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Yvonne Orji, Dara Resnik, Luenell, Henry Simmons & Delroy Lindo · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: She is a Nigerian American actress, comedian, and writer. Her
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Speaker 1: projects include starring as Molly on HBO's critical Acclaim comedies
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Speaker 1: Here's Insecure, her first one hour stand up comedy special
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Speaker 1: for HBO, Mama Made It. It is also available on
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Speaker 1: in One Bamboozoo by Jesus Hi, God tricked me into
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. My girl, Yvonne or g Hey, what's going on? Well?
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Speaker 1: First of all, first of all, I want watching the special.
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Speaker 1: I'm going I see a rock star. I see Beyonce,
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Speaker 1: I see Kelly Roland coming out there, just bouncing on
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Speaker 1: the stage. Now I'm telling something. I'm a former stand
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Speaker 1: up comic. I don't want to claim it because I've
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Speaker 1: been on stage in many years. But you came out lit,
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Speaker 1: You came out and brought the heat at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of your stand up. Is that how all your sets are?
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Speaker 1: You just made it special for that for the HBO special.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's I'm high. I told I told, HU said,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you part documentary, part music video, part
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Speaker 1: comedy special. They was what I was like, this rock
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Speaker 1: with me on this, rock with me on this And
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Speaker 1: that's why I really, you know, really wanted Chris Robinson
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Speaker 1: to direct my special because he you know, Chris Robinson,
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Speaker 1: He's done any music video do you think of that
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Speaker 1: was bombed Chris robinsons while behind it and some ways
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Speaker 1: people want and so I was like, and he's also
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Speaker 1: a hometown he wrote um um and so uh he's
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Speaker 1: from the NBA should stage. When he's like what home
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Speaker 1: down he goes up from the the m v U.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, all my shows are hype, Like I
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Speaker 1: I'm one of those times that come off with a
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Speaker 1: lot of energy and a lot of the off time
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Speaker 1: like offer it um because I can that just texts
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Speaker 1: the phone. I feel like if I feel like if
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Speaker 1: then audience was having at the time, I mean, they're
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Speaker 1: gonna have a good time with the jokes place you
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Speaker 1: get them, like come on, we could guard down like
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Speaker 1: I want to be happy up here and I want
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Speaker 1: you to be happy over there. So if we all
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Speaker 1: on the same thing left at the rock, I think it. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: because over tell you this because you'll see the character
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Speaker 1: and insecure your lawyer. You you know, you really don't
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Speaker 1: show that type of energy on this on this series
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Speaker 1: that you become famous for. And so when you came
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Speaker 1: out on the stage like that and you know you're
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Speaker 1: looking finding you was tall statue wash right and everything
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Speaker 1: he was rocking and and everything running from side to
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Speaker 1: side of the stage. That was a positive play on
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Speaker 1: my energy sitting at the house. So I know it.
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Speaker 1: I know it played big in that theater, Howard Theater
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Speaker 1: in d C. Oh. Absolutely absolutely, I mean the camera
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Speaker 1: pans to the audience and they were like I had
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Speaker 1: I had the artist mid Low, so that that was
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Speaker 1: an original track, creative specifically for the trailer and the
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Speaker 1: artist mid Low. She did her sting on that on
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Speaker 1: on that track, and so it was like to be
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Speaker 1: able to give back the time and the space for
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Speaker 1: it to breed, for it to be like, yo, Mama,
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Speaker 1: we made it, you know, and and just everyone not
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Speaker 1: knowing what took SAgs like you know, it wasn't just
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Speaker 1: like an entrance song. It was like, no, we're making
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Speaker 1: an entrance. You made an interest, you made a not
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Speaker 1: legos Nigeria. You know, we cut, we do interplay on
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Speaker 1: the inserted in the whole process. And fell in love
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Speaker 1: with your mom. I know she's taking care of I
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Speaker 1: know what. She's still there, you know because when you
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Speaker 1: when you brought the groceries in, I would tell you something.
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Speaker 1: When you brought the cinema raisins bagels, I believe, and
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Speaker 1: then the cineamon bread, I went, that's my girl right there.
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Speaker 1: See that's all I eat. I reached. I love cinnamon
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Speaker 1: toast with the little raisins in it, and I love
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Speaker 1: the cinema episode. So when when you brought that in,
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Speaker 1: me and her were on the same page. We could
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Speaker 1: eat breakfast together every day of the week. And I said,
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Speaker 1: but it was just a really really natural atmosphere. Did
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Speaker 1: you created? You just want to show people where you
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Speaker 1: came from. And I was so going back and showing everybody,
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Speaker 1: you know, you really did make it. Von Oh, I'll
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Speaker 1: create that. I'm in, I'm in the prophet of continue
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Speaker 1: thing to make it. But I made it this far,
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Speaker 1: but there is there is far more to go about that.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think that's funny because that was
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Speaker 1: one of those things that I could leave right, you
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Speaker 1: getting right, I'm giving all these things, and he still
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Speaker 1: hung up on one thing that I did not deliver.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, love, But you know the thing about
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Speaker 1: when I said, you made it? You know I come
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Speaker 1: from the hood, you know, uh, six sisters, two brothers,
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Speaker 1: father was a truck driver, mom graduated from high school
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Speaker 1: and uh and everywhere. You know, you have goals that
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Speaker 1: I could tell you from your from watching your career,
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Speaker 1: watching the special your goal or in it. And you
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Speaker 1: also are blessed by the opportunity that have been received
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Speaker 1: by you, and so you at each point I feel
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Speaker 1: that when you said, when I said you've made it,
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Speaker 1: this is like winning the super Bowl. You want to
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Speaker 1: win another super Bowl, you know, but you're gonna tell
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Speaker 1: everybody I wanted this super Bowl and I felt that
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Speaker 1: that's what they're special. When I was watching it, watching
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Speaker 1: you return home and Legos was it was it was.
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Speaker 1: It was a testament to saying, look, you can do it.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing it, okay, and I'm gonna come here and
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Speaker 1: show you. HBO is gonna follow me. I'm bringing my
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Speaker 1: boy Chris with me. He's gonna direct me, and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna throw down at Howard Theater and I'm gonna show
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Speaker 1: you where I came from, to show you that I
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Speaker 1: came from over here. My family is still living. They
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Speaker 1: get to share your brother, get to share in your love,
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Speaker 1: and get to tell less story. That's what I'm saying
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Speaker 1: when I say you made it, because believe me, I
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Speaker 1: know your journey to greatness. It's still it's still at
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Speaker 1: the top of the iceberg. Okay. I appreciate that. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you are. I appreciate you let me
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Speaker 1: in speaking good life over my life now obviously brother, obviously,
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Speaker 1: well you know the thing about it is that you know,
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Speaker 1: the thing about it is that as as a female
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Speaker 1: stand up comedian. You know, I know, as a stand up,
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Speaker 1: it's tough for African American stand up. Before Death Comedy
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Speaker 1: Jam came along, I was doing jokes, you know, Jared Finnfield,
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Speaker 1: Dennis Leary, Sam Kenniston and all that. Then Death Comedy
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Speaker 1: Jam came by, and it opened a whole new world
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Speaker 1: for black comedy to come to the mainstream, start feeling
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Speaker 1: the venue, start feeling the comedy clubs. And then being
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Speaker 1: a female comedian, you know, there's a different path to that.
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Speaker 1: Talk about your life as a female stand up coming up.
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Speaker 1: I know you're open for Chris Rock, but there's a
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Speaker 1: journey and a path that you have to deal with
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Speaker 1: being a female stand up, and especially being a black
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Speaker 1: female stand up. Can you talk about that, talk about
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Speaker 1: the path you said? I'm sorry, no, no, I'm just
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Speaker 1: talking about the path you take as a stand up.
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Speaker 1: But of course, being a black female stand up that's
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Speaker 1: a different journey too, because of the fact that it's
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Speaker 1: a male dominated industry for sure. I mean, and I think,
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Speaker 1: I think, I think the fact that God made me
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Speaker 1: night hearing, which is you got to have like a
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Speaker 1: thick a thick skin. Boy, you got to do that,
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Speaker 1: and you're in the rough. We even say good morning,
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Speaker 1: ro good morning, Why are you yellous? Why are you?
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Speaker 1: Why are you gonna? So we we kind of have
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Speaker 1: that demeanor. And then you know, I grew up with
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Speaker 1: three older brothers and dad for god that I was
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Speaker 1: a girl. Like they said that. I said that absolutely,
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Speaker 1: So I think that was all the preparation. You know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes you think about like why am I in this family?
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Speaker 1: But then it's like, oh, you know what I had
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Speaker 1: to be in the family, you know, to learn these
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Speaker 1: things because y'all would go open the door for me
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Speaker 1: to be in this profession that you know is male dominated.
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Speaker 1: But I come from the heavily peach society, so this
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Speaker 1: this is no biggie you know. I know when I
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Speaker 1: started people, I would you know, I I sat. It
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Speaker 1: was always big for me. So I was like, even
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Speaker 1: though I'm gonna be on stage, I'm I'm a look amazing,
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Speaker 1: because I would always say my joke bomb or my
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Speaker 1: outfit is gonna be bombed, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: like because they're gonna like something about these and so
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Speaker 1: I always made sure to like look presentable, um in
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Speaker 1: that way. And I remember going to comedy clubs and
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Speaker 1: they would be like, oh you you were to do?
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Speaker 1: Are you here the thing? And I'd be like at
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Speaker 1: the comedy club and you know, it was just like, well,
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Speaker 1: what do you here to do? Like you there's almost
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Speaker 1: like you to cute, you're too pretty, could be funny.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, y'all can get these jokes,
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Speaker 1: then I'm sorry to disappoint you, brother, and you know,
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Speaker 1: and it was kind of like, wait, so for a
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Speaker 1: black female comic, you can either be overweight and funny
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Speaker 1: and you know because we know because we know what
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Speaker 1: that looks like. Or you know, you can be like
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Speaker 1: hood and funny but like intelligence, slim, pretty actable and
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Speaker 1: you got jokes we don't know. And I was like, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't subscribe to that, and I don't
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Speaker 1: believe that that that those are my options. And that's
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Speaker 1: what that's what here the stage on his special because
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna tell people the jokes. I'm
11:38
Speaker 1: not gonna tell people your routine. I'm gonna tell people this.
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Speaker 1: You came out on the stage lit if you do
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Speaker 1: not miss the opening because she's on fire on the opening,
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Speaker 1: and she carries that fire into her humor. You know,
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Speaker 1: like a lot of comments to do that. They come
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Speaker 1: out on stage with a lot of energy, and in
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Speaker 1: the show kind of like every five minutes gets less
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Speaker 1: and less funny. That is not happening here. Okay, she
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Speaker 1: knew I'm talking about. They come out there, be jumping
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Speaker 1: around and be clapping in everything, and crowd be tired.
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Speaker 1: They tidy work the crowd out. They be tired, and
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Speaker 1: you come out there. And the thing about it is me,
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Speaker 1: as a former stand up I always look at people
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Speaker 1: that go if they do material that go, you know,
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Speaker 1: I never thought of that. I would never have thought
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Speaker 1: of that joke. You do a lot of that. You're coming,
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Speaker 1: You're very observational, You're very socially gifted and understanding how
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Speaker 1: you can just always tell people about jokes. You know,
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Speaker 1: every good joke is a hard right or hard left.
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Speaker 1: You know, it throws you for a curve and you
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Speaker 1: and you do a very good job of that and
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Speaker 1: honing that skill. And so when you when you talk
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Speaker 1: about your stand up, even what journey you trying to
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Speaker 1: tell people when your own stage, are you trying to
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Speaker 1: relate to any of it it. To the women, are you
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Speaker 1: trying to make a statement? To the guys? Are you
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Speaker 1: just trying to be funny? I apreciate that, you know.
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Speaker 1: I think I think humor for me in my life.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a place and entertainment to uh, humor
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Speaker 1: and education, right, I think, you know, or or to
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Speaker 1: entertain and to educate. I should say, um and content.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I know it's like you don't a
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Speaker 1: little comedy show again a lecture, but it's like, no,
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Speaker 1: comedy is the way where you learn the most, you know,
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Speaker 1: in such a digestible form. Right, every every comedian is
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Speaker 1: teaching you something. You're teaching you about them. They're teaching
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Speaker 1: you about the way they see the world. They're teaching
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Speaker 1: you about like how you a problem to the world.
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Speaker 1: But you didn't know and so um, you know through
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Speaker 1: my jokes and through my humor, I didn't. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: know that my crowd is heavily female, right, I know
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Speaker 1: I have the young female population who are like they height,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Somebody Roy was junior, uh
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Speaker 1: he I love him so much. He came to my
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Speaker 1: show in New York and he was like first of all,
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Speaker 1: you got a crowd that lays out their clothes the
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Speaker 1: night before so they can't ready. But you're from your
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Speaker 1: He's like you you kind of a crowd that they
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Speaker 1: lay out there close to me, like we go on
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Speaker 1: the Ebron organ Show. We got look fraid, I was
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Speaker 1: like when God blessed it and then he was like,
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Speaker 1: you got to gamely employed crowd and you got the
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Speaker 1: people who you know they early. You know, that's what
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Speaker 1: I saw. I'm genious that that's what I saw. I saw.
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Speaker 1: I saw a contractive crowd. I just throwing a common
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Speaker 1: club called hip hop Common. Just stop and I told
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Speaker 1: everybody when the good looking women started showing up to
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Speaker 1: my club, I knew I was a hit, you know
14:27
Speaker 1: because because that's you know, the brand was on fire then,
14:30
Speaker 1: because once they show up and lay out them close
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Speaker 1: and make an appointment that they're gonna come here and
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Speaker 1: spend their dollar and spend two or three hours of
14:38
Speaker 1: day time someplace. That's what I got. So I was
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Speaker 1: I was it was like a look back on me, going, wow,
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Speaker 1: she really is carried a weight of of of a
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Speaker 1: group of people for for the next ten fifty twenty years.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a growing fan base. But I know
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Speaker 1: I just gotta switch gears right quick and congratulate you
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Speaker 1: because we don't talk about the fact that we are
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Speaker 1: talking about your HBO special Mama I Made Did, which
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Speaker 1: premieres on HBO June six, but being renewed on Insecure
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Speaker 1: for another season. Why the season is still going on?
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Speaker 1: Talk to me about that energy, talk about that love
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Speaker 1: for the series and the characters that you share the
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Speaker 1: screen with on that show. Man, I hit a piece
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Speaker 1: that I was like, this is amazing one the season
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Speaker 1: is still going on to we in the middle of
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Speaker 1: a band melic like how we would have shut down?
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Speaker 1: And NHBO believes in the shows the leg that are like,
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Speaker 1: may'll coind of that? Because in case there was ever
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Speaker 1: anyone worried? But never then let outside open up again,
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Speaker 1: y'all go, y'all gonna going to productive and if just
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Speaker 1: at a time we don't even know what productions are
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Speaker 1: gonna look like, but it feels like, but we we're
15:42
Speaker 1: gonna fear out what the fifties don't look like? Um,
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Speaker 1: And so I just thought that was a blessing. I
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Speaker 1: really did. I thought like, Wow, that was a blessing
15:51
Speaker 1: and also how they believe in us as well um
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Speaker 1: as a show and as and and what they know
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Speaker 1: that our show that the community of creatives in the
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Speaker 1: comedy of Stands were watching in the weekend. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's great. I look forward to seeing the stories you
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Speaker 1: get to tell. You know, ef year in a row.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're an all romantic this season. You know,
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Speaker 1: we got your ball. You know, y'all ain't got talent
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Speaker 1: that's been with each other, you know, but it's a
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Speaker 1: very romantic season for you this say this this year,
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Speaker 1: so we gotta definitely carried it over to the next thing.
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Speaker 1: Of course, I don't know what's happening and how that
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Speaker 1: relationship is kind of in and I'm not gonna tell
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Speaker 1: anybody about the relationship. You just need to watch Insecure.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Eve in order here the third and
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, we know this country is gonna be opened up.
