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Spiritual Acupuncture, the 5 Elements, and Healing the Mind-Body-Soul (Banya Lim) · The Living Conversation

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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright
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  and
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  I'm
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  your
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  host
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  today,
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  co
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  host
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  with
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  Adam
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  Dietz.
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  Welcome
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  everyone.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  on
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  a
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  living
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  conversation
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  and
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  our
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  guest
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  today
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  is
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  Banya
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  Lim.
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  Welcome
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  Banya.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  Anthony.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Yes.
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  And
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  you
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  are
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  a
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  spiritual
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  acupuncturist
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  and
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  energy
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  coach.
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  And
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  how
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  did
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  you
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  come
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  to
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  being
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  an
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  energy
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  coach
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  and
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  tell
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  us
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  what
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  it
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  is
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  that
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  you
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  do.
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  I
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  think
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  energy
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  coach
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  part
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  thing
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  has
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  been
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  around,
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  around
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  us
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  and
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  with
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  us
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  for
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  many,
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  many
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  years.
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  I'm
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  just
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  describing
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  it
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  that
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  way
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  so
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  people
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  can
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  kind
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  of
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  understand.
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  I
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  came
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  from
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  a
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  healer
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  family.
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  My
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  mom
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  was
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  an
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  acupuncturist
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  and
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  energy
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  healer
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  and
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  intuitive
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  guidance.
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  And
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  she
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  always
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  talked
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  about
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  bringing
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  back
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  the
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  ancient
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  wisdom,
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  ancient
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  way
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  of
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  doing
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  oriental
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  medicine.
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  She
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  felt
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  that
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  that's
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  energetical
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  and
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  a
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  spiritual
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  part
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  has
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  been
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  lost
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  in
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  many
• 1:08
  of
• 1:08
  the
• 1:08
  schools
• 1:09
  and
• 1:09
  many
• 1:09
  of
• 1:10
  the
• 1:10
  practices
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  that
• 1:10
  people
• 1:11
  do.
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  And
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  we
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  are,
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  when
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  we
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  do
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  healing
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  on
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  people,
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  yes,
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  we
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  are
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  actually
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  using
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  needles
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  to
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  stick
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  into
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  the
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  body.
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  Focuses
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  achieve.
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  Right.
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  But
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  we're
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  working
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  on
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  an
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  energetical
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  part
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  and
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  a
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  spiritual
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  aspect
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  of
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  the
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  person.
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  So
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  we
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  are
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  dealing
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  with
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  the
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  body,
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  mind
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  and
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  soul,
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  not
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  just
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  the
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  physical
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  aspect.
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  But
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  she
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  felt
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  that,
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  that
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  we
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  ended
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  up
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  just
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  focusing
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  just
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  the
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  physical
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  part,
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  which
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  is
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  okay
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  because
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  people
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  deal
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  with
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  dealing
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  with
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  things
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  on
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  a
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  physical
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  level.
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  But
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  we
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  are
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  not
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  when
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  we
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  don't
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  look
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  at
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  it,
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  look
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  at
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  the
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  person
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  that
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  way
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  and
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  you
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  don't
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  do
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  the
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  healing
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  on
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  all
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  three
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  level,
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  you
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  are
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  not
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  really
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  truly
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  doing
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  a
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  healing
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  on
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  a
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  deeper,
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  deeper
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  aspect
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  of
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  the
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  person.
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  So
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  when
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  I
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  start
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  practicing,
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  I
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  decided
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  to
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  call
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  my
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  acupuncture,
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  spiritual
• 2:01
  acupuncture.
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  And
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  over
• 2:03
  the
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  years
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  I
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  realized
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  not
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  just
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  the
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  physical
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  part
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  that
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  we
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  have
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  to
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  focus
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  on,
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  but
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  we
• 2:08
  have
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  to
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  focus
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  on
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  the
• 2:09
  emotional
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  and
• 2:10
  energetic
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  part
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  of
• 2:11
  the.
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  What's,
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  what's
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  going
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  on.
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  Because
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  I
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  really,
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  I
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  found
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  out
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  that
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  times
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  people
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  get
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  better
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  on
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  a
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  physical
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  level,
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  but
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  they
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  coming
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  back
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  with
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  the
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  same
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  symptom
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  over
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  and
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  over.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  realized
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  that
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  it
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  was
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  the
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  reason
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  was
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  because
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  they're
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  going
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  back
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  the
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  same
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  lifestyle,
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  same
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  relationships,
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  same
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  environment
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  and
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  same
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  mindset.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  start
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  sharing
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  with
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  the
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  people.
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  This
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  was
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  baby
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  acupuncturist,
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  you
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  know,
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  30
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  some
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  years
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  ago.
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  And
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  I
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  just
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  share
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  with
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  what
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  I
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  know
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  so
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  the
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  connection
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  between
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  the
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  mind,
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  body
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  and
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  soul
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  and
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  I'll
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  just
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  share
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  it
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  with
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  the
• 2:51
  clients
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  especially
• 2:52
  let's
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  say
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  lower
• 2:53
  back
• 2:53
  pain,
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  especially
• 2:54
  back.
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  Right.
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  Has
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  a
• 2:56
  connection
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  to
• 2:57
  fear
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  in
• 2:58
  oriental
• 2:59
  medicine.
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  So
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  I
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  just
• 3:01
  simply
• 3:01
  share
• 3:01
  this
• 3:02
  information
• 3:02
  with
• 3:02
  my
• 3:03
  Clients.
• 3:03
  But
• 3:03
  they
• 3:04
  are
• 3:04
  the
• 3:04
  one
• 3:04
  who'd
• 3:04
  come
• 3:05
  back
• 3:05
  with
• 3:05
  the
• 3:05
  telling
• 3:05
  me,
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  you
• 3:06
  know
• 3:06
  the.
• 3:07
  My
• 3:07
  back
• 3:07
  pain
• 3:08
  really
• 3:08
  started
• 3:09
  when
• 3:09
  I
• 3:10
  start
• 3:10
  to
• 3:10
  really
• 3:11
  worry
• 3:11
  and
• 3:11
  had
• 3:12
  fear
• 3:12
  about
• 3:12
  losing
• 3:13
  my
• 3:13
  marriage.
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  Okay.
• 3:14
  But
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  that
• 3:15
  was
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  day.
• 3:16
  And
• 3:16
  the
• 3:17
  lungs
• 3:18
  has
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  connection
• 3:19
  to
• 3:19
  sadness.
• 3:20
  So
• 3:20
  this
• 3:20
  is
• 3:20
  why
• 3:21
  when
• 3:21
  you
• 3:22
  are
• 3:22
  grieving
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  get
• 3:24
  sick
• 3:24
  easily
• 3:24
  or
• 3:25
  you
• 3:25
  catch
• 3:25
  cold
• 3:26
  easily.
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  That
• 3:26
  was.
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  That
• 3:27
  might
• 3:27
  be
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  reason.
• 3:28
  Then
• 3:28
  I
• 3:28
  might
• 3:28
  be
• 3:29
  sharing
• 3:29
  this
• 3:29
  information
• 3:30
  with
• 3:30
  my
• 3:30
  client.
• 3:32
  There's
• 3:32
  direct
• 3:33
  correlation
• 3:34
  between
• 3:34
  the
• 3:35
  lungs
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  sorrow
• 3:36
  and
• 3:37
  sadness.
• 3:37
  And
• 3:38
  then
• 3:38
  my
• 3:38
  clients
• 3:38
  will
• 3:39
  just
• 3:39
  share
• 3:39
  with
• 3:39
  me
• 3:40
  their.
• 3:40
  With
• 3:40
  their
• 3:41
  stories
• 3:42
  is
• 3:42
  you
• 3:42
  know,
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  started
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  suffer
• 3:45
  from
• 3:46
  this
• 3:46
  issue
• 3:47
  when
• 3:47
  my
• 3:48
  son
• 3:48
  passed
• 3:48
  away
• 3:49
  or
• 3:49
  something
• 3:49
  like
• 3:49
  that.
• 3:51
  That
• 3:51
  was
• 3:52
  many
• 3:52
  years
• 3:52
  ago.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  started
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  put
• 3:53
  two
• 3:54
  and
• 3:54
  two
• 3:54
  together.
• 3:55
  And
• 3:55
  through
• 3:55
  my.
• 3:56
  My
• 3:56
  own
• 3:56
  journey
• 3:57
  of
• 3:57
  my
• 3:57
  own
• 3:58
  health
• 3:58
  issue.
• 4:00
  Unless
• 4:00
  we
• 4:01
  delve
• 4:01
  into
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  wholeness
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  person,
• 4:06
  you're
• 4:07
  not
• 4:07
  really
• 4:07
  truly
• 4:08
  doing
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  complete
• 4:09
  healing.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  this
• 4:11
  evolving
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  me
• 4:12
  becoming
• 4:13
  an
• 4:13
  energy
• 4:13
  coach.
• 4:15
  Okay,
• 4:16
  so
• 4:16
  are
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  talking
• 4:16
  about
• 4:17
  what
• 4:18
  we
• 4:18
  mean
• 4:18
  by
• 4:18
  shing
• 4:20
  or
• 4:21
  heart
• 4:21
  mind?
• 4:24
  Our
• 4:24
  mentor,
• 4:25
  Dr.
