: the endi Fada, use your two fists to sacrifice everything
23:34
Speaker 3: for Palestine and one solution and to fada. You know,
23:38
Speaker 3: we know what happened during the second into Fada. It
23:40
Speaker 3: was suicide bombings and attacks against Israeli civilians and Israel.
23:44
Speaker 3: But the other part of it is that these people
23:46
Speaker 3: aren't just protesting outside and exercising the right for free speech,
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Speaker 3: which I fully support as an American. It's that they're
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Speaker 3: going you know, they went to the personal offices of
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Speaker 3: a program that runs Israel internships on MIT's campus, and
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Speaker 3: they went to the offices of the people who worked
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Speaker 3: for this program and they tried to enter it. They
24:03
Speaker 3: were going from door to door trying to unlock the doors,
24:06
Speaker 3: and the people who worked in this office had no
24:08
Speaker 3: idea to what these students were trying to do by
24:10
Speaker 3: trying to get into their office. They were yelling, they
24:12
Speaker 3: were accusing them of apartheid, of ethnic cleansing, of genocide,
24:15
Speaker 3: and it was a really frightening experience.
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Speaker 1: It was a really frightening experience, a really quote frightening experience.
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Speaker 1: MSNBC going also all in for the Hamas terrace with
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Speaker 1: their coverage this morning, saying this about Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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Speaker 4: They're bad.
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Speaker 9: They're very, very, very disturbing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, very bad, very disturbing. And Michael just getting back
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Speaker 4: to the two state solution. Yeah, there was this belief
24:44
Speaker 4: during the Abraham Accords, and I thought it was cynical
24:48
Speaker 4: at the time that Israel could make peace with the UAE,
24:55
Speaker 4: Israel could make peace with the SAW, Israel could make
25:01
Speaker 4: peace with ba Range, Israel could make peace with everybody
25:05
Speaker 4: and just pretend the Palestinians weren't there. We said it
25:09
Speaker 4: at the time. So you think you can work around
25:14
Speaker 4: I said this to people in the Trump administration. You
25:16
Speaker 4: think it can work around the Palestinians. They're not going anywhere.
25:21
Speaker 4: And it underlined two things. One that the Israelis were cynical,
25:26
Speaker 4: and we're doing everything they could to ignore the Palestinian's flight.
25:31
Speaker 4: And the second thing is it's not really reported as.
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Speaker 15: Much just how much, just how much the Palestinians neighbors
25:40
Speaker 15: just detest them, have no use for them, haven't had
25:43
Speaker 15: any use for them for a very long time, don't
25:45
Speaker 15: want them in their country, and are willing to actually
25:49
Speaker 15: team up.
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Speaker 4: The Sunni Arab nations team up with Israel, right and
25:55
Speaker 4: at the expense of the Palestinians. And now this is
25:57
Speaker 4: blown up for the entire region. And now they're paying,
26:00
Speaker 4: and Jordan, they're paying, in Egypt, they're paying in Saudi
26:04
Speaker 4: Arabia again for not tackling this issue had on. And
26:08
Speaker 4: all I'm saying is, when we get through this first phase,
26:12
Speaker 4: however long, that next month or so, and that Yahoo
26:16
Speaker 4: has moved aside, the United States just has to say, yes,
26:19
Speaker 4: we support your right to defend yourself to destroy Humas,
26:25
Speaker 4: but we also are going to demand The other end
26:28
Speaker 4: of that is it's not going to be easy to
26:30
Speaker 4: do now, but at some point you've got to move
26:33
Speaker 4: to a two state solution and take care of the
26:36
Speaker 4: chaos that's going on in the West.
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Speaker 2: Banct I think you're right about that.
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Speaker 14: I think in the end, so we're talking at a
26:43
Speaker 14: post that Yahoo Israel, you're going to have emerge presumably
26:50
Speaker 14: as was reported, you know, the opposition is already beginning
26:52
Speaker 14: to position. The Israeli people want that change. You're going
26:56
Speaker 14: to have a momentum or an energy behind that. So
26:58
Speaker 14: the work and the lift body US won't be necessarily
27:02
Speaker 14: as difficult as it went as it otherwise would be,
27:05
Speaker 14: which is a good thing for US policy. But more
27:09
Speaker 14: to the point of what you're making, the powers in
27:13
Speaker 14: the region will have a greater incentive on the heels
27:17
Speaker 14: of all of this now to get behind that two
27:20
Speaker 14: state solution in a way that they before October seventh
27:24
Speaker 14: they were disinclined to do for their own particular reasons.
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Speaker 9: That is the one thing that's going to come out
27:29
Speaker 9: of this People hope that there's basically there's this is
27:32
Speaker 9: the only viable solution out of this mess, is a
27:34
Speaker 9: two state solution. And you know, we were this has
27:37
Speaker 9: been discussed further the past month, that this is the
27:41
Speaker 9: this is the one thing that will come out of
27:42
Speaker 9: this disaster, is that this is the only way forward,
27:46
Speaker 9: and increasingly people will see that in the Middle East,
27:49
Speaker 9: you know. And interestingly, The Times had a really interesting
27:52
Speaker 9: interview with Hamas leaders a week or so ago, just
27:57
Speaker 9: and they basically were feeling so.
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Speaker 2: So but by the way, listen to this.
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Speaker 1: I listen to this propagand it's about to come out
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Speaker 1: out of her mouth.
28:04
Speaker 2: She says.
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Speaker 1: It was really interesting. There was this, there was this
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Speaker 1: conversation with Hamas leaders.
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Speaker 9: Listen carefully, We'll see that in the Middle East, you know.
28:10
Speaker 9: And interestingly, The Times had a really interesting interview with
28:14
Speaker 9: Hamas leaders a week or so ago, just and they
28:19
Speaker 9: basically were feeling so so isolated in the region, and
28:24
Speaker 9: they launched this attack as kind of a last resort
28:26
Speaker 9: because they felt completely abandoned by all everybody else and
28:30
Speaker 9: realized that this was the last thing they could do.
28:33
Speaker 11: American politics is new.
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Speaker 2: Did did you hear that?
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Speaker 1: No one stopped her, No one called her out for that,
28:39
Speaker 1: No one called her out for what just I'm going
28:42
Speaker 1: to read you that part of the transcript. Interestingly, The
28:45
Speaker 1: New York Times had a really interesting interview with Hamas
28:48
Speaker 1: leaders a week or so ago. They basically were feeling
28:52
Speaker 1: Hamas so isolated in the region that they launched this
28:55
Speaker 1: attacks kind of a last resort because they felt completely
28:58
Speaker 1: abandoned by everyone else and realized that this was the
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Speaker 1: last thing they could do. And the panel just said,
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Speaker 1: uh huh, they had no choice. That's what That's what
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Speaker 1: was just said there like I'm not this is what
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