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Full Episode: Dr. Simone Whitmore of Bravo’s “Married to Medicine,” Dr. Ian Smith of “The Doctors,” actor Hassan Johnson & Matchmaker Spicy Mari · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a boy
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  Speaker 1: Certified O b G y N and star on Bravo's
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  Speaker 1: Married to Medicine, returning for his eighth season with guests well.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the co stars are stars or Dr Jacqueline
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  Speaker 1: of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily who's a
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  Speaker 1: danist uh. Dr Tessa who's an occupying occupational medicine, Toya
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  Speaker 1: who's well Tarya and they're married to a doctor. And
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  Speaker 1: friends of the cast like Lisa and the Cold Guard
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  Speaker 1: Well and Carrie Welles. New cast member this season, Anila
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  Speaker 1: a song on the pilot first year. She's a fashion
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  Speaker 1: blog up but she's married to a doctor. Dr Simone
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  Speaker 1: Whitmore is on my show to talk about COVID eight
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  Speaker 1: team as civil unrest. That's an erring on the season
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  Speaker 1: that she's experienced personally as well. End the upcoming season
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  Speaker 1: of marriage, which is the eighth seed, the marriage to
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  Speaker 1: medicine and the realities of being a real doctor on
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  Speaker 1: a reality show. Please work on Monday making conversation for
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  Speaker 1: the very first time. I'm happy to have her on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Dr Simone Whitmore, how are you doing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing excellent and thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the reality shows at one time
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  Speaker 1: would consider I thought it would be a fad. I
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  Speaker 1: thought they wouldn't last. And at one time there was
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  Speaker 1: really out of control. They were physically out of control
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of noise like the custom,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fussing, a lot of drink throwing. And
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  Speaker 1: you decided to a being a certified doctor into this room.
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  Speaker 1: What what drove you or what was the motivation behind
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  Speaker 1: being a part of merrit to medicine. The reason I
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  Speaker 1: was willing to film reality TV is because I felt
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  Speaker 1: that little black girls in America needed to see somebody
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  Speaker 1: that didn't come from money. I came from an alcoholic dad,
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  Speaker 1: a single mom, and I know how to have a
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  Speaker 1: good time and live my life without the white coat.
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted little brown girls in America to see
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  Speaker 1: if I did it, she can do it too. Well.
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  Speaker 1: You know you are doing that. It's in this an
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  Speaker 1: eight season and it's all about branding too and always
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  Speaker 1: about what people think of you, and that this is
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  Speaker 1: not a negative interview. These are just basic questions and
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  Speaker 1: that I'm just probing and just trying to get your
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  Speaker 1: story out because I think it's a really great story.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched the show offered on over the years,
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  Speaker 1: and my background is casting and producing, so I'm very
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  Speaker 1: familiar with your talents and a lot of your cast
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  Speaker 1: member quite where Up has been on my show several times.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of hers and so. But when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you're practicing doctor like you are, you're on
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  Speaker 1: the reality show, does it and you have a practice,
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  Speaker 1: does it ever become an issue with the people that
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  Speaker 1: you are, that you are that are your patients. So
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  Speaker 1: most of my patients who have been with me for years,
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  Speaker 1: they know who I am. I may say a little
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  Speaker 1: mild cuss word in the office trying to be funny,
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  Speaker 1: and my patients understand me when I can't into reality TV.
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  Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less,
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  Speaker 1: just my authentic self. And what is your authentic self?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B G.
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  Speaker 1: Y N. But I also like to have a good time,
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  Speaker 1: hang out shop, have a cocktail hour, and I love
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  Speaker 1: the laugh. Well, you know, I think you're thinking, hear
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying you want to break the stereotype, or
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  Speaker 1: if there is a stereotype, you want to say, this
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  Speaker 1: is me and it's all right to be me with
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  Speaker 1: no with no um. I guess you know. Standards are
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  Speaker 1: are because some people kind of put people on pedestals.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what you're saying that please look
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  Speaker 1: at me. I'm Dr Samone with Moore, I am I
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  Speaker 1: am board certified, I am successful, I'm happily married. I
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  Speaker 1: have a son about to go to college. He's living
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  Speaker 1: a good life, and I live in a beautiful home.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't I be me? Why can't I be Why
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  Speaker 1: can't I dress this way in this fashion fashion savvy?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't I eat this way? Why can't that laugh
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  Speaker 1: out lot in public? So in your says, you feel
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  Speaker 1: like that there are certain standards that people hold doctors
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  Speaker 1: to that should be pulled down or accepted that it's
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  Speaker 1: all right to be a human being. Not to say
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  Speaker 1: that any standard that we have or the way we
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  Speaker 1: see our doctors should be pulled down, but they should
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  Speaker 1: be humanized. Man, we are human first. And I have
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  Speaker 1: that doctor before my name. Now I have that m
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  Speaker 1: D after my name, but it's not on my birth certificate.
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  Speaker 1: It does not define who I am. I'm a wife,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a mother, I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend. And again,
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  Speaker 1: life is about being well rounded. My dad always taught
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  Speaker 1: me that be well rounded. Well, you know the thing
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  Speaker 1: I got that impression of you, uh and the first
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  Speaker 1: episode of the eighth season, which I did get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to see because I want to make sure I
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  Speaker 1: was caught up to speed on where the characters were
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  Speaker 1: being developed, and first of the first basically the first
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  Speaker 1: episode is your episode. Like I said, you joked off
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  Speaker 1: air and said, you know you start why not? And
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  Speaker 1: so it ended with you and you and down You're Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: Still got issues, heavily got issues. You know, your son
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  Speaker 1: about to go off to college. But I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a real tender moment in there, your conversation with
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  Speaker 1: your son about racism, you know, because that's a reality
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  Speaker 1: that you know. I have a daughter, she's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's in college, and but even having a young African
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  Speaker 1: American male that has to be even more stressful knowing
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  Speaker 1: he's going to an environment that may have seeds of racism.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that and we're just talking about parenting. That's
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  Speaker 1: me or not. We're both parents. But you had a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with your son, how do you feel? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: lights on on and lights like I felt that was
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  Speaker 1: a real conversation was happening with him. But that still
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  Speaker 1: has to be some hesitation about him walking out that door.
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  Speaker 1: And because you want him to come home. You wanted
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  Speaker 1: to when you when you call that phone, you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to answer. You wanted to be there when he's happy.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be there when he's said. But you
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  Speaker 1: want to be there when somebody's doing him wrong because
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  Speaker 1: you didn't put eighteen years of your life into him
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  Speaker 1: or bring him into this world for ignorance to step into,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shortening his life or causing difficulty in his life.
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  Speaker 1: We've always taught our sons to respect authority, to not
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  Speaker 1: run your mouth, not to talk back when a police
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  Speaker 1: or a teacher or any of those is talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the most important things we try to
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  Speaker 1: teach our sons do not have an encounter with the police.
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  Speaker 1: So it means abiding by the law, not speeding when
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  Speaker 1: you're driving down the highway. And we had always thought
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  Speaker 1: if we taught our boys be respectful, follow the rules,
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  Speaker 1: that they would always come home and George Floyd that
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  Speaker 1: video last year showed us that you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: be doing anything illegal, you don't have to be running,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to be talking back, and you could
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  Speaker 1: still lose your life based on someone else's perception of
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  Speaker 1: what they think a black man is. And that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: being a black man. And I think then you and
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  Speaker 1: and and at the end of the premier episode of
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  Speaker 1: the eighth season, they do the Fellas get around talking
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  Speaker 1: about you know, being pulled over being a black man
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  Speaker 1: in America. The reality is that you are raising a
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  Speaker 1: young black man in America and he's going to school.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about the school that he's going to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not in the environment, and how what makes you feel
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  Speaker 1: comfortable about him going because he has to feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: he's going, okay, but what also is making you feel
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable about the environment that he's going to. So the
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  Speaker 1: school is Lee University in Cleveland, Tennessee. Cleveland, Tennessee is
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  Speaker 1: a small town in Tennessee that's near Chattanooga. But I
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  Speaker 1: just remember that during the pandemic the school was closed.
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  Speaker 1: We drove up to Cleveland, Tennessee just to drive around
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  Speaker 1: the campus to see what it was like since he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the traditional tour. Was school open And I
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  Speaker 1: just remember as we're driving through this small town of
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland seeing all of the Confederate flags. So when I
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  Speaker 1: saw those, of course I became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has
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  Speaker 1: a Confederate monument which is walking. This is from the school,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a small school, majority white. It's a Christian school.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason we were willing to take the chance
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  Speaker 1: for him to go to the university. Number one, you
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  Speaker 1: just hope, you really hope that people who are claiming
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  Speaker 1: to be Christians somehow that God is touching their minds,
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  Speaker 1: their souls, their bodies to really live a Christian life.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, there were some other basketball players whom
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  Speaker 1: he had spoken with over the summer who had not
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  Speaker 1: had any racial encounters, and we're not having any difficult
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  Speaker 1: time on campus. Is the reason we decided that it
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  Speaker 1: would be okay for him to attend Lee University. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it is that this is part
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  Speaker 1: of marriage to medicine. This is a part of the
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  Speaker 1: lessons of life, lessons that are relatable to it. Because
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  Speaker 1: this that that storyline was relatable to me. My daughter was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, um a tennis phenom at sixteen, and so
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  Speaker 1: she was going out there playing. Then she blew out
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  Speaker 1: a knear nineteen and now she's in college and very
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  Speaker 1: happy for her. But the reality is that where can
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  Speaker 1: you send your Sunday He won't experience racism indirectly or directly,
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  Speaker 1: you feel me. So, so you're you're basically and you're
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  Speaker 1: and your husband basically saying, yes, we're uncomfortable, but this
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  Speaker 1: is life. You know. We hope we've raised them. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: talking like a parent that hopefully we raised it with
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  Speaker 1: the values like you told him. You know, if it's
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  Speaker 1: a thirty or five drift, thirty or five son, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a void ignorant for cop pulls you over
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  Speaker 1: tend to understand. World said yes, sir, no sir, till
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  Speaker 1: you get out the car. Get out the car. Don't
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  Speaker 1: we playing loud music unnecessarily? So these are the rules
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  Speaker 1: that we lived by because of the color of our skin.
