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Styles P & Adjua Styles, Michael Colyar, Mikel Welch, & Angela Dean · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: welcome to mon To making conversation styles P and Adra styles. Yes, Yes,
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Speaker 1: what up? Up? Up? Did I get it right? Did
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Speaker 1: I get it right? Good? Break it down? You break
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Speaker 1: it down? Liked and I love you? Odd? Just word odd? Right?
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Speaker 1: Did you are correct? Come on now, come on now,
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Speaker 1: we're in a relationship. Now, y'all in a relationship with
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Speaker 1: now Scott. I want to step back for a minute
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Speaker 1: on you right quick? Uh. I was managing Steve Harvey
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Speaker 1: from two thousand. Did you ever come to our radio station?
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Speaker 1: Do we have an interview you? Because I got a
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Speaker 1: feeling out I met you before. I felt like I
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Speaker 1: met you too, I was saying that earlier. That's that's
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure we did. I remember
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Speaker 1: coming up to Steve Harvey show before. Definitely. Um. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because I was executive producing, I handled all the town.
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Speaker 1: I booked everybody because I know I liked you when
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Speaker 1: I because I like that dude, I remember because I
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Speaker 1: remember everybody when I when I met him, and I
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Speaker 1: always had a good vibe for when I met you
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Speaker 1: and uh and then when they when they when they
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Speaker 1: were talking about the opportunity to bringing you guys on
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Speaker 1: the show, I went, I think I know that dude.
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Speaker 1: I think I met him. Yeah, I believe I. I
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Speaker 1: just can't remember if I did it by myself or
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Speaker 1: with a lot because I actually went to Steve Harvey
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Speaker 1: when he had the radio show a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's right, we met then, because you could
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Speaker 1: not have went to the radio show and get past me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it's all good. It's all good. Like they're just
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Speaker 1: passing good memories on the app because what I do
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Speaker 1: with the show man and this is a conversation, man,
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Speaker 1: there's a conversation about you're gonna talk about your book,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the journey, We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: the relationship, but more important to just talk about you know,
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Speaker 1: the business side, and uh adua get it right? Yes,
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Speaker 1: good good? You know then you grew up whenever in
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Speaker 1: the book and said you grew up absolutely no junk
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Speaker 1: food in the house, only fresh you got to be
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Speaker 1: kidding me. You got to be kidding. No, I'm not, No,
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Speaker 1: I'm not. My dad is uh well, he was a
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Speaker 1: rassa Rastafarian that comes with an idol lifestyle. So it's
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Speaker 1: like you don't need any dairy, any meat, um, any
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Speaker 1: animal products. So no, I used to sneak and I
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Speaker 1: used to cheat outside ye fresh. So let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this, what is what do you classify as fresh food?
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Speaker 1: This is just all I can understand it. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: okay for me. It consists of whole foods, so it's
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Speaker 1: basically foods without any preservative, antibiotics, and any artificial flavorings, coloring.
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Speaker 1: So it's just as clean eating. So basically, you know,
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Speaker 1: just clean eating without any extra whole food ingredients, you know, right.
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Speaker 1: You know it's really interesting that you know I am
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Speaker 1: the worst eater, you know when I go out in
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Speaker 1: the team, I am. I'm gonna lie to you, you know,
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Speaker 1: but I love my life. There's nothing nekt about my life. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're happy. I'm very happy. If you sit down with me, stop,
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Speaker 1: I will order our dessert before I order my mail.
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Speaker 1: I kid you not. They got a banana split or
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Speaker 1: milkshake or Sunday, it will come to my before you
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Speaker 1: guys eaven order a meal. And I'm cool with that.
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Speaker 1: I'm just lett y'all know who y'are talking to, you know,
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Speaker 1: because y'all trying to We're gonna build up. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: build on that. You know what you're saying. That's all
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's all I'm saying to you. You know,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to shock anybod We're gonna build up because, um,
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Speaker 1: what's your show is based on? Like you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? The first far as uses for life in
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Speaker 1: pharmacy for life, Like we have a slogan, right you can.
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Speaker 1: You can have all the money in the world, right
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Speaker 1: and I could be dead broke if you ain't. If
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Speaker 1: you're not healthy, and I'm healthy, I'm gonna enjoy my
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Speaker 1: life better than you can. As you could be financially wealthy,
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Speaker 1: you could be the richest guy in the world, but
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Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're not taking if you're not
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Speaker 1: making that investment in your temple, in your own body,
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Speaker 1: you will not enjoy that money as long as you
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Speaker 1: should be able to enjoy that money. And anything can
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Speaker 1: happened to anybody on any given day. But it's good
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Speaker 1: to try to at least practice how to enjoy life
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Speaker 1: and all the things you can get out of life
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Speaker 1: as much as you can. And that starts with a
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Speaker 1: just knowing what you put in your body, like you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. That starts with saying, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure when I see you, you always look shop.
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Speaker 1: You know you look shop. I'm pretty sure when you
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Speaker 1: when you drive your car, you've got the best gas
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Speaker 1: and the best oil in your car. Like you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm pretty sure. Body as many you
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Speaker 1: wash your body as many times as day day as
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Speaker 1: you can. You have to care about the inside of
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Speaker 1: your body as well. So we you just you know,
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Speaker 1: um our job at Pharmacy for Life and Juice for
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Speaker 1: Life and it's the Stout family, and it's just to
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Speaker 1: tell people you gotta know what you You gotta care
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Speaker 1: about the inside as well as the outside. You gotta
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Speaker 1: you know, you know what you're putting on your body,
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Speaker 1: Know what you're putting in your body. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: especially at this time's winning right now, you have to
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Speaker 1: you can't. You have to boost your immune system. Just
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Speaker 1: watch what you eat. And you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's where the that's where the real health,
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Speaker 1: the real the real wealth is in your health. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's really great. I was just gonna comment on him
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Speaker 1: because he's he's he's led me, you know, because because
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Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, I'm an interesting guy,
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Speaker 1: you know, because I know my body. You know, I
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Speaker 1: know if I'm about to get sick, I know, and
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Speaker 1: I always tell people, and your message about knowing your
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Speaker 1: body is key. It's very key because because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that what I want to tell everybody is that,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was super baddy and I haven't dropped
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Speaker 1: off of my dessert yet. But now I don't eat
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Speaker 1: meat as much, you know, vegetables over huh, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, and I don't know why, team,
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I've stopped. It's just that it
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Speaker 1: seems like my taste buds have changed. I had to
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Speaker 1: have a hamburger, I had to have a steak, I
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Speaker 1: had to have something meat in front of meat all
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Speaker 1: the time. Now I'm comfortable with you know, brand Cereal.
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Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with, you know, any type of good vegetable,
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Speaker 1: good salads. You know this. Yesterday I ain't even a
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Speaker 1: nice frozen uh with the waller Milton pineapple banana with
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Speaker 1: some juice smoothie made that. You know, that's what that
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Speaker 1: was my breakfast, you know. And so just a random change.
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Speaker 1: Well you know that. That's why I'm just talking that.
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Speaker 1: That's why I love styles. When he bust me down,
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Speaker 1: you know, because you know he was, you know he was,
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Speaker 1: He's already he was shepherding me in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: I'm just letting you guys know, I'm trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out why is this happening to me? Because he's right,
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I have no fear of dying. I have
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Speaker 1: no fear of dying, you know, because I wake up
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Speaker 1: every day. God gonna get me up. I got an
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Speaker 1: alarm clocket, like my alarm clock goes up at four o'clock.
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Speaker 1: I got up, I swear to you at three ft
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Speaker 1: and nine. Okay, you know, just just my that's that's
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Speaker 1: my mind. You do it enough, your mind says we'll
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Speaker 1: get up and so and so when when he started talking,
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Speaker 1: I started laughing because I go, he's he's telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: But I got two experts on the phone. Who talks
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Speaker 1: about juicing, who talks about plant based wellness products. Why
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Speaker 1: is ra Sean McDonald suddenly making this shift in his
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Speaker 1: eating habits? It is because he just is this better
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Speaker 1: quality out that better quality available for me to go
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Speaker 1: the whole Foods and all these different places where I
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Speaker 1: go and get products that are not you know, feed
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Speaker 1: by chemicals. What do you what do you think that
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Speaker 1: is making that shift to me? Well, that's what I'm
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Speaker 1: asking you. I'm actually curious. I don't know, just just
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Speaker 1: being you know, in conversation or reading things or just
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Speaker 1: imploring and just wanting to change. So normally it's most
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Speaker 1: people's diet changes, uh come from ailments, you know, or
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Speaker 1: issues that they have and then they feel inclined to
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Speaker 1: change their diets, so, you know, or just exposure or
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Speaker 1: you know, just seeing more of certain things or wanting
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Speaker 1: to feel better. And then after you eat and you know,
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Speaker 1: taste and try certain things, you notice how your body
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Speaker 1: responds to it. So I guess you, you know, actually
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Speaker 1: want more of that. So a lot of that starts
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Speaker 1: to happen. But I don't really know your dynamic, like
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Speaker 1: you know, why, what's Maybe it's the good feeling that
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Speaker 1: you're good And I would tell you this, I would
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Speaker 1: tell you this inen I was. I've been doing the
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Speaker 1: show since seventeen and one. Thank you both for doing
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Speaker 1: my show. And Morris Chester. I had a book out
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Speaker 1: it was called it was a fitness book, and he
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Speaker 1: had a and he had you could lose ten pounds
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Speaker 1: in ten days and that you know, usually when people
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Speaker 1: were coming around, sh read your books or if you
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Speaker 1: send me the tape I watched. I know what I
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Speaker 1: do not do is saying bag on uh interview And
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Speaker 1: so so I said, you'll be cool, you know, let
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Speaker 1: me go and see if I can lose some weight.
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Speaker 1: And when you get on the radio, I would go, uh, hey, man, wait,
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Speaker 1: well I lost nine pounds when you got on there,
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Speaker 1: and so I've lost sixteen pounds since then. It's so
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Speaker 1: it's so my weight, my weight right now is like
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Speaker 1: one ninty four okay, and uh one ninety four. This
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Speaker 1: just this this stays around there. And so now I
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Speaker 1: don't even do weight anymore. I just do a lot
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Speaker 1: of stretching. I do. I eat. I eat this good
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Speaker 1: lifestyle that you guys are talking about, and I just
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Speaker 1: won't let everybody know that what you guys are talking
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Speaker 1: about has made me feel better, has my you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, everything flows a lot better for me. I
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Speaker 1: drink a lot more water. Is that what you guys
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Speaker 1: are preaching, because that's what you were saying. Initial statement
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Speaker 1: to me styles stop stop it. That's it, Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, what you're doing life and what you
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Speaker 1: the time you take out to do what you do,
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Speaker 1: which is teach and have entrepreneurs on and young successful
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Speaker 1: people and older successful people, middle age successful people. So
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Speaker 1: to preach and us to push forward of success, you
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Speaker 1: have to want to be the best year you can be.
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Speaker 1: So you feel better with ian clean what you did.
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Speaker 1: You started the act of doing when you picked up
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Speaker 1: that book and you lost that ten pounds. That was
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Speaker 1: the act of you study, just talking about it, thinking
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Speaker 1: about it, or doing stuff. You started doing things. And
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Speaker 1: once you start doing things and you start subconsciously and
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Speaker 1: consciously either or sometimes it's both. Sometimes it's one. Um,
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Speaker 1: you just start really saying, Hey, I like how I feel,
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Speaker 1: I like how I'm looking, I like the fact you
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Speaker 1: know that my energy feels a certain way. And so
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Speaker 1: that act of doing leads you to keep wanting the
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Speaker 1: search and do better. And that's what this whole thing
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Speaker 1: ab out wellness is about. It's not about being us
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Speaker 1: being goal rules are super knowledgeable people. It's about us
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Speaker 1: wanting our community is better. And I started with feeling better.
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Speaker 1: Because once you feel better, or my wife feels better,
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Speaker 1: and you tell your wife, and my wife tells me that,
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Speaker 1: we tell look and they tell them on and uncle.
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Speaker 1: That leads to a healthier community all around and a
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Speaker 1: healthier just besides you feeling healthy, you want people around you.
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Speaker 1: So you just kind of want to spread a word
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Speaker 1: about feeling okay, like you know what I mean, just
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Speaker 1: bringing balance to a diet. It's not about us going hey,
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Speaker 1: don't eat this, don't eat that. I eat all plants.
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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you first before you do anything. Brother,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you just how both beefs, but
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Speaker 1: I will tell you go to Whole Foods and know
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Speaker 1: where that beef is coming from. You know if it's
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Speaker 1: graph fed, no, if it's not grash fed. Like you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I ask you a serious
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Speaker 1: question like okay, I'm comfortable with I know my I'm
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Speaker 1: going to Whole Fools. I'm gonna get my plants. I
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Speaker 1: didn't grow the plants myself. So the plants are tampered
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Speaker 1: with two so I gotta wash. But I'm feel safer
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Speaker 1: with a tampered with plant than you do with a
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Speaker 1: tampa with cat or chicken. Yes, like you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm pretty sure you would feel the same
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Speaker 1: way too. So it's just about one of the best
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Speaker 1: for yourself because really the what the wealthiest you could
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Speaker 1: be is being the best you you could be because
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Speaker 1: that energy will spread, your thoughts will get better, your
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Speaker 1: ideas will get better, You'll feel better. Man. And that's it, man,
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Speaker 1: Thank y'all. Man, I'm telling you something that this first,
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Speaker 1: this first interview, we're gonna do too breaks. It was
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Speaker 1: just for Roushan McDonald, Thank you, thank you, because you
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Speaker 1: know the thing about it, when I bring people on
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Speaker 1: the show, it's really about education for me because I don't.
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Speaker 1: I always tell people I wake up dumb because that
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Speaker 1: allows me to accept information and it also inspires me
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Speaker 1: to keep moving in this positive direction. That's what you
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Speaker 1: just did styles for me, he said, Roshan. Stop and
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna walk out of here with that mentality.
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Speaker 1: Stop just stop mentality, because you're playing with yourself now.
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Speaker 1: You kind of like straddling both fences. Here brother, what
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Speaker 1: you want to eat the bad meat? And then over
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Speaker 1: here run over and eat the good and drink the
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Speaker 1: good smoothie. What you want to do brother? The good
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Speaker 1: car on the car, but over here, you know, and
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Speaker 1: the meat or the hot dog killing you? What you're doing, brother,
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Speaker 1: What you're doing? Brother? You know? And you know and
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Speaker 1: that and that's the would tell me this, because y'all,
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Speaker 1: this is fantastic what I'm hearing on this call. Do
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Speaker 1: you guys do this a lot? I'm telling you, this is,
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Speaker 1: this is magnificent. This is I'm talking about. Man. Why
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Speaker 1: I don't see a webinar on you too? Okay, we're
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Speaker 1: doing more things. We're just we're just actually starting to
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Speaker 1: circulate more. So you can hear more of us. Come
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Speaker 1: on back and what it? Guess what? I guess what?
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Speaker 1: Please let me know so I can promote it also
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Speaker 1: in my social media because I'm telling you I'm wanted
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Speaker 1: these guys. I wanted them know at all too. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I've had so much success in my life. People can
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Speaker 1: come me and go yeah, whatever, I can do it.
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Speaker 1: Whatever now styles he broke strong on me early in
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Speaker 1: his interview. Let me just let me just see. You know,
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Speaker 1: he broke strong on me. Let me tell you something,
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Speaker 1: young man. Let me tell you something. You need to
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Speaker 1: calm down. You know you might you might walk out
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Speaker 1: that dude fall down and never get up because you
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Speaker 1: don't take care of your temple. That's what he told me,
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Speaker 1: and that he told me, that's what he But see,
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Speaker 1: he didn't like. He didn't like. Let me tell something
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Speaker 1: about what I love when people are gifted, like he's
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Speaker 1: gifted because he you know, he you know he you know,
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Speaker 1: because he's performed so many and crowds, and it's beautiful
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Speaker 1: when you were a performer, because when you walk on stage,
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Speaker 1: you don't know who's out there, so you have to
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Speaker 1: shape people. You know, they bought the ticket, but you know,
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Speaker 1: if they had a bad day, a good day, off day,
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Speaker 1: you know they might walk out of there. Girlfriend sitting
17:47
Speaker 1: with him don't want to be with them. Both we're
17:49
Speaker 1: about to leave it. You don't know what's going on.
17:51
Speaker 1: You're out there just performing. And so when he comes
17:54
Speaker 1: on my show, he don't know me. We talked about
17:56
Speaker 1: maybe we made two a couple of times to do,
17:58
Speaker 1: but he took it upon himself. Say look, brother, you know,
18:02
Speaker 1: is beyond the juices for life. It's beyond pharmer pharmer
18:06
Speaker 1: for pharmacy for life. This is about what you want
18:08
Speaker 1: to do with yourself. That's the message that you guys
18:11
Speaker 1: are delivering, and that's the message I'm taking when I
18:14
Speaker 1: wrap up this interview in this next break, because you're
18:17
Speaker 1: changing on that point of view. Absolutely. It's all about
18:20
Speaker 1: being your higher self as much as possible. Now, you
18:24
Speaker 1: came on the show up this this book, The Eternal Hike. Um,
18:30
Speaker 1: you know ethel apologize, Yeah, okay, apologize, Um, tell me
18:38
Speaker 1: about the book before we started asking questions. Okay, Well,
18:44
Speaker 1: the book is a culmination of a lot um Our
18:48
Speaker 1: daughter passed away in from suicide and um, that was
18:53
Speaker 1: my firstborn e styles this her stepdad. Um, so you know,
19:00
Speaker 1: just that whole situation in itself and dealing with that
19:04
Speaker 1: and trying to u process the whole situation. For me, Um,
19:09
Speaker 1: the best, the best way and the best outlet for
19:11
Speaker 1: me was to to write it, to write it out,
19:14
Speaker 1: and UM, you know through that a lot of you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of self healing, a lot of
19:19
Speaker 1: self understanding, a lot of self love. Again, just trying
19:23
Speaker 1: to get to that higher self. So with that, you know, um,
19:27
Speaker 1: being in the space of wanting to heal and be
19:31
Speaker 1: open and honest and you know, get through it. So
19:35
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna going to certain sections of the
19:37
Speaker 1: book that that I just took a little lines out
19:40
Speaker 1: and one of the first lines I grabbed was, I
19:42
Speaker 1: am writing this book because you believe your story can
19:47
Speaker 1: help others love themselves more. You can help them be
19:50
Speaker 1: kind hearted to themselves and have more patience. Yeah, when
19:57
Speaker 1: you when I when I read that statement, when you
19:59
Speaker 1: say love themselves more, what do you mean when you
20:01
Speaker 1: say that? Okay, well, and that there's a lot in
20:06
Speaker 1: regard to that. Um, I don't think a lot of
20:09
Speaker 1: people really take the time to understand how far they've
20:12
Speaker 1: come in life and how much how many obstacles that
20:16
Speaker 1: they've actually you know, you know, trying from, and they
20:20
Speaker 1: just you know, just they ourselves off and you know,
20:22
Speaker 1: keep it, keep it moving for the most part. So
20:24
Speaker 1: if you can just take some time to appreciate yourself,
20:27
Speaker 1: how farts come, you can just kind of love yourself more.