• 4:25
  Wu
• 4:25
  said
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  problem
• 4:26
  with
• 4:26
  people
• 4:26
  in
• 4:26
  the
• 4:27
  west
• 4:27
  is
• 4:27
  you're
• 4:27
  thinking
• 4:28
  with
• 4:28
  your.
• 4:29
  With
• 4:29
  your
• 4:29
  brain
• 4:30
  and
• 4:30
  not
• 4:30
  your
• 4:30
  mind.
• 4:31
  Yes.
• 4:31
  In
• 4:32
  China
• 4:32
  session
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  Korean
• 4:34
  recession.
• 4:34
  Yes.
• 4:35
  Yeah.
• 4:36
  And
• 4:38
  so
• 4:40
  how
• 4:40
  do
• 4:40
  you
• 4:40
  approach
• 4:41
  then?
• 4:42
  Are
• 4:42
  you
• 4:42
  able
• 4:42
  to
• 4:42
  intuit
• 4:44
  or
• 4:44
  have
• 4:44
  a.
• 4:46
  An
• 4:46
  internal
• 4:47
  body
• 4:47
  response
• 4:48
  to
• 4:48
  know
• 4:48
  what's
• 4:49
  happening
• 4:49
  with
• 4:49
  your
• 4:49
  clients?
• 4:50
  So
• 4:51
  what
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  find
• 4:51
  that
• 4:51
  over
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  years
• 4:52
  is
• 4:52
  that
• 4:54
  body
• 4:54
  holds.
• 4:55
  We
• 4:55
  consider
• 4:56
  as
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  problem
• 4:57
  especially
• 4:57
  when
• 4:57
  we
• 4:58
  have
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  pain
• 4:58
  or
• 4:59
  ailments.
• 5:00
  But
• 5:00
  also
• 5:01
  body
• 5:01
  also
• 5:02
  holds.
• 5:02
  The
• 5:02
  answer
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  solution.
• 5:04
  Right.
• 5:06
  In
• 5:06
  all
• 5:06
  those
• 5:07
  areas
• 5:08
  has
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  direct
• 5:08
  connection
• 5:09
  to
• 5:10
  emotions.
• 5:12
  Earlier
• 5:12
  I
• 5:13
  mentioned
• 5:14
  kidneys
• 5:15
  and
• 5:15
  bladder
• 5:16
  emotion
• 5:17
  is
• 5:17
  fear.
• 5:18
  And
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  meridians
• 5:19
  energy.
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  don't
• 5:20
  know
• 5:20
  if
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  ever
• 5:20
  seen
• 5:21
  an
• 5:21
  acupuncture
• 5:22
  meridian.
• 5:22
  Oh
• 5:22
  yeah.
• 5:23
  Is
• 5:23
  running
• 5:23
  around.
• 5:24
  So
• 5:24
  the
• 5:25
  back.
• 5:25
  The
• 5:26
  next
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  the
• 5:27
  spine.
• 5:27
  There's
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  two
• 5:27
  line
• 5:28
  going
• 5:28
  straight
• 5:28
  down
• 5:29
  at
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  connection
• 5:30
  kidneys
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  bladder.
• 5:31
  And
• 5:31
  it's
• 5:31
  the
• 5:32
  emotion
• 5:33
  that
• 5:34
  governs
• 5:35
  is
• 5:35
  fear.
• 5:36
  As
• 5:36
  I
• 5:37
  say,
• 5:38
  even
• 5:38
  in.
• 5:39
  You
• 5:39
  know
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  lot
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  things
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  we
• 5:41
  unconsciously
• 5:42
  say
• 5:43
  has
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  connection
• 5:44
  to
• 5:44
  what
• 5:44
  we
• 5:45
  are
• 5:45
  feeling
• 5:45
  on
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  body.
• 5:47
  A
• 5:47
  lot
• 5:47
  of
• 5:47
  things
• 5:48
  we
• 5:48
  say
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  phrases
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  don't
• 5:49
  feel
• 5:50
  like
• 5:50
  they
• 5:50
  come
• 5:50
  out
• 5:50
  by
• 5:51
  accident.
• 5:52
  You
• 5:52
  know
• 5:52
  know
• 5:52
  when
• 5:52
  we
• 5:52
  say
• 5:52
  when
• 5:53
  fear
• 5:54
  we
• 5:54
  say
• 5:55
  we
• 5:55
  feel
• 5:55
  going
• 5:56
  down
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  spine.
• 5:57
  Right.
• 5:58
  And
• 5:59
  those
• 5:59
  things.
• 5:59
  Why
• 6:00
  would
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  say
• 6:00
  that?
• 6:01
  Because
• 6:01
  we
• 6:01
  feel
• 6:02
  it
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  fear
• 6:04
  literally
• 6:05
  feel
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  energy.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  on
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  meridian
• 6:07
  level,
• 6:08
  on
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  energy
• 6:09
  channel.
• 6:09
  Channel
• 6:10
  level.
• 6:10
  On
• 6:10
  acupuncture
• 6:11
  perspective,
• 6:12
  you're
• 6:12
  literally
• 6:12
  creating
• 6:13
  blockages
• 6:13
  on
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  back
• 6:14
  side.
• 6:15
  Right?
• 6:16
  Right.
• 6:16
  It
• 6:17
  goes
• 6:17
  long
• 6:17
  enough
• 6:18
  and
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  can
• 6:19
  keep
• 6:19
  repeatedly
• 6:19
  having
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  experience
• 6:21
  on.
• 6:21
  It
• 6:22
  manifests
• 6:22
  on
• 6:22
  a
• 6:23
  Physical
• 6:23
  level
• 6:23
  like
• 6:24
  aches
• 6:24
  and
• 6:24
  pain
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  back
• 6:25
  pain.
• 6:27
  Yeah.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  basis
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  your
• 6:29
  training
• 6:30
  is
• 6:30
  Korean,
• 6:31
  is
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  correct?
• 6:32
  The
• 6:33
  school
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  went
• 6:33
  to,
• 6:34
  tcm,
• 6:35
  Traditional
• 6:35
  Chinese
• 6:36
  medicine.
• 6:36
  Later
• 6:37
  I
• 6:38
  studied
• 6:38
  also
• 6:39
  Japanese,
• 6:39
  but
• 6:40
  my
• 6:40
  family
• 6:40
  background
• 6:41
  is
• 6:41
  Korean.
• 6:42
  My
• 6:42
  mom
• 6:42
  is
• 6:42
  from
• 6:43
  Korea,
• 6:43
  so
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  studied
• 6:44
  all
• 6:44
  three
• 6:45
  Chinese,
• 6:45
  Korean,
• 6:46
  Japanese.
• 6:47
  Because
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  remember
• 6:49
  particularly
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  appreciate.
• 6:50
  I've
• 6:50
  studied
• 6:51
  Yi
• 6:51
  Ching
• 6:51
  for
• 6:51
  many,
• 6:52
  many
• 6:52
  years.
• 6:53
  And
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  very
• 6:53
  much
• 6:53
  appreciate
• 6:55
  how
• 6:56
  important
• 6:57
  Kongzu
• 6:58
  or
• 6:58
  Confucius
• 6:59
  is
• 7:00
  in.
• 7:01
  In
• 7:01
  Korea.
• 7:02
  Do
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  have
• 7:03
  some
• 7:03
  thoughts,
• 7:03
  Adam?
• 7:04
  Yeah,
• 7:05
  very,
• 7:05
  very
• 7:05
  interesting
• 7:06
  on
• 7:07
  so
• 7:07
  many
• 7:07
  levels.
• 7:07
  Of
• 7:08
  course.
• 7:08
  And
• 7:09
  one
• 7:09
  thing
• 7:09
  that's
• 7:10
  first
• 7:10
  I'm
• 7:10
  starting
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  process
• 7:11
  is
• 7:14
  let
• 7:14
  me
• 7:14
  just
• 7:14
  ask
• 7:14
  you
• 7:15
  this.
• 7:16
  When
• 7:17
  so
• 7:17
  much
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  spirituality,
• 7:19
  right.
• 7:19
  Has
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  do
• 7:20
  with
• 7:20
  we
• 7:20
  should
• 7:21
  maybe
• 7:21
  just
• 7:21
  decrease
• 7:22
  our
• 7:22
  desire,
• 7:23
  right?
• 7:23
  Decrease
• 7:23
  our
• 7:23
  desire.
• 7:24
  So
• 7:24
  then
• 7:24
  our
• 7:25
  mind
• 7:25
  can
• 7:25
  become
• 7:25
  clear,
• 7:26
  our
• 7:26
  spirituality
• 7:27
  can
• 7:27
  come
• 7:27
  out.
• 7:28
  Maybe
• 7:28
  this
• 7:28
  is
• 7:29
  very
• 7:29
  good
• 7:29
  for
• 7:29
  your
• 7:29
  health
• 7:30
  also.
• 7:32
  Actually,
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  only
• 7:34
  thing
• 7:34
  we
• 7:34
  need
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  desire
• 7:35
  is
• 7:36
  food,
• 7:37
  water
• 7:37
  and
• 7:38
  sleep.
• 7:38
  Right?
• 7:39
  So
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  wonder
• 7:39
  if
• 7:40
  food
• 7:41
  is
• 7:41
  sometimes
• 7:41
  I
• 7:42
  think
• 7:42
  overlooked
• 7:42
  in
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  Western
• 7:44
  culture.