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  Speaker 1: And like you said, all America, all of America, because
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  Speaker 1: it was involved and it was in the uproar, including
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  Speaker 1: white people when they finally saw and that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that we all were happy finally when you saw that
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  Speaker 1: on top of COVID. Because you are a legitimate doctor,
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  Speaker 1: how does that affect your practice and also your daily
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  Speaker 1: life when COVID came on top of it reality, because
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  Speaker 1: we all thought Kobe was gonna be a couple of months,
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  Speaker 1: we were turned to normal. It's not right. Working in
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  Speaker 1: the medical field during a pandemic has been an interesting thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, continually. I don't work in fear at all,
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  Speaker 1: but just trying to make sure that I stayed up
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  Speaker 1: to date and educated on this virus because it felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was changing. Things were changing in the medical
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  Speaker 1: field week by week early on, and just making sure
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  Speaker 1: that I updated my patients and encouraged them to stay safe.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have pregnantatitions during this time, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to see them sick. And sometimes the young
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  Speaker 1: people are a little harder to convince that the virus
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  Speaker 1: is real and deadly. Well, you know, isn't it when
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  Speaker 1: we all immortal, When at that age, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: get safe, we get up. You know, I should tell free,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I should get a flu. I go play
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  Speaker 1: a game of basketball, and they said, sweat it. Out
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  Speaker 1: of me, and so trying to sweat it out of
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  Speaker 1: me now because I'll be laying on the court doctor.
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  Speaker 1: You know. But the beauty of this show is that
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  Speaker 1: you have friends. You know, one of your friends, and
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  Speaker 1: this was one of the lead storylines of the opening season,
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  Speaker 1: was your friendship with Jackie. Twenty three is in And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just to let you know that in the
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  Speaker 1: in the opening episode, Jackie was constantly talking about getting
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  Speaker 1: back with you, talking about I just want to reconcile,
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  Speaker 1: and then they showed you constantly, never saying that they
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  Speaker 1: they but you know, I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is, and you know, and as a producer
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  Speaker 1: and an editor, I know they can play characters to
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  Speaker 1: develop storylines. And so this is a person you've known
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  Speaker 1: betweent three years. She's an original member of the show,
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  Speaker 1: along with yourself. Where do you go when you see
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  Speaker 1: these storylines being developed? And we're gonna get to Heavenly
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. But I want to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: friendship of Jackie and Simone m so I again, I
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  Speaker 1: come to reality TV as my authentic self. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to fake a friendship. I Am not going to
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  Speaker 1: pretend to make up unless my heart is really in it, right,
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  Speaker 1: And Jackie and I have known each other a very
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  Speaker 1: long time, and of all the cast on this show,
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  Speaker 1: she knows me the best. I know her the best,
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  Speaker 1: And I did not want to make up for TV's sake.
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  Speaker 1: I just wasn't interested either we were gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: genuine sit down conversation or not. But I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to make up just for TV's sake. And I'm just
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  Speaker 1: asking now, I don't know, I'm just asking, So what
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  Speaker 1: is makeup for TV sake versus having a genuine sit down?
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  Speaker 1: Would it be on camera or would it be off
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  Speaker 1: camera between you and jack It could be either one
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, because again, I'm going to express my real
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't matter whether a camera
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  Speaker 1: is rolling or not. When you say true to who
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  Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't matter whether a camera is present
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  Speaker 1: or not. Well, you're showing that. Now, you're showing that
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  Speaker 1: now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was a dentist, you know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all y'a about that a lot throughout the seasons, though
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  Speaker 1: we just said Dr Dannis. Even Anila came in cracking
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  Speaker 1: jokes jokes. She's a blogger, okay, gonna crack jokes on
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  Speaker 1: the dentist um. So how does she get in between
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  Speaker 1: the two of you? Guys? Did I miss that episode? Well? So,
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  Speaker 1: in actual in actuality, I don't think that heavenly came
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  Speaker 1: between me and Jackie. And that is how I felt
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  Speaker 1: last year. But in the pandemic, I spent more time
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  Speaker 1: at home. I was able to think about things and
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  Speaker 1: get my feelings in check, if you will, and basically
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  Speaker 1: I mean Heavily and I have gone back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: back and forth, getting along not getting along over the
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  Speaker 1: years since she started the show on season two. As
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  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, she hated me and Jackie when
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  Speaker 1: she started, we hated her. The feeling was mutual, but
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  Speaker 1: over the years we had all grown to become close friends.
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  Speaker 1: But Heaviley and I would get into it. One talk
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of months on in our camera, and
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  Speaker 1: Jackie always gave me her thoughts and opinions. She would
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  Speaker 1: tell me I think you shouldn't even be taking this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: Heavily saying too serious, you shouldn't be doing this, or
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  Speaker 1: you should be doing that, And she always talked to
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  Speaker 1: both of us. This time, my friend of twenty three
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  Speaker 1: years decided she didn't have any words on it because
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  Speaker 1: I guess she didn't want to hurt my feelings. But
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  Speaker 1: she knows me she had never been her tongue before,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that expression, cat got your tongue, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just leave you with the cash. Well, you know when
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  Speaker 1: y'all didn't have a sit down when she said that
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  Speaker 1: she was gonna be it was on camera that she
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to make a decision, she want to make it,
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  Speaker 1: and that then you took that very personal. And so
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  Speaker 1: I see now you know Dr Heavenly, who is a
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  Speaker 1: dentist by the way, is uh is reveling in this breakup.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's reveling and driving a wage between the
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  Speaker 1: relationship and personally, and I pertually I don't think Jackie
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  Speaker 1: sees that. Am I correcting assuming that I think Jackie
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  Speaker 1: is not eve or she's or she has developed a
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  Speaker 1: wall of stubbornness to say that she's not gonna be bothered.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think. I definitely think Jackie is aware
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  Speaker 1: of what Heavenly is doing. But Heavenly is also Jackie's bulldog, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so maybe that is just the strategy that you'd
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  Speaker 1: rather have this bulldog who defends you. Even on the
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  Speaker 1: days you're wrong, She's still defending you with An interesting
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  Speaker 1: So as a as a as an entrepreneur who start
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  Speaker 1: up because you represent you know, the fastest growing population
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship or African American females. And you are an
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: African American female, you are star, you are brand. Talk
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: about being a small business owner just when you started,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: but also now doing COVID nineteen. What I would talk
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: what I would recommend for anybody who is starting a business,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: doing as much research as you possibly can before you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: start your business. Know the industry you're going into. Know
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: some of the pitfalls of the industry you're going into.
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  Speaker 1: And or me, I was already practicing medicine before I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: opened up a business. You can't even imagine how hard
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it's going to be until you actually open those doors.
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  Speaker 1: But I do agree with you that you have to
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  Speaker 1: have an accountant who gives you advice regularly. And what
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  Speaker 1: I like to say is count all your pennies, look
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  Speaker 1: for your pennies, figure out ways when you're buying supplies
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  Speaker 1: that you could save money because you may be only
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: buying from this supplier, but then somebody over here has
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a cheaper Learn how to build relationships so that when
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you need help you can get help. You need a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: banking relationship, that relationship with an accountant. You need relationships
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: with people in the industry who are doing the exact
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: same thing you're doing, just to get advice on the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: pitfalls when they actually happened, how to get out of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: those pitfalls, and just know that no matter what happens,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you can always depend on yourself in business for yourself.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: There you go. Now, when one going closing question is
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: about you didn't plan on because we talked about budget,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you said, always count your pinions, know where every penny is.
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  Speaker 1: We did not think, and I'm saying I'm a business owner,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I did not see masking my budget. I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: hand sanitizing my budget. I didn't see working from home
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and my budget and telling medicine. I'm sure we'll picked
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: up strongly in your business. But like I said, you're
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: dealing with with you know O. B. G. Ryan profession,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So tell the medicine almost like what is that? So?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: How did that affect your business model? And also your employees?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: How did you work through that? Like I was able
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to do teleconferencing because I'm just dealing with graphics and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a production company, but you're in medicine. How did
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you deal with that? And how did your patients deal
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: with that? So definitely finding ppet you purchase and purchasing
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: ppe was an additional expense. But what I tell any
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: anybody who's in business for themselves, always save for a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: rainy day because if you have savings, when you run
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't be that big
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of a deal. So you either have the savings or
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you have a credit line with the bank available to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: help you in a in a financial need. But with staff,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I tried to stay calm and try to reassure them.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: For me with pregnant patients, I was not able to
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  Speaker 1: do all of the visits using tele medicine. Surely we
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: did some, but not all. And what I did was
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: we continue to come to the office. We shortened the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: office hours, and I continue to make payroll for the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: full forty hours a week. But again, just looking for
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: resources out there, there were a ton of resources available
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to small businesses. I applied for the P P P loan.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: My big bank didn't give it to me, so I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: went to my small bank. And again I have two banks.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I have the big bank, I have the small bank.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Nobody told me to do it that way. That is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just one of those life lessons that I learned early
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on in practice. And I've been in solo practice since
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  Speaker 1: two thousand four. So you learn things, and there are
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: always gonna be hiccups and speed bumps. You just have
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to learn something from every speed bump in the road. Well,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I gotta close, and I said, was my
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: last question, but I have to bring this up because
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: my wife is important in my life. You know, those
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: speed bumps. As you're talking about those speed bumps, you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: gotta turn to somebody for some truth and sometimes for
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: some advice. Sometimes that truth is not what you want
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to hear, but it also comes with good advice because
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: you of that person is going to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm leaving my question to your husband, who plays
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: an amazing support role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of yours. I've always been a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: fan of yours. And when you had that conversation with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: your son when he was shooting the basketball, I was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: over the roof with you because that was pure. That
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: was pure, honestly to me, you know, because it was
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: relatable to me, and uh and it and it and it,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and it was a seed that bore out of your
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: husband being there. Because African American young men need that male,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that male. Look how to treat women, Look how what
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you do in all these different situations. To talk about
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: your strong support group. You know my man, talk about
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: him right quick before we close it out. So Cecil
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and I have been married for twenty five years, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: he has definitely been a great sounding board. When I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: asked him about business advice and he loves to do research.
• 23:53
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• 24:00
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• 24:03
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• 24:08
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• 24:15
  Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able
• 24:19
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• 24:24
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• 24:27
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• 24:30
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  Speaker 1: Conversations with your host, Rashan McDonald. My next guest, I've
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  Speaker 1: known a very long time Dr Ian Smith. He's the first.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you a history on his books here
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  Speaker 1: first New York Times bestselling author of Cleaning Lean, The
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Clean twenty Shred, Super Shred, The Shred, Power Cleans, and
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  Speaker 1: The Blast to Sugar Out, which I recommended for my
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  Speaker 1: mama and she used it dearly until she passed away.
