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Terror Threat in America, Biden Admin's Daily Efforts to Undermine Israel & the Latest on the Speaker of the House · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

0:01
Speaker 1: Welcomings verdict with sentater Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,
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Speaker 1: and we have a lot to cover, including the possibility
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Speaker 1: of a terror attack around the world on the thirteenth
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Speaker 1: of Friday. This being declared by Hama says a day
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Speaker 1: for people to go out and unleash war wherever they
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Speaker 1: are in the world. If you are a follower of them,
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Speaker 1: I want to start with this. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: parents I've talked to, even notes that are coming out
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Speaker 1: now from schools to parents about this concern of this threat.
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Speaker 1: From your perspective as a senator, what have you guys
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Speaker 1: been told or briefed on or has there been anything?
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 1: Is this more just hey, it's an international threat, a
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Speaker 1: call to arms by a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 3: Well, as senators, we have not been briefed differently from
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Speaker 3: anything that is public right now and in the news.
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Speaker 3: So you and I are sitting here it is eleven
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Speaker 3: twenty pm on Thursday night and recording this right now.
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Speaker 3: This pod will come out early Friday morning. As of now,
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Speaker 3: nothing has happened in terms of a terrorist attack in
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Speaker 3: the United States. All of us have read the news
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Speaker 3: that Hamas has called for a global day of Jahad
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Speaker 3: on Friday the thirteenth. I don't know what will come
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Speaker 3: of that. I hope and pray nothing will come of that.
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Speaker 3: But one of the things we've talked about on the
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Speaker 3: pod this week on both Mondays and Wednesdays is, in
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Speaker 3: my judgment, the risk of a serious terrorist attack in
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Speaker 3: the United States is right now greater than it has
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Speaker 3: been any time since September eleventh. I think there's a
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Speaker 3: confluence of a number of factors. One obviously, the most
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Speaker 3: significant war in Israel in fifty years, the most significant
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Speaker 3: attack on Israel in fifty years. Number two, two and
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Speaker 3: a half years of open borders on our southern border,
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Speaker 3: seven point six million people coming in illegally, including a
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Speaker 3: very significant number of people on the terror watch list,
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Speaker 3: and an exposure that there could be a significant number
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Speaker 3: of terrorists from countries in the Middle East who have
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Speaker 3: come into this country in the past two and a
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Speaker 3: half years. All of that combines, I know that law
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Speaker 3: enforcement in cities across America is on high alert today.
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Speaker 3: Police officers, police departments are taking these threats seriously. In
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Speaker 3: New York, obviously, New York has long been tragically a
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Speaker 3: target for terrorism, and New York has a very significant
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Speaker 3: Jewish population.
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Speaker 2: The NYPD.
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Speaker 3: Is beefing up patrols, in particular at Jewish schools because sadly,
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Speaker 3: with a call to Jahad, that could be a target
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Speaker 3: of violence or terrorism. My hope, my prayer is that
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Speaker 3: we don't see that today in America or or globally,
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Speaker 3: but I do think the risks are significant. This is
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Speaker 3: a dangerous world, and so I think everyone should should
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Speaker 3: should be careful and be vigilant and be alert. There
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Speaker 3: are scheduled protests across the country by pro Palestinian forces,
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Speaker 3: and that that we have seen with Black Lives Matter
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Speaker 3: and Antifa riots, that protests can turn violence, particularly when
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Speaker 3: you have local politicians that prevent the police from doing
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Speaker 3: their jobs. We saw that with the Black Lives riot,
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Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots. I certainly hope and
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Speaker 3: pray we don't see a repeat of that tomorrow. But
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Speaker 3: I do think this is a time for everyone to
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Speaker 3: be cautious, to be careful, to be alert, and certainly
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Speaker 3: law enforcement is on high alert right now.
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Speaker 1: You know, You've talked about this, and it's something that
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Speaker 1: keeps coming up with everybody that I've been talking to
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Speaker 1: for the last several days. And that is for years,
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Speaker 1: not months. Years You've been warning Congress and the country
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Speaker 1: when you are either on this show or on Fox
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Speaker 1: or wherever you're doing TV or doing other interviews of
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Speaker 1: the of the national security threat at the southern border.
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Speaker 1: It's not just a legal immigrants coming across. It's it's
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Speaker 1: it is a national security thread of who may be
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Speaker 1: coming across. How frustrated are you right now that Democrats
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Speaker 1: refuse to understand I think is the scariest part and
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Speaker 1: admit that an open border allows for terrorists to come in.
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Speaker 1: This year, for example, we have gotten five years worth
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Speaker 1: in one year of people coming across the southern border
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Speaker 1: who are on the terrorists watch list. And that's who
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Speaker 1: we've caught. So this year more people in the last
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Speaker 1: five years combined. That is a shocking number. And that
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Speaker 1: is an official government number. That means Joe Biden knows
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Speaker 1: that number, and yet Democrats refuse to look at the
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Speaker 1: border even from a national security standpoint.
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Speaker 3: Well, I have to say, Joe Biden does not know
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Speaker 3: that number. I do not think there is any chance
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Speaker 3: if you ask Joe Biden that number, that any part
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Speaker 3: of his brain has any awareness of that number. And
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Speaker 3: I have no indication that anyone's briefing him on it.