• 7:44
  Western
• 7:45
  medicine,
• 7:46
  Western
• 7:46
  energy
• 7:47
  healing.
• 7:48
  I'm
• 7:48
  sorry,
• 7:48
  maybe
• 7:50
  Eastern
• 7:50
  energy
• 7:51
  healing,
• 7:51
  but
• 7:51
  Western
• 7:52
  coming
• 7:52
  to
• 7:53
  it
• 7:53
  overlooks
• 7:54
  food.
• 7:54
  Can
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  say
• 7:55
  anything
• 7:55
  about
• 7:56
  how
• 7:56
  food
• 7:57
  incorporates
• 7:58
  into.
• 7:58
  Into.
• 7:59
  Into
• 8:00
  your
• 8:00
  system?
• 8:02
  Okay,
• 8:02
  I
• 8:02
  want
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  talk.
• 8:04
  Talk
• 8:04
  about
• 8:04
  this
• 8:04
  in
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  2,
• 8:05
  2
• 8:06
  area.
• 8:07
  The
• 8:07
  desire
• 8:08
  part
• 8:08
  and
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  food
• 8:09
  part.
• 8:09
  As
• 8:09
  far
• 8:09
  as
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  food.
• 8:11
  Acupuncture
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  oriented
• 8:12
  medicine
• 8:13
  is
• 8:13
  governed
• 8:13
  by
• 8:14
  two
• 8:14
  major
• 8:14
  theories.
• 8:15
  Yin
• 8:15
  and
• 8:16
  Yang
• 8:16
  theories.
• 8:16
  Yin
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  Yang.
• 8:17
  I'm
• 8:17
  sure
• 8:17
  you've
• 8:18
  seen
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  circle.
• 8:19
  Absolutely.
• 8:21
  There's
• 8:21
  basically,
• 8:22
  there's
• 8:22
  always
• 8:23
  something
• 8:23
  exists
• 8:24
  in
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  ex.
• 8:25
  Exists
• 8:25
  in
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  universe.
• 8:26
  There's
• 8:27
  opposite
• 8:27
  or
• 8:27
  counterbalancing
• 8:28
  to
• 8:29
  it.
• 8:29
  Like
• 8:29
  up
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  down,
• 8:30
  left
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  right,
• 8:31
  dark
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  light,
• 8:32
  men
• 8:32
  and
• 8:32
  women,
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  so
• 8:34
  on.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:35
  there
• 8:35
  are
• 8:35
  five
• 8:35
  element
• 8:36
  theories.
• 8:38
  Governance,
• 8:38
  wood,
• 8:39
  metal,
• 8:39
  water,
• 8:40
  earth,
• 8:40
  and
• 8:41
  so
• 8:41
  on.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:42
  actually,
• 8:43
  if
• 8:43
  anybody's
• 8:44
  interested
• 8:45
  in
• 8:45
  this,
• 8:45
  just
• 8:45
  go
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  Google
• 8:47
  image,
• 8:48
  look
• 8:48
  for
• 8:49
  5
• 8:49
  element
• 8:50
  chart
• 8:51
  based
• 8:51
  on
• 8:51
  acupuncture.
• 8:52
  You'll
• 8:52
  get
• 8:52
  a
• 8:53
  whole
• 8:53
  bunch
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  them.
• 8:54
  Right?
• 8:55
  So
• 8:55
  based
• 8:55
  on
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  five
• 8:56
  element
• 8:56
  it
• 8:57
  affects
• 8:58
  applies
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  everything
• 8:59
  that
• 8:59
  we
• 8:59
  know.
• 9:00
  Direction,
• 9:01
  emotion,
• 9:02
  organs,
• 9:04
  color
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  taste.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  food.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  you
• 9:08
  can
• 9:08
  actually
• 9:08
  look
• 9:08
  at
• 9:08
  it.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:09
  earlier
• 9:09
  I
• 9:09
  told
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  about
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  emotion.
• 9:11
  The
• 9:12
  kidney
• 9:13
  is
• 9:14
  water.
• 9:15
  Water's
• 9:16
  emotion
• 9:16
  is
• 9:16
  fear.
• 9:18
  Say
• 9:20
  wood.
• 9:20
  Wood
• 9:21
  element,
• 9:23
  organs.
• 9:24
  Liver
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  gallbladder.
• 9:25
  Liver
• 9:26
  and
• 9:26
  gallbladder's
• 9:26
  emotion
• 9:27
  is
• 9:27
  anger.
• 9:28
  All
• 9:29
  right.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  liver
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  gallbladder
• 9:31
  meridians
• 9:31
  run
• 9:32
  side
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  the
• 9:32
  body,
• 9:33
  like
• 9:33
  side
• 9:33
  of
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  body.
• 9:34
  This
• 9:34
  is
• 9:35
  why
• 9:35
  when
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  get
• 9:35
  angry,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:36
  put
• 9:36
  your
• 9:36
  hands
• 9:36
  on
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  side,
• 9:37
  knowingly
• 9:38
  trying
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  open
• 9:39
  up
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  meridians.
• 9:40
  And
• 9:40
  its
• 9:41
  taste
• 9:41
  is
• 9:42
  sour.
• 9:43
  Oh,
• 9:43
  right.
• 9:44
  So
• 9:44
  when
• 9:45
  we
• 9:45
  become
• 9:45
  intuitive,
• 9:46
  part
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  the
• 9:48
  Qi
• 9:48
  mastery
• 9:49
  system
• 9:49
  is
• 9:50
  guiding
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  Be
• 9:52
  intuit,
• 9:53
  be
• 9:53
  intuitive
• 9:53
  and
• 9:54
  instinctive
• 9:55
  about
• 9:55
  what
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  going
• 9:56
  on
• 9:57
  in
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  body.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  intuitively
• 9:59
  following
• 10:00
  what
• 10:00
  your
• 10:00
  body
• 10:00
  is
• 10:01
  telling
• 10:01
  you
• 10:02
  not
• 10:02
  only
• 10:03
  and
• 10:03
  that's
• 10:03
  one
• 10:03
  part
• 10:04
  but
• 10:04
  there
• 10:04
  are
• 10:04
  five
• 10:05
  levels
• 10:05
  that
• 10:05
  we
• 10:05
  work
• 10:06
  on
• 10:07
  one
• 10:07
  part
• 10:08
  when
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  integrate
• 10:09
  to
• 10:09
  listen
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  your
• 10:10
  body.
• 10:11
  Have
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  ever
• 10:12
  experienced
• 10:13
  one
• 10:14
  someday
• 10:14
  like
• 10:15
  you
• 10:15
  just
• 10:15
  crave
• 10:16
  salt.
• 10:17
  Someday
• 10:17
  you
• 10:18
  just
• 10:18
  crave
• 10:18
  salt.
• 10:19
  Sour
• 10:20
  tasting
• 10:20
  food.
• 10:21
  You
• 10:21
  don't
• 10:21
  necessarily
• 10:21
  eat
• 10:22
  those
• 10:22
  kind
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  food.
• 10:22
  It's
• 10:23
  just
• 10:23
  oftentimes
• 10:24
  your
• 10:24
  body's
• 10:24
  way
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  telling
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  that
• 10:26
  your
• 10:26
  body
• 10:26
  needs.
• 10:28
  Okay,
• 10:29
  all
• 10:29
  right.
• 10:29
  And
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  color
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  wood
• 10:32
  is
• 10:33
  green.
• 10:33
  You
• 10:34
  wake
• 10:34
  up
• 10:34
  in
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  morning,
• 10:34
  you
• 10:35
  don't
• 10:35
  know
• 10:35
  why
• 10:35
  you
• 10:35
  don't
• 10:35
  you
• 10:36
  usually
• 10:36
  wear
• 10:36
  that
• 10:37
  particular
• 10:38
  color
• 10:38
  of
• 10:38
  shirt.
• 10:39
  But
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  feel
• 10:40
  like
• 10:40
  that's.
• 10:40
  That
• 10:41
  just
• 10:41
  feels
• 10:41
  right
• 10:41
  for
• 10:42
  you
• 10:42
  and
• 10:43
  that's
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  color
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  most
• 10:44
  harmonizing
• 10:45
  for
• 10:46
  you
• 10:47
  for
• 10:47
  your
• 10:47
  energy
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  for
• 10:48
  your
• 10:48
  body.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  you
• 10:50
  just
• 10:50
  feel
• 10:50
  different
• 10:50
  throughout
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  day.
• 10:52
  How
• 10:52
  do
• 10:52
  you
• 10:52
  differentiate
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  intuition
• 10:54
  from
• 10:54
  desire?
• 10:56
  Yes.
• 10:59
  If
• 10:59
  just
• 11:00
  there
• 11:01
  is
• 11:01
  element
• 11:02
  of
• 11:03
  energy
• 11:03
  going
• 11:04
  up
• 11:04
  in
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  head.
• 11:05
  When
• 11:06
  desire,
• 11:07
  when
• 11:08
  it,
• 11:08
  when
• 11:08
  it
• 11:08
  comes
• 11:09
  from
• 11:09
  your
• 11:09
  thought,
• 11:11
  when
• 11:11
  it's
• 11:11
  instinctive,
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  feel
• 11:13
  it
• 11:13
  in
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  body.