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  Speaker 1: As the host of the syndicated television show The Doctors,
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  Speaker 1: he has created two national health initiatives. I was involved
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  Speaker 1: in the first one fifty Million Challenge with Steve Harvey
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and Stay Farmed and the Makeover Miles. So I got
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  Speaker 1: great history, Dr Ian Smith and served two terms on
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the President's Council on Fitness, Sports and Nutrition. Dr n
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Smith the Here's to talk about his newest book, fast
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Burned The Power of Negative Energy Balance. This Marxist twentieth book,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: fast Burn was released on April thirteen. Checked this out
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and immediately his numerous best sellers hit list grew. The
• 29:02
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• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Please welcome back again, A dear friend and inspiration and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: uh and a real doctor by the way, doctor to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: money Making Comfortation. Dr Ian Smith, How you doing, my
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  Speaker 1: brother and Vershano great, great to join you. How you
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: feeling really good? Man? You just still look at Trie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: You're still looking at good you know. You know, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: guess I've been seeing all the way back to Jenny
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Jones days. Right. Yeah, it's been a long time. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I you know, I was saying to you before we
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: started the broadcast that you know, I'm getting old like
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: everybody else. However, I'm in the fight. I think that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in life and a fight in a good way, not
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a negative way. But you know, you can't just resign
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: yourself to things just happening. You have to say, I'm
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be convicted and determined um to make a way
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And so what I try to do
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: all the time is and I'm not always successful, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I try every day to be a better me when
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it comes to the physical aspect. You know, I work
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: out with a lot of weights. I try to eat better.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not perfect in my eating, but I try to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: eat better. Uh. And I think that if people follow
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: just that basic kind of idea that I'm going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: be better in my physical movement better and my nutritional intake.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I think people be happier and look better and feel
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: better when the thing about our relationship is that you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I got bad eating habits and so and people always say, man,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: but you don't look like you eat habits because I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: read his books. You know, I'm one of them. I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: one of them. I want them good and bad customers.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know, when when when it gets bad, Doc, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: go to your book. When it's when it's good, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: get off your book. You know what what I'm saying. But
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: but it allows me a system of of direction. And
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we're trying to talk about here,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: because so many people out there have health, health issues,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: they have weight issues because they don't have direction and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: also a direction that's uh. I think it's tied to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: common sense. And that's what I've always felt that your
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: books are tied to common sense. Correct. Yeah, you know
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because so many people will
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: say to me, well on Instagram or Facebook with dr Ian,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this, and I'm doing that, and I'm doing this.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: But the problem is it's not that people don't often
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: know what to do or how to do it. It's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that they don't have structure. Right. You gotta have structure.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: You just can't say I'm gonna eat better, but what
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm going to exercise better? What does
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that mean? And so I tell people all the time, yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: well you know, yeah, what you're doing what it sounds like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It sounds good, but it's not working well because we
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: need structures in our in our life, and with fast burn,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the structure is very simple. It's nine weeks um. It's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: based on affordable, regular, accessible food. You have to go
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to five different grocery stores to buy it. But it's realistic.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: That's the key. Rashan. A plan is not going to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: work for people if it's not sustainable and realistic. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: so I wrote this plan from the standpoint of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: use of What I mean by that, I mean I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: asked two thousand people in my Facebook group to try
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: out the original draft of the plan and they gave
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you their feedback. What they liked, but they didn't lie
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: would work. What didn't work? Uh, The average weight loss
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: was fifteen and seventeen pounds and nine weeks. And as
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: much as I helped them, they helped me because I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: realized there are certain ways to make it easier. So,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: for example, things that people took me complain about in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the program I took care of. You can have alcohol
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: on the program. There's pasta, there's bread, there's stay, there's pizza.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I mean all these things, uh that programs say you
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: cannot have. I said, you can still have it, but
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: let's do it in a way where we have in
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a healthier manner, but equally tasty. Right, you can't go
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: healthy and still not be tasty. So I try to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: do both and fast and fast burned. And I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that's why people like it. Well, it's it's gonna be
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: proved to be my favorite now because you know, as
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I stated earlier, I am not the best patient. You know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: if if if Dr his was my was my doctor officially, Rashan,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: come on that stop you really really really tripping that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But in your book you you allow me to. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: think eat in proportion, which is really always the key too,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and when you eat is the key as well. And
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's also knowing your body, because you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, because a lot of
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: people don't listen to their body. They don't listen to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the wady body when you're telling you, you know, because
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that's why I always heeds the story about people talking about,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: oh he looks so healthy, Well, I bet you if
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you don't went to a doctor. The doctor they ever
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: told me how to high blood pressure, high cholesterol level,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: talk about that whole process. Because your book is, like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I said, it's a true guide, but there are all
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: steps that they have to take to go along with
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: your book to be successful. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I think that. Um, what people have to understand is
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that these books are blueprints. Yes, folks, are not the Bible.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: This book says, this is a guide for you. And
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the reason why people really like fast Burn is because
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it's so customizable. Like when you think about it, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: no one wants to be dictated to what they have
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to eat every day, but they don't want to have options.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So there are options in the book. Every day, every
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: meal that has options to it. So you're vegan, vegetarian, paskeeterian, carnivore,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can make it work for you. So
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you have you have lots of options. Then the other
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: part of it is some people say, well, you know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a gym. I don't
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like to go to a gym. I said, no, chapter thirteen.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: These are all at home exercises you can do without
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a gym membership, without the need for machines. Thirty minutes,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: forty four or five days a week, and you know what,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you can break it up fifteen minutes in the morning,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: fifteen in the afternoon. So I think that people really
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: are looking for plans that are allowing them not just
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to diet rashan for the short term, but to make
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: lifestyle changes. That's why I'm interested. I'm interested in you
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: making a lifestyle change that you can live with. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: so do I want you to be perfect? No? Do
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I expect you to be perfect? Absolutely not. But let
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: me give an example. If you know you're going out
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to dinner, and you know you're going to a place
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have the healthiest of foods, I want you
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in your mind to say, you know what to night,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: We're eating at so and so restaurant where it's not
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of great choices. So for breakfast and lunch,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really good. I'm gonna really make sure
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that I make smart decisions. So when dinner time comes
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and I have whatever I'm gonna have, I don't feel guilty.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Number One and number two, it's not gonna really hurt
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: me because I ate so well early the day that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to me is the better way to live life. You
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: don't want to always be on a restricted, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: heavily specified program. I want you to do a fast
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: burn for nine weeks, then I want you to put
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: it on the shelf and say, okay, now I am
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: prepared in all the situations that come at me to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: make better decisions. Whether the better decision part comes into
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Your career has always been tied
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to I'm not gonna I'm lead a book a little
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: bit because your role as host of the Doctors, which
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: was a groundbreaking to me. Also it was groundbreaking because
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it happened during COVID and you are a real doctor.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: It affected African Americans overtly people of color over lead.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And so with that being said, your role as as
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: happy as we were because you came on my show,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we talked about it, what you're gonna do, but we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: all we all thought that COVID would kind of like
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: come and go, and now we see it's not gonna
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: go at all. It's kind of like going to be
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like the flu. We're gonna have seasonal uh COVID eighteen shots. Look,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: we talk two questions. The first question is coming into
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: perspective your role in what you had to play as
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the host of The Doctors and COVID eighteen. And then
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the long term would be my second of us living
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: with COVID. Yeah, two great questions. So the reason why
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I agreed to host the show this year was because
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: if you think back before this year, there was a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: lot of misinformation, a lot of you know, incredible discredible
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: information that was being disseminated from the White House on down,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and I thought like the country was confused and that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: doctors and scientists were not leading the conversation. If you're
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: in a health crisis, the doctors and scientists need to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: lead the discussion. If you're in a financial crisis, the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: economists need to need a discussion. I mean, this is
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: just how it works. And so I felt like we
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: had spent a year spinning our wheels listening to all
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: kinds of nonsense, and so this to me personally, it
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: was a great opportunity to be on a big show
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: with a big flat platform, to bring in experts to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: talk about the issues. And I also wanted to bring
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in diverse experts, because experts come in all shapes and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: sizes and all colors and background So I wanted to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: bring people from all walks of life and all experts
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: from all different voices to come in on the show.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: So that, to me, person was very important, and I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: think we did a great job of being able to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: communicate to the rest of the country all things related
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to COVID, whether it was vaccines, treatment, people who are
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: long haulers, how do you raise kids during COVID, how
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: do you date during COVID? All these topics were important
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and I think that when I look back at my career,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: this will have been a very important year because I
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: had some small say in shaping the conversation around COVID
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and and and dealing with COVID and also trying to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: get people on air to talk about it an incredible way. Now,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: when you look at the long term of COVID, however, uh,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: we're at We're at a very critical point here because
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: people who have not gotten the vaccine, a lot of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: them don't want to get the vaccine, and we need
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to still reach what's called herd immunity, which basically says
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that enough people have either gotten vaccinated or been infected,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that the vast majority of the population is immune to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: getting sick and infected again herd immunity. Now, there are
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: two ways to get to hurt immunity. You can get
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: there by vaccinating everybody. That's the fastest way to do it,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that's the less costly way to do as far as life.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: If you vaccinate everybody, we save lives. We get hurt immunity.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: But some people won't take the vaccine. So what does
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that mean? We can still return immunity. But what that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: means is the people who do not want to take
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the vaccine, eventually we'll get infected because the virus is
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: like the cold virus, It's just gonna stay there and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: so those who don't. So imagine a hundred people, imagine
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: eighty people get the vaccine. That means those eight people
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: are protected. Now you've got twenty people. Okay, these twenty
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: people who do not want the vaccine, the virus is
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: gonna circulate within them. And then once you get infected,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: then you will have some type of immunity. That's what happens, right,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: They'll get infected, If they survive, they will have some immunity.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: We don't know how long that immunity lasts. We don't
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: know how long, how good it is. But they will
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: have some immunity. But what about the people who get
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it and will die from So you're gonna reach her
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: immunity one way or the other. I just think we
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: should do it without losing a lot more loss of life. Well,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: we're all losing lives. And I'm gonna tell you I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: never took the flu vaccine. I have been. I've told
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: about my visor to both of my vaccination shots. In
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the time of the man, I feel comfortable. It kind
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of gave me my life back. I'm not gonna lie
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to you doctors. I was like, you know, I was
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: a high degree. I was paring or I'm not gonna
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: lie to you. First, when the first hit, I didn't
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: know how to go out the store. Let loan Phillip
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: put gas in my car. What do I touch? What
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I don't touch? What? How well? How do I do
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: touch with string? Will when they get back in the car?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Door A touch the door, doll went open? The door,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the door went open, my car door. So so when
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I got fascinated, I developed a I still wear my
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: mask when I go out in public. You know, I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: sit down, I take it off from a eating but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I really I think that I really want you to