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Speaker 3: I have no indication that anyone in the administration cares
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Speaker 3: about it, that anyone thinks he cares about it. And
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Speaker 3: I got to say that number is not the one
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Speaker 3: that worries me the most. Yes, we are seeing a
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Speaker 3: massive spike in terms of the number of people apprehended
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Speaker 3: who are on the terror watchless. And mind you, you get
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Speaker 3: on the terror watchless because there is credible and meaningful
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Speaker 3: evidence that you are a risk for terrorism. You don't
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Speaker 3: get on that list lightly. What worries me much more
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Speaker 3: is how many people on the terror watch list are
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Speaker 3: among the god aways. And you have to understand they
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Speaker 3: are two broad categories on our southern border, those who
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Speaker 3: are apprehended and those who they see but they get away.
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Speaker 3: And the difference that the people who are apprehended, the
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Speaker 3: vast majority of the people who are apprehended are voluntarily
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Speaker 3: turning themselves in. They're going and seeking border patrol agents
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Speaker 3: and turning themselves in, and which raises the question the
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Speaker 3: god aways, why are they bothering to run? Why are
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Speaker 3: they actively evading border patrol and law enforcement? And it
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Speaker 3: raises the natural inference that the god aways are much
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Speaker 3: more likely to have seriously dangerous characteristics, whether it is
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Speaker 3: that there can victed felons, convicted murderers, convicted rapist, convicted
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Speaker 3: child molesters, whether they're gang members MS thirteen or other gangs,
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Speaker 3: or whether they are in fact terrorists coming to America
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Speaker 3: with the intention of committing acts of terror. And given
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Speaker 3: the very high numbers in the people we've apprehended, the
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Speaker 3: big concern is how many are are the ones that
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Speaker 3: got away?
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Speaker 1: Those gotaway numbers are something that have to be haunting
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Speaker 1: to law enforcement, border security as well. You combine that
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Speaker 1: with these new threats, and my biggest fear is we
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Speaker 1: could have stopped these people from getting in, and we
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Speaker 1: deliberately chose not to because the Democratic Party said I
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Speaker 1: would rather put politics ahead of national security. Did they
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Speaker 1: learn nothing from nine to eleven? And how frustrating is
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Speaker 1: that from your perspective when you have to work with
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Speaker 1: them on these things in Congress.
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Speaker 3: Well, it certainly seems that this White Hose and this
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Speaker 3: administration learned nothing from nine to eleven because they're setting
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Speaker 3: up the conditions for yet another nine to eleven. And
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Speaker 3: it's worth noting that this horrific terror attack, this act
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Speaker 3: of war carried out by Hamas and Israel. It's the
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Speaker 3: worst attack on Israel in fifty years. It is Israel's
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Speaker 3: nine to eleven. But it is also an American terror attack.
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Speaker 3: Just yesterday, John Kirby updated the number of Americans killed
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Speaker 3: in Israel. The number from the White House is We
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Speaker 3: now know that twenty seven Americans were killed in Israel,
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Speaker 3: and at least fourteen stand unaccounted for, which means there's
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Speaker 3: a very real possibility that they are hostages in Gaza
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Speaker 3: right now, twenty seven Americans killed in a terror attack
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Speaker 3: ranks high among the worst terror attacks directed at Americans
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Speaker 3: in history. Now, obviously, the Israelis paid a orders of
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Speaker 3: magnitude higher price, and it was directed principally at the
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Speaker 3: more than one thy two hundred Israelis who were murdered.
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Speaker 3: But twenty seven Americans being killed in a terror attack
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Speaker 3: is very significant, and I pray that that is not
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Speaker 3: foreshadowing for what could come next.
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Speaker 1: up another aspect of everything that's happening in Israel.
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Speaker 2: We have seen.
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Speaker 1: Other countries, for example, Mexico quickly evacuate people that were
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Speaker 1: in in Israel who were visiting there. We have seen
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Speaker 1: other nations that have come in as well, and there
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Speaker 1: seems to be somewhat of a slowness and response. There's
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Speaker 1: been criticism of Americans that have been in Israel trying
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Speaker 1: to get out quickly and not seem like it's a
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Speaker 1: top priority of this administration to hurry up and allow
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Speaker 1: them to get home. There's a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: go on pilgrimages, a lot of elderly people that are
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Speaker 1: from this country that go on trips to Israel. They're
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Speaker 1: wanting to get home quickly, and there seems to be
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Speaker 1: a lack of urgency compared to other countries. Have you
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Speaker 1: heard from people in Texas specifically that are trying to
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Speaker 1: get home and what is the government's response on that.
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Speaker 3: Well, we have we have heard from a great many
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Speaker 3: Texans who are in Israel who are trying to get home,
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Speaker 3: And actually I have put up on my official Senate
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Speaker 3: website a page of resources. So the website is Cruise
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Speaker 3: dot Senate dot gov, Slash information DASH for Dash Texans
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Speaker 3: DASH currently DASH in Dash Israel. So it's a little
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Speaker 3: bit clunky, but you can find it by searching for
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Speaker 3: information for Texans currently in Israel. And we have put
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Speaker 3: up a series of links for people who are in
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Speaker 3: Israel who are trying to get home, links to go
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Speaker 3: through the State Department, links and resources, links to our staff.
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Speaker 3: I have an entire staff of people that are working
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Speaker 3: right now with numerous Texans who are in Israel who
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Speaker 3: are wanting to come home. And it is not it
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Speaker 3: is not necessarily easy, but we are actively working with
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Speaker 3: dozens of Texans trying to assist them in coming home.
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Speaker 3: But it remains a very dangerous time because Israel is
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Speaker 3: in a state of war right now.