20:31
Speaker 1: For me, but that's how it works for me. Well,
20:33
Speaker 1: I think I think that understanding. Yeah, I think it's
20:37
Speaker 1: important that wanted on this show that you both of
20:41
Speaker 1: you guys have a defined voice, a very defining voice,
20:45
Speaker 1: and vote for your very articulate and both of you
20:47
Speaker 1: guys have had enough success in life to be have
20:51
Speaker 1: an opinion and and share it. And that's what and
20:54
Speaker 1: that's what I felt the book was sharing. That's why
20:56
Speaker 1: I'm asking you different questions because I want to make
20:59
Speaker 1: sure when you leave this interview that you understand that
21:02
Speaker 1: you both are a blessing and you are a blessing
21:05
Speaker 1: in with this book, because Let'm just tell you why.
21:09
Speaker 1: Because of the fact that you know, even though I'm successful,
21:13
Speaker 1: I will doubt myself because what happens is and styles
21:16
Speaker 1: can agree some Sometimes you can't go to tell other
21:20
Speaker 1: people moments of weakness. You can't tell other people. You
21:25
Speaker 1: can't talk to people by failure because people look at
21:28
Speaker 1: you different. They look at you different. You can't show
21:31
Speaker 1: weakness when you're considered a success because people are looking
21:34
Speaker 1: at you different. There treat you different. And so it's
21:37
Speaker 1: sometimes that's the part where you you start questioning yourself
21:40
Speaker 1: and you can question your every path and every decision,
21:44
Speaker 1: and that's where you that's where the love part comes in.
21:46
Speaker 1: And I took out of this book not only love yourself,
21:49
Speaker 1: but have people around you that you're comfortable enough to
21:52
Speaker 1: tell them when things aren't going good. Are you confused
21:55
Speaker 1: by something? That was one of the strongest takeaways that
21:58
Speaker 1: I had in this book. That's great, That's great. Yeah,
22:02
Speaker 1: and I agree. I agree with that. Um as far
22:07
Speaker 1: as the vulnerability part, that is that is true because
22:10
Speaker 1: Styles actually said he that is something he couldn't do himself.
22:14
Speaker 1: So hem he got still good quiet only man I got.
22:21
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was letting. I was actually
22:23
Speaker 1: just letting instead of win. And I was thinking about
22:25
Speaker 1: it because it just put me in a place because
22:28
Speaker 1: we we we as businessmen, focus on business and family,
22:33
Speaker 1: you know, so reading reading the book for me, I
22:35
Speaker 1: also got to take that out because even doing what
22:38
Speaker 1: with what we do with Juices for Life, pharmacy for life, music,
22:43
Speaker 1: reading the book made me be able to accept me
22:46
Speaker 1: and more vulnerable to my past, you know, to the
22:50
Speaker 1: things that kind of you know, carved me and maybe
22:53
Speaker 1: who I am it maybe kind of look at myself
22:55
Speaker 1: more and you know, it shows to love somebody and
22:59
Speaker 1: be with them twenty five years and know how intelligent
23:02
Speaker 1: they are. But to see their their work and their
23:05
Speaker 1: artwork make you reflect on your own past was was
23:08
Speaker 1: something touching for me, especially the Paul was saying, I
23:11
Speaker 1: couldn't really, I'm not one just by nature to show weakness.
23:15
Speaker 1: So the book for her to be that open, and
23:19
Speaker 1: it showed me that being open and accepting pain and
23:22
Speaker 1: accepting the things that that hurt you really actually make
23:25
Speaker 1: you very much stronger. Like you hear it. You hear
23:27
Speaker 1: it in philosophy, coal movies, and you you hear the
23:30
Speaker 1: master tell the student that. But to get it from
23:33
Speaker 1: your wife and to actually see it done in person
23:36
Speaker 1: is it's more open again, especially with like I said,
23:40
Speaker 1: well what we do we believe in in wellness, like
23:42
Speaker 1: our brands are wellness. So it was that's something that
23:46
Speaker 1: made me more well. Like I think we think healing
23:49
Speaker 1: and food and it's it's success and all of that
23:52
Speaker 1: is just financial or with food wise, but we don't
23:54
Speaker 1: often deal what I sold enough on a realistic level,
23:58
Speaker 1: like she said, loving yourself enough to understand who you are,
24:01
Speaker 1: what you are, what you've been through and its like
24:04
Speaker 1: it pretty much very it taught me a lot, especially
24:07
Speaker 1: with it being my wife, you know. So it was
24:10
Speaker 1: just odd that I took the same thing that you
24:12
Speaker 1: took out of it, and even more over to day
24:14
Speaker 1: and my wife, you know, wow, this is the power
24:16
Speaker 1: couple I got on the phone will be today articulating
24:20
Speaker 1: and defining, defining the path that we all should go down.
24:23
Speaker 1: And so when I when I look at uh, you know,
24:26
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book. And it's interesting when you write
24:29
Speaker 1: a book because you start remembering things that you had
24:33
Speaker 1: actually forgotten, or you start remembering things that you don't
24:37
Speaker 1: have no value, but it turns out to be important
24:39
Speaker 1: to know. It's really crazy. It's really crazy when you
24:43
Speaker 1: you know, when people start sitting down they started to
24:45
Speaker 1: ask you question. You go, oh yeah I did that.
24:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh well I forgot about that. But but
24:51
Speaker 1: that part that you forgot about shaped you. Yeah, yeah,
24:58
Speaker 1: And it's really and so when and so when I
25:01
Speaker 1: started reading your book, the reason, it was like it
25:04
Speaker 1: was like it was like we're gonna start at a
25:06
Speaker 1: traumatic moment and then we're gonna we're gonna tell a
25:09
Speaker 1: story and moving forward. And it was such a beautiful
25:12
Speaker 1: journey for me. You know, sixteen got your d d D.
25:16
Speaker 1: Talking about your boy Fred Mike. You know, even though
25:21
Speaker 1: you know sudden when styles came in your life after
25:23
Speaker 1: after board Fred Mike went away. Then he took it
25:26
Speaker 1: on responsibility when he called him dad, when she called
25:29
Speaker 1: him daddy and uh, when she was six years old.
25:32
Speaker 1: That moment right there, I thought, because it was written
25:35
Speaker 1: in the book, was an important moment in both the relationship.
25:39
Speaker 1: But how did it impact your styles? When she called
25:42
Speaker 1: you daddy? Um, it was beautiful, it was. It was
25:46
Speaker 1: shocking because you've been calling you David all the way
25:49
Speaker 1: up to that point, A long time coming. It was
25:53
Speaker 1: a long time coming. It was it was It was
25:55
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. I think when um, when you when
25:58
Speaker 1: you step into a a child, delightful, a woman with
26:03
Speaker 1: the child already, it's a fine line you have to walk,
26:05
Speaker 1: especially you know there's a lot of things involved, um,
26:10
Speaker 1: and you want to you know me, I've had a
26:12
Speaker 1: step father before us. I know how it feels like,
26:15
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just always wanted
26:16
Speaker 1: to be cool, let her know that she has so
26:19
Speaker 1: in there as a parent that loves us. But that's
26:22
Speaker 1: not over stepping boundaries and just it's forcing forcing the way.
26:26
Speaker 1: So for me, it was successful because it was the
26:29
Speaker 1: opposite of what I had always seen and always seen done,
26:33
Speaker 1: and it was approach. I think it was beautiful for
26:35
Speaker 1: me as a young father and a young fiance husband
26:41
Speaker 1: to be because, Um, the real, the real truth of
26:44
Speaker 1: it is, we would, we would. We would both compare
26:47
Speaker 1: how we grew up to the things we thought were good,
26:50
Speaker 1: the things we thought were bad, things we thought we
26:53
Speaker 1: shouldn't do and we should do, and things we said
26:55
Speaker 1: we would do totally different because how it made us feeling.
26:58
Speaker 1: So that was one of them. And it worked out
27:01
Speaker 1: to be beautiful and successful and we had a super
27:06
Speaker 1: dope bond, like you know what I mean. And and
27:09
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. There's just moments like that that
27:11
Speaker 1: I kept pulling out, you know, in the in the
27:14
Speaker 1: in the book. You know, you know, I thought it
27:17
Speaker 1: was a great moment when you talking about how your
27:18
Speaker 1: dad said get out, get out, you know, and you know,
27:23
Speaker 1: because that was just that. That's a dad, that's a
27:25
Speaker 1: dad saying, hey, you know you want to be grown.
27:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you grown. I'm gonna show you grown. Yeah. Um,
27:33
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things and they are relevant.
27:35
Speaker 1: Certain things are relevant to others, you know more than others. Um,
27:39
Speaker 1: because to me, just even reflecting back on it, that
27:42
Speaker 1: that that a little six year old thing was huge
27:44
Speaker 1: in my life in terms of her calling you know
27:47
Speaker 1: him daddy. But you know, to a lot of people
27:49
Speaker 1: are probably irrelevant, but it is a real kind of
27:52
Speaker 1: significant point. You know, it is very significant, especially as
27:56
Speaker 1: um first step dad, especially for me, you know so too, Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 1: you know it's it's all about, you know, emotional growth,
28:08
Speaker 1: physical growth, financial growth. And wonder line that stood out
28:12
Speaker 1: for me was like, well, you know, my man's styles
28:15
Speaker 1: started growing, his profile as a writer. He went from
28:17
Speaker 1: bad board money to rough ride of money. It was
28:20
Speaker 1: coming in left and right. And you know, if people
28:26
Speaker 1: don't understand money, you know, we especially the entertainment, money
28:29
Speaker 1: comes in ways. You know, it might not be that
28:33
Speaker 1: steady check now what yours. Being entrepreneurs, you can expect steadiness,
28:38
Speaker 1: but in entertainment, you know, big check five dollars, million
28:42
Speaker 1: dollars to million dollars can come your way and guess what,
28:46
Speaker 1: maybe six months later another check may not come, or
28:49
Speaker 1: or smaller, much smaller check comes and so when it
28:52
Speaker 1: comes in, sometimes you don't know what to do with
28:54
Speaker 1: the money, but spend it? How did you? Because I
28:58
Speaker 1: remember I had a I had. I was leasing them. Uh,
29:02
Speaker 1: I was leasing them cell of Mercedes. I was leasing
29:05
Speaker 1: like three cars. Didn't because I because I could lease
29:09
Speaker 1: them because I was making that kind of money. How
29:12
Speaker 1: did you jump? And I was much older than you guys,
29:15
Speaker 1: y'all were young. How did y'all translate that ability to
29:20
Speaker 1: mature with your money and move forward? Because one of
29:23
Speaker 1: the things you did was by a townhouse. It's three
29:26
Speaker 1: bare room, three bad townhouse were one of the best
29:28
Speaker 1: investments you made early on. But tell us about the
29:31
Speaker 1: journey into the money and evolving as young adults. Okay,
29:36
Speaker 1: well that was one of our first I guess our
29:39
Speaker 1: wisest person purchase the townhouse. Before then and in between
29:45
Speaker 1: then and all around then were screwed up. Okay, it
29:48
Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of messing up, a
29:49
Speaker 1: lot of trial and error we learned from and um,
29:52
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not it fluctuates the money. It's
29:55
Speaker 1: not really consistent in terms of in the business. You know,
29:58
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, and that's part of what, you know,
30:03
Speaker 1: why we actually started the other businesses because we needed
30:07
Speaker 1: more consistency, you know. So, um, just taking advantage of
30:11
Speaker 1: your brain, taking advant of brain. So let's yes, let's look,
30:15
Speaker 1: I don't want to shift. I want to shift the
30:16
Speaker 1: book out a little because I definitely want to give
30:18
Speaker 1: a little bit of attention to the Juices for Life
30:20
Speaker 1: and the Farmer for the Life, because these are not
30:22
Speaker 1: onederstand locations. These guys are in multiple locations. Talk to
30:26
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that, and I go, I
30:28
Speaker 1: ride styles with Jusice for Life, and now I come
30:31
Speaker 1: back with you with Farmer for Farmacy for Life. As
30:35
Speaker 1: you said, it's about full got you, so tell us
30:41
Speaker 1: about Jusices for Lifestyles Juice for life. Man, we um,
30:46
Speaker 1: we like cheers for healthy folks like you know what
30:48
Speaker 1: I mean. We just started to bring up um we
30:50
Speaker 1: have four locations in the job. God willingly um will
30:54
Speaker 1: have a location in every state one day. Congratulations. We
30:58
Speaker 1: just we just we just wanted to bring something to
31:01
Speaker 1: to the neighborhoods that we knew a food deserts as
31:04
Speaker 1: they say. You know, um, when you come from our background,
31:08
Speaker 1: you see just look at stores Chinese food stores, fast
31:11
Speaker 1: food stores, and we just wanted to provide something that
31:14
Speaker 1: people could come in and get some balance, touch back
31:16
Speaker 1: to their roots and things, you know, your mom told
31:19
Speaker 1: you Apple day keeps the doctor away. You know, always
31:22
Speaker 1: eat the eat the vegianes on your plate. So those
31:24
Speaker 1: are things we felt we're lost within our community. So
31:28
Speaker 1: we felt like it would be just small for us
31:30
Speaker 1: to show people away because people are often you know, um,
31:34
Speaker 1: like you say, we like nice things, man, like we
31:36
Speaker 1: we love I love nice stuff. That yeah, I love
31:41
Speaker 1: nice stuff. But being a wrap that, we started noticing
31:45
Speaker 1: that people, you know, they tend to look at music,
31:48
Speaker 1: they tend to look at Instagram, social media, and not
31:51
Speaker 1: really pay attention to the inside of their body. And
31:54
Speaker 1: we like nice things. So we want to kind of
31:56
Speaker 1: live as long as we can, and we want to
31:58
Speaker 1: prevent things that you know, Black people don't go to
32:01
Speaker 1: the doctor and get enough insurance in the hood. So
32:03
Speaker 1: we just wanted to provide something. Go hey, it's preventitive measures. Uh,
32:08
Speaker 1: ask some balance in your life, um, and you could
32:12
Speaker 1: come sit down and and meet with different people from
32:14
Speaker 1: different communities around the neighborhood and have a good talk
32:19
Speaker 1: over something healthy like you know. So that was our
32:22
Speaker 1: goal and we've accomplished it and we got a lot
32:24
Speaker 1: more to do, a lot more accomplished than to do.
32:27
Speaker 1: And by the grace of God will get it done.
32:28
Speaker 1: And if not, those we hope we lay out enough
32:32
Speaker 1: blueprint for people who aren't following and just take it after.
32:36
Speaker 1: It's amazing the good your turn. Ah, that's okay. It's
32:45
Speaker 1: the pharmacy to life, that pharmacy with an app. It's
32:49
Speaker 1: basically just Juici Life justter company. UM, basically the same,
32:55
Speaker 1: same method. But what we're trying to do is basically
33:00
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that don't have health insurance
33:02
Speaker 1: and we're aware of that. UM, we try to cater
33:04
Speaker 1: to those people. We try to cater to Uh the
33:10
Speaker 1: how should I say? Well, I don't want to say
33:14
Speaker 1: it's just like that, but anyway, people that don't This
33:20
Speaker 1: whole interviewee company, she stepped off now he stepped on
33:27
Speaker 1: sept off. Um. But basically, yeah, Pharmacy for Life is
33:31
Speaker 1: just you know, since their company. We have vitamins, we
33:33
Speaker 1: have supplements, we have c we have basically to keep
33:38
Speaker 1: your immune systems together strong. We have oil, you know,
33:44
Speaker 1: we have lad of Rock route, we have black seed oil,
33:48
Speaker 1: we have female we have barertops supplements, a lot more coming,
33:53
Speaker 1: a lot more coming, you know, I really want to um,
33:58
Speaker 1: you know, have a twenty two year daughter. And I'm
34:00
Speaker 1: going to drift them back to the book now because
34:02
Speaker 1: I definitely want to let you know how that book
34:06
Speaker 1: affected me. Um. I'm gonna slow down a manute here
34:10
Speaker 1: so you know, and you know, the nightmare is that
34:18
Speaker 1: I would have to bury her. And that's a nightmare
34:23
Speaker 1: that both you two have experienced. And that's a nightmare
34:28
Speaker 1: that I felt emotionally when I read the book, especially
34:32
Speaker 1: when I was able to read about your journey, because
34:34
Speaker 1: like it's like it started, it started. Each chapter was
34:37
Speaker 1: a growth, an experience, how she grew, how she lived,
34:41
Speaker 1: what she she was, beautiful, she was, she was popular,
34:46
Speaker 1: she was always active. People always were coming to her.
34:50
Speaker 1: You know, it's so no signals, no signs when you
34:58
Speaker 1: wrote this book. The ultimate message was we talked about
35:02
Speaker 1: in the beginning, and I'm just telling you how I feel. Um.
35:07
Speaker 1: I try to talk to my daughter, Uh, I try
35:10
Speaker 1: to not cut off. And when you know, when when
35:13
Speaker 1: we have a businessman might can be on the call
35:15
Speaker 1: with a with a client and her number comes through
35:18
Speaker 1: our answer. I've always done that because I've raised her
35:22
Speaker 1: on the I've raised her, my mom was raised her.