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Speaker 1: We know June six, you have a special on HBO
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be on fire. I'm telling she's rocking the stage,
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Speaker 1: she's lit the cross led, she brings the comedy for
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Speaker 1: one entire hour. They have it to cuts in it
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Speaker 1: that goes back to her hometown. You get to see
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Speaker 1: a family, get to see the community gets here, how
16:48
Speaker 1: she grew up a little bit of a fan base
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Speaker 1: and Legos Nigeria. My boy Chris Robinson, I do know
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Speaker 1: him back in the back in two thousand we shot
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Speaker 1: uh Fitts video together, so I know the talent that
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Speaker 1: he brings to the table. You went back to Howard
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Speaker 1: Theater and watching the DC to do it, Yvonne, your
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Speaker 1: special girl. And I am not saying you've made it,
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Speaker 1: but you had to tell your mama that you did
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Speaker 1: make it when you take this HBO special. That's all
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Girl, Yes, yes I did. I got keep
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Speaker 1: so I think she knows it. I think I just
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Speaker 1: need to keep reminding her like no, we made we did.
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Speaker 1: We did with mom. We're not what we used to be. Right. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know it. It's a it's a tender moment in
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Speaker 1: the end of a special where you know when you
17:30
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17:34
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17:37
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17:39
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17:41
Speaker 1: define our success sometimes based on what other people are doing.
17:44
Speaker 1: But but in that moment that you talk about it
17:46
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17:49
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17:51
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17:52
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17:57
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18:11
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18:16
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18:18
Speaker 1: you got emotional on me. Evan, talk to me about that.
18:22
Speaker 1: I did. I did because it was it was a
18:24
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18:28
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18:30
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18:32
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18:36
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18:39
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18:43
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18:44
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18:47
Speaker 1: So it was one of those like moments of like
18:50
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18:52
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18:56
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18:58
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19:01
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19:04
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19:06
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19:08
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19:12
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19:15
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19:18
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19:21
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19:24
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19:28
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19:32
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19:34
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19:37
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19:39
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19:44
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do. This just makes the
19:46
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19:48
Speaker 1: presented itself not as a lucrative opportunity by any means,
19:51
Speaker 1: because it cost me on that show, it cost you
19:54
Speaker 1: to buy an amplifier and a good mic and learn
19:56
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19:58
Speaker 1: like a stop on another comment, you know, open mic
20:02
Speaker 1: in order to get to the next show. So you know,
20:05
Speaker 1: but what came from that was the name and I
20:07
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20:10
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20:13
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20:16
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20:19
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20:21
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20:29
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20:31
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20:34
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20:38
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20:41
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24:17
Speaker 1: Inspired by the report of a real nine year old journalist,
24:20
Speaker 1: the storyline goes like this, when a young girl and
24:22
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Speaker 1: co showrunner, executive producer of Home Before Dark, da Rest
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Speaker 1: Nick h U, I, you was that a lot, because
24:47
Speaker 1: you know you got a lot going on, you got
24:49
Speaker 1: you're one of those a lot going on people. And
24:52
Speaker 1: that's impressive. That's impressive. Thank you, that was really incredible.
24:57
Speaker 1: I want you to follow me around everywhere. You know
25:00
Speaker 1: something with the story lines did you have that could
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Speaker 1: be written in You know, we do our bouge to
25:07
Speaker 1: include everything that needs to be included. And like you said,
25:10
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to work on a lot of different
25:12
Speaker 1: kinds of shows because that would work. That would definitely
25:16
Speaker 1: work in the Jane the Version series. Me following around
25:18
Speaker 1: introducing you wherever you go. That could definitely working at
25:21
Speaker 1: Jane the Virgin for sure. Now when I look at
25:24
Speaker 1: this body of work, you know it, First of all,
25:26
Speaker 1: it's just shows a range I say comedy, I see drama,
25:28
Speaker 1: I see action, adventure, sci fi. Uh. And then this
25:32
Speaker 1: then we have this new series series Home Before Dog.
25:34
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, Before we get to Home Before Dog,
25:37
Speaker 1: I just like to talk about it, compliment you on
25:40
Speaker 1: your body of work, uh, that you that you put before,
25:43
Speaker 1: and just just just just tell us about your mindset
25:46
Speaker 1: from a creative standpoint, when you walk into projects and
25:49
Speaker 1: such a such a level of diverse projects that that
25:52
Speaker 1: I've just presented to the listeners on my podcast money
25:55
Speaker 1: Making Conversations, But I just I go wherever I'm called.
26:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that that sounds overly spiritual, probably
26:04
Speaker 1: for this conversation, but I really do try to read
26:09
Speaker 1: everything that comes my way and think about whether or
26:12
Speaker 1: not it's the thing that needs to be made or
26:14
Speaker 1: the thing that needs to be said at that time,
26:17
Speaker 1: um and so. And also by the way, sometimes it's
26:19
Speaker 1: just something that I feel passionate about. Obviously, like Daredevil
26:23
Speaker 1: said a lot about justice and uh, you know about
26:26
Speaker 1: vigilante justice in particular and having to work sometimes outside
26:29
Speaker 1: the system. But like, ultimately, I was really just excited
26:32
Speaker 1: to work on a Marvel show because I'm a nerd.
26:34
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's sometimes it's fun and sometimes
26:37
Speaker 1: there's messaging. Um. In terms of why I go where
26:41
Speaker 1: I go, that's the reason, and in terms of like
26:44
Speaker 1: why the different genres and the breadth of the work.
26:48
Speaker 1: One of the things I really love about what we do.
26:50
Speaker 1: And I tell this to my students because they teach
26:51
Speaker 1: at USC on Sundance and a couple other places. We
26:55
Speaker 1: can really write ourselves out of any corner. And it's
26:58
Speaker 1: been sort of the most beautiful part of my career
27:02
Speaker 1: has been this ability to not get pigeon holes into
27:04
Speaker 1: anyone thing. It's every time, you know, you think, Okay, well,
27:07
Speaker 1: I guess she's a romantic comedy writers, right, well, let
27:10
Speaker 1: me show you this dark drama that I just wrote
27:12
Speaker 1: completely keep your expectations. So um so yeah, it's it's
27:17
Speaker 1: really is one of the most wonderful things about being
27:19
Speaker 1: a writers, being able to have that breath and it's beautiful.
27:23
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your body work now. Okay, I'm a
27:25
Speaker 1: nerd Marvel Netflix, Okay, Daredevil, my wife and I oh,
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you. We we just couldn't wait and
27:33
Speaker 1: we were being too when he started. We didn't stop
27:37
Speaker 1: every time. Now to starve the show. Charlie Cox, Okay,
27:43
Speaker 1: incredible athletes, excellent actor. But the fight scenes though, Dora, Yeah,
27:50
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know one of my favorite all
27:52
Speaker 1: time fight scenes was when he was coming down the stairwell.
27:55
Speaker 1: Remember that scene. Incredible, Yeah that we we used that
27:59
Speaker 1: fight scenes the hallways. That hallway fight scene was the
28:02
Speaker 1: stairwell one in my episode, the fire escape one. There's
28:06
Speaker 1: always there's a hallway one in um the first season,
28:11
Speaker 1: which is incredible. That's like a one. And then the
28:16
Speaker 1: five Escape one was really really fun to shoot. Yeah,
28:18
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that was really
28:21
Speaker 1: cool for me was I went from Shooter, you know
28:24
Speaker 1: where we only had seven days to shoot our sequences
28:27
Speaker 1: and didn't always feel as safe as it might. Um
28:32
Speaker 1: and and uh and then we went I went to
28:35
Speaker 1: Daredevil and I was really I mean, that machine is
28:38
Speaker 1: such a I'm very happy for everybody at Dizzy plus
28:40
Speaker 1: who are who are now? You know, getting to make
28:42
Speaker 1: these new Marvel shows. That the way that those Marvel
28:45
Speaker 1: Netflix shows was was run was really quite remarkable, and
28:49
Speaker 1: they took such painstaking care to make every single one
28:53
Speaker 1: of those action sequences fun as how, completely reminiscent of
28:57
Speaker 1: the comics, and also really safe for everybody involved. So
29:01
Speaker 1: it was really it was by the way. I grew
29:04
Speaker 1: up in New York City, So I would text like
29:06
Speaker 1: my my movie nerd friends who I grew up with,
29:09
Speaker 1: and be like, I am shooting and actively because hang
29:15
Speaker 1: out on the soup and the fears of my friends.
29:20
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's awesome. You know the thing about
29:23
Speaker 1: Dared Devil and I and I'm not gonna I'm gonna
29:25
Speaker 1: bring up okay that those two fight scenes were great,
29:28
Speaker 1: and then the fight scene where he had to break
29:30
Speaker 1: out of the prison. Remember that. One of course, my
29:34
Speaker 1: dear friends one Aster Dean wrote wrote that one, and
29:37
Speaker 1: I mean he killed it. That's my favorite sequence in
29:40
Speaker 1: the whole season. Okay, now I'm gonna tell you my
29:42
Speaker 1: favorite scene sequence was when the Punisher. Remember when the
29:45
Speaker 1: Punisher was singing to kill that guy and he had
29:49
Speaker 1: to he came out and realized he had been set
29:51
Speaker 1: up and he had his way. Yeah, that was the
29:57
Speaker 1: most That was bloody. That was bloody of hell. That
29:59
Speaker 1: was come on, dog. That was brutal. But I loved it.
30:03
Speaker 1: I went wow, I just I was tired watching it.
30:07
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy has to be incredible shape. I
30:11
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, oh my god. So so it's just
30:15
Speaker 1: it's just the fascination of being able to do work
30:18
Speaker 1: like that. Do I just I'm kind of, you know,
30:21
Speaker 1: like a bill on your shoulder, just watching some time
30:24
Speaker 1: because that stuff is great. I'm a little nerried. I'm sorry.
30:27
Speaker 1: It's really fun and you know that, really it really
30:30
Speaker 1: is a good fact to the thing that I started saying, right,
30:32
Speaker 1: It's like one of the reasons to sign on to
30:35
Speaker 1: a Marvel show has that kind of read. If you
30:38
Speaker 1: can actually sort of within that, you can use that
30:42
Speaker 1: as a platform to say whatever you want to say.
30:44
Speaker 1: You can talk about vigilante justice, you can talk about
30:47
Speaker 1: in the system, you can and you know that it's
30:48
Speaker 1: actually getting out there in the world as supposed to.
30:51
Speaker 1: When I was on, I was Dick. I loved I
30:53
Speaker 1: Love Dick. It was great, but ultimately I'm pretty sure
30:55
Speaker 1: we were mostly preaching to the choir. I don't think
30:58
Speaker 1: that the feminist method got much beyond the feminist audience
31:03
Speaker 1: you know that ended up finding it. So the Marvels
31:05
Speaker 1: doesn't really are really special because of their reach. Well
31:08
Speaker 1: they're not only special because the writing. I love the
31:11
Speaker 1: character development, you know, and you know how you remember
31:15
Speaker 1: when he came, he was in the he was at
31:16
Speaker 1: the bottom I think it bottom that church and just
31:18
Speaker 1: watching him suffer and to deal with the pain. And
31:22
Speaker 1: I guess you're saying this, this dude really did watch series.
31:25
Speaker 1: It's really I'm sorry we were and and everybody on
31:29
Speaker 1: the show like really took such incredible care with the
31:34
Speaker 1: with the original material. Everybody with a deep fan of
31:38
Speaker 1: the material, everybody read the most recent comics. We wanted
31:42
Speaker 1: to make sure that it was something that the deep
31:44
Speaker 1: fans of the show would love but also be surprised by, right,
31:48
Speaker 1: you know, be influenced by the comics, but not follow
31:50
Speaker 1: them so closely that everybody knew what was coming. Um,
31:53
Speaker 1: it was a real bummer for everybody when that got canceled.
31:56
Speaker 1: But I was really, while you're gonna do that, doll,
31:58
Speaker 1: why are you going to do that? You're going bring
32:00
Speaker 1: up the bed. See, we were going to good you know,
32:02
Speaker 1: I know it's canceled, you know, I know, God, God
32:05
Speaker 1: bless but I really wanted that fourth season for all
32:09
Speaker 1: the folks. I say. I was very lucky by then.
32:11
Speaker 1: I had moved on to home before dark, but I
32:13
Speaker 1: had a lot of friends who are still on the
32:14
Speaker 1: show were really fun to great transition to an amazing
32:18
Speaker 1: series that I had the fortune of screening this weekend
32:22
Speaker 1: and and watching amazing NAYR actress called Brooklyn Prince. You know,
32:28
Speaker 1: you know, you know Dakota Fanning. I thought she was brilliant,
32:31
Speaker 1: you know, watching her do her thing, um, and didn't
32:35
Speaker 1: transition in through teen and now as an adult actress.
32:38
Speaker 1: She is always very difficult to do um, I'm looking
32:42
Speaker 1: at this young lady tell us about her. Uh. In
32:45
Speaker 1: the whole casting process to bring on board, and before
32:48
Speaker 1: we really get into detailed about the series, Home Before Dark,
32:52
Speaker 1: we were very lucky in that we were told that
32:56
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Princess parents were not that excited about doing a
32:59
Speaker 1: television and shows that they you know, they knew that
33:02
Speaker 1: that was a commitment that they didn't necessarily want to
33:04
Speaker 1: put their kids through because they have a very they
33:06
Speaker 1: have very nice life in Florida, like as a regular family.
33:09
Speaker 1: And um, we sort of the woman who brought me
33:13
Speaker 1: the original underlying material said to me, you know what
33:17
Speaker 1: if we just send it to her and let's just
33:19
Speaker 1: see what happens. And we got them to read it
33:21
Speaker 1: and they and Brooklyn both loved and read the script.
33:24
Speaker 1: And in the means whom we had been we had
33:26
Speaker 1: been auditioning all of these other kids and none of
33:28
Speaker 1: them were getting it. I mean, looking back the idea
33:31
Speaker 1: that we were we decided to do a television show
33:33
Speaker 1: about a nine year old girl without having the said
33:36
Speaker 1: nine year old girl attack already, who we knew could
33:39
Speaker 1: actually handle this sort of it's crazy that we decided
33:42
Speaker 1: to do that because the show could have been a
33:43
Speaker 1: disaster with the wrong kids. UM. But we ended up
33:46
Speaker 1: getting her and her father to read with John to
33:50
Speaker 1: our director UM on a long distance audition. And the
33:55
Speaker 1: thing that was so remarkable was that Brooklyn and her
33:58
Speaker 1: dad would like correct each other. I have this sort
34:00
Speaker 1: of peer relationship where like, hey, Dad, you missed the
34:03
Speaker 1: line and he's like, oh sorry, And you can see
34:05
Speaker 1: that they really respected each other as colleagues. As much
34:09
Speaker 1: as you know she's he's also her father, and that's
34:11
Speaker 1: exactly the same as the real healthy and her father.
34:14
Speaker 1: They deeply respect each other and they have a very
34:17
Speaker 1: peer like relationships. They're almost like, you know, crime investigative,
34:21
Speaker 1: like crime partners in a lot of ways. The way
34:23
Speaker 1: that they tell stories is almost like the way like
34:25
Speaker 1: people who have been married for fifty years tell stories
34:28
Speaker 1: like remember when you did the thing in the place
34:30
Speaker 1: that Okay, find you tell that part like no, you
34:32
Speaker 1: got that part. And that's very much Brooklyn and her dad,
34:35
Speaker 1: because we knew that Brooklyn would understand what we were
34:38
Speaker 1: writing in terms of like reflecting the real healthy Oh,
34:42
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful. It's just a beautiful UM script. Uh.