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Speaker 1: You talk about the national security side this and John Kirby,
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Speaker 1: it seems almost like he's the acting President United States
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Speaker 1: of America giving out more information.
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Speaker 2: The President is is.
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Speaker 1: Out there and he talked about the Americans that have died,
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Speaker 1: but also those that are unaccounted for. I want people
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Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say, and then I
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Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to it.
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Speaker 5: Start with the saddest of news. We can now update
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Speaker 5: the number of Americans that we know have been killed
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Speaker 5: to twenty seven, and the number of unaccounted for stands
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Speaker 5: today at fourteen. We're obviously doing everything we can to
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Speaker 5: support and inform the families. Now sadly, five more families
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Speaker 5: have now gotten the worst possible news that any family
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Speaker 5: can conceive of getting, and we're going to stay in
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Speaker 5: touch with them as appropriate. Same goes for those family
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Speaker 5: members of those who are unaccounted for, and by unaccounted for,
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Speaker 5: we mean that we don't know.
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Speaker 6: Where they are.
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Speaker 5: They don't know where they are, so we're going to
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Speaker 5: obviously stay in touch with them as well, and certainly
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Speaker 5: we're continuing to work with Israeli officials to make sure
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Speaker 5: that we're getting as much context and information as possible
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Speaker 5: that we will share with them.
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Speaker 2: That is very concerning.
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Speaker 1: If you're an American who has a level one that's
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Speaker 1: still missing, what have you been told and what are
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Speaker 1: we doing behind the scenes to get them back, Because
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Speaker 1: we still have not seen a very clear statement from
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Speaker 1: this White House that you do not harm Americans and
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Speaker 1: if you do, there will be hell to pay well.
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Speaker 4: And for.
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Speaker 3: Those twenty seven Americans who've been murdered, there has been
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Speaker 3: no suggestion from this White House of consequences. Israel is
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Speaker 3: exacting consequences. But look, one of the things that has
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Speaker 3: been so frustrating, we're now just under a week into
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Speaker 3: this war. Virtually every single day the Biden administer has
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Speaker 3: put out statements one after the other, undermining Israel, urging
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Speaker 3: Israel not to react, urging Israel not to engage in
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Speaker 3: military conduct, urging Israel to have a cease fire. And
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Speaker 3: let's just run through through a few of those. Because
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Speaker 3: the night of the first attack, as the atrocities were happening,
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Speaker 3: here's what the Biden State Department tweeted out, quote, we
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Speaker 3: unequivocally condemned the attack of Amos terrorists and the loss
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Speaker 3: of life that is incurred. We urge all sides to
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Speaker 3: refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing. Now,
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Speaker 3: a couple of observations about about that tweet. Number one,
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Speaker 3: the opening sentence, we unequivocally condemned the attack of Amos terrists. Okay,
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Speaker 3: that part is okay, and the loss of life that
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Speaker 3: has incurred. Now, it's interesting that is written in the
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Speaker 3: passive voice. Have you ever heard that phrasing the loss
16:01
Speaker 3: of life that has incurred? That is someone trying desperately
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Speaker 3: to say to remove the passive voices. When you remove
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Speaker 3: the actor, you remove that hamas terrorists have murdered now
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Speaker 3: over a thousand Israelis. Instead, it's simply loss of life
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Speaker 3: that has incurred. It just happened magically, not through any
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Speaker 3: actor murdering them. And then we urge all sides to
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Speaker 3: refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. So who are the
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Speaker 3: retaliatory attacks that's clearly directed at the Israeli military, and
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Speaker 3: then terror and violence solved nothing. Now, as you know,
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Speaker 3: this came out at three in the morning, and within
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Speaker 3: minutes I had a response out on Twitter denouncing it,
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Speaker 3: saying this is disgraceful and every single person involved in
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Speaker 3: drafting and approving this tweet should be immediately expelled for
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Speaker 3: the US government, And within minutes of my pointing it out,
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Speaker 3: the State Department.
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Speaker 2: Deleted that tweet.
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Speaker 3: That was the first day, the very first instinct as
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Speaker 3: Israel's being invaded, as terrorists are murdering their civilians, as
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Speaker 3: their citizens are being kidnapped, as infants and children are
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Speaker 3: being murdered. The position of the State Department was, do nothing,
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Speaker 3: do not engage in retaliatory strikes. Just sit there and
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Speaker 3: allow the terrorists to continue to murder your citizens. Now,
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Speaker 3: the next day the State Department posted a summary of
17:27
Speaker 3: a call between Tony Blink and the Secretary of State
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Speaker 3: and the Turkish government. And the next day the State
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Speaker 3: Department said they were working on an immediate ceasefire. Now,
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Speaker 3: an immediate ceasefire. This is after the massive terror attack
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Speaker 3: carried out by Hamas. The position of the Biden State
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Speaker 3: Department on day two was they wanted to cease fire,
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Speaker 3: and by ceasefire they mean Israel. Do nothing, do not
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Speaker 3: attack Hamas. Again I blasted that is indefensible, and again
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Speaker 3: they deleted the tweet. Now, two days ago, President Biden gave,
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Speaker 3: after much delay, a serious speech on the issue, and
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Speaker 3: on the face of it, the speech seemed pretty solid.