35:25
Speaker 1: I've raised her on the phone. Okay, I have so
35:27
Speaker 1: I have some clips that I want to give her
35:29
Speaker 1: one day when when she used to just call lead
35:32
Speaker 1: notes when she was four or five and six on
35:34
Speaker 1: the phone. I kept them. I kept there the messages.
35:38
Speaker 1: So I know the impact of of of a loss,
35:42
Speaker 1: but a bigger impact of your children and you're burying
35:45
Speaker 1: them and the what else. And one of the things
35:48
Speaker 1: that you said earlier early on was that you didn't
35:51
Speaker 1: want the drama or the trauma to slow your growth. Yes. Um, basically,
35:59
Speaker 1: what I mean on that is, that's such a a shot.
36:04
Speaker 1: You know, that's such a big heavy blow that and
36:07
Speaker 1: from what I've seen from you know, past you know
36:10
Speaker 1: experiences and and just you know other situations that it's
36:13
Speaker 1: it's really cycling. It can really be that much that
36:17
Speaker 1: people cannot move forward. And I mean, and that's how
36:20
Speaker 1: I felt initially when it happened. I did feel that's
36:23
Speaker 1: how heavy it was. I felt like there was just
36:25
Speaker 1: no tomorrow, there was no moving forward. Um. But I'm
36:29
Speaker 1: very I'm also very spiritual, so just in doing some
36:33
Speaker 1: deep work and trying to have a real great will
36:37
Speaker 1: to want to move forward and knowing that this situation
36:40
Speaker 1: was there to kind of break me into something else.
36:44
Speaker 1: I don't want to be broken, to be broken into
36:46
Speaker 1: something else, you know. Um. I kind of used that
36:49
Speaker 1: and knowing that I've had other experiences, not in bad,
36:53
Speaker 1: but that will be most likely the worst. But I
36:56
Speaker 1: just know, like I have to keep moving forward. It's
36:59
Speaker 1: just that I just I cannot um, I can't stops
37:04
Speaker 1: and all those things. Yea in the book described the
37:08
Speaker 1: unbreakable ball between mother and daughter on side note that
37:12
Speaker 1: they sent over sending you guys are working on a
37:14
Speaker 1: vegan cooking show. Yeah, we have a couple of things
37:18
Speaker 1: going on in regards to that. I've been talking about that. Yeah,
37:21
Speaker 1: I was getting to that. I was waiting for us
37:23
Speaker 1: Sigo though. You know, he's just a sideline. He's like
37:27
Speaker 1: a guy. You go, hey, mane go in there at
37:29
Speaker 1: tack on somebody going in there. They running, they were
37:34
Speaker 1: too many plays. Let's go talk on somebody. Yeah, we um,
37:39
Speaker 1: we're working on a podcast, a vegan couch show. Also,
37:43
Speaker 1: we're working on a few other shows. But we're keeping
37:45
Speaker 1: in mind of what's actually happening in the world today
37:48
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus and making show. We take our time.
37:51
Speaker 1: They'd be mindful stay healthy, playing it out right. So, um,
37:56
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37:59
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38:02
Speaker 1: to follow the diallines that we need to follow. But
38:04
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38:24
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38:29
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38:33
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm almost I'm almost wrapped
38:35
Speaker 1: up with that. Um. We're also going to be working
38:39
Speaker 1: on another book, but we're gonna get that. We're gonna
38:41
Speaker 1: get the cookbook out first and then she she has
38:44
Speaker 1: some she has some workers store for you. We don't
38:46
Speaker 1: like to lay all out through too much. We like
38:48
Speaker 1: our goal. But I got to talk to you about
38:51
Speaker 1: this before I go down. In your credit it said
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Speaker 1: celebrity baker. Yeah, I can talk to you about that. Yeah. Yeah,
39:02
Speaker 1: don't work Jesus, hold hold up, not hold up not style. Now,
39:10
Speaker 1: don't don't be like running over me like I'm I'm
39:13
Speaker 1: sliced bread over here. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
39:15
Speaker 1: I don't talk. I don't bring up that talk unless
39:18
Speaker 1: I got some juice. I had my day, but I
39:22
Speaker 1: gotta slow styles down. You're about to run over me,
39:25
Speaker 1: you know. But you're gonna see that vegan cookbook come
39:32
Speaker 1: out from US plant based cookbook. And when we do
39:36
Speaker 1: the cookbook Gold, we will not forget regularly eaters. We will.
39:39
Speaker 1: You don't just jump into veganism and plant based. People
39:42
Speaker 1: have health issues where they can't actually do that. Some
39:45
Speaker 1: people don't know just how to do things. We're not God.
39:47
Speaker 1: We can't say how everybody's supposed to eat. So we'll
39:50
Speaker 1: also just be providing something clean for you to eat
39:53
Speaker 1: if your meat, either alternatives or we'll just try to
39:56
Speaker 1: guide you to say, Hey, if you're gonna eat meat,
39:58
Speaker 1: this is the best thing you could do. But my wife,
40:01
Speaker 1: her hands are marvelous. Excellent writer, excellent chef. Will you
40:08
Speaker 1: will you be crying? Let your other power part of
40:10
Speaker 1: the couple talk. You know. Hype man a hype man.
40:16
Speaker 1: This is why I married him. Let him go on.
40:20
Speaker 1: You got a hype man for as a baker. I
40:23
Speaker 1: can't believe this. That's that's the first time in history
40:26
Speaker 1: that Baker had a hype man class delivery guy. But
40:31
Speaker 1: but the legendary hype man though, that's the that's the
40:34
Speaker 1: crazy part about it, because he's just throwing out that love,
40:38
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40:42
Speaker 1: see you guys. When you guys delivered this this cookbook
40:47
Speaker 1: or this vegan book or the cookbook or whatever, you
40:50
Speaker 1: gotta send it to me like a couple of weeks
40:52
Speaker 1: in advance so I can make some of them. Did
40:56
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40:58
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41:03
Speaker 1: You feel me absolutely, because because I'm really authentic about
41:07
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41:10
Speaker 1: have a conversation. Come on, now, come on, now, see
41:14
Speaker 1: see what I know. As soon as this this pandemic
41:17
Speaker 1: and you too, crazy people gonna see me. I'm just sorry.
41:22
Speaker 1: You know that. You know that already. Y'all both know
41:26
Speaker 1: that already because the fact that I have I have
41:29
Speaker 1: been you'll have taken me on a personal journey emotionally
41:33
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41:38
Speaker 1: my daughter on the cheek. I always hug, have a
41:40
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41:43
Speaker 1: whole or even closer than I feel I've already hold.
41:46
Speaker 1: I've already held her and will continue to hold and support.
41:50
Speaker 1: But more importantly, what I hear in this interview you
41:54
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41:59
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42:05
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42:08
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42:10
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42:20
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42:28
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42:30
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42:58
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43:00
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43:04
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Speaker 1: I would like to say my first I wanted to
45:30
Speaker 1: say officially my first celebrity friend. He was my first
45:33
Speaker 1: celebrity friend in Los Angeles. I moved with the Los
45:35
Speaker 1: Angeles and nineteen ninety the Next Guest performed every weekend
45:39
Speaker 1: five shows, Standing up, Common shows. There is a Day
45:42
Speaker 1: on Venice Beach from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety five.
45:46
Speaker 1: That moved out to l A in n eighteen ninety
45:48
Speaker 1: and was rightfully dubbed the King of Venice Beach. He's
45:52
Speaker 1: built an exciting acting resume that includes Blackish, House Party three,
45:56
Speaker 1: nor a Bit, he was Funny as Heck at Norbit,
45:58
Speaker 1: The Prince and the Frog, and his role as Mr.
46:01
Speaker 1: Whittaker on the classic hit television series Martin. He's coming
46:04
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about his career and it's
46:07
Speaker 1: very funny. Third book, Michael Gold's Motivational Please Welcome to
46:11
Speaker 1: Money Being Conversations My man, Michael, call you, Michael, call you.
46:18
Speaker 1: You know, um, you know this, it's it's it's it's
46:21
Speaker 1: nothing but happiness and memories about our relationship. You helped
46:26
Speaker 1: me launch my comedy club in Houston. And two when
46:29
Speaker 1: you come down there and perform one of the big
46:32
Speaker 1: names I was able to convince to come to Houston,
46:34
Speaker 1: Texas and headline my show. And and just but you've
46:38
Speaker 1: always been a giving guy. And when I read your
46:41
Speaker 1: read your book, I understand I can understand where it
46:43
Speaker 1: came from. The nature of growing up in Chicago and
46:47
Speaker 1: and having less but given more. That was that seemed
46:50
Speaker 1: to be the signal of your whole life. Correct, Yeah, yeah,
46:56
Speaker 1: I mean I really believe that it's all about giving.
46:59
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to have something, you gotta
47:01
Speaker 1: learn to give all to all. If you give everything
47:03
Speaker 1: that everybody, you don't have so much stuff, you don't hand,
47:06
Speaker 1: no place to put it. Man, and you didn't. And
47:09
Speaker 1: so let let's break down your family dynamic. You know,
47:11
Speaker 1: your father, you know, let's talk about this book. First
47:15
Speaker 1: of all, the book I'm talking about Michael Golds Motivational.
47:18
Speaker 1: It's his third book, and it's a very honest book.
47:22
Speaker 1: You talk about your mom relationship with your father, which
47:25
Speaker 1: at the time was physical, but your mom was really
47:27
Speaker 1: the physical person in that domestic relationship. You talk about
47:31
Speaker 1: being wolf. They were talk into battles, yes, to get
47:34
Speaker 1: into battles. You talk about get into battles because of
47:37
Speaker 1: the alcoholism, you know, And and that's something that carried
47:40
Speaker 1: over to our lives, to me and my brothers. You know,
47:43
Speaker 1: we all end up having some types of addiction. And
47:46
Speaker 1: our addiction began came honestly, you know, because my dad
47:49
Speaker 1: was an addict and his addiction with alcoholism, and he
47:52
Speaker 1: was just a beautiful man that we just absolutely loved.
47:56
Speaker 1: But he loved that bottlement, you know. And I mean
47:59
Speaker 1: if he could he get thing, and that bottle, that
48:01
Speaker 1: bottle was his thing, you know. And and and my
48:04
Speaker 1: mother loved him. But he drink up all the profit.
48:07
Speaker 1: So you know, he'd come home and we wouldn't have nothing.
48:10
Speaker 1: He'd be bubbling and he were one of them happy drunks.
48:13
Speaker 1: To the candidate, did he just drink for herself? But
48:15
Speaker 1: he wants to treat everybody else. So we'd be at
48:18
Speaker 1: sid that the whole house break broke. My mom and
48:20
Speaker 1: them would get into the fight. But like I said,
48:22
Speaker 1: she wouldn't she wouldn't really fight her. She'd fight him
48:25
Speaker 1: and she was five for even he was six ft three.
48:28
Speaker 1: She would attack him, you know, and he would never
48:30
Speaker 1: fight it. He hold up getting hurt, but she just
48:35
Speaker 1: she just really loved him. Go ahead, I'm sorry to
48:37
Speaker 1: go ahead. Oh no, no, Mike. This is your moment
48:39
Speaker 1: with my on my show Money Making Conversation because it's
48:41
Speaker 1: your book and I want to promote the book. I
48:44
Speaker 1: read the book. Everything's very fresh in my mind because
48:47
Speaker 1: it's very vivid book. You know. Let me just some
48:49
Speaker 1: things that just stood out for me. You know, seven
48:52
Speaker 1: years old, you know as Star foods, you know those
48:54
Speaker 1: farty ounces that you would uh, you know, take it
48:57
Speaker 1: to the house. My first hustle, that was your first house.
49:01
Speaker 1: Your second hustle was Columbia Records Club. I'll you some man,
49:05
Speaker 1: you broke back so many memories. Man, I forgot about
49:08
Speaker 1: Columbia Records. Man. I you remember, I'm Jesus man. When
49:13
Speaker 1: you when I was reading your book and you came
49:14
Speaker 1: up to Columbia Records club. I went, oh my god,
49:17
Speaker 1: I remember that you joined. They seen you all these
49:21
Speaker 1: albums and then it was for like eleven cents or
49:24
Speaker 1: something like that was love and sent for eleven albums. Man,
49:27
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable, you know. And then at each time
49:31
Speaker 1: I would send for him, I just changed my name
49:33
Speaker 1: because you know, I was sending for the eleven albums
49:35
Speaker 1: and then I take them across the street and sell
49:37
Speaker 1: them at the at the grade school didn't teach us
49:40
Speaker 1: for like three dollars each, so I was I was
49:43
Speaker 1: cleaning up. And then after I told the first time,
49:44
Speaker 1: I'd come back and changed my name. So first I
49:46
Speaker 1: do with Michael Kay, then Michael Keith, then Keith Michaels
49:49
Speaker 1: and Keith then Kya Michaels. That changed the let us
49:52
Speaker 1: around to relock and let them relock. I did about
49:55
Speaker 1: eleven times before they finally caught on that they kept
49:58
Speaker 1: sending package in to the same address, like, uh, we
50:01
Speaker 1: would cut that off. But what a great hustle that was, brother.
50:04
Speaker 1: But this is why I so enjoyed your book, because
50:08
Speaker 1: of the fact that it was just bringing back you know,
50:10
Speaker 1: your your your your car Bearcless Saber Man. It was like,
50:18
Speaker 1: you know, I I couldn't help, but just keep smiling
50:21
Speaker 1: when I keep getting the different sections of the book.
50:23
Speaker 1: And I was going like, man, this like memory lane,
50:26
Speaker 1: just talking to this. And you was in Chicago and
50:28
Speaker 1: I grew up in Houston. But we were basically the
50:30
Speaker 1: same age. But we were still living the life and
50:34
Speaker 1: enjoying moments. You know, hot water, corn bread, butter milk,
50:38
Speaker 1: Jim Teason only thing I took a fence on in
50:40
Speaker 1: your book. Man, your daddy loved butter milk. I love
50:43
Speaker 1: butter milk. My car. I couldn't do butter milk. Ain't
50:48
Speaker 1: butter milk, spoiled milk. It doesn't matter. You put a sugar,
50:51
Speaker 1: that bad boy. You put some sugar that boy in
50:59
Speaker 1: that's butter milk. And you would have thought he was
51:01
Speaker 1: a kid in the ice cream store. He was just happy.
51:04
Speaker 1: If they could see. I was like, I'm not having
51:05
Speaker 1: no butter. Now what about low on the hall? Did
51:09
Speaker 1: you eat pig feet cheese? See I'm chidling, see Michae.
51:16
Speaker 1: I'm just I ain't do chidling, but I love the
51:18
Speaker 1: hog head cheese. Now the good maybe a little bit
51:23
Speaker 1: worse than both. From now, I can still eat chidlings today.
51:28
Speaker 1: But I can't mess with the cheese and crackers. I
51:30
Speaker 1: can't even mess with that. No boy was come in
51:33
Speaker 1: with peace feet, and apparently you had to purchase some
51:37
Speaker 1: bad pair. Yes. So he would come in with hairs
51:41
Speaker 1: and the hair would still be on, and he would
51:45
Speaker 1: have him wrapped in newspaper. It wasn't even like it
51:48
Speaker 1: wasn't even like brown Butcher's paper. It was just newspaper.
51:51
Speaker 1: They wrapped on me in and he'd come and lay
51:53
Speaker 1: him on the front room floor and unopened the paper
51:56
Speaker 1: like he was opening a wonderful floral killer. And it
51:59
Speaker 1: would be like four past set of PC. I just
52:03
Speaker 1: run with him home. I just go. I just rather though,
52:05
Speaker 1: and start running. You know, I wouldn't come back to
52:07
Speaker 1: it becausen't heating them. Know. You know, My daddy always
52:10
Speaker 1: said my brothers to come and catch me because I
52:12
Speaker 1: was always running west thinking I was coming to Hollywood,
52:15
Speaker 1: but I'm really just going west on for the third street,
52:17
Speaker 1: you know, and they always just what's on point third?
52:20
Speaker 1: You'll get it. My brother come and picked me up,
52:21
Speaker 1: bringing home. I take my whooping in week call of
52:23
Speaker 1: to day. That was so funny, you said, because it's
52:26
Speaker 1: just an inch on the map. So I thought, like
52:30
Speaker 1: Chicago to California Hollywood on the map, I mean three
52:37
Speaker 1: thousand miles. Man, man this book. I was just letting
52:42
Speaker 1: everybody know I'm talking to Michael Car. Youre, uh, the
52:44
Speaker 1: famous Michael Car. Yeah, the Venice beating king to Michael Car.
52:48
Speaker 1: You gave his donations. When they want Star Trek, start wars,
52:53
Speaker 1: start start searching, Michael Car, Um, Michael. You know when
52:57
Speaker 1: I when I look at our relationship, I'm just get
53:00
Speaker 1: personal right now. When I met Michael Car, you, Michael
53:03
Speaker 1: Car basically took me on his wings because my car
53:05
Speaker 1: was famous. When I met him, he was famous. Okay.
53:09
Speaker 1: He would walk up to all the agencies and he
53:12
Speaker 1: he walked me in there with him, and I could
53:14
Speaker 1: I was. And that's why I kind of like learned
53:16
Speaker 1: a lot of things how to, how to the skills
53:18
Speaker 1: that I learned later on as a manager and doing contracts.
53:20
Speaker 1: When I was with him and he would just talk
53:23
Speaker 1: and here and I just see the agents and how
53:25
Speaker 1: they would react to him. I was how they would
53:27
Speaker 1: put projects together, and it was really inspirational just to
53:31
Speaker 1: see what you were accomplishing and you was doing it.
53:34
Speaker 1: You were just doing it from a guy who had
53:36
Speaker 1: a vision who came from Chicago and started performing on
53:39
Speaker 1: the beach. And that idea came from some guys that
53:42
Speaker 1: you was watching in Chicago who was doing street performing
53:45
Speaker 1: and you saw them getting money. You said hey, because
53:47
Speaker 1: at the time you said you never tell jokes on
53:49
Speaker 1: the street. But you saw those two guys performing and
53:51
Speaker 1: the checks they were getting or the cash they were getting,
53:53
Speaker 1: that changed your mind. Correct in Chicago, exactly exactly. And
53:57
Speaker 1: then I mean because I was on stages. I was
54:00
Speaker 1: getting on a little bitty stages making third ourts here
54:02
Speaker 1: before it ours there, and they was like, oh, you
54:04
Speaker 1: should come out in the street and do street performance.