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: tell my um my audience about that comfort zone that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you would get. And I've said it many times, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I would just let you know this man, how important
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you are. Sometimes you know, you do stuffing on the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: regular basis. Dr Smith, there are no other black voices,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: of voices of your color on TV talking to us.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I'mderstand that now you know there's some great for Dr
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Varci is great. Dr George great, I love him, go
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he's great, but he's not you. And so and that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: important that you understand that because you just doing your job,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: You're you're brillied at what you do. You you're saving
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: lives on the regular basis. Sometimes you don't know that
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you are seven. You just somethings, just doing your job
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: like any doctor will do. When you go into the hospital,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel your hospitals is the TV. Your hospital
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: is social media. Your hospital is a public medium, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: so you don't immediately see the results because you're not
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: there checking on us once a week, or we're not
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: coming in and and checking on with you. But your voice
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: as an African American talking to us. It's so important
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that at this point for me to get you back
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on my show, not only to promote your incredible book,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: because you've never failed me with your diet planes. I've
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: used them many times. And I've told you many times
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: when the book that I recommend my mother to use
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: your book and used just roll. I said, yes, he's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: using it right now. Okay, and happen. And so what
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: is your role is? And I am I putting too
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: much on your plate? No, no, you're not. You know it. Actually,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: While I am happy on one hand, UM to hear
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you being laudatory and complimentary about what I do and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's impact on people, it's also very sad to me.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It's sad to me because there are a lot of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: other undiscovered doctor Ian's out there who are going to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be better than me at what I do, who are
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: equally educated, equally articulate, equally informative, and equally helpful. Uh.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: And they're out there, brothers and sisters. Uh. And you
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: know it's lonely being the only UM and it shouldn't
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: be that way. We need to have more of our
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: young brothers and sisters be given the opportunity not to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: become dr even to be better than Dr Ian. Uh.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll accept that I'm a pioneer in a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: way and I but my hope is I've paved away
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: for more. I'm not one of those people who become
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: successful and then don't turn around, uh and and not
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: try to help other people to get through the gates.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I want as many of us to get through the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: gates as possible. And I'm just hoping that in this,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: in this this time, this moment of racial awakening and awareness,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that people will reevaluate all aspects of our society and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: look at TV and look at the people who we
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: bring on to talk about education and law and politics
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and medicine, and realize we gotta have diverse voices talking.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It just can't be the same people all the time.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So while I've been very blessed to have my platform,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and you guys invite me always to be on your platforms,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of younger brothers and sisters who
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: can do the same thing, and I want them to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: have a chance. As I said to you before the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: show started, listen, man, I'm getting older. I've been doing
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: this for almost twenty five years. This time for me
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to go out and play more golf and be with
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: my family, and I still write books, but but I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: want to leave the stage and hand it off to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: somebody else. Um. But people who are in charge of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: who gets on the stage need to have the awareness,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: um and the open mindedness to bring others in. And
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that's that's what's important to me, Rashan, is that other
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: people get a chance to voice. I am not uniquely intelligent.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: There are other intelligent people who have gone to eight schools,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: who have great information, who can say the same thing,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: if not saying in a better way than I said.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I want them to have a voice and have an artist.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping, um that when people look back on
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: my career, they will say not how many bestsellers that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I have in books, but that they'll say, you know what,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith was a pioneer, and he opened the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: doors for all these people to be able to come
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: out and talk to the world, uh and represent us
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: as African Americans and a respectful, proud um and professional manner. Okay, cool,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you know, as they said, you know you said some
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: great things, sir, thank you. You know, you know you know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta as rebuttle on you. Those
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: books that you write are important because you're in African American.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And guess what books are a number one because they
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: were bought by black people. So that means that you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: have you have, you have cleared the way as a
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: pioneer for people to respect medical advice, die advice, life
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: advice from a person that doesn't look like that. That's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: why you're important. That's why I can't push you aside
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: as you say, I'm ready to go play golf, spend
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: time kind all that. That's what vacations are far. Okay,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: we're talking about We're talking about legacy creates a path.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about when I'm
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: in trouble, I need my voice. You know, when I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: was growing up man before the foul cheese and all
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the world. Dr Welby m D. You know my man,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: all right, And so these are the things that we
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: grow up on. I'm just saying is that you have
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: become an institution. And I'm just telling you just slow down, doc, okay,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and realized be appreciated with what I'm saying about. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: know you are. I know men, you go way back,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: but twenty five years is just twenty five years now? Uh? Now,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: if you come on the show with show and come
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: on the show with the Pope barely gray beard and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you're looking, I'm saying it might be our last interview
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: with Dr Smith. He looked back. Can you find his
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: twin brothers? Does the Twain brother look like that twin brothers?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: We really got problems. But you're not doing that. You're
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: stabilizing yourself. And this is why I said you can't
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: go away because see now we're battling age, because see
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: what happens is people stop dreaming when they hit a
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: certain age. They started fifty go oh, I can't do
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that sixth decade. See I know it's seventy eight and eighty.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: You're still gonna be Dr Ian Smith. We might be
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: on book thirty by the end, you might be you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be on another council. You're still telling us
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the direction. And the reason I look at you this way,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the reason I have to talk to you is this way.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna have a comment about this,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and I wanted is that the next battle where you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: at right now is letting people know age should not
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: define your dream. Am I correct about that? Let me
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: tell you something uh statement I came up with recently
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that I'm starting to like, and I say it more
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and more. Even if you live to be a hundred,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: life is still short. And by that I mean is
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: that you are never too old uh to dream, to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: chase dreams, to deform new dreams. Think about it. Life
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: is so short you should spend the entirety of your
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: life in the pursuit of fun and happiness and your dreams.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And it's not just about checking things off of a list,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, because when I check some awful list,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I add something else because that is what keeps me going.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You want to you want to keep going. So I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: agree with you that you know, as we age, we
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: tend to think, well, you know it's a different season
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of your life. Well, yeah, life is seasons. But that
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: does not mean, Rashan, that you stop the pursuit, that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you stop the dreaming, that you stopped looking up at
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the stars and thinking and wondering those things I think
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: are the true texture and magic and beauty of our life.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely now the book fast Burn Let's Listen Now week
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: program in the program and broken down into the three parts.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about ignition into mission and acceleration. Now,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: before we go there, when you say that the power
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of negative energy balance, what exactly does that mean? Yeah,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: before I explain that, let me just say two people listening,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: go to my Facebook group. We've got twelve thousand people
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: doing fast burned together. The Facebook group's name is called
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: fast burn Challenge fast burn Challenge, and if you're not
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, you can do it through my Instagram which
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: is at dr Ian Smith spell the Doctor out I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: A and Smith. Let me explain to the subtitle the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: power of negative energy balance in life, we want positive energy.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's calm ex spiritual energy. This is different. This is
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: food energy. So food, when we say calories in the food,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that's measurement of food. Energy in the food. Food is energy.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And so when you eat more calories than you burn
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: off for sean, you end up having what's called positive
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: energy balance. You have more calories than you burned off.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: The body has to do something with that energy. Energy
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: just doesn't disappear. That's not how it works. What does
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the body do with that extra energy? It stores it
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: as fat. Fat is the storage form of energy. Okay,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: why do bears uh you know, gouge uh sorry, gorge
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: on food before winter comes, before hibernation. They do that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: because they're eating, eating, eating, eating, and they're getting fatter
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and fatter and fatter the blubber because they're gonna eat
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that blubber during the winter when their food source is
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: very scarce. Well, same thing with our body. Our body
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: will take the extra energy and put it as fat.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Now that's positive energy balance. What you want to be, however,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: is the negative energy value then bounced just the opposite,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: so and fast burn. You're still gonna have all your
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: meals and all your snacks, However, the amount of energy
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you get from them will not be enough to meet
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the demands of your body's energy needs. So your body
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: has to find the energy from somewhere. It says, where
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: do I go to get energy? Oh? There I go.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: It goes into the fat stores. It takes the fat,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: it melts it or breaks it down, it converts it
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: into fuel that your body can use. So when you're
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: in a negative energy balance state, that is when you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: drive into those fat stores and break that fat down.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm fast burned. Not only are people
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: losing fifteen and seventeen pounds on average and nine weeks.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: But they're noticing six seven eight inches gone around their
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: mid section because the book is putting them into this
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: negative energy balanced state. Now that's that's great. Now, But
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you broke the book down into three parts, and we
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: know it's nine weeks, it's four one week that is
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the middle week is one and it's for the closest eye.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: It's called ignition, intermission, and acceleration. Why are these keywords
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: in the whole process of the nine week diet program. Well,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: because the idea is imagining the analogy of a car.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: So the first four weeks are the ignition. You're just starting,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you're just getting going, and so people slowly make changes.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Remember this is not about being a diet this is
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: about teaching you lifestyle changes. So people for the first
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: four weeks are just learning how to eat differently, how
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: to move differently. So it slowly takes you in there
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: so that it sticks. When you do things too fast
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and too dramatic, people tend not to hold onto it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: But I slowly do it for the first four weeks,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and by the way, people lose about of their total
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: weight loss for the nine weeks in those first four
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: weeks right then the middle is intermission. It is what
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: it says. It's a break. You take a week, you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: relax a little bit, reassess where things are, trying to
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: put into practice some things you've learned over the first
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: four weeks, and you're good to go. Now. The last
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: four weeks is acceleration, pedal to the metal. That's what
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: we're really driving into our fat stores, really melting that fat,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: really losing the weight, really getting into that that nice
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: sculpted look, that change in appearance, and the change and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: how we feel situation, and so that's what the acceleration is.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Those are the nine weeks. If you hit your target,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you put the book up, and now you learn how
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to make the right decisions. If you haven't hit your target,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: you do another cycle until you need to get until
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: you've gotten all the way off that you wanted. But
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that is how the built the book is built. Well,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: this is your twenty book. I just gotta ask this question,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: what have you learned in each book? Because each point
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: has a different take, a different chemical makeup, of different
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  Speaker 1: of knowledge that you're providing us about our bodies. What
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  Speaker 1: I learned that number one, that people are able to
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  Speaker 1: all about out that watching living the dream, watching him grow,
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  Speaker 1: and I was so excited when they first booked him
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  Speaker 1: on the show. On this new show, flat Bush Misdemeanor.
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  Speaker 1: This Aaron on Showtime. I said, no, no, no, no no,
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  Speaker 1: I got to see the episode before I interview him,
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  Speaker 1: Lord and Mercy. I'm glad. I wait, I'm glad I
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  Speaker 1: pushed forward before he is breaking out funny. But see,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: here's the cool thing, because I gotta give his credit,
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  Speaker 1: because I just want to give him from love before
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  Speaker 1: we get started. Because his name is Hassan Johnson. Hassan
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  Speaker 1: has been seen in many rows from the Wire Brooklyn Finals.