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Speaker 3: He finally said unequivocally that America would support Israel period,
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Speaker 3: full stop, without the caveats that his administration had been
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Speaker 3: putting in day after day after day. But it's worth
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Speaker 3: noting that before and after the speech, the Biden administration
18:37
Speaker 3: continues to undermine Israel. So the day before Biden's speech,
18:42
Speaker 3: the Deputy National Security Advisor went on MSNBC and warned
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Speaker 3: the Israelis here's the quote, it is our advice that
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Speaker 3: this war be conducted based on principles of international law. Well, Ben,
18:56
Speaker 3: what the heck does that mean? Has Israel ever not
18:59
Speaker 3: fought its wars based on principles of international law? Why
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Speaker 3: is that something they're lecturing Israel on right now? And
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Speaker 3: then as the speech concluded, reporters started asking Biden's staff
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Speaker 3: to explain Now. Biden refused to take questions. He ran
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Speaker 3: out of the room, and Politico asked the National Security Council,
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Speaker 3: why is it they're talking about the need to follow
19:28
Speaker 3: the rule of law? And to be clear, the State
19:32
Speaker 3: Department also put out a statement and said, quote, we
19:36
Speaker 3: also discussed how democracies like Israel and the United States
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Speaker 3: are stronger and more secure when we act according to
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Speaker 3: the rule of law. Again, what the hell are they
19:48
Speaker 3: talking about? When is Israel not fought according to the
19:52
Speaker 3: rule of law? So they're lecturing them, They're saying that
19:56
Speaker 3: it has to be conducted based on the principles of
19:58
Speaker 3: international law. That has to be in accordance with the
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Speaker 3: rule of law. That suggests the Biden White House doesn't
20:03
Speaker 3: think Israel will do that. And here's what the National
20:06
Speaker 3: Security Council said when asked, quote, we support Israel taking
20:12
Speaker 3: necessary and proportionate action. Understand what they're saying. At every step.
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Speaker 3: It almost seems a daily basis, the Biden White House
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Speaker 3: is telling Israel do nothing, stand down. And if you
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Speaker 3: look at those two adjectives, necessary and proportionate action. Here's
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Speaker 3: what's coming next.
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Speaker 7: Ben.
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Speaker 3: We're going to hear the Biden administration. We're gonna hear
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Speaker 3: left wing Democrats that we're going to hear the media
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Speaker 3: blasting Israel, that their actions are not necessary and they're
20:46
Speaker 3: not proportionate. That's gonna be what they're gonna say next,
20:49
Speaker 3: and they're gonna say it especially because and listen, we
20:52
Speaker 3: need to be ready. Tragically, there are going to be
20:57
Speaker 3: a significant number of Palestinian civilian casualties. Now, that is
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Speaker 3: not the desire of the IDF, that is not the
21:06
Speaker 3: objective of the Israeli military, and in fact, the Israeli
21:09
Speaker 3: military goes to greater lengths to avoid civilian casualties than
21:14
Speaker 3: any military on the face of the planet. But the
21:17
Speaker 3: reason that we know there will be very significant Palestinian
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Speaker 3: civilian casualties is Hamas wants those Palestinians to die, and
21:26
Speaker 3: they deliberately use Palestinians as human shields. They put Palestinian
21:31
Speaker 3: women and children around their military targets, around their missiles,
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Speaker 3: around their terrorists, around their headquarters, and their intention is
21:39
Speaker 3: for those Palestinian civilians to die. Because then the media
21:44
Speaker 3: does what they can always be counted to do, which
21:47
Speaker 3: is to use those images as an excuse to blast Israel.
21:52
Speaker 3: And all of these quotes about international law and the
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Speaker 3: rule of law necessary and proportionate. This is all foreshadow
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Speaker 3: where the Biden administration and the press intend to go.
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Speaker 1: It's truly shocking to see the press because even the
23:34
Speaker 1: press is still basically being apologist for Hamas and the Palestinians,
23:42
Speaker 1: and that part is so frustrating. I also want you
23:45
Speaker 1: to hear what John Kirby had to say, and I
23:47
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to this, as there were
23:49
Speaker 1: many members of the media that we're trying to debunk
23:54
Speaker 1: that babies were killed by hamas. New images have been
23:58
Speaker 1: put out showing babies murdered by hamas, but American, actual
24:03
Speaker 1: American journalists are trying to debunk this to imply, oh no,
24:06
Speaker 1: it really didn't happen. Oh no, that's that's some sort
24:09
Speaker 1: of you know, a line or propaganda. And John Kirby
24:14
Speaker 1: was asked not just about that, but also he was
24:17
Speaker 1: asked about the president and us not hearing about him
24:20
Speaker 1: very much, hearing from him very much. Take a listen
24:22
Speaker 1: to this from MSNBC.
24:25
Speaker 6: Understood the last question. I don't know exactly, if for
24:28
Speaker 6: how you'll answer it, but viewers may know you have
24:32
Speaker 6: a back You have a military background. You also have
24:33
Speaker 6: an extensive government communications background, and in the days that
24:36
Speaker 6: had there's a communications aspect to all this where the president,
24:40
Speaker 6: who has been quite forceful across the week, can sort
24:44
Speaker 6: of pull back and go back to governing. You're busy
24:47
Speaker 6: with trying to find out who the new speaker is
24:49
Speaker 6: going to be and deal with a lot of other
24:50
Speaker 6: priorities at home or sort of double down or extend
24:53
Speaker 6: this with a communications approach. And so I'm curious, is
24:56
Speaker 6: can you tell us anything about whether there'll be any
24:58
Speaker 6: other formal address the nation for well, addressed to Congress,
25:01
Speaker 6: evening addressed to the nation. As you know, in other
25:04
Speaker 6: past terror attacks, including on allies, over time, there either
25:08
Speaker 6: is a kind of an ebb where people say, oh, well,
25:11
Speaker 6: that was last week's news and it's that country's problem
25:13
Speaker 6: over there, and sometimes there's more of a priority of
25:15
Speaker 6: summoning the US sustained attention. Again, I know you guys
25:19
Speaker 6: aren't going to break any secret news tonight, so to speak,
25:22
Speaker 6: but can you speak to any of that in the
25:23
Speaker 6: days ahead and what's on the mind of the communicators
25:25
Speaker 6: in the White House?