34:45
Speaker 1: You know, the one thing I love about watching creative
34:49
Speaker 1: writing is you know, the story, watching the story developed,
34:52
Speaker 1: you know, and so but before we go into the story,
34:55
Speaker 1: let's talk about the real healty. And yeah, and I
34:59
Speaker 1: saw a social media post where you know, she had
35:02
Speaker 1: gotten stop by police officer I believe in Arizona, and
35:05
Speaker 1: so she videotaped that and they posted it and then
35:09
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35:12
Speaker 1: social media, and then she said something about she doesn't
35:14
Speaker 1: do any interviews, and it was really funny watch this
35:18
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35:21
Speaker 1: at a very professional level, talk about that whole that
35:24
Speaker 1: whole relationship. I got all kicked off because I was
35:26
Speaker 1: just laughing watching I just watching the whole relationship fault
35:30
Speaker 1: build itself out on social media and your your interaction
35:33
Speaker 1: and you're a naturally funny person. Dog, I'm just gonna
35:36
Speaker 1: let you thank you. It's really funny, it's really sweet.
35:39
Speaker 1: I mean, so, yes, she is incredible. She's a tiny warrior.
35:44
Speaker 1: And now she's actually not so tiny anymore. She's at
35:48
Speaker 1: years old. Um, but when we met her, she was
35:51
Speaker 1: a tiny warrior. And you know, one of the things
35:53
Speaker 1: that I actually I love about that video that you're
35:55
Speaker 1: talking about, By the way, that's a great example of
35:57
Speaker 1: like using your privilege in a way that your people can't. UM.
36:02
Speaker 1: And I think that even though she's a journalist and
36:04
Speaker 1: she's non biased, I think she's very aware of that.
36:07
Speaker 1: I think that she's aware of what she can and
36:09
Speaker 1: can't do, and feels the obligation to report on those
36:13
Speaker 1: things specifically because she can. UM. One of those things
36:17
Speaker 1: that she said to us was, you know, one of
36:19
Speaker 1: the one of her Even though she doesn't like it
36:21
Speaker 1: when people call her a young journalist, she's just a
36:24
Speaker 1: journalist to her. She's also aware that, like being a
36:28
Speaker 1: young female white child in America, I mean, the people
36:31
Speaker 1: will sort of say and do things around her, they'll
36:34
Speaker 1: let their guard down in a way that they kind
36:36
Speaker 1: of normally wouldn't. And that was I mean, people literally
36:40
Speaker 1: would just confess things to her. You know, she in
36:43
Speaker 1: her tiny town in Pennsylvania. She uncovered a mess ring,
36:48
Speaker 1: she uncovered a vandalism rings. And basically these were just
36:53
Speaker 1: people who didn't take her seriously enough to realize that
36:57
Speaker 1: she was going to be essentially handing them straight into
37:01
Speaker 1: the arms of d S. Sorry. UM. And so we
37:07
Speaker 1: were really just so taken by her, and we were
37:11
Speaker 1: really taken also by, you know, her relationship with her father,
37:16
Speaker 1: who was a daily news reporter UM for many, many
37:19
Speaker 1: years covered homicides in the Bronx and covered Save One Martin,
37:22
Speaker 1: and covered New Town. And he got so disillusioned by
37:26
Speaker 1: the news and the clickbait of it all that he left.
37:31
Speaker 1: He left New York. He took his four girls and
37:34
Speaker 1: his wife and brought them to seal Scow, Pennsylvania, back
37:36
Speaker 1: where he was from, and he could write. He was
37:39
Speaker 1: really depressed. Um. He was supposed to be writing a book.
37:43
Speaker 1: And Hilde, who he had taken to all of these
37:46
Speaker 1: crime scenes, was the only one of his four daughters
37:48
Speaker 1: who had been interested in journalism, started riding her bike
37:51
Speaker 1: around sealing Scrow, Pennsylvania and reporting these very small, very
37:56
Speaker 1: truthful stories, including just down the street, a man killed
37:59
Speaker 1: his wife for the hammer, and she scooped the local
38:02
Speaker 1: paper of that story. UM, and and then those the
38:07
Speaker 1: story went viral, and the comments for the story went viral.
38:10
Speaker 1: The comments were awful. They were all about, you know,
38:12
Speaker 1: you're just a little girl, why aren't you having tea parties?
38:14
Speaker 1: And she's like, if you don't like the news. Why
38:16
Speaker 1: don't you do something about the news? And I love
38:21
Speaker 1: and that brought Matt, her dad out of his depression,
38:25
Speaker 1: and it really brought the whole family. Shining a light
38:28
Speaker 1: on the truth and reporting just the facts brought the
38:32
Speaker 1: whole family back together. So I mean, I don't know
38:34
Speaker 1: how this to be not inspired by that story. You know, well,
38:37
Speaker 1: you do the thing about it. You could be inspired
38:39
Speaker 1: by the store, but how you develop it and make
38:42
Speaker 1: it and maintain some level of realness and also entertainment
38:46
Speaker 1: because this is entertainment, And and then as you built
38:50
Speaker 1: the story out, you know, basically the reason the show
38:53
Speaker 1: worked for me, it really is a parenting show. It's
38:55
Speaker 1: a parenting storyline. It's about it's about a relationship between
38:59
Speaker 1: a coming of age with her her sister, older sister.
39:03
Speaker 1: You have a marriage that's it's it's dysfunctional, that has
39:06
Speaker 1: to find itself, a father, father's son. It's a lot
39:10
Speaker 1: of abc D stories that I felt were really relatable,
39:15
Speaker 1: and it's all sent around It's all centers around this
39:18
Speaker 1: young girl, which is saying stay true to yourself, don't
39:22
Speaker 1: let bullying turn you, don't let the people not understanding you.
39:27
Speaker 1: And even in the story as we go through, there's
39:30
Speaker 1: some conflict with the dad, you know, because he suddenly
39:33
Speaker 1: wants to become a parent, and and and and and
39:36
Speaker 1: and it's really it's really that's what I enjoyed about it.
39:39
Speaker 1: And and I never was bored in the whole process.
39:43
Speaker 1: But it was just watching this young lady developed and
39:46
Speaker 1: then you guys doing that little nice little skills set.
39:48
Speaker 1: She has like a photographic memory type and that's real,
39:53
Speaker 1: that's actually true, has that kind of memory. So it
39:57
Speaker 1: was it was an easy thing to throw in there
39:59
Speaker 1: because it was reality of the of the real kids. Well,
40:03
Speaker 1: all I wanted to just say is this is that
40:05
Speaker 1: you know this series right, you know, I recommended every
40:09
Speaker 1: all my fans on social media, all my fans whatever,
40:12
Speaker 1: Anty thousand um email fan newsletter goes out every Friday,
40:17
Speaker 1: nine am. I'm putting it in that um I from
40:22
Speaker 1: the very beginning, I fell in love with this young lady,
40:25
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Prince. If you guys know anything about them, to
40:28
Speaker 1: talking to my listeners, now look her up. She's a
40:31
Speaker 1: bona fide star and then she cries. She cries immediately,
40:36
Speaker 1: she laughs, immediately, she controls the scene. She knows how
40:40
Speaker 1: to she knows the level. But throughout I think the
40:44
Speaker 1: key in this series she remains a nine she remains
40:47
Speaker 1: a nine year old child, Darry. That was the key
40:49
Speaker 1: for me, you know, because sometimes can't get these these
40:52
Speaker 1: kids actors and they go, you you're an adult. You're
40:54
Speaker 1: not You're not an adult. You nine years old? Right?
40:57
Speaker 1: And I never believe that she was not nine years old.
41:01
Speaker 1: She's just a small your girl. And I bought the
41:04
Speaker 1: storyline that guess what, you know, she learned these things
41:07
Speaker 1: from following her dead on crime scenes. And so all
41:12
Speaker 1: the all the layers that you wanted the story to
41:14
Speaker 1: bring credibility to stories, you definitely put in there. Your
41:17
Speaker 1: your skill as a writer, as a co creator, as
41:20
Speaker 1: a co executive doucer, as show runner, and all excuse me,
41:24
Speaker 1: executive and co show runner shows out and brilliant body
41:28
Speaker 1: at work. So so I just want to stay before
41:30
Speaker 1: the close. So what happens when you do a series, Dora,
41:34
Speaker 1: and then they renew it, they reknew it, do before
41:37
Speaker 1: you even air? What runs? Do your mind? And did
41:39
Speaker 1: you go I don't even know if I'm if I'm
41:44
Speaker 1: supposed to say this, but I'll say it anyway, Like
41:47
Speaker 1: we actually got renewed before we were even i think
41:51
Speaker 1: officially done with the pilot, essentially based on the basis
41:56
Speaker 1: of how the pilot looks like it was turning out
41:58
Speaker 1: and how we had and all the other scripts for
42:01
Speaker 1: the season. So they were judging it based on how
42:02
Speaker 1: the scripts were coming in. So yeah, I mean we
42:05
Speaker 1: were pretty floored. We we were. We were you know,
42:08
Speaker 1: there's those moments where you I mean, it was even
42:16
Speaker 1: more than even more than I'm renewed, although yes, absolutely that,
42:20
Speaker 1: it was also like how did I get this lucky?
42:25
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42:28
Speaker 1: this lucky to live this life and have this opportunity?
42:31
Speaker 1: Like holy craps. So that was really incredible. Um, and
42:36
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately the pandemic happened right in the middle
42:39
Speaker 1: of the second season. But you know, we'll get back
42:42
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42:44
Speaker 1: In the meantime, this has really offered me an opportunity
42:47
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42:50
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42:55
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43:00
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43:03
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43:15
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43:19
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43:22
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43:27
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43:34
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43:41
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43:44
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43:47
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43:53
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43:54
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43:56
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44:00
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44:02
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44:06
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44:13
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47:02
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47:05
Speaker 1: You have seen him play prominent roles in three Spike
47:07
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47:12
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47:15
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47:19
Speaker 1: He'll be next scene in Spike Lee's new Netflix film
47:22
Speaker 1: The Five Bloods. The premiers Friday, June twelve. Please welcome
47:27
Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation. There are Lindo. How are you doing, sir, Well, yeah,
47:33
Speaker 1: right now, I'm in Northern California. Awesome, awesome, Um, I
47:39
Speaker 1: want to get started with this. First of all, I
47:40
Speaker 1: saw the movie and UM, I just wanted to compliment
47:43
Speaker 1: you on this, um, this role. When you get a
47:46
Speaker 1: script like this, sir, what are are there any expectations?
47:50
Speaker 1: Because you have outstanding monologues in it is a tortured
47:54
Speaker 1: soul character. Uh, doesn't have a relationship with the sun
47:58
Speaker 1: and the care in the movie. Tell us about the
48:01
Speaker 1: script when it was, when you received it and as
48:03
Speaker 1: it developed along the way. We're talking about the script
48:05
Speaker 1: The Five Bloods, which will premier Friday, June twelve on Netflix. UM,
48:12
Speaker 1: when I received the script, it was clear to me
48:14
Speaker 1: that it was a very rich uh. Um I was.
48:21
Speaker 1: I was. I feel really good about the fact. That's
48:23
Speaker 1: like it called me and just asked me, offered me
48:28
Speaker 1: the part in the film. Um. Was one stumbling block
48:32
Speaker 1: that I have when I first read the script, which was,
48:36
Speaker 1: UM that the character is such an ardent Uh Trump supporter. Uh,
48:43
Speaker 1: I am not Trump supporter. It was a little bit
48:46
Speaker 1: of a stumbling block, but we got over that. I
48:48
Speaker 1: read the script an additional two or three times and
48:51
Speaker 1: I rationalized in my head, how and why, Um, the
48:57
Speaker 1: character of Paul that I'm playing in the film would
49:00
Speaker 1: arrive at a place where he feels compelled to to
49:03
Speaker 1: vote for this person. UM Larger than that for me.
49:09
Speaker 1: Um Equally, if not more important than that for me
49:12
Speaker 1: is the fact that the more when I read the
49:15
Speaker 1: script the first two or three times, it became really
49:18
Speaker 1: clear to me that Paul is a very large tragic character.
49:24
Speaker 1: You mentioned him being a tortured soul, and my interpretation
49:29
Speaker 1: was that he is a a tragic character in the
49:35
Speaker 1: same way that a lot of Shakespeare's tragic characters, the
49:38
Speaker 1: Hamlets and the Beths and the Othellos and any of
49:42
Speaker 1: those kinds of characters, or the larger characters. And August Wilson,
49:46
Speaker 1: Harold Rumors Um and I related to Paul as being
49:52
Speaker 1: a tragic a large tragic character, and that was really
49:56
Speaker 1: interesting to me um as an actor to kind of
49:59
Speaker 1: investigate it that And so I called back back and
50:03
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'd love to do this, and I'm in.
50:06
Speaker 1: And to your question of how how it was working
50:10
Speaker 1: um on on on the film, it was. It was extraordinary. Um.
50:16
Speaker 1: We had the five of us and I'm including I'm
50:21
Speaker 1: including Chadwick in this. We had a real ch rich bond. Um.
50:27
Speaker 1: I say, the five of us I'm speaking about Clark
50:30
Speaker 1: Peters as Love Jr. Norm Lewis, Jonathan and and Uh
50:36
Speaker 1: and Chadwick. We had a really we formed a really
50:40
Speaker 1: really good bond, and the bond that we had off
50:43
Speaker 1: screen um found its way into the work that we
50:46
Speaker 1: were doing in front of the camera. So overall it
50:49
Speaker 1: was just a very very rich, enriching and deeply gratifying experience. Well,
50:56
Speaker 1: you know, I I when I watched the movie, first
50:58
Speaker 1: of all, it felt like a history lesson to me,
51:01
Speaker 1: which was really which was really great. You know, to
51:04
Speaker 1: understand that because the Vietnam Vietnam War was it was
51:09
Speaker 1: about history and how a lot of how Africans would
51:12
Speaker 1: treat the African Americans would treated and how that era
51:15
Speaker 1: was being dealt with both stateside, and when you were
51:18
Speaker 1: over there fighting for a war that you had no no, no, no,
51:21
Speaker 1: what I said, no beefan And so how how was
51:24
Speaker 1: your take on that when you started? Even when Chadwick Boseman,
51:28
Speaker 1: how how he worked a dialogue I'm talking about Spike
51:31
Speaker 1: Lee into his character which was Storm and Norman when
51:33
Speaker 1: you guys were talking, and it really was brilliantly the
51:37
Speaker 1: way it was. It was It was articulated in the script.
51:39
Speaker 1: Give me your feedback on that, sir. UM. You know
51:44
Speaker 1: this was UM really well articulated, as you say, UM
51:52
Speaker 1: the story. Yes, it was cleanly uh and sharply articulated
51:59
Speaker 1: to turn times of the script that we had to
52:02
Speaker 1: work with. And then on top of that, the work
52:04
Speaker 1: that we put in I'd like to believe further sharpened
52:09
Speaker 1: UM the message. UM. What I had done in preparation
52:16
Speaker 1: for for doing this work, I had spoken with a
52:19
Speaker 1: number of Vietnam vets. UM or two that I spoke
52:23
Speaker 1: with were my cousins. I had two cousins who were
52:26
Speaker 1: uh Inam, both of whom UH suffered stuffer with pd
52:31
Speaker 1: a PTSD, one of my cousins more acutely than the other.
52:36
Speaker 1: But they shared a lot of their experiences with me.
52:41
Speaker 1: And then I UM additionally spoke with I think five
52:47
Speaker 1: four additional Vietnam vets. And then I spoke with U
52:54
Speaker 1: a lady, a major who had been in Iraq, and
52:57
Speaker 1: she spoke with me at length about her experiences with PTSD. So,
53:03
Speaker 1: going into the film, I felt that I had a
53:06
Speaker 1: really good foundation to start working. And as we worked,
53:13
Speaker 1: when when you mentioned some of the monologues, that Chadwick
53:18
Speaker 1: has and the fact that he's he's articulating really clearly
53:22
Speaker 1: from a from a socio political and cultural point of view,
53:26
Speaker 1: that we had no business being there, and and Chadwick's
53:31
Speaker 1: characters going the norm is a man who is attempting
53:35
Speaker 1: to uh, exactly a measure of um, what's the word.
53:43
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the plot of a way,
53:45
Speaker 1: but if we're going to be there fighting this war,
53:49
Speaker 1: we're going to get something out of it for ourselves
53:51
Speaker 1: and more importantly for our people. And that is a
53:55
Speaker 1: central tenant, a central component of what this story is.