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  Speaker 1: Now hear what I'm saying that that has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with funny them two roles. That has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with being a comedian. He recently wrapped a recurrent
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  Speaker 1: role and they hit ABC Drama for Life. No comedy there, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: just setting you up for where we're going with this
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  Speaker 1: journey with her soup. But he's recently seen in the
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  Speaker 1: You might have saw him in Top Five, Okay. Now
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  Speaker 1: he's in this new show, flat Bush Misdemeanor, which premiers
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  Speaker 1: May twenty three at ten thirty pm on Eastern Standard
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  Speaker 1: Time and on Showtime. You know his characters drew a bold,
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  Speaker 1: direct man who's extremely protective of his loved one, in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: particularly his niece. His The man is coming comflict with
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: his livelihood of both Kevin and my man. Damn them
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: two brothers. They lead character, they wrote it, they directed,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: they executive produced the whole series. Are fantastic. Please work
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: with the money, make conversation for the first time, the
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  Speaker 1: very funny I'm gonna say, y'all, the very funny and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: talented Hassan Johnson, how you knowing man? They want to introduction.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, ras Sean. I'm glad they definitely showed you
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  Speaker 1: the episode first man. You know, the bonus says, because
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you know I wanted the book, you too, that's a
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  Speaker 1: pot And I went, hold on, he got a new
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: show because you know, because I hate coming on there
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: talking about something I don't know nothing about, and you
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: know it would be just a lot of air hot
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: air getting blown around. I understand. Yeah, And also I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: respected with you'all do the don't want me coming on
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the show, just revealing the pallet and don't matter nobody watches.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: We want mena tell you all this. We're gonna talk
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: in like you know in evergreen term generic terms about
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the pilot, but the pilot his historical and this boy
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  Speaker 1: right here, this ball right here I'm talking to right here,
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  Speaker 1: is uh he played. He stayed in the little genre
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  Speaker 1: little thug look thugging, you know, but boy, he funny
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: man talk about man. Let's talk about the series, and
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna go back to when I first encountered
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you on the wire. And it's been a journeyman long
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: journey of excellent opportunities. But you can get, like it says,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: stereotyped into certain roles and we won't talk about you
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: coming out of that and and just being uh, just
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: super funny. I'm hoping this is the character that you're doing.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: It becomes a hit serious, so you can really really
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: show people your range. Talk about flash bush misdemeanor and
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  Speaker 1: your character Drew, well, she drew Uncle Drew. As you'll
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: get to know, he is the uncle to the little
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: girls ain't and not so little girls ain't on this
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: show because she had a mean punch boy. So anyway,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: uncle Drew bring I like to say this balance to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: an array of this like dysfunctional characters, right because then
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: while he's so overprotective of Zana, he's this tough guy
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that's put the center. Tough god, mean god. He here
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: is a fairness in him that that we're gonna explore that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he encounters Kevin again
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and they start to appreciate the fairness that is who
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: who Drew is. But he brings this this balance to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: this dysfunction, and then vary Lie his own dysfunction because
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: he's so over protective of Zana and he's about his education.
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  Speaker 1: And you'll get to discover why. Well, you know, the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: beauty of the characters is written by Kevin and Dan.
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  Speaker 1: You know it really Uh, it's it's a it's it's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: shot a certain way. The comedy is real. You know
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: if they say street like what they say the N word,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you know they right, they go there with the with
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the with the regular vernacular, you know, sagging pains. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's the look of the street. And it's enjoyable because
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of the fact that I was not offended by anything
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I saw. I felt it was some of the things
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: were very relatable. But then the characters. You love the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: characters and you're engaged by the realness of it. Now
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: your characters real. Now let's talk about you know that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the character Drew uncle Drew. Now, I it was as
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: a scene and it kind of reminded me and training day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a training date moment. Remember when he
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  Speaker 1: was about to do homeboard bad in the in the
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  Speaker 1: in the bathtub and then it came around and found
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  Speaker 1: out he saved my niece. That was a train You're
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a good one, Rashaun. So I'm really glad watching because
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: in the moment in time and on the day up,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not even understanding or putting the correlation with that
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  Speaker 1: scene with that that's exactly what that was. That was
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: training down. But I guess what, I wasn't mad at
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: it because I was like, we're doing a comedy here,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and I was affacing. It wasn't such an a parody
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: where you like you just understood, like you know what,
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  Speaker 1: that's the same you saw the parallel order because because
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  Speaker 1: believe me, it wasn't funny. It wasn't even close to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: being funny. And training day, but yeah, here it was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was followed out my chair. I was going,
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  Speaker 1: this boy food, this is ignorant. Then you then your
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  Speaker 1: other boy. All he do is play video game in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the right and then the other boy. He just opened
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: the door, laid anybody in, you know sebody. So so
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you you got your niece in there, she popping boomerang
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: photos on and you get to the theater. Body man,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: is that this is just that setting because Kevin is
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: a delivery man, Dane is a school teacher, if you
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: want to call it. Because Kevin ain't really a good
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: delivery man and Dad is not really a good school teacher.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: He ain't neither one of them, right and so and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: so that's what we have been laughing about. This series
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: of premiers on Showtime. It's called Flatbush. Mr Meet Him
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  Speaker 1: starts Man. I would say stars by Man her Son
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  Speaker 1: Johnson because he's a pivovogual character, because he's a community character.
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  Speaker 1: He's in the neighborhood. He's that guy that you know
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: if he walks by you, by you you know, you
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  Speaker 1: probably clutch your bag if you if you goes by
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  Speaker 1: your car, don You're probably push press lock on your door.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're going this door. You might see him
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  Speaker 1: and went back back out the door, you know. But
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: all those things because you got that look man. But
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: in the end, you have a heart when you get
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the main thing. He has a heart. Like I said,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: there's a level of fanness that comes with Nut Drew.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You what you see is what you get. He you know,
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  Speaker 1: he wears hard on his sleeve. You're not gonna get
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: no b as. You ain't gonna sugar coat and water
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  Speaker 1: nothing down for you. And that's what you could appreciate.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: And that's what you see. The characters Dan and Kevin,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: they start to appreciate that. I think about Drew more
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: than anything because everything and everywhere else and so if
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  Speaker 1: he had wish washy and they're surroundings, they're so uncertain
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: he did these uncertain characters that they could appreciate that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Drew is soul, you know, just add of me. Well,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I think I think let's let's just be real about
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: that character, because good writing has a way of telling
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: a person's role, and your role is about rules. You know.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: It's like we all have rules. You know, Like I said, somebody,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the speeding of it might be thirty five miles now
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you drive forward it, but it's thirty five miles now,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: and that's you. You know what I'm saying. If you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: make a mistake, you hold people accountable for that. Mistake
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: based on Drew Uncle Drew's rules. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: If you respect the rules, you're gonna walk out of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the house a lot. Respect the rule. You might walk
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: out of the house. He kind of alive, but you're
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: gonna remember you broke that rule, right exactly. There you go.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a learning lesson and that's what I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: love about it. So but then again, we talked a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: little bit off air before we got on there because
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: you can stereotype, you know, people, people see your photo.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play a thug. Oh, he's gonna play a criminal,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: or he can play this. And you know, and I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: first fell in love with your acting man way back
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: on the Wire, which was to the novel. When you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: look at all the people, man, they were casting that serious.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Oh y'all working, Oh y'all doing big things. Man, through
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the grace of God. That's right, though, you know what
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so you said, why with that serious,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: so brilliant the cast? You now you get to understand
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: why that, see, because that's the favorite. When we were
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: shooting the Wire, we don't know we're making history, not
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: not not not you. I swear to God, any one
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: of us telling you that we knew that show was
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be a head, we'd be talking about it double
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the time later than it was on. Right, you couldn't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: have pay no no one. I'd say they delned if
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: they said that they knew that We didn't know, you
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean that it was the writing that cast.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Now you start to understand as everyone's careers, Blosslman came
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: into fruition that no wonder that that was such a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: great show. Absolutely, there's your character with way we Bay.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: That's right, he's steal. In my mind, he's two characters
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: state of my you know, stringer bowl and Bay. Alright, alright,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: string strings. But when he got killed, I was hurt.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, he know he went out
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: like oh so. But when you look at that, that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: that was that was really your first really m consistent
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: acting role, you know, like sure, yes, that was my
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: first recurring role on the television show for sure. Everything
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: else before that was either a one off in the film,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like a co star role or a co
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: star you absidy, Right, So let's let's talk about that.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: When you when you get that opportunity to you finally
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: because you work hard for these opportunities and then you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: trying to get that regular check and you know, like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and and so you're on all these challenges people because
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: all you guys were young stars at the time, young
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: young up and comers. I'm gonna say that word up
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  Speaker 1: in conners because we can turn any streaming network, any movie,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: any network television show, and one of you guys are
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: on it, what I'm saying, and some of them two
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: or three y'all in the same series. Yeah, let's not
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: play with you. I mean, I don't just popped up
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: in a few shows or you know, movies with my
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: fellow cast meet from the show. Yeah, we don't go
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: on skate now. So so with that being said, what
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: were your thoughts man when you when you when you
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: were brought on the Wire? Was it just a paycheck
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: or was it just hey man, finally and finally seeing
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: my craft being appreciated, my skills being appreciated, talk to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: us about that. I think it was a mixture of both,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: but overall and ultimately it was my my my craft
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: being appreciated because I remember audition and right auditioning for
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the Wire was pre notin eleven. Then we shot postion
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: on the Levin. So you gotta understand that a lot
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: goes on in between the time that it was first
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: very introduced to me and then it came into reality,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: right because the world stopped. The world stopped in between
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: that time and then resumed again, and I had to
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: come back with that energy. And I got the call back.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like why. I almost didn't even remember what it was,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: but Sham like, oh that show, okay, let's go. I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: got got back you focused. I went out there Alexa
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Photos Office, our audition. I remember now in the middle
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of the audition, I'm doing my thing right, and the
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  Speaker 1: creator it was David Simon in there, and then it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: was Clauk Johnson, who was one of the director for
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the pilot and a few of the first season episodes.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: You know from COMMI Side Life on the Street, Clark Johnson,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: O g pick up the Clark john One of them
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  Speaker 1: leaned over to the other one in the audition, Rashawn,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: and said, we bay. So that's when that was my
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: first incland nation of something like tangible because I'm auditioning
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: for DiAngelo, by the way, right, So I don't know
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: if anybody could even imagine that because Larry Gilliat did
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: such a phenomenal job. When that that, who could imagine
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: me playing DeAngelo with him doing you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So when they said that, I kind of lost my
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  Speaker 1: beat for a minute, but then I got back on.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I finished up, But that lingered on with me for
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: some reason until I got that call from my agent
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: that I booked it, like who is this? We make
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Cavic And then even then I still didn't know because
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: they said, oh, we made here. He'll be around for
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: two or three episodes and you already know the rest.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: You know, Let's let's talk about you, man, because really,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you know, bringing you on the show man because a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, uh, you do interviews, they
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: don't give a chance to tell your story, get to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: tell the journey. And this is about my many conversations
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: about that journey because so many people need to hear that.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: You know, like I said, you took something that was
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: short and then you turned it into a career. And
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that's really what's happening because you you know, it's like
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: it's like a good like let's gonna say that Chicago Bulls.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: If you made the Chicago bulls. Guess when you're a champion,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: all right, You when we look at it back now,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: we didn't realize, you know, the last dance shoulders the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: greatness of the Chicago Bulls Run. Now when we look