25:26
Speaker 8: Sadly, we don't think this is going to end anytime
25:30
Speaker 8: very soon, certainly incoming weeks for sure, if not longer.
25:35
Speaker 8: So I think you can count on hearing from President
25:37
Speaker 8: Biden in the future about this particular conflict and what
25:41
Speaker 8: we're doing is support Israel. I have no doubt that
25:44
Speaker 8: you'll continue to hear from him. But I also think
25:46
Speaker 8: you're going to continue to hear from him on a
25:48
Speaker 8: range of other issues that are important to governing in
25:52
Speaker 8: other places around the world, such as Ukraine, such as
25:54
Speaker 8: the Indo Pacific. I'm sure he'll continue to as he
25:57
Speaker 8: did this week, talk about, you know, the economic.
26:00
Speaker 2: Issues, the junk fees, So you're.
26:02
Speaker 8: Gonna you're gonna continue to to hear him talk about
26:05
Speaker 8: issues that also matter on a domestic scale as well.
26:07
Speaker 8: That's what being president is, that's what being commander in
26:09
Speaker 8: chief is. You've got to handle it all and he's
26:12
Speaker 8: more than equipped and more than ready to do that at.
26:15
Speaker 6: The White House. John Kirby, thanks for taking a break
26:17
Speaker 6: from some.
26:18
Speaker 1: Of your work to speak with I mean, that's the
26:20
Speaker 1: biggest non answer I've ever heard. When this is going on,
26:23
Speaker 1: Americans are being held hostage, like, well, you might hear
26:25
Speaker 1: from him in the future and about future Hamas attacks
26:29
Speaker 1: in the future, but you're not gonna hear from him
26:31
Speaker 1: all the time on it. And there's gonna be other
26:33
Speaker 1: things as well that are just as important. What I
26:35
Speaker 1: guess that's global warming.
26:37
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, Remember he mentioned junk fees, so
26:40
Speaker 3: clearly they've got their priorities right. We've got the worst
26:43
Speaker 3: attack in Israel in fifty years. We have a war
26:46
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, and their concern is we need
26:50
Speaker 3: to address junk fees right now that look, this is
26:54
Speaker 3: not a serious administration, and their instincts they want Israel
27:00
Speaker 3: to stand down. Prime Minister Netanyaho is committed to eliminating Hamas.
27:07
Speaker 3: He's right in that the Israeli government, the Israeli military,
27:11
Speaker 3: I believe they've convened a war cabinet, they are going
27:13
Speaker 3: to do exactly that, and throughout that journey and it
27:17
Speaker 3: is going to be in all likelihood months that it's
27:22
Speaker 3: going to take, and it is going to be a
27:25
Speaker 3: long and arduous and bloody ground battle with significant casualties
27:31
Speaker 3: on both sides. This White House doesn't want to get
27:36
Speaker 3: into that, doesn't want to talk about the need to
27:39
Speaker 3: eliminate Hamas, doesn't want to talk about Iran in any respect.
27:44
Speaker 3: If you look at Biden's speech, he didn't talk about Iran.
27:47
Speaker 3: He didn't talk about Iran planning this attack. He didn't
27:50
Speaker 3: talk about Iran funding this attack. He didn't talk about
27:53
Speaker 3: Iran directing this attack. None of that did he address. Now,
27:58
Speaker 3: we've talked at length on this post before about how
28:01
Speaker 3: the Biden White House treats every issue, not as a
28:05
Speaker 3: national security matter, but as a public relations matter, and
28:09
Speaker 3: so as it concerns Iran, I think a lot of
28:11
Speaker 3: Democrats felt a pr problem with the six billion dollars
28:17
Speaker 3: that was recently paid as a ransom for five American
28:20
Speaker 3: hostages released. And so we saw just yesterday the news
28:24
Speaker 3: break that the Biden administration is going to freeze that
28:27
Speaker 3: six billion dollars. Well, that's great. They never should have
28:29
Speaker 3: offered it in the first place. But if they're freezing it,
28:32
Speaker 3: that needs to happen. But that is about as easy
28:35
Speaker 3: as possible in a bunch of Democrats, particularly vulnerable democrats
28:39
Speaker 3: running in red states, who realized Holy Cow were actually
28:42
Speaker 3: funding the terrorists who are committing this that's a problem.
28:45
Speaker 3: So a lot of Democrats had come out against that
28:50
Speaker 3: six billion in the last couple of days, and it
28:52
Speaker 3: said freeze it now. Mind you, very few of these
28:55
Speaker 3: Democrats had the courage to say don't send it when
28:58
Speaker 3: Biden initially sent but suddenly they discovered it. But as
29:02
Speaker 3: we've talked about at length, the six billions the tip
29:06
Speaker 3: of the iceberg, and they need to not only freeze
29:09
Speaker 3: the six billion, they need to stop the ten billion
29:11
Speaker 3: that went several weeks earlier from Iraq to Iran. And
29:15
Speaker 3: beyond that, the most important flow of funds is the
29:19
Speaker 3: over forty billion in oil revenues, and they need to
29:22
Speaker 3: immediately vigorously enforce the oil sanctions to shut down that revenue.