54:06
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I ain't know damn street public.
54:09
Speaker 1: I'm not on the street big and people to give
54:11
Speaker 1: me money. And then I still watched them one day
54:14
Speaker 1: and they filled this little brown bag up with money.
54:16
Speaker 1: I was like, oh lord, I got the least traded this,
54:19
Speaker 1: you know, And it changed my entire life. That was nineteen,
54:23
Speaker 1: that was five, and it changed my life because immediately
54:27
Speaker 1: I became one of the best street performances in Chicago,
54:30
Speaker 1: and I made so much money. Then you know, winter
54:32
Speaker 1: came and when nobody trying to hit no jokes on
54:34
Speaker 1: State Street in December, you know. So that's what encouraged
54:38
Speaker 1: me to go to California, where I thought it was
54:40
Speaker 1: warm all year round, and I found Venice Beach Man
54:43
Speaker 1: and I mean those nine years then defined to me
54:48
Speaker 1: as a human being. It actually defined let's let's describe
54:53
Speaker 1: exactly for people to know what was going on here. Okay.
54:56
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a small crowd, you know, and it
54:59
Speaker 1: Venice Beach in Venus Beach. If you go there, if
55:01
Speaker 1: you go to California, you gotta go to Venice Beach.
55:03
Speaker 1: It's like a walking entertainment. And anything that you have
55:07
Speaker 1: heard about Venus Beach, the Muscle Beach is still there. Okay.
55:11
Speaker 1: Women walking around Scanton clad in bikinis they do that. Okay,
55:16
Speaker 1: they roller skating down on in bikinis they do that. Okay,
55:22
Speaker 1: thongs they do that, and women and so so so
55:30
Speaker 1: imagine me. You know, this big, huge crowd I'm talking about,
55:35
Speaker 1: I would have to say anywhere from three or four
55:37
Speaker 1: hundred people just in a big crowd, and he had
55:40
Speaker 1: this young man, young man in the middle of them,
55:43
Speaker 1: just entertaining them. And I mean for that's said. What
55:47
Speaker 1: you said was about anywhere about forty minutes, wasn't it, Michael?
55:50
Speaker 1: That you were out there each show was an hour.
55:53
Speaker 1: I would do forty minutes of comedy and then twenty
55:55
Speaker 1: minutes to get my money. Absolutely, that's right. And then
55:58
Speaker 1: he had a little the little you know, like he
56:00
Speaker 1: was funny, the money grabbed what you're like, the little
56:02
Speaker 1: you know when you walk around you pick up trash
56:04
Speaker 1: off the off the ground. He had that, I remember, Michael,
56:08
Speaker 1: and I would I would look at this, Wow, how
56:11
Speaker 1: could he do that? Because I'm talking about this has
56:14
Speaker 1: Venice Beach so beautiful sunshine, you know, and so people
56:19
Speaker 1: have stopped what they were doing, and he held them.
56:23
Speaker 1: I mean he said, come on, arong, come on, aroung ground,
56:25
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden the crowd ground, and then
56:27
Speaker 1: then more people will come, and then the end he
56:29
Speaker 1: got his money and he went on. By this business, Michael,
56:32
Speaker 1: how did you do it? Man? On the amount of
56:36
Speaker 1: concentration you had to have to be able to perform
56:39
Speaker 1: like that in any event where Sunny's Guys, Pretty Women,
56:43
Speaker 1: muscle beach, food, live music, other competitors out there performing
56:48
Speaker 1: on the streets. How did you pull it off. And
56:50
Speaker 1: then here's the funny point. I would ask Micael, to Micael,
56:53
Speaker 1: because you have to get your spot, and he had
56:55
Speaker 1: he had the same spot all the time because you
56:58
Speaker 1: so he said, no, no, Shine, I got I paid
57:00
Speaker 1: somebody they come there and get my spot early. I
57:05
Speaker 1: mostly came early on my own. You know, I wish
57:09
Speaker 1: I could have done that one. I wish I could
57:11
Speaker 1: have paid somebody. I was too stupid for that. I
57:13
Speaker 1: would come early enough. And because it's a funny story
57:16
Speaker 1: about that, and like just to give a quick quick
57:18
Speaker 1: recap of it, I would go every Saturday and Sunday,
57:21
Speaker 1: and I'd worked from noon until five pm, roughly five.
57:23
Speaker 1: When I was shows, I'd be surrounded by anywhere from
57:26
Speaker 1: three to seven d people. And I did it through
57:29
Speaker 1: necessity because when I got to California, I thought I
57:31
Speaker 1: was gonna hit clubs and make money and that wasnot
57:34
Speaker 1: And then I went to Venice Beach and white folks
57:37
Speaker 1: would come up and put money right in the basket
57:39
Speaker 1: and I had to steal nothing. I had to cheat
57:42
Speaker 1: to tell a couple of jokes. And so I started
57:44
Speaker 1: out trying to go every single day. I tried to
57:46
Speaker 1: do every day out there. But I discovered from working
57:49
Speaker 1: it that the money was only there on the weekend,
57:52
Speaker 1: and the money was really only there from noon until five,
57:55
Speaker 1: because after five o'clock, Uh, all the white folks left
57:59
Speaker 1: and took their money with him, and the brothers in
58:01
Speaker 1: histantics would come out with bad attitudes, and so it
58:04
Speaker 1: wasn't really no need to stay there after that. And
58:07
Speaker 1: then didn't show up and feel new, go ahead. Now,
58:12
Speaker 1: I was just I was just obviously enjoying because you're
58:14
Speaker 1: taking me back down, relaying because of the fact that
58:17
Speaker 1: everything he's said, like I said, I didn't, I didn't
58:19
Speaker 1: if that seven hundred number was not a lie all
58:23
Speaker 1: it was like people were peeping over over a people
58:26
Speaker 1: sitting the top of each other's shoulders so they can
58:27
Speaker 1: see the show. Because he was he was just surrounded
58:30
Speaker 1: and he had enough space to be able to entertain himself.
58:34
Speaker 1: And then sometimes now then sometimes you offer like wouldn't
58:37
Speaker 1: he let other people perform? And sometimes to do your
58:40
Speaker 1: set sometimes because you you didn't be not and then
58:42
Speaker 1: another artist would come along, even the great Charlie Burnett,
58:45
Speaker 1: who was a great street performer in New York. He
58:48
Speaker 1: came out and did it once there's two kids to
58:51
Speaker 1: your comic guys named Seymour, can't think the other guy's name.
58:55
Speaker 1: And they went on and they're really famous in Vegas
58:57
Speaker 1: now doing comedy. And people would come through, but you know,
59:00
Speaker 1: a lot of people's working. Vince Beast then R Kelly
59:03
Speaker 1: came out there for about six months before he made
59:05
Speaker 1: his big hit. The boys became famous while they were
59:09
Speaker 1: out there, and you know, so a lot of artists
59:11
Speaker 1: came out and did their thing, and you know, but
59:14
Speaker 1: the thing wasn't be able to stay, to be able
59:16
Speaker 1: to stick with it and go year after year after year.
59:19
Speaker 1: So the first year I was sort of figuring it out.
59:22
Speaker 1: But at the end of the first year, I was
59:23
Speaker 1: teaching other people how to do it, how to get
59:25
Speaker 1: their money, you know, how to collect money as well
59:28
Speaker 1: as to do the work of it. Didn't show business,
59:31
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying about. If you ain't getting
59:32
Speaker 1: paid and you just out there, it's a craft, it's
59:35
Speaker 1: not a job. But for me, it was a job.
59:38
Speaker 1: So I had to also make the money, you know,
59:40
Speaker 1: and I would get people to compete with each other
59:42
Speaker 1: to pay me. So I would go group by group
59:45
Speaker 1: and I say when I say up, up, you put
59:47
Speaker 1: your money in the air and scream ye old, and
59:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this money. Grab on, then pull the
59:51
Speaker 1: money out, and now if you get a fat will
59:54
Speaker 1: be on. People gonna plause. If you could attend, we
59:56
Speaker 1: don't cheer. If you give me a point, we're gonna
59:58
Speaker 1: go crazy. So people pull out bigger and bigger bills
1:00:02
Speaker 1: to get more recognition that when I go to the
1:00:04
Speaker 1: second group, I say, I know you're not gonna take
1:00:06
Speaker 1: this off of them. I know y'all will do better
1:00:09
Speaker 1: than them. So they would try to beat each other.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: It will come times when sometimes crips and the blood
1:00:14
Speaker 1: will come out and they would take different sides and
1:00:17
Speaker 1: try to outspend each other. They try to see who
1:00:20
Speaker 1: could put the most money in the basket. So it
1:00:22
Speaker 1: became a phenomenal game. And every time I was the
1:00:26
Speaker 1: weller because I went on with the bath. You know.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: And the thing is is this summer I'm going back
1:00:32
Speaker 1: out hopefully in June to shoot it as the one
1:00:35
Speaker 1: hour special. I'm building a stage for myself that looks
1:00:39
Speaker 1: like a king's crown, stand in the middle of that crown,
1:00:43
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do a one hour probably show called
1:00:45
Speaker 1: the King of Business Beach. So right now we're in
1:00:48
Speaker 1: the process of of seeking folks to help actually come
1:00:51
Speaker 1: up with that funding. But it's gonna happen, June. I'm
1:00:54
Speaker 1: shooting that. You know that that's going to be special.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit about your family, because
1:00:58
Speaker 1: your family shaped you, Michael, and you talk about it
1:01:00
Speaker 1: in your book. Uh, Michael goes motivation. You talked about
1:01:04
Speaker 1: your oldest brother who, out of frustration, he joined the
1:01:08
Speaker 1: army went to Vietnam. He was only sixteen, told there
1:01:11
Speaker 1: was seventeen. He went over there and became a sniper. Uh.
1:01:14
Speaker 1: You talked about the impact of Uh, you know, because
1:01:18
Speaker 1: because it was five boys. You know, your your father
1:01:20
Speaker 1: who was a trade man, you know, six three handsome guy,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: he was a tailor. You know. So now I understand.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: I understand that. Now I understand you're looking at because
1:01:30
Speaker 1: Michael was another person, not that he always was shop
1:01:32
Speaker 1: I never understand why he was always sho. I understand
1:01:34
Speaker 1: that came from the family. My daddy was sharp, and
1:01:37
Speaker 1: so my oldest brother, Dave Jr. The one who went
1:01:39
Speaker 1: off to nob he too was so sharp and he
1:01:42
Speaker 1: was really able to be sharp when he came back.
1:01:45
Speaker 1: Being in the military, you know, he was able to
1:01:48
Speaker 1: go and get these clothes made from all over the world.
1:01:50
Speaker 1: He'd go to Korea, and you know when you go
1:01:52
Speaker 1: to Korea and get a nice super now dollars, and
1:01:55
Speaker 1: he'd go over there and he'd come back. And I
1:01:57
Speaker 1: mean when when I was in high school and I
1:02:00
Speaker 1: don't want to be an actor, and so when I
1:02:02
Speaker 1: got out, I came right to California and I stayed
1:02:05
Speaker 1: with my big brother for a little while, and he
1:02:07
Speaker 1: had wall to wall clothing, I mean suits from one
1:02:12
Speaker 1: end of the house to the other. He had shoes
1:02:14
Speaker 1: from one end of the other, hat tennis racket and
1:02:17
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I've gotta do that when I
1:02:20
Speaker 1: grow up. And to this day, I just loved dressing.
1:02:23
Speaker 1: I can't wait for an excuse or reason to dress up,
1:02:27
Speaker 1: you know. And so yeah, so I get it from
1:02:29
Speaker 1: my dad. It was a tailor and a presser. In fact,
1:02:32
Speaker 1: we grew up in the projects Chicago, Robert Taylor home
1:02:35
Speaker 1: for a three big two South State parking band on
1:02:37
Speaker 1: man and the Jewish people. But the old Jewish businessman
1:02:41
Speaker 1: would seek my father out that fixed close for them
1:02:45
Speaker 1: to create suits for them and to and to fix
1:02:47
Speaker 1: the clothing that they had, you know, because my dad
1:02:50
Speaker 1: knew about clothing and he was just a shop dresser
1:02:53
Speaker 1: and a classy cat. You know, go ahead, glad O.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: The reason I enjoyed here because this is what's in
1:03:01
Speaker 1: the book. This is the that that the passion that
1:03:03
Speaker 1: you hear Michaels VARs the storytelling and so you know,
1:03:07
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the book he talks about, you know,
1:03:09
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some typos, they're gonna be some corrections
1:03:12
Speaker 1: of this, about don't worry about that, and then then
1:03:14
Speaker 1: he repeats a red fox joke. That's what that cracked
1:03:16
Speaker 1: me up. You go. I know I said it earlier,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: but it was so funny. I'm gonna say it again, right,
1:03:21
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to say it again. It was like,
1:03:24
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm going to read the book that
1:03:26
Speaker 1: you're doing. You know, I'm talking to Michael Carl youre
1:03:28
Speaker 1: the book I'm talking about it. Michael goes uh goes motivational.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: It's the third book, Michael, this book in the end
1:03:35
Speaker 1: because you get really uh spiritual, you really go to
1:03:39
Speaker 1: the motivation. And the reason I like it because of
1:03:41
Speaker 1: the fact that I think, in other words, another for
1:03:43
Speaker 1: somebody to tell you why you should listen to my motivation.
1:03:46
Speaker 1: You need to listen to my journey. And your book
1:03:49
Speaker 1: is about a journey. Your book starts as a young
1:03:52
Speaker 1: kid and talking about you know, your failures. You know, uh,
1:03:56
Speaker 1: you know, being rich several times over, a millionaire several
1:03:59
Speaker 1: times over, and you know, and but it also shows
1:04:02
Speaker 1: uh flaws, And I think that you want to listen
1:04:07
Speaker 1: to the flaws or here the flaws too, because when
1:04:10
Speaker 1: I was talking about the beginning of my show, always
1:04:11
Speaker 1: talking about there they're gonna be failures, and they're gonna
1:04:14
Speaker 1: be mountains, They're gonna be valleys, and your book is
1:04:16
Speaker 1: about those valleys, correct, and how you how you still
1:04:19
Speaker 1: see the motem both of them, because the balance of
1:04:22
Speaker 1: the universe is that there are ups and down you know.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people think that the road
1:04:28
Speaker 1: to success is linear, and rarely is it linear. There's
1:04:32
Speaker 1: always the ups and the downs, you know. Like I
1:04:34
Speaker 1: like to say, I've been riched three times, but I've
1:04:37
Speaker 1: been broke fourteen from way more comfortable with brokes than
1:04:41
Speaker 1: I am. Riched me and broke, like first cousins will
1:04:43
Speaker 1: the first name basis I don't make hot water cormbrea
1:04:46
Speaker 1: from scratch. I don't make corn meal much, you know,
1:04:48
Speaker 1: and you probably know what you know what you if
1:04:59
Speaker 1: national it's on the direction for corn meal. Muchis on
1:05:03
Speaker 1: every box of corn meal. When you can't afford cereal,
1:05:06
Speaker 1: you burial corn meal and water, you put in a
1:05:09
Speaker 1: pinc of salt, milk and sugar and yum, yum yum.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: I mean, my parents were so poor they couldn't even
1:05:15
Speaker 1: afford the kids. The lady nick don't head us. That's
1:05:21
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, and so we so
1:05:24
Speaker 1: we we knew poverty. I come from public but when
1:05:28
Speaker 1: I got to visits, I learned money because people just
1:05:31
Speaker 1: paying me, paying me, paying me, and I didn't have
1:05:33
Speaker 1: a bunch of responsibilities. All I had with cash. So
1:05:36
Speaker 1: you know, after I so much money and so many
1:05:38
Speaker 1: people knew me, that's when my addiction kicked in because I,
1:05:42
Speaker 1: like I said, Robin Williams said, the best cocaine is
1:05:45
Speaker 1: guy's way of saying you're making too much of damn money.
1:05:48
Speaker 1: And so I end up started slow like most people.
1:05:51
Speaker 1: A little weed, did a little blow. Then I found
1:05:54
Speaker 1: that crack rocket and oh oh oh, you know, I
1:05:57
Speaker 1: end up spending twenty three years and in a crack
1:05:59
Speaker 1: of addiction. So as of two Sundays ago, as of
1:06:03
Speaker 1: March first, I now have nine years of pure sobriety.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you I lost more friends, more jobs,
1:06:10
Speaker 1: and more opportunities than I can't even name because of
1:06:13
Speaker 1: my addiction. In fact, I am certain that you recognize
1:06:19
Speaker 1: my addiction in a meeting I had with you, a
1:06:22
Speaker 1: very important lunch meeting with you, and I had been
1:06:25
Speaker 1: getting hot all the night before. But see, people who
1:06:28
Speaker 1: are are drugs, they don't think nobody can tell they're
1:06:31
Speaker 1: getting hot but them when they're getting ht. And I
1:06:35
Speaker 1: showed up, I had cleaned up, I had freshened up,
1:06:38
Speaker 1: and I was sitting there talking to you, and I
1:06:40
Speaker 1: know I was sweating like a Kelly in the playground
1:06:43
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even that hot. And and I know
1:06:46
Speaker 1: you was wondering, why is this sweating like that? Or
1:06:49
Speaker 1: maybe you wasn't wondering, maybe you knew that the symptoms
1:06:52
Speaker 1: of that dance that I was doing that threw my
1:06:56
Speaker 1: my whole game office track, you know, and something him
1:07:00
Speaker 1: though you have to the only way you can get
1:07:02
Speaker 1: around the thing, to go through it. You know what
1:07:04
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Well, that's what you've done, and you're you're
1:07:06
Speaker 1: absolutely correct when you said that, Michael, is that you
1:07:09
Speaker 1: know the journey. And that's why I tell people I'm
1:07:13
Speaker 1: fortunate to see and be a part of his life
1:07:16
Speaker 1: and know that when when when he talks about twenty
1:07:20
Speaker 1: three years of hell and twenty three years of trying
1:07:23
Speaker 1: to find himself in twenty three years of making mistakes
1:07:26
Speaker 1: and be an addiction, that's where the god. That's why
1:07:28
Speaker 1: the book is important because he talks about his father's
1:07:30
Speaker 1: addiction to alcohol. It's not something that that you know
1:07:33
Speaker 1: that he wanted. Sometimes you know when we've learned that
1:07:36
Speaker 1: through science that that is that is part of that
1:07:38
Speaker 1: can be like a gene trade in you and it's
1:07:41
Speaker 1: something you have to be. If you're aware of it,
1:07:43
Speaker 1: then you then you can you look forward. But when
1:07:45
Speaker 1: you when you're growing, that lifestyle was there was so
1:07:49
Speaker 1: normal to see your dad even though he was he
1:07:51
Speaker 1: was a tailor, very skilled person, but he liked he
1:07:55
Speaker 1: liked being like so when you hang out with people
1:07:57
Speaker 1: who buy them drinks and the money didn't come home
1:08:00
Speaker 1: because guess what everybody at the club or the night
1:08:02
Speaker 1: at the bar. It had a better experience, and he
1:08:04
Speaker 1: was gonna bring home financially. And so what you said
1:08:07
Speaker 1: it that money didn't come home. You know that right now.