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: back the hy you go, wow, look at all those
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: people who came out of the wire. So really when
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: you look at her, Sorry, you were being pushed by
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the best every day. Talk to us about that's a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: that's a that that's surrounding, Talk about the rehearsals, talk
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: about the you know, being pushed and being mentored as
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: well to be your best during that time. I mean,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you're Shaun, one of the greatest experiences of my life.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: We're talking about when dupis son, your son, Lance Reddy,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Claude Peters. I mean, it keeps going with Joe John
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: done Ma and uh Andre boy your Michael K. Williams.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just it's just it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: goes down the rabbit hole so crazy. And then whether
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you knew who those people were or not, by the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: end of the day's rat you knew who they was.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying to Michael Kay, Well, come
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: on now, if you didn't know now you know. And
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: so that's when I knew I was being brought with
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the best and I said, oh, okay, this is this
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: is turning into something. Now I can see where this
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: is really going. Now I have a career in a yeah,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: that uncertainty with you know, being rejected. I mean, I'm
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: in a line of work where I get rejected or
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: a living. People don't really understand what that feel like.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: You go home after these auditions and you're not the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: best man right right right, and then because you know
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's what it really is, because rejection
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: is so high in Hollywood. You know, this is just
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: imagine just going on auditions, auditions, auditions just didn't gonna
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: job interviews, job interview, job interviews, and then they're just
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: telling you you're not the one based on you and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: you're not the one, and you know you are. But
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: then you gotta eat that. You have to accept that,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: dig down, regroup, re van, and say I'm gonna come
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: out and do better. Like listen, for instance, I'm gonna
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: tell you this is what happened for me. This is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: how I learned the code. With this rejection, I figured
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: it like this, the more or this is you going
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: on the better your chances, you're booking something, right, So
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: as long as you're going on auditions, you're working, you're
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: shopping in your blade, you're getting better, trust me, right,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: and then and then it's supposed to be fun. But
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: then when you don't get the job, I mean, you know,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: there's no gratification and you're like, what's so fun about that?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: But what this is what I did for myself. I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: built the system up that for every ten auditions, I'm
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: gonna get one, that one, that temper sent ratio out
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: of ten, I'm gonna get one. I was able to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: live and come to grips and terms with that. And
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: it was happening every eight, every six, and then lower
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: and lower and lower every other audition our book a roll.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: And then that's when you start to you elevate in
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: your mind, and then you start to believe in yourself
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: because it's a relief system you got. You have to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: have to keep going. Wow, So how did you get
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: into acting? Let's get that outfre let's hear the fans
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: here about that. How did how did Hasan Johnson get
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: into acting? Oh Man all praise due to Spike Lee
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  Speaker 1: low to save your spightly love. He had an open
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  Speaker 1: call for a movie called Clockers, and a girl at
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: school dared me to go to the open audition because
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: I was just this like boisterous young boy. I played ball.
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  Speaker 1: I played football. I thought I was gonna be a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: ball up and I was pretty smart, you know. I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: was in the academic classes, like the student athlete whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody tried to get me to be more proactive
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: with the academic stuff, you know, the glee club, the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: African Culture Club, the math club. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it. I just wanted to play ball, and you
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: know that's it. So she did me because I always
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: said I wanted to be on television. Oh well, why
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: don't you go to this spight me ord, mr, I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: want to be on TV. And dared me in front
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: of like the whole lunch room. Right, I'm holding court
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: at lunch doing what I do, and she dared me
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: in front. So I did one of those all right,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: who's going with me? And then everybody did one of
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: these here and I went. It was like the dare
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I went. I got up that Saturday it was poured
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: down rain and it was in hall and at the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: school he had at a public school in Hall and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I went up theory Sean and the rest is history.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I went to one audition turning the seven callbacks, and
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  Speaker 1: I got a principal role in Spike lee film thirty
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: million dollar Budget Out the Gate, Love It, Love It. Now.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Now we're making the transition. Top five. You know that
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: that I think Top five was the first time I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: saw you in funny scenarios. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: But you yeah, I'll say that was the first. It
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: might be something we're missing before that, but let's just
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: say with that. You know, this is Rashawn's career path
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: for HASA. You know what I'm saying, I'm tracking. I'm tracking,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you know. So top five, Top five was was the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: one for me. Just started looking at you because because
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I always, like, you know, I've been fortunate in Hollywood,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: the cast a lot of people, you know, to see
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: African American talent get pigeonholes. And when I saw you
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: in Top five, but you were still being yourself, but
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: the but the spin on your words were funny. I said,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: this guy is funny. So talk about that experience, and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna go to the last o G with
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Tracy and Tiffany Hatters where you really started showing your
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: comedy chops right and and and and Top five birth
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Meet even being able to have an opportunity and a
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: shot to get on Last O G with Tracy Activity
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: which was a blessing as well. But it all started
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: with you know, me telling my uh my manager, Adam
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Adam Robinson, like, you know, I gotta get out of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: this this pigeonhole that seemingly a pigeon hole, it's not
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: quite one. Because Adam used to always say, how's time,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: come on now? If you do something good, that's what
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: they call you for your great at what you do.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: That's not your fault. You can't beat yourself down about that.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: So if it's time to be the thug and this
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: you know, depending on what's going on and what the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: criteria is, then go out and be the best damn
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: thug you can be. Ain't nothing wrong with it. And
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: then um, I said, you all right, until we get
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: to that bridge and we could cross that bridge into
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the light or heart and funny stuff, that's what we're
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: gonna do. So what happens is when Top five comes along,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: it's this character that's kind of just played meant to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: play be played straight. And and and in the world
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: of all these comedians and funny people, naturally funny people
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: because you know, when Jay Farrell talk, he's just funny.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: But Sherry Sfard talk, she's just funny. When trades Me talk,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: that just funny. You know, Chris, when they talk, they're
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: just funny. That tonality, that dick chance delivery is just funny.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: So they ain't gotta do much because they're established, you
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: know that. But then here I go. So I'm not
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: gonna go above and beyond either my best My best
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: bet is to stand my lane and go straight. And
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: that's what I did because I was fortunate enough to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: get I was privy to some info and their casting process.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: That's a hospital. Will say no names, but it was
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes came through here, a few heavy heaters.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't giving it up like you was doing it.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave it at that, right, right, right,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: And it was understood, got to be explained, right, absolutely,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about. Over tell you a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: couple of things about your manager, your managers, right, And
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: you were right because if you don't fight for change, Hussan,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: then people will settle for what you get. And by fighting,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you know, let's talking what we're talking to. Anybody who's
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: watching the show and listen to the show. Your brand,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: because you have a brand and you fought for you know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. It's like, you know, it's like this,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: because you have a nice house, why can't you ask
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: for a bigger house, a better car, or more groceries
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. People like, well you got food in refrigerator.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I want more And that's how I want more, right,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not content And and so that push enabled this
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now because when you got on
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: to the last O g and like I said, man,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: you know I really went he funny man. But I'm
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: gonna just tell you about your funny Hussan. You know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: like you said, you mentioned you know Sherry Shepard, Tracy Ferrell,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: you mentioned of course Chris Rock. They have built a legacy. There's,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: like I always tell people, stand up comedy just like math.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: If you know what two plus two equal fourth, then
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: you know how to get there. Your style of comedy
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: is that you're just natural. But you don't even understand
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: you funny, and I think that's you know what I'm saying,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: that's the gift because all those people have walked on
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: made them laugh. And so you are just one of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: those guys who just naturally funny. If you get around
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: your family, you crack them up. I don't give it you.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Your family go ico you, but see what a comedian
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: has done. He's taking his funny from in front of
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: his family to strangers. And so because you've not done that,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: it questions your ability. For Brother. In the last o
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: g that stepped you up, and then you went back
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: to the life for life on ABC. Nice check. Wasn't
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: supposed to be funny. You're supposed to be who you
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: supposed to be incarcerated. Then in back of your mind
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: you set these templates, templates or being able to do
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: something more than just be a stereotypical black thug. The
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Flatbush Mr Meaner comes along, tell us about that whole process.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I know we talked about it earlier, but I gotta
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: close the show because brother, I can't I can't wait
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: to ei. This is what it is. The Sean, This
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: like you said earlier, this is the most tangible opportunity
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to really show my range because then you're gonna see
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the first episode. You got
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: eight nine more to you got eight nine more and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: they let me go. Man, I'm telling you Kevin and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Dan Man that the two of the greatest guys around
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: right now that they are soon to leave a deep
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: footprint in this game. I'm telling you what this one
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: and it's all there for you and they and they
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: really let me go. They just let me go like
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: how they tell a box and let your hands go
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: right right, right right right. Yeah, that's the best, the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: best analyty with this character I could come up with.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be in for it's a roller.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: There's so much emotion because you see here you talking
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: about this this comedic stuff, this funny stuff. But then
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be so emotional. You're gonna be stressed out
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit, right well, you know the thing about it,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: but in a in a good way. Because Kevin's life
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: is stressed. Its stressed because and he's relatable. Here's a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: guy that their lives are not moving forward, y'all. I'm
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be honest with their lives are in a stand still.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: They got jobs that don't have career opportunities. They don't
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: even see the career in the opportunity. All they are
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: trying to do is get by. And I think we
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people who are just trying to
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: get by. That's why their characters are relatable. But what
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: happens is when they try to move ahead and they
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: start making mistakes, and that's when they wrote the mistakes
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: start to come in. That makes you so humanizes everything
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: because the way I can, I can say this the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: way Kevin encounters Uncle Drew as a delivery and when
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: he comes into his place, he makes a mistake. The
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: consequence stuff that mistake drives the first episode and the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: long term relationship. Am I right? Yes, it does that
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: one mistake And you know I always say, Rashaan in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: real life, I always tell people you can't be upset
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: about what is and what's not at the moment in time,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: because what you have to realize is every decision you
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: made from out the wound to this day right now
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: and in May, is that every direct decision led you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: the way you are, whether you're currently happy, sad, whatever
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: the case says, right et cetera. Every decision you may
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: lead you up to right now, and guess what is
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: a beautiful right now? He's I'm telling man. The blessing
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: in this interview, man, was that I'm always been a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: fan of Hussal. I've always been a fan. And then
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: and then going to showtime say I want to interview
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: my bar but I got to see the pilot. I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: saw the pilot, Man, I am recommended. I'm mad because
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: it's several weeks away before it premieres, so no listen.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: But you made my whole month the rest of my
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: year is sean, because you know, we we don't know
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: what we're in for. So you're telling me it's rest
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: assurance that we're doing something right. I'm changing herself. I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I you know, I ain't got time to be lying
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: to you, okay, brother yo, I'm just saying like that.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: It's funny. Okay. They are straight funny, man, and you
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: and you deliver it on a high level of opportunity
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: because you're a regular guy. Man started out on a dare,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: but you saw it through. And that's what people understand