29:28
Speaker 3: And you're not seeing Democrats talk about that. They think
29:32
Speaker 3: that with the six billion, okay, we're done. That's our price.
29:35
Speaker 3: We're taking the six billion, we're freezing that. So okay,
29:39
Speaker 3: we're not vulnerable on Iran anymore. Look tomorrow, the Ayatola
29:46
Speaker 3: should not sell two million barrels of oil, and the
29:51
Speaker 3: Biden administration has the ability to make that happen. And
29:54
Speaker 3: yet Democrats are not calling for it. And listen their instinct.
29:59
Speaker 3: I want us to play it different clip And this
30:01
Speaker 3: is a clip from a pro Israel rally where Democrats
30:05
Speaker 3: Senator Ed Markey is speaking and and and he's speaking
30:08
Speaker 3: and and and along with him on the stage is
30:11
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren. So you have two very liberal Democrats and
30:14
Speaker 3: and and take a listen to what Marky says, and
30:18
Speaker 3: then take a listen to the crowd's reaction. There must
30:21
Speaker 3: be a de escalation of the current violence the United States.
30:35
Speaker 1: We his face. By the way, because I could see
30:45
Speaker 1: the video. It was like he was in shock that
30:47
Speaker 1: people would be booing. It was like, well, I wait, wait,
30:49
Speaker 1: I thought you guys would warner.
30:50
Speaker 2: You for that.
30:51
Speaker 3: He was in shock and standing behind his left shoulders
30:55
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren and she's in shock. They're both because look,
31:00
Speaker 3: their instinct is Israel's the bad guy, and Israel needs
31:04
Speaker 3: to stop. There needs to be no effort to defeat Hamas.
31:08
Speaker 3: Because we're Democrats, we stand with the Palestinians. And that
31:15
Speaker 3: exchange number one, it reveals the instincts of today's left
31:19
Speaker 3: wing Democrat party. They are already denouncing Israel for retaliating.
31:27
Speaker 3: They want de escalation, de escalation and cease fire. Understand
31:32
Speaker 3: what that means every time a Democrat says it, it
31:34
Speaker 3: means Israel do nothing, stop trying.
31:37
Speaker 2: To destroy the terrorists.
31:38
Speaker 3: And the look of shock from both Marky and Elizabeth
31:44
Speaker 3: Warren in that clip, I think it's very revealing and
31:47
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see a lot more exchanges
31:51
Speaker 3: just like that.
31:53
Speaker 1: Well, and then you have the other side, which is AOC.
31:56
Speaker 1: She comes out and says that, by golly, the United
32:00
Speaker 1: it's America has a responsibility to I guess intervene and
32:04
Speaker 1: prevent the attacks on Hamas she claims, it's to prevent
32:09
Speaker 1: a quote, ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
32:12
Speaker 2: Here's her Ere's what she said in her own words.
32:14
Speaker 4: It's our responsibility is to the stability and the security
32:21
Speaker 4: of the region.
32:22
Speaker 7: That means being able to.
32:25
Speaker 4: Support, not support, Yes, Israel and its defensive capacities.
32:31
Speaker 7: Right, And it's ability in that context, But it also
32:36
Speaker 7: means that the United States has a responsibility to ensure
32:40
Speaker 7: accountability to human rights, to prevent the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians,
32:45
Speaker 7: and to.
32:46
Speaker 4: Ensure that horrors do not happen in the names of
32:50
Speaker 4: victims who do not want their tragedy used to justify
32:55
Speaker 4: further violence and injustice.
32:58
Speaker 1: Right beautifully said, beautifully said, right beautifully said. So America's
33:03
Speaker 1: job is after terrorists kill Americans, is for us to
33:06
Speaker 1: make sure that none of the terrorists and the people
33:08
Speaker 1: around them get killed.
33:09
Speaker 2: Is that what I mean? That's what she's saying.
33:12
Speaker 3: To intervene to defend the terrorists, that is what she
33:15
Speaker 3: is calling on. And look, this is one of the
33:19
Speaker 3: most powerful and influential democrats in the House of Representatives.
33:23
Speaker 3: The other House democrats are terrified of AOC. She campaigns
33:27
Speaker 3: for Democrats all over the country and they are all
33:31
Speaker 3: scared to cross her. And understand what she's saying. She's
33:34
Speaker 3: accusing Israel. She says, we don't want to see an
33:36
Speaker 3: ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. She's accusing Israel of wanting to
33:43
Speaker 3: carry out an ethnic cleansing. That that is an absolute slander.
33:48
Speaker 3: It is a vicious lie. It is an anti Semitic trope.