54:00
Speaker 1: And so do your question about how it felt working
54:02
Speaker 1: on it? Um, it felt it felt right, itselt. You know,
54:07
Speaker 1: There's there's something that is really extraordinary for an actor,
54:10
Speaker 1: and that is when you're working on the two that
54:13
Speaker 1: you believe in. And I believed in this material. I
54:20
Speaker 1: believed in what we were doing as a unit, um,
54:24
Speaker 1: and I think all of us did, and certainly I
54:27
Speaker 1: believed in Spike's ambition to tell this story in the
54:31
Speaker 1: way that he did. So to a question about how
54:35
Speaker 1: I felt about, you know, um, Chadwick's monologues, they just
54:39
Speaker 1: felt right. And our job then was to present those
54:46
Speaker 1: words in as um dramatically compelling away as we could.
54:52
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my man darry Or Lindo, one of
54:55
Speaker 1: the stars of The Five Blood. The premiers Friday, June
54:58
Speaker 1: twelfth on Netflix. The I blow us about movie about
55:01
Speaker 1: five guys who served together in Vietnam, But it's also
55:04
Speaker 1: a movie about black history, which we just talked about.
55:06
Speaker 1: It plays out like a reunion movie, but there are
55:09
Speaker 1: it's really also a treasure hunting movie too, correct, That's right? Uh,
55:15
Speaker 1: And I think one of the one and again without
55:18
Speaker 1: giving the product way, you think one of the real
55:25
Speaker 1: positive components of this story is that it kind of
55:29
Speaker 1: crosses a number of genres. Right. You mentioned the treasure hunts,
55:35
Speaker 1: You mentioned the the fact that it's it's there are
55:39
Speaker 1: historical components that we're addressing in the film. For myself,
55:44
Speaker 1: I also think of the film as a love story
55:48
Speaker 1: between these five men. The five brothers have a connection,
55:52
Speaker 1: a deep, deep, deep, deep, deep connection, and out of
55:56
Speaker 1: that connection, they are compelled, um to go back and
56:00
Speaker 1: and set the record straight. Um. So you know, it
56:07
Speaker 1: covers a number of different genres. Um. Ultimately, though, I
56:12
Speaker 1: in my own personal opinion, I think it's a love
56:14
Speaker 1: story between these these guys and with regard to the
56:18
Speaker 1: historical components, one of the most critical, one of the
56:22
Speaker 1: critically important components and aspects of this film is the
56:26
Speaker 1: fact that you have these five cats who are front
56:30
Speaker 1: and center in this quote unquote um war UM, this
56:36
Speaker 1: conflict related story. Because because because of the fact that
56:42
Speaker 1: it's said squarely in the center of the Vietnam War UM,
56:49
Speaker 1: it doesn't have is being told from their point of view,
56:54
Speaker 1: and that rarely, rarely happens, almost never happened. You know.
56:58
Speaker 1: The thing. The thing I wanted to make a comment
57:00
Speaker 1: and other reasons I think important. It's it's it's important
57:04
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and it's important to the fact that
57:07
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to see you in a lot of
57:09
Speaker 1: great roles. You know, you have a brilliant career. I
57:13
Speaker 1: will tell you what I saw you doing this movie.
57:17
Speaker 1: The monologue you were delivering dead on into this into
57:21
Speaker 1: the into the camera was incredible acting. And I pray
57:27
Speaker 1: that I see you rewarded for your acting effort in
57:30
Speaker 1: this movie. It was that good, there are it was
57:33
Speaker 1: that good, fantastic or that And that's why I said
57:37
Speaker 1: it was a tortured soul to me because of the
57:39
Speaker 1: fact that you know, the relationship that you couldn't understand
57:42
Speaker 1: what your son you know, and we learned about that,
57:46
Speaker 1: you know, the problem that you was coming back into
57:47
Speaker 1: a country that you didn't feel comfortable while you know,
57:51
Speaker 1: even though there was love, that was still a disconnect
57:54
Speaker 1: between you and your boys, and it kept trying to
57:56
Speaker 1: wrap their arms around you. And we later all find
57:59
Speaker 1: out why you're emotionally distraught like the way you are.
58:03
Speaker 1: But the journey, can you can you get get a
58:06
Speaker 1: little bit more detail about that journey Because I'm not
58:09
Speaker 1: an actor. All I can do is just watch great
58:12
Speaker 1: moments on screen. And when I saw you take all
58:15
Speaker 1: these levels, these anger, anger levels, these happy levels, like
58:19
Speaker 1: the nightclub scene when you would dancing. I'm gonna tell
58:21
Speaker 1: you something. I already told Clark he couldn't dance. I
58:25
Speaker 1: told I said, anybody doing the chicken in the movie
58:29
Speaker 1: can't dance. I'm just gonna tell you that right there now,
58:31
Speaker 1: there are you can't do the chicken. You can't dance.
58:34
Speaker 1: And then uh, I said, he was trying to be cool.
58:37
Speaker 1: But all the brothers who had their act together there
58:40
Speaker 1: are it was you. You had the smooth. He was
58:43
Speaker 1: on the left hand side, he was smoothing and up
58:46
Speaker 1: there on that Marvin Gate song, I said, my man,
58:49
Speaker 1: that's him right there. It was those fun moments in
58:52
Speaker 1: a movie that showed me the love that you were
58:55
Speaker 1: talking about. That played throughout each moment in the movie,
59:00
Speaker 1: even when you were emotionally destruct they still came to
59:03
Speaker 1: your restu trying to understand what's wrong. What's wrong? Let
59:06
Speaker 1: us in, brother, Let us in brother. That's what I
59:09
Speaker 1: was just saying. It just it. It takes it took
59:11
Speaker 1: a moment for you to wrap your head around each
59:13
Speaker 1: scene or just or just took each the character. I'm
59:16
Speaker 1: a player and just staying character the whole time. Can
59:18
Speaker 1: you talk to us about that? Um? Yeah, Before I
59:23
Speaker 1: speak to that, I just wanted to say something about
59:25
Speaker 1: because you mentioned it a couple of times, the relationship
59:28
Speaker 1: between myself and my son played by Jonathan What was
59:32
Speaker 1: gratifying about um investigating that relationship in the film is
59:39
Speaker 1: the fact, clearly as you as you accurately mentioned, clearly,
59:44
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tension between myself and my son. However,
59:52
Speaker 1: what was what was what was rewarding for me affirming
59:57
Speaker 1: is the fact that fundamentally there is love there between
1:00:01
Speaker 1: these two men, myself and my son. And even though
1:00:05
Speaker 1: it was a very very fraught relationship. UM, what was
1:00:13
Speaker 1: what made it, what made it interesting to work on
1:00:17
Speaker 1: in the film, UM, is the fact that it was
1:00:19
Speaker 1: clear to me that there was love there and that
1:00:24
Speaker 1: unflicked between the love and the lack of love, and
1:00:29
Speaker 1: and the and the dislike and the frustration felt very
1:00:32
Speaker 1: very human and very real to me. And that made
1:00:36
Speaker 1: it rich to UH to work on in the film.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: UM with what was your original question? Because I kind
1:00:45
Speaker 1: of veered off. You know, it was great, but I
1:00:48
Speaker 1: wanted to I want to go to another moment because
1:00:50
Speaker 1: you've answered my question. It was the moment where because
1:00:53
Speaker 1: I was talking to the guys and it was just
1:00:55
Speaker 1: talking about your acting, and it was it was, I'm
1:00:58
Speaker 1: not giving away the movie when you walked off from
1:01:00
Speaker 1: the guys. You like the moment when you walked out,
1:01:02
Speaker 1: walked off. They say a storm, they said a storm.
1:01:06
Speaker 1: Suddenly we're just ugly head in that moment. But you
1:01:09
Speaker 1: have to stay in character and and and and and
1:01:12
Speaker 1: play it out. You can you explain to me exactly
1:01:14
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. What, Oh, you're saying this
1:01:18
Speaker 1: is what the other two actors references, Yes, saying that moment. Yeah,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: we walked to say this. Let me just say this
1:01:25
Speaker 1: about that, about that that moment in the film that
1:01:29
Speaker 1: was that was a straight up gifts from God. And
1:01:34
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is that as I was
1:01:38
Speaker 1: walking away from um, from my compadres in the film, literally, man,
1:01:43
Speaker 1: the sky opened up and there was a storm. It
1:01:47
Speaker 1: started to storm. It started, I mean the sky and
1:01:50
Speaker 1: it just started torrential torrential rain. The wind was kicking up,
1:01:54
Speaker 1: and we played through that right right, And trudeos to
1:01:58
Speaker 1: trudos to the sound the engineer because he got got
1:02:03
Speaker 1: it right. He able to record all the dialogue that
1:02:08
Speaker 1: was going on as I was walking away from them.
1:02:11
Speaker 1: The fact that there was this added dimension of the
1:02:14
Speaker 1: sky opening up and the fact that the scene ended
1:02:17
Speaker 1: up playing out in a storm that Spike and all
1:02:22
Speaker 1: the technical crew captured on film felt to me that
1:02:27
Speaker 1: that the film was anointed. Man when we when he said,
1:02:30
Speaker 1: when Spike finally said cut and I walked back to
1:02:34
Speaker 1: Lord towards Spike, and Spike had this huge grin on
1:02:38
Speaker 1: his sad jumping up and down love and I and
1:02:43
Speaker 1: it felt it just felt right. And I didn't say
1:02:47
Speaker 1: this to him in the moment, but internally I was
1:02:50
Speaker 1: feeling that was an anointed moment. It was because we
1:02:54
Speaker 1: could not have entered that, We could not have planned
1:02:57
Speaker 1: for the storm to start right at the end of
1:02:59
Speaker 1: that scene. Fact that that's going good start right at
1:03:04
Speaker 1: the end of the scene, for me, was indicative of
1:03:06
Speaker 1: the fact that this work was anointed. And having seen
1:03:10
Speaker 1: the film, um, I fulfilled that the work is annointed.
1:03:13
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something when I because you know,
1:03:16
Speaker 1: I got a huge background in television and film and
1:03:19
Speaker 1: producing and all that. So I'm watching this scene right
1:03:21
Speaker 1: and I'm with my wife, I'm going, how they getting
1:03:24
Speaker 1: that rain like that? That? I it waste? It was
1:03:30
Speaker 1: called It's what we call a happy accident. Man. There,
1:03:36
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where the water truck is.
1:03:38
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how did they drop this
1:03:39
Speaker 1: water like this? I'm going, and you in it, and
1:03:42
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, that was a blessed man because you
1:03:46
Speaker 1: stayed in the moment though there are you stayed in it? Now?
1:03:49
Speaker 1: We all did. We all did. And one of the
1:03:52
Speaker 1: things that really really astounded me was the fact that
1:03:56
Speaker 1: the sound the sound guy right, um acted he got
1:04:01
Speaker 1: it somehow. Um. And this is this is a test
1:04:05
Speaker 1: he just got to be a testament to his skill level.
1:04:08
Speaker 1: He was able to set the audio balance in such
1:04:12
Speaker 1: a way that the fact that it was storming and
1:04:15
Speaker 1: raining and the wind was kicking up and he still
1:04:18
Speaker 1: was able to get Um, he still was able to
1:04:21
Speaker 1: get the audio quality. Now, you know, that was the
1:04:25
Speaker 1: scene that I did have to go into the studio
1:04:26
Speaker 1: and do a d R. You know, I had to
1:04:28
Speaker 1: re record that tale ended of the scene. Still when
1:04:32
Speaker 1: I stirst saw it on production, he had captured it
1:04:37
Speaker 1: and you know, um, it was just anointed. Man, I'm
1:04:40
Speaker 1: just gonna an expert. I didn't catch it, didn't see
1:04:44
Speaker 1: the I didn't see any at all. I heard it
1:04:47
Speaker 1: was played that you know the thing that I'm very
1:04:50
Speaker 1: I'm very first of all, thank you for being on
1:04:52
Speaker 1: the call with me, because when you see a project,
1:04:54
Speaker 1: you get to get into the mind of an actor.
1:04:56
Speaker 1: It's kind of like an acting class that I and
1:04:58
Speaker 1: then I can't act. So so anbody who's listening this
1:05:00
Speaker 1: really should gather some nuggets about how to do it right.
1:05:03
Speaker 1: Talking up, talking to all three of you guys, today
1:05:06
Speaker 1: has been a blessing of four over four decades of
1:05:09
Speaker 1: acting and directing and writing skills are being played out
1:05:11
Speaker 1: in a movie of this caliber, you know, And I
1:05:14
Speaker 1: just want everybody I'm talking about I'm talking about it.
1:05:16
Speaker 1: It was The Five Bloods consisted of Storm and Norm,
1:05:19
Speaker 1: which was played by he will Always be the Black Panther,
1:05:21
Speaker 1: Chadwick Balls Bozeman. You have Paul played by Darryl Roylando.
1:05:25
Speaker 1: That's gonna pick you too, right now, and he was
1:05:27
Speaker 1: played by Norm Lewis. Oh, this was Clark Peters. Melvin
1:05:30
Speaker 1: was Isaiah watched Isaiah Whitlock Jr. And then you have
1:05:34
Speaker 1: Paul's son played by Johnny Majors. And so when I
1:05:38
Speaker 1: Jonathan Major, excuse me, because you know the thing about
1:05:41
Speaker 1: it is that when I when I look at an
1:05:43
Speaker 1: individual like you, and we do bodies of work. And
1:05:47
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be complimentary here. And because Spike Lee
1:05:50
Speaker 1: said in the article that you know, I didn't have
1:05:52
Speaker 1: a c G I budget to make the guys look
1:05:54
Speaker 1: younger in the flashback scenes. And I told the guys
1:05:58
Speaker 1: earlier whenever I think of my past, I only only
1:06:01
Speaker 1: see the people that I see, which are always younger,
1:06:04
Speaker 1: and so so that means that I'm still at my
1:06:07
Speaker 1: age when I'm looking, when I'm thinking about that moment.
1:06:09
Speaker 1: And so the acting that you guys were doing was
1:06:13
Speaker 1: so fantastic. If you guys would have been made younger,
1:06:17
Speaker 1: I'd got caught up into oh he doesn't look like that.
1:06:19
Speaker 1: Oh they did that because you guys stayed your age
1:06:22
Speaker 1: and stayed the moment and stayed the emotion. It carried
1:06:26
Speaker 1: the scenes through for me, and the reality stayed the reality.
1:06:29
Speaker 1: And so I've alread just let you guys, And that's
1:06:33
Speaker 1: a very good point. That's that's actually that's a great
1:06:35
Speaker 1: point because have we been, you know, be aged, you
1:06:38
Speaker 1: would have been looking at the technical aspect that it happened,
1:06:43
Speaker 1: and I would have been taken out of the story.
1:06:46
Speaker 1: So I think this, I think that's a great point.
1:06:48
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that in terms of playing the scene, Um,
1:06:53
Speaker 1: so th are reading it in the script and then
1:06:56
Speaker 1: playing the scenes, it did not make any difference to
1:06:59
Speaker 1: deal with is parent age are different because playing the
1:07:05
Speaker 1: truth of the scene, none of the scenes with Chadwick,
1:07:08
Speaker 1: those flapping, those flashback scenes, as far as I'm concerned,
1:07:11
Speaker 1: none of us, um, none of us, Mr Bead And
1:07:14
Speaker 1: it was just about playing the truth of the scene,
1:07:16
Speaker 1: you know. And I want to say this too, and
1:07:18
Speaker 1: it goes back to when you say the love story,
1:07:20
Speaker 1: because the love that that Storm and Norm had, that's
1:07:25
Speaker 1: Chadwick's character for you guys as a leader, the best
1:07:29
Speaker 1: damn soldier that ever lived it in the Vietnam War,
1:07:32
Speaker 1: that's what he was proclaimed. And and he held you guys.