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  often
• 11:15
  time
• 11:15
  like
• 11:15
  to
• 11:16
  tell
• 11:16
  people
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  kind
• 11:16
  of
• 11:17
  separate
• 11:17
  from
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  head
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  body
• 11:18
  and
• 11:19
  see
• 11:19
  you
• 11:20
  feel
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  when
• 11:21
  energy
• 11:21
  going
• 11:22
  shooting
• 11:22
  up
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  head
• 11:23
  that's
• 11:23
  your
• 11:24
  thought.
• 11:25
  But
• 11:25
  when
• 11:25
  you
• 11:26
  feel
• 11:26
  it,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  feel
• 11:27
  it
• 11:27
  in
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  body.
• 11:27
  It
• 11:27
  could
• 11:28
  be
• 11:28
  sometime
• 11:28
  in
• 11:28
  your
• 11:29
  fingertips,
• 11:29
  sometime
• 11:30
  in
• 11:30
  or
• 11:30
  sometime
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  your
• 11:31
  gut.
• 11:32
  You
• 11:32
  just
• 11:32
  feel
• 11:32
  it
• 11:33
  in,
• 11:33
  in
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  body.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  wake
• 11:36
  up
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  morning
• 11:36
  when
• 11:37
  you're
• 11:37
  looking
• 11:37
  at
• 11:37
  the
• 11:37
  green
• 11:38
  color
• 11:38
  and
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  just
• 11:39
  feel
• 11:39
  it
• 11:40
  in
• 11:40
  your
• 11:40
  body
• 11:40
  like
• 11:40
  it
• 11:40
  just
• 11:41
  feels
• 11:41
  right
• 11:41
  to
• 11:42
  wear
• 11:43
  because
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  green
• 11:45
  is
• 11:45
  connected
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  liver
• 11:46
  and
• 11:46
  gallbladder
• 11:46
  and
• 11:47
  it's.
• 11:47
  It
• 11:47
  governs
• 11:48
  anger.
• 11:48
  We
• 11:48
  probably
• 11:50
  felt
• 11:50
  really
• 11:50
  angry
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  dead
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  day
• 11:52
  before
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  you
• 11:53
  just
• 11:54
  can
• 11:54
  drawn
• 11:54
  to
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  color
• 11:55
  green
• 11:57
  or
• 11:57
  could
• 11:57
  be
• 11:58
  taste
• 11:58
  of
• 11:59
  sour.
• 12:00
  And
• 12:01
  also
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  affects
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  east
• 12:04
  side
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  house
• 12:04
  for
• 12:05
  the
• 12:06
  green.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:07
  I
• 12:08
  told
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  liver
• 12:08
  gallbladder
• 12:09
  is
• 12:09
  connected
• 12:10
  to
• 12:11
  anger
• 12:12
  and
• 12:12
  liver
• 12:12
  and
• 12:13
  gallbladder.
• 12:13
  People
• 12:13
  who
• 12:14
  have
• 12:14
  liver
• 12:14
  gallbladder
• 12:15
  issue,
• 12:18
  I
• 12:18
  always
• 12:18
  ask
• 12:19
  them
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  check
• 12:20
  east
• 12:20
  side
• 12:21
  their
• 12:21
  east
• 12:21
  side
• 12:21
  of
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  house.
• 12:22
  It's
• 12:23
  the
• 12:23
  base
• 12:23
  feng
• 12:24
  shui.
• 12:25
  Oh,
• 12:25
  right,
• 12:26
  right.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  house
• 12:28
  is
• 12:29
  always
• 12:29
  messy
• 12:30
  for
• 12:30
  those
• 12:30
  people.
• 12:33
  Right.
• 12:33
  So
• 12:34
  it's
• 12:34
  very
• 12:34
  interesting
• 12:35
  how
• 12:35
  their
• 12:37
  chi,
• 12:37
  their
• 12:37
  energy
• 12:38
  will
• 12:38
  manifest
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  their
• 12:39
  household
• 12:40
  as
• 12:40
  well
• 12:40
  as
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  body.
• 12:41
  Well,
• 12:42
  we're
• 12:42
  coming
• 12:42
  up
• 12:42
  on
• 12:42
  a
• 12:42
  short
• 12:43
  break
• 12:43
  here.
• 12:43
  I'm
• 12:43
  Anthony
• 12:44
  Wright
• 12:44
  and
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  am
• 12:45
  your
• 12:45
  co
• 12:45
  host
• 12:46
  today
• 12:46
  on
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  Living
• 12:47
  Conversation
• 12:47
  with
• 12:48
  Adam
• 12:48
  Dietz.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  we
• 12:50
  are
• 12:50
  here
• 12:50
  with
• 12:50
  our
• 12:51
  guest
• 12:51
  Banya
• 12:52
  Lim.
• 12:53
  And
• 12:53
  how
• 12:53
  can
• 12:53
  people
• 12:53
  contact
• 12:54
  you?
• 12:54
  Banya
• 12:55
  just
• 12:55
  go
• 12:55
  to
• 12:56
  my
• 12:56
  website
• 12:56
  and
• 12:57
  you
• 12:57
  can
• 12:57
  always
• 12:57
  sign
• 12:57
  up
• 12:58
  for
• 12:58
  my
• 12:58
  free
• 12:58
  clarity
• 12:59
  session
• 13:00
  on
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  site.
• 13:01
  Okay.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:02
  it's
• 13:02
  B
• 13:02
  A
• 13:02
  N
• 13:03
  Y
• 13:03
  A
• 13:04
  L
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  M.
• 13:06
  Correct.
• 13:07
  Great.
• 13:07
  We'll
• 13:08
  take
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  short
• 13:08
  break
• 13:08
  and
• 13:09
  be
• 13:09
  right
• 13:09
  back.
• 13:09
  So
• 13:09
  stay
• 13:10
  tuned.
• 13:10
  I'm
• 13:11
  Anthony
• 13:11
  Wright
• 13:11
  and
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  am
• 13:12
  your
• 13:12
  co
• 13:12
  host
• 13:13
  today
• 13:13
  on
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  Living
• 13:14
  Conversation
• 13:15
  with
• 13:16
  Adam
• 13:16
  Dietz.
• 13:16
  Welcome
• 13:17
  back.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:18
  we're
• 13:18
  here
• 13:18
  with
• 13:18
  our
• 13:18
  guest
• 13:18
  Banya
• 13:19
  Lim,
• 13:19
  who
• 13:20
  is
• 13:20
  a
• 13:22
  spiritual
• 13:22
  acupuncturist.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:24
  before
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  break,
• 13:24
  Banya,
• 13:25
  you
• 13:25
  were
• 13:25
  talking
• 13:26
  about
• 13:27
  how
• 13:28
  people
• 13:29
  actually
• 13:31
  will
• 13:31
  manifest
• 13:32
  their
• 13:32
  symptoms
• 13:33
  not
• 13:33
  only
• 13:33
  in
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  body,
• 13:34
  but
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  their
• 13:34
  household
• 13:35
  with
• 13:35
  feng
• 13:35
  shui.
• 13:37
  And
• 13:39
  Adam,
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  had
• 13:40
  asked
• 13:40
  about
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  development
• 13:42
  of
• 13:42
  intuition.
• 13:44
  Do
• 13:44
  you
• 13:45
  recommend
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  I'm
• 13:46
  thinking
• 13:47
  about
• 13:47
  we
• 13:47
  are
• 13:47
  in
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  new
• 13:48
  year.
• 13:48
  This
• 13:48
  is
• 13:49
  2026,
• 13:50
  and
• 13:51
  some
• 13:51
  very
• 13:53
  interesting
• 13:54
  things
• 13:54
  have
• 13:54
  happened
• 13:55
  politically
• 13:57
  in
• 13:57
  our
• 13:57
  country.
• 13:58
  Do
• 13:58
  you
• 13:59
  recommend
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  your
• 14:00
  clients
• 14:02
  any
• 14:02
  sort
• 14:02
  of
• 14:03
  grounding
• 14:04
  exercise
• 14:05
  or
• 14:05
  how
• 14:06
  can
• 14:06
  you
• 14:06
  or
• 14:07
  mindfulness.
• 14:07
  Tell
• 14:08
  us
• 14:08
  about
• 14:08
  mindfulness.
• 14:09
  How
• 14:10
  do
• 14:10
  you
• 14:11
  assist
• 14:12
  your
• 14:12
  clients
• 14:13
  and
• 14:13
  our
• 14:13
  listeners
• 14:14
  perhaps
• 14:15
  to
• 14:15
  deal
• 14:16
  with
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  intense
• 14:19
  energy
• 14:20
  that
• 14:20
  seems
• 14:20
  to
• 14:21
  be
• 14:21
  coming
• 14:22
  through
• 14:22
  right
• 14:22
  now
• 14:23
  for
• 14:23
  everybody
• 14:23
  to
• 14:23
  deal
• 14:24
  with
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  new
• 14:24
  year?
• 14:25
  Yeah.
• 14:26
  By
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  way,
• 14:26
  I
• 14:26
  still
• 14:26
  want
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  go
• 14:27
  back
• 14:27
  to
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  desired
• 14:29
  part.
• 14:29
  Adam.
• 14:29
  Oh,
• 14:30
  sure,
• 14:30
  please,
• 14:30
  eventually.