1:08:14
Speaker 1: Money didn't come And that's why your book was just
1:08:18
Speaker 1: so so appealing to me. And it was such relatable.
1:08:21
Speaker 1: Whenever when I talk about you're talking about your mom
1:08:23
Speaker 1: was working at Spiegel Magazine. I'm when I was so
1:08:26
Speaker 1: Spiegel Magazine. I said, boy, I said if I could
1:08:29
Speaker 1: hit him, if I could be next time. He didn't say,
1:08:31
Speaker 1: because because he here's it. Here's a thing that I
1:08:34
Speaker 1: find relatable. When you start talking about Tasty Freeze, you know,
1:08:38
Speaker 1: going that getting baree. Let's go back to feel. But
1:08:42
Speaker 1: do you remember the Spiegel catalog. Come on now, Michael, Michael.
1:08:46
Speaker 1: In the back page be all pictures of little puppies
1:08:49
Speaker 1: that you could buy. Speak, Oh my god. I love
1:08:53
Speaker 1: the Spiegel and the toy section out of this world.
1:08:57
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I ever got any of it,
1:08:59
Speaker 1: but I'm love looking at them. Every I could wait
1:09:02
Speaker 1: for the Christmas issue of the Spiegel magazine. Man and
1:09:06
Speaker 1: Tasty Freeze. What you know about Tasty Freeze? There were
1:09:13
Speaker 1: two great magazines when we came up. It was serious
1:09:16
Speaker 1: magazine and it was Speagel Magazine. Now the Speaker magazine
1:09:19
Speaker 1: Liberty a little bit more fashionable, you know, little it
1:09:22
Speaker 1: was a lot as thick as the series magazine Sears Roller,
1:09:26
Speaker 1: But that Speagel Magazine, I think that was bigger in
1:09:29
Speaker 1: the in the in the black community to speak on
1:09:31
Speaker 1: magazine was our magazine. It was our magazine. You know,
1:09:35
Speaker 1: that was our magazine. Man, and we look forward to that. Man.
1:09:38
Speaker 1: That was that was online shopping before it was online.
1:09:41
Speaker 1: Thank you. You look at that magazine that people catalogs
1:09:46
Speaker 1: have it, yes, to have stuff that was in there,
1:09:48
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it meant a lot to me. That
1:09:51
Speaker 1: my mama's first job, you know, and and that and
1:09:55
Speaker 1: that was the beginning of her liberation as well, you know,
1:09:58
Speaker 1: because she had to leave my dad. And she didn't
1:10:00
Speaker 1: have to leave because she didn't love him. She loved
1:10:02
Speaker 1: my father and he loved us. But my mother wanted
1:10:06
Speaker 1: more for her boys. She didn't want us to spend
1:10:09
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives in the project. She just
1:10:11
Speaker 1: wanted more for us and was really really deep that
1:10:14
Speaker 1: I found out and writing this book with Shawn, I
1:10:17
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, it's a it's a journey of self discovery.
1:10:21
Speaker 1: There was so much stuff about my own family that
1:10:23
Speaker 1: I didn't know until I started writing this book, and
1:10:28
Speaker 1: question I didn't know. I mean, my mother ended up
1:10:32
Speaker 1: marrying Walter Smith, who was my stepfather, but I didn't
1:10:36
Speaker 1: know that he was her first high school sweetheart, that
1:10:40
Speaker 1: he she he took her to her first prim he
1:10:43
Speaker 1: did the block away from her. He was so deeply
1:10:46
Speaker 1: in love with her that he asked her father for
1:10:49
Speaker 1: her hand in marriage when she was sixteen, and he said, no, no,
1:10:52
Speaker 1: she's too young. And so he went away and joined
1:10:56
Speaker 1: the navy. And while he was god, my mama ran
1:10:59
Speaker 1: into my father, or he must have run into her
1:11:01
Speaker 1: several times. But car she up and get pregnant, and
1:11:04
Speaker 1: that was it for Walter Smith. Walter Smith was out
1:11:07
Speaker 1: of her life. My mother went on to have four
1:11:09
Speaker 1: more kids by my father. They had five kids. Twenty
1:11:12
Speaker 1: five years later, when my mama was trying to get
1:11:15
Speaker 1: our life together, she'd win to Spiegels. She'd have made
1:11:18
Speaker 1: enough money to finally go to Sears driving school and
1:11:22
Speaker 1: learn how to drive. She went and bought our first car,
1:11:25
Speaker 1: a Woodie, and she took that car to get in
1:11:27
Speaker 1: service then Robin's Illinois. And you know when you get
1:11:31
Speaker 1: your car service, h you're sending in the back. Afterwards,
1:11:33
Speaker 1: they send in the back, and they watched it when
1:11:35
Speaker 1: she went back to get the car, watched and who
1:11:37
Speaker 1: do you think is washing the car? Her high school
1:11:40
Speaker 1: sweere Walter Smith. And all I could think of is
1:11:43
Speaker 1: what went through my mama's head. And she watched Walter
1:11:46
Speaker 1: rubbing and soping and sochoping and rubbing that car. I mean,
1:11:51
Speaker 1: they kicked it off like that. Twenty five years had
1:11:53
Speaker 1: never passed, and next thing, you know, they were a
1:11:56
Speaker 1: couple again. She went home and told my father all
1:11:59
Speaker 1: best was, she was getting the divorce and marrying Walter Smith.
1:12:02
Speaker 1: And so she stayed with my dad for twenty five years,
1:12:05
Speaker 1: you know, and then she married high school sweetheart, who
1:12:08
Speaker 1: she stayed with until his death, you know. And he
1:12:11
Speaker 1: was a great stepfather. And we loved my father, you know,
1:12:15
Speaker 1: but we also understood what was going on. We watched
1:12:18
Speaker 1: the situation. We watched the constom fighting and my mother crying.
1:12:22
Speaker 1: We watched my father come staggering in the house and
1:12:24
Speaker 1: the mother didn't come home. We watched all of that,
1:12:27
Speaker 1: and we loved my dad, And I mean maybe six
1:12:31
Speaker 1: months after they got divorced, my father up and died
1:12:36
Speaker 1: yea fifty one. And I thought at first that it
1:12:39
Speaker 1: was from the complications from the diabetes. You know what
1:12:42
Speaker 1: y'all called the sugar, because he had diabetes and he
1:12:45
Speaker 1: should have been drinking at all, but he drinking fit
1:12:47
Speaker 1: the booze a day and spoke through that pack of
1:12:49
Speaker 1: pale mail serious, and so I thought it hardly explode
1:12:52
Speaker 1: in his chest. But when I think about it more,
1:12:54
Speaker 1: I am certain that he died of a broken heart.
1:12:57
Speaker 1: He just loved my mother, man, and she loved him too,
1:13:01
Speaker 1: but she wanted more for her kids. Man, you know,
1:13:04
Speaker 1: and sometimes the thing is over. It is over, and
1:13:07
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Speaker 1: But this book, Yeah, the book he's delivering to us
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1:19:09
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Speaker 1: Mikail Welch, Hey, thank you for having me. Well, it's
1:19:23
Speaker 1: always great having you. Got your energy up, my man, Yes, hey,
1:19:27
Speaker 1: I'm ready. It's premier day. Well, it's really because a
1:19:30
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1:19:32
Speaker 1: times that we're in at this point that was wondering
1:19:34
Speaker 1: is it was smart to be on TV at this time.
1:19:37
Speaker 1: I think you have an audience at the house looking
1:19:40
Speaker 1: for something new. Absolutely, I mean I agree, It's like
1:19:43
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1:19:47
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1:19:50
Speaker 1: this is the prime opportunity, you know, for I think
1:19:53
Speaker 1: for television and just people putting our content, but what
1:19:56
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1:20:00
Speaker 1: unity just to kind of working and craft or work
1:20:02
Speaker 1: that craft. The name of the show is Murder House,
1:20:06
Speaker 1: flip You know, I'm a big designer. I'll be watching.
1:20:08
Speaker 1: You know I'm watching. I watched the you know, the
1:20:11
Speaker 1: Cabin Masters. I watched The Man with the with the
1:20:15
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1:20:18
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1:20:21
Speaker 1: So I'm a I'm a big guy, you know, I'm
1:20:24
Speaker 1: I'm a big guy watching these flip these. I was
1:20:26
Speaker 1: not saying I'm doing it on my own house now,
1:20:28
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm a watcher and I think America.
1:20:32
Speaker 1: America is really into watching and learning and and it
1:20:36
Speaker 1: inspires people to go to stores like Home Depot and
1:20:39
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1:20:42
Speaker 1: their dreams. What got you started? But cal Um, you
1:20:46
Speaker 1: know what, honestly, I tell people all the time. You know,
1:20:49
Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason. But you know, I graduated
1:20:52
Speaker 1: from Fool with more House with a degree in marketing,
1:20:55
Speaker 1: and you know, honestly, one day my mom had a
1:20:58
Speaker 1: conversation with me and told me I needed to find
1:21:01
Speaker 1: my passion and that I would know what it is
1:21:03
Speaker 1: because it would be something I'd be willing to do
1:21:05
Speaker 1: for free. So I ended up, you know, going to
1:21:08
Speaker 1: work for a furniture company and that turned into you know,
1:21:12
Speaker 1: many other opportunities. But honestly it started from that one
1:21:15
Speaker 1: little steed me working in the furniture store and just
1:21:17
Speaker 1: going out on the women, just putting it all on
1:21:20
Speaker 1: the line to say, hey, this is when I want
1:21:21
Speaker 1: to go after And it all started from there. Now,
1:21:25
Speaker 1: furniture store, yes see, you're a long way from working
1:21:32
Speaker 1: in the fure What were you doing in that furniture?
1:21:34
Speaker 1: Were you selling furniture? Furniture? What were you doing? I
1:21:39
Speaker 1: was selling the furniture in the furniture store Storehouse Furniture
1:21:43
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, And you know, I really got frustrated because
1:21:46
Speaker 1: I wasn't a great salesman, so I thought, and so UM.
1:21:50
Speaker 1: I ended up transitioning UH to the warehouse and I
1:21:54
Speaker 1: was kind of like their um inventory manager, and I
1:21:57
Speaker 1: was in charge of all the products that would go
1:21:59
Speaker 1: like the Oprah when she was doing Hurricane to train
1:22:02
Speaker 1: a relief and something it sparked in me and I said,
1:22:05
Speaker 1: you know what, I really want to be the person
1:22:07
Speaker 1: on the other side that I don't want to just
1:22:09
Speaker 1: ship out the furniture. I want to be the one
1:22:11
Speaker 1: designing the room and so um after I mean, and
1:22:14
Speaker 1: I'll tell the truth. After several failed attempts, you know,
1:22:17
Speaker 1: I had three different interviews to become a buyer and
1:22:20
Speaker 1: it just didn't work out. My boss said to me,
1:22:22
Speaker 1: he said, y'all like you, but I think you might
1:22:24
Speaker 1: want to, you know, test something else out. And there
1:22:27
Speaker 1: was a gentleman on Craig was looking for an interior
1:22:30
Speaker 1: design assistant, and I applied got that job and I
1:22:33
Speaker 1: worked with him for a year, just really learning the
1:22:37
Speaker 1: business of design, how to run a firm. And from
1:22:40
Speaker 1: there I went on Craigslist and I posted um to
1:22:44
Speaker 1: design one free room for anyone who would allow me
1:22:47
Speaker 1: into their home. I designed the room for free, as
1:22:50
Speaker 1: long as they paid for the merchandise. And that's how
1:22:52
Speaker 1: I built a book, a portfolio. Now, tell us about
1:22:55
Speaker 1: those early designs, because you know you are there and
1:22:59
Speaker 1: they look at where they're looking at you as an amateur,
1:23:01
Speaker 1: when they're looking at you as a rookie, you know
1:23:03
Speaker 1: when they question your abilities. What did you walk in
1:23:06
Speaker 1: there to free? As free? Okay, we got free, but
1:23:10
Speaker 1: then you still walking into somebody's house about to make
1:23:12
Speaker 1: a change. How did you convince them at that next step? Well,
1:23:17
Speaker 1: you know what, I am one of those people who
1:23:19
Speaker 1: believe in the safe until you make it. And so,
1:23:22
Speaker 1: you know what, I did use my house as kind
1:23:26
Speaker 1: of like my first project. So I designed my house,
1:23:29
Speaker 1: had a friend take some pictures of it, so I
1:23:31
Speaker 1: at least had some stock images. We must have siss
1:23:33
Speaker 1: about fifty images all throughout my tiny apartment, but we
1:23:36
Speaker 1: made it look like it was several different routs. So
1:23:39
Speaker 1: I use that as my portfolio. And you know, you
1:23:44
Speaker 1: have to work the angles that you have, right. I
1:23:48
Speaker 1: love that, and so that's why, you know, people always
1:23:51
Speaker 1: get they always going how do I get started? But
1:23:54
Speaker 1: it's right there, it's how creative are you? Yes? Absolutely?
1:23:59
Speaker 1: I mean really work in your network, you know. So
1:24:01
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, if you want to
1:24:03
Speaker 1: break into design, you don't have any clients. Take pictures
1:24:06
Speaker 1: of your house, take pictures of your friends houses. Like
1:24:08
Speaker 1: you know, even in my current house right now, in
1:24:11
Speaker 1: my New York apartment, I have a wall that is
1:24:13
Speaker 1: solely dedicated to me rearranging things. So I can't always
1:24:17
Speaker 1: have extra stock image for my Instagram always. Absolutely, you
1:24:21
Speaker 1: know it's really interesting. It's just like me on baking,
1:24:24
Speaker 1: you know, people I just bake, and I just I
1:24:28
Speaker 1: have different ways I bake, have different dishes I bake,
1:24:30
Speaker 1: and so I use those to just sell people that
1:24:32
Speaker 1: I'm an award winning baker and I transition that because
1:24:36
Speaker 1: in January this year, you will name House Beautiful's next
1:24:40
Speaker 1: Waved one of the next wave designers. What does that
1:24:43
Speaker 1: mean for your branding, for your career at this point?
1:24:45
Speaker 1: To get that on, you know, that was a life
1:24:48
Speaker 1: changing experience. You know, just to be recognized, um as
1:24:53
Speaker 1: as one of the House Beautiful sent swenty next Way,
1:24:56
Speaker 1: it was huge. You know, for one as an African
1:24:58
Speaker 1: American designers, there aren't that many of us who even
1:25:01
Speaker 1: make it to the larger Shelter magazine. So you know,
1:25:05
Speaker 1: this was big for me because I felt like it
1:25:07
Speaker 1: was door open. This is going to open up the
1:25:09
Speaker 1: doors for others just like me who are trying to
1:25:12
Speaker 1: get in that door. But to think I came from
1:25:13
Speaker 1: Craigslist now to grazing how beautiful? Um I mean, it's
1:25:18
Speaker 1: the most rewarding experience that, you know, what I think
1:25:20
Speaker 1: a designer could ever have. So I'm just grateful for
1:25:23
Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's hard work, but you know, I see
1:25:26
Speaker 1: it's paying off. Paying off. Well, you know I met
1:25:29
Speaker 1: you I felt early in your career, Michael on the
1:25:32
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey Talk Show. Okay, so as I do, prep
1:25:35
Speaker 1: uh your for the interview, I'm going through. Michael also
1:25:40
Speaker 1: has the honor of designing room for prominent personalities, including
1:25:46
Speaker 1: First Lady Michelle Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Faith Hell, Harry Cornell,
1:25:52
Speaker 1: j halle Berry, and of course Steve Harvey. Now, what
1:25:57
Speaker 1: is all this happened? Did I miss all this? This
1:25:59
Speaker 1: was happening before you met me? You know, if this
1:26:02
Speaker 1: was all happening through you? I mean, this is another
1:26:05
Speaker 1: thing I think. You know again when we talk about
1:26:07
Speaker 1: making opportunities happen. So when we were on the Steve
1:26:10
Speaker 1: Harvey Show, every time Oprah came, Faith Will, Faith Hell,
1:26:15
Speaker 1: or halle Berry, First Lady Michelle Obumb every time they came,
1:26:20
Speaker 1: I was giving a budget to design a special greening
1:26:24
Speaker 1: room for each one of them. And I would take
1:26:27
Speaker 1: those red and I would spend my own money, and
1:26:30
Speaker 1: I would hire a photographer to photograph each room. And
1:26:34
Speaker 1: then once I got an opportunity, I would come and
1:26:37
Speaker 1: I would ask that celebrity if they enjoyed the space,
1:26:40
Speaker 1: and that little sentence that they told me I would
1:26:43
Speaker 1: take that and I would use it as a quote.
1:26:44
Speaker 1: I would never forget Oprah, I asked her, and I
1:26:46
Speaker 1: had to go ask her, I said, you know, because
1:26:48
Speaker 1: that I couldn't get that close to her. So it
1:26:50
Speaker 1: was time. I said, you know, did you like your room?
1:26:52
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh my gosh, what was that?