1:07:36
Speaker 1: He was the glue that held you guys together. The
1:07:39
Speaker 1: guy just told you you're gonna get back, that told you,
1:07:42
Speaker 1: you know, we deserve our own level of reparations here,
1:07:45
Speaker 1: you know. And and it was that journey of conversation,
1:07:50
Speaker 1: that journey of the hand slapping. Let's talk forget that
1:07:53
Speaker 1: that people think started now when they look at the
1:07:55
Speaker 1: NBA and lebron them during all those multi levels of
1:07:58
Speaker 1: hand slapping. Didn't know that started back there with us. Okay,
1:08:02
Speaker 1: then didn't know that that was something that was not
1:08:04
Speaker 1: something new the last five years they've been saying on
1:08:06
Speaker 1: in the NBA on the regular basis. That's that's what
1:08:08
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I I appreciate the time you're taken
1:08:12
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1:08:14
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1:08:17
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1:08:22
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1:08:25
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1:08:36
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1:08:39
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1:08:41
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1:08:50
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Speaker 1: is a self proclaimed original bad girl of comedy. You
1:10:32
Speaker 1: have seen her in a story born Star Is Born,
1:10:35
Speaker 1: where she shared the screen with Lady Gaga and Bradley
1:10:37
Speaker 1: Cooper Dolan. Night is My Name, starring comedy legend Eddie Murphy.
1:10:42
Speaker 1: She's also part of the cast of Coming to America Too,
1:10:44
Speaker 1: appearing in the sequel I Got the hook up to
1:10:47
Speaker 1: with my main master p plus a new show Time
1:10:49
Speaker 1: comedy special which I just really saw and laughed my
1:10:52
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1:10:55
Speaker 1: she was in two of my movies that I executive
1:10:57
Speaker 1: to produce, Thinking like a Man and Thinking like a
1:10:59
Speaker 1: man to please walk in to money making conversation for
1:11:02
Speaker 1: the very first time, Loue Nell. Hey, how you doing that?
1:11:06
Speaker 1: Lou Nell? Hey, listen. I gotta clarify something. Though I'm
1:11:11
Speaker 1: not self proclaimed the original backgirl of comedy, that nickname
1:11:16
Speaker 1: was given to me. Never be so cocky is to
1:11:19
Speaker 1: say that, But that name was given to me. Well,
1:11:22
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What does that mean when you
1:11:24
Speaker 1: say the original bad girl of comedy that was given
1:11:26
Speaker 1: to you? What were you doing that made you get
1:11:29
Speaker 1: that name? Well? Rick Sullivan, who was a comedy promoter
1:11:33
Speaker 1: back California. Yeah, Rick gave me that name many many
1:11:37
Speaker 1: years ago, and I guess he gave it to me
1:11:41
Speaker 1: because you know, um, well, several reasons. I was a
1:11:45
Speaker 1: bad girl. I was a bad girl, um sphytisically, you know.
1:11:49
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of little bar site
1:11:53
Speaker 1: like that. I was clipped quick to slap that they
1:11:56
Speaker 1: said something wrong back in the day, my suggar hand
1:12:01
Speaker 1: now right. And but also because I was really really
1:12:08
Speaker 1: um I guess bold in my statements and my delivery
1:12:13
Speaker 1: back in the day. And there wasn't a whole lot
1:12:16
Speaker 1: of women who were talking as reckless as I was
1:12:19
Speaker 1: then that you know, there was there was those people
1:12:22
Speaker 1: who had um very um direct uh opinion of course,
1:12:31
Speaker 1: you know, but as when that's aggressive is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:12:36
Speaker 1: That's what I remember about you. You know you you
1:12:39
Speaker 1: hit that stage. You were short, but you are a dynamite,
1:12:42
Speaker 1: you d you're a powder kid out there and you
1:12:45
Speaker 1: and and then and you know you you command the
1:12:47
Speaker 1: stage too. You always could. Plus you had that gravelly
1:12:50
Speaker 1: voice which made people listen to you and you and
1:12:53
Speaker 1: you were you are a character and it really always,
1:12:56
Speaker 1: like said, the interesting thing about it is that, uh,
1:12:59
Speaker 1: I've I've watched your career, you know, I lived in
1:13:02
Speaker 1: l A from ninten ninety finally moved to law to
1:13:05
Speaker 1: New York in two thousand five, and I started managing
1:13:08
Speaker 1: Steve Harving two thousand So I got I get to
1:13:11
Speaker 1: I got to see your career, just like I got
1:13:12
Speaker 1: to see Kevin Hard's career in a lot of talent
1:13:14
Speaker 1: of the people who are who have risen to two
1:13:18
Speaker 1: levels that they are just exploding and really popular and recognizable,
1:13:21
Speaker 1: not only just in social media but on television. And
1:13:24
Speaker 1: so you know when I when I reached out to
1:13:27
Speaker 1: my staff and say I want to interview through now
1:13:29
Speaker 1: you know it's it. You know, it wasn't about that
1:13:32
Speaker 1: I've never talked to you or I never never sat
1:13:35
Speaker 1: down and you never shook your hand. It's just if
1:13:37
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of what you are accomplishing
1:13:40
Speaker 1: and who what you represent and you represent on stage
1:13:43
Speaker 1: to me honesty, Well, I thank you for that, because
1:13:49
Speaker 1: I do try to keep it honest. It's just easier
1:13:52
Speaker 1: to be honest than it is to be fake and
1:13:54
Speaker 1: a liar. It's it's easier to be that in my
1:13:58
Speaker 1: real life and in my stage persona. I've never been
1:14:02
Speaker 1: a jokey, joke type of comic. I don't tell jokes
1:14:06
Speaker 1: like Michael Collyer, I think is the king of joke telling.
1:14:10
Speaker 1: That's true, but I don't. I don't tell jokes. I
1:14:12
Speaker 1: tell stories like Posby and like George Cornelin and stuff
1:14:17
Speaker 1: like that. And so that's why it's always been hard
1:14:19
Speaker 1: for me to do something like Artinio or or something
1:14:24
Speaker 1: where I have to be on network television, my house
1:14:26
Speaker 1: six minutes, my setups might take sit right right right. Yeah,
1:14:31
Speaker 1: that's been difficult for me, but I was able to
1:14:34
Speaker 1: do it because you know, when you're presented with a challenge,
1:14:37
Speaker 1: you you need to step up and do it. I
1:14:40
Speaker 1: have been able to do it, but it's it's difficult
1:14:42
Speaker 1: for me. Well, the thing about it is that how
1:14:45
Speaker 1: do you is it? As an actress? Why would you
1:14:47
Speaker 1: describe you said? Are you a character actress or your
1:14:50
Speaker 1: comedic actress? Or what type of actress are you? I'm
1:14:54
Speaker 1: basically a comedic actress. But I did a lot of
1:14:57
Speaker 1: theater before I ever did film television. So I have
1:15:01
Speaker 1: done musicals and I have done dramatic acting, and I
1:15:06
Speaker 1: there's only one movie I think I've done where I
1:15:09
Speaker 1: really was straight dramatic and not comedic. At all, and
1:15:13
Speaker 1: that was Never Die Alone Robbie Reid cast me and
1:15:16
Speaker 1: Never Die Alone with d MX. You know, d MS
1:15:20
Speaker 1: is no joke, and so that was all about drugs
1:15:24
Speaker 1: and murder and stuff like that. So I never did
1:15:27
Speaker 1: any comedy in that, But I taught myself a comedic
1:15:29
Speaker 1: actress because it's just my mind is wired so that
1:15:34
Speaker 1: I see the humor and a lot of things and
1:15:38
Speaker 1: that's my comfort zone. But I'm sure that at some
1:15:42
Speaker 1: point in time my career, I will be approached to
1:15:46
Speaker 1: do dramatic acting again. And I always have the problem.
1:15:52
Speaker 1: I think that if I go too deep that I
1:15:54
Speaker 1: may not come back out. You know, if I had
1:15:56
Speaker 1: to h play you know, have I had to do
1:16:01
Speaker 1: something and like Selma, or if I had to do
1:16:03
Speaker 1: something and uh like you know, Roots or something like that,
1:16:08
Speaker 1: I think it would be difficult for me to go
1:16:09
Speaker 1: home and turn that off at night, right right right,
1:16:16
Speaker 1: They can get too deep into the character. I'm speaking
1:16:18
Speaker 1: to Little new Uh the original Bad Girl comedy. Um.
1:16:21
Speaker 1: She started in such movies that you were familiar with
1:16:24
Speaker 1: the stars born Ladies guy Guy Bradley Cooper in an
1:16:26
Speaker 1: incredible movie Dolmatt is My Name Eddie Murphy. I love
1:16:30
Speaker 1: that movie. We're gonna talk about that in a minute.
1:16:32
Speaker 1: And coming into the much anticipated Coming to America too. Uh,
1:16:36
Speaker 1: you never left the stage as a stand up. You
1:16:38
Speaker 1: have a comedy special that you can catch right now
1:16:40
Speaker 1: with call the Funny Funny Women of a Certain Age.
1:16:44
Speaker 1: That's and you have a couple of movies that have
1:16:46
Speaker 1: come up as well. Let's talk. Let's go back and
1:16:48
Speaker 1: talk about see to me, you're just naturally funny to me.
1:16:51
Speaker 1: So if somebody gives you a serious line the way
1:16:54
Speaker 1: you just twitsch words where you look, it can come
1:16:57
Speaker 1: out funny. And so so you're telling me that when
1:17:00
Speaker 1: you were cast on in The Stars Born, you were
1:17:03
Speaker 1: casting for comedy relief. No, if you remember, I only
1:17:08
Speaker 1: really had about seven seconds of screen trying and the
1:17:12
Speaker 1: Star Is Born. And that was strictly because I have
1:17:15
Speaker 1: a relationship with Bradley Cooper and he said, you know,
1:17:19
Speaker 1: I want to throw you mail in him Bradley want
1:17:22
Speaker 1: Bradley loves comedians. I mean there was Andrew Clay was
1:17:26
Speaker 1: in that, and and myself and Eddie Griffin. So it
1:17:34
Speaker 1: was just a little quick cameo, you know, I wasn't
1:17:38
Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't put in there for comic relief because
1:17:41
Speaker 1: I wasn't in there long enough. But most of the
1:17:43
Speaker 1: pictures that I do get cast, and that's that's what
1:17:46
Speaker 1: I'm there. I'm gonna just tell you this. I wasn't
1:17:48
Speaker 1: in the movie. There's a whole lot of people went
1:17:50
Speaker 1: in there for one second and the star is born.
1:17:53
Speaker 1: Lu Nell. Okay, you were in the movie. Okay, and
1:17:57
Speaker 1: and and got a credit in the movie. And I
1:18:00
Speaker 1: guess I saw you in the movie because I saw
1:18:03
Speaker 1: the movie three times. I wanted to. I see the
1:18:05
Speaker 1: beginning of it, that I see the middle, that I
1:18:07
Speaker 1: catched the end, and then I come back and see
1:18:09
Speaker 1: the whole movie and go, wow, I missed that, Paul.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: So I saw you in the movie. And so I
1:18:14
Speaker 1: always tell me one thing I always knew about you,
1:18:17
Speaker 1: even though you never spoke to me. You never saw me.
1:18:20
Speaker 1: I saw a humble person. Did I Did I misread you? No,
1:18:25
Speaker 1: you didn't misread me. Um. And I think that one
1:18:29
Speaker 1: of the only reasons that we really never spoke to
1:18:31
Speaker 1: found it because whenever I saw you, most of the time,
1:18:35
Speaker 1: you were so immersed in the Steve or you know,
1:18:40
Speaker 1: the kings of comedy you know, and and I would
1:18:43
Speaker 1: be backstage and you know, it ain't like listen, it
1:18:46
Speaker 1: ain't like ste you didn't talk to me either. It
1:18:49
Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, you ignored me. But there was
1:18:52
Speaker 1: just so much around them at the moment that there
1:18:56
Speaker 1: wasn't time for us to click. I I know that, Um,
1:19:03
Speaker 1: you know, it's easiest for me to be in the
1:19:05
Speaker 1: comedy zone. I know that I can do dramatic acting
1:19:10
Speaker 1: because like I said, I did theater before I ever
1:19:13
Speaker 1: did um anything else. Yes, but my my, uh, you know,
1:19:20
Speaker 1: A Star is Born, I was into Academy Award nominated films.
1:19:24
Speaker 1: A Star is Born was nominated for the Academy Award.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: I was able to go to the Golden Growth. I
1:19:29
Speaker 1: was able to go to the Stackward and so was Borat.
1:19:32
Speaker 1: You know, people forget about to us about that because
1:19:35
Speaker 1: that's really was your big moment, right well yeah, but
1:19:38
Speaker 1: black black people didn't latch on the boat and still
1:19:42
Speaker 1: have not the subside, but most didn't. That was like
1:19:45
Speaker 1: a big thing. You know. That got me a lot
1:19:48
Speaker 1: of attention in Europe and stuff like that because Sasha
1:19:51
Speaker 1: being from you know, uh London, me belie. Um, you know,
1:19:58
Speaker 1: I was really big with the whole Ali g thing
1:20:00
Speaker 1: and everything like that. Cluss On the same time that
1:20:04
Speaker 1: boor I came out, I was on tour with Catt Williams.
1:20:08
Speaker 1: So it's like I had a black audience that I
1:20:12
Speaker 1: had this white one, and then I'm just saying that
1:20:15
Speaker 1: was about doing bor At was that six months after
1:20:18
Speaker 1: the film came out, I was under guig order. I
1:20:23
Speaker 1: couldn't tell nobody that I wasn't the Protestant too, because
1:20:26
Speaker 1: I would reach my contract and here in l A,
1:20:29
Speaker 1: you could be talking to anybody in the bar and
1:20:31
Speaker 1: you say like that, what you don't know is they
1:20:33
Speaker 1: worked for the movie company or they sleeping when somebody
1:20:36
Speaker 1: worked when we would company and the kill and then
1:20:38
Speaker 1: you know you're in trouble. So for six months when
1:20:41
Speaker 1: I went out, there was people who see me in
1:20:44
Speaker 1: the bar to be like and you right, that's amazing.
1:20:51
Speaker 1: I also didn't get to do any of the promotional stuff.
1:20:54
Speaker 1: Sasha and Kim Davidian who played Azamat, they got to
1:20:58
Speaker 1: go on you know, Jay Lenod, they got to go
1:21:00
Speaker 1: I'm there, They got to go on back and talk
1:21:02
Speaker 1: about the movie, and I didn't get to do any
1:21:04
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So I could have been that had
1:21:07
Speaker 1: my quote unquote tifany had this moment. But I get
1:21:10
Speaker 1: I got shut down a couple of times. Last year, Uh,
1:21:14
Speaker 1: the great movie came out called Dolan Is My Name,
1:21:18
Speaker 1: starring my man Eddie Murphy. Uh. It's kind of interesting
1:21:22
Speaker 1: because I'm a former stand up comedian, so Dolomite had
1:21:26
Speaker 1: an impact on me, and so so watching that movie
1:21:30
Speaker 1: is almost kind of like watching a bit of my
1:21:33
Speaker 1: life because I know where I met Dolomite. I performed
1:21:36
Speaker 1: with Dolomite, and so he had a place in my
1:21:39
Speaker 1: heart and and I got to grow, and then I
1:21:42
Speaker 1: got to see you Lunelle performing a very very funny character, uh,
1:21:47
Speaker 1: opposite Eddie Murphy and hold your own when you go.
1:21:51
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy's kind of like the Michael Jordan's stand up
1:21:53
Speaker 1: comedy to me. Okay, so when you're sharing the screen
1:21:56
Speaker 1: with somebody like Eddie Murphy, do you what are your
1:21:59
Speaker 1: thoughts when you when you get catching a role like that?
1:22:01
Speaker 1: Do you are you nervous? Do you feel you have
1:22:03
Speaker 1: to step off? Do you do you what? What? What
1:22:05
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Right there? Lou Nell, Well, I must
1:22:10
Speaker 1: say that had I not already had a relationship with Eddie.