• 14:31
  But
• 14:32
  let's
• 14:33
  talk
• 14:33
  about
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  question
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  you
• 14:35
  have
• 14:35
  about
• 14:35
  politically
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  what's
• 14:36
  going
• 14:37
  on
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  world.
• 14:38
  I
• 14:38
  absolutely
• 14:39
  believe
• 14:40
  that
• 14:41
  our
• 14:41
  inner
• 14:41
  world
• 14:42
  is
• 14:42
  getting
• 14:43
  reflected
• 14:43
  or
• 14:44
  mirror
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  outside.
• 14:45
  Yeah.
• 14:46
  And
• 14:47
  oftentimes
• 14:48
  we
• 14:48
  can
• 14:48
  get
• 14:48
  lost
• 14:49
  outside.
• 14:50
  Oftentimes
• 14:51
  we
• 14:51
  can
• 14:52
  get
• 14:52
  lost
• 14:52
  in
• 14:54
  thinking
• 14:55
  that
• 14:56
  only
• 14:56
  if
• 14:57
  things
• 14:57
  change
• 14:58
  out
• 14:58
  there,
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  can
• 14:59
  finally
• 14:59
  have
• 15:00
  a
• 15:00
  sense
• 15:00
  of
• 15:01
  peace
• 15:01
  within
• 15:01
  me.
• 15:02
  Right.
• 15:03
  But
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  know,
• 15:03
  it's
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  other
• 15:04
  way
• 15:04
  around
• 15:05
  when
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  find
• 15:05
  sense
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  peace
• 15:06
  within
• 15:07
  the
• 15:08
  world
• 15:08
  reflects.
• 15:09
  This
• 15:09
  is
• 15:10
  why
• 15:10
  there
• 15:10
  are
• 15:10
  so
• 15:10
  many
• 15:11
  people
• 15:11
  out
• 15:12
  there,
• 15:13
  although
• 15:14
  we
• 15:14
  are
• 15:14
  looking
• 15:15
  at
• 15:15
  and
• 15:15
  also
• 15:16
  dealing
• 15:16
  with
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  same
• 15:17
  things.
• 15:18
  Some
• 15:18
  people
• 15:18
  have
• 15:19
  a
• 15:19
  sense
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  ease
• 15:20
  about
• 15:21
  their
• 15:21
  life
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  some
• 15:22
  people,
• 15:23
  no
• 15:23
  matter
• 15:23
  what's
• 15:23
  going
• 15:24
  on,
• 15:24
  it
• 15:24
  could
• 15:25
  be
• 15:25
  just
• 15:25
  kind
• 15:25
  of
• 15:26
  chaotic
• 15:27
  in
• 15:27
  their
• 15:27
  lives.
• 15:28
  So
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  always
• 15:30
  say
• 15:30
  just
• 15:30
  have
• 15:31
  inventory
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  your
• 15:33
  own
• 15:33
  home
• 15:33
  first,
• 15:35
  your
• 15:35
  own
• 15:35
  house,
• 15:36
  your
• 15:37
  own
• 15:37
  inner
• 15:37
  energy.
• 15:39
  And
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  also
• 15:40
  believe
• 15:41
  it's
• 15:41
  also
• 15:41
  good
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  ton
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  news.
• 15:45
  Yeah,
• 15:46
  yeah,
• 15:47
  absolutely.
• 15:48
  Either
• 15:48
  one
• 15:48
  or
• 15:48
  the
• 15:49
  other
• 15:49
  side
• 15:49
  doesn't
• 15:50
  matter.
• 15:51
  Turning
• 15:51
  that
• 15:51
  off
• 15:52
  and
• 15:53
  find
• 15:53
  time
• 15:54
  to
• 15:54
  go
• 15:54
  within.
• 15:55
  We
• 15:55
  can
• 15:56
  definitely
• 15:56
  get
• 15:56
  lost
• 15:57
  there
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  we
• 15:58
  can
• 15:58
  definitely
• 16:00
  waste
• 16:00
  so
• 16:01
  much
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  energy
• 16:01
  and
• 16:02
  time
• 16:02
  in
• 16:02
  it
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  can
• 16:03
  it's
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  complete
• 16:04
  distraction.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:08
  find
• 16:08
  time
• 16:08
  to
• 16:09
  go
• 16:09
  within
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  be
• 16:10
  still.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  it
• 16:12
  doesn't
• 16:12
  necessarily
• 16:12
  have
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  be
• 16:13
  meditation.
• 16:14
  It
• 16:14
  could
• 16:14
  be
• 16:14
  swimming,
• 16:15
  it
• 16:15
  could
• 16:15
  be
• 16:15
  hiking.
• 16:15
  It
• 16:16
  could
• 16:16
  be
• 16:16
  just
• 16:16
  simple
• 16:17
  walking.
• 16:19
  Adam,
• 16:19
  I
• 16:19
  know
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  talk
• 16:20
  about
• 16:20
  this
• 16:20
  about
• 16:23
  when
• 16:23
  people
• 16:23
  are
• 16:24
  caught
• 16:24
  up
• 16:24
  in
• 16:24
  their
• 16:24
  Thoughts.
• 16:25
  It's
• 16:25
  like
• 16:25
  stirring
• 16:25
  up
• 16:26
  muddy
• 16:26
  water.
• 16:28
  Right,
• 16:28
  right.
• 16:28
  From
• 16:28
  Lao
• 16:29
  Tzu,
• 16:29
  from
• 16:30
  Dao
• 16:30
  Te
• 16:30
  Ching,
• 16:31
  and
• 16:32
  also
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  think
• 16:32
  banya.
• 16:33
  It
• 16:33
  really
• 16:33
  resonates
• 16:34
  where
• 16:34
  you're
• 16:34
  talking
• 16:35
  about
• 16:35
  going
• 16:35
  from
• 16:35
  inner
• 16:35
  to
• 16:36
  outer
• 16:36
  with
• 16:36
  Confucius.
• 16:37
  Great
• 16:37
  learning.
• 16:39
  The
• 16:39
  first
• 16:39
  step
• 16:39
  is
• 16:40
  all
• 16:40
  inside.
• 16:41
  When
• 16:41
  you
• 16:41
  take
• 16:41
  care
• 16:41
  of
• 16:41
  your
• 16:42
  mind,
• 16:42
  then
• 16:42
  you
• 16:42
  can
• 16:42
  go
• 16:43
  out
• 16:43
  into,
• 16:45
  you
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:46
  cultivate
• 16:46
  yourself,
• 16:47
  help
• 16:48
  harmonize
• 16:48
  your
• 16:48
  family,
• 16:49
  this
• 16:49
  kind
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  thing.
• 16:50
  Yeah.
• 16:50
  So
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  think
• 16:51
  it's
• 16:51
  really
• 16:52
  beautiful.
• 16:52
  And
• 16:53
  I
• 16:53
  want
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  say
• 16:53
  that,
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  know,
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  had
• 16:55
  an
• 16:55
  instinct
• 16:55
  when
• 16:56
  things
• 16:56
  were
• 16:56
  getting
• 16:57
  kind
• 16:57
  of
• 16:57
  heated
• 16:57
  politically
• 16:58
  a
• 16:58
  few
• 16:58
  months
• 16:58
  ago
• 16:59
  to
• 16:59
  cut
• 17:00
  my
• 17:00
  news
• 17:00
  consumption
• 17:01
  down
• 17:01
  a
• 17:01
  lot.
• 17:02
  And
• 17:02
  it's
• 17:02
  been
• 17:02
  very
• 17:03
  helpful.
• 17:03
  I
• 17:03
  appreciate
• 17:04
  you
• 17:04
  saying
• 17:04
  that
• 17:04
  for
• 17:05
  our
• 17:05
  listeners.
• 17:06
  Do
• 17:06
  you
• 17:07
  have
• 17:07
  any
• 17:07
  other.
• 17:09
  Did
• 17:10
  you
• 17:10
  get
• 17:10
  into
• 17:10
  much
• 17:11
  of
• 17:11
  philosophy,
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  roots
• 17:12
  of
• 17:13
  where
• 17:13
  some
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  this
• 17:13
  comes
• 17:13
  from?
• 17:14
  Because
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  know,
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  know
• 17:15
  Lao
• 17:15
  Tzu
• 17:15
  and
• 17:16
  Tao
• 17:16
  Te
• 17:16
  Ching
• 17:16
  talks
• 17:17
  about,
• 17:18
  you
• 17:18
  know,
• 17:18
  in
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  beginning,
• 17:19
  there's
• 17:19
  nothing,
• 17:19
  then
• 17:20
  Qi
• 17:20
  comes,
• 17:20
  then
• 17:21
  Yin
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  Yang,
• 17:22
  then,
• 17:22
  then
• 17:23
  I
• 17:23
  think
• 17:23
  five
• 17:24
  elements,
• 17:24
  then
• 17:24
  everything.
• 17:25
  Right.
• 17:26
  Can
• 17:26
  you.
• 17:26
  Can
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  say
• 17:26
  something
• 17:27
  to
• 17:27
  our
• 17:28
  listeners
• 17:29
  about
• 17:29
  some
• 17:29
  of
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  underlying
• 17:30
  philosophy
• 17:32
  and
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  background
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  maybe
• 17:33
  Taoism
• 17:34
  or
• 17:34
  Confucianism
• 17:35
  or
• 17:35
  Buddhism
• 17:36
  that.