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: is that is that whether you see it through, you
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: know if people tell you or challenge you, then don't don't.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Don't cower down to the challenge. See it through and
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: see what the opportunity barrass itself. And that's what you're
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: is half the battle. Gotta show up. But my man,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on money and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: make conversation. Hassan. You know we're gonna catch back. You
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: know I gotta come back to you. Flatfish mrmean A
• 1:23:03
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  Speaker 1: My next guest is Spicy Marty. She's a magnetic matchmaker
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  Speaker 1: doing amazing. Thank you for having me well great, great
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  Speaker 1: for coming on the show. You know my relationships and
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  Speaker 1: we come out of COVID. You know, I remember doing COVID.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, bo, I'm so glad I'm not in
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  Speaker 1: the game boy. You know you couldn't you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you kiss somebody, you gonna get COVID. Relationships are
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: like covid, you know, you know, the online and apps
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  Speaker 1: was just exploding the relationship you swapping right, left, wipe
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  Speaker 1: covid left, wipe covid right. It was just, uh, it
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: was just really crazy in and now you you said
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  Speaker 1: during that period your business flourished. Yeah, I almost. There's
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit of um guilt when I say like this,
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  Speaker 1: this was amazing for me, right because there was so
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  Speaker 1: many charnship going on, um, from a financial level to
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  Speaker 1: a romantic level for you know, the entire world. But
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  Speaker 1: being in an industry that focuses on helping you find
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  Speaker 1: love and your purpose made actually it was opening, awakening
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  Speaker 1: experience for a lot of folks. I think, Um deciding like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is time for me to get serious. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: if I'm going to spend another year in quarantine isolated,
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  Speaker 1: I really shouldn't, you know, take my companionship and relationship
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  Speaker 1: growth serious. So because our fundamental elements are based off
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: of self passion, intimacy, communication, and learning to say yes.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people decided that they were going to
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: invest in themselves, uh and make sure that they don't
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  Speaker 1: spend alone. And so business has been amazing. What we're
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about your business and the model in a minute,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: which is love. Well, I want to go back to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't always start there. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: was at I Heart Media, which I'm vary from me
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  Speaker 1: with because Steve Harvey and I did a syndication contract
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  Speaker 1: with I Hard and two thousand five he's still with
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: our heard medium for in fact, my podcast Moneymaking Conversation
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: is on the I Heart Media platform. And then you
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  Speaker 1: did work with HBO and uh talk about that thought
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  Speaker 1: in that area. And then we're gonna go back to college.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of like go there and then go
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  Speaker 1: back to college. Then we're gonna come back. Understand how
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  Speaker 1: you into this love making spicy zone. So my career
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: journey has definitely been diverse, right, but everything that I've
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: done has led me to this point. So I realized
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  Speaker 1: at an early age then my purpose of my calling
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  Speaker 1: was to connect people, and understanding that that was a
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  Speaker 1: part of my spiritual gifts, made sure that I went
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  Speaker 1: to you know, undergrad and got my Master's in Communication
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: since that's the number one breakdown in relationships, but all
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: the while gaining experience as a relationship expert UM in
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  Speaker 1: media platforms from radio to television and so starting off
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  Speaker 1: at actually kJ L h early on UM with Steve Harvey, UM,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Steve Harvey actually was a kid, but with
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  Speaker 1: um CEV Wonder and then going from kJ A to
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  Speaker 1: NAINI two point three after having built like credibility in
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  Speaker 1: the radio industry, UM definitely helped me with my on
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  Speaker 1: air experience and doing a relationship radio show where it
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  Speaker 1: gave spicy tips and so all the meanwhile juggling media
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: plus doing a sales executive position at HBO and making
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  Speaker 1: sure that like I also knew how to pitch myself
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  Speaker 1: and market and brands, so I was able to understand
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: operations of business. At the same time, we'll understanding have
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  Speaker 1: to be like in front of the camera. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: articulation is the key. You know what you can't do.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: You can't start a trying to tell peop about love.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Spicy, you can't mess around looking like
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  Speaker 1: you confused. You know what I'm saying, so so so,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: and also let's go be real. You have to look
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: attractive or attractive people. You don't want all the ugly
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: person telling you how to find love. You know, so
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: you are attractive, and then you have the word spicy.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you this money? You know what? You know? If
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I saw you pict yourself, she's relationship. I don't think
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: she's that busy if he's ugly, but you're not, so
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  Speaker 1: fortunately for this interview. But then you then, also you
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  Speaker 1: have the word spicy and you're attractive. Did that ever
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  Speaker 1: bother you that? Hey, you know, people might get the
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  Speaker 1: wrong idea about your brand, that you might get the
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: wrong idea about you because you are serious professional. Okay,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: that's a great question. So I love the fact that um,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: spicy has become this word that we're like, oh what
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: does that mean? You know there's this passion, um and
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: desire that's associated with the word spicy, right, And so
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: I love being able to have an opportunity to describe,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: even with questions like this, what spicy actually stands for.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always embraced it. Um. I coined the name
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  Speaker 1: actually in radio because I've always you know, pushed my
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: business and my company and my expertise the spicy life.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: So when I coined the name Spicy Matty, it was
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: because you know, the CEO of this company. But I'm
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: always giving spicy tips. So when people ask me, like,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: you know, what does that mean? Like why do they
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: call you spicy? You know, they always think it's because
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: I'm this, you know, fiery, you know speces um, you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: know black in Mexican Latina, and so, uh, I get
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to explain to them, no, I'm mixed. I
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  Speaker 1: get an opportunity to explain to them, um that spically
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: actually stands for you know, self, passion, intimacy, communication and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: learning to say yes. And then I coined it in
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: my company, so I embrace it and it's it's a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: catchy name that people get to remember. You know, they're
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: they sometimes forget May, but they never forget spicy. You know,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: you have the corporate experience, now you're taking it to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: a personal level. How were you able to avoid pushback
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: when you started defining your voice? And I know you
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: have history now, but in the beginning you have to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: develop that history. Talk about the in the beginning and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: then the journey to where we are at being interviewed
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: with a resume of legitimacy tied to your brand. Yeah.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to branding, um and credibility, right,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: people fall in love with the person right before they
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: fall in the with the brand. They want to know
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: who's behind that. So when I explained my story of
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: making sure that you know, I elaborate on the fact
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: that I've been doing this since I was a child,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: really connecting people. My mother was married three times single parents.
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  Speaker 1: Each time that she was married, I was set her up.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: I was going up to men in the grocery store
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: at the gas station pitching my mother to them because
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted a dad so bad. And so I felt
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: really good at marketing at a very young age. You know,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: mas been you know number four now, So like it's
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: safe to say I'm really good at what I do,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: but understanding that you need the education and the credibility
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: behind that, right. I went to school mastered in communication
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: and really developed my method there. So all of the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: information that I have is based on true research, try
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: tested and proven. So when anyone comes from me and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, what makes you an expert?
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: You just get to go around saying you're expert. I'm like, yes, actually,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: I have even more than ten years of experience. I've
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: been doing this my entire life, setting up over multiple
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: couples where they've actually walked down the aisle, had children
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: based off of my you know connection, and then have
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: relationships right now that are flourishing, that are getting you know,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: getting to the point of the proposal, and coaching my
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: clients and seeing them all the way through. So I
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: love when people question, you know, what makes you an
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: expert or what makes you a gur guru because it
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: gives the opportunity to really explain all of the investment
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: and time that I put into this. And when people
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: hear your story from a branding perspective, like they want
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: to not just believe you, but they want a relationship
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: with you. And being in a relationship industry, I understand
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: that you need self awareness, You need to bring that
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: passion and fire. You need to have intimacy to create
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: a bond with your audience, and you need to have
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: amazing communication and deciding how you deliver that message. And
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: you also need to be willing to say yes to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the risk, yes to the unknown, understanding you know that
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna believe you. But that's okay. If you
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: believe you, you're going to push that message anyways. So
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: s p I c why it applies to everything absolutely,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: and so now you're the founder of the Spicy life.
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  Speaker 1: Okay again, caring a brand spicy learning from a standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: Using the word that's very popularly used for a lot
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: of describes a lot of different things, but in this case,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: it describes romance. You're trying to trying to find that
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: purpose mate? Now what is the purpose mate? So I
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: love the purpose made term right because it makes you wonder.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: It's not something that we hear often. Most people think
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: of soul mate. They've gotten familiar with that word, and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: that is when you have deep affection and romantic feelings
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: for somewhat amazing chemistry I speak to purpose mate. What
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about is having chemistry and compatibility. So you
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: need both of those elements. You can't just have the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: fire and desire. You also have to have the compat
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: compatibility element. And then in addition to that, you have
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: to be someone who understands and knows your purpose in
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: life and then wants to be with someone who understands
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: their purpose and then you eyes merged two purposes together
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: to help one another form or build your empire the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: mission that you were put on here to do. You're
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: very clear on that, and you understand your role in
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: that person's life and you're there to support them, uplift them,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: use their talents and gifts on another level and help
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: lift them up. So your purpose mate is way bigger
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: than just like, oh, you know, he's fine, I love him. No,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: your purpose mate is like, how do I get you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: to where God intended for you to be? And it's
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: by any means necessary, no matter what comes against us
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: to try to destroy us. I'm pushing you, but I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: love money. Who are you fine? Which is very true.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Now that's why I like what you just said. First
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: of all, soul mate really has not been working in
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: the marriage world because of the marriage is and in divorce.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Now when you ask somebody what your soul mate, they
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: really can't explain to what that is a soul mate. Now,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: when you a purpose mate, you actually had a point
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: of view. They had credibility. I understood it and I
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: brought value. So up to me, this whole purpose made.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: If you find a purpose made, the percentages of successful
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: marriages may go up because soul mate is not working.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry it's not working and falling its failed
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: because can nobody explain what the soul mate is. I
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: can't tell you. I've never used the word soul mate,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: but purpose made I could use because it has you know,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: It's like anything you're do in life, like a good job,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: you have to know it's a contract. If you pretending
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: to forget that, marriage is a contract, you know, and
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: you have the right to break it if it's not
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: working for you. Now in this situation, your purpose made
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: that is turned to that person's purpose, that person's purpose
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: or what they want to do with their lives, and
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: that never comes up. And being a soul mate. I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: really like that concept that you really have honed on
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: to because it makes me, made me think, It made
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: me get a clear understanding of Okay, when I look
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: at somebody, I always tell people like you know when
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: you when you can marry for money, you can marry
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: from somebody who's educated. You can marry with somebody because
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: they But if you're marryed for fineness, you're married because
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: he or he made me laugh. I'm gonna tell you,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: right now that's gonna be a short relationship. It might
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: you lead the marriage and the sex gonna get old.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: He and when the sex get old, you're won't be
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: laughing as much. But if you're married based on a plan,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: and that's what purpose made is it's a plan. Correct
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: talk to me. I think I'm into this spicy like
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: you having said a mighty to hire. You know, I'm
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: just saying, but you you're leading me down the right
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: path because, like I said, I did the book act
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: like a lady to think like a man with Steve Harder.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: The reason that book was so successful, one of the
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: things was the naty Day the naty day uh period
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: that that you had in there, because it was like,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: if a job could put your probation for ninety days,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: why can't you put your relationship on probation for ninety days?