1:22:17
Speaker 1: It would have been a total mind mind. You know
1:22:20
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because he is the goat. Like for me,
1:22:23
Speaker 1: there's Richard and there's Eddie in that order, and then
1:22:28
Speaker 1: there's everybody up. Um. I knew Eddie socially. I had
1:22:33
Speaker 1: been the parties with Eddie and stuff like that. And
1:22:36
Speaker 1: Eddie knew me because I was very good friends with Charlie,
1:22:41
Speaker 1: Charlie Rest in Peace, Charlie Back, Charlie and I made
1:22:45
Speaker 1: movie together. Charlie and I did projects together. Charlie and I,
1:22:50
Speaker 1: you know, would kick it together. I went to go
1:22:53
Speaker 1: see him during the Black and Brown comedy get down
1:22:56
Speaker 1: with him and l and Jeorge Lopez and and um.
1:23:02
Speaker 1: You know, so Eddie knew knew me like for years.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: And I even have pictures here in the house with
1:23:09
Speaker 1: me and Eddie and all of that. Also, I knew
1:23:15
Speaker 1: Rudy as well. I just was had in my hand
1:23:19
Speaker 1: the Rudy Raymore Dolomite bobble head that Rudy gave me.
1:23:24
Speaker 1: Rudy gave your baba head. He gave me a backscratcher.
1:23:27
Speaker 1: He gave me some albums that were rated five X,
1:23:31
Speaker 1: like not triple eggs like five X and he gave
1:23:35
Speaker 1: me his whole video collection Pete which saw The Devil
1:23:38
Speaker 1: Sun Law and Dolomite is my name, I mean Dolomite
1:23:43
Speaker 1: and um, you know the like three others. So one
1:23:48
Speaker 1: of the things I knew for a fact is that
1:23:51
Speaker 1: Rudy did not want to be forgotten, you know. And
1:23:55
Speaker 1: what my agent came to me and was like, I
1:23:58
Speaker 1: got an audition for you to day and the movie
1:24:02
Speaker 1: is called Dolomite, it's my name. And I said, Dolomite
1:24:08
Speaker 1: making a movie about do mate? Is this for real?
1:24:10
Speaker 1: Y sering? And they were like that and um. Then
1:24:14
Speaker 1: they told me that it started Eddie Murphy and I
1:24:16
Speaker 1: was like, get out of here. I know I'm not
1:24:18
Speaker 1: gonna get to work with Eddie. Like come on, y'all
1:24:21
Speaker 1: just jerking my chain. You must just have people you
1:24:24
Speaker 1: want to audition and you just need to you know,
1:24:27
Speaker 1: the room, just running them through the room. They know
1:24:29
Speaker 1: what they got they want right right right. So I
1:24:36
Speaker 1: went to the audition and actually the audition that the
1:24:39
Speaker 1: part I was on Disney for was a part of
1:24:41
Speaker 1: Lady Read, not the part that I yet our audition
1:24:47
Speaker 1: for that role, and I had seven callbacks. We even
1:24:51
Speaker 1: did a screen test with the wig and with the
1:24:54
Speaker 1: outfit and everything like that. As it turns out, the
1:24:58
Speaker 1: role went to the vine Joy hand out, which is fine.
1:25:01
Speaker 1: I think she did a fine job and I like her. Yes,
1:25:05
Speaker 1: she's an old theater actress. That's why nobody knows who
1:25:08
Speaker 1: she is because theater is great. But you can You
1:25:11
Speaker 1: can do a chose a week for ten years on
1:25:14
Speaker 1: Broadway and do thirty minutes on television, and more people
1:25:19
Speaker 1: will know you in that thirty minutes than will will
1:25:22
Speaker 1: in the ten years you are Broadway. That's just a fact.
1:25:25
Speaker 1: So Davondo Aroundo is a theater actors. Then Craig Brewer,
1:25:30
Speaker 1: who had done Puzzle and Flow and did told them
1:25:33
Speaker 1: that is my name and has directors coming to America
1:25:37
Speaker 1: the quest. Craig liked me so much that he didn't
1:25:40
Speaker 1: want to let me go, and and he saw my
1:25:44
Speaker 1: dimensions and everything like that. Knew I could take direction
1:25:47
Speaker 1: after auditions seven times, so he gave me the part
1:25:49
Speaker 1: of Eddie's hands. So I was very very happy to
1:25:52
Speaker 1: have that because I didn't have to share the room
1:25:54
Speaker 1: with a bunch of cats. It was just Eddie and myself.
1:25:57
Speaker 1: Eddie and myself and I had a great time. And
1:26:01
Speaker 1: fast forward to Craig Brewer is now doing Coming to
1:26:06
Speaker 1: America and I didn't have to auditions for that cuign
1:26:11
Speaker 1: so I'm very happy to be in too. Eddie Murphy
1:26:13
Speaker 1: movies back to back and there's Coming to America's sequel
1:26:17
Speaker 1: is gonna blow everybody's mind. I was just telling my
1:26:20
Speaker 1: um Instagram live audience earlier that there's some fake flyers
1:26:26
Speaker 1: going around about Coming to America. They had Tiffany Hattish
1:26:29
Speaker 1: on them. Tiffany's not in the movie. They said it's
1:26:32
Speaker 1: coming out August seven. It doesn't come out to December.
1:26:36
Speaker 1: They said it's Coming to America too. It's called Coming
1:26:38
Speaker 1: to America the Quest. So there's fake flyers going around,
1:26:41
Speaker 1: don't believe that. But the sequel to Coming to America
1:26:47
Speaker 1: is one of the most amazing films that I've ever
1:26:49
Speaker 1: been on. The course we filmed on Tyler Perry's old
1:26:52
Speaker 1: studio and the new studio, I got a tour of
1:26:56
Speaker 1: a lot. I got to see the album stages. It
1:26:58
Speaker 1: was so prideful and so amazing. Plus, when you're watching
1:27:02
Speaker 1: Coming to America in the living room thirty years ago,
1:27:06
Speaker 1: you can't even fathom that there's gonna be a sequel
1:27:08
Speaker 1: thirty years later and you'll be in it. That's why
1:27:11
Speaker 1: when they say God can dream, dreams bigger. God got
1:27:14
Speaker 1: bigger plans to you that you could ever dream, It's true,
1:27:17
Speaker 1: you know. And I was very um lucky to be
1:27:21
Speaker 1: in this film along with the great John Amos and
1:27:27
Speaker 1: with James of Jones, and you know, Vanessa Belle Callaway,
1:27:31
Speaker 1: and there's so many of the people that were in
1:27:34
Speaker 1: it before. Mostly all the people that were here before
1:27:37
Speaker 1: are in it this time. The only person who passed
1:27:40
Speaker 1: away was a great Matt Sinclair who played Prince Ames
1:27:42
Speaker 1: and mother. And then there's cameos and other roles by
1:27:47
Speaker 1: other people that I can't say, giving me a hemorory
1:27:50
Speaker 1: because I got the pictures in my phone that I
1:27:52
Speaker 1: want to drop, and I've had almost a year now,
1:27:55
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I understand the gridges. I want
1:27:57
Speaker 1: to just show someone. I can't do it, but it's
1:28:00
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. It's really, really, really a wonderful experience.
1:28:03
Speaker 1: I'm blessed. One of the great things on Barack. You
1:28:07
Speaker 1: couldn't promote, but you could promote. Dolomite is my name?
1:28:11
Speaker 1: I'm watching Jimmy Kimmel because they were saw a promotion,
1:28:14
Speaker 1: said Lunelle, pre promoted that you was going to be
1:28:16
Speaker 1: on the show. And when you came, when he introduced
1:28:19
Speaker 1: you and you came out that beautiful dress, what ran
1:28:24
Speaker 1: through your mind? Because you know, I've been I have
1:28:26
Speaker 1: come out on stage, I've been introduced like that, never
1:28:29
Speaker 1: at the level that you was introduced. Because you introduced
1:28:31
Speaker 1: as a star on a major late night television successful show,
1:28:38
Speaker 1: talk walkers through those steps emotionally. Um uh. And when
1:28:41
Speaker 1: you sat down and did the interview in the crowd
1:28:43
Speaker 1: reacting to your lunell, well, you know I had also
1:28:51
Speaker 1: prior to the interview on Kimmel, I had been lucky
1:28:54
Speaker 1: enough to obtain a residency at his comedy club in
1:28:58
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Absolutely some of the forgot a chance to
1:29:01
Speaker 1: see me before the shutdown. Um I was at Jimmy
1:29:05
Speaker 1: Kimmel's comedy club in Las Vegas every Sunday night at
1:29:10
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. So we had been talking to them about
1:29:14
Speaker 1: the fact that Yo, I'm Jimmy's resident, Like I'm here
1:29:17
Speaker 1: every week. You know, most people would come in, they
1:29:19
Speaker 1: may do a weekend, they may go somewhere or something
1:29:22
Speaker 1: like that. But they I was there every Sunday, every
1:29:26
Speaker 1: Sunday at ten pm. So when it came through to
1:29:29
Speaker 1: my agent said yeah, we're gonna be able. You know
1:29:31
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to do the show, I was
1:29:34
Speaker 1: elated because I've always pictured myself kitting at the desk.
1:29:39
Speaker 1: You know, if it wasn't Carson, and I thought it'd
1:29:41
Speaker 1: be the Winnow it wasn't Leno's, and I thought it'd
1:29:43
Speaker 1: be a letterman. If it wasn't a letterman, I didn't
1:29:45
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen. But I did get a
1:29:48
Speaker 1: chance to walk out there from behind the curtain in
1:29:52
Speaker 1: the outfit that I was very proud to wear by
1:29:55
Speaker 1: a black designer named Angela dene I was able to,
1:30:00
Speaker 1: you know, be my witty self. I didn't have to
1:30:03
Speaker 1: do stand up. I just was able to sit there
1:30:07
Speaker 1: and you know, be me, and um, it was great.
1:30:12
Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy's very kind, He's a very kind person,
1:30:16
Speaker 1: and um, he was very into me. He makes you
1:30:19
Speaker 1: feel very important, you know. I was low key flirting
1:30:23
Speaker 1: like I always do. Very cute at it, very cute
1:30:26
Speaker 1: at it, showing those nails, showing those nails, yeah, all
1:30:31
Speaker 1: that stuff. So it was it was a wonderful, wonderful experience,
1:30:37
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that I have the tape. You know
1:30:40
Speaker 1: that my daughter was there with me. I had, uh
1:30:44
Speaker 1: my crew that day was my agent, my manager, my stylast,
1:30:49
Speaker 1: my daughter, and um Glodine White, the late very White White,
1:30:55
Speaker 1: she's not very dear friend. So she was backstage where
1:30:58
Speaker 1: her sister Lindau and um, yeah, and a couple of
1:31:03
Speaker 1: more people that I loved. And so I did have
1:31:06
Speaker 1: a crew, and it was it was great. You know,
1:31:08
Speaker 1: we celebrated after we went to Yamaha Olds back when
1:31:12
Speaker 1: you could find dying and stuff like that, and and uh,
1:31:18
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was a dream come true,
1:31:21
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why that's why I was excited
1:31:25
Speaker 1: about it. You know, when you when you came out there,
1:31:27
Speaker 1: so people standing for you, assuming there might have been
1:31:30
Speaker 1: some of your crew members said good your daddy, your daddy,
1:31:33
Speaker 1: your dad, and then you're sitting down like a star
1:31:36
Speaker 1: like you you belong there. You belong there. And I
1:31:39
Speaker 1: noticed and I'm not this is not the end of
1:31:41
Speaker 1: your journey. It's the start of an even bigger journey.
1:31:45
Speaker 1: How are you dealing with this pandemic. Now, my friend,
1:31:47
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, I was made for quarantine.
1:31:52
Speaker 1: Trust me, I haven't. I haven't had three, you know,
1:31:56
Speaker 1: almost three months to get anywhere. And the thirty years
1:32:00
Speaker 1: that I've been doing stand up and I haven't even
1:32:03
Speaker 1: had this much time to lay around at home with
1:32:05
Speaker 1: my husband because I was always working. From the time
1:32:09
Speaker 1: that you know, I started doing the stand up in
1:32:13
Speaker 1: Long Beach and they went back to Oakland, where I'm from,
1:32:16
Speaker 1: and was working on the Soul be Television Network, and
1:32:19
Speaker 1: then came back out to l A and get more
1:32:21
Speaker 1: to stand up, and went on tour with Captain, started
1:32:23
Speaker 1: my own tour and got the rid of that. We
1:32:26
Speaker 1: don't get ninety days, ninety days to lay at home.
1:32:30
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm laying on the beaches of Tahiti.
1:32:32
Speaker 1: You know, I'm at home. And uh, you know, we've
1:32:36
Speaker 1: gotten real creative. I started my YouTube show. For anybody
1:32:40
Speaker 1: out there who's interested in YouTube or has my Instagram
1:32:43
Speaker 1: me to click the link in the bio. It's called
1:32:46
Speaker 1: heylu now h E y l U E N E
1:32:49
Speaker 1: l L. It comes on live every Wednesday from three
1:32:54
Speaker 1: to four Pacific time. And um, so you know, you
1:32:57
Speaker 1: get creative when you're at the house and I'm and
1:33:00
Speaker 1: cooking and doing the mommy thing and doing the white thing.
1:33:03
Speaker 1: I taught my husband the other day, I said, I
1:33:06
Speaker 1: will be going back to one, so enjoy it us.
1:33:08
Speaker 1: Why you can't do them movie style? While I love it.
1:33:14
Speaker 1: She is the original bad girl of comedy. You've seen it, Dolderney,
1:33:18
Speaker 1: You've seen him. She is a queen to me. I've
1:33:21
Speaker 1: I've seen it from a far and it's great talking
1:33:23
Speaker 1: to you, little Nell and your resume. Now, when when
1:33:27
Speaker 1: when coming to America? Come back out in the fall.
1:33:29
Speaker 1: Can I get you back on the show? Oh you
1:33:32
Speaker 1: will want to, Yes, absolutely, And then I'll tell you
1:33:35
Speaker 1: some of the back story about some stulfcause we have
1:33:38
Speaker 1: some real, real, real um memorable memorable times. I'm gonna
1:33:44
Speaker 1: bring you back. Thank you for doing my show, and
1:33:46
Speaker 1: I know that I consider your blessing. I consider you
1:33:49
Speaker 1: a gift and I and a hard worker, and that's
1:33:52
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring you on my show. Money
1:33:55
Speaker 1: Making Conversation. It's about entrepreneurship and entertainment, and I only
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Speaker 1: McKenzie on ABC's Marvel's Agents of Shields. Please welcome to
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Speaker 1: money making Conversations, my man, Henry Simmons. Hey, thank you,
1:36:30
Speaker 1: Thank you, Henry. First of all, you know I saw
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Speaker 1: the premier so and I know the series. So I
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Speaker 1: saw the premier, so we can talk about that. We
1:36:37
Speaker 1: want to talk about that, but I want to just
1:36:39
Speaker 1: talk about your career a little bit here. First of all,
1:36:42
Speaker 1: how much time do you do you stay keep standing
1:36:45
Speaker 1: in shape? Because you're in shape last now, I saw
1:36:47
Speaker 1: you on the premiere and you're looking good, my man.
1:36:49
Speaker 1: The arms they let you show the arms off some
1:36:52
Speaker 1: the guns. So how much time you in the gym? Man?
1:36:55
Speaker 1: I just wanted because I know I don't look like that.
1:36:57
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't look Someone was next, and I
1:37:00
Speaker 1: know you're working on that. I know some of this
1:37:02
Speaker 1: God gave it to you, but you're keeping it in shape.
1:37:04
Speaker 1: How's that working out for you? Let me tell you something.
1:37:07
Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard work. I'm not gonna lie to you,
1:37:09
Speaker 1: you know, especially for this role right here. I uh,
1:37:12
Speaker 1: I worked out more I was working on six days
1:37:14
Speaker 1: a week, and I didn't take any shortcuts like you know,
1:37:18
Speaker 1: some of these actors out here doing uh these synthetic drugs.