• 17:36
  That
• 17:36
  informs
• 17:37
  your
• 17:37
  work?
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  believe
• 17:38
  it
• 17:39
  comes
• 17:39
  down
• 17:39
  to.
• 17:40
  It
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  either
• 17:41
  it
• 17:41
  could
• 17:41
  be
• 17:41
  Yin
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  Yang,
• 17:42
  Lao
• 17:42
  Tzu
• 17:42
  or
• 17:43
  Buddhism,
• 17:44
  or
• 17:44
  five
• 17:44
  elements.
• 17:45
  It's
• 17:45
  all
• 17:46
  about
• 17:46
  helping
• 17:46
  us
• 17:47
  to
• 17:48
  see
• 17:48
  ourselves
• 17:49
  as
• 17:49
  a
• 17:49
  microcosm
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  universe.
• 17:51
  Oh,
• 17:51
  yes,
• 17:52
  yes,
• 17:52
  yes,
• 17:52
  yes.
• 17:53
  You
• 17:54
  know,
• 17:54
  even
• 17:54
  acupuncture,
• 17:55
  we
• 17:55
  have
• 17:56
  365
• 17:58
  major
• 17:58
  acupuncture
• 17:59
  points
• 17:59
  in
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  body.
• 17:59
  And
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  365
• 18:01
  matches
• 18:01
  with
• 18:02
  365
• 18:03
  days
• 18:04
  in
• 18:04
  a
• 18:04
  year.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  we
• 18:05
  have
• 18:06
  12
• 18:06
  major
• 18:07
  meridians
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  matches
• 18:09
  12
• 18:10
  months
• 18:10
  in
• 18:10
  a
• 18:11
  year.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:12
  everything
• 18:13
  is
• 18:13
  a
• 18:14
  reflection
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  the
• 18:15
  universe.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  think
• 18:17
  that's
• 18:18
  excellent.
• 18:18
  I'm
• 18:18
  really
• 18:19
  glad
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  said
• 18:19
  that.
• 18:19
  It
• 18:19
  also
• 18:20
  reminds
• 18:20
  me
• 18:20
  when
• 18:21
  I
• 18:21
  was
• 18:21
  teaching
• 18:22
  Taoism
• 18:23
  or
• 18:23
  Lao
• 18:23
  Tzu,
• 18:24
  I'll
• 18:24
  talk
• 18:24
  about.
• 18:24
  This
• 18:25
  is
• 18:25
  like
• 18:25
  your
• 18:25
  breath
• 18:26
  comes
• 18:26
  in,
• 18:26
  your
• 18:27
  breath
• 18:27
  goes
• 18:27
  out,
• 18:28
  your
• 18:28
  reverse,
• 18:29
  reverse
• 18:29
  and
• 18:29
  return
• 18:29
  is
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  movement
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  dao.
• 18:31
  Tides
• 18:31
  go
• 18:32
  in,
• 18:32
  tides
• 18:32
  go
• 18:33
  out.
• 18:34
  Morning
• 18:34
  rises
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  noon,
• 18:35
  goes
• 18:36
  back
• 18:36
  to
• 18:36
  evening,
• 18:37
  winter
• 18:38
  begins,
• 18:39
  goes
• 18:39
  to
• 18:39
  summer,
• 18:40
  back
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  winter.
• 18:40
  Right.
• 18:41
  In
• 18:41
  and
• 18:41
  out,
• 18:41
  in
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  out.
• 18:42
  Right.
• 18:42
  Similar.
• 18:44
  Exactly.
• 18:45
  There's
• 18:45
  natural
• 18:46
  flow
• 18:46
  within
• 18:47
  us
• 18:47
  that's
• 18:48
  reflecting
• 18:49
  what's
• 18:49
  happening
• 18:50
  outside.
• 18:51
  So
• 18:52
  when
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  get
• 18:53
  to
• 18:53
  really
• 18:53
  go
• 18:53
  in
• 18:54
  and
• 18:55
  be
• 18:55
  with
• 18:55
  yourself,
• 18:56
  you
• 18:56
  get
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  feel
• 18:57
  and
• 18:58
  understand
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  universe
• 19:01
  versus
• 19:02
  within
• 19:02
  us.
• 19:03
  Also,
• 19:04
  why
• 19:04
  we
• 19:04
  want
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  create
• 19:05
  outside.
• 19:06
  It
• 19:06
  has
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  start,
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  does
• 19:08
  start
• 19:08
  from
• 19:08
  within
• 19:08
  us.
• 19:09
  That
• 19:09
  goes
• 19:10
  back
• 19:10
  with
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  desires.
• 19:12
  Our
• 19:12
  journey
• 19:13
  is
• 19:13
  not
• 19:14
  about
• 19:15
  cutting
• 19:16
  back
• 19:17
  or
• 19:17
  diminishing
• 19:18
  or
• 19:19
  just
• 19:20
  destroying,
• 19:22
  destroying
• 19:22
  our
• 19:22
  desire.
• 19:23
  It's
• 19:23
  all
• 19:24
  about
• 19:24
  really
• 19:24
  honoring
• 19:25
  our
• 19:25
  desire.
• 19:25
  As
• 19:26
  long
• 19:26
  as
• 19:26
  we
• 19:26
  are
• 19:26
  in
• 19:27
  this
• 19:27
  physical
• 19:27
  body,
• 19:28
  we
• 19:28
  are
• 19:28
  going
• 19:28
  to
• 19:29
  have
• 19:29
  desire
• 19:29
  and
• 19:30
  we
• 19:30
  are
• 19:30
  going
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  have
• 19:30
  attachment.
• 19:32
  Then
• 19:32
  let's
• 19:33
  work
• 19:33
  with
• 19:33
  it.
• 19:34
  Your
• 19:34
  attachment,
• 19:35
  your
• 19:35
  desire
• 19:36
  is
• 19:36
  a
• 19:36
  certain
• 19:36
  thing.
• 19:37
  Let's
• 19:37
  work
• 19:37
  on
• 19:38
  finding,
• 19:39
  figuring
• 19:39
  out
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  way
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  get
• 19:40
  those.
• 19:42
  Ultimately
• 19:43
  what
• 19:43
  you
• 19:44
  want
• 19:44
  is
• 19:44
  right
• 19:45
  behind
• 19:45
  that
• 19:46
  desire.
• 19:46
  But
• 19:47
  it's
• 19:47
  okay
• 19:48
  because
• 19:49
  oftentimes
• 19:50
  we
• 19:50
  can
• 19:50
  get
• 19:50
  lost
• 19:51
  in
• 19:51
  this.
• 19:51
  These
• 19:52
  things
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  we
• 19:52
  want
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  get.
• 19:54
  Once
• 19:54
  you
• 19:54
  get,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:56
  know
• 19:56
  that
• 19:56
  what
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  truly
• 19:57
  wanted
• 19:58
  was
• 19:58
  something
• 19:59
  deeper
• 19:59
  than
• 20:00
  this.
• 20:01
  And
• 20:02
  getting
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  this
• 20:03
  place
• 20:03
  is
• 20:03
  the
• 20:04
  key
• 20:04
  to
• 20:08
  achieving
• 20:08
  this
• 20:09
  desire.
• 20:09
  For
• 20:10
  example,
• 20:12
  I
• 20:13
  want
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  have
• 20:13
  this
• 20:13
  beautiful
• 20:14
  house
• 20:14
  or
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  want
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  get
• 20:16
  married
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  this
• 20:17
  beautiful
• 20:17
  woman,
• 20:18
  whatever
• 20:18
  that
• 20:18
  might
• 20:19
  be.
• 20:19
  What
• 20:19
  you
• 20:20
  really
• 20:20
  want
• 20:20
  is
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  future
• 20:21
  feeling
• 20:22
  behind
• 20:22
  that,
• 20:23
  that
• 20:24
  emotion
• 20:25
  behind
• 20:25
  that.
• 20:26
  And
• 20:26
  so
• 20:27
  we
• 20:27
  can
• 20:27
  get
• 20:27
  lost
• 20:27
  in
• 20:28
  having
• 20:28
  and
• 20:29
  doing.
• 20:31
  Most
• 20:31
  of
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  day.
• 20:32
  We
• 20:32
  are
• 20:32
  lost
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  having
• 20:33
  and
• 20:33
  do
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  want
• 20:34
  to
• 20:34
  have
• 20:34
  this,
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  want
• 20:35
  to
• 20:35
  do
• 20:35
  this.
• 20:37
  Then
• 20:38
  why
• 20:38
  do
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  think
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  will
• 20:39
  feel
• 20:40
  if
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  have
• 20:40
  this?
• 20:41
  What
• 20:41
  do
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  think
• 20:41
  that
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  feel
• 20:42
  when
• 20:43
  you
• 20:43
  do
• 20:43
  this?
• 20:44
  This
• 20:45
  is
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  being
• 20:46
  part,
• 20:47
  this
• 20:47
  is
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  doing
• 20:48
  part.
• 20:49
  So
• 20:49
  when
• 20:49
  you
• 20:50
  reverse
• 20:50
  this,
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  get
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  do
• 20:52
  this.
• 20:53
  So
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  be
• 20:54
  first.
• 20:55
  We
• 20:55
  can
• 20:55
  get
• 20:55
  lost
• 20:56
  in
• 20:56
  doing
• 20:57
  right?