33:51
Speaker 3: It is something leftists do all the time, which is
33:54
Speaker 3: they take the horror and evil that has been directed
33:57
Speaker 3: at Jews, most dominantly in the Holocaust, and they then
34:03
Speaker 3: say that's what Jews want to do to others. Israel
34:07
Speaker 3: has never engaged in ethnic cleansing. Israel would not engage
34:11
Speaker 3: in ethnic cleansing because they are a liberal democracy that
34:14
Speaker 3: values human rights and they go to extraordinary lengths to
34:18
Speaker 3: save human life. But Israel is also surrounded by terrorists
34:24
Speaker 3: who want to kill them, and Israel is willing to
34:26
Speaker 3: stand and fight to defend themselves. And understand, this is
34:30
Speaker 3: not some fringe kook on the internet. This is one
34:35
Speaker 3: of the most influential Democrats in the House of Representatives
34:39
Speaker 3: accusing the state of Israel of wanting to engage in
34:44
Speaker 3: ethnic cleansing and saying the US military needs to intervene
34:48
Speaker 3: to stop Israel from carrying out a genocide. That is
34:55
Speaker 3: a lie and a vicious lie, and it ignores the
35:00
Speaker 3: actual atrocities and war crimes that these Hamas terrorists have
35:06
Speaker 3: carried out over the past week.
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36:47
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36:52
Speaker 1: Steve Scalies, who got the majority of the votes in
36:55
Speaker 1: the conference to become the Speaker of the House. He
36:57
Speaker 1: has now broke made big breaking news by saying this
37:02
Speaker 1: about dropping out of the race.
37:04
Speaker 9: I know we've been following this. It's been quite a
37:06
Speaker 9: journey and there's still a long way to go. I
37:11
Speaker 9: just share with my colleagues and I'm withdrawing my name
37:13
Speaker 9: as a candidate for the speaker.
37:15
Speaker 5: Does at need.
37:18
Speaker 9: If you look at over the last few weeks, if
37:21
Speaker 9: you look at where our conference is, there's still work
37:23
Speaker 9: to be done. Our conference still has to come together,
37:28
Speaker 9: and it is not there. There are still some people
37:31
Speaker 9: that have their own agendas, and that was very clear.
37:34
Speaker 9: We have to have everybody put their agendas on the
37:38
Speaker 9: side and focus on what this country needs. This country
37:41
Speaker 9: is counting on us to come back together. This House
37:45
Speaker 9: of Representatives needs a speaker and we need to open
37:49
Speaker 9: up the house again. But clearly not everybody is there
37:55
Speaker 9: and there's still schisms that have to get resolved.
38:00
Speaker 1: This is not that surprising to me sooner because it
38:04
Speaker 1: was clear he wasn't going to have the votes, just
38:06
Speaker 1: like with Kevin McCarthy, he didn't have the votes. That
38:10
Speaker 1: means is this and now a pathway for Jim Jordan
38:13
Speaker 1: to become the speaker? Because you also came out and
38:16
Speaker 1: endorsed Jim Jordan, saying you believe he's the most physically conserved,
38:19
Speaker 1: the best guy for this job.
38:21
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, I did, and it's worth going back
38:25
Speaker 3: and explaining why I did that, because we had talked
38:28
Speaker 3: on the podcast previously that I intended to stay out
38:31
Speaker 3: of the House leadership election, and that's what I've done
38:34
Speaker 3: the eleven years I've been in the Senate. I've stayed
38:36
Speaker 3: out of every House leadership election we ever had, and
38:39
Speaker 3: my standard position has been that questions of House leadership
38:43
Speaker 3: are for the House members to decide. And that's what
38:46
Speaker 3: I had said on the podcast repeatedly. I'd set it
38:49
Speaker 3: to reporters in Capitol Hill repeatedly. That was a position
38:53
Speaker 3: I was very comfortable with. And then a couple of
38:58
Speaker 3: days ago, Jim Jordan called me and he made a
39:02
Speaker 3: very direct ass He asked for my support. Now, Jim
39:06
Speaker 3: is a friend. He's a good friend. I know Jim
39:08
Speaker 3: very well. Jim has been a guest on this podcast.
39:11
Speaker 3: We had him on two consecutive episodes doing a deep
39:14
Speaker 3: dive into the fantastic work that he's doing as focusing
39:19
Speaker 3: on the weaponization of the Department of Justice and the
39:23
Speaker 3: FBI and government. And Jim is someone I've worked with
39:27
Speaker 3: the entire time I've been in the Senate. He is
39:29
Speaker 3: a strong conservative, and he asked for my support. He
39:33
Speaker 3: and he leaned in hard on it, and I thought
39:36
Speaker 3: about it, and I thought carefully. And my general philosophy
39:40
Speaker 3: on political endorsements and I make endorsements all over the
39:43
Speaker 3: country in Senate races and House races, and gubernatorial races,
39:48
Speaker 3: in school board races, all sorts of races, is that
39:52
Speaker 3: I support the strongest conservative who can win. And both
39:59
Speaker 3: of those are important. And I want to proven record
40:01
Speaker 3: that you're a real conservative, and I want a path
40:03
Speaker 3: to victory. I'm not interested untilty at Windmills. I'm not
40:06
Speaker 3: interested in in in a candidate that does not have
40:09
Speaker 3: a path to victory. And as I thought about it,
40:11
Speaker 3: I came to the conclusion that Jim Jim was that person.
40:15
Speaker 3: That he would be certainly the most conservative speaker we
40:20
Speaker 3: had ever had, but that he had a real and
40:22
Speaker 3: viable path to win, that he had real and meaningful support.
40:25
Speaker 3: Now obviously his his chief rival, and the only two
40:29
Speaker 3: declared candidates at the time for speaker were Jim Jordan
40:34
Speaker 3: and Steve Scalise. And and Steve is a friend as well.