1:37:24
Speaker 1: Don't do that stuff. It's all hard work, um, But
1:37:27
Speaker 1: I tell you it's hard because you get up at
1:37:31
Speaker 1: you know, five o'clock in the morning, you start working
1:37:33
Speaker 1: six o'clock, you get done at eight, you get home
1:37:36
Speaker 1: at nine, nine thirty, you spend time with your family.
1:37:40
Speaker 1: It's about thirty eleven o'clock. That's when I would start
1:37:42
Speaker 1: working out. Start working out eleven o'clock at night, get
1:37:47
Speaker 1: about twelve twelve thirty, study for the next day, go
1:37:51
Speaker 1: to sleep, and get ready to do it all again.
1:37:53
Speaker 1: Because that's your that's your career, that's your brand, that's
1:37:56
Speaker 1: your look. So you can't show up for an audition
1:37:58
Speaker 1: with a pot ballet. That's that's not no, not right now.
1:38:04
Speaker 1: Even if I wasn't uh an actor, I would never
1:38:07
Speaker 1: look that happen. I couldn't do it. I could do it,
1:38:08
Speaker 1: could do it because that's part of your brand. And
1:38:11
Speaker 1: I always tell people that you know your brand, your model.
1:38:13
Speaker 1: People have a certain expectation. They see a headshot, that
1:38:16
Speaker 1: see your body of work. When you come in for
1:38:18
Speaker 1: an audition or they give your role because sometimes you're
1:38:21
Speaker 1: blessed like that because they've seen your body of work
1:38:24
Speaker 1: when you walk through that door. That's what they're expecting,
1:38:26
Speaker 1: that that commitment, that same effort, that same consistency. How
1:38:29
Speaker 1: has it been when you you your estimation, we're looking
1:38:32
Speaker 1: at your career and you have a great body of work.
1:38:35
Speaker 1: What has been the difficulties of maintaining that consistency of
1:38:38
Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to stay in front of the person
1:38:41
Speaker 1: who does the decision makers of Hollywood, the casting directors. Well,
1:38:47
Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing. Uh, I'm old school. I'm
1:38:50
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now. I'm old school. And the
1:38:52
Speaker 1: way I approached my uh career, now that that's good
1:38:57
Speaker 1: and bad. Right. A lot of funds a lot of
1:38:59
Speaker 1: people nowadays social media day involved their personalized the families media.
1:39:06
Speaker 1: They're showing so many, so many aspects of their lives
1:39:09
Speaker 1: and that gives them so many followers, and that does
1:39:12
Speaker 1: help them, uh to some degree in terms of getting jobs. Now,
1:39:18
Speaker 1: those aren't THEO jobs I want. If if someone if
1:39:21
Speaker 1: the casting director, if a directors looking at my social
1:39:24
Speaker 1: media account and seeing, oh he's popular, therefore, I'm going
1:39:28
Speaker 1: to give him a job that's not the job. I
1:39:30
Speaker 1: want a job that is based on artistry. And so therefore,
1:39:34
Speaker 1: and I'm a person I believe in privacy. I believe
1:39:37
Speaker 1: in the old school way of having not not showing,
1:39:41
Speaker 1: Like if you go to my um uh Instagram account,
1:39:45
Speaker 1: you won't see pictures of my kids and pictures house
1:39:48
Speaker 1: and you know all stuff and and uh. And also
1:39:52
Speaker 1: I try to do things with integrity. Thank you. And
1:39:55
Speaker 1: that's what I started. I said, are two things that
1:39:58
Speaker 1: I want in this business. I want longevity obviously, because
1:40:02
Speaker 1: longevity is equivalent to success. Uh. It's longevity and integrity.
1:40:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to start doing things just to be
1:40:13
Speaker 1: doing them, and when I look back on it, I
1:40:17
Speaker 1: question why I did it or humiliated by it. I
1:40:19
Speaker 1: don't want that. But to tell you, when you operate
1:40:22
Speaker 1: with integrity, that means your journey, your journey is going
1:40:27
Speaker 1: to have a little bit more ups and downs are
1:40:29
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit longer on the road. You're
1:40:32
Speaker 1: not taking everything that's you're throwing at you right right,
1:40:36
Speaker 1: you know, and I believe that, you know, I've looked
1:40:38
Speaker 1: at this. Relationships are key to and that then then
1:40:40
Speaker 1: the integrity comes with that. If you have integrity, you're
1:40:43
Speaker 1: gonna have relationships. And if you have relationships, when people
1:40:46
Speaker 1: need you, they know your body of work. And that's
1:40:48
Speaker 1: how you're saying, you said rashand look, you can have
1:40:51
Speaker 1: the followers, but if you don't have the body of
1:40:52
Speaker 1: the work, that can bite you in the butt, because
1:40:55
Speaker 1: when you get on that set, you know, and you
1:40:57
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're challenged by talent, terrific talent, you know,
1:41:00
Speaker 1: because and sometimes you're not the biggest star on the set.
1:41:03
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're in a great ensemble and you have to assemble,
1:41:07
Speaker 1: which is kind of like what you have to deal
1:41:08
Speaker 1: with with Marvel's Ages of Shells. That's a great ensemble
1:41:11
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with and you have to
1:41:13
Speaker 1: mess your talent inside of them, and everything feels relatable, organic,
1:41:18
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, just watching on that series,
1:41:20
Speaker 1: it's been a blessing to me because you're a black superhero.
1:41:25
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just telling you know, and people need
1:41:27
Speaker 1: to understand that why Black Panther was so popular, because
1:41:30
Speaker 1: you know, we all need to feel that we in
1:41:33
Speaker 1: that in that fantasy world that we are part of
1:41:36
Speaker 1: that part of the equation. And I'm gonna tell you so, man.
1:41:39
Speaker 1: You know, I know you were on the second season,
1:41:41
Speaker 1: you were like a recurring character. And when they made you,
1:41:44
Speaker 1: i think the third season, when they made you a regular,
1:41:48
Speaker 1: I smiled, Henry, I smiled, brother, thank you, thank you
1:41:52
Speaker 1: so much, thank you. You know you know I look,
1:41:55
Speaker 1: I also I do how I think there's a responsibility
1:41:58
Speaker 1: to my artistry, but I do also recognize as a
1:42:01
Speaker 1: responsibility on being a black man in this business because
1:42:07
Speaker 1: I know, I know, at least I'm trying to be
1:42:10
Speaker 1: cognizant of what I represent. And I mean not only
1:42:14
Speaker 1: to to other uh people of color, but also my
1:42:17
Speaker 1: children and and also that's why I want to operate
1:42:20
Speaker 1: and integrity. And you know, uh when when I hear
1:42:25
Speaker 1: people say things like that ptasely about Marvels Agents of Shield,
1:42:28
Speaker 1: when they say, wow, they see this guy and he's inspiring,
1:42:33
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a black man. And I'm gonna
1:42:36
Speaker 1: tell you like this, I was so surprised, number one,
1:42:43
Speaker 1: that what was surprised the fact that they made me
1:42:46
Speaker 1: director right right right? You don't see particularly in that position.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: I I I wouldn't think that, uh, that they would
1:42:59
Speaker 1: make a black man, the leader of that squad. I
1:43:05
Speaker 1: thought it would be someone else, but volumes into the
1:43:08
Speaker 1: writers and producers that I work with, right right, you know,
1:43:12
Speaker 1: and that and that that's that's important because you know,
1:43:15
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, you're not just an ardiner.
1:43:17
Speaker 1: You're You're a big black man. And I say that
1:43:19
Speaker 1: in a good way. When when you're walk in the room,
1:43:21
Speaker 1: you feel a room, you know, they go, wow, that
1:43:23
Speaker 1: God looks good, he's in shape. Who is that guy
1:43:26
Speaker 1: you you're here? Who is that guy type of person
1:43:28
Speaker 1: who walks in the room? And that that's really good.
1:43:32
Speaker 1: But that's a responsibility that comes with that, and so
1:43:35
Speaker 1: and so when I look at it with this now,
1:43:36
Speaker 1: when I say that, when they when they made you
1:43:38
Speaker 1: that recurring character, then they made you the regular and
1:43:41
Speaker 1: made it legitimately a level of responsibility that I can
1:43:46
Speaker 1: be engaged into this show because I see a part
1:43:49
Speaker 1: of me, My kids see a part of me, My
1:43:51
Speaker 1: friends see a part of me in that show that
1:43:54
Speaker 1: looks like me. Because guess what, in the fantasy world,
1:43:57
Speaker 1: we are heroes too, and you are a hero. And
1:44:00
Speaker 1: that's mentoring other people because you know, I grew up watching,
1:44:04
Speaker 1: you know, buying the whole combined. Captain America and then
1:44:08
Speaker 1: were my fantasies now. And that's a good fantasy to have,
1:44:11
Speaker 1: because that's a wish, that's a dream. And to see
1:44:14
Speaker 1: a black man who looks, who looks statueous, who looks
1:44:18
Speaker 1: in shape, who looks good, that's a blessing, man, And
1:44:21
Speaker 1: that's a blessing for it not only for people of color,
1:44:25
Speaker 1: but for white America to see you as well as
1:44:27
Speaker 1: a leader, as a guy of thor that's important. Man.
1:44:32
Speaker 1: I just wanted to live. That's why I was excited
1:44:34
Speaker 1: about interviewing you today here because you know, a lot
1:44:36
Speaker 1: of times, you know, as an actor, we get in
1:44:38
Speaker 1: these vacuums and we just do the best job we
1:44:40
Speaker 1: can do. But when you step out into my world,
1:44:43
Speaker 1: you know, the the you know, the the Golden Corral world,
1:44:46
Speaker 1: the Kroger world of regular people just shopping the rafts,
1:44:49
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's the people that that look at
1:44:52
Speaker 1: you and go, you go, why is he looking at me? Like? Wait?
1:44:54
Speaker 1: Because guess what you are doing? You mean something to us, Henry,
1:45:00
Speaker 1: I want to go break up here. I don't know
1:45:02
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm I'm a regular guy, though,
1:45:04
Speaker 1: I'm a regular guy, but I appreciate that. Oh yeah,
1:45:08
Speaker 1: you know, I Faso Mac. Now, yeah, I'm taking something Faso.
1:45:11
Speaker 1: You know your character on the Sholf Now you know,
1:45:14
Speaker 1: because I I'm not shaped like you, but I got
1:45:17
Speaker 1: a ball head and a beer to you know, kind
1:45:19
Speaker 1: of keep it close up. So I would just let
1:45:22
Speaker 1: you know. I I fade in that lane that you
1:45:24
Speaker 1: live in. Okay, now, okay, Now, now you're the director,
1:45:29
Speaker 1: which like Nick Fury and the Marvel movies, he was
1:45:32
Speaker 1: the director, So you're kind of like the Nick Fury
1:45:34
Speaker 1: character on the television series Marvel's Agents of Shields. Because
1:45:38
Speaker 1: my man Colson he's called he's like a robot this
1:45:41
Speaker 1: season or something. He probably he was brought back from
1:45:43
Speaker 1: the dead. Can you can you feel us in on
1:45:45
Speaker 1: the details because I saw the premier and uh and
1:45:47
Speaker 1: we'll talking about it. Yeah. He the thing is he
1:45:53
Speaker 1: uh he died right and he was and then there
1:45:57
Speaker 1: was another character at last season, season six at quite
1:46:00
Speaker 1: a bit like him, and I guess he was infused
1:46:03
Speaker 1: with in another dimension he were a person. Uh, but
1:46:08
Speaker 1: when he died. Um, there's these androids called chronic comms
1:46:14
Speaker 1: and uh, Simmons the Simmons character was able to infuse
1:46:20
Speaker 1: all of Colson's stocks and feelings and memories everything into
1:46:26
Speaker 1: this chronic Colm. So she created Coulson in a way,
1:46:29
Speaker 1: although he is an android, he is like Colson in
1:46:35
Speaker 1: in the way he thinks and moves and fields. So
1:46:39
Speaker 1: that's the way they were. The writers were brilliant and
1:46:41
Speaker 1: being able to bring him back that way. Um uh
1:46:46
Speaker 1: so now he's back, and he his position is different
1:46:50
Speaker 1: because he's an agent. And also he's different because he
1:46:54
Speaker 1: has this, uh, he has strength. He's kind of as
1:46:58
Speaker 1: a superhero now right right, like like Quake. Quake really
1:47:01
Speaker 1: has the big power out there because she'd throw people.
1:47:04
Speaker 1: You know, you come close to her, you know, she
1:47:05
Speaker 1: can just blast your way. But but but but now
1:47:09
Speaker 1: he has this an amazing strength. He can move real
1:47:11
Speaker 1: quick and so so it's really ironic because you know,
1:47:15
Speaker 1: you know, he he was first introducing too the Marvel
1:47:18
Speaker 1: series in the movie Thor and of course we all
1:47:21
Speaker 1: saw him die in the Avenger movies and then he
1:47:23
Speaker 1: somehow brought back to life for the television series, which
1:47:26
Speaker 1: was a great gift for us. So him dying in
1:47:29
Speaker 1: front of us, we're kind of used to him dying
1:47:32
Speaker 1: and coming back, Harry, that wasn't a stressed you know what.
1:47:36
Speaker 1: It wasn't a stretched though. Oh he's back. Okay, come okay,
1:47:39
Speaker 1: come okay, come okay, okay. Well let's let's get this
1:47:42
Speaker 1: little brain transfer straight, the situation straight. So we're gonna
1:47:45
Speaker 1: get on with the show because Carson cannot die. He's
1:47:48
Speaker 1: the vampire of this way. If he could keep coming back,
1:47:56
Speaker 1: they could resurrect Captain America. Uh but all right, man,
1:48:01
Speaker 1: everybody can get young again, okay if Coles keep coming back,
1:48:05
Speaker 1: because yeah, never had the superpower. So tell us about
1:48:08
Speaker 1: your character. You know, we talked about you being the director,
1:48:11
Speaker 1: but tell about tell us about the hold of you know,
1:48:14
Speaker 1: because your characters has had certain levels of evolution in
1:48:17
Speaker 1: this series and different roles and different leaps and different
1:48:20
Speaker 1: transitions different models. Talk about it when he was introduced
1:48:24
Speaker 1: into the show, and bring us forward. Okay, sure, Well,
1:48:29
Speaker 1: initially I went on just a simple audition and uh,
1:48:34
Speaker 1: you know, about two weeks later they asked me to
1:48:36
Speaker 1: come aboard and I'm sure. But the problem was, at
1:48:40
Speaker 1: the time the first season was not on Netflix. I
1:48:44
Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't I didn't know what I was
1:48:48
Speaker 1: stepping into I mean I had an idea because I
1:48:50
Speaker 1: had seen a little bit of the show, but I
1:48:51
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know my first day there, it was
1:48:55
Speaker 1: just it was everything I thought it would be and more.
1:48:58
Speaker 1: I mean there were if the technology you walk on set,
1:49:02
Speaker 1: there's there's still were like twenty people at the time.
1:49:05
Speaker 1: Uh all this this weapon read the names of all
1:49:08
Speaker 1: these guns, that the aircraft and and uh all the
1:49:13
Speaker 1: technical language and the levels this all that, and it
1:49:17
Speaker 1: was a whole new world. I knew right away that
1:49:18
Speaker 1: this is what I want to be a part of. Yeah,
1:49:22
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Uh, here's the thing. My first season,
1:49:25
Speaker 1: I was recurring, and I was advised not to do
1:49:28
Speaker 1: it because people people were like, you know, don't don't
1:49:32
Speaker 1: do that. You know, don't don't recur to the whole
1:49:34
Speaker 1: season because then they can drop you at the end.
1:49:37
Speaker 1: But here's my thing. I know, once I get in,
1:49:41
Speaker 1: I believe in my talent. I know how hard I work,
1:49:45
Speaker 1: and I bet on me and I bet on God.
1:49:50
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's my number one. Uh So I knew.
1:49:54
Speaker 1: I said, no, No, I'm not worried about I know
1:49:56
Speaker 1: I'm gonna recur. I'm gonna recur and I know they're
1:49:58
Speaker 1: gonna there's no doubt in my mind. And that's what happened,
1:50:00
Speaker 1: and then they helped me to uh series regular. But
1:50:05
Speaker 1: the trend the way Mac came about. Initially, I don't
1:50:09
Speaker 1: know if you remember, he was so reluctant to fight.