• 20:58
  We
• 20:58
  can't.
• 20:59
  We
• 20:59
  are
• 20:59
  our
• 20:59
  lives
• 20:59
  all
• 21:00
  lost
• 21:00
  in
• 21:00
  this
• 21:00
  doing
• 21:01
  part,
• 21:02
  having
• 21:02
  and
• 21:03
  doing.
• 21:04
  And
• 21:04
  we
• 21:04
  forget
• 21:04
  that
• 21:05
  when
• 21:05
  we
• 21:06
  think
• 21:06
  about
• 21:06
  it.
• 21:06
  When
• 21:06
  we
• 21:07
  have
• 21:07
  this
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  being.
• 21:08
  Doing
• 21:08
  what?
• 21:09
  How
• 21:09
  are
• 21:09
  you
• 21:09
  gonna
• 21:10
  be?
• 21:12
  That
• 21:12
  being
• 21:13
  part
• 21:13
  is
• 21:14
  why
• 21:14
  we
• 21:14
  get
• 21:14
  to
• 21:15
  experience
• 21:16
  and
• 21:16
  get
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  through
• 21:17
  being
• 21:17
  still.
• 21:21
  Go
• 21:21
  ahead.
• 21:22
  I
• 21:22
  was
• 21:22
  wondering
• 21:22
  if
• 21:23
  as
• 21:24
  you're
• 21:24
  describing
• 21:24
  that,
• 21:25
  I'm
• 21:25
  thinking
• 21:26
  your
• 21:26
  examples
• 21:27
  were
• 21:27
  very
• 21:28
  clear.
• 21:29
  House
• 21:29
  or
• 21:30
  wife.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:32
  if
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  can,
• 21:33
  is
• 21:33
  it
• 21:34
  also
• 21:34
  true
• 21:35
  that
• 21:35
  if
• 21:35
  you
• 21:35
  can
• 21:35
  contemplate
• 21:36
  the
• 21:36
  feeling
• 21:37
  that
• 21:37
  you
• 21:37
  want
• 21:37
  to
• 21:38
  get
• 21:38
  from
• 21:38
  these
• 21:38
  things,
• 21:39
  then
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  can
• 21:41
  maybe
• 21:42
  have
• 21:42
  that
• 21:42
  feeling
• 21:43
  just
• 21:43
  by
• 21:43
  contemplating?
• 21:44
  Oh
• 21:44
  yes.
• 21:45
  Whatever
• 21:46
  way
• 21:46
  you
• 21:47
  can
• 21:47
  feel
• 21:47
  it.
• 21:48
  Feel
• 21:48
  it
• 21:49
  feeling.
• 21:50
  I
• 21:51
  don't
• 21:51
  know
• 21:51
  who
• 21:51
  wrote
• 21:52
  it.
• 21:53
  I
• 21:53
  think
• 21:53
  some
• 21:53
  old
• 21:54
  olden
• 21:54
  days
• 21:55
  someone
• 21:55
  wrote.
• 21:55
  I
• 21:56
  think
• 21:56
  it's
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  free.
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  think
• 21:57
  Neville
• 21:57
  Goddard
• 21:58
  probably
• 21:58
  said
• 21:59
  feeling
• 22:00
  is
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  secret
• 22:02
  and
• 22:03
  five
• 22:04
  element
• 22:04
  theory,
• 22:04
  Yin
• 22:05
  and
• 22:05
  yang
• 22:05
  is.
• 22:06
  And
• 22:06
  also
• 22:06
  acupuncture.
• 22:07
  It's
• 22:08
  all
• 22:08
  about
• 22:08
  coming
• 22:09
  back
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  here
• 22:10
  and
• 22:10
  realizing
• 22:11
  that
• 22:11
  we
• 22:11
  are
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  manifestor.
• 22:13
  We
• 22:13
  are
• 22:13
  the
• 22:14
  creator
• 22:14
  of
• 22:15
  our
• 22:15
  own
• 22:15
  reality.
• 22:16
  We
• 22:16
  are
• 22:16
  the
• 22:17
  creator
• 22:17
  of
• 22:18
  this
• 22:18
  universe.
• 22:19
  We
• 22:20
  have
• 22:20
  365
• 22:21
  acupuncture
• 22:22
  points
• 22:22
  in
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  body.
• 22:23
  We
• 22:23
  have
• 22:23
  12
• 22:24
  meridians
• 22:24
  within
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  body.
• 22:26
  Each
• 22:26
  organ
• 22:26
  holds
• 22:27
  connected
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  its
• 22:28
  very
• 22:28
  specific
• 22:29
  emotions.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:31
  we
• 22:31
  are
• 22:32
  so
• 22:32
  busy
• 22:33
  getting
• 22:33
  lost
• 22:33
  in
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  outside.
• 22:34
  When
• 22:34
  you
• 22:34
  come
• 22:35
  back
• 22:35
  here.
• 22:36
  Everything
• 22:36
  literally
• 22:37
  what
• 22:37
  we
• 22:37
  are
• 22:38
  looking
• 22:38
  for
• 22:38
  is
• 22:38
  within
• 22:39
  us.
• 22:40
  And
• 22:40
  find
• 22:40
  time
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  look
• 22:41
  for
• 22:42
  those.
• 22:42
  Find
• 22:42
  time
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  just
• 22:45
  being
• 22:45
  in
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  energy
• 22:46
  as
• 22:47
  much
• 22:47
  as
• 22:47
  you.
• 22:47
  As
• 22:48
  you
• 22:48
  can.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  not
• 22:51
  only
• 22:51
  you
• 22:51
  get
• 22:51
  to
• 22:53
  get
• 22:54
  to
• 22:54
  achieve
• 22:55
  what
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  desire,
• 22:57
  but
• 22:57
  also
• 22:58
  you
• 22:58
  get
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  create
• 22:59
  sense
• 22:59
  of
• 23:00
  healing
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  harmony
• 23:01
  for
• 23:01
  yourself
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  for
• 23:02
  others.
• 23:03
  Because
• 23:03
  when
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  heal,
• 23:05
  when
• 23:05
  you
• 23:05
  access
• 23:06
  that
• 23:06
  energy
• 23:07
  that's
• 23:07
  within,
• 23:08
  outside
• 23:09
  has
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  reflect
• 23:10
  that.
• 23:12
  Okay.
• 23:13
  You
• 23:13
  know,
• 23:14
  one
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  things
• 23:15
  that
• 23:15
  I
• 23:16
  remember
• 23:16
  Alan
• 23:16
  Watts
• 23:17
  talking
• 23:17
  about,
• 23:19
  Alan
• 23:20
  Watts,
• 23:20
  who
• 23:20
  was
• 23:21
  the.
• 23:21
  The
• 23:22
  British
• 23:24
  student
• 23:24
  and
• 23:24
  he
• 23:24
  brought
• 23:25
  10
• 23:26
  and.
• 23:26
  And
• 23:26
  Taoism
• 23:27
  to.
• 23:28
  To
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  United
• 23:29
  States.
• 23:32
  And
• 23:32
  in
• 23:32
  Buddhism,
• 23:33
  from
• 23:34
  what
• 23:34
  I
• 23:34
  understand,
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  Buddha
• 23:36
  said
• 23:36
  we
• 23:36
  suffer
• 23:36
  because
• 23:37
  we
• 23:37
  desire,
• 23:38
  and
• 23:38
  when
• 23:39
  we
• 23:39
  desire
• 23:39
  something,
• 23:39
  we
• 23:40
  separate
• 23:40
  ourselves
• 23:41
  from
• 23:41
  it.
• 23:42
  And
• 23:42
  so
• 23:43
  the
• 23:44
  real.
• 23:45
  There
• 23:45
  was
• 23:45
  a
• 23:45
  breakthrough
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  had
• 23:47
  about
• 23:48
  listening
• 23:48
  to
• 23:49
  Alan
• 23:49
  Watts
• 23:50
  saying
• 23:50
  the,
• 23:51
  The.
• 23:51
  The
• 23:52
  error
• 23:53
  that
• 23:53
  we
• 23:53
  make
• 23:53
  in
• 23:54
  desire
• 23:54
  is
• 23:55
  to
• 23:55
  say
• 23:55
  that
• 23:56
  we
• 23:57
  are
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  thing
• 23:57
  that
• 23:58
  we
• 23:58
  desire
• 23:58
  and
• 23:59
  ourselves
• 23:59
  are
• 23:59
  separated
• 24:00
  things,
• 24:01
  but
• 24:01
  to
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  error
• 24:02
  that
• 24:03
  we
• 24:03
  make
• 24:03
  is
• 24:03
  a
• 24:03
  separation.
• 24:05
  So
• 24:05
  one
• 24:05
  of
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  things
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  I
• 24:06
  came
• 24:07
  to
• 24:07
  understand
• 24:08
  what
• 24:08
  there's
• 24:08
  no
• 24:08
  separated
• 24:09
  Anthony.
• 24:10
  And
• 24:10
  there's
• 24:11
  just
• 24:11
  what
• 24:11
  is
• 24:11
  happening
• 24:12
  here,
• 24:14
  what
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  universe
• 24:15
  is
• 24:15
  doing
• 24:15
  here,
• 24:16
  and
• 24:16
  what
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  universe
• 24:16
  is
• 24:17
  doing
• 24:17
  where
• 24:17
  Adamant
• 24:17
  is.