1:26:54
Speaker 1: That's a quote? You put that on your website and
1:26:57
Speaker 1: you know, so it's one of those you have to
1:26:58
Speaker 1: work the angles that you had. That's how I made
1:27:02
Speaker 1: that happen. Well, you know, it's it's one when you know.
1:27:05
Speaker 1: The thing I love about this interview is just you're
1:27:08
Speaker 1: not um. First of all, you you trusting yourself and
1:27:11
Speaker 1: trusting your instincts, and plus you are looking at opportunities
1:27:15
Speaker 1: because you're you're You're is your feel is a visual
1:27:19
Speaker 1: feeld walk in, you go, I don't think he knows
1:27:22
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Oh I like the way that places
1:27:24
Speaker 1: me in. And so you're taking advantage of those situations,
1:27:27
Speaker 1: those opportunities that come to you. And then when you
1:27:29
Speaker 1: promote yourself, you promote you promoting yourself with credibility and
1:27:33
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. And so so where are you
1:27:36
Speaker 1: now in your career as far as developing and building
1:27:40
Speaker 1: your brand out. So right now, my biggest thing I
1:27:44
Speaker 1: have to launch of partner with a company called Yosemite
1:27:48
Speaker 1: Home Um out of Fresno, California, and I just launched
1:27:51
Speaker 1: my first furniture line. So you can buy something. You
1:27:55
Speaker 1: can buy something, you can sit there. Absolutely, you can
1:27:59
Speaker 1: absolutely by on my website. You can check it out
1:28:03
Speaker 1: on micas dot com. Say I'm mad at you, Michael,
1:28:06
Speaker 1: because you're not seeing me any banners so I can
1:28:09
Speaker 1: post on my soldier because you know, that's what money
1:28:10
Speaker 1: making conversations all about, you know, you know, relationships, promoting
1:28:14
Speaker 1: uh successful people in the business, showing other people that
1:28:17
Speaker 1: they can be done. Now you've got a furniture line,
1:28:20
Speaker 1: and I've yet to ever post anything on my social
1:28:22
Speaker 1: media recognizing this new development or this amazing development your life.
1:28:27
Speaker 1: Shame on you. You're a busy man. I tried to
1:28:30
Speaker 1: hope bart you. I tried to wait to you know.
1:28:32
Speaker 1: I have several things, line back them up and present
1:28:35
Speaker 1: them to you. Sat all come with these little nuggets
1:28:37
Speaker 1: with the finish the story, how many pieces and how
1:28:40
Speaker 1: did they all come about? Oh so this is a
1:28:43
Speaker 1: great story. Um so funny, funny story. Uh So last
1:28:47
Speaker 1: year UM, I was there's a big furniture show that
1:28:51
Speaker 1: they have UM in Las Vegas as well as High
1:28:54
Speaker 1: Point Market, and I'm doing a tour and I had
1:28:57
Speaker 1: to take sixty people around to show them my space
1:29:00
Speaker 1: favorite vendors inside of this merchandise smart and I took
1:29:04
Speaker 1: my mother with me. So my mom's collecting all the
1:29:08
Speaker 1: free bags that you get, you know, from the vendors.
1:29:11
Speaker 1: But the problem is every time she stops to get
1:29:14
Speaker 1: a free bag, they want to talk to me to
1:29:16
Speaker 1: sell something. And I said, okay, mom, I said, my mom,
1:29:20
Speaker 1: this is the last store we're going in. And so
1:29:22
Speaker 1: we go in and I'm looking at a piece and
1:29:24
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to my mom. I said, I like
1:29:25
Speaker 1: that piece of artwork, but I don't like the medallion
1:29:28
Speaker 1: they put on it. Because lady stops to me and
1:29:30
Speaker 1: she says, what did you just say about that piece
1:29:32
Speaker 1: of artwork? And I told her and I'm like, oh,
1:29:35
Speaker 1: I put my foot in my mouth. And anyhow, the
1:29:37
Speaker 1: lady said, well, tell me what else you think. So
1:29:39
Speaker 1: we walk around the entire store. At the end of
1:29:41
Speaker 1: the conversation, she says, I'm the vice president of the company.
1:29:44
Speaker 1: We've been looking to partner with the designer who can
1:29:47
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1:29:50
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1:29:52
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1:29:59
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1:31:04
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1:31:26
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1:31:28
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1:31:53
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1:31:57
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1:32:00
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1:32:04
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1:32:09
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1:32:16
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1:32:19
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1:32:21
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1:32:23
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1:32:26
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1:32:30
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1:32:33
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1:32:35
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1:32:37
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1:32:40
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1:32:43
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1:32:47
Speaker 1: my coach with Joel If the two of us, we
1:32:50
Speaker 1: go into homes where people have you know, have the
1:32:54
Speaker 1: iconic murders? Have that absolutely murders? Yes? Mean the first
1:33:00
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1:33:03
Speaker 1: elderly woman who killed seven people by you know, poisoning
1:33:08
Speaker 1: them so that she could take their social Security check.
1:33:10
Speaker 1: So she buried them in her front yard. So it's
1:33:14
Speaker 1: it's creepy. Now you want to go out there embarrassing,
1:33:16
Speaker 1: put some grass down and put some plants down and
1:33:19
Speaker 1: have the children play over the dead bodies and all
1:33:22
Speaker 1: that good stuff. That That's why I love the show.
1:33:24
Speaker 1: That's why I'm kind of mad and half at the
1:33:26
Speaker 1: same time. Because I'm mad because I watched all these
1:33:30
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1:33:35
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1:33:37
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1:33:41
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1:33:44
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1:33:48
Speaker 1: you saw in the clip. You know, it's the clip
1:33:50
Speaker 1: where I'm on the staircase with my co host and
1:33:52
Speaker 1: I tell her, you know, I usually do say ladies first,
1:33:57
Speaker 1: but I ran down those stairs because it was a
1:34:00
Speaker 1: or g and I just wanted to get out of
1:34:01
Speaker 1: that house, like we filmed at night. Yeah, I'm laughing
1:34:06
Speaker 1: because you look so wimping when you said that because
1:34:09
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1:34:11
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1:34:15
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1:34:18
Speaker 1: And let's let's let's talk about because you talk about
1:34:21
Speaker 1: being interviewed. And here's the funny part about it, because
1:34:23
Speaker 1: you gotta give or for anything that you do, whether
1:34:27
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1:34:29
Speaker 1: when you got the opportunity to go down an interview,
1:34:31
Speaker 1: who did you interview with and what did your interview
1:34:34
Speaker 1: consist of? We're talking to Micale Welch. His new show, uh,
1:34:37
Speaker 1: Murder House Flip. It's on the Quimpy Network and uh,
1:34:41
Speaker 1: it's a short form show, correct work. How long is it?
1:34:45
Speaker 1: Each episode is less than six minutes, So six minute
1:34:48
Speaker 1: episodes that are on your telephone, really quick and easy. Okay, cool? Now,
1:34:53
Speaker 1: how did you audition for this? Um? So, I flew
1:34:56
Speaker 1: into l A I met at the Sony lot. The
1:35:00
Speaker 1: show is produced by the parent company Sony, and we
1:35:04
Speaker 1: kind of had what they call chemistry tests and for
1:35:06
Speaker 1: those who don't know, that's when they put a couple
1:35:08
Speaker 1: of different hosts together and so, um, it's uh it's
1:35:12
Speaker 1: kind of like a group interview, and so your personality
1:35:15
Speaker 1: just has to shine. And so me and my current
1:35:18
Speaker 1: co host Joel, we just kind of hit it off. Basically,
1:35:21
Speaker 1: what they do is they put an image of a
1:35:23
Speaker 1: house up on the wall and we have to look
1:35:26
Speaker 1: at a room and we have to kind of tell
1:35:28
Speaker 1: them together collectively what we would plan to do or
1:35:32
Speaker 1: how we re envisioned this house and so that Uh
1:35:36
Speaker 1: so you you were with a stranger, yes, and you
1:35:40
Speaker 1: have that moment absolutely, you know, in that moment you
1:35:44
Speaker 1: have to act like, you know, hey, Joel, you know
1:35:46
Speaker 1: we typically do X, Y and Z, but today we're
1:35:48
Speaker 1: gonna do this. But we you have to go into
1:35:50
Speaker 1: you know, that moment, act like do this all the time,
1:35:53
Speaker 1: and you roll with it. Okay. So what is her background? Um?
1:35:58
Speaker 1: You know, honestly a Joe is a high end um
1:36:01
Speaker 1: residential designer in Beverly Hill. So this is her first
1:36:05
Speaker 1: time doing television, so she's never done it before. So
1:36:08
Speaker 1: this was huge for her too. And so and so
1:36:12
Speaker 1: both of you guys go in and we talked about
1:36:14
Speaker 1: the show. Now, how many episodes did you guys take? There?
1:36:16
Speaker 1: Six minutes long on the quipit at work, murder house flip.
1:36:20
Speaker 1: How many did you take now in six minutes? A hundred?
1:36:22
Speaker 1: How many? But the way it works is we each
1:36:27
Speaker 1: house and six minutes excuse me. Each house has three episodes.
1:36:31
Speaker 1: So you kind of have like the true crime in
1:36:34
Speaker 1: the beginning, kind of the meeting potatoes, of the game
1:36:36
Speaker 1: plan of how we're gonna design the space, and then
1:36:39
Speaker 1: the third episode is the reveal. And so each house
1:36:42
Speaker 1: has three episodes, and I think that's great for the
1:36:45
Speaker 1: people who like true crime. You have a whole episode
1:36:48
Speaker 1: that's dedicated to, you know, the the background story of
1:36:52
Speaker 1: what happened in the house. So you feed me alone
1:36:55
Speaker 1: the way you feed me with my my addiction to
1:36:57
Speaker 1: true crime, you know exactly. And you feed my addiction
1:37:01
Speaker 1: to make over how you gonna make it over? And
1:37:04
Speaker 1: then you feed my addiction to the results now now
1:37:08
Speaker 1: and and do you talk about obviously these crimes where
1:37:11
Speaker 1: they were, Are these crimes resolved? Are they still like
1:37:14
Speaker 1: looking for the killers or what's going on with these crimes? Well,
1:37:18
Speaker 1: most of them have been resolved. You know, we have
1:37:20
Speaker 1: a combination. The interesting thing about this show is, you know,
1:37:24
Speaker 1: honestly a lot of people move into these houses because
1:37:26
Speaker 1: the first thing you guys like, why would you take
1:37:28
Speaker 1: the house? Well, if you have a house that's on
1:37:30
Speaker 1: the market, you know, for let's say six hundred thousand dollars,
1:37:34
Speaker 1: but then you come to the house next door and
1:37:36
Speaker 1: that's don step for three hundred thousand dollars. You might
1:37:38
Speaker 1: just take it because of the price. But um so
1:37:41
Speaker 1: some people willingly know, but there's a significant difference in
1:37:44
Speaker 1: the price, and they're okay with it at first. And
1:37:47
Speaker 1: then you also have some who purchased these homes and
1:37:49
Speaker 1: like the mid nineties who did not know because we
1:37:53
Speaker 1: didn't have Google. So unless you're looking on a micro fee,
1:37:56
Speaker 1: you would not know that a partyer happened until your
1:37:58
Speaker 1: next door neighbor comes to tell you have to you
1:38:00
Speaker 1: purchased the house. And so that's where you're running to
1:38:04
Speaker 1: the problems. They're not gonna do with a preacher, you know,
1:38:07
Speaker 1: not knock knock now. Uh. People died and there was
1:38:12
Speaker 1: a identity of drinking some liquids. And those are the
1:38:16
Speaker 1: cases where your baby room, your baby room upstairs, it
1:38:19
Speaker 1: was a murder, mass murder in your baby room upstairs.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: They didn't tell you about that exactly in your oven,
1:38:26
Speaker 1: you know when you put your dinner plates four heads
1:38:29
Speaker 1: up there, they put them in a row, four heads
1:38:31
Speaker 1: in a road where you got your dinner plates. Right,
1:38:32
Speaker 1: there's about just take you on the twil of disaster
1:38:35
Speaker 1: or your home after you purchased it. I mean, it's scared.
1:38:41
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest with you. You know. Um,
1:38:44
Speaker 1: I joke and laugh about it, but some horrific crimes
1:38:47
Speaker 1: really happen, and you'll see them, you know, in the
1:38:49
Speaker 1: next couple of Let me tell you some Let me
1:38:51
Speaker 1: tell you something. I have to be able to joke.
1:38:52
Speaker 1: If you made a decision to go into a house
1:38:56
Speaker 1: where you know murders have occurred, you can become But
1:39:00
Speaker 1: my joke, I'm sorry, and you cannot sit up there
1:39:03
Speaker 1: acting like you are fearful now when the price tag
1:39:06
Speaker 1: was not fearful. That's all I'm saying. My old thing
1:39:09
Speaker 1: is my old thing is that. That's why I love
1:39:11
Speaker 1: the show. That's why these people, you know, they always
1:39:14
Speaker 1: show these people doing the real looking at the shot. Uh,
1:39:20
Speaker 1: I can't believe that they really happened. You knew that,
1:39:24
Speaker 1: Like you said, house next door six hundred thousand, your
1:39:27
Speaker 1: house a hundred and fifty thousand, look exactly the same
1:39:30
Speaker 1: as the house next door. You're going, what's the problem
1:39:35
Speaker 1: in the front yard where the roses? Like, uh, eight
1:39:38
Speaker 1: people were buried there? Are you you still want to
1:39:41
Speaker 1: move in? Yeah? Yeah, we definitely had that. I mean
1:39:47
Speaker 1: one case where a gentleman chopped up his wife and
1:39:50
Speaker 1: like he was boiling her body part on the on
1:39:53
Speaker 1: the stove and that the neighbor smelt that and called
1:39:57
Speaker 1: the police. And so it's and people complain about Chidling's,
1:40:07
Speaker 1: people complain about the smell of chick really now that
1:40:11
Speaker 1: But you know the thing about it is that that's
1:40:13
Speaker 1: why I like the show. I like the show because
1:40:15
Speaker 1: of the fact that it's different. You're combined to genres
1:40:20
Speaker 1: in an unusual manner. Now let's talk about this. Now
1:40:23
Speaker 1: you're flipping this house. What does that mean? The murder
1:40:26
Speaker 1: house flip? What does that mean? So it's not sure
1:40:30
Speaker 1: it's so first let me give this disclaimer. So the
1:40:32
Speaker 1: people aren't selling the houses. That's the word flip, is
1:40:36
Speaker 1: us flipping it into something that's tops and if it's
1:40:38
Speaker 1: really what the connotation is. And um, we come in
1:40:42
Speaker 1: and we strictly work on the room that's been affected. Um,
1:40:46
Speaker 1: but the thing about that is when we redesign it,
1:40:49
Speaker 1: we have to make it look completely different. So this
1:40:51
Speaker 1: is not just oh, put acute self in the room.
1:40:53
Speaker 1: So we're like tearing down walls or ripping our fireplaces.
1:40:56
Speaker 1: So every time you see so when the when the
1:40:59
Speaker 1: homeowners come back into that space, it needs to feel
1:41:01
Speaker 1: completely different because we're trying to help them forget what happened.
1:41:05
Speaker 1: Like we're pulling up linoleum tile and we're like poor
1:41:08
Speaker 1: a solution that we can see the blood things that
1:41:11
Speaker 1: has speaken the room because a lot of so we
1:41:14
Speaker 1: had to really go in and change these houses um
1:41:18
Speaker 1: so that when they go into these room they looked
1:41:21
Speaker 1: drastically different. So seriously, you actually saw blood stains of
1:41:25
Speaker 1: thesolutely absolutely in the trailer, there's we're in the bathroom
1:41:29
Speaker 1: and we um the family didn't remove the actual tub
1:41:34
Speaker 1: where the husband you know, I guess would have watched
1:41:37
Speaker 1: the residue or whatever the blood. But but when we
1:41:40
Speaker 1: want to pull the linoleum back, there's a special solution
1:41:44
Speaker 1: that they use in crime scenes and you'll see it.
1:41:46
Speaker 1: We pour it right onto the floor and the bubbles
1:41:48
Speaker 1: and you can see it. It's gusting, right, and so
1:41:51
Speaker 1: that you had to like redesign. Oh. Absolutely, we had
1:41:56
Speaker 1: to gut it completely. I mean it was it was
1:41:58
Speaker 1: more than just the two of us. I mean we
1:41:59
Speaker 1: had as a team that would you know, come in
1:42:01
Speaker 1: and help us clean. Um, but we had to gut
1:42:04
Speaker 1: the rooms and completely redesign them. So you're even gonna
1:42:07
Speaker 1: see me with power tool. So okay, let me because
1:42:10
Speaker 1: this is really interesting. So you said, the three is
1:42:12
Speaker 1: a three six minute segments for each episode or each
1:42:16
Speaker 1: house for Flip. Just the first part is going to
1:42:19
Speaker 1: be what happened there? Okay. The second part is you
1:42:23
Speaker 1: guys are going in meeting the family that lives there. Correct, Okay,
1:42:27
Speaker 1: did any of these family families have children? Yes? And
1:42:32
Speaker 1: so I think the most interesting is going to be
1:42:35
Speaker 1: our finale episode. Um. Not to go into grave detail,
1:42:39
Speaker 1: but the young lady who lived in the house, she
1:42:42
Speaker 1: was a child when they first moved into the house,
1:42:46
Speaker 1: and now as an adult, she's still affected by it
1:42:49
Speaker 1: and doesn't like to even really go back to her
1:42:51
Speaker 1: parents house as before. And so that yees, So they're
1:42:55
Speaker 1: children there, they're definitely children involved. That's that's really I
1:42:59
Speaker 1: think that's all I have to put on a child,
1:43:01
Speaker 1: you know, that's I don't I don't think that's fair
1:43:04
Speaker 1: that the parents need there behind they actually need to
1:43:08
Speaker 1: really understand that that's a that's an emotional burden. Not
1:43:11
Speaker 1: only for that, but I'm sure she was teethed or
1:43:13
Speaker 1: bullied when she went to school about that, because you know,
1:43:16
Speaker 1: kids don't care, they get they get up on you,
1:43:19
Speaker 1: they're gonna use it. And to have a child to
1:43:22
Speaker 1: live in that environment is really, like you said, as
1:43:24
Speaker 1: an adult, she's affected by that. Correct, Yeah, actually as
1:43:28
Speaker 1: an adult. And you know in that scenario, they didn't know.