1:50:12
Speaker 1: He didn't want to fight the man of people. Yeah,
1:50:15
Speaker 1: there was no way in the world he was gonna fight.
1:50:17
Speaker 1: And he Colston said, look, I need you to get
1:50:20
Speaker 1: out there. So finally he got out there, and and
1:50:23
Speaker 1: he was doing everything he could to maintain the fight
1:50:27
Speaker 1: but not kill anyone and just do what would need
1:50:29
Speaker 1: to be done. A matter of fact, he tried to
1:50:31
Speaker 1: leave in the first I'm not cut out for this
1:50:36
Speaker 1: um But as things progressed, there were times that Colson
1:50:41
Speaker 1: had to leave. Like I think there was one time
1:50:42
Speaker 1: when he had the cree blood in him and he
1:50:46
Speaker 1: needed to explore that. And and the one thing I
1:50:50
Speaker 1: liked is that right off the bat they had um
1:50:54
Speaker 1: my character Mac, but in Headsworth Colson, because Colston was
1:51:00
Speaker 1: using Shields for his own, uh, his own needs instead
1:51:06
Speaker 1: of using it for the greater good, and Mac was
1:51:09
Speaker 1: against that. And Mac was right, He's like, look you
1:51:11
Speaker 1: can't be using it to find out all about this creed.
1:51:14
Speaker 1: But this is about saving the world. This is about
1:51:17
Speaker 1: doing it the bigger picture, not just the A picture.
1:51:20
Speaker 1: And he was I was the one that was vocal
1:51:22
Speaker 1: against Colson. I like that, but we had mutual respect
1:51:27
Speaker 1: and you noticed when Colston would me, he would put
1:51:28
Speaker 1: me in charge. So eventually you know, I was out
1:51:33
Speaker 1: in the field. They gave me the shotgun acts and
1:51:34
Speaker 1: the fighting and all that. So when we get down
1:51:37
Speaker 1: to UH season I think it was five and the
1:51:40
Speaker 1: five where they decide who's going to be the director
1:51:46
Speaker 1: after Colson dies, I thought for sure it was gonna
1:51:49
Speaker 1: be either Quake or there wasn't in the comics, or
1:51:54
Speaker 1: May uh May. And when they gave me the mantle,
1:51:58
Speaker 1: I was UH. I was extremely flattered. I'm not gonna lie,
1:52:04
Speaker 1: extremely flatter because it says two things. It says something
1:52:08
Speaker 1: about me personally write an actor. They know that I
1:52:12
Speaker 1: have the authority the UH, the characteristics of leadership and integrity,
1:52:19
Speaker 1: thank you, and as an actor the strength to carry
1:52:24
Speaker 1: that mantel and leave. And as a as the character
1:52:29
Speaker 1: of Mac they see through his progression that he has UH,
1:52:34
Speaker 1: that I've infused him with those qualities as well. Absolutely,
1:52:38
Speaker 1: and and they believed in me. And that's that was
1:52:40
Speaker 1: something that meant. It meant so much for me. I
1:52:43
Speaker 1: just I'm not a line. Well, I guess what meant
1:52:45
Speaker 1: something to me too, Okay, mental to a lot of
1:52:48
Speaker 1: people out there of color, to see you an authority,
1:52:52
Speaker 1: an authority figure. When Nick Ferry comes on the screen
1:52:55
Speaker 1: and Ardor and the Avengers around, I feel good, order
1:52:58
Speaker 1: in Spider manner. I feel good because you go wow,
1:53:02
Speaker 1: because we all know that could have been a white character. Okay,
1:53:06
Speaker 1: it could have been a white character. So but they
1:53:08
Speaker 1: made a decision that based on your talents, color didn't matter.
1:53:12
Speaker 1: You're the load. Yeah, it didn't didn't it didn't matter.
1:53:18
Speaker 1: And because now this is why we're gonna go to
1:53:20
Speaker 1: the series. Now this is the final mission. Okay, watching
1:53:24
Speaker 1: the premiere episode last night, you guys are transported back
1:53:28
Speaker 1: to nineteen thirty one. Now, this is why this is
1:53:30
Speaker 1: important to me. First of all, you were wearing a
1:53:33
Speaker 1: fly suit. Okay, I just want to let you know
1:53:35
Speaker 1: that brother wanted that you know, you were you were
1:53:40
Speaker 1: looking at you were wearing something I definitely were put
1:53:42
Speaker 1: on because I'm a Taylor made guy him er. You know,
1:53:44
Speaker 1: I'm just let you know. That's you know you didn't
1:53:51
Speaker 1: you didn't let me get to the hat. Come on, now,
1:53:53
Speaker 1: this food Look at this fool got this hack coctor
1:53:56
Speaker 1: the side a brother one. You're gonna fo here every week.
1:54:03
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on your about that hat. I can't
1:54:05
Speaker 1: believe this food got these brown shoes on. Okay, signed
1:54:10
Speaker 1: up walking down here with these white folks with his
1:54:13
Speaker 1: hat cocked to the side and the one you know
1:54:16
Speaker 1: that can't happen, right, We're gonna do We're gonna do it.
1:54:22
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Because you know, it
1:54:26
Speaker 1: was really interesting because of the fact that this is
1:54:28
Speaker 1: where it gets interesting, because of the fact that it's
1:54:32
Speaker 1: one and we know the racial situation. It's thirty one,
1:54:37
Speaker 1: We know how women were treated in ninety one, and
1:54:42
Speaker 1: here you are a man of authority, the boss of
1:54:48
Speaker 1: these white people. Because we gotta talk like this, because
1:54:50
Speaker 1: because I think that had to be thought out when
1:54:55
Speaker 1: that time period was picked. They did, do know, talk
1:55:00
Speaker 1: us through that whole process, because you knew that time
1:55:03
Speaker 1: period that you couldn't walk around just giving them orders
1:55:05
Speaker 1: out in public because that would draw attention. And also
1:55:09
Speaker 1: when people came to you negative because I've seen in
1:55:11
Speaker 1: the in the premier where somebody came to you negative
1:55:13
Speaker 1: because negative because you were a person of color. You
1:55:17
Speaker 1: react and you go, oh, don't make no ripples, don't
1:55:20
Speaker 1: don't make no ripples. You know. I think that was
1:55:23
Speaker 1: really and then uh, I think Chloe's character, you know,
1:55:27
Speaker 1: when she was walking into the bar area. Uh, that
1:55:30
Speaker 1: that that that just got treated like she was a
1:55:33
Speaker 1: stupid female in his eyes, you know, while you're at home,
1:55:36
Speaker 1: you know, taking care of babies, and she reacted to that.
1:55:39
Speaker 1: I think that is so clever because of the fact
1:55:41
Speaker 1: that it allows us to see, you know, how how
1:55:45
Speaker 1: how time has changed, but if you go back to
1:55:48
Speaker 1: that time, it's still the same. But you guys got
1:55:51
Speaker 1: to play out your roles and the characters that we
1:55:54
Speaker 1: believe that you are in a period that's not conducive
1:55:58
Speaker 1: to that particular particular the uh social economical social stylings
1:56:04
Speaker 1: talk to us about that. When the script was being
1:56:05
Speaker 1: put in front of you guys, how what did y'all
1:56:07
Speaker 1: think about it? Did you have any questions when you
1:56:09
Speaker 1: are developing that period of ninety one? Well, that was
1:56:13
Speaker 1: my first question. That was my first question about race,
1:56:16
Speaker 1: because uh, look, you know you you can't deny that
1:56:20
Speaker 1: I'm a six foot four, two time black man walking
1:56:24
Speaker 1: down the street. You can't deny it. And the thing
1:56:28
Speaker 1: is that I said to them, Now, I don't know
1:56:30
Speaker 1: what they had in motion, but I asked him, I said,
1:56:33
Speaker 1: what what how are you going to address the And
1:56:36
Speaker 1: one of the executives said, oh, we might say something
1:56:39
Speaker 1: where uh where someone says, oh, you know, hey, you
1:56:43
Speaker 1: gotta walk through the back or something like that. And
1:56:46
Speaker 1: and again I don't know how much further they were
1:56:48
Speaker 1: gonna go, but I mean when we first, when they
1:56:51
Speaker 1: first started talking about I said, listen, I would like
1:56:54
Speaker 1: you to address that. I would like you to address
1:56:57
Speaker 1: it more than just something like that, because it wasn't
1:57:01
Speaker 1: something that one person might itself. Everybody felt a certain
1:57:05
Speaker 1: way about uh, black people. Everybody that was what a
1:57:10
Speaker 1: certain way about black people during the time. I mean,
1:57:14
Speaker 1: you know, uh, I'm not saying that body was racist,
1:57:18
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that some things were acceptable and some
1:57:22
Speaker 1: things were not. A black man walking amongst white people
1:57:26
Speaker 1: and giving orders and walking in and walking with us
1:57:30
Speaker 1: in his authority and in his power was not accepted
1:57:34
Speaker 1: now as a character. There's no way I was going
1:57:36
Speaker 1: to back down from that. There's no way I was
1:57:39
Speaker 1: going to I'm not gonna walk into a situation. And
1:57:43
Speaker 1: because now, look, if it was a different time period,
1:57:45
Speaker 1: if I was playing a movie where I was born
1:57:48
Speaker 1: that time and it not not, it might be different.
1:57:51
Speaker 1: But because I'm a man of this age going back
1:57:54
Speaker 1: in time, I'm going to keep the authority in the
1:57:57
Speaker 1: power in which I walk in because I'm not diminishing
1:58:02
Speaker 1: the story. What I'm saying, Well, that's why I loved it.
1:58:04
Speaker 1: That's why I thought, you know, and looking at the
1:58:07
Speaker 1: thirty one soon as they said that time for you
1:58:09
Speaker 1: and I read that, I said, Wow, this is gonna
1:58:10
Speaker 1: be interested in watching your character because you're not gonna
1:58:13
Speaker 1: become five for seven okay, and you know you're still
1:58:17
Speaker 1: gotta be six ft four. That's why you caught that
1:58:19
Speaker 1: hat and with stride, because when you're walk in the room,
1:58:22
Speaker 1: like I said, when you're walking the room, even today,
1:58:25
Speaker 1: you are a room changer because of how you look
1:58:28
Speaker 1: and your physicality. And so one you walk into that bar,
1:58:33
Speaker 1: immediately everybody looked at you. Okay, you know, because they're going, okay,
1:58:38
Speaker 1: we got them being in here wise that big black
1:58:41
Speaker 1: dude in here, and who let him in? You know,
1:58:44
Speaker 1: and and and that's just that's just to me. It's
1:58:46
Speaker 1: fine with me because that storytelling. But the storytelling that
1:58:49
Speaker 1: we could not have is that you bowing down or
1:58:53
Speaker 1: you being talked too badly and not reacting to it.
1:58:57
Speaker 1: That is what I appreciated about last night. And thank you. Yeah,
1:59:01
Speaker 1: and the same years. If you notice each time someone
1:59:05
Speaker 1: like one guy, I think he said shadow and the
1:59:09
Speaker 1: implication me was racial. Now you know, it might have
1:59:13
Speaker 1: been something different, but the implication for me was racial.
1:59:15
Speaker 1: And in the bar when the guy started, uh, he
1:59:19
Speaker 1: started to call me a racial derogatory word and and
1:59:25
Speaker 1: and yeah, I said, I stepped to him both. I said,
1:59:26
Speaker 1: what do you say? You know? Yes, you know nothing.
1:59:31
Speaker 1: I preached that I'm not you know, look, I'm you know,
1:59:34
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blow my cover. But the thing is
1:59:36
Speaker 1: is that a man in this age and this this
1:59:41
Speaker 1: this latent time, uh has a certain sense can walk
1:59:46
Speaker 1: in his authority, can walk in his power. And and
1:59:49
Speaker 1: that's something that is ingrained in us. So that was
1:59:51
Speaker 1: a re actionary thing for mac back Man when he
1:59:54
Speaker 1: was he was in the third it was beautiful. It
1:59:56
Speaker 1: was beautiful, you know, I just wanted to everybody know
1:59:58
Speaker 1: it's a great series premier and but I thought that,
2:00:01
Speaker 1: But that's an underlying tone, especially how women were treated
2:00:04
Speaker 1: in the thirty one and how people of color when
2:00:06
Speaker 1: treated in nineteen thirty one is going to be played
2:00:09
Speaker 1: out through the period while they're standing down. And I
2:00:11
Speaker 1: think it's really cool because the writers heated your thoughts
2:00:15
Speaker 1: and and a lot of respect, because you can't do
2:00:17
Speaker 1: a great series and you can't send little underlying messages
2:00:20
Speaker 1: that respect is always the bottom of bottom line we're
2:00:23
Speaker 1: all trying to achieve. And in this final mission, which
2:00:27
Speaker 1: is the seventh season of Marvels Agents of Shields, it's
2:00:30
Speaker 1: really especial because of the fact that you're the director.
2:00:33
Speaker 1: Women have power, women are fighters, women are not subservient,
2:00:38
Speaker 1: and they're on a mission to save the world. Tell
2:00:40
Speaker 1: us about this this final mission and let us know
2:00:43
Speaker 1: the direction and what can we expect the season. Henry, Well,
2:00:47
Speaker 1: you can expect us too. I think it's already been
2:00:50
Speaker 1: told that we are we don't remain in this time
2:00:56
Speaker 1: we go to different time period. Absolutely, I think that's
2:01:00
Speaker 1: already been said. So I'm not giving anything um. And
2:01:05
Speaker 1: the the one thing I could say is that, uh,
2:01:09
Speaker 1: the mission, I'm trying to say something without giving away
2:01:13
Speaker 1: the wishing the mission. It becomes more complicated because, as
2:01:18
Speaker 1: you know, if you go back in time, it's a
2:01:23
Speaker 1: butterfly effect. If you do something, it changes the future.
2:01:27
Speaker 1: And then maybe if you change the future, then maybe
2:01:29
Speaker 1: you have to go back to another time to try
2:01:33
Speaker 1: to impress something so it doesn't happen in the present time.
2:01:38
Speaker 1: So it's it's a thing where and where you were
2:01:45
Speaker 1: trying to trying to put out fires and trying to
2:01:51
Speaker 1: do what's necessary, uh to stop these chronic colms from
2:01:56
Speaker 1: taking over. But but the thing is is um, like
2:02:01
Speaker 1: I said, along the way, you just have to read.
2:02:07
Speaker 1: You know, there's gonna be some things where it's gonna
2:02:09
Speaker 1: affect people's lives and look and look like this. Because
2:02:12
Speaker 1: we're moving through time, right there are other people that
2:02:15
Speaker 1: are gonna come that could possibly come back that we've
2:02:19
Speaker 1: seen before. That's awesome. That's Henry. I don't want to
2:02:22
Speaker 1: hold you any longer, man, I just want to I
2:02:25
Speaker 1: just want to have an honest conversation with somebody I respect,
2:02:27
Speaker 1: a person I consider a mentor. For a lot of
2:02:30
Speaker 1: young people of all colors in this country, but more
2:02:33
Speaker 1: importantly in the in the era that we live today.
2:02:36
Speaker 1: You know, we all need to look up and see
2:02:38
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2:02:41
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2:03:01
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2:03:03
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2:03:06
Speaker 1: the conversation we had, man, because it was an honest
2:03:09
Speaker 1: one about you as a talent. Man. And sometimes you
2:03:11
Speaker 1: need to be told, man, you special man, that you're
2:03:14
Speaker 1: making a difference, not only when you go to work
2:03:16
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2:03:18
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2:03:21
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2:03:23
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2:03:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna for you that, uh. And I appreciate that
2:03:30
Speaker 1: I've had a bunch of auditions, I'm sorry, a bunch
2:03:32
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2:03:35
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2:03:40
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2:03:43
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2:03:47
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2:03:50
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2:03:53
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2:03:56
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