• 24:18
  Is,
• 24:18
  and
• 24:19
  what
• 24:19
  the
• 24:19
  universe
• 24:19
  is
• 24:19
  doing
• 24:20
  where
• 24:20
  Banya
• 24:20
  is,
• 24:20
  and
• 24:21
  what
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  universe
• 24:21
  is
• 24:21
  doing
• 24:22
  where
• 24:23
  our
• 24:23
  listeners
• 24:24
  are
• 24:24
  in
• 24:24
  this
• 24:24
  moment.
• 24:25
  But
• 24:25
  you're
• 24:26
  also
• 24:26
  talking
• 24:26
  about
• 24:26
  coming
• 24:27
  back
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  moment
• 24:29
  and
• 24:30
  then
• 24:30
  the
• 24:31
  whole
• 24:31
  cosmos
• 24:32
  manifests
• 24:33
  from
• 24:34
  our
• 24:34
  ching,
• 24:36
  right
• 24:36
  from
• 24:36
  our
• 24:37
  core.
• 24:37
  Is
• 24:37
  that
• 24:37
  right?
• 24:39
  Chi?
• 24:39
  Yeah.
• 24:41
  Okay.
• 24:42
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:45
  is
• 24:45
  that
• 24:45
  one
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  things
• 24:45
  that
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  assist
• 24:46
  people?
• 24:47
  Yeah.
• 24:48
  Come
• 24:48
  to
• 24:50
  through
• 24:50
  harmony.
• 24:51
  One
• 24:51
  of
• 24:51
  the
• 24:52
  main
• 24:52
  diff.
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  wouldn't
• 24:53
  say
• 24:54
  even
• 24:54
  difference,
• 24:54
  but
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  think,
• 24:55
  clarification,
• 24:56
  I'm
• 24:56
  a
• 24:56
  this
• 24:57
  myself.
• 24:58
  Yeah.
• 24:59
  I
• 25:00
  think
• 25:00
  people
• 25:00
  misunderstand
• 25:02
  when
• 25:02
  Buddha
• 25:02
  say
• 25:03
  life
• 25:04
  is
• 25:04
  suffering
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  they
• 25:05
  just
• 25:05
  accept
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  just
• 25:06
  have
• 25:07
  to
• 25:07
  deal
• 25:07
  with
• 25:07
  this.
• 25:08
  Right,
• 25:10
  right.
• 25:10
  No,
• 25:10
  I
• 25:10
  think
• 25:11
  suffering
• 25:11
  is
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  choice.
• 25:12
  Yeah.
• 25:14
  Yep.
• 25:15
  The
• 25:15
  moment
• 25:15
  you
• 25:16
  choose
• 25:17
  something
• 25:17
  different,
• 25:18
  everything
• 25:19
  else
• 25:19
  changes.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:22
  whatever
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  choose,
• 25:23
  whatever
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  desire
• 25:26
  based
• 25:26
  on
• 25:26
  that,
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  can
• 25:27
  create
• 25:28
  in
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  world.
• 25:29
  So
• 25:29
  chi
• 25:29
  master
• 25:30
  system
• 25:30
  is
• 25:31
  basically
• 25:31
  about
• 25:32
  creating
• 25:32
  your
• 25:33
  dreams,
• 25:33
  whatever
• 25:34
  they
• 25:34
  might
• 25:34
  be.
• 25:34
  As
• 25:35
  long
• 25:35
  as
• 25:35
  it's
• 25:35
  aligned
• 25:36
  with
• 25:36
  your
• 25:36
  soul,
• 25:37
  we
• 25:37
  can
• 25:38
  work
• 25:38
  on
• 25:38
  there.
• 25:39
  Yep.
• 25:40
  Yeah.
• 25:41
  And
• 25:41
  I'm
• 25:42
  really
• 25:44
  have
• 25:44
  this
• 25:45
  sense
• 25:45
  and
• 25:46
  I.
• 25:47
  That
• 25:47
  there's
• 25:47
  really
• 25:48
  no
• 25:48
  accidents,
• 25:49
  that
• 25:49
  everything
• 25:49
  is
• 25:50
  happening
• 25:50
  the
• 25:51
  way
• 25:51
  that
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  should.
• 25:52
  Our
• 25:53
  mentor,
• 25:53
  Dr.
• 25:54
  Wu,
• 25:54
  used
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  talk
• 25:54
  about
• 25:55
  Tian
• 25:55
  Ming,
• 25:56
  which
• 25:56
  is
• 25:56
  heaven's
• 25:57
  destiny.
• 25:58
  And
• 26:00
  do
• 26:01
  you
• 26:01
  have
• 26:01
  a
• 26:01
  sense
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  from
• 26:02
  the
• 26:02
  chi
• 26:02
  masters
• 26:02
  that.
• 26:03
  That
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  have
• 26:03
  been
• 26:04
  learning
• 26:05
  from?
• 26:06
  Absolutely.
• 26:07
  Absolutely.
• 26:08
  Everything
• 26:10
  that
• 26:10
  we
• 26:10
  are
• 26:10
  experiencing,
• 26:11
  everything
• 26:12
  we
• 26:12
  are
• 26:12
  having
• 26:13
  right
• 26:13
  now,
• 26:15
  we
• 26:15
  are
• 26:15
  here
• 26:16
  and
• 26:16
  we're
• 26:16
  experiencing
• 26:17
  for
• 26:17
  a
• 26:18
  reason.
• 26:20
  And
• 26:20
  we're
• 26:20
  exactly
• 26:21
  where
• 26:21
  we're
• 26:22
  supposed
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  be.
• 26:24
  Every
• 26:24
  moment.
• 26:25
  We.
• 26:25
  You
• 26:25
  can
• 26:25
  choose
• 26:26
  on
• 26:26
  other
• 26:26
  things.
• 26:26
  Another
• 26:27
  path,
• 26:27
  another
• 26:28
  journey.
• 26:29
  You're
• 26:29
  exactly
• 26:30
  where
• 26:30
  it's
• 26:30
  supposed
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  be
• 26:31
  based
• 26:31
  on
• 26:32
  what
• 26:32
  we
• 26:32
  have
• 26:32
  gathered
• 26:33
  so
• 26:33
  far
• 26:33
  and
• 26:34
  we
• 26:34
  had
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  go
• 26:35
  through
• 26:35
  every
• 26:35
  single
• 26:36
  thing
• 26:37
  there.
• 26:37
  There's
• 26:38
  no
• 26:38
  accident.
• 26:39
  Absolutely
• 26:40
  no
• 26:40
  accident.
• 26:41
  Yeah.
• 26:42
  Yeah.
• 26:43
  So
• 26:44
  I'm
• 26:44
  very
• 26:44
  grateful
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  we
• 26:46
  have
• 26:46
  gathered
• 26:47
  here
• 26:48
  to.
• 26:48
  Yes.
• 26:49
  To
• 26:49
  talk
• 26:49
  together.
• 26:52
  We're
• 26:52
  gonna
• 26:53
  we're
• 26:53
  coming
• 26:53
  up
• 26:53
  on
• 26:53
  another
• 26:54
  break.
• 26:54
  I'm
• 26:54
  Anthony
• 26:55
  Wright
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  am
• 26:57
  your
• 26:57
  co
• 26:58
  host
• 26:58
  today
• 26:59
  with
• 27:00
  Adam
• 27:00
  Dietz.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:01
  we're
• 27:01
  on
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  Living
• 27:02
  Conversation
• 27:03
  with
• 27:03
  our
• 27:04
  guest
• 27:04
  Banya
• 27:05
  Lim.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:07
  where
• 27:07
  are
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  located,
• 27:08
  Banya?
• 27:08
  I'm
• 27:09
  in
• 27:09
  Sedona.
• 27:10
  Okay.
• 27:11
  But
• 27:11
  people
• 27:11
  can
• 27:12
  contact
• 27:12
  you
• 27:12
  through
• 27:12
  your
• 27:13
  website
• 27:13
  and
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  said
• 27:14
  that
• 27:15
  you
• 27:15
  do
• 27:15
  a
• 27:15
  set,
• 27:15
  you
• 27:16
  do
• 27:16
  sessions
• 27:16
  on
• 27:16
  your
• 27:17
  website
• 27:17
  on
• 27:18
  or
• 27:18
  online?
• 27:19
  Yes,
• 27:19
  most
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  my
• 27:20
  sessions
• 27:20
  online
• 27:21
  these
• 27:21
  days.
• 27:23
  You
• 27:23
  can
• 27:23
  go
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  banyalim.com
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  that's.
• 27:26
  B
• 27:26
  A
• 27:26
  N
• 27:26
  Y
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  L
• 27:28
  I
• 27:28
  N
• 27:28
  as
• 27:29
  one
• 27:29
  word
• 27:29
  dot
• 27:30
  com.
• 27:30
  Yes.
• 27:31
  Great.
• 27:32
  All
• 27:32
  right.
• 27:32
  We're
• 27:32
  going
• 27:32
  to
• 27:33
  take
• 27:33
  another
• 27:33
  short
• 27:33
  break
• 27:33
  and
• 27:34
  we'll
• 27:34
  be
• 27:34
  right
• 27:34
  back.
• 27:34
  So
• 27:35
  stay
• 27:35
  tuned.