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: And so this is the same thing. It was tied
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: to making the decision not so much on emotion, but
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: is this the right person for you? And when I
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: hear the word soul mate, and we've all heard that
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: and we all used I've used that in some form,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I knew with
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Naty Day probation man does in job and in a relationship.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Also know what purpose made me? Once you explain to me,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: and once you explain it to any of your clients,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they go, Wow, I never thought like that.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You're absolutely hidden on the money. And the
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  Speaker 1: thing is is one thing that I do love about
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  Speaker 1: and I give you crazy insane props um for everything
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  Speaker 1: that you did for publishing that book and getting it
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  Speaker 1: out there. UM is that it speaks to UM strategy,
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  Speaker 1: which I speak to as well. Right what you're saying
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  Speaker 1: right now is that we have to operate less in
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: emotion and how someone makes us feel and more in logic,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: which is totally what I'm in support of. I once
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  Speaker 1: you have books, and once you have the chemistry and compatibility,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: but what does that look like? How do we create
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  Speaker 1: a strategic action plan for what your relationship goal is?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: And that's what I get to the root of because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are just out here floating around
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And one thing that I
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  Speaker 1: do support in Act like the Lady, thinks like a
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  Speaker 1: man as well is that ninety day rule. Now can
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  Speaker 1: most people follow it when they come into my program.
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole. That's a whole, another whole, another topic. Right,
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  Speaker 1: they require a lot of strength when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: being absinent for those ninety days. But I fully support that,
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  Speaker 1: actually implement that in my Spicy program because I need
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  Speaker 1: people to have clarity of thoughts. I don't want them
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  Speaker 1: emotionally attached to someone who hasn't earned all of the
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  Speaker 1: things that need to show up when it comes to
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: their core values, their deal breakers, consistency, and when we
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: speak to your purpose mate, your purpose mate has to
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  Speaker 1: show the compatibility element before we give our bodies to them.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean by compatibility is I'm talking amazing
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  Speaker 1: communication that's an alignment with your definition of communication. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking shared activities and interests, and I'm talking about being
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  Speaker 1: at the same place and your guys time and intention
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: of what you guys want from the relationship. Right, can
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  Speaker 1: I merge my life with this person and are we
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  Speaker 1: have the same place in our lives in knowing what
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  Speaker 1: our purpose is and what's the game plans to fulfilling that.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm huge on strategy and it's something that I've
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: created my whole method around when it comes to manifesting
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  Speaker 1: what you truly want. I'm not just about words and emotions.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about yes, manifestation. But we do that
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: through behavioral changes and actions. What's this game plan look like? Well?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: It really interesting. So when one because you know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the big companies out there making money of matchmaking,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: and then you just you know, you just ficy body. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So how do you compete with the big ballers out there?
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: They got the million dollar commercial brands, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: on social media, they do geofencing on couples, you know,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: and it's credibility. How how did you manage to, you know,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: start defining your lane and being on major talk shows
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: and being an advice person? How did that happen? I
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: think a part of my success has been driven not
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: just from the branding component of understanding what my brand is,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: but also, and I'll tell this to my datas to
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: what's your product differentiator? Right? What makes you different or
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: sets you apart from what else is on the market.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: And so when we speak in business terms, there's tons
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: of other matchmaking companies, there's tons of competitors completely understand that,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: but what they're not doing is giving you the personal
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: relationship coaching that comes with the matchmaking. I can introduce
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: you to a hundred people, but if I don't know
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: how to raise your vibration, if I don't know your strengths,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: your weaknesses, opportunities and threats um which is what I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: do for my clients a squat analysis, right, really understanding
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: their character, what their beliefs are, you know what's there,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: what's holding them back, what's their limiting beliefs, Really understanding
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: who they are as a person and developing that personal tension.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: How am I going to set you up with your
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: purpose mate when we haven't even gotten to the root
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: of you know who you are, some of your childhood traumas.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of coaching that comes with my program.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: In addition to the weekly coaching, you also get an
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: image consultant, I redo your look. You also get a
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: professional astrologist as someone who's telling me what are the
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• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: marriage and damn family therapists on staff. And then I
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  Speaker 1: also redo your online dating profile. So everything that we're
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: doing is transformational. And we even have a fitness coach
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: should we need to like help you from a health standpoint.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: So it's full, full encompassing and very hands on, whereas
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  Speaker 1: other matchmaking companies are just setting you up and they're
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: like good luck, now pay my tin kkay, my twenty k,
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  Speaker 1: and they're not really working on who you are as
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: a person and getting to the root of relationship development.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, my main emphasis
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: is is that interpersonal development and how do I help
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: you become the best version of yourself so that you
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: can reach relationship actualization. Uh, hopefully you've trade bok purpose
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  Speaker 1: But I have five things in the in the queue
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I like a talent all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be coming for you when I get my book.
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• 1:44:21
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• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: listen to the interviews that I do with talented people
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: like you, maybe you can take those little moments of
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: enthusiasm or information because it's tied to both, because successful
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: people are driven by their hard work also by their excitement,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: like you're excited about what you do. I don't know
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: anybody who who makes a lot of money and unhappy
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna change the game. You know, I'm not unhappy
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  Speaker 1: or anything I do. I wake up happy. That gets
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  Speaker 1: me out of bed, That gets me out the front door,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and it also causes me to return home so I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: can rest up and do it again the next day. Now, Spicy,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: you know it said yes it's important in the learning
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: of say yes now in relationships. You've always heard the
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: word now to say no now, and you is learning
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: how to say yes because that's the last of the
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  Speaker 1: terms with spices s P I C Y Y stands
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: for yes. So talk about that. So the reason why
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: yes it's so important is um exactly for what you said,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: right society and what's going on culturally right now is
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: that the you know, rate of marriage for millennial age
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: groups is slowing down as far as like the time
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: that we're choosing to get married in our lives. Right,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: So there's all of this um fear based around why
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: we need to wait, why we need to be making
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: slower decisions, because you know, we saw what our parents
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: did and our parents parents, and because the divorce rate
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: is so high, we're now dating from a place of fear.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: And so when you date from a place of fear,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: that's a scarcity mindset. You're going to be limited in
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: what you believe your options are. You're gonna be limited
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: and what you believe that you can tract. So when
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I hear limiting beliefs, I have to help you with
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: raising your vibration and having not a scarcity mindset but
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: an abundance mindset. And when we have an abundance mindset,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: it means that we don't have to be afraid of
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: the unknown. It means that we can take risks and
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: step into them with strategy, right, Because I believe in risk,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: but I believe in calculating risks. So when you're dating,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: you're going through the process, or even when you're in partnership,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: really evaluating you know, the choices that you're making researching
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: you know why you want this relationship and what's that
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: looks like, but also what's holding you back, what's stopping
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: you from being in a healthy, loving relationship, And when
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: it comes to partnership, really understanding that, yes, you want
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: those bubble going, warm butterfly feelings, but you really want
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: the person who's going to submit. And when I say submit,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the person who says yes to what's
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: healthiest for the relationship. I'm not talking about, you know,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: bending down on one knee or doing whatever your partner says.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: When I talk submission, I'm saying about what am I
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice in this relationship to have what I want?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Because you're not going to get percent of the person, right,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I definitely believe in the So what are you willing
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice about you? Your personality that's not serving you,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: that's holding you back? And then what are you willing
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice from a behavioral standpoint and making sure that
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: your partner's love language is fed. And oftentimes we want
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: to you know, I want to put these boundaries up,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I want to put these walls up. And we're so
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: guarded because we're afraid to love. So my whole emphasis
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: around yes is like, okay, let's pushack past these boundaries.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: And if we believe that we can actually have what
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: we want, what are we afraid of? We just have
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: to step into our future self and go get it. Wow.
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• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: high morals and ethical standards, and so being able to
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: see you know, us represented now um not just in
• 1:48:31
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• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: connected to my sorority of Alpha cupa Alpha. I have
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  Speaker 1: so much pride in the fact that like, we did
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  Speaker 1: and sisters. When you know, we see her up there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on the podium or next to the president, knowing,
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  Speaker 1: understanding the responsibility that she has, and knowing because her
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  Speaker 1: takes care of us and represents us um you know,
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  Speaker 1: to the best of her ability. So there's you know,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: there was that moment when I cried um when she
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: got elected. But definitely, you know, was was huge and
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: excited when I even first heard that she was on
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: the ballot, and then to see her make history on
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: multiple things, on multiple levels, even you know, me being biracial,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: seeing a biracial woman up there, like, there's so many
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: things that I connect with her on that I'm you're
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: gonna get the emotional right now, but but just the
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• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: super excited for my future offspring to be able to
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: see her in there, you know, and and what she represents.
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  Speaker 1: It means a lot to me and to my community. Well,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: you know, you're of money making. Money making conversation is
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: business money and that is. But also you know, a
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: weekly uh clubhouse you know, so I don't you know,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: you know you're willing to have people for free to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: talk about that and we're wrapping up. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: love um. I love clubhouse because it gives me an
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: opportunity to give relationship advice. Weekly on Sundays, I usually
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: hold a forum where I'm giving relationship coaching and giving
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: spicy tips out there. It's not as full hands on
• 1:50:32
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing giving the spicy relationship coaching and helping people
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• 1:50:45
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• 1:50:47
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• 1:50:53
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• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: to bounce off of other relationship experts, and each week
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  Speaker 1: I bring in someone different. So I'll do the same
• 1:51:16
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  Speaker 1: where all sometimes bring different people on that I get
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