1:43:32
Speaker 1: They didn't know in the nineties, like they didn't know.
1:43:37
Speaker 1: But like you said, the neighbors came, they to do
1:43:39
Speaker 1: it with the cookies and say hey, you got the
1:43:41
Speaker 1: Johnson house and they're like, what is the Johnson house?
1:43:43
Speaker 1: So they didn't know, right, that's saying that. The executive
1:43:46
Speaker 1: producer this show is from c s I. He's the
1:43:48
Speaker 1: executive producer, John Berman. So he has a little he
1:43:52
Speaker 1: has a little something to know. And your co host
1:43:55
Speaker 1: is who um Joel Useel Joel Zel, I'm telling you
1:44:00
Speaker 1: something this show is I'm talking to Michal Well. It's
1:44:03
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, one of the top young designers.
1:44:05
Speaker 1: He never failed me. And uh, all the years I
1:44:08
Speaker 1: was executive producing the Steve Harvey talk Show and he's
1:44:11
Speaker 1: went on them to do even greater things. My man,
1:44:14
Speaker 1: Murder House Flip premieres on the Equipping Network three six
1:44:18
Speaker 1: minute episodes per chef for a house, and you're not
1:44:23
Speaker 1: exactly selling the house. You're just flipping the house from
1:44:26
Speaker 1: a murder crime look to a crime to a much
1:44:30
Speaker 1: more modern and appealing and in trying to try to
1:44:33
Speaker 1: get their family emotionally more engaged into the house and
1:44:35
Speaker 1: not the history of the house. Correct, Yes, that is correct.
1:44:39
Speaker 1: It's all about flipping that design, making it positive and
1:44:42
Speaker 1: allowing the family to like take ownership of the house
1:44:44
Speaker 1: back without that negative connotation. Oh my man, I appreciate
1:44:47
Speaker 1: you again. You owe me some banners so I can
1:44:49
Speaker 1: promote your show, also promote your promote your furniture line.
1:44:52
Speaker 1: Stay safe out there, but caall and thank you for
1:44:54
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1:44:58
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1:47:08
Speaker 1: money making conversation. My friend Angela Dean Great, how are
1:47:12
Speaker 1: you the good morning? Good and you're calling in from
1:47:14
Speaker 1: where California? That's city is uh? Kobe situation happened out there?
1:47:22
Speaker 1: And now we have the coronavirus thing that has life
1:47:25
Speaker 1: been Los Angeles a person living in the Los angelesvirus already,
1:47:30
Speaker 1: traffic issues is always environmental issues. How is life in
1:47:33
Speaker 1: Los Angeles for you right now? Well, it's looking a
1:47:37
Speaker 1: little uh looking, a little challenging, but we're making it.
1:47:43
Speaker 1: It's just a little grocery store issues. For everybody's safe
1:47:47
Speaker 1: and we're trying to stay in and and take care
1:47:49
Speaker 1: of ourselves. Everybody has to take care of theirselves right now.
1:47:52
Speaker 1: Do what's wise. Absolutely. I know I um, I live
1:47:57
Speaker 1: in the land. I live in Houston, so part of
1:47:58
Speaker 1: my family's live in Houston. So you know, I'm not
1:48:01
Speaker 1: going to do an air travel. Might drive to Houston
1:48:03
Speaker 1: just have fun and just see the country spin. But
1:48:07
Speaker 1: it's always about the creative process and your creative person.
1:48:10
Speaker 1: What is legiment is this question what are your gifts
1:48:15
Speaker 1: or what is your gift? My gift is creativity. My
1:48:20
Speaker 1: gift is being able to come up with an idea
1:48:25
Speaker 1: through various elements that I may have to use, color
1:48:30
Speaker 1: to a person's size, too, what the what, what the
1:48:36
Speaker 1: design may be for whether they're singing or going out
1:48:39
Speaker 1: to a special occasion or just wearing their regular attire.
1:48:43
Speaker 1: But put all the elements together that are important to
1:48:47
Speaker 1: that factor and create something amazing. Um My Gifts has
1:48:52
Speaker 1: been doing that for thirty years with the music and
1:48:55
Speaker 1: entertainment business, and now I've had an opportunity to do
1:48:59
Speaker 1: that with um By Shapewear and my fashion. Well, that's interesting.
1:49:03
Speaker 1: Like I always talk to people about when do you
1:49:06
Speaker 1: realize that's the direction you want to go on? Under
1:49:08
Speaker 1: understand that, you know, we all as we go through life,
1:49:12
Speaker 1: we drain. We see things on TV they inspire us
1:49:15
Speaker 1: and we don't. In college, some people don't go to college.
1:49:18
Speaker 1: Nothing negative, but not going to college. But as long
1:49:21
Speaker 1: as you're focused on your dreams and you pursue it consistently,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: when did you started sending that that the balance right
1:49:28
Speaker 1: started moving in the right direction in your career, within
1:49:31
Speaker 1: your your teens or earlier than that, when you started
1:49:35
Speaker 1: to be inspired said this is what I want to do. Well. Actually,
1:49:39
Speaker 1: I was seven years old when I made um Care
1:49:42
Speaker 1: of Shorts the Scars. I visited my auntie up north
1:49:46
Speaker 1: in San Francisco area. My mom, of course, didn't want
1:49:50
Speaker 1: me to stay on something getting like young, and I
1:49:53
Speaker 1: asked her and she had an old antique song machine.
1:49:55
Speaker 1: She said sure, and when in the trunk and gave
1:49:58
Speaker 1: me some fabric and I cut a pair of short
1:50:01
Speaker 1: at a band Danna and sat on that star machine
1:50:04
Speaker 1: and sewed. Because my mom had been slowing for many years.
1:50:07
Speaker 1: I used to watch her make evening gowns for her
1:50:10
Speaker 1: social and charity club. So from that point I just
1:50:13
Speaker 1: continued sowing on and by the time I got to
1:50:17
Speaker 1: junior high school, I was making more difficult patterns usually,
1:50:22
Speaker 1: so so you were saying that early on when your
1:50:24
Speaker 1: seven was kind of like imitating your mom or just yes, yes, well,
1:50:29
Speaker 1: just taking on something that I saw. I saw I
1:50:32
Speaker 1: watched hergers, but she used the design used to do gowns,
1:50:36
Speaker 1: UH make gowns for her social and charity clubs, and
1:50:39
Speaker 1: it made people happy, to make people smiles when they
1:50:42
Speaker 1: when they sell you. So that was kind of like
1:50:43
Speaker 1: that just seeing something to your mom, and your mom
1:50:46
Speaker 1: was excited about she enjoyed doing it, and then you
1:50:48
Speaker 1: saw the results. Yes, and then I started taking on
1:50:53
Speaker 1: the craft as well. And where I got into it
1:50:55
Speaker 1: the more just just was like amazing to me to
1:50:58
Speaker 1: be able to create various things that I loved and
1:51:01
Speaker 1: I use patterns, and so I got got more and
1:51:04
Speaker 1: more complicated in terms of the patterns I was using.
1:51:07
Speaker 1: I start using Vogue Vogue patterns um out of the
1:51:11
Speaker 1: Vogue book, and that really takes you to a more
1:51:14
Speaker 1: different level of patterns that you can make things. So
1:51:17
Speaker 1: that was really exciting for me. By the time I
1:51:19
Speaker 1: got up to high school, I was to complicate the
1:51:23
Speaker 1: Vogue patterns. Now, when you say that those are layered, right,
1:51:26
Speaker 1: layered patterns, they kind of like it's not like a
1:51:28
Speaker 1: straight just a cut. Correct when you say Vogue patterns, well,
1:51:33
Speaker 1: patterns meaning that you can have a style that you
1:51:35
Speaker 1: go through a style book because of style, and then
1:51:39
Speaker 1: actually buy the patterns to make that style. Let your
1:51:42
Speaker 1: fabric what you wanted to look like, but you actually
1:51:45
Speaker 1: cut it according to that pattern and duplicates what you
1:51:48
Speaker 1: see on the picture. So it's actually the patterns that
1:51:52
Speaker 1: are the pieces that you cut to create the carpity.
1:51:56
Speaker 1: So now you're out there. You know you you're in
1:51:58
Speaker 1: high school. Now how are you dressing? Angela? So when
1:52:05
Speaker 1: you came to I had a friend of mine, I remember,
1:52:07
Speaker 1: I remember his name, Jock Howard. Jock Howard for some
1:52:12
Speaker 1: reason dressed differently from us. I mean, he was above
1:52:15
Speaker 1: the curve. I think to this day he would come
1:52:18
Speaker 1: into school. I go, wow, what was he meaning through
1:52:22
Speaker 1: his mind that made him dress like that? Because we
1:52:25
Speaker 1: were just we were just dressing normal. But he always
1:52:27
Speaker 1: had to tie on, he had suspenders on, his shoes
1:52:31
Speaker 1: were always clean. But he walked differently than us. Jock
1:52:35
Speaker 1: Howard walked differently than than us. And I was even
1:52:37
Speaker 1: when he went to college. It was just an upgrade
1:52:39
Speaker 1: when he went to college, you know, because he was
1:52:41
Speaker 1: like he was. But when I was seeing him walk
1:52:44
Speaker 1: across campus, I was always looking him, go Jock Howard,
1:52:47
Speaker 1: and my god, he was just as a smooth So
1:52:50
Speaker 1: you was kind of like that person that was like
1:52:53
Speaker 1: it was a good thing. But then people couldn't understand
1:52:57
Speaker 1: how did you How did you get it so early?
1:52:59
Speaker 1: How did you figured out? Because now you know, I'm
1:53:02
Speaker 1: taking some Now me and Jock Howard, we'll be rocking
1:53:05
Speaker 1: the same. Look round I got, I got me and Jock.
1:53:08
Speaker 1: I got jocked Angel I got. I've been having him
1:53:11
Speaker 1: by thirty years seventeen years old. I didn't know what
1:53:15
Speaker 1: he was doing. I understand it's a passion something you
1:53:22
Speaker 1: pick up early and you take on and you do
1:53:24
Speaker 1: what to do. And yes, I was him. Oh my god,
1:53:28
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing because of the fact that you
1:53:31
Speaker 1: know it was. Here's the beauty of what I'm saying about.
1:53:34
Speaker 1: When I talk about Jock Howard, I'm talking to Angela.
1:53:36
Speaker 1: Dean is that I was not offended by him. I
1:53:40
Speaker 1: was just I was just curious that in my mind
1:53:45
Speaker 1: being so young, you know, we were playing basketball, Angela.
1:53:49
Speaker 1: You you know, We're just trying to just learn about life.
1:53:51
Speaker 1: I'm cutting out cars and magazines and trying to figure
1:53:54
Speaker 1: out driving the neighborhood, looking at houses with that house,
1:53:58
Speaker 1: I want that house. You know, car dride By, That's
1:54:01
Speaker 1: a car I want. That's a car I want. But
1:54:03
Speaker 1: Jock would go in this closet, put on the suspenders,
1:54:07
Speaker 1: skinny tie, you know, his shirt was tocked in his belt,
1:54:11
Speaker 1: everything fit right, and he walked down the hallway and
1:54:14
Speaker 1: I go, wow, wow he had and so you had
1:54:22
Speaker 1: that stuff. So you watch your mom, Angela, and so
1:54:25
Speaker 1: your mom see how I love the fact that you
1:54:27
Speaker 1: said you saw in the beginning, the middle and the end,
1:54:30
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's a really a special moment for
1:54:34
Speaker 1: you to see, because you know, I would see my
1:54:35
Speaker 1: father go to work, he'd come back to that. I
1:54:39
Speaker 1: never saw the middle. All I know he was just
1:54:42
Speaker 1: working all day. I know he had to go to work.
1:54:45
Speaker 1: He knew he had to go to work. He'd come
1:54:47
Speaker 1: back sometime he was happy, sometimes he was said. So
1:54:49
Speaker 1: I never saw the results of what got him to
1:54:52
Speaker 1: that level. And so to watch your mom start something creatively,
1:54:56
Speaker 1: just take some material and they start, and then you
1:54:59
Speaker 1: see people come pick it up and go and do
1:55:01
Speaker 1: you see the reaction to you and your mom get
1:55:04
Speaker 1: paid for that activity? That had to be really unique
1:55:07
Speaker 1: for you as a growing young lady. It definitely was.
1:55:10
Speaker 1: It definitely was. She inspired me. She is the inspiration
1:55:14
Speaker 1: of my whole existence as a spinner. She was such
1:55:18
Speaker 1: an elegant and beautiful woman and tall, and the way
1:55:21
Speaker 1: she wore clothes was so beautifully. So when she made something,
1:55:25
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it was themed events, so
1:55:28
Speaker 1: there would be a red ball for everyone. All the
1:55:30
Speaker 1: women were red, black and white. Everybody would wear black
1:55:35
Speaker 1: and white. So she would make her her fashion special.
1:55:39
Speaker 1: Her dresses were special. And so she sat there and
1:55:42
Speaker 1: was so then with the elderly lady from across the
1:55:45
Speaker 1: street and they would saw on the saw machine and
1:55:47
Speaker 1: sow the balls pattern. So I was inspired by her
1:55:50
Speaker 1: for having the style and grace. Um, my mom reminded
1:55:55
Speaker 1: you of Elena Horn or Nancy Wilson. You had to
1:55:59
Speaker 1: think of who she looks like. Just class, just class,
1:56:03
Speaker 1: just class. Yeah, so I kept that class in my
1:56:06
Speaker 1: design for forever. You know. That's kind of what I
1:56:10
Speaker 1: worked from, where when you buy something for me, it's
1:56:13
Speaker 1: last for years and you can wear it for years
1:56:15
Speaker 1: due to the classickness of the style. That's what I love.
1:56:20
Speaker 1: That's what I love about you because the fact that
1:56:22
Speaker 1: you she she's she's saying a keyword. And the people
1:56:25
Speaker 1: always say, I always tell you pay for excellence, and
1:56:28
Speaker 1: you are still pay for longevity. And a lot of
1:56:30
Speaker 1: people can playing when you go, well, you know, Taylor suits,
1:56:33
Speaker 1: Taylor Church. That's kind of expensive, not really considering that,
1:56:38
Speaker 1: you know, you're probably gonna even type of shoes that
1:56:40
Speaker 1: you wear. You might go through a lot of shoes
1:56:43
Speaker 1: or shoes might be hurting your feet. Because I'm a
1:56:45
Speaker 1: testament to the fact that if I would have been
1:56:47
Speaker 1: wearing the shoes that I wore, I wear that versus
1:56:50
Speaker 1: college because I ordered I will. You know, I ain't
1:56:53
Speaker 1: gonna bad mof no names, but it was some names
1:56:55
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have had on my feet. And I'm paying
1:56:57
Speaker 1: a price for it right now. Everybody, you understand what
1:57:01
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Angela, you know what I'm saying right there.
1:57:03
Speaker 1: And so people come up with you as you pay
1:57:06
Speaker 1: for what you get. My toes are like if they
1:57:07
Speaker 1: could talk, they go do what I told you. I
1:57:10
Speaker 1: told you about that. And so when I look at
1:57:12
Speaker 1: your fashion, your history, and I wanted to let people
1:57:16
Speaker 1: understand your journey, Angela, how you becolled because a lot
1:57:19
Speaker 1: of people think that we always see in Hollywood, we
1:57:21
Speaker 1: see the end results, we always see the magic, but
1:57:25
Speaker 1: they don't really hear the journey. And I wanted I
1:57:27
Speaker 1: wanted to just share some moments of your journey before
1:57:30
Speaker 1: we really get into the fact of your greatness. Your
1:57:33
Speaker 1: greatness is people walking in the room, famous people or
1:57:37
Speaker 1: famous executives, are noteworthy people in life, going I want
1:57:41
Speaker 1: you to make that for me, and I'm gonna trust
1:57:43
Speaker 1: that you're gonna make it because I'm gonna I'm going
1:57:45
Speaker 1: to put it on the one of the largest stages
1:57:47
Speaker 1: in the world. They made that first moment for us
1:57:50
Speaker 1: when you when they dawned on you, they wow. Well,
1:57:54
Speaker 1: after I came out of high school, I then um
1:57:58
Speaker 1: when it's to college and went to school for fashion design.
1:58:03
Speaker 1: Came out about three or four years later and went
1:58:06
Speaker 1: into the fashion industry downtown Los Angeles. But um, I
1:58:10
Speaker 1: wasn't really inspired by what I was doing because I
1:58:13
Speaker 1: was they had the copy and T shirts and um
1:58:17
Speaker 1: doing things that I felt weren't in the integrity of creating,
1:58:21
Speaker 1: creating and being the designers more so, like copying things.
1:58:25
Speaker 1: I didn't think that's what I signed up for. So
1:58:28
Speaker 1: I looked for the first uh, first placed the way
1:58:33
Speaker 1: to get to Hollywood, Like, how do I get to
1:58:35
Speaker 1: Hollywood to do something creative? And you know, the movies
1:58:39
Speaker 1: and TV and music gave me that freedom. So I
1:58:44
Speaker 1: actually got to store out milrows in two for about
1:58:48
Speaker 1: three years, and uh, I had my own story. Was
1:58:52
Speaker 1: a challenge because they end up robbing me in. I
1:58:55
Speaker 1: had to leave because I couldn't afford to stay after
1:58:57
Speaker 1: they had taken everything. Um, but it was really your
1:59:01
Speaker 1: challenge because the first black designer, I believe on mel Roads,
1:59:06
Speaker 1: world famous mel Roads. It was for years, I know
1:59:11
Speaker 1: about the world famous Mayor Roads. Okay, yeah, so you
1:59:14
Speaker 1: know it was a little a little wild out there,
1:59:17
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. I know. I moved so I know us
1:59:21
Speaker 1: a little out of my curve. So you was doing
1:59:23
Speaker 1: some stuff way beyond. Yeah, it was, it was. It
1:59:27
Speaker 1: was really an amazing journey. But at the same time,
1:59:31
Speaker 1: you know, I learned a lot, and so sometimes you
1:59:33
Speaker 1: have to say all the things about who you are,
1:59:37
Speaker 1: and the fact that on the store and that type
1:59:40
Speaker 1: of thing wasn't the best thing to talk about. Learn
1:59:42
Speaker 1: how to get a little quiet and not say so much.