40:37
Speaker 3: Steve and I are good friends. We spent a lot
40:39
Speaker 3: of time together. I like Steve. Steve is a conservative
40:43
Speaker 3: uh And and Steve look the the statement that you
40:49
Speaker 3: just played. That was not an easy statement for Steve
40:51
Speaker 3: to give, and I respect that that that he gave it.
40:54
Speaker 3: I think it was heartfelt. Steve is obviously hurting, but
41:00
Speaker 3: I think he's also trying to do the right thing.
41:02
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you before I endorsed Jim Jordan, when
41:06
Speaker 3: I hung up the phone with Jim, before I put
41:09
Speaker 3: out the endorsement, I picked up the phone and I
41:11
Speaker 3: called Steve. And the first thing I did is just
41:15
Speaker 3: ask Steve how he was doing health wise. He's dealing
41:19
Speaker 3: with a rare form of blood cancer and I've been
41:23
Speaker 3: concerned and praying for him. And he told me he
41:26
Speaker 3: is doing better and the treatment is proceeding very well.
41:29
Speaker 3: But I gave him the heads up, just man to man,
41:32
Speaker 3: as I said, listen, you're my friend, Steve. I'm going
41:35
Speaker 3: to make this endorsement of Jim. He asked me to
41:38
Speaker 3: do it, and Jim and I have been very close,
41:41
Speaker 3: and I'm going to endorse him. But I told Steve
41:44
Speaker 3: at the time, and I believe this. I said, listen,
41:45
Speaker 3: I think you'd make a terrific speaker, and I think
41:47
Speaker 3: Jim would make a terrific speaker. So do not take
41:51
Speaker 3: this endorsement as a negative comment on you, but rather
41:57
Speaker 3: just a statement of the I think Jim Jordan is
42:01
Speaker 3: the strongest conservative as a path to win, and Steve
42:05
Speaker 3: was very gracious about it, and we're friends, and I
42:07
Speaker 3: certainly anticipate continuing to work with Steve in the years ahead. Now,
42:12
Speaker 3: what happened this week is the House Republican Conference met
42:17
Speaker 3: and they had a closed door meeting and they had
42:18
Speaker 3: a vote, and Scalise won the vote by a vote
42:21
Speaker 3: of one hundred and thirteen to ninety nine. So Jordan
42:24
Speaker 3: got ninety nine votes, Scalise got one hundred and thirteen.
42:27
Speaker 9: And.
42:29
Speaker 3: Actually the press coverage was saying, well, that's it, Scalise
42:33
Speaker 3: is the speaker. And what happened subsequently is there were
42:37
Speaker 3: a number of House Republicans who did not vote for Scale,
42:44
Speaker 3: who said over the hours and days that followed that
42:48
Speaker 3: they were not going to vote for Scale, and they
42:50
Speaker 3: dug in apparently, and it did not appear that Steve
42:55
Speaker 3: had a path to two eighteen. And so I think
42:57
Speaker 3: he's pulling out because he, at least at this point
43:00
Speaker 3: doesn't see a path to eighteen. Does that mean Jim
43:04
Speaker 3: Jordan is going to be the choice. I don't know.
43:07
Speaker 3: With a House majority of just four votes, any five
43:11
Speaker 3: Republicans can say no and veto anyone. And look, Jordan
43:16
Speaker 3: got ninety nine votes in the conference. That tells you
43:19
Speaker 3: there were over one hundred Republicans who didn't vote for him.
43:24
Speaker 3: I hope Jim can earn the support of his colleagues
43:28
Speaker 3: and unify. I will say, listen, it's a tough time.
43:30
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the things that's playing out in
43:32
Speaker 3: the House is there a lot of raw emotions. Are
43:36
Speaker 3: people are angry.
43:39
Speaker 2: You have the.
43:39
Speaker 3: Individuals who voted last week to remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker.
43:46
Speaker 3: I think those individuals have strong feelings, but I also
43:51
Speaker 3: think McCarthy and his core allies are very, very angry.
43:57
Speaker 3: And so look, any time you have people that are
44:00
Speaker 3: emotional and angry, it's hard for them to come together.
44:05
Speaker 2: Now.
44:06
Speaker 3: For folks worried that this chaos will last forever, I
44:09
Speaker 3: don't think it will. I think we will have a speaker,
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Speaker 3: and I think we'll have a speaker relatively soon. I
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Speaker 3: don't know how long it will take. I still think
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Speaker 3: we'll have a speaker by the end of this week.
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Speaker 3: So by the end of Friday or Saturday, but I
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Speaker 3: don't know. It may bleed in in next week. And
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Speaker 3: it is possible if Scalee doesn't have the votes, and
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Speaker 3: if Jordan doesn't have the votes, that someone else will
44:34
Speaker 3: emerge as a third option, that is some sort of
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Speaker 3: compromise candidate. And there are a couple of names that
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Speaker 3: are floating around, but it's not clear at this point
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Speaker 3: what will happen. But I will say to anyone concerned,
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Speaker 3: we will have a Speaker of the House. The Republicans
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Speaker 3: will come to get yeahther it just may take a
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Speaker 3: little more time and a little more opportunity for emotions
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Speaker 3: to cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we can all agree it's something
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Speaker 1: that we want to get done sooner than later. But
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Speaker 1: you don't want to rush it too fast and just
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Speaker 1: put somebody in there and then have them be failed
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Speaker 1: right afterwards, just like we saw with Kevin McCarthy, where
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work.
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