1:59:45
Speaker 1: So in many years I really didn't give the information
1:59:51
Speaker 1: that was black. I had a name, it was a
1:59:54
Speaker 1: Dean tign which was my company name, and wrote off
1:59:57
Speaker 1: of that and did a lot of celebrities and as
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Speaker 1: people from that point on, after I closed my store
2:00:03
Speaker 1: UM and kind of went to more customs of creating
2:00:08
Speaker 1: for the music and entertainment business, for celebrities, doing this
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Speaker 1: album covers UM magazine, covers stage performances, UM, you know,
2:00:18
Speaker 1: red carpets, those types of things with my specialty. So
2:00:21
Speaker 1: I created my own lane as a celebrity designer. Most
2:00:24
Speaker 1: people weren't using that term. Now everyone is this is something,
2:00:28
Speaker 1: this is something branding and all those things. I'm talking
2:00:31
Speaker 1: to Angela Dean Um. She's an amazing person. From Madonna
2:00:35
Speaker 1: to Katie Perry, to Oprah Winfrey to Halleyberry. Her creations
2:00:38
Speaker 1: have a don magazine covers concert stages and Oscar and
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Speaker 1: Grammy Red Carpets. She's also the creator when We come Back,
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Speaker 1: Shaped by an Angel Bodywear, revolutionary shapewear line that transformed
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Speaker 1: women's bodies. I could probably use something transform my body,
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Speaker 1: Angel And so you know, you might want to get
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Speaker 1: hip out brother name Roshan McDonald. But we're right back
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Speaker 1: with more money making conversations speaking to Angela Dean. Hi,
2:01:02
Speaker 1: this Rashan McDonald's doing money making conversation. This is my thing,
2:01:05
Speaker 1: you know. And I sat down with some friends of
2:01:08
Speaker 1: mine and some producers who believed in me, and said, hey,
2:01:11
Speaker 1: I want to do a show about entrepreneurship or show
2:01:13
Speaker 1: about entertainment, to see if I can mixture two talk
2:01:16
Speaker 1: about branding and marketing and see if I can make
2:01:18
Speaker 1: it interesting enough that people will want to listen to
2:01:21
Speaker 1: it and more important to get information from the show
2:01:23
Speaker 1: that could make their lives transformative. And that's what I'm doing,
2:01:27
Speaker 1: and that's what I do. Every week I bring a
2:01:29
Speaker 1: guest on my show, and the guests I have on
2:01:31
Speaker 1: my show to day is very unique talent. Angela Dean,
2:01:36
Speaker 1: You know when you when you're talking about things that
2:01:38
Speaker 1: you said, what had she done? Did she acually done
2:01:40
Speaker 1: anything in my lifetime? And I remember, Uh, she's worked
2:01:45
Speaker 1: with people like Madonna that bullet burst, yea, but who
2:01:49
Speaker 1: can't forget that that was an amazing thing. Uh. She
2:01:54
Speaker 1: worked with Essence Magazine did the iconic thirty year anniversary
2:01:58
Speaker 1: edition which had at queenly he For on the cover,
2:02:01
Speaker 1: halle Berry on the cover, Jada Pinket Smith on the cover,
2:02:05
Speaker 1: Fox on the cover, Loretta, Divine, Regina King, at least Neil,
2:02:10
Speaker 1: and Michael Michelle. Now you did the fashion for all
2:02:14
Speaker 1: of them, Angela, Yes, I did. I was commissioned to
2:02:19
Speaker 1: do all those ladies. Okay, let me let me the
2:02:22
Speaker 1: radle off those names again, because he's each one has
2:02:25
Speaker 1: a distinct personality. Queen La, halle Berry, Jada Pinkett Smith,
2:02:31
Speaker 1: Viverca A, Fox, Loretta, Divine, Regina King, at least Neil,
2:02:37
Speaker 1: and Michael Michelle Essence Covert Anniversary. Yeah, wow, Yeah, congratulations,
2:02:49
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I gotta say that because you know,
2:02:53
Speaker 1: I know what the talent was then, and then you
2:02:55
Speaker 1: watch the growth of that talent is even you're looking
2:02:58
Speaker 1: back more, you go, how great that car? For years?
2:03:00
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying. You go okay, you said, oh,
2:03:06
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this cover, and then you go
2:03:08
Speaker 1: okay to cover. Now, when that was it was great,
2:03:12
Speaker 1: But now you know that's that's a that's an original
2:03:14
Speaker 1: color you cover. You know you get money for it.
2:03:16
Speaker 1: Right now, I met you want to buy that for
2:03:19
Speaker 1: that's a color? You feel me, you go and then
2:03:22
Speaker 1: you start and you know, I always always look back
2:03:24
Speaker 1: at my life, Angela. I always think, you know, I
2:03:27
Speaker 1: made a lot of famous people. I've sat down with
2:03:29
Speaker 1: a lot of famous people, and I and and I
2:03:32
Speaker 1: just sometimes I just did a job and then I
2:03:34
Speaker 1: look back in my life and go, I wish how
2:03:36
Speaker 1: to spend a little bit more time with that person?
2:03:39
Speaker 1: Are I wish how to delving into more conversation with it?
2:03:43
Speaker 1: Does that ever? Do you ever think like that when
2:03:45
Speaker 1: you think about your life and the work you've done,
2:03:49
Speaker 1: sitting down with openings openers of the world and all
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Speaker 1: these iconic people, the Madonnas of the world and hallet
2:03:55
Speaker 1: Barriers of the world, are Queen Latifas of the world.
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Speaker 1: Is it like any question, know, any conversation you wish
2:04:01
Speaker 1: you would have had with these people along the way?
2:04:03
Speaker 1: Or just like wish I was just doing a job. No,
2:04:07
Speaker 1: I really took enough. I took advantage of those opportunities.
2:04:11
Speaker 1: I knew that they were special moments in time, and
2:04:16
Speaker 1: I really embraced them. I have so many amazing UM
2:04:21
Speaker 1: relationships with my celebrity clients that a lot of special
2:04:26
Speaker 1: highs and low moments. You know, there's entertainment businesses can
2:04:30
Speaker 1: be very challenging. So I've had great, um, great relationships
2:04:36
Speaker 1: with my celebrity clients. Um, the late Nancy Wilson was
2:04:40
Speaker 1: like a mom to me, and we would sit lay
2:04:43
Speaker 1: out in the bed after her shows that the built
2:04:46
Speaker 1: more hotel, red eyed and cool, and just lay and
2:04:49
Speaker 1: talked about different things of life. They let me really
2:04:52
Speaker 1: have a personal place. If you ever have a chance
2:04:55
Speaker 1: to get into that space with them, they have a
2:04:59
Speaker 1: lot to share and I had a lot to share
2:05:02
Speaker 1: as well. For those intimate moments. I'll never forget what
2:05:05
Speaker 1: many of them. So I did try to take some
2:05:08
Speaker 1: moments if I could, because I had a lot of
2:05:10
Speaker 1: private moments with them. Right. It's really important because I
2:05:14
Speaker 1: think that the reasons I bring that up because a
2:05:16
Speaker 1: lot of times we just especially in today's society, with
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Speaker 1: A lot of people will just text or they can
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Speaker 1: that a lot. Angela. People text me and I just
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Speaker 1: I just picked a phone call and say hey, you
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Speaker 1: what's what's up? What's what's happened? That's right? Connect and
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Speaker 1: because of that technology, because you know, you you come
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Speaker 1: allow you to work through the process. Now you have technology.
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Speaker 1: First it was facts and now and then it was email.
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Speaker 1: Now they just take a photo of something that's sent
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Speaker 1: it to you. So so interesting. So so how does
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Speaker 1: that affect How has that affected you creatively over the years?
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Speaker 1: You know, interestingly enough, the technology has helped me tremendously
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Speaker 1: because I can go with my phone now and shop
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Speaker 1: with my clients in real time. You know, UM actually
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Speaker 1: showed them the Fabrican real time to make a choice
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Speaker 1: in real time. My sketches arem able to do and
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Speaker 1: really has assisted me, I think, in the process of
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Speaker 1: process is going to be going forward with the order.
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Speaker 1: So I think technology has been a tremendous asset in
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Speaker 1: the area of communicating and design for sure with me
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Speaker 1: and my clients. And I think that that's what we're
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Speaker 1: moving more into now today. I think that's what this
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Speaker 1: is about, bringing us more online, more online. It can
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Speaker 1: be a bad thing, but when we can take advantage
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Speaker 1: of the things that we have access to today with technology,
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Speaker 1: it is to our advantage, especially in the process of creating.
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Speaker 1: We were speaking about technology. Just move on to your
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Speaker 1: revolutionary shape by the Angel body Wear. I got it
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Speaker 1: up in front of me, so I got photos. I
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Speaker 1: got all kind of pictures in front of me. So
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Speaker 1: walk me through the steps of saying okay with Sean.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've designed all these clothes for different celebrities
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Speaker 1: and everyday people. How did you get into the body
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Speaker 1: whear industry. Well, I've always been known for different various
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Speaker 1: body types of being able to create amazing things no
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Speaker 1: matter what size or how ice or shape you are.
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Speaker 1: That's been my forte and so um the shape or
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Speaker 1: market had has been something that I've you know, dove
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Speaker 1: into because I was worked for a laundry company some
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Speaker 1: years ago after closing my store where I designed the
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Speaker 1: bullet braw courset for Madonna, and I started using a
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Speaker 1: lot of the my course, it's underneath the gowns and things.
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Speaker 1: So it became something that I was a go to
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Speaker 1: for that building. It underneath the gowns for ost gowns
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Speaker 1: and things like that, and those in the closed got
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Speaker 1: the more we had these different fabrics and go in
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Speaker 1: the stretching, and so I just continued to work and
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Speaker 1: develop it. It really felt that it was important that
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Speaker 1: I created a shape line that was for all body types.
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Speaker 1: All of all bodies are not the same, all women
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Speaker 1: are not the same shape, and so the shapers are
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Speaker 1: designed according to the five most common bite types which
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Speaker 1: accentuate the airs of those body types and enhanced and
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Speaker 1: you know, take away and realign the shapes um with
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Speaker 1: the panels. So it's something that I'm very proud of
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Speaker 1: and it's very unique and different and it's amazing. It
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Speaker 1: transforms bodies every day. One of my let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this about there, let me just about your body
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Speaker 1: where because I watched TV. I have six sisters, so
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Speaker 1: you know they were four of them are older than
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Speaker 1: me and so so I'm always you know, I've seen
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Speaker 1: what when you say transformative or revolutionary, what what is
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Speaker 1: your clothes doing to a woman's body, Because you say
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Speaker 1: bodies of all styles, of all shapes, Well, what were
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Speaker 1: they pushing the tightening the weightline or pushing the the shaper. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the shaper has panels in it in the inside of
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Speaker 1: it that's reshaping and doing different very things to areas
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Speaker 1: of the body that need assistance. So, for instance, your weight,
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Speaker 1: you want to waste to be smaller, there's a pan
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Speaker 1: to accentuate the waste. There's an area that is a
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Speaker 1: panel for the abdomen, so a lot of women foot
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Speaker 1: you out a little bit and has a tendency to
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Speaker 1: pull you in. It has a panel underneath your buttock area,
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Speaker 1: lift your butt um. There's a panel across the back
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Speaker 1: of your waist that accentuates you waste more so it's
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Speaker 1: giving the body more accentuating areas through the panels. They're
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Speaker 1: assisting in reshaping the body. Then the fabric is amazing
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Speaker 1: too because it's supposed surgical compression fabric that has empty
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Speaker 1: microbial fibers to keep you cooling fresh um compression and real,
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Speaker 1: real scientific owners right there. You know you need to
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Speaker 1: stop to break it down. Fact that a breeze and
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Speaker 1: there's a you know, compression. I've heard that we're compression comfortable.
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Speaker 1: So so so a young lady comes in because you
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Speaker 1: know you're you're your line is for all age groups, correct, Okay? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so the accommodate gover women. Okay, cool, So we can
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Speaker 1: go online and buy your your body with correct tell
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Speaker 1: us how we can do that first, before I asked
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Speaker 1: my next series of questions. Um, the brand is shaped
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Speaker 1: by an angel s h A p E D by
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Speaker 1: B y m A n angel a n g e
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Speaker 1: um social media platforms at shaped by an angel as well. Okay, cool.
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Speaker 1: So I'm a person, you know, you know, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to get my waist. I'm trying to just make a waste,
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Speaker 1: you know, I just want to show it off, you
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Speaker 1: know a little bit, and just trying to get my
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Speaker 1: just trying to go out there and you know, just
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Speaker 1: trying to look good. So how would I how would
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Speaker 1: I be introduced to your website as a as a
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Speaker 1: as a as a woman, you know, trying to get
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Speaker 1: what what? Why? Why would I go to your website?
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Speaker 1: I guess I should ask that question at you. Well,
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Speaker 1: you go into my website for what for? I think
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Speaker 1: that you're probably looking for something UM in the area
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Speaker 1: of shape where that could assist you with UM making
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Speaker 1: your body field user or UM shrinking your body maybe
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Speaker 1: a couple of sizes through the shape where. But women
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Speaker 1: are just really UM embraced shape where because it reshapes
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Speaker 1: them and makes them feel comfortable and smoothed out the body.
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Speaker 1: So it's usually a desire to your look for. Women
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Speaker 1: are constantly looking for shapewear or better shapewear UM various brands,
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Speaker 1: so it's something that women have been wearing since the
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Speaker 1: many decades UM. So mine is very modernized and revolutionized
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Speaker 1: by the fabric, so there's a lot of great property
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Speaker 1: so UM. I think that it would be all in
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Speaker 1: terms of even maybe looking for a great shape or
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Speaker 1: shaper at one time or another. And you may some
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Speaker 1: blow mind my website or my social media handler. That's
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Speaker 1: really cool. So how how involved were you in this
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Speaker 1: whole process? Because I know I involved, you're on your
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Speaker 1: your fashion designs and because you've done so much, but
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Speaker 1: now that you're going to everyday people, so which means
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Speaker 1: it's more a mass, a mass relationship. So you're trying
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Speaker 1: to you're trying now to meet a lot of people
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Speaker 1: needs and with a fashion So how did that did
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Speaker 1: that play anywhere? Did that play anywhere into your mindset
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Speaker 1: about how can I you know, because you know, to
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Speaker 1: make eight famous people on the cover or eight to
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Speaker 1: tempt famous or Oprah or Madonna. You're you're talking on
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Speaker 1: one on one now you're sitting in the room with
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Speaker 1: some individuals. You have this great idea. You you're touching fashion.
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Speaker 1: You should. I wanted to appeal to everyone. What does
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Speaker 1: that exactly? Does that statement mean? What does the statement
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Speaker 1: made when I say appeal to everyone? What what does
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Speaker 1: that statement mean to you when I say that? Well,
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Speaker 1: that means everything to me because that's what my st
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Speaker 1: pay and Go is to help women to trans transform
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Speaker 1: and uplifts and feel better about their bodies, about their fashion.
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Speaker 1: I want to give women um clothes that work best
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Speaker 1: for their body types. I think women um need to
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Speaker 1: have better choices pretty to body types. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I want to do, UM and give them options that
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Speaker 1: really work for their lifestyles and keep them comfortable and
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Speaker 1: fashionable being shaped up. You know what. You know what
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Speaker 1: I like when I hear you keep saying the word
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Speaker 1: body type, which I think is really could to hear
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Speaker 1: because a lot of people sell stuff and they just
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Speaker 1: tell you they're just trying to squeeze you into a
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Speaker 1: look and yourself. You know, I'm just I grew up.
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm my old school guy. I grew up my
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Speaker 1: mom with keyboard girdles, you know, and and and and
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Speaker 1: so and so that was just and she was just
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Speaker 1: squeeze in there. It wasn't do her body type. It
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Speaker 1: was just she she was just just just trying to
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Speaker 1: reshape some stuff so she can put on that dress.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So and so that's what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I because you're saying that a lot,
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Speaker 1: which is really great, which means that the customer comes first,
2:15:05
Speaker 1: which means that you're trying to style it, stylizes to
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Speaker 1: their comfort zone and I'm not saying every time my
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Speaker 1: mom walked out that dough, but I don't think you
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Speaker 1: walked out that dough comfortable. I really don't know. I
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Speaker 1: think you just walked out that that they're trying to
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Speaker 1: hold up to hold to get through the day for
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Speaker 1: being squipper. But well, the thing is, that's what's great
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Speaker 1: and why my shapers are identified as revolutionary right, um,
2:15:33
Speaker 1: because the fabric is where all of the magic is.
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Speaker 1: Today we have, like I said before earlier, Um, a
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Speaker 1: lot of times the fabrics weren't conducive to what I
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Speaker 1: needed as close change and got dinner and more, you know,
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Speaker 1: closer to your body. You couldn't use all the boning
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Speaker 1: and all the stiff things that of course it would take.
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Speaker 1: So you needed more comfortable fabrics. And so that post
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Speaker 1: surgical fabric became a go to from me to create
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Speaker 1: the shaper so that it wouldn't feel like you're saying
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Speaker 1: your mom would feel it makes struggle to get it on.
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Speaker 1: When you get it on, there's a comfortability to it
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Speaker 1: that just moves with your body and flows and has
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Speaker 1: a has a great feeling of security and and pulling
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Speaker 1: in and compression. But it's in a comfortable way, and
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Speaker 1: so that way you can get the book. You know
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Speaker 1: the benefits of both worlds. That get the fit and
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Speaker 1: then I get the comfort as well, the transformation and
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Speaker 1: the comfort, and that is why we call it revolutionary. Well,
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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. It's exciting to talk to
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Speaker 1: you about. You know what, men that have six sisters
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Speaker 1: happy every time she walked out that door, but she
2:16:46
Speaker 1: walked out that door. That's all she had to work with. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then for you to come on my show and
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Speaker 1: talk about shape Bine Angel Bodywear, revolutionary shapewear